[00:01] <Aeriel> aha!
[00:02] <Aeriel> mongo, i can connect to localhost
[00:02] <Aeriel> and it recognizes an ecdsa key
[00:02] <Aeriel> probably it is something with my arch box indeed.
[00:02] <Aeriel> thank you so very much, i was on this for days :)
[00:04] <mongo> Aeriel: I would just unintall the ssh server/client and remove /etc/ssh then reinstall
[00:04] <mongo> clients will see complaints about keys changing but it will most likely fix your issue
[00:05] <Aeriel> ok, thanks, tomorrow i'll step by to tell if it worked or not, now i must go to bed
[00:05] <Aeriel> its too late
[00:06] <Aeriel> but its the easiest thing to do
[00:06] <BarkingFish> see ya guys, I gotta go.  cat me > /dev/bed
[00:06] <BarkingFish> night all
[00:06] <Aeriel> thanks, see you tomorrow
[00:09] <twoverpi> go 12.04 go
[00:11] <jlb181> JoeyA, open Ubuntu Software Center,  EDIT> Software source
[00:12] <JoeyA> jlb181: Ah, thanks.  I'm not used to the menu bar being up there...
[00:13] <jlb181> Still getting used to it myself
[00:17] <twoverpi> everyone here got booted to here from there.
[00:18] <astraljava> That's quite... surreal. But I like it.
[00:41] <scar3crow> <java -version> reports I have java correctly installed... yet it doews not work. any ideas?
[00:45] <mikeconcepts> scar3crow, what use of java? browser?
[00:46] <scar3crow> current oracle 7 tarball and firefox
[00:46] <scar3crow> help muchly appreciated
[00:47] <scar3crow> as I do NOT wish to re-install post-release
[00:51] <mikeconcepts> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jdk.html
[00:52] <mikeconcepts> scar3crow, ^^
[00:52] <scar3crow> looking mikeconcepts, ty
[00:53] <scar3crow> but I am sure I have done that
[00:53] <scar3crow> correctly, too
[00:54] <scar3crow> ~$ java -version
[00:54] <scar3crow> java version "1.7.0"
[00:54] <scar3crow> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-b147)
[00:54] <scar3crow> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0-b17, mixed mode)
[00:54] <scar3crow> sorry flood
[00:55] <scar3crow> yet no java in ff
[00:55] <scar3crow> boo me
[00:55] <mikeconcepts> ask in  freenode #java
[00:55] <scar3crow> ok
[01:32] <themooserooster> hello every one
[01:33] <themooserooster> i was wondering if anybody here has had problems upgrading from onieric 11.10?
[01:45] <kvm> thermooserooster... 12.04 is still a "beta" and there will be bugs... I went from 10.10 to 12.04 and am working on the problems from upgrading.
[01:46] <kvm> It's just part of being part of the Ubuntu family...
[01:47] <kvm> The problems will drop when the "release" version comes out later this month.
[01:48] <kvm> I would never want to go back to windoz ...especially the new win8
[01:48] <astraljava> kvm: That's quite courageous talk, usually the wrinkles are ironed out finally during the first month from the release date, as the install base increases dramatically. But yeah, overall, that's the target.
[01:49] <kvm> I go rid of "unity" and went back to gnome interface.
[01:49] <jtrucks> darn. no more postfixadmin package
[01:50] <kvm> Updates will come in due time
[01:50] <jtrucks> i upgraded a new 10.04 install, so I haven't had issues yet
[01:50] <jtrucks> everything I've installed and used has worked great so far.
[01:50] <themooserooster> kvm... yeah i kinda figured there would be issues with the beta
[01:51] <themooserooster> however, i've had some largish ones and was thinking i could open up a bug report or something to do my part to help the release
[01:52] <kvm> didn't like the "new" unity desktop... I have had some "crashes" but I expected that.. Pretty stable for now...
[01:53] <themooserooster> unfortunately i think unity is insta-crashing for me.
[01:53] <kvm> Bug reports should open up by themselves...I've sent at least a half dozen...
[01:53] <kvm> I have had much less problems with gnome interface on 12.04
[01:54] <bjsnider> gnome-shell?
[01:54] <kvm> Now if I can only find everything I used to have running :-)
[01:54] <kvm> Yep Gnome-shell
[01:55] <themooserooster> thats interesting about the bug reports. i think my problems are so deep theyve prevented bug report dialogs from coming up. i havent even been able to get mouse input to work :(
[01:57] <kvm> I wanted my system tools back (administration and preferences)
[01:57] <tdmackey>  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/libreoffice-core shipped 3 hours ago, but it doesn't look like libreoffice-common was also built for 3.5.2 and since libreoffice fails to install I can seemingly not install ubuntu desktop.
[01:58] <themooserooster> unity comes up with an error message immediately and then only half works. no icons, no desktop, no mouse/trackpad
[01:58] <themooserooster> i can use my keyboard to look up applications by name, but thats about it
[01:59] <kvm> Sounds like it's time for a "clean" install...I didn't like the type in "window" function either
[02:00] <themooserooster> yup
[02:00] <themooserooster> i'll just roll back to onieric for now
[02:00] <kvm> I learned from windoz that you need to back up everything "just in case"..didn't need to as of yet
[02:01] <themooserooster> darn. i was really hoping to use the hud
[02:01] <themooserooster> oh well.
[02:01] <kvm> Did you install 12.04 side by side with 10.04? That was offered during install?
[02:02] <themooserooster> nope. i upgraded from 11.10
[02:03] <themooserooster> in my muli-boot debian startup dialog i can select older versions of linux, but they look as wrecked as 12.04 for me
[02:03] <themooserooster> i had vista/onieric dual boot setup
[02:04] <kvm> I have a laptop I can dual boot into ....so my desktop was not critical. I used the "try me" function of 12.04 to get back into PP after I messed up installing gnome-shell
[02:06] <themooserooster> this five year old laptop is all ive got. it was a beast back in the day (I was a computer animation student) so its still decent now
[02:06] <kvm> I'm in the later stages of learning Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian linux so I'm not as fearful as I was two years ago...
[02:06] <themooserooster> ah, i see. yeah i'm a recent convert
[02:07] <themooserooster> it was videos of the hud that got me interested. been using 11.10 for about 2 months now
[02:07] <themooserooster> so much nicer than vista
[02:07] <kvm> My laptop is a toshiba m105-s3041 and it took nicely to linux
[02:08] <themooserooster> nice.never knew a toshiba to perform badly.
[02:09] <kvm> I just removed viruses and malware from a friends windows vista machine...used linux to get at his passwords and clean up some boot files on windowz
[02:09] <kvm> Glad to get back to linux...
[02:09] <themooserooster> i'm on a sager/clevo np5700
[02:10] <themooserooster> yeah. im a graphic designer so photoshop has had me stcuk to windows
[02:10] <kvm> worse come to worse burn a 11.10 bootable (ISO) to get you by...
[02:11] <themooserooster> wine still has some miles to go to perfect photoshop
[02:11] <themooserooster> yeah, ive got mine on hand
[02:11] <themooserooster> might do that tonight before bed
[02:11] <themooserooster> just wipe the linux partition and start again
[02:12] <astraljava> tdmackey: The source package for libreoffice was accepted 10 hours ago, so I think it's quite impossible to say when the binary packages land in the archives. Be patient. :)
[02:12] <themooserooster> think i had a grand total of 3 regularly apps in ubuntu installed
[02:12] <kvm> My daughter has the same problem needs windows but is running ver7 which is MUCH better than the bloated "vista"
[02:13] <themooserooster> yeah. i just got tired of my HD churning for no good reason and running hot with vista
[02:13] <themooserooster> my machine is so much quieter with ubuntu
[02:14] <themooserooster> when i fisrt installed it i had been hoping wine would come through for me with creative suite so i could cut the cord
[02:14] <themooserooster> but alas. regressions in wine happened
[02:14] <kvm> go into explorer and tell it not to run fastfind ...your hd will settle down. I did that on my dual boot laptop
[02:15] <themooserooster> ok. thanks
[02:16] <themooserooster> where is teh fast find option again?
[02:16] <kvm> rebooting my laptop to find "exact" area to help you
[02:16] <themooserooster> wow, thank you
[02:18] <smokinjoe77> i was wanting to know if wna3100 network adapter is supported out of the box on 12.1?
[02:18] <kvm> you know you can run a virtual windows machine under linux (virtualbox)
[02:18] <smokinjoe77> VM linux is fun, but not as much fun as full out :)
[02:19] <kvm> In windows ...right click on "start" and select Explorer...
[02:19] <themooserooster> mhmm
[02:19] <kvm> Go to C:\ and click on it...
[02:20] <themooserooster> k
[02:20] <kvm> Right click on c:\ and select "properties"
[02:20] <tdmackey> astraljava: well, ideally it wouldn't superseed the older version until the all the dependencies are in place
[02:20] <tdmackey> as it breaks the installation
[02:21] <themooserooster> ok
[02:21] <smokinjoe77> what wireless adapter is supported out of the box for 12.1? Or where can I find the long list of supported adapters.
[02:21] <tdmackey> it's not like I'm aggressively trying to upgrade to 3.5.2; it's just what ubuntu-desktop thinks it should be installing but can't
[02:21] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: Do you mean 12.04 (precise) or the next one, 12.10 (whatever starting with Q)? Either way, please file a bug about it, if it still isn't working out-of-the-box. Sometimes they are just not included by whatever reason.
[02:22] <kvm> At the bottom of that window you should see [ ] Allow Indexing Service... Remove the check mark and reboot the machine
[02:22] <kvm> no more endless hd searching... :-)
[02:22] <astraljava> tdmackey: Yeah I do understand. It's the devel cycle, things are out-of-sync occasionally. The buildd's are churning away non-stop. :)
[02:22] <themooserooster> thanks
[02:22] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: This is why I am asking about it. Wasn't sure if anyone was using a wna3100. And yes 12.04 or 12.10. I am wanting to get back into ubuntu again But it needs to be wireless working out of the box.
[02:23] <tdmackey> yeah, I understand. thanks. :)
[02:23] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: Well a simple google search revealed questions about it on askubuntu.com, for instance. Sometimes the community just has to help the devs a bit. :)
[02:24] <themooserooster> such a simple fix. and how often do i use the search feature? never... thanks
[02:24] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: I was looking on google, And I did find a few things. But for the question as our of the box , That I did not find a answer but needing to tweak it a bit. ANd TBH I am trying to refind the list of supported hardware, So I can just go grab one.
[02:25] <kvm> I really won't slow you down very much ...like 2~3 seconds with it off.
[02:25] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: Ok. Sorry, I can't provide answer to that, but there should be a hardware testing page somewhere, hold on for a moment, please.
[02:26] <kvm> Back to linux on the toshiba...windows can't find my internal wireless board...
[02:26] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: I'll be honest I am still a linux wet noobie...  Well when it comes to tweaking the nic card anyways... I seem to do more harm then good only in that area....
[02:26] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: Take a look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/  It should point you forwards. :)
[02:27] <kvm> don't give up but dual boot for now till you figure it all out...
[02:27] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: It sometimes feels more like sorcery than engineering, I hear ya. :) But don't give up, resilience is the key. :)
[02:28] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: I keep failing at it and going wired, but this time around wife would get mad if i put a 50ft cable across the floor LOL...
[02:29] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: Do you know if the nvidia 500 series bug is in linux too atm...The PSOD bug.... or is it just a windows thing. "that you have heard of"
[02:29] <astraljava> Heheh. Yeah, some people just don't see them as fitting with the _rest of the decoration_. :D
[02:29] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: I haven't heard anything about it, this side of the fence or the other.
[02:29] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: That site was the one i was looking for, I was noob googling wrong.. ugh LOL
[02:30] <kvm> I have a dual monitor nvida card an it runs just fine here on 12.04
[02:31] <astraljava> kvm: 500 series?
[02:32] <kvm> gotta look
[02:33] <themooserooster> kvm... oh im def sticking with linux. ubuntu's been great barring todays experience
[02:33] <smokinjoe77> kvm: I just picked up a MSI 550ti Cyclone, And when browsing the web I sometimes get a purple/pink screen of death. BUT never when gaming. and it's annoying.... Poked around about it, and it's alot of people in the 500 series that has this issue.
[02:34] <smokinjoe77> themooserooster:  Ubuntu has always been my top pick. And it would take alot for me to look away...
[02:35] <smokinjoe77> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127573 This is the card I just got.
[02:36] <kvm> I have been running 12.04 for under a week and jumping from unity  to gnome I can't fine the hardware just yet...
[02:36] <astraljava> kvm: Easiest is to run `sudo lshw -c display` in terminal.
[02:37] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: Is moonlight working better in 12.04? I know moonlight was supposed ot release 4.0, But before I needed to switch back I didn't get it working.
[02:37] <Belial`> i thought they pretty much scraped moonlight?
[02:38] <astraljava> smokinjoe77: I wouldn't know. I always close the site if it requires such.
[02:38] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: lol..
[02:38] <astraljava> From what I heard, it didn't keep up with the silverlight versions.
[02:38] <smokinjoe77> Belial`:  It is there, with very little support...
[02:38] <kvm> GeForce 9400 GT   ...Tnx Astraljava
[02:40] <smokinjoe77> astraljava: I am waiting for comcast to finally go HTML5 so I can make all my machines linux.. I can not watch most the movies online casue they require Silverlight. But they are starting to change it. And from what I heard MS is scrapping silverlight as it is for html5
[02:42] <bjsnider> ever hear of moonlight?
[02:46] <kvm> moonlight is linux equiv of MS' Silverlight
[02:57] <mrp> 3
[03:02] <RedBunny> if i do the updates is that like upgrading from beta 1 to beta 2 ,....?
[03:04] <RedBunny> & why does Skype keep feeezing my system ,...?
[03:04] <RedBunny> if i compile from source would that hellp ...?
[03:07] <astraljava> RedBunny: The milestones really only apply to the images. If you keep on doing updates, it's just keeping your system up-to-date always.
[03:07] <jtrucks> if I just need to run java on cli, is the openjdk-7-jdk package best?
[03:08] <astraljava> RedBunny: Most likely won't, I doubt there's anything wrong with the package. Probably just a bad luck situation with the hardware.
[03:08] <RedBunny> i guess i havent really used linux since slack 9 in '03 so that means it is the equivilant of the image rightr ,...?
[03:09] <astraljava> jtrucks: Could be, but it'd be more beneficial to the whole ecosystem if you tried to run with the openjdk packages. You never know if you hit a bug, and have a chance to report it.
[03:09] <RedBunny> aye for the skype right cause if i use it for like an hour my sytem had to be rebooted 4 times today and when its just open its fine
[03:09] <astraljava> RedBunny: Image meaning the one that you burn to a cd, usb stick etc.
[03:09] <RedBunny> aye
[03:10] <jtrucks> astraljava: what do you mean? that's what I just said I was looking to install...
[03:10] <astraljava> RedBunny: What happens that causes you to reboot?
[03:10] <astraljava> jtrucks: Sorry, my eyes seem to betray me at this late hour.
[03:10] <jtrucks> :P
[03:11] <RedBunny> i just know whenever i use skypre like 20 minutes on my sytem freezes and when its just like on standby nothing happens
[03:11] <astraljava> I could have sworn I saw oracle somewhere there. :)
[03:11] <jtrucks> this has no head or X so I just need to install whatever package has java runtime stuff.
[03:11] <jtrucks> oh god no.
[03:11] <RedBunny> its the onlyy difference from doing nothign
[03:11] <jtrucks> openjdk please :P
[03:11] <astraljava> jtrucks: Yeah, that should be the best option, then.
[03:11] <jtrucks> cool, thanks.
[03:11] <jtrucks> oh god.
[03:11] <RedBunny> yeah oracle got my adobe working i was hell on wine for weeks
[03:11] <jtrucks> the prereqs
[03:11]  * jtrucks cries
[03:12] <astraljava> RedBunny: The desktop freezes? Next time it happens, try to hit Ctrl + Alt + F1 and see whether you have a prompt there, or if you have another machine, try to ssh in. Could have more information about the issue from there.
[03:13] <ludlow> anyone know how to install java on 12.04?
[03:13] <ludlow> !java
[03:13] <RedBunny> aye, how would i ssh ,... ive only done that from standard programson on my iphone
[03:13] <RedBunny> cntrl alt f1 got that though
[03:14] <ludlow> knock knock anyone home??!
[03:14] <astraljava> RedBunny: You have to install openssh-server first, but on the machine where you're trying to connect from, openssh-client is enough.
[03:14] <astraljava> ludlow: What is it that you need? Isn't the factoid info enough?
[03:15] <RedBunny> what am i trying to connect too ,...
[03:15] <RedBunny> oh you said if you haveanother machine ssh
[03:15] <RedBunny> i dont have another machine
[03:16] <ludlow> astraljava, where is the factoid?
[03:17] <jtrucks> ludlow: ubottu responded to your !java
[03:17] <astraljava> ludlow: You brought it out yourself with the !java line.
[03:17] <ludlow> astraljava, thanks.  I'm checking it out now
[03:18] <jtrucks> i will soon see how well this compiles android.
[03:23] <JoeyA> I was fiddling with Super shortcuts, and accidentally turned on zoom.  How do I turn it off?
[03:27] <JoeyA> Oh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/953278
[03:29] <alesan> hi; when I ssh *to* my machine, many times there is a delay of several seconds; it may try to do a reverse lookup of the host that is connecting... how can I disable that?
[03:32] <bodhizazen> alesan, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config , add in 'UseDNS no'
[03:33] <bodhizazen> then re-start the ssh server
[03:33] <bodhizazen> if that is not the problem, pastebinit ssh -vvv user@server
[03:35] <alesan> yeah much faster now
[03:36] <frybye> Hi - after latest 12.04 Update my "konversation" was gone and won't let itself be installed again from the software center - and ideas?
[03:36] <alesan> how annoying, why that option is enabled by default?
[03:36] <alesan> thanks bodhizazen
[03:36] <frybye> am using chatzilla here as a work-around...
[03:37] <astraljava> frybye: Don't know about software center, but it's still there, use synaptic or apt-get or whatever else.
[03:40] <bodhizazen> alesan, probably a security feature =)
[03:41] <frybye> astraljava: synaptic saysa that it has unrsolvable dependancies konversation - depends on kdepim-runtime but it is not going to be installed.. what now?
[03:41] <alesan> bodhizazen, I disagree, but fine, I am only a little concerned that that setting is not "user friendly"
[03:42] <frybye> looks like since my last update 12.04 wont have anything from kde or...?
[03:42] <scar3crow> ok java working
[03:42] <bodhizazen> alesan, so file a bug report ;p
[03:43] <scar3crow> hehe, I just may
[03:43] <scar3crow> oops
[03:43] <scar3crow> nvm
[03:43] <astraljava> frybye: That's strange, what mirror are you on? I'll try on mine, hold on.
[03:43] <frybye> astraljava: this has only been since an update 5 mins ago or so...
[03:44] <frybye> astraljava: i am using a German lang. system here...
[03:45] <astraljava> frybye: Yes, there's a version mismatch for akonadi-backend-mysql.
[03:45] <astraljava> frybye: akonadi-server depends on version 1.7.2-0ubuntu1, but the candidate is 1.7.0-0ubuntu3.
[03:45] <frybye> eh - anything I can do about that?
[03:46] <astraljava> frybye: Not really, unless you're a core dev. That package sits in main. :)
[03:46] <astraljava> Let me poke around a bit.
[03:47] <frybye> astraljava: ok - no way I am pretty clueless to be honest... well at least chatzilla works.. tg for that...
[03:49] <astraljava> frybye: Seems it's in progress, was accepted just less than 7 hours ago. Try again in a while, if still not working, then file a bug about it.
[03:50] <frybye> astraljava: ok - thanks...
[03:50] <astraljava> frybye: I don't know how often they sync the german mirror, so could be anything from 6 hours to couple days (the finnish mirror is often seriously lagging behind, so I have to resort to using the official archives).
[03:57] <Wolfsherz> hi, can you explain why I can not choose to update all packages? some are greyed out, but still in the list of available updates.
[04:21] <astraljava> Wolfsherz: Some packages just haven't landed in the archives, so there are dependency issues. They'll get sorted in due time, rest assured.
[04:21] <Wolfsherz> astraljava, thank you
[04:22] <stuntman_dan> does anyone know of any ways to increase battery life?
[04:22] <jtrucks> on what?
[04:22] <jtrucks> laptop?
[04:22] <stuntman_dan> yeah
[04:23] <stuntman_dan> when I first got this running windows 7, I was getting 5-6 hours
[04:23] <jtrucks> turn down screen, spin down disks, low poer...
[04:23] <stuntman_dan> and now with ubuntu I get anywhere from 1-3, depending on whether I use the ati or intel graphics
[04:32] <javierf_> Hi. I just upgraded to 12.04 beta2 and it's a big mess. I couldnt enter any partition as boot was broken, but I fixed it with a usb live ubuntu. But now, I access ubuntu but it's not working well. I get nothing in desktop (no panel, no launcher). How can I fix whatever problems I may have had during upgrading?
[04:32] <bitplane> javierf_: do you get files on your desktop?
[04:32] <javierf_> yes
[04:32] <javierf_> and I access applications using Synapse
[04:33] <bitplane> I'm guessing this is because your ubuntu unity plugin is disabled in ccsm
[04:33] <bitplane> it happened to me
[04:33] <bitplane> so sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:33] <bitplane> then find your ccsm binary and run it
[04:33] <javierf_> ah, that's possible, because I was using an alternative plugin to have the icons in the down part and I dissabled unity pluggin
[04:34] <bitplane> find the ubuntu unity plugin, disable and re-enable it (notice there's no checkbox anymore in the plugin list, you have to click on it)
[04:35] <javierf_> bitplane, oh, that's great. I did what you said and everything came back :)
[04:35] <bitplane> :)
[04:35] <stuntman_dan> does ccsm distinguish between minimize and maximize animations? or are they both the same setting
[04:37] <bitplane> stuntman_dan: I think they're the same. might be wrong though
[04:37] <stuntman_dan> bitplane, it just seems that my minimize animation has a much smaller duration, so short that you can't even see it
[04:48] <bitplane> stuntman_dan: do you mean restore and minimize? looks like restore is the same as open
[04:53] <javierf_> Font colours have changed on the new version to white and they are impossible to read because I'm using a light theme. Is it possible to change just this?
[05:17] <scar3crow> will there be wubi for 12.04?
[05:23] <malv> lightdm is taking forever to load and to login
[05:24] <Wolfsherz> malv, true
[05:25] <malv> and for some reason twinview now goes into xinerama mode with xfce
[05:25] <scientes> i use lightdm for multiseat and it loads fine
[05:26] <malv> not sure why it's spreading across windows.
[05:26] <astraljava> tdmackey: libreoffice is upgradable now on the official archive at least.
[05:27] <astraljava> ...except that -core errored out...
[05:29] <tdmackey> heh
[05:30] <malv> why do they call these alphas betas?
[05:30] <scientes> malv, is all you do is troll?
[05:30] <bazhang> malv, its for testing and bug fixing, not complaining
[05:31] <bazhang> scientes, not necessary
[05:31] <bazhang> malv, if something is not working, then file a bug
[05:31] <bazhang> !bugs | malv
[05:32] <scientes> bazhang, he got kicked from #ubuntu yesterday for whining
[05:32] <malv> been using ubuntu for more than 5 years now
[05:32] <bazhang> scientes, no need for name calling
[05:32] <malv> and every release they push me more and more away
[05:32] <scientes> malv, then use debian
[05:32] <bazhang> malv, then you know how these things operate.
[05:34] <bazhang> malv, if you find something not working, file a bug so it is fixed. thats how it works
[05:34] <malv> I don't think I've ever had a submitted bug addressed
[05:36] <astraljava> tdmackey: Was just a prob on my system, should work fine.
[05:38] <scientes> malv, well then your bugs wont be fixed
[05:39]  * scientes has had great success with bugs being fixed
[05:43] <malv> lightdm related problem automatically fixed itself after I cleared out all my configuration settings from my home directory and recopied over the /etc/skel files
[05:43] <malv> is lightdm getting stuck because it is reading something in the user directory?
[06:06] <carnau> How can I collect information about my system to fill a bug report? I have a weird issue, my logitech m705 mouse doesn't work if i'm using an external monitor(it's a laptop). My razer one works well.
[06:07] <bazhang> lspci lsusb sudo lshw are all good ways to find out
[06:09] <carnau> bazhang, it works when i don't use the external monitor, so i think the hw is ok
[06:09] <carnau> well, i bought it a week ago.
[06:11] <carnau> i'll report it with the output of these commands, thanks!
[06:14] <carnau> i think this line in syslog is related to: mtp-probe: bus: 5, device: 2 was not an MTP device
[06:15] <bazhang> could be
[06:36] <GirlyGirl> Kubuntu Precise: My system is unable to hibernate and a swap partition is present. When I hibernate, all it does is lock screen.
[06:55] <astraljava> policykit-desktop-privileges (0.8) precise; urgency=low; * Disable hibernation by default. (LP: #812394)
[07:04] <xus> I did an apt-get upgrade / update overnight and saw this in the logs
[07:04] <xus> Setting up grub-pc (1.99-21ubuntu2) ...
[07:04] <xus> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it.  This software may cause boot or other problems in future.  Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.
[07:04] <xus> Installation finished. No error reported.
[07:05] <xus> bit lol since grub needs to be in the boot sector ? :D
[07:24] <carnau> I see that now in /etc/resolv.conf, dnsmasq is used. How can I know wich server is asking dnsmask, for example, if I want to resolve www.freenode.net? It gets the nameservers recived by dhcp?
[08:42] <Petrio> Updatewarung! After the update Boinc break through from Wu's calculation error.
[10:36] <MinusSeven> haven't seen anyone talking in here
[10:36] <MinusSeven> everyone can see what I'm saying?
[10:38] <ironhalik> Shh guys, hes going to figure it out!
[10:44] <pawdro> hello, is it possible to install postgresql (v. 8.4) in Pangolin? I suppose I have to do it by manually downloading packages from oneric ?
[11:20] <sten-retrogamer> I have a problem with external monitor via VGA on my Eee Netbook.
[11:22] <sten-retrogamer> My TV pops up just fine (although Ubuntu tries to convince me it's 72" wide), but whenever I select any 16:9 resolution, I'm stuck with Clockwise and Counter-clockwise orientations only
[11:22] <sten-retrogamer> If I select a 4:3 resolution, I have all the options
[11:23] <sten-retrogamer> I have tried the "xrandr -o normal" but that only turns the monitor off
[11:24] <sten-retrogamer> Any ideas?
[11:41] <frybye> cool - Konversation is working again! Jeahhh
[12:15] <xerxes> Hi
[12:15] <xerxes> im having some trouble with Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2
[12:15] <xerxes> i have installed it on my laptop and installed Gnome Fallback session from the repo
[12:15] <xerxes> since i dont like Gnome 3 or Unity.
[12:15] <xerxes> The problem is that alt + tab is not working
[12:15] <xerxes> when i want to switch between for example gnome terminal and Firefox..
[12:16] <xerxes> does anyone know how to fix that issue
[12:16] <xerxes> alt + tab switch window application
[12:20] <GirlyGirl> xerxes: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:20] <GirlyGirl> !details | xerxes
[12:20] <arand> GirlyGirl: Ubuntu, obviously, since it's about gnome?
[12:21] <Pici> Er, I think there were quite a few details there.
[12:22] <GirlyGirl> arand: Really sorry, I though I was on #kubuntu, (just changed colour scheme) so I did not recognise active tab in konversation)
[12:24] <GirlyGirl> Must have missed some details when I disconnected and reconnected then .. all I saw was "does anyone know how to fix that issue" "alt + tab switch window application"
[12:26] <natman> anyone been using Telepathy in (K)Ubuntu 1204? How does it compare to Kopete?
[12:31] <GirlyGirl> natman: I think they decided to go back to kopete
[12:31] <GirlyGirl> natman: Its obviously better but lacks a lot of features .. just bare chat at the moment.
[12:32] <natman> GirlyGirl:  oo wow, had seen a youtube review with both Kopete and Telepathy, was not sure. Its a pity, Kopete is starting to show its age and lack of care.
[12:33] <GirlyGirl> natman: kde-Telepathy will come eventually but its not ready yet.
[12:34] <natman> GirlyGirl: Have you been using Kubuntu 12.04? hows it looking, im on Kubuntu 11.10 atm
[12:34] <ScG^Dedicated> hello, can anyone verify a possible bug for me? When you log out/switch user and you want to shutdown nothing happens
[12:35] <GirlyGirl> natman: Yes I have 12.04 .. its fine if you have 11.10 with kde 4.8 it should be similar
[12:35] <natman> GirlyGirl:  Cool, still on kde 4.7 here, looking foward to the change
[12:48] <Debru> Hello is it good idea to install 12.04 now...?
[12:48] <scriptwarlock> Debru, if you are ready for some bugs yes
[12:49] <ScG^Dedicated> hello, can anyone verify a possible bug for me? When you log out/switch user and you want to shutdown nothing happens
[12:50] <Debru> scriptwarlock, If i intall now stable relase... I dont dont need complete reinstall of 12.04 after update..? If not so what is difference if i take now 11.10 or 10.04? if both are LTS after i install 12.04...?
[12:52] <scriptwarlock> Debru, yes it's a beta release
[12:52] <Teduardo> Is anyone aware whether 12.04 will support ivy bridge which should be released later this month?
[12:52] <Teduardo> There were some big problems with Sandy bridge on Linux when it came out
[12:52] <scriptwarlock> Debru, a lot of bug fixes and features are added to 12.04
[12:54] <Debru> scriptwarlock, so I cant understand what i need install now, just to have lastest os with good support what i can use daily..?
[12:54] <Debru> scriptwarlock, and what i dont have to reinstall laiter
[12:56] <snadge> yo wassup in da house
[12:56] <scriptwarlock> Debru, you dont need a fresh install after you install now. you only need to update/upgrade
[12:57] <Debru> scriptwarlock, ok, so what i shold take now 10.04, 11.10 or 12.04 beta?
[12:58] <taxman> 10.04
[12:58] <scriptwarlock> try first 12.04 on a vmware Debru
[12:59] <taxman> levono is the sponsor of 10.10
[12:59] <taxman> did you find any bug in 12.04 beta?
[13:03] <GirlyGirl> When is the RC release date?
[13:04] <scriptwarlock> GirlyGirl, sometime on april 26?
[13:04] <scriptwarlock> not sure though
[13:05] <taxman> i can't wait
[13:05]  * taxman gets into the time machine
[13:06] <natman> 19/4 is RC and 26 is Final GirlyGirl
[13:07] <taxman> great
[13:07] <LyzardKing> I need help with openjdk-7 and kubutnu 12.04
[13:07] <LyzardKing> It just wont install giving an error for unmet dependencies
[13:08] <taxman> it's time to buy another fast pendrive for 12.04
[13:08] <LyzardKing> has anybody managed to install openjdk-7
[13:08] <LyzardKing> ?
[13:10] <yofel> LyzardKing: try to refresh your cache again or try a different mirror, there was an update for it today
[13:10] <yofel> it's installed fine here
[13:11] <LyzardKing> I just installed kubuntu 12 today...but I'll try tranks
[13:12] <yofel> LyzardKing: the update was uploaded a few hours ago, it can take a while for it to reach all mirrors
[13:12] <yofel> during that time the dependencies might be inconsistent
[13:12] <LyzardKing> oh ok...I tried changing the server from the general one to the server for the US
[13:17] <LyzardKing> yofel: nothing changed even changing the server or refreshing it...
[13:17] <yofel> LyzardKing: what does apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre say?
[13:17] <yofel> !paste | LyzardKing
[13:20] <LyzardKing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/924824/
[13:20] <frybye> can it be that since todays update my nvidia graphics are somehow better?
[13:21] <LyzardKing> !paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/924824/
[13:25] <LyzardKing> basically it sais that openjdk-7 is not installed
[13:30] <yofel> LyzardKing: how were you trying to install it again? as that looks fine
[13:31] <LyzardKing> like before from the terminal...but with the same output
[13:31] <yofel> and what happens if you install the jre?
[13:32] <LyzardKing> the jdk depends from the jre. the jre depends from -jre-headless and -jre-lib
[13:32] <LyzardKing> and those wont install even manually
[13:32] <LyzardKing> (via .debs from ubuntuupdate)
[13:33] <LyzardKing> the problem is that jre-headless depends from jre-lib and jre-lib depends from jre-headless...soit's not going anywhere
[13:41] <LyzardKing> ok that's it...I'm going back to kubuntu 11.10 till they figure out this mess
[13:44] <confrey> hi everybody
[13:46] <yofel> LyzardKing: hm, here it looks fine, can you try to switch to the main server, refresh your cache and try then?
[13:47] <yofel> if it still doesn't work then something's not right
[13:47] <LyzardKing> I'll try..
[13:49] <GirlyGirl> Does 12.04 final ship with kde 4.8.2 or 4.8.1? 4.8.2 is in the archive but normally the .04 releases in the past have released a version outdated by a release.
[13:49] <melter> anyone know why on precise server beta 2, when i run "apt-get remove g++", it fails with the error "g++ is already the newest version"?
[13:49] <yofel> GirlyGirl: that's because the freeze was too soon or kde released to late, 12.04 will ship 4.8.2
[13:50] <yofel> it's already in the archive anyway as you said
[13:51] <confrey> I can't save ccsm settings, more exactly, some of them, anybody knowing?
[13:52] <imranh> Hey guys. I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 (already did USB live boot worked great) onto my Windows tablet (Acer W.500) as a dual boot with Windows 8. I can use a keyboard to install it, but I don't know how I could use GRUB with _ONLY_ the touchscreen. Because i dont want to have to plug a keyboard into the tablet to choose between Windows or Ubuntu every time...
[13:52] <LyzardKing> yofel: nothing changed...I could try reinstalling precise once, and if it fails again roll back to 11.10
[13:52] <yofel> LyzardKing: wait
[13:53] <yofel> so jdk won't install because the jre won't install, the jre won't install because of what again?
[13:53] <LyzardKing> jre-headless wont install
[13:53] <yofel> can you try to install that directly please? then apt will tell why
[13:54] <LyzardKing> and jre-headless won't install because jre-lib won't install
[13:54] <yofel> and why won't that install?
[13:54] <LyzardKing> because jre-headless won't install...they look for each other
[13:56] <yofel> LyzardKing: ok, let's make apt a bit more verbose, please patebin the output of: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver install openjdk-7-jdk
[13:58] <LyzardKing> yofel: it just says E: Option Debug::pkgProblemResolver: Configuration item specification must have an =<val>
[13:58] <LyzardKing> is anything missing?
[13:58] <LyzardKing> in the command
[13:58] <yofel> oops
[13:58] <yofel> Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true
[13:58] <yofel> it's been a while since I used that
[13:58] <LyzardKing> ok
[13:59] <LyzardKing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/924858/
[13:59] <colo-work> hi
[14:00] <colo-work> anyone in here who managed to get 12.04 work as an NFS4 client?
[14:00] <bazhang> colo-work, hi
[14:01] <GirlyGirl> yofel: What about caligra, will it replace libreoffice? Current iso's have libreoffice and no Caligra but the release anouncement states differently
[14:02] <yofel> LyzardKing: ok, now I can confirm it too
[14:02] <LyzardKing> you have the same output?
[14:03] <yofel> well, the packages are now kept back on upgrade here
[14:04] <LyzardKing> yes here too...why is that?
[14:04] <yofel> the build for i386 isn't done yet
[14:05] <yofel> and openjdk-7-jre-lib is only build on i386 since it's architecure indepenedent
[14:05] <yofel> should fix itself once the build is done
[14:06] <LyzardKing> ok...so it's just a matter of time then
[14:06] <yofel> GirlyGirl: hm, I forgot about what should be the default, probably libreoffice
[14:06] <yofel> LyzardKing: see here if you're curious https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/7~u3-2.1.1~pre1-1ubuntu1
[14:07] <LyzardKing> ok...thanks again
[14:08] <T81W-Thomas> Hello everyone!
[14:10] <T81W-Thomas> I am running precise on a HP Touchsmart 520 desktop pc. Basically everything works like a charm, except for the touchscreen. I was wondering if anyone could give me pointers.
[14:11] <GirlyGirl> yofel: Calligra would use a lot less space though and could allow space for other useful things on disk
[14:11] <yofel> well, feel free to ask the others in #kubuntu-devel, but I believe libreoffice is still better - even if not better integrated
[14:32] <MCR1> hmm, the video lens does not search the Internet anymore. In Sources just MyVideos is listed. Can anyone confirm this or is there a fix/workaround ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> virtuoso high cpu usage not fixed in kubuntu 12.04/kde 4.8.2 ...still getting 95% cpu from virtuoso -t ...been searching but it seems only drastic stuff like renaming kde is recommended ...not going to do that
[14:45] <xerxes> Hi
[14:45] <xerxes> Im having big problems with alt + tab in Ubuntu 12.04 Beta 2
[14:46] <xerxes> how can i fix this in gnome fallback session ?
[14:51] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: Seems fine here ... maybe you just installed and it has a lot of indexing to do. Disable indexing of large folders like download, dropbox etc
[14:53] <BluesKaj> the indexing should have been finished last week , only minor changes are needed now ..it doen't need to work so hard to catch up
[14:53] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl,^
[15:05] <spaceneedle> I install ubuntu 12.04 on my dell d610 and it is using a pae kernel. what does pae mean?
[15:05] <bazhang> !pae
[15:07] <spaceneedle> Bug: When I log onto gnome classic(with special effects) the unity launcher is present, but NOT when I log onto gnome classic with NO special effects.
[15:12] <brianm> install openjdk on 12.04 beta2 images in ec2 seems to no longer work, freaks out on unmet deps. Intentional?
[15:13] <brianm> apt-get install openjdk-7-jre-headless specifically
[15:17] <BluesKaj> brianm, yeah , yours is the second report today about jdk7on 12.04, the other was dependenciies
[15:17] <brianm> yeah, it is freaking on unet deps
[15:17] <brianm> seems to happen to openjdk-6-jre-headless on 11.10 as well
[15:18] <BluesKaj> dunno if 7 is ready for 12.04 or vice versa
[15:19] <brianm> Pici thanks
[15:19] <brianm> okay openjdk-6-jre-headless seems to install
[15:20] <mikeconcepts> wonder if nm-applet is broken for everyone using wireless or if it related to my hardware D410 Dell notebook
[15:21] <brianm> I take that back
[15:24] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: I've had that problem of high cpu usage and normally after a reboot its ok
[15:25] <Basher101> So I istalled Gnome 3 shell successfully on 12.04, everything works so far, except that the terminal does not start when i hit ctrl+alt+T. All the other key shortcuts work. I even tried to change the keys for the terminal launch, but still nothing.
[15:26] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, I booted this morning and virtuosos went nuts for about 15mins ...thought I'd give it some time to catchup , but it was running at 100% for long periods so I had to kill it
[15:42] <JosephHarrietha> Hello, I just installed 12.04 two days ago and I just noticed that sound doesn't seem to be working. I've never had this happen before so if anyone could assit me in troubleshooting and solving it, it would be greatly appreciated
[15:42] <scar3crow> check this out: http://s1086.photobucket.com/albums/j460/scar3crow_71/Screenshots/?action=view&current=MediaMonkey.png
[15:43] <scar3crow> the new wine is awesome
[15:47] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: Was it working before?
[15:47] <scar3crow> yep ;)
[15:48] <scar3crow> but the translation was slow
[15:48] <scar3crow> and I'm running that in a wubi
[15:48] <scar3crow> :D
[15:49] <GirlyGirl> scar3crow: What's the point?
[15:49] <GirlyGirl> !ot | scar3crow
[15:50] <scar3crow> my bad
[15:50] <JosephHarrietha> I don't know haha
[15:51] <JosephHarrietha> I think it was because I heard a few audio alerts.. but that may have been my developing insanity haha.
[15:53] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: Is the sound card detected by gnome?
[15:54] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: In whatever program gnome uses for a mixer
[15:54] <JosephHarrietha> GirlyGirl, It's probably a pulse audio thing, but I don't know where to start with it. I think it is, it shows up in the sound settings.
[15:54] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: Can you link a screenshot of "alsamixer" in terminal
[15:56] <JosephHarrietha> Here: http://imagebin.org/207597
[15:56] <BluesKaj> JosephHarrietha, do you have pavucontrol installed . it's very helpful in setting up devices/ audio volume and codecs
[15:57] <JosephHarrietha> Nope, I've never ever had an issue with sound. Not even on ArchLinux when I had to install alsa and pulse myself.
[15:57] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: Increase the volume on master in "alsamixer" and try
[15:57] <JosephHarrietha> I was one step ahead of you :P Testing now.
[15:58] <JosephHarrietha> GirlyGirl, Well... I feel stupid.
[15:58] <JosephHarrietha> Solved XD!
[15:58] <GirlyGirl> JosephHarrietha: You're not the only one, which is why I suggested to look in alsamixer
[15:59] <JosephHarrietha> Haha :D. Well, at least I learned something.
[15:59] <JosephHarrietha> Thank you!
[16:01] <lovehappens> can i install macbuntu on my xubuntu 12.04 ?
[16:09] <mikeconcepts> is the wireless part of nm-applet working for anybody in unity? works fine in gnome-shell
[16:16] <barf> Ubuntu 12.04 installed, but the trackpad of the Acer Aspire 7715 does not work :-(
[16:17] <mikeconcepts> about all the wireless connections are greyed out, mine own wireless router is not listed at all
[16:36] <GirlyGirl> barf: Does it show up in lsusb
[16:48] <samba_> I've update the precise now and  the locales are  not well configured
[16:48] <samba_> when I exec perl  I get this: "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings..."
[16:49] <samba_> I've tryed to edit the /etc/default/locale files
[16:49] <samba_> but after a reboot the LC_ALL is unset
[16:49] <samba_> LC_ALL = (unset),
[17:03] <jtrucks> samba_: so set LANG or LC_ALL
[17:03] <jtrucks> that's what I did.
[17:03] <jtrucks> :)
[17:03] <samba_> how did u set LC_ALL ?
[17:05] <jtrucks> I set LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[17:06] <UberDuper> I'm having an issue with kvm on precise where my vms stop passing network traffic sometimes at random and sometimes under high network load.
[17:06] <UberDuper> Anyone seen any bugs reported like this?
[17:15] <trism> UberDuper: only recent bug I see is bug 941059
[17:19] <alexstrand7> Will precise work on dell latitude d531?
[17:21] <alexstrand7> ?
[17:21] <Artemis3> well if you test is and it works, be sure to tell :)
[17:22] <alexstrand7> A known bug is that when you login pc picture freezes, but is that fixed?
[17:23] <alexstrand7> Since 10.10 was released I have been unable to upgrade because my graphics driver are not supported
[17:23] <alexstrand7> It is an ATI Radeon card
[17:24] <alexstrand7> I'm running 10.04.4
[17:24] <Artemis3> i see someone using it with 11.10
[17:24] <Artemis3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880908
[17:24] <alexstrand7> Ok, how?
[17:24] <Artemis3> different issue (wifi :)
[17:25] <Artemis3> unless the same model can come with different video...
[17:25] <alexstrand7> Wifi is working I tried out :-) It is a old school pc, so everything is default cards
[17:26] <alexstrand7> I got this from my school
[17:27] <alexstrand7> I will try 12.04 beside Ubuntu 10.04 and see if it works
[17:27] <Artemis3> sure
[17:27] <Artemis3> what is the problem, well come here and tell when you try
[17:28] <alexstrand7> ok, I will try it out, and if it works, I will login to this chat with 12.04 and tell you :-), but first I have to wait for the download to finish, maybe I can't try it out before tomorrow
[17:28] <alexstrand7> slow internet here
[18:23] <atpa8a> hmm
[18:23] <atpa8a> any update-grub gurus?..\
[18:25] <atpa8a> nm
[18:26] <shane_> This is really important guys I think they are making a big mistake not having anything on the dash home for a new install.  I have installed 12.04 on family friends and work colleges computers and they are now lost when they click the dash home button.
[18:27] <shane_> at least have something that points to apps, or email or something
[18:27] <khamer> I'm missing another .so (libstdc++.so.6), and I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance on how to fish. I already apt-get installed libstdc++6, no dice
[18:27] <shane_> but blank its really bad.
[18:27] <atpa8a> shane_: look at the icons on the bottom of dash
[18:28] <jtaylor> khamer: do you ahve the correct architecture?
[18:28] <shane_> yes I know that but the average user does not
[18:28] <shane_> its not clear
[18:28] <khamer> jtaylor: m, good thought, I'll check
[18:30] <XVampireX> Hallo
[18:30] <XVampireX> What's up you people
[18:31] <XVampireX> I need some help, where do I get hold of libgtk1.2 for my epsxe? :P
[18:31] <jtaylor> :O
[18:31] <jtaylor> you could check if its still downloadable on launchpad
[18:31] <jtaylor> if not debian snapshots will have it somewhere
[18:32] <Myrtti> shane_: it fills out the more you use it, mine isn't empty at all
[18:32] <Myrtti> (as you probably noticed)
[18:33] <XVampireX> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/libgtk1.2-dev
[18:33] <shane_> i know that but a new user wont
[18:33] <shane_> having nothing there to start off is just crazy
[18:34] <shane_> older people will be lost and wont know what the dash is
[18:34] <XVampireX> so I need to compile libgtk1.2? :P
[18:34] <shane_> unless someone tells them
[18:34] <jtaylor> XVampireX: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gtk+1.2/1.2.10-18.1build2
[18:34] <jtaylor> but you will very likely have to build it from source
[18:34] <jtaylor> there are probably dozens of incompatible abi/api changes
[18:34] <XVampireX> because? :D
[18:34] <AlanBell> shane_: that has been mentioned on the design mailing list, there is a bug about it somewhere
[18:34] <shane_> ubuntu is for humans right.
[18:35] <shane_> thats good to know
[18:35] <XVampireX> It's not for humans... it's for monsters!
[18:35] <XVampireX> omg, need to make a distribution for monsters!
[18:36] <shane_> they have its called windows 8
[18:36] <shane_> :)
[18:36] <AlanBell> bug 962265
[18:36] <shane_> ok thanks Alan
[18:37] <AlanBell> fixed 5 hours ago it seems
[18:37] <jussi> monstbuntu!
[18:39] <aimka> Hi
[18:40] <aimka> I'm trying to setup a 802.3ad bonding interface on Ubuntu Precise
[18:40] <aimka> I have declared my slaves using the "bond-slaves" parameter for the master in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:41] <aimka> However, theses slaves never comes up
[18:41] <aimka> Is it the good way to do that or should I declare my slaves with a "bond-master" parameter ?
[18:48] <XVampireX> ubottu, 1+1
[18:49] <XVampireX> actually it's not fair that I need to compile libgtk1.2
[18:49] <XVampireX> to be able to use epsxe
[18:50] <shane_> Hey Vampire I have found your Monster Linux http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/sabayon-4-1.html
[18:53] <XVampireX> shane is wrong... it's just a monster linux, we want a linux for monsters
[19:56] <ssfdre38> i keep on getting this error when o do a dist-upgrade http://paste.ssfdre38.com/1
[19:56] <ssfdre38> when i do*
[20:00] <ssfdre38> what can i do to force the update
[20:02] <guntbert> Whois Reave_This_Prace
[20:02] <guntbert> sorry
[20:17] <erkan^> hello, why isn't synaptics Dutch language?
[20:39] <pangolin> running Kubuntu+1 here and for some time now I have not been able to click on the notification icon, is there something I am missing here or is this happening to others?
[20:41] <Ljungmann> How do I verify that I actually booted via EFI and not BIOS ? It should be set up to boot via EFI, but can I verify this ?
[20:43] <ktosiek> Hi! I just upgraded to precise and it went really smooth, but I have one strange problem: in FF on some sites "fi" changes to stylized "88" (it looks like on 7-segment LCD)
[20:44] <ktosiek> example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification in header just below the banner
[20:45] <ktosiek> and I just noticed I get strange "space" after last character in URL
[20:45] <ktosiek> oh, it's that the cursor is moved to the right after "fi" in address
[20:46] <Caitlin889955> Hello world!
[20:46] <ktosiek> Hello Caitlin889955!
[20:47] <Caitlin889955> Only 17 more days!
[20:47] <ktosiek> until?
[20:47] <Caitlin889955> Presice is going public?
[20:48] <Caitlin889955> or shouldi say 12.10
[20:49] <ktosiek> oh, that :-D I always start to use new Ubuntu before release on less critical systems and waaay after release on important ones, so I never really know when it is :-)
[20:49] <ktosiek> meh
[20:49] <Caitlin889955> heh
[20:49] <ktosiek> precise is the name, that's what's in /etc/apt/sources.list :-P
[20:50] <Caitlin889955> my gtk or plasma desktop keep crashing under normal load.
[20:51] <Caitlin889955> Have you experienced and issues with graphical?
[20:51]  * ktosiek would love to have enough RAM for plasma
[20:51] <ktosiek> not here, but I'm on intel+nvidia hybrid
[20:52] <Caitlin889955> Amd e300 here
[20:52] <Caitlin889955> all it one shoebox motherboard :/
[20:52] <Caitlin889955> I figure might as well just buy mini itx's bc every 5 years i end up buying a new upgrade so.
[20:54] <Caitlin889955> So I take it More than 80% of the room is afk or not human.
[21:18] <AnishS> can someone PLEASE help me regarding Ubuntu 12.04? I would like to know if you are able to change the boot order in grub.
[21:18] <AnishS> anyone?
[21:19] <AnishS> can someone PLEASE help me regarding Ubuntu 12.04? I would like to know if you are able to change the boot order in grub.         Can you also tell me how
[21:21] <BarkingFish> hi hggdh :)  Thanks for the bugmail, i'm happy you approved me!
[21:21] <brobostigon> we have already read it, repeating it so quickly, isnt going to increase the likelyhood, of someone reading or helping. only once needing, in reasonable time period.
[21:21] <hggdh> BarkingFish: our pleasure :-)
[21:22] <ironhalik> AnishS: you could look into that: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/
[21:22] <brobostigon> needed*
[21:22] <BarkingFish> i just have to find the time to read the triage guide now from head to tail, babysitting the rest of this week so busy as stink on a monkey :)
[21:23] <AnishS> thank you ironhalik
[21:26] <AnishS> is 12.04 worth getting?
[21:26] <AnishS> i have 3 minutes left until download complete and i just wanted to make sure
[21:27] <ratcheer> IMHO, 12.04 is excellent.
[21:27] <AnishS> ok
[21:27] <AnishS> but what makes it excellent
[21:29] <ratcheer> AnishS: It's hard to say, really. It's a lot like 11.10 and the improvements are subtle. You use things and you see how well they work.
[21:30] <AnishS> this is completely random. but when you right click on someone in the opera chat and click Who IS. It tells you a shit load about them. Kinda weird
[22:52] <Fyodorovna> Is there a minimal available at this time?
[22:56] <javierf_> in ubuntu 12.04 beta2, when I have a light theme (except for radiance) letters go white, and it's impossible to read them in most applications. Someone knows how to fix this bug or select manually the colour of fonts? Thanks!
[23:02] <Roasted> hello!
[23:02] <Roasted> anybody running gimp 2.7 on 12.04??
[23:03] <jeremiah_> how do i reset the sources?
[23:07] <jeremiah__> join #<ubuntu+1>
[23:09] <jeremiah__> how do i reset the sources?
[23:09] <glosoli> Roasted: i do
[23:10] <Roasted> glosoli, oh? is there a PPA for 12.04 now?
[23:10] <ktosiek> jeremiah__: "reset"? "sources"?
[23:10] <jeremiah__> ktosiek, i keep getting an error saying that my sources are bad
[23:10] <jeremiah__> and want to reset/fix them
[23:11] <glosoli> Roasted: Ah, I meant I am not using, waiting for PPA to be updated, and it will be 2.8 RC1 because it is out already :) There are scripts around net to install 2.8 RC1 on Precise, if you want I may give you a link
[23:12] <jeremiah__> that and for some reason i can no longer connect to wifi.
[23:13] <ktosiek> jeremiah__: what tells you about those sources?
[23:14] <ktosiek> if it's a package manager: sudo apt-get update
[23:14] <jeremiah__> ktosiek, i keep getting an error saying there has been a problem with your sources. if i get it again, i will paste it.
[23:21] <jeremiah__> ktosiek, ok another example is when i open synaptic. it brings this up;
[23:21] <jeremiah__> E: Malformed line 12 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[23:21] <jeremiah__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[23:21] <jeremiah__> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[23:21] <jeremiah__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:23] <ktosiek> jeremiah__: do as it says
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> jeremiah__: there's a typo on line 12 of your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[23:24] <jeremiah__> JontheEchidna, how do i fix it?
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> depends on the typo
[23:24] <jeremiah__> ok how do i open sources?
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:26] <jeremiah__> JontheEchidna,  i has slow internet. and i done have that software. any other way?
[23:26] <jeremiah__> or command
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> oh, I thought this was #kubuntu :P
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:27] <jeremiah__> how do i know what line 12 is?
[23:28] <jeremiah__> i counted and got deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security
[23:28] <ktosiek> jeremiah__: that's a malformed line right there
[23:28] <jeremiah__> so?
[23:28] <jeremiah__> what is done?
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> try replacing it with "deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted multiverse"
[23:29] <ktosiek> add "main restricted universe multiverse" at the end
[23:29] <aroman> anyone else have serious flickering in precise when clicking on workspaces in compiz expo?
[23:30] <jeremiah__> what??
[23:30] <jeremiah__> i didn't understand the last one
[23:31] <jeremiah__> killer whale
[23:31] <jeremiah__> errg
[23:31] <jeremiah__> nothing. entered in the wrong place
[23:31] <ktosiek> jeremiah__: was that a password? :-D
[23:32] <jeremiah__> i tried again and got E: Malformed line 13 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[23:32] <jeremiah__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[23:32] <jeremiah__> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[23:32] <jeremiah__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[23:32] <jeremiah__> and yes so ssshhh
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> lol
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> jeremiah__: could you put the whole file in pastebin? http://pastebin.com/
[23:32] <jeremiah__> now i am changing password...
[23:32] <jeremiah__> sure
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[23:33] <jeremiah__> JontheEchidna, the sources or what?
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:33] <jeremiah__> ok
[23:34] <jeremiah__> hang on though. my bandwidth was jacked down since i used it to much
[23:36] <jeremiah__> http://pastebin.com/WQCC0maT
[23:41] <jeremiah__> http://pastebin.com/WQCC0maT
[23:44] <jeremiah__> hello?
[23:45] <JontheEchidna> oh, sorry
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> add "main restricted multiverse universe" to the last two lines
[23:46] <JontheEchidna> jeremiah__: ^
[23:46] <jeremiah__> so with or without space?
[23:47] <neooo> hi all
[23:47] <JontheEchidna> jeremiah__: like: deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted multiverse universe
[23:47] <neooo> i just installed 12.04 beta
[23:47] <KM0201> neooo: ok?
[23:47] <KM0201> i just did a bunch of updates on 12.04... i think i failed to update the last couple days, due to working so much
[23:48] <neooo> didnt find anything new
[23:48] <neooo> or is there?
[23:49] <itaylor57> KM0201, o/
[23:49] <KM0201> itaylor57: o/
[23:49] <KM0201> neooo: most of the "new" is under the hood... you won't see much of a significant difference for the basic user experience
[23:49] <neooo> btw, what is the native ubuntu resolution?
[23:49] <neooo> oh
[23:50] <KM0201> neooo: thats how most updates/upgrades are... the average user won't notice.
[23:50] <KM0201> thats why everyone had a heart attack when they upgraded 10.10 to 11.04, sign in, and saw unity..lool
[23:50] <neooo> yeah lol
[23:50] <neooo> downloading nvidia drivers ...lol
[23:51] <itaylor57> KM0201, still happy with lxde?
[23:51] <neooo> fuck nvidia
[23:51] <jeremiah__> yay! it worked. now one more question, would you know why ubuntu freezes for me time to time? this is the second time i installed it (i used two diff. discs) and last time it never booted one time. why?
[23:51] <KM0201> itaylor57: absolutely!
[23:51] <bazhang> neooo, no cursing here
[23:51] <jeremiah__> neooo, watch the language
[23:51] <neooo> sorry
[23:52] <itaylor57> KM0201, good to hear, i have stayed with xfce
[23:52] <jeremiah__> neooo, i agree, but please watch the language
[23:52] <neooo> what is xjce?
[23:52] <KM0201> itaylor57: you just need to be brainwashed..lol  join #KM0201_LXDE_Concentration_Camp
[23:52] <KM0201> lol
[23:52] <KM0201> neooo: its another GUI for linux
[23:53] <neooo> oh
[23:53] <neooo> let me google
[23:53] <KM0201> neooo: you can just look at xubuntu.org  and see screenshots (xubuntu has xfce by default)
[23:54] <KM0201> KDE=Kubuntu    then if you want the sexiest desktop on the planet, Lubuntu=LXDE
[23:55] <jeremiah__> hello?
[23:55] <KM0201> jeremiah__: o/
[23:55] <jeremiah__> ???
[23:55] <KM0201> you said "hello?" so i waived
[23:55] <jeremiah__> would you know why ubuntu freezes for me time to time? this is the second time i installed it (i used two diff. discs) and last time it never booted one time. why?
[23:55] <jeremiah__> lol
[23:56] <JontheEchidna> jeremiah__: that I probably can't help you with. But I'm glad your other issue is sorted. :)
[23:56] <neooo> OMGGG!! thats just tooo sexy
[23:56] <jeremiah__> JontheEchidna, thanks for helping with that :)
[23:56] <neooo> why didt i knew of that before
[23:56] <KM0201> neooo: know of what?
[23:58] <KM0201> jeremiah__: how much RAM does your system have
[23:58] <jeremiah__> 4gb
[23:58] <KM0201> what video device?
[23:59] <neooo> KM0201, of lxde and xfce
[23:59] <jeremiah__> not sure. linux does not recognize it in the drivers
[23:59] <KM0201> neooo: well, lxde is.. xfce... i like it, but the current incarnation is a little buggy for my taste (thus how i found lxde)
[23:59] <KM0201> jeremiah__: lspci in a terminal, and find your video card