[00:11] <thumper> omg... setting up a new family PC
[00:11] <thumper> has windows 7 on it
[00:11] <thumper> already rebooted 3 times
[00:11] <thumper> and I've not even installed the first bit of software
[00:11]  * thumper will make it dual boot with precise
[00:33] <ajmitch> thumper: and then you'll have to install updates for each piece of software you install
[00:38]  * ojwb wonders if ajmitch is talking about ubuntu or windows 7 there
[00:38] <ajmitch> both, especially if you install ubuntu from a 12.04 beta 2 ISO
[00:39] <ojwb> ah
[00:39] <ojwb> it seems maverick dies today
[00:40] <ajmitch> yay
[00:40]  * ajmitch upgraded his desktop at home to precise in the weekend
[00:40] <ajmitch> work desktop still runs lucid
[00:41]  * ibeardslee shudders to think what people have floating around here
[00:42] <ojwb> the update tool does at least prompt you
[00:42]  * ajmitch doesn't use the update tool
[00:42] <ojwb> unless you disable that
[00:42] <ibeardslee> it does .. but sometimes those being prompted go 'ahh dunno'
[00:42] <ajmitch> so I get all sorts of interesting upgrade bugs to file & fix
[19:14] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:53] <ibeardslee> so who are Blue Systems?
[19:57] <ajmitch> morning
[20:11] <snail> mōrena koutou
[21:12] <Atamira> mornin
[21:37] <ojwb> morning
[22:39] <chilts> morning
[22:44] <snail> how was your break?
[22:44] <chilts> good, lovely weather
[22:44] <chilts> yours?
[22:44] <snail> great
[23:24] <snail> chilts: the web page I was talking to your wife about is http://helicon.vuw.ac.nz/menu (not sure if you can access that without a password from off campus) the software is http://www.oclc.org/ezproxy/
[23:26] <chilts> yeah, can't get into the first link, but looking at the 2nd now
[23:28] <snail> can you get to http://helicon.vuw.ac.nz.helicon.vuw.ac.nz/menu ?
[23:56] <chilts> it redirects me to https://login.helicon.vuw.ac.nz/login