[00:00] <astraljava> I asked on #xfce-dev, in hopes that Jannis will see it and have some ideas (he's co-author for volumed), but I dunno. I'll sleep on it now, maybe I figure something out in my sleep. :)
[00:53] <ScottL> micahg, i've updated the following packages:
[00:53] <ScottL> 1. precise seeds
[00:53] <ScottL> 2. ubuntustudio-default-settings
[00:54] <ScottL> 3. ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme
[00:54] <ScottL>  
[00:54] <ScottL> actaully #3 was updated a month ago or so but was never uploaded to the repos
[00:55] <ScottL> (and i apologize because i ran two updates together in my bzr commit for -defautl-settings)
[00:55] <ScottL> they aren't vast or pervasive, but it was still two updates in a single bzr commit
[00:55] <ScottL> ping me if needed, i'll be around the house doing other stuff
[00:55] <ScottL> (and quietly brewing over the crap going on at the office)
[02:21] <frewsxcv> is cory kantros still part of the team?
[02:24] <ScottL> frewsxcv, not really
[02:25] <ScottL> he did some work during the last cycle but has not been part of this cycle at all
[02:25] <ScottL> there were a few cycles previously where he was completely inactive as well
[02:25] <frewsxcv> is this project still alive?
[02:25] <frewsxcv> rather, how is this cycle going?
[02:25] <ScottL> frewsxcv, absolutely!
[02:25]  * frewsxcv was on the team years ago
[02:25] <ScottL> we've had some major improvements this cycle
[02:25] <frewsxcv> just checking in out of curiosity
[02:26] <ScottL> * finished transition to xfce
[02:26] <ScottL> * added lowlatency kernel to repos
[02:26] <ScottL> * defaulted to lowlatency kernel
[02:26] <frewsxcv> nicce
[02:26] <ScottL> * image is now live dvd
[02:26] <ScottL> * other stuff i can't think of right now :P
[02:27] <frewsxcv> about time that lowlatency got in
[02:27] <frewsxcv> any changes in software?
[02:27] <frewsxcv> *media software
[03:00] <ScottL> which media software, frewsxcv ?
[03:00] <ScottL> for audio? or graphics, video?  that media?
[03:01] <ScottL> some changes in those areas
[09:20] <astraljava> frewsxcv: LTNC! Come on board, we've missed ya. :)
[09:43] <ttoine> hi
[09:47] <astraljava> Hi ttoine!
[09:48] <ttoine> astraljava, how are you today ?
[09:49] <astraljava> Guys, the patch Lionel did really works, but I was just too dumb to see it. Had to do with xfconf values, when they were already set, no change was happening. But the patch works when the user boots up the first time, which can also be emulated by clearing the xfconf values for xfce4-mixer.
[09:49] <astraljava> I'm updating the bug #972781 now with a debdiff, should be there in a few minutes.
[09:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972781 in xfce4-volumed "Prefer PulseAudio when XF86AudioMute is used for ubuntustudio session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972781
[09:50] <astraljava> ttoine: I'm good, but anxiously waiting for new regarding an apartment. Thanks, and how are you? How was Easter?
[09:52] <ttoine> It was great for my young son : tons of chocolates animals, bells, eggs, etc... ;-)
[09:52] <ttoine> And you ?
[09:53] <astraljava> I was packing, watching a loooot of hockey, and doing some testing/debugging/developing. It was alright. Oh and I did go out a lot, biking mostly. Great weather, for northern Finland at least. :)
[10:03] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: If you have time, please check bug #972781 and advise further on how to get it uploaded. Not a FFe, this is a usability bug IMHO.
[10:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972781 in xfce4-volumed "Prefer PulseAudio when XF86AudioMute is used for ubuntustudio session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972781
[10:23] <ttoine> astraljava, good time so too !
[10:24] <ttoine> astraljava, I checked the state of the little visual bug of the menu icon in thet top panel, and it seems that it is not moving at all... can you tell me what to do to have it available in the updates ?
[10:25] <astraljava> ttoine: I remember there's a bug for that, do you have the number for it available?
[10:26] <ttoine> ah, wait a second. You teached me how to do the debdiff with that bug, it #/967160
[10:26] <ttoine> astraljava, I just changed it to fix comitted, because I attached the debdiff
[10:30] <astraljava> bug #967160
[10:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 967160 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "The logo background is not transparent" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967160
[10:34] <astraljava> ttoine: Ok, it looks good. You can increment the version numbers for project-specific packages, as they are all ubuntu, so no need for ubuntu1 in there. :) micahg, could you include that patch for default-settings when you're doing the upload? Thanks!
[10:35] <ttoine> astraljava, I don't understand very well the increment point...
[10:37] <astraljava> ttoine: Normally the version marks the version in debian (our upstream). When there are ubuntu-specific changes, they are marked with this postfix, for instance I added the Studio-specific fix for xfce4-volumed, it's version is now 0.1.13-2ubuntu2, meaning a second ubuntu-specific change for that debian version.
[10:39] <astraljava> ttoine: But for ubuntustudio- packages, there's no need for ubuntuX postfixes, as these are all ubuntu packages anyway. So in this case, the version should just be incremented marking it 0.33 for -default-settings.
[10:40] <astraljava> But it doesn't matter now, as there were other changes to that package by Scott, so this patch can be merged without that part of changelog, just including your name and explanation for the patch.
[10:40] <astraljava> Just for future reference, that's all. Thanks for providing the patch in the first place! :)
[10:41] <ttoine> astraljava, actually, I just let the postfixe. It was generated when doing the different steps for creating the debdiff
[10:41] <astraljava> ttoine: Yeah, I know. It's easy to not notice, dch creates it automatically.
[10:42] <ttoine> but I can just rename the debdiff filename ?
[10:42] <astraljava> ttoine: But it's something that a packager has to look for.
[10:42] <astraljava> ttoine: Yes, the name is not relevant.
[10:43] <ttoine> ok, now I know. thanks again... sometimes I feel a bit "not enough skilled" to be a "developper"
[10:43] <astraljava> ...but it's good to keep it as *.debdiff, so it's immediately noticeable upon first look.
[10:43] <ttoine> ah of course
[10:44] <ttoine> and then, I hope that the bug with the lighdm can be solved
[10:44] <astraljava> ttoine: These things just have to be learnt, not very intuitive. :) I do not think I'm a ubuntu developer, I'm still relying too much on the people like Lionel, Micah, Luke etc.
[10:44] <astraljava> ttoine: Yeah, it proved to be more difficult, but haven't followed since they dropped the initial fix.
[10:46] <ttoine> astraljava, I can't understand why it was not based on the unity-greeter... It works well, so, I were the developper, I would have started from this package, and just changed color and background picture
[10:47] <ttoine> I mean, instead of rewriting a new one
[10:48] <astraljava> ttoine: I don't know either, yet, but I joined the group for it, so that I can keep better track on its progress and participate in the development from Studio's POV.
[10:49] <ttoine> yes. it is very strange that it is not possible to "save" the default desktop we want to use
[12:14] <ScottL> ttoine, i wanted to tell you that i did the menu icon fix a little different
[12:14] <ttoine> ScottL, yes ?
[12:15] <ScottL> ttoine, the two .png images were created with the .svg that you fixed which therefore had the non-fully-transparent transparency
[12:15] <ScottL> so i updated them all but gave you credit in the changelog for it
[12:15] <ttoine> ScottL, thank you. So I did a mistake too at the export ??
[12:15] <ScottL> i didn't see the other two images in the debdiff, did i make a mistake in that?
[12:16] <ScottL> ttoine, oh, and thank you for reminding me about this bug :P  i had really meant to have fixed this (again) and had forgotten
[12:17]  * ScottL is getting kids ready for school/day care
[12:17] <ttoine> ScottL, in the debdiff, there should be the svg and the 2 png...
[12:18] <ttoine> ScottL, I was testing the ubuntu themes (radiance and ambiance) in ubuntu studio xfce and with radiance, wich is bright, It was very anoying
[12:18] <ttoine> By the way, radiance is beautiful in Ubuntu Studio
[12:58] <astraljava> ScottL: You're probably not there anymore, but worth a shot. I can't set the team as bug supervisor nor security contact for LP project gcdmaster-gtk3, as I'm not an admin for this team. Could you either add me as one, or configure the project yourself. Up to you. :)
[13:11] <astraljava> All: If you're interested in bringing gcdmaster back, please see mail: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2012-April/003979.html
[13:50] <ttoine> ScottL, mudita24 is still in the mediaplayer menu
[14:05] <len_> astraljava, +1 on the CDMastering project.
[14:16] <astraljava> micahg: Made an update to -default-settings, so please make sure when uploading that the revision 116 is with it. Thanks!
[18:38] <scott-work> janne, good work on the pulse-mixer issue!  :)
[18:48] <astraljava> Thanks, but Lionel did all the work actually.
[22:06] <ScottL> astraljava, i'll look into the admin stuff, might just set you as admin if that will work
[22:06] <ScottL> i forgot to remove the two mixers from the media playback menu
[22:07] <ScottL> not sure if it's too late or not, might just wait until next cycle
[22:07] <astraljava> ScottL: I haven't had news about the upload so far, so there _should_ still be time.
[22:07] <ScottL> i'm very much looking forward to getting all the packages updated in the repos, the meta's rebuilt, and test our RC for this cycle
[22:07] <ScottL> s/test/testing
[22:07] <ScottL> it's been a bloody amazing cycle, IMO
[22:08] <ScottL> astraljava, you and len_ have both been quite instrumental in the development of this cycle
[22:08] <ScottL> and micahg has been incredible in helping us with the repos, the metas, and the incidental "arcane" stuff like maintenance scripts and sundry :)
[22:09] <astraljava> Thanks, but I think the biggest factor has been the more 'official' leadership and the very easily approachable uploading done by Luke and Micah.
[22:09] <astraljava> So credit to where it's due, to you and to the real devs. :)
[22:09] <ScottL> oh, very good point about TheMuso helping with the kernel issue
[22:10] <ScottL> hehe, thank you :)  but we would not have accomplished as much without you as well
[22:10] <astraljava> But I admit Len has been a tremendous contributor, there'd have been many, many things missing/flawed unless for his tireless testing and elaborate discussions.
[22:10] <ScottL> i don't know if i made much progress to getting my repo access privileges, but a lot was certainly accomplished and i learned quite a bit
[22:11] <ScottL> ttoine, in his short time hanging around this cycle, has been very helpful as well
[22:11] <ScottL> i'll try to get the menu thing fixed tonight, but my evening schedule is pretty full already at the house
[22:11] <ScottL> speaking of which, i need to attend to a few matters with the family :)
[22:11] <ScottL> be back in a bit
[23:48] <frewsxcv> astraljava: heh, i could rejoined. it looks like the website hasn't been touched since i was in 8th grade
[23:48] <frewsxcv> though i would prefer to do actual development
[23:50] <astraljava> frewsxcv: There's going to be a new site timed for release of precise.
[23:50] <astraljava> frewsxcv: Yes, please! We have some ideas for the Q cycle.
[23:50] <frewsxcv> astraljava: sweet, maybe i can work on it over the summer, when i'm not busy with school
[23:51] <astraljava> Sounds super.
[23:51] <frewsxcv> for the meantime, i'll just idle in here and follow along
[23:53] <astraljava> frewsxcv: Just in time for champagne (in about a fortnight or so) :D
[23:54] <frewsxcv> when is the 12.04 release anyways?
[23:58] <astraljava> 26th