| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| britanny | Hi, I'm a little bit new to xubuntu, and I guess linux in general. Is there anyone around who could help me? | 01:23 |
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| bazhang | with what | 01:23 |
| britanny | I need to determine if there is a better video driver I could be using. | 01:24 |
| bazhang | which card, which driver, how installed | 01:24 |
| britanny | It is an onboard intel chipset driver | 01:25 |
| britanny | I haven't manually done any driver installation. I'm currently using whatever driver xubuntu started out with upon fresh installation | 01:25 |
| britanny | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 02) | 01:25 |
| bazhang | you could try the xorg edgers ppa for that. that card is never going to be superb though | 01:26 |
| britanny | Yeah... | 01:26 |
| britanny | I can fetch this with apt-get? | 01:27 |
| bazhang | once you add the ppa | 01:28 |
| bazhang | search at the launchpad ppa page | 01:28 |
| bazhang | !ppa | 01:28 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 01:28 |
| ben_says | howdy everyone, tiny hp mini 311 netbook here, installed xubuntu on it. had some fun, recenlty went a little willy nilly installing some video tools and such... anyway... long story short, can't hear audio any more, mute is not on, speakers are on full volume, i have installed nvidia ion recommended nvidia drivers, there is hdmi out, so taht could be enables somewhere, but... any idea how to reset ?maybe the onboard audio to defa | 01:30 |
| ben_says | ult? | 01:30 |
| ben_says | http://paste.ubuntu.com/922736/ | 01:30 |
| britanny | Thanks baz, this'll keep me busy awhile. Might come back later. ;) | 01:30 |
| bazhang | ben_says, what exactly did you install. willy-nilly is not terribly helpful as a troubleshooting aid | 01:32 |
| ben_says | ah... a bunch of stuff... lets see. ardour jack | 01:32 |
| ben_says | just tried to open the software center to see, can't find the list. but a bunch of stuff like x264 ffmpeg... | 01:34 |
| ben_says | something... which must have changed whatever was default... | 01:35 |
| bazhang | doubtful | 01:35 |
| ben_says | ok | 01:36 |
| bazhang | is alsamixer set to max? ie PCM | 01:36 |
| ben_says | how do i confirm that... | 01:37 |
| bazhang | type alsamixer in the terminal and check | 01:37 |
| ben_says | on my top panel i don't have an toggle... | 01:37 |
| ben_says | iok | 01:37 |
| bazhang | set PCM to around 80%, also pavucontrol should tell you something | 01:38 |
| ben_says | not max but 84... is master... | 01:38 |
| bazhang | !info pavucontrol | 01:38 |
| ubottu | pavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB | 01:38 |
| ben_says | everything else is 100 | 01:38 |
| ben_says | it looks like headphone is selected.. | 01:38 |
| ben_says | how do i toggle back to speakers | 01:38 |
| ben_says | its red in < > | 01:38 |
| ben_says | i see f6 | 01:39 |
| ben_says | try this | 01:39 |
| ben_says | huh | 01:41 |
| ben_says | not working... | 01:43 |
| ben_says | in my alsa switcher... should that be - default or 0 hdmi | 01:44 |
| ben_says | any guesses | 01:44 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| ben_says | ok pcm and everything is leveled to 80 | 01:46 |
| ben_says | installing pavucontrol | 01:49 |
| ben_says | NICE! | 01:51 |
| ben_says | pavucontrol got analog speakers working again. | 01:52 |
| ben_says | but (pavucontrol:10473): DEBUG: Error reading config file /home/volar/.config/pavucontrol.ini: No such file or directory | 01:54 |
| ben_says | ** (pavucontrol:10473): DEBUG: Failed to initialize device manager extension: No such extension | 01:54 |
| ben_says | interesting... the gui pops up upon running pavucontrol... but i get those errors... | 01:55 |
| ben_says | any reason to use alsa vs pulse audio | 01:56 |
| ben_says | very big thanks to bazhang and ubottu | 01:57 |
| mkultra_ | is it me or does xfce not like compiz | 02:06 |
| ben_says | 'night all | 02:15 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| FerchoLP | Is "nothing" the default behavior on critical battery level? Or is it "hibernate"? I had it on "nothing" but maybe it was because some error in my laptop | 02:35 |
| mkultra_ | i set mine to nothing, i think sleep's better for it | 02:36 |
| mkultra_ | tell the pc to turn off ya know | 02:36 |
| FerchoLP | YEs, suspend is a good option because in suspend mode battery only decreases at about 1% per hour, so you would have almost 10 hours to plug it in again | 02:37 |
| FerchoLP | but I think the safest default behavior would be hibernate. It is the same as discussing about the default "on close lid" behavior. | 02:40 |
| mkultra_ | yeah 1 or the other | 02:41 |
| mkultra_ | my machine just goes from running to dead | 02:42 |
| FerchoLP | One half including me think that default should be suspension, but the other half thinks "Nothing" is better. it's a neverending debate | 02:42 |
| mkultra_ | yeah i do nothing and hard restarts and fsck.jfs | 02:42 |
| mkultra_ | just fsck ur unmounted drives when they freak out | 02:42 |
| FerchoLP | haha | 02:43 |
| marote | anyone available to help me with ati drivers issues? | 03:03 |
| GridCube | !anyone | 03:03 |
| ubottu | A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 03:03 |
| GridCube | !ask | 03:04 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 03:04 |
| maoranma | !patience | 03:04 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 03:04 |
| GridCube | !nothelping | GridCube | 03:05 |
| pengemis | lol | 03:05 |
| marote | i dont know if it is correct to install the ati drivers directly from the "Additional Drivers" app, and whichone to install (the common driver or the post-release) Thxs | 03:05 |
| maoranma | You should be fine to install via the Additional Drivers, typically there's one called "recommended", use that | 03:06 |
| josh | can't get terminal to work. seems after an 'apt-get upgrade', it "forgot" the defaults (i.e. 'open browser','read email',etc) but this also applies to opening a terminal both in the taskbar menu and secondary click on desktop | 03:38 |
| josh | rather, can't get terminal to open inside xfce | 03:39 |
| well_laid_lawn | josh: can you open the terminal from the run dialog? alt+F2 and enter xfce4-terminal | 03:57 |
| josh | well_laid_lawn: awesome, worked like a charm, lol. Opinions on a better terminal? | 04:35 |
| malv | i just discovered XFCE | 04:38 |
| malv | much better than unity | 04:38 |
| josh | oh yea, unity is just... so... ugh, lol. It might be good as a touch screen GUI, but with a mouse... it's just tedious. | 04:42 |
| josh | well_laid_lawn: i just didn't realize that the terminal in xfce was prefixed with 'xfce4-' =) | 04:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | heh :) | 04:47 |
| === jrgifford is now known as Guest394 | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === hobgoblin is now known as forestpiskie | ||
| MordFustang | Can someone tell me how to search for files in folders ? :D | 07:34 |
| well_laid_lawn | find /path -name file | 07:42 |
| Sysi | or use catfish | 07:57 |
| === Guest394 is now known as jrgifford | ||
| martinphone | hi | 11:48 |
| martinphone | I need to format a newly bought 1TB HDD. for that I need to open gparted and create a partition table on a msdos filesystem, right? | 11:48 |
| martinphone | then I can choose to make it EXT4, right? | 11:49 |
| forestpiskie | pretty sure that's what I did martinphone | 11:50 |
| martinphone | ok | 11:51 |
| martinphone | my 1tb hdd SHOWS 931 GB USABLE SPACE, rip off? sorry for caps | 11:51 |
| forestpiskie | yea - been there for that one ... | 11:52 |
| forestpiskie | you can though change the amount of space that is reserved for root - normally 5% | 11:53 |
| martinphone | a yes, that can only be done via command line, right? | 11:53 |
| forestpiskie | believe so martinphone | 11:54 |
| joeythesaint | There's also tuning the filesystem block size, depending on what you're using. | 11:54 |
| martinphone | forestpiskie, please paste the command, or a link to it | 11:54 |
| martinphone | and I still cannot mount ANY HDD, including this one that I can gpart | 11:54 |
| forestpiskie | trying to remember :p | 11:54 |
| martinphone | I can cd to it and ls it | 11:54 |
| joeythesaint | I don't recall how df calculates space, whether it's based on block or inode count, but tweaking your sizes can produce different (apparent) results. | 11:54 |
| Mofasa | hey I got a problem with using ssh socks for some reason. I can telnet to the port but when im trying to run it as socks no application will work with it. | 11:54 |
| martinphone | file manager does nothing | 11:55 |
| Mofasa | Anyone know what might be wrong? | 11:55 |
| matteo75fe | hello | 11:55 |
| matteo75fe | only in english? | 11:55 |
| martinphone | only if you meet orthodox admins matteo75fe | 11:55 |
| forestpiskie | martinphone: tunes2fs -m X% /dev/foo | 11:55 |
| martinphone | Do decimals work? tunes2fs -m 0.5% /dev/foo | 11:56 |
| forestpiskie | martinphone: no idea - I'd just 1 but try | 11:56 |
| joeythesaint | It's also good to keep in mind that HDD manufacturers use different values for what a GB is. Typically they still seem to be saying 1GB = 1000MB, which simply isn't true. :-) | 11:56 |
| forestpiskie | joeythesaint: +1 | 11:56 |
| martinphone | true joeythesaint | 11:57 |
| joeythesaint | Criminals. :-D | 11:57 |
| martinphone | worse than that.... | 11:57 |
| forestpiskie | martinphone: no idea about the mount thing - but I can have a look in a while - just about to go afk | 11:57 |
| martinphone | lol, No command 'tunes2fs' found, did you mean | 11:58 |
| martinphone | goin to synaptic | 11:58 |
| forestpiskie | whoops | 11:58 |
| forestpiskie | tune2fs | 11:59 |
| martinphone | aa. ok | 11:59 |
| martinphone | does that come by default in xubuntu? | 11:59 |
| forestpiskie | yep | 11:59 |
| martinphone | crap: tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) | 12:00 |
| martinphone | tune2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/foo | 12:00 |
| martinphone | Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. | 12:00 |
| forestpiskie | change foo to wahtever the drive is :) | 12:00 |
| Mofasa | Could someone please take a look at my issue. | 12:00 |
| forestpiskie | what did gparted call it | 12:00 |
| martinphone | yes, i cd ed to it | 12:00 |
| martinphone | a crap, you mean the partition, not just usb... | 12:00 |
| martinphone | ok | 12:00 |
| forestpiskie | yea partition | 12:00 |
| forestpiskie | Mofasa: if someone can answer you they will | 12:01 |
| joeythesaint | Oh, martinphone, I wasn't paying attention. Did you just partition this drive? | 12:01 |
| forestpiskie | yea | 12:01 |
| martinphone | joeythesaint, I bought it, created an ext4 partition for all the thing | 12:02 |
| martinphone | from home dir, how do I cd to /dev/sdb1? | 12:02 |
| joeythesaint | Ah. If it's internal you'll likely need to reboot. External you should just be able to power it down and power it back up again. | 12:02 |
| martinphone | i tried media/usb, but nothing | 12:02 |
| joeythesaint | A friend of mine a few years back patched his kernel to be able to invalidate it's understanding of partition tables while running but it was an ugly hack and nothing that would ever be accepted upstream, as I recall. | 12:03 |
| joeythesaint | You can't cd to /dev/sdb1, it's a device, not actually a filesystem. | 12:03 |
| forestpiskie | tune2fs should still see it | 12:03 |
| joeythesaint | Yeah, if it doesn't it's likely because the kernel doesn't quite know about it yet. | 12:04 |
| forestpiskie | I've never had to reboot to fiddle with unmounted partitions | 12:04 |
| joeythesaint | It's just when you create a new one on an internal drive. | 12:04 |
| forestpiskie | mmm - perhaps | 12:04 |
| joeythesaint | fdisk tells you that when you finish up with it, actually. | 12:04 |
| joeythesaint | Or it used to. | 12:04 |
| * joeythesaint doesn't typically read the output from fdisk/cfdisk these days. | 12:05 | |
| forestpiskie | k - long time since I could afford new hardware - probably not remembering :) | 12:05 |
| forestpiskie | biab | 12:05 |
| joeythesaint | Still, if this is a usb external drive, it shouldn't matter. The udev/hotplug stuff should take care of it if you just disconnect it and reconnect it after creating your partitions. | 12:06 |
| joeythesaint | Though you'll likely *then* need to do the 'mke2fs -t ext4 <other options>' step. | 12:07 |
| martinphone | I have labelled the HDD, I can now open it with file manager. In terminal I still get: tune2fs 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010) | 12:09 |
| martinphone | tune2fs: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/foo | 12:09 |
| martinphone | Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. | 12:09 |
| martinphone | Is that because it is owned by root? | 12:09 |
| joeythesaint | Oh! Okay, so at the terminal do this: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' (no 1, just the sdb, or whatever your disk is. | 12:10 |
| joeythesaint | That's a - little-L option. List partition table info. | 12:11 |
| martinphone | /dev/sdb1 2048 1953523711 976760832 83 Linux | 12:11 |
| martinphone | do you want to see the whole output? | 12:12 |
| joeythesaint | Okey doke. So /dev/sdb is your disk, /dev/sdb1 is your partition. tune2fs needs to be pointed at /dev/sdb1 | 12:12 |
| joeythesaint | Nah, that's all I needed. | 12:12 |
| joeythesaint | So then what does this do: 'sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt'? | 12:13 |
| joeythesaint | Does it actually succeed in mounting your filesystem on /mnt? | 12:13 |
| martinphone | joeythesaint, from home dir, right? | 12:13 |
| joeythesaint | Yeah, doesn't matter where you do that command. | 12:13 |
| joeythesaint | Except you shouldn't be in /mnt already. | 12:14 |
| joeythesaint | Anywhere else is fine. | 12:14 |
| martinphone | joeythesaint, it doesnt appear in /mnt, but in /media | 12:14 |
| joeythesaint | Oh, it's already mounted? | 12:14 |
| martinphone | Im sorry, I may be confusing you, but the truth is I have no idea | 12:15 |
| martinphone | apparently yes, but I dont recall how I did it | 12:15 |
| joeythesaint | It's not safe to tune2fs on a mounted filesystem. It's supposed to be possible in ext4 but it's still experimental and kind of dicey. | 12:15 |
| martinphone | so gparted unmount, then terminal | 12:15 |
| joeythesaint | Stuff that gets mounted in /media tends to be done automatically by your system. Don't worry about that. | 12:16 |
| joeythesaint | You've got several options for unmounting. Obviously I'm most comfortable with the command line so I'd do this: "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" | 12:16 |
| joeythesaint | Then, yeah, tune2fs away and you shold be good. | 12:16 |
| joeythesaint | s/shold/should/ | 12:16 |
| joeythesaint | Once you're done you should just be able to unplug the device and plug it back in again and it should automatically mount again in the same spot. | 12:17 |
| martinphone | tune2fs -m 1 /dev/foo or tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdb1? | 12:17 |
| joeythesaint | Probably some horrible hex number that is the device's UUID and not meaningful to humans at all. | 12:17 |
| joeythesaint | tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdb1 | 12:18 |
| martinphone | is it normal that the newly formatted hdd is owned by root? | 12:18 |
| joeythesaint | Yep. | 12:18 |
| martinphone | Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. | 12:19 |
| joeythesaint | Once it's mounted you can create directories there owned by your regular user. Something like "sudo mkdir /media/<device_name>/martin; sudo chown martin:martin /media/<device_name>/martin" and you're off to the races. | 12:20 |
| joeythesaint | Ah, so that says there's partition information but the fs is borked. You haven't put anything on there yet, have you? | 12:20 |
| martinphone | no, nothing in there, just the lost+found directory | 12:21 |
| joeythesaint | ... weird. | 12:21 |
| joeythesaint | One sec. | 12:21 |
| joeythesaint | manpage seems to indicate tune2fs should be able to identify it as ext4 properly. | 12:22 |
| joeythesaint | Well, if there's nothing else there, nuke and pave. No harm in it. | 12:23 |
| martinphone | im sorry if this is my fault: I just added sudo and the thing worked | 12:23 |
| * joeythesaint checks the manpages. | 12:23 | |
| martinphone | were you assuming I was in the terminal as root? | 12:23 |
| joeythesaint | Oh! | 12:23 |
| joeythesaint | Yeah, sorry, everything you do on the devices you have to do it as root. | 12:23 |
| joeythesaint | :-) | 12:23 |
| martinphone | ok | 12:24 |
| martinphone | now back to gparted to mount, right? | 12:24 |
| joeythesaint | Yessir. | 12:24 |
| martinphone | I get different total counts on gparted and filesystem, is that normal? | 12:29 |
| martinphone | raining cats and dogs oer here | 12:30 |
| martinphone | crap, I wanted to do some jogging | 12:30 |
| matteo75fe | hi | 12:34 |
| matteo75fe | when the 12.04 coming out??? | 12:35 |
| matteo75fe | sorry, my english is not very good.. | 12:35 |
| martinphone | 18 days | 12:35 |
| martinphone | are you italian? | 12:36 |
| matteo75fe | yes | 12:36 |
| martinphone | a, I only know swear words | 12:36 |
| matteo75fe | swear? | 12:36 |
| martinphone | yes, like van fan culo figlio di putana, or coglioni | 12:36 |
| matteo75fe | yes, is international ! | 12:37 |
| martinphone | did I write that well? | 12:37 |
| martinphone | ego? | 12:37 |
| matteo75fe | figa culo tette | 12:37 |
| martinphone | what does that mean? | 12:37 |
| martinphone | i understand culo | 12:37 |
| matteo75fe | is a dirty word in italian | 12:38 |
| martinphone | could you give a similar meaning in english? | 12:38 |
| matteo75fe | but the favorite is FIGA | 12:38 |
| matteo75fe | figa = pussy | 12:38 |
| matteo75fe | culo = ass | 12:38 |
| martinphone | ahahahahaha | 12:38 |
| matteo75fe | tette = boob | 12:38 |
| bazhang | matteo75fe, stop that | 12:39 |
| martinphone | why bazhang ? its funny | 12:39 |
| bazhang | martinphone, lets move on | 12:39 |
| matteo75fe | the italian girl is so beautiful bat she is a precius | 12:39 |
| martinphone | ok matteo75fe , dont risk a ban, pm if you wanna share more italian words | 12:39 |
| joeythesaint | martinphone: Yeah, different counts is normal, all of the tools choose their own way to display 'size'. | 12:39 |
| joeythesaint | The one I use is the command line tool (not surprisingly) df. | 12:39 |
| martinphone | bazhang, that was uncalled for | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | df | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | /dev/sda5 223991844 204818072 7960808 97% / | 12:40 |
| bazhang | martinphone, perhaps you need to look at the channel guidelines | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | Hrm. Time to do something about that. | 12:40 |
| bazhang | !guidelines > martinphone | 12:40 |
| ubottu | martinphone, please see my private message | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | df -h will probably give you something you're more interested in here. | 12:40 |
| martinphone | ubottu, I dont see any private message | 12:40 |
| ubottu | martinphone: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 12:40 |
| joeythesaint | 'df -h /dev/sdb1' <--- for that you don't need sudo. | 12:40 |
| martinphone | lol, smart me | 12:40 |
| martinphone | joeythesaint, something weird is happening: for this newly formatted 1TB HDD labeled VOLUME3 file manager recognizes the mountpoint and mounts it as VOLUME3, but I have another older VOLUME1, and to access this one I must use /mnt/usb0 | 12:42 |
| martinphone | I mean, if I clikc on VOLUME1, nothing happens | 12:42 |
| martinphone | bazhang, is yours a permaban? | 12:43 |
| joeythesaint | Ugh. Sorry, now you're into the realm of automounting and dbus-y stuff. That's all way too new tech for me to understand. | 12:43 |
| bazhang | martinphone, lets move on, not your issue | 12:43 |
| joeythesaint | Probably someone else here can help with that, martinphone. | 12:43 |
| martinphone | ill wait for babble | 12:44 |
| martinphone | gtg | 12:47 |
| martinphone | crap, I cannot safely eject /mnt/usb0, the option does not exist | 12:48 |
| martinphone | i cannot eject volumes because daemon is inhibited | 13:16 |
| martinphone | help please | 13:16 |
| martinphone | volume = HDD | 13:16 |
| SandJ | Grrr. I have just tried reporting a bug with KMail in Ubuntu 11.10. At the end of the process bugs.kde.org came back and said "There is no version named '4.7.3' in the 'kmail2' product." but 4.7.3 is the version of KMail that is installed by the Ubuntu Software Centre. Any ideas? | 15:10 |
| SandJ | Oops. Ubuntu 11.10 --> Xubuntu 11.10 | 15:11 |
| bazhang | !info kmail | 15:11 |
| ubottu | kmail (source: kdepim): full featured graphical email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.4+git111222-0ubuntu0.1 (oneiric), package size 1007 kB, installed size 3868 kB | 15:11 |
| bazhang | looks like 4.7.4 SandJ | 15:12 |
| SandJ | "About KMail" says "KMail Version 4.7.3, Using KDE Development Platform 4.7.4 (4.7.4)" | 15:13 |
| SandJ | I used "Help", "Report Bug" and it says it is version 4.7.3 and I used the "Launch Bug Report Wizard" where I entered all the details and when I clicked on "Submit Bug Report", the web site rejected it saying there is no version 4.7.3 | 15:16 |
| SandJ | So, it appears there is a bug in v4.7.4 that it reports itself as a non-existent 4.7.3 which means you can;t report bugs against 4.7.4 ! So How do I report THAT bug? Aaaargghhh! | 15:17 |
| babble | have you updated? There should be a 4.7.4 update available for you which (may?) fix whatever problem you're having. The current package in oneric-updates is the 4.7.4 git build bazhang just mentioned. | 15:18 |
| babble | I'm also looking here: | 15:18 |
| babble | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kmail&searchon=names&suite=oneiric-updates§ion=all | 15:18 |
| SandJ | I installed this Xubuntu a week ago, KMail 2 days ago. There are no updates available. The package I have installed is 4:4.7.4+git111222-0ubuntu0.1 | 15:20 |
| babble | why are you trying to file a bug against 4.7.3 in that case? | 15:21 |
| SandJ | Because KMail is reporting itself as being 4.7.3 and I cannot over-ride that. | 15:21 |
| babble | have you checked the kmail maintainers' website, instead of using whatever internal bug reporting the app uses? | 15:21 |
| babble | you can file a bug against an unspecified version of kmail here: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kmail2 | 15:26 |
| babble | (you'll need to make an account), and then, in your bug description, be sure and tell them what version you have installed (and possibly that it's reporting itself as 4.7.3) | 15:26 |
| === StaffRingedSeal is now known as Myrtti | ||
| SandJ | @babble, thank you. | 15:32 |
| babble | just about everything that accepts bug reports these days has a bugtracker on the web someplace. | 15:33 |
| babble | if Oneric-updates is using a build from git, I suppose it's possible that version strings might not have gotten updated. | 15:36 |
| SandJ | I had spent 80 minutes working out how to reproduce a KMail folder filing bug and typed it up into the bugs web page, but could not submit it. I *hate* software that tries to be clever and then fails, and this was one of those instances. "Hey, I'll report what version I am for you! (and get it wrong!)" | 15:40 |
| babble | it's probably not the KDE maintainers' fault the git build in that ubuntu package is a hint. | 15:41 |
| babble | they're probably building that from an earlier git commit that will actually build in 11.10 successfully | 15:41 |
| babble | so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other: disable oneric-updates and don't get updated packages, or accept that this is a backport that in this once instance is a little problematic and go around kmail's own bug reporting. | 15:43 |
| babble | (if that's the case, be prepared for your bug to be closed with no action taken, however.) | 15:44 |
| babble | it looks like the tracker currently tracks 4.8 releases 4.8.3 and 4.8.4. | 15:46 |
| babble | search for things along the line of your problem and make sure it hasn't already been fixed in 4.8 | 15:46 |
| babble | if your problem HAS been fixed in 4.8, there's a 4.8 package in Precise. be patient. | 15:48 |
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| t800 | hi | 16:27 |
| t800 | is someone here, who probably may help me with pulseaudio? | 16:28 |
| SandJ | @t800: This is one of the places where you don't ask if you can ask, you just ask. :) | 16:30 |
| SandJ | Or you give up without asking. :-/ | 16:42 |
| martinphone | how is the part that mounts and unmounts usb HDD called? is there a package I can re install to see if it solves my defective mounts? | 16:51 |
| martinphone | why is my new HDD owned by root? I can only copy and paste data with nautilus... | 16:57 |
| martinphone | hello? | 16:58 |
| SandJ | @martinphone: is the USB HDD already partitioned and formatted? Why do you say it is defective? | 17:07 |
| martinphone | SandJ, because it does not automount: I can see the label , but if I cloick on it it does nothing | 17:07 |
| martinphone | it is a problem that has been lagging for some months now... maybe 6 | 17:08 |
| martinphone | click* | 17:08 |
| martinphone | and yes, already partitioned and formatted | 17:10 |
| SandJ | In my Xubuntu 11.10 that is set in: Settings, Settings Manager, Removable Drives & Media, Storage, Mount removable drives when hot-plugged | 17:10 |
| SandJ | and Mount removable media when inserted | 17:10 |
| martinphone | so do I SandJ | 17:13 |
| martinphone | do you know how to change permissions from the terminal? I cannot copy data to it, because I am not root | 17:13 |
| SandJ | When I formatted a UDB HDD to ext4 I could not access it; I had to reformat it as ext2. | 17:13 |
| SandJ | That was when I formatted it on another PC; root had access but I could not write to it. | 17:14 |
| SandJ | UDB HDD --> USB HDD | 17:14 |
| martinphone | and you could as ext2... | 17:15 |
| martinphone | as --> in | 17:15 |
| SandJ | And I could as ext2. | 17:15 |
| martinphone | how odd | 17:15 |
| SandJ | It is something to do with ext3 and ext4 preserving rights. I thought I was being clever when I did it. | 17:17 |
| martinphone | why didnt it happen to me back in ubuntu? | 17:19 |
| SandJ | Dunno. Is that when you formatted the drive? | 17:20 |
| martinphone | no, this is the 1st drive I format using xubuntu | 17:24 |
| martinphone | will this work? sudo chmod a+xw /dev/sdb1 | 17:24 |
| * SandJ is away: rebooting | 17:28 | |
| DinoMuffin | So has anyone here had issues with the intel graphics driver locking up when playing games? It seems to be a bit unstable now | 17:28 |
| DinoMuffin | Specifically, X seems to go into an infinite loop at some point duing gameplay, so the keyboard and mouse become completely unresponsive | 17:30 |
| DinoMuffin | I see no evidence of a kernel panic or hard lock as it still responds to sysreq | 17:30 |
| DinoMuffin | X reports " EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop." | 17:31 |
| DinoMuffin | I'm unable to envoke the virtual terminal, however. :/ | 17:31 |
| Kingsy | guys, I have just plugged in a usb mic and the levels are REALLY low, I can barely hear the play back and on audacity I can hardly see he wave form.. it IS recording tho.. I can hear it.. audacity says its using ALSA but alsamixer master volume is already set to 100% what am I missing? | 18:07 |
| holstein | Kingsy: i might try pavucontrol, assuming you are using pulse | 18:24 |
| holstein | you can try JACK with something like ardour, where there are things like jackmixer to boost the signal | 18:25 |
| holstein | though, i would prefer boosting the signal with a proper hardware, like a nice preamp | 18:25 |
| holstein | USB mics are not made for what you are trying to use them for typically... they are for speaking directly into them | 18:26 |
| chiliblue | Hi folks, looking for help with audio over hdmi on a nvidia 210. | 18:47 |
| chiliblue | I have it sort of working, well the menu sounds work in xbmc, I can send sound to it, but no desktop sounds (or when video plays for that matter) | 18:47 |
| chiliblue | I get sound through Card 0, Device 7, but xubuntu is seeing 4 devices, how do I get it to see and use only the right one. | 18:49 |
| chiliblue | anyone know of a how to on this, everything I find is ubuntu rather than xubuntu. | 18:52 |
| Kingsy | holstein: sorry m8, about the late reply.. | 18:53 |
| holstein | chiliblue: should work fine | 18:53 |
| holstein | chiliblue: xubuntu = ubuntu with XFCE and other customizations | 18:53 |
| Kingsy | holstein: I fixed it, I increased the mic capture volume.. it was really low | 18:53 |
| holstein | chiliblue: i would try pavucontrol if you are using pulse | 18:53 |
| chiliblue | Yes I wanted something lighter hence xubuntu | 18:54 |
| Kingsy | holstein: but now its my webcam.. giving me REALLY low res crappy framerate output from vlc | 18:54 |
| Kingsy | holstein: thanks for the advice tho | 18:54 |
| holstein | chiliblue: im not suggesting ubuntu.. im saying that the how-to's for ubuntu should work.. and im suggesting the package pavucontrol | 18:54 |
| chiliblue | i am using pulse, its really driving me nuts, sound was working in video but not in menus and now its the other way around. But I can't understand why I don't have any desktop sounds (I might be being dim...but I take it xubuntu does normally have desktop sounds | 18:55 |
| chiliblue | I have pavucontrol installed. | 18:56 |
| holstein | chiliblue: i dont think there are sounds | 18:59 |
| holstein | chiliblue: assume nothing... if you dont hear any, and havent, there's probably not any | 18:59 |
| chiliblue | Thanks holstein, that is one thing I don't have to worry about then | 19:07 |
| Mokura | How would I go about disabling keys on the keyboard? My Thinkpad X40 has forward and back keys right next to the arrow keys and it's annoying when I accidentially hit them while web browsing. | 19:11 |
| Mokura | ThinkWiki isn't exactly clear on the matter, and the page I was looking at was more for ENABLING the special functions. | 19:11 |
| martinphone | can hidden files be copied if I ctrl+h to see them and copy them? | 19:22 |
| forestpiskie | yep | 19:23 |
| Mokura | Alright, repeating the question since there are more people about: how would I go about disabling certain keys on my keyboard? | 19:23 |
| Mokura | notably, the forward/back keys | 19:24 |
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| yrussq | Hi evrbdy! I have question - after updating to 12.04 beta - in Mozilla addon Flashaid i have message: "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal. | 20:11 |
| yrussq | getpt failed: No such file or directory." How can i fix it? | 20:11 |
| babble | looks like a few similar bugs have been reported. | 20:15 |
| babble | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/245956 | 20:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 321927 in insserv (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #245956 /dev/pts and /dev/shm not mounted on boot" [Low,Confirmed] | 20:15 |
| babble | it looks like a /dev virtual device isn't getting created. | 20:15 |
| babble | this is a fix from that particular launchpad thread: | 20:16 |
| babble | http://paste.ubuntu.com/923918/ | 20:16 |
| yrussq | babble: thanx! i'll better go check the links :) Have found some solutions for Archlinux but they didn't help me yesterday. | 20:28 |
| Mokura | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdk-pixbuf/+bug/927393 not my post, but is there anything I can do about that other than possibly 'wait for 12.04 official'? | 20:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 927393 in gdk-pixbuf (Ubuntu) "GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale_simple: assertion `dest_width > 0' failed" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:29 |
| Mokura | er, well, "release", not official | 20:30 |
| xubuntu550 | hi, who are speak french please ? | 20:50 |
| martinphone | je peux parler un peut, mais ne tres bien | 21:30 |
| martinphone | un peu* | 21:30 |
| well_laid_lawn | !fr | martinphone | 21:32 |
| ubottu | martinphone: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 21:32 |
| Mofasa | my computer keep shutting off itself from time to time. Says like when u use the shutdown cmd in all terminals Description: (unknown) | 21:33 |
| martinphone | that I get for being nice | 21:33 |
| Mofasa | anyone know why this might happen? | 21:33 |
| Mofasa | or how to go deeper... | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | Check the logs in /var/log/ | 21:34 |
| well_laid_lawn | martinphone: I had no idea what you had said - the other bloke had left | 21:35 |
| Brambor | Zdarec | 21:41 |
| Brambor | Hele jsem na xubuntu nový...vlastně celý linux je pro mě trochu španělská vesnice...může mi někdo dát pár rad do začátku? :) | 21:42 |
| martinphone | if I copy .firefox (hidden file) and nuke it, I can still get FF as it was before the nuking by copying this hidden into my home folder, right? | 21:42 |
| martinphone | nuke the machine | 21:43 |
| martinphone | so no french but czech is allowed?? | 21:43 |
| martinphone | or any other slavic language that may be... | 21:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | was that czech? there is | 21:43 |
| Brambor | Sorry, I'm new here...is this english only channel? | 21:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | !cz | 21:44 |
| ubottu | České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme. | 21:44 |
| martinphone | jackpot | 21:44 |
| Unit193 | martinphone: You should be able to just fine. | 21:44 |
| martinphone | Unit193, I have like 20 apps I need to keep the config for | 21:44 |
| martinphone | after the nuking | 21:44 |
| Unit193 | Well, hidden folder rather than file. | 21:44 |
| martinphone | yes, that | 21:44 |
| martinphone | all my hidden folders ammount to 12GB | 21:45 |
| martinphone | never though could be that much | 21:45 |
| babble | are you including .cache? | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | You could nuke the cahce of ff for example. | 21:45 |
| babble | (if you're getting .firefox, I believe you are. let me check.) | 21:45 |
| well_laid_lawn | or .gvfs | 21:45 |
| babble | and yes, if you've got mounted .gvfs volumes, there's that | 21:46 |
| martinphone | a, crap, yes babble that too | 21:46 |
| martinphone | I can get rid of it, it wouldnt make any sense in a new installation, would it? | 21:47 |
| babble | you don't need to back up cache items, most typically. | 21:48 |
| martinphone | without it, still 11 GB | 21:49 |
| babble | what's in your home folder ~/.firefox? My ff profile is in ~/.mozilla | 21:49 |
| martinphone | mine too babble | 21:49 |
| martinphone | i hust wrote that without checking its real location | 21:49 |
| babble | you said .firefox | 21:49 |
| Unit193 | I'd recommend using du or ncdu. | 21:49 |
| martinphone | just* | 21:49 |
| babble | what do you have in ~/.gvfs, if anything? | 21:50 |
| martinphone | nothing at all babble | 21:50 |
| babble | check and see if any of your apps make their own cache folders outside of ~/.cache (Firestorm does this in its own prefs directory) | 21:51 |
| martinphone | what are .goutputstream-01NS5V hidden files? | 21:53 |
| babble | gstreamer, I think. | 21:54 |
| babble | let me check | 21:54 |
| babble | they're the results of a Gnome function called GoOutputStream in Gnome applications, and are safely deletable. | 21:55 |
| martinphone | thx babble | 21:57 |
| martinphone | soon ill be ready to drop a nuke... | 22:02 |
| babble | I always clean install my system on a new release. | 22:02 |
| babble | but I told you that already. | 22:02 |
| martinphone | yes babble | 22:04 |
| Mokura | Alright, so. I seem to have painted myself into a corner. I've installed some font patches from http://www.infinality.net/blog/infinality-freetype-patches/ , is there any way to go back to the default freetype? | 22:38 |
| Mokura | http://www.infinality.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77#p794 the installation instructions I used, since I'm not on Fedora | 22:39 |
| chiliblue | anyone good with hdmi audio around | 22:39 |
| GridCube | nope, but what do you need chiliblue | 22:42 |
| chiliblue | I have a hp microserver with a nvidia 210 card, I can get the thing to make sound but I am struggling with it in xbmc | 22:44 |
| martinphone | I still get this when trying to unmount a usb HDD: umount: /media/usb0 is not in the fstab (and you are not root) | 22:45 |
| martinphone | should I go sudo unmount /dev/sdb1 ? | 22:46 |
| martinphone | thats the gparted name for usb0 | 22:46 |
| chiliblue | try it | 22:46 |
| GridCube | chiliblue, tried configuring yuor sound e | 22:47 |
| GridCube | with pavucontrol | 22:47 |
| GridCube | ? | 22:47 |
| chiliblue | I have pavucontrol | 22:47 |
| chiliblue | not entirel I am meant to be setting up like thoughy sure what | 22:47 |
| chiliblue | sorry, reclining with laptop | 22:48 |
| chiliblue | not sure I really understand what right looks like in pavucontrol | 22:48 |
| GridCube | ? | 22:48 |
| GridCube | say again? | 22:49 |
| chiliblue | let me fire it up, and perhaps you can explain what I am meant to be doing | 22:50 |
| martinphone | wow, it worked, but the HDD keeps making noise... | 22:51 |
| martinphone | there it worked | 22:51 |
| GridCube | chiliblue, sure thing | 22:51 |
| chiliblue | ok, output devices. there are 2 hdmi and high definition audio controller digital stereo (hdmi) nr 2 | 22:52 |
| chiliblue | the later is in port hdmi 2 | 22:52 |
| GridCube | chiliblue, are you playing the musics? | 22:53 |
| chiliblue | although there is only on hdmi port on the card | 22:53 |
| chiliblue | mainly audio for video | 22:53 |
| chiliblue | my issue in xbmc is that it plays sound for the menu until I play a video file, video audio plays but the menu sounds go...and then there is this issue with it hanging when I try to play a second video file, I think it might be audio related | 22:54 |
| chiliblue | what should my fall back setting be? seems to defalt to the first hdac | 22:56 |
| chiliblue | other than volume that pretty much the only option I can alter in output deviced | 22:56 |
| GridCube | i would try them all while playing | 22:56 |
| chiliblue | devices | 22:56 |
| GridCube | chiliblue, its not like i dont want to help you, but i think you might get better answers at #xbmc | 22:57 |
| chiliblue | in config I have 8 options | 22:58 |
| babble | does it give you problems in xbmc-unstable? | 22:58 |
| chiliblue | this eden I haven't tried unstable | 22:58 |
| babble | shot in the dark, but I wonder if there may be wider hardware support in the development branch | 22:58 |
| chiliblue | I was hoping stable would be well stable | 22:58 |
| babble | I'm running unstable, and I'm not having huge issues, but YMMV of course. | 22:59 |
| chiliblue | it isn't a new card to be honest | 22:59 |
| babble | I wasn't thinking new, necessarily. | 22:59 |
| chiliblue | babble is the video wierdness at the begining of video play normal? | 22:59 |
| babble | not for me, but again, I can't say what may or may not be happening on your hardware. | 23:00 |
| chiliblue | well the video card is handling decoding so perhaps it is something to do with that, all seems related to the hdmi audio. | 23:00 |
| babble | it may be purely me talking out of thin air, but contributed code for things like particular patches for particular cards will land in svn before they roll into the stable release, right? so... | 23:01 |
| babble | given that the team xbmc ppa is building -unstable from snapshots, ... | 23:02 |
| chiliblue | no arguing with the logic | 23:03 |
| babble | I'm not trying to argue anything | 23:03 |
| babble | I'm just wondering | 23:03 |
| chiliblue | sound is such pita in linux, I miss the sb16 days | 23:03 |
| babble | I've spent three days trying to get a workable JACK/midi toolchain that doesn't make me want to claw my eyeballs out in frustration. hehe. | 23:04 |
| chiliblue | I guess I am used to things just working in linux, losing my edge when things go tits up | 23:05 |
| babble | I'm normally up for figuring things out, getting things working. | 23:05 |
| babble | audio is one place where I generally just give up and hop back into Logic or Garageband on a Macintosh. | 23:05 |
| babble | heh. | 23:05 |
| chiliblue | this is so sound related. With the wrong wettings the video fires straight up (no sound) no stuttering | 23:07 |
| chiliblue | settings rather | 23:07 |
| babble | it sounds like it, but I can't offer any specific fixes for your hardware, unfortunately. | 23:08 |
| Mokura | bah, okay, sorry to bail like that | 23:08 |
| babble | try unstable? It can't be any worse than what you have now, can it? | 23:08 |
| chiliblue | no really | 23:08 |
| babble | the unstable ppa is here, if you need: | 23:09 |
| babble | https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/unstable | 23:09 |
| chiliblue | so frustrating, I am trying to dump a winxp mediaportal combo...which I ended up with because there was 0 support for my dvt-s/t card | 23:09 |
| chiliblue | thanks babble, | 23:10 |
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