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jussiRiddell: ROCK ON! 06:14
ybitRiddell: I've already joined you, what more do you want from me! ;)06:24
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jussi:)06:29
RiddellMamarok, jussi, ybit: thanks :)07:27
bambeeRiddell: wow, that's a good new for kubuntu!! :D  ("Kubuntu to be Sponsored by Blue Systems")08:17
Riddellbambee: certainly is08:41
Riddelland lots of positive comments on slashdot and elsewhere08:42
bambeeindeed!08:42
bambeeand what about your career at canonical? I mean, blue systems plans to sponsor your work on kubuntu or it's a sponsor for the community ? (for hardware, servers, travels, and so on)08:46
Riddellboth08:47
Riddelldebfx: tsdgeos: I'm planning to merge this in https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/91856608:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 918566 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "unity-2d-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal()" [Critical,In progress]08:49
Riddellfregl: presumably you've been involved in that?08:50
tsdgeosRiddell: paweł's fix for accessibility is evil08:50
tsdgeosbeen using his ppa since yesterday, nothing exploded in my face yet :D08:50
tsdgeosafaik yes, fregl's been involved08:51
Riddelltsdgeos: umm evil in what way?08:52
tsdgeosRiddell: the evil applies to accessibility code we have, not to the fix for the code, my sentence needed parenthesis :D08:52
tsdgeosi.e fix  for "accessibility is evil"08:52
tsdgeosnot evil fix for accessibility :D08:53
Riddell:)08:53
* yofel yawns08:53
yofelgood morning :)08:53
Riddellmorning ybit 08:54
Riddelltsk08:54
Riddellmorning yofel 08:54
Riddellyofel: did you upload akonadi to backports ppa?08:58
yofelyes08:58
Riddellcos there's an e-mail arrived from a user saying it's broken his system08:58
yofelbroke as in - apt error or akonadi failing?09:01
yofelor apt being creative again?09:01
Riddellyofel: http://paste.kde.org/455354/09:03
RiddellI'll do some checks myself shortly, needs to be in good working order for calligra release this evening09:03
yofelaaaaaaaaaaaaah09:04
Riddellaah?09:04
yofelmy fault -.-09:04
yofelI didn't fix the mysql dependencies for oneiric09:05
Riddelland now he's using gnome!  quick quick!09:05
Riddellor I could just be petty and point out he's using Unity :)09:05
* yofel wonders if it would be too evil to just mark kubuntu-meta as Essential for that PPA09:20
yofelor I could just make myself a test archive before putting something in there -.-09:20
claydohRiddell: congrats!!  It's good to have good news09:21
Riddellclaydoh: bit of a tautology there :)09:24
Riddellyofel: that's what staging is for :)09:25
Riddellhi vprints 09:29
vprintshi :)09:30
vprintshappy downstream here09:30
Riddelldoods: vprints make an Estonian themed derivative09:30
claydohYou are right, Riddell  12 hours at work make me loopy, but still ;)09:31
Riddellvprints: apachelogger hasn't been around for a while actually, his boot splash packages are somewhere and needing testing09:31
yofelsplash stuff is in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages09:31
Riddellyofel: I'm getting worried apachelogger is in a monestry for holy week and won't be back until too late, should we just upload it for him?09:32
vprints:)09:33
Riddellvprints: anyway testing needed of kubuntu-default-settings and plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo from that archive09:34
vprintsokidoki09:35
yofelfine with me09:35
nigelbRiddell: Hey, congrats on the move :)10:18
Riddellthanks :)10:19
Riddelldebfx: hum10:25
Riddelldebfx: in removing the .desktop translations stuff you also removed the .pot generation stuff10:26
Riddellthat's why calligra has no translations10:26
BluesKajHey all11:29
* fregl pokes tsdgeos for calling accessibility evil :)11:58
fregland yes, the patch looks good to me, especially since it gets rid of useless stuff11:58
freglRiddell: congrats11:59
Riddellthanks :)12:06
bulldog98ScottK: I upstreamed the patch of kdesdk-dolphin-plugins12:39
ScottKbulldog98: Thanks.12:46
tsdgeosfregl: accessibility rocks, the patch you made is a little evil :-P12:54
fregltsdgeos: agreed :)13:07
freglit was never supposed to see the light of day like this though13:08
tsdgeos;-)13:08
RiddellScottK: new pkg-kde-tools uploaded for review13:18
ScottKOK.  I'll have a look.13:18
Riddelldebfx: that adds back the kubuntu bits to generate .pot files, but not for .desktop files13:18
Riddellhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/calligra-2.4.0  for those with access, to be published this evening13:31
Riddellgo ahead and publish if I'm out13:32
debfxRiddell: uh oh, shouldn't have removed the .pot generating parts13:37
debfxit's about time launchpad stops interfering with our translations13:37
Riddellwell it will after May13:38
Riddellwhich means we'll have the hassle of making our own language packs13:39
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Riddellyofel: where are we with kde-workspace?14:08
yofelready I believe, except that I didn't get a clear answer about the FFe14:08
yofeland the bug being against another package14:08
ScottKWhat FFe?14:09
yofelbug 95618614:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 956186 in kubuntu-active-meta (Ubuntu) "kwin needs separate compile for active" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95618614:09
yofelScottK: for kwin active14:09
ScottKRiddell: If you can make sure ^^^ works, I'll do the release team/new stuff.14:10
ScottKyofel: FFe approved.14:10
Riddelllooking now14:10
yofelI've been running the new package the last few dasy, nothing particulary broken14:16
rbelemthanks yofel :-)14:26
rbelemRiddell, may i update plasma-active to lastest version, 2.1?14:28
Riddellrbelem: yeah I think so, any major changes?14:35
rbelemRiddell, I'm not sure, but I know that there are lots of bug fixes14:36
Riddellrbelem: go for it, worst that can happen is an archive admin rejects it14:38
rbelem:-D14:38
rbelemRiddell, oki14:38
BluesKajthat damn virtuoso is acting up again , 95% cpu ...this getting really annoying14:41
BluesKajand I'm not gonna rename kde to fix it14:42
bulldog98_Riddell: btw what would you think about moving owncloud to debian, so everybody can use it?14:42
* bulldog98_ bought a Raspberry Pi and there is no support for it’s Arm with Kubuntu14:42
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BluesKajoh well, killing virtuoso didn't seem to hurt anything14:45
Riddellbulldog98: if someone wants to put it in debian that's all good14:46
Riddellit's increased effort though14:47
Riddellrbelem: 4.8.2a-0ubuntu2~ should be 4:4.8.2a-0ubuntu2~ in debian/changelog in kde-workspace16:15
DarkwingRiddell: Did I screw up that docs package? Or did I remember it correctly?16:34
Riddellrbelem: plasma-active (= ${binary:Version})  removed the (= ${binary:Version})  cos it's not built from the same package16:35
Riddellrbelem, yofel: kde-workspace uploaded!16:35
RiddellScottK: that'll need some Unapproved then some New love16:35
RiddellDarkwing: I've no idea I haven't seen any docs package from you16:35
yofelthanks, and thanks for the changelog fix..16:35
bulldog98Riddell: is okular in kubuntu-active seed?16:35
DarkwingRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/Kubuntu/kubuntu-docs/Precise/16:36
Riddellbulldog98: I don't know, just check16:36
Riddellbulldog98: it's in ubuntu-seeds on launchpad16:37
RiddellDarkwing: groovy, I'll look in a sec16:37
* ScottK looks16:37
DarkwingRiddell: Thanks mate.16:37
RiddellDarkwing: docs/welcome/C/welcome.xml:1: parser error : Start tag expected, '<' not found16:41
Riddelldocs/office/C/office.xml:49: parser error : Entity 'menuloimpress' not defined16:41
* Darkwing raises an eyebrow16:41
Riddelldocs/manage-software/C/manage-software.xml:38: parser error : Entity 'menumuon' not defined16:41
DarkwingI'll re-validate the docs and rebuild.16:42
Riddelldocs/about/C/about.xml:1: parser error : Document is empty16:42
ScottKRiddell: Accepted.  Here we go ...16:56
Riddellrbelem: do we need to make changes to the seeds to the kde-workspace changes?16:57
DarkwingI like that term... Kubuneteer17:01
Riddellfeels like too many 'e's17:02
RiddellKubunteer works better17:02
DarkwingI agree...17:02
DarkwingHmmz, maybe we shoudl get that on badges for UDS :P17:03
shadeslayerIf you do, hand one over to Riddell so that he can give it to me at Akademy :P17:05
Darkwinghehehe. :)17:07
DarkwingI'm puzzled... why would someone try and install nautilus on kubuntu...17:09
Riddellmaybe it was awesome features we don't know about17:09
* Darkwing snickers17:09
DarkwingThat should be joke of the week. :P:P17:10
Riddellor maybe as a product of a failed dot-com boom company people are wanting to make a new business out of it and sell to facebook for a billion dollars17:10
Riddelljust call it Nautilus App and it's an easy fortune17:10
Darkwinghehehe17:10
DarkwingI saw this yesterday and I'm saving it till drupalCon.17:11
Darkwing[14:10:08] <tenach> D:< I hate derpal17:11
Darkwing[14:10:10] <tenach> *Drupal17:11
Darkwing[14:11:01] <paultag> hahaha17:11
Darkwing[14:11:03] <paultag> derpal17:11
jussiDarkwing: Riddell, because nautilus has dropbox integration :P :P17:12
* jussi giggle17:12
jussis17:12
* Darkwing pauses...17:12
Darkwingand a colonoscopy helps to see if I have cancer... I'm not volunteering.17:13
LinkmasterJust to let you guys know, kubuntu is really something. I put the 12.04B1 on a test rig I had just built, practically everything worked out of the box (:17:14
Riddelljussi: mm fair point17:14
RiddellLinkmaster: lovely, thanks :)17:14
Riddellanyone on 12.10 able to test krita 2.4.0?17:14
Riddellit saves .png files as black for me17:14
DavieyRiddell: 12.10.. crikey.. you chaps do plan ahead.17:15
Riddelluh no17:15
Riddellanyone on 12.04 able to test krita 2.4.0?17:15
Riddelloff by 0.06 error17:15
DarkwingI'd have to install it... give me a moment.17:16
* shadeslayer wonders why he has a label called "Maverick Changes"17:17
GirlyGirlRiddell: works here17:17
RiddellGirlyGirl: krita saving .png files in 12.04?17:18
jussiRiddell: 2.4 RC2? 17:18
GirlyGirlyes17:18
Riddelljussi: 2.4.017:18
RiddellGirlyGirl: ok good, maybe it's just me17:18
* jussi needs to update17:19
GirlyGirlRiddell: http://www.picamatic.com/show/2012/04/11/09/21/8341509_1024x600.jpeg17:20
RiddellGirlyGirl: that's what I want to check thanks, good that it's not a problem for everyone17:21
GirlyGirlRiddell: Except that icons in my toolbox are missing in krita as you can see17:22
RiddellGirlyGirl: are you running an obscure icon theme?17:23
GirlyGirlNo oxygen17:23
Riddellhmm, a mystery17:24
ScottKRiddell: Why did you skip ubuntu2 on calligra?17:24
ScottKAlso, how does an empty package prevent crashes?17:24
ScottKprecent/prevent too.17:25
Riddellkde bug 29790017:25
ubottuKDE bug 297900 in general "Calligra Words crash on start" [Crash,Resolved: worksforme] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29790017:25
Riddellquick fix for that17:25
Riddell1:2.4.0-0ubuntu2 was "Rebuild with latest pkg-kde-tools to generate .pot files"17:25
Riddellalthough I see I have no .upload file so maybe it never left my hard disk17:26
ScottKIt doesn't appear to have.17:26
ScottKI still don't see how an empty package fixes that bug, but since you've another upload to do, whatever.17:27
ScottKRiddell: I'll reject the current one and then you can mash them together as ubuntu2.17:27
bulldog98yofel: have you tested marble-touch after you changed the location of the plugin?17:29
RiddellScottK: easiest way to ensure there isn't an old version of the plugin lying around without causing packaging hassles when the plugin reappears in future versions17:31
ScottKOK. Fair enough.  I'll review/approve after you re-upload.17:31
bulldog98can someone test if marble-touch is working?17:32
Riddellbulldog98: "qrc:/main.qml:9:1: module "org.kde.edu.marble.qtcomponents" is not installed 17:37
Riddell"17:37
rbelemRiddell, nice! :-) some changes are needed17:39
rbelemRiddell, bulldog98 made some fixes to startactive and i will take a look on it now17:40
Riddellrbelem: remember we release in two weeks, going to get harder to put in last minute changes with every day that goes by!17:40
rbelemRiddell, oki. i will run to do it today17:41
shadeslayerWhy does G+ suddenly look like Unity17:46
Riddellthemed I expect17:46
* shadeslayer wants his old G+ back17:47
ScottKRiddell: Would you please review doko's stigi upload?17:50
tsimpsonshadeslayer: suddenly?17:50
shadeslayertsimpson: huh?17:50
ScottKshadeslayer: I want the G+ back where Google's privacy policy didn't allow them to share my information throughout the company.17:50
tsimpsonshadeslayer: G+ has has a unity feel to it since the beta, now it's just just more obvious17:51
shadeslayerScottK: re read your "Ubuntu is on the unity train" on UDD, replacing Ubuntu with Google and Unity with G+ :P17:51
RiddellScottK: ok17:51
ScottKshadeslayer: I'm not wasting my time ranting at Google about it.17:52
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.17:52
shadeslayerlol17:52
bulldog98Riddell: ok I’ll have a look at marble-touch17:52
Riddellthanks17:53
bulldog98seems like the qml files are not installed at all17:59
* bulldog98 has to dig in the building process18:05
ybitRiddell: good morning to you as well18:17
Riddelltoo late, I'm away18:19
Riddell:)18:19
* Riddell out18:19
bulldog98marble has a bug in it’s buildsystem I’d say18:20
bulldog98they don’t install the qml files at all18:20
ScottKRiddell: calligra's in.18:20
* bulldog98 finally got what the problem is18:24
ybitany plans on switching over to btrfs in future releases, maybe 13.04?.. :)18:31
ScottKybit: We'll do whatever Ubuntu does on foundational stuff like that.18:35
ScottKThe installer supports btrfs now, so if that's what you want, you can have it.18:35
CIA-42[marble] Jonathan Kolberg * 32 * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Fixed that marble-touch can not find the module18:37
BluesKajand what are the advantages of a btrfs format , ScottK ?18:38
ScottKNo idea.18:38
ScottKIt wasn't me that brought it up.18:38
BluesKajScottK, sorry , ybit ?18:39
BluesKajnm ..researching 18:40
bulldog98ScottK: do you want to reupload marble to fix the marble-touch not finding module bug?18:43
ScottKI need to leave here in a moment, so I won't be able to upload it, but it sounds like something that someone should upload.18:43
* bulldog98 had to patch the c++ source to made it finding the costumise qmlplugin path yofel introduced18:47
bulldog98apachelogger: time to upload something to archive?18:50
CIA-42[marble] Jonathan Kolberg * 33 * debian/changelog Fix marble-touch18:51
ybitBluesKaj: snapshots18:53
ybitrevert back to before disastrous upgrades18:54
BluesKajybit, so far btrfs reports are pretty neutral , no advantages in general over ext419:02
bulldog98BluesKaj: you don’t know apt-btrfs-snapshot19:05
bulldog98makes a snapshot everytime you install or purge something -> harder to completly break the system19:06
BluesKajbulldog98, hmm , dunno if that's an advantage or not ...been trying to purge stuff , but sometimes it won't go away, especially corrupted config files 19:10
bulldog98BluesKaj: btw btrfs also can compress everything it stores19:17
bulldog98and it can do subvolumes19:17
BluesKajwell, gotta go ...bandmates called ..jamtime19:18
yofelbulldog98: I didn't particulary  test it - didn't even know how to19:27
bulldog98yofel: yeah19:27
bulldog98it’s still broken19:27
bulldog98hm19:27
bulldog98yofel: it doesn’t even start19:28
bulldog98yofel: could you have a look at the patch I made?19:28
yofelybit: while btrfs works fine on my eeePC. I wouldn't make any bets currently on when it'll be used19:29
yofelthe system integration is rather bad still19:29
bulldog98yofel: that stuff depends on meego qml stuff19:30
yofelesp. since apt-btrfs-snapshot + symlinking apt-get to eatmydata is the only sane way to use apt on btrfs19:31
yofelbulldog98: seriously?19:32
bulldog98yofel: yes19:32
bulldog98just have a look into the main.qml the last import line19:32
yofelwhere's that patch of yours?19:33
bulldog98in bzr19:33
yofelnot on launchpad - maybe you didn't push?19:33
bulldog98yofel: not to bad, since if it uses meego stuff, we simply can’t package it19:34
bulldog98yofel: howto use eatmydata?19:35
bulldog98with apt and btrfs19:35
yofelsudo ln -s /usr/bin/eatmydata /usr/local/bin/apt-get is what I do19:35
yofelCOW just causes too much disk IO with dpkg now fsync-ing the database files all the time19:36
bulldog98yofel: btw btrfsck in git was able to repair my root file system after I had it being corupted19:36
yofelnow that's progress19:36
yofeliirc they merged some kind of auto-recovery too19:37
bulldog98yofel: after I did that symlink I just have to call apt-get the normal way right?19:39
yofelyep19:39
* bulldog98 hugs yofel for speeding up my updates19:39
bulldog98rbelem: active-browser has a bug, you can’t input something into the url bar. Can you confirm that?19:40
ScottKCan someone look at the strigi FTBFS?20:33
RiddellScottK: what's the state of calligra?20:40
ScottKRiddell: Building.20:40
ScottKLast I checked only amd64 was done.20:41
Riddelloh I see20:41
bulldog98Riddell: i386 also build20:49
Riddellwe're just waiting on upstream20:50
bulldog98Riddell: btw should we put calligra into kde-sc-build-status?20:52
yofelRiddell: did you have time to look at the splash stuff?20:52
Riddellbulldog98: well it's not kde-sc so it doesn't really belong there20:53
Riddellyofel: no I'm afraid not20:53
yofelI could upload kubuntu-default-settings, but not plymouth for the text theme, so better someone does both20:53
bulldog98Riddell: maybe we need an overall status script called eg status calligra gives you calligras status20:53
Riddellbulldog98: good idea20:56
Riddellbut there are alsoi global ubuntu ones20:56
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bulldog98we need to upload kubuntu-dev-tools as soon as the archive is open for 12.1021:02
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Riddellbulldog98: if it needs it we can just upload it21:05
Riddellwhat's the pressing need?21:05
bulldog98Riddell: it’s only cause the version in the archive is totaly outdated21:06
RiddellI don't know if it's useful in the archive, I just get it out of bzr21:07
yofelas we constantly change things in there anyway, rather make a ppa and a recipe for it21:07
Riddellaye21:07
yofelbulldog98: want to reuse your recipe or should I make a new one?21:14
ScottKRiddell: I'd appreciate it if you're review strigi when it hits the queue.21:14
bulldog98yofel: just reuse it21:14
yofelyou'll have to do that, but please make a new archive for it21:15
CIA-42[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 135 * (bin/buildstatus zsh_completion/_buildstatus debian/changelog) [ Jonathan Kolberg ] Added buildstatus to show the buildstatus of a package21:20
bulldog98yofel: where should I put that archive?21:20
yofelunder your account I guess21:21
CIA-42[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 136 * debian/copyright update copyright21:22
bulldog98here it is21:25
bulldog98ppa:bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools21:25
CIA-42[lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 137 * debian/copyright Updated copyright21:28
yofelbulldog98: intentionally left it to build on request?21:30
bulldog98yofel: no I’ll change that21:31
yofelthanks, now I won't need to remember to update that all the time :D21:31
* bulldog98 only hopes he won’t be flooded with buildfailure mails21:32
Riddelllaunchpad would never do a thing like that21:33
* bulldog98 thought about putting lp onto the spamer list :)21:33
BarkingFishsorry to be a pain, anyone here good with a kernel module not functioning against detected hardware please?21:34
BarkingFishGot a user in #kubuntu, he has bluetooth module loaded, bluetooth built in to his shared BT/WLAN interface, but no bluetooth, and bluedevil is not picking his device up - it's listed in lsusb however21:35
bulldog98yofel: btw we should add a new changelog entry as soon 12.04 is released21:35
yofelwe only do that when we upload - usually21:35
Riddelladd an UNRELEASED one if you wish21:37
RiddellBarkingFish: I fear not21:38
* bulldog98 needs to go to bed. Gn8 to all21:38
ScottKRiddell: The symbol was on amd64 as well.  Do we care enough to upload again: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101373539/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.strigi_0.7.7-1.1ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz21:38
yofelgn821:38
BarkingFishRiddell, that's a pain. The guy says that bluedevil isn't finding anything bluetooth, and his mouse is BT based. Without his internal bluetooth working, it's gonna mess things up a bit. I don't understand fully why it's not functioning though21:39
BarkingFishThe interface is supported software, I know because I use it on my laptop - exactly the same hardware, same USB ident, etc21:40
BarkingFish*supported hardware21:40
RiddellI've never really used bluetooth21:41
BarkingFish:(21:41
BarkingFishI can't understand why mine worked on 11.10, his doesn't.21:41
BarkingFishWe both have the same stuff installed, so it's confusing the hell out of me :P21:41
Mamarokjust a reminder: plasma-desktop still doesn't start for me, what other configuration files than those in $HOME/.kde/share/config/ could be involved?21:43
MamarokI already erased those, now what else could I check?21:44
* ScottK says what the heck and fixes.21:44
RiddellMamarok: does it run for a new user?21:45
Mamaroklet me check...21:45
markeyRiddell: I'm supposed to tell you from Mamarok that "It doesn't work"21:55
Riddellhum, something not good there then21:56
Riddellis kubuntu-desktop all installed?21:56
MamarokRiddell: I'm back here, sorry, my keyboard and mouse didn't respond anymore21:58
MamarokI am sure everything is installed, unless there are hidden packages I don't know of21:58
RiddellMamarok: what happens when you start plasma-desktop on the command line?21:59
MamarokRiddell: moment, I will see what output I get22:00
Mamarokhttp://paste.kde.org/45585222:02
MamarokRiddell: ^22:02
RiddellMamarok: does it run?22:03
Mamarokyes22:03
RiddellMamarok: sorry I have exhaustion I need to sleep22:04
MamarokI can start it with Krunner or from the desktop, it just doesn't start when I launch KDE22:04
Mamarokno problem22:04
RiddellMamarok: I suspect this isn't kubuntu specific22:04
Riddellyou can try asking in a kde or plasma channel22:04
MamarokOK, will try22:05
BarkingFishOne thought, is plasma desktop listed in your autostart menu in KDE system settings, mamarok?22:05
Mamarokwhy would that need to be listed there?22:06
BarkingFishI have plasma desktop workspace listed in there, ticked and enabled to run on startup. I merely wanted to check you had the same.22:06
MamarokI can't remember having seen that there ever before22:07
Mamarokit is the KDE desktop after all, that shouldn't be necessary22:07
BarkingFishit's always been there for me, I never put it there :)22:07
MamarokI just checked the other laptop, it is not there and plasma-desktop starts without problems22:09
BarkingFishhm.  This is what I have on my desktop - http://imgur.com/kaXK922:10
BarkingFishI don't know why it's there if it doesn't need to be / isn't meant to be 22:10
BarkingFishbut I was just checking anyhow, Mamarok - sorry to have bothered you.  22:11
Mamarokanyway, sleep time for me as well22:11
MamarokBarkingFish: no problem, that was not bothering22:11
BarkingFishJust a thought though, just try adding it to that list, and see if it works.  I know it's not perfect, but it may help :D22:12
BarkingFishHave a good night, Mamarok 22:12
Mamarokgood night everyone :)22:12
BarkingFisha break is a break until you can workaround it, then it becomes a problem you might be able to fix :D22:12
BarkingFishGood night22:12
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