=== jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p-p === jsjgruber-x-p-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p-a === jsjgruber-x-p-a is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p- === jsjgruber-x-p- is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p- === jsjgruber-x-p- is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p-z === jsjgruber-x-p-z is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === muthusuba_ is now known as muthusuba === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p- === jsjgruber-x-p- is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === yofel_ is now known as yofel === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p-a === jsjgruber is now known as Guest45976 === jsjgruber-x-p-a is now known as jsjgruber-x-p === jsjgruber-x-p is now known as jsjgruber-x-p-b === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === thisfred_ is now known as thisfred === jsjgruber-x-p-b is now known as jsjgruber === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom || Support in #ubuntu || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/8rtIi || Questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat || Current Session: Lernid Application Testing for 12.04 - Instructors: jsjgruber [22:59] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/12/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session. [23:01] OK, we'll begin in a minute. [23:02] First, please get your system up to date using the update-manager, or [23:02] by running the following in a terminal. [23:02] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [23:02] Please speak up in #ubuntu-classroom-chat when you are upgraded. [23:02] . [23:02] While we are waiting, let me mention that Ubuntu Open Week is happening [23:02] from May 2 to May 4. App Developer week is happening April 17 - 19, and [23:02] there's an Ubuntu Algorithm session this coming Friday. Please [23:02] consider joining us. [23:04] Who is with us this evening? [23:04] o/ [23:05] o/ [23:08] JoseeAntonioR, the problem is that we will be using apt-get to install the new version. I guess we can just to the update and try to just install lernid without everything else. I don't think it matters that not everything else is updated if the ISO you are using is just a few days or even weeks old. [23:10] Please feel free to speak up here if you want. [23:10] First on our agenda is testing a new ubuntu version of lernid for precise. If [23:10] you aren't yet running precise, but are using natty or oneiric, [23:10] please follow us through the first couple of steps and we'll see [23:10] if we can test an even newer lernid package in a while. [23:10] If it's only the three of us, though we should be all set. [23:10] It's easier to test software that's already in Ubuntu, but I don't like [23:10] to have software there that already hasn't been tested from somewhere else [23:10] by at least a few people. [23:11] Therefore we will be using a lernid version built for Ubuntu that's in one of my [23:11] repositories. If we are successful we will propose it for merging with [23:11] ubuntu within a couple of days. Before we install the new ubuntu lernid version [23:11] let's make sure we have some software that will make switching versions much [23:11] easier. Although much of this can be done using the Ubuntu Software Center [23:11] let's start a terminal and do this that way. It will be handy to start Lernid [23:11] from a terminal later anyway so we can look for any error messages. [23:12] We can use a lernid terminal window for this, too, but I think both of you might be using terminal windows, anyway, no? [23:12] yep [23:12] Yes [23:13] ok [23:13] sudo apt-get install python-software-properties ppa-purge [23:13] We'll use these for switching to the new ppa and its software, and then for going back. [23:14] Unable to locate package ppa-purge [23:14] it's in universe, so you'll need that enabled [23:14] Great to mention that, I'll do it now [23:15] Yep, I think I had to enable universe every time I used an ISO [23:15] We'll need universe for lernid, anyway, that's where it lives. [23:16] done [23:16] I'll be ready in 2 means [23:16] mins* [23:16] Cool, JoseeAntonioR [23:17] Done [23:17] great, now-- [23:17] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jsjgruber/test-lernid-ppa [23:18] done, and installing lernid. [23:19] You may have to do a sudo apt-get update first, I'm not sure, but that's the idea [23:20] yeah [23:21] I tried it and you do have to do sudo apt-get update and then can do sudo apt-get install lernid and get the new version. [23:21] pleia2, did it work for you? We are looking for version 0.8.2.2ubuntu2. [23:21] Setting up lernid (0.8.2.2ubuntu2~testlernidppa2) ... [23:22] excellent, pleia2 [23:22] That's the one I got [23:22] great [23:22] It's time to start lernid up. I'd suggest starting it from your terminal window with the -v option so you can keep an eye [23:23] just one -v ? [23:23] on the output for errors like Tracebacks. Just one -v is what I usually use. [23:24] defaulting to the spanish classroom [23:24] Exactly [23:24] Once you select the english one it should default to that, as you suggested. [23:25] Well, sort of. [23:25] looks good so far [23:25] Are you both connected with the new Lernid, now? [23:26] yes :) [23:26] JoseAntonioR, are you with us on lernid? [23:27] talking over in -chat [23:27] Yep, I am [23:28] Great, so instructors+helpers+voiced will be. [23:30] JoseeAntonioR, JoseAntonioR you should see pleia2 be added to our event's instructors in the schedule. Do you see it? === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom || Support in #ubuntu || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/8rtIi || Questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat || Current Session: Lernid Application Testing for 12.04 - Instructors: jsjgruber, pleia2 [23:30] yep :) [23:30] jsjgruber: Yep, I do [23:30] hehe, Classbot saw the change too [23:30] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/12/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session. [23:31] I was wondering what happened. I couldn't test with classbot. [23:32] I have a test classbot running with the same code, we can talk later about getting you more access [23:32] lernid doesn't react with a session change unless the session uid changes or the end time comes. [23:32] pleia2, excellent [23:38] http://launchpad.net/lernid is the site for lernid. This should bring it up in the session tab. [23:38] Well, for me it brings the Classroom wiki [23:38] did it come up? [23:38] yep [23:38] Yep [23:39] good. I'll bring up a slide. [23:39] [slidefile https://sites.google.com/site/gruberdocuments/engineering-docs/lernid-test-slides.pdf 2] [23:39] Yep, slides working. I see Lernid Test, page 2 [23:39] A simple slide should come up next to the lernid web page. [23:40] yep (and oops, I totally didn't get back to you about providing sample slides, sorry!) === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom || Support in #ubuntu || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/8rtIi || Questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat || Current Session: Lernid Application Testing for 12.04 - Instructors: jsjgruber, pleia2, JoseeAntonioR [23:40] [slide 4 [23:40] Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/12/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session. [23:40] [slide 4] [23:41] Great, works fine. [23:41] Anybody see any problems? Anything show up in the terminal window? [23:42] nope, and it was even clever enough to open the slides in my already running chrome session [23:42] Created new window in existing browser session. [23:42] :D [23:42] I got some errors now, when clicking the Open in External Window button [23:42] (when I clicked "open in external browser:) [23:42] That's been a feature since last August, actually. I don't think many instructors use slides. [23:42] What errors? [23:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/925690 [23:44] That's ok. That's a known precise problem happening down in the guts. Doesn't seem to cause a problem other than the error messages. [23:44] Anything else? [23:44] Can I test something? [23:45] ok [23:45] Abc [23:45] Yep, doesn't bold unregistered voiced [23:45] "Slides have been downloaded" note is lingering on the bottom left [23:46] yep, it's particular. That's why it's important to track schedule changes. [23:46] pleia2, I think that may be fixed in the next upstream version. Ready to try it? [23:46] sure [23:46] JoseeAntonioR, you ready to try the next lernid version? [23:47] Yep, I am :) [23:47] let's quick out of lernid and we'll remove the old ppa, then we'll add a new one. [23:48] To bring your system back the way it was--go back to a terminal and [23:48] type: [23:48] sudo purge-ppa ppa:jsjgruber/test-lernid-ppa [23:48] after quitting lernid [23:48] ppa-purge [23:49] Sorry, ppa-purge! [23:49] Thanks. [23:49] ok, done [23:49] done [23:50] this time I'm the one who's behind. [23:50] ok, i'm done too. [23:50] :) [23:50] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jsjgruber/lernid-proposed [23:50] sudo apt-get update [23:50] then sudo apt-get install lernid and we'll see what version you get. [23:51] 0.8.4~lp1+230+268+201204111733~precise1 [23:52] yes, JoseeAntonioR. [23:52] 0.8.4~lp1+230+268+201204111733~precise1 [23:52] excellent. Let's start the new lernid [23:52] oh dear, it just crashed [23:52] with the -v option? [23:53] I launched it, not from terminal, and crashed [23:53] I'll pastebin [23:53] also launched from terminal, and crashed [23:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/925697/ [23:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/925699/ [23:55] at least it's consistent :) [23:56] same one. It is in the remember the classroom patch. Let me think if we can finesse this so we can test some more rather than giving up [23:56] Ok [23:57] Can we use an editor like vi on ~/.cache/lernid/config ? [23:58] yeah [23:58] ok, I'm on it [23:59] we need to add the line: [23:59] event = "#ubuntu-classroom -- In English" [23:59] yay, no crash :)