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| jsjgruber | OK, we'll begin in a minute. | 23:01 |
| jsjgruber | First, please get your system up to date using the update-manager, or | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | by running the following in a terminal. | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | Please speak up in #ubuntu-classroom-chat when you are upgraded. | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | . | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | While we are waiting, let me mention that Ubuntu Open Week is happening | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | from May 2 to May 4. App Developer week is happening April 17 - 19, and | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | there's an Ubuntu Algorithm session this coming Friday. Please | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | consider joining us. | 23:02 |
| jsjgruber | Who is with us this evening? | 23:04 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 23:04 |
| JoseeAntonioR | o/ | 23:05 |
| jsjgruber | JoseeAntonioR, the problem is that we will be using apt-get to install the new version. I guess we can just to the update and try to just install lernid without everything else. I don't think it matters that not everything else is updated if the ISO you are using is just a few days or even weeks old. | 23:08 |
| jsjgruber | Please feel free to speak up here if you want. | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | First on our agenda is testing a new ubuntu version of lernid for precise. If | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | you aren't yet running precise, but are using natty or oneiric, | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | please follow us through the first couple of steps and we'll see | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | if we can test an even newer lernid package in a while. | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | If it's only the three of us, though we should be all set. | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | It's easier to test software that's already in Ubuntu, but I don't like | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | to have software there that already hasn't been tested from somewhere else | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | by at least a few people. | 23:10 |
| jsjgruber | Therefore we will be using a lernid version built for Ubuntu that's in one of my | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | repositories. If we are successful we will propose it for merging with | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | ubuntu within a couple of days. Before we install the new ubuntu lernid version | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | let's make sure we have some software that will make switching versions much | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | easier. Although much of this can be done using the Ubuntu Software Center | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | let's start a terminal and do this that way. It will be handy to start Lernid | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | from a terminal later anyway so we can look for any error messages. | 23:11 |
| jsjgruber | We can use a lernid terminal window for this, too, but I think both of you might be using terminal windows, anyway, no? | 23:12 |
| pleia2 | yep | 23:12 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yes | 23:12 |
| jsjgruber | ok | 23:13 |
| jsjgruber | sudo apt-get install python-software-properties ppa-purge | 23:13 |
| jsjgruber | We'll use these for switching to the new ppa and its software, and then for going back. | 23:13 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Unable to locate package ppa-purge | 23:14 |
| pleia2 | it's in universe, so you'll need that enabled | 23:14 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Great to mention that, I'll do it now | 23:14 |
| jsjgruber | Yep, I think I had to enable universe every time I used an ISO | 23:15 |
| jsjgruber | We'll need universe for lernid, anyway, that's where it lives. | 23:15 |
| pleia2 | done | 23:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I'll be ready in 2 means | 23:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | mins* | 23:16 |
| jsjgruber | Cool, JoseeAntonioR | 23:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Done | 23:17 |
| jsjgruber | great, now-- | 23:17 |
| jsjgruber | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jsjgruber/test-lernid-ppa | 23:17 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done, and installing lernid. | 23:18 |
| jsjgruber | You may have to do a sudo apt-get update first, I'm not sure, but that's the idea | 23:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:20 |
| jsjgruber | I tried it and you do have to do sudo apt-get update and then can do sudo apt-get install lernid and get the new version. | 23:21 |
| jsjgruber | pleia2, did it work for you? We are looking for version 0.8.2.2ubuntu2. | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | Setting up lernid (0.8.2.2ubuntu2~testlernidppa2) ... | 23:21 |
| jsjgruber | excellent, pleia2 | 23:22 |
| JoseeAntonioR | That's the one I got | 23:22 |
| jsjgruber | great | 23:22 |
| jsjgruber | It's time to start lernid up. I'd suggest starting it from your terminal window with the -v option so you can keep an eye | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | just one -v ? | 23:23 |
| jsjgruber | on the output for errors like Tracebacks. Just one -v is what I usually use. | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | defaulting to the spanish classroom | 23:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Exactly | 23:24 |
| jsjgruber | Once you select the english one it should default to that, as you suggested. | 23:24 |
| jsjgruber | Well, sort of. | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | looks good so far | 23:25 |
| jsjgruber | Are you both connected with the new Lernid, now? | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | yes :) | 23:26 |
| jsjgruber | JoseAntonioR, are you with us on lernid? | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | talking over in -chat | 23:27 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yep, I am | 23:27 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Great, so instructors+helpers+voiced will be. | 23:28 |
| jsjgruber | JoseeAntonioR, JoseAntonioR you should see pleia2 be added to our event's instructors in the schedule. Do you see it? | 23:30 |
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| pleia2 | yep :) | 23:30 |
| JoseeAntonioR | jsjgruber: Yep, I do | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | hehe, Classbot saw the change too | 23:30 |
| ClassBot | Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/12/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session. | 23:30 |
| jsjgruber | I was wondering what happened. I couldn't test with classbot. | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | I have a test classbot running with the same code, we can talk later about getting you more access | 23:32 |
| jsjgruber | lernid doesn't react with a session change unless the session uid changes or the end time comes. | 23:32 |
| jsjgruber | pleia2, excellent | 23:32 |
| jsjgruber | http://launchpad.net/lernid is the site for lernid. This should bring it up in the session tab. | 23:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Well, for me it brings the Classroom wiki | 23:38 |
| jsjgruber | did it come up? | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | yep | 23:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yep | 23:38 |
| jsjgruber | good. I'll bring up a slide. | 23:39 |
| jsjgruber | [slidefile https://sites.google.com/site/gruberdocuments/engineering-docs/lernid-test-slides.pdf 2] | 23:39 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yep, slides working. I see Lernid Test, page 2 | 23:39 |
| jsjgruber | A simple slide should come up next to the lernid web page. | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | yep (and oops, I totally didn't get back to you about providing sample slides, sorry!) | 23:40 |
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| jsjgruber | [slide 4 | 23:40 |
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| jsjgruber | [slide 4] | 23:40 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Great, works fine. | 23:41 |
| jsjgruber | Anybody see any problems? Anything show up in the terminal window? | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | nope, and it was even clever enough to open the slides in my already running chrome session | 23:42 |
| pleia2 | Created new window in existing browser session. | 23:42 |
| pleia2 | :D | 23:42 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I got some errors now, when clicking the Open in External Window button | 23:42 |
| pleia2 | (when I clicked "open in external browser:) | 23:42 |
| jsjgruber | That's been a feature since last August, actually. I don't think many instructors use slides. | 23:42 |
| jsjgruber | What errors? | 23:42 |
| JoseeAntonioR | http://paste.ubuntu.com/925690 | 23:43 |
| jsjgruber | That's ok. That's a known precise problem happening down in the guts. Doesn't seem to cause a problem other than the error messages. | 23:44 |
| jsjgruber | Anything else? | 23:44 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Can I test something? | 23:44 |
| jsjgruber | ok | 23:45 |
| JoseeAntonioR_ | Abc | 23:45 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yep, doesn't bold unregistered voiced | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | "Slides have been downloaded" note is lingering on the bottom left | 23:45 |
| jsjgruber | yep, it's particular. That's why it's important to track schedule changes. | 23:46 |
| jsjgruber | pleia2, I think that may be fixed in the next upstream version. Ready to try it? | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | sure | 23:46 |
| jsjgruber | JoseeAntonioR, you ready to try the next lernid version? | 23:46 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Yep, I am :) | 23:47 |
| jsjgruber | let's quick out of lernid and we'll remove the old ppa, then we'll add a new one. | 23:47 |
| jsjgruber | To bring your system back the way it was--go back to a terminal and | 23:48 |
| jsjgruber | type: | 23:48 |
| jsjgruber | sudo purge-ppa ppa:jsjgruber/test-lernid-ppa | 23:48 |
| jsjgruber | after quitting lernid | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | ppa-purge | 23:48 |
| jsjgruber | Sorry, ppa-purge! | 23:49 |
| jsjgruber | Thanks. | 23:49 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, done | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | done | 23:49 |
| jsjgruber | this time I'm the one who's behind. | 23:50 |
| jsjgruber | ok, i'm done too. | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:50 |
| jsjgruber | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jsjgruber/lernid-proposed | 23:50 |
| jsjgruber | sudo apt-get update | 23:50 |
| jsjgruber | then sudo apt-get install lernid and we'll see what version you get. | 23:50 |
| JoseeAntonioR | 0.8.4~lp1+230+268+201204111733~precise1 | 23:51 |
| jsjgruber | yes, JoseeAntonioR. | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | 0.8.4~lp1+230+268+201204111733~precise1 | 23:52 |
| jsjgruber | excellent. Let's start the new lernid | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | oh dear, it just crashed | 23:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | with the -v option? | 23:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I launched it, not from terminal, and crashed | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | I'll pastebin | 23:53 |
| JoseeAntonioR | also launched from terminal, and crashed | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/925697/ | 23:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | http://paste.ubuntu.com/925699/ | 23:54 |
| pleia2 | at least it's consistent :) | 23:55 |
| jsjgruber | same one. It is in the remember the classroom patch. Let me think if we can finesse this so we can test some more rather than giving up | 23:56 |
| JoseeAntonioR | Ok | 23:56 |
| jsjgruber | Can we use an editor like vi on ~/.cache/lernid/config ? | 23:57 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:58 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, I'm on it | 23:58 |
| jsjgruber | we need to add the line: | 23:59 |
| jsjgruber | event = "#ubuntu-classroom -- In English" | 23:59 |
| pleia2 | yay, no crash :) | 23:59 |
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