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rouhallahلامس09:46
rouhallahسلام09:46
rouhallahکسی نیس09:46
rouhallah؟09:46
rouhallahمتوجه نشدم؟09:48
dark-sun:D09:54
btralsalam10:20
btraldark-sun10:20
btraleverplays:10:20
btralsalam10:20
btralbe hame10:20
btralye file daram akharin khatesh ine: record,\n10:20
btralyani enter khorde10:20
btralchetor record\n beshe10:20
btralhameye khat haye file man ba ,\n tamam mishe mikham faghat az akharin khat , ro hazf konam10:21
dark-sunbtral✪ notepad> edit > replace "," ba ""10:21
btraldark-sunno ba command mikham10:24
btralto linux begam az akharin khat e file akharin, ro hazf kone10:24
dark-sunbtral✪ cat test.txt | sed -e 's/,$//g'10:27
dark-suntest.txt file matnie10:27
btraldark-sun?chi?10:29
btraldark-sun bale matnie10:29
btralkhat aval va akhar , nadaran10:29
btralno bebakhashid10:29
btralخط آخر و داره بعدش اینتر میخوام و رو از خط آخر بگیرم10:30
btralفقط هم یه و داره هر خط10:30
btralمنظور از و ,10:30
btral*10:30
dark-sunbtral✪ oon har khati akharesh , dashte bashe hazf mikone, har chi nadashte bashe bikhial mishe10:38
dark-suns/har chi/ har khati10:39
btraldark-sunmidonam mikham faghat  to akharin khat anjamesh bede10:46
esak#tehlug10:51
dark-sunbtral✪ tail -n 1 test.txt | sed -e 's/,$//g'10:52
esakDNS to  shabake lan   bara chi hast?10:55
dark-sunesak✪ http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS10:56
btraldark-suntnx10:58
dark-sunbtral✪ np10:58
esakdark-sun eno midonam ke DNS chea. ama mikham bedonam to lan che karbodi dare11:01
electronhi16:25
electronkesi nis ?16:33
electronva !16:33
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WhiteSwanHello be hame17:44
esaksalam, man debian nasb karam ama network manager o bazi az   barname ha nasbnashode ??19:18
esak#tehlug19:19
esakcetooos salam19:19
princefhttp://bbs.archlinux.ir/viewtopic.php?id=2219:20
princefsalam19:20
esak#debian-ir19:20
esakprincef hi19:20
princefhttp://bbs.archlinux.ir/viewtopic.php?id=2219:21
centooos esak, salam man fk nnemikonam betonam komaki konam.19:21
esakcentooos dar khosos  programing ke mitoni19:21
centooosesak, soalet chie?19:22
esakmani cross platform yani enke to har os ejra bshe ?19:23
esakcentooos19:23
centooosesak, nemidonam cross platporm chie vala. ye kam shell script baladam be karet mikhore/.?19:24
the-lightbe sharti ke binary esho tu hamun OS besazi esak19:24
esakmage u programing kar nakardi centooos19:24
esakthe-light che zaboon haye cross-platform hastan ?19:24
nixoeenesak: khob nasb kon roosh :)19:25
esakchetori nixoeen?19:25
the-lightziadan tu google search kon, maroof tarinashh c/c++ hastan19:25
nixoeenesak: benevis tasksel19:25
esakkoja benevisam nixoeen ?19:26
esakto synaptic ?19:26
nixoeenesak: too debiani ke nasb kardi19:26
esakthe-light c# ham hast ?19:26
the-lightc# esman hast, vali amalan noskhe windows ish ba linux ish fargh ziad dare tu piade sazi19:28
nixoeenesak: too Python va Java mituni barname haye Cross Platform benevisi19:28
esaknixoeen man debian ro nasb kardam ama network manager  va bazi barname ha mesle open office nasb nist19:28
nixoeenesak: khob har chi mikhay nasb kon19:29
esaksoalam ene ke chera nasb nashode khob nixoeen ?19:29
nixoeenesak: chon lazem nistan :)19:30
esakbaba man mikham internet vasl sham. network manager lazem nis ??!!19:30
esaknixoeen19:32
nixoeenesak: na, ifupdown lazeme ke nasbe :)19:32
esakifupdown ? chi hast nixoeen ? kojas  man ghabaln ubuntu kar kardam19:32
nixoeenesak: 2 ta dastoore ifup o ifdown e, automatic ejra mishe, kari bahash nadari19:33
nixoeenesak: dasti mituni ba ifconfig networketo config koni19:33
nixoeenesak: ya file e /etc/network/interfaces ro taghir bedi19:34
esakyani bekham wireless vasl sham sudo pppoe bezanam hale ?19:34
esaknixoeen19:34
nixoeenesak: age Linux ro khoob nemishnasi ba hamun Ubuntu kar kon ;)19:34
nixoeenesak: age wireless et vasle, are, vali age vasl nist, bayad ba iwconfig tanzimesh koni avval19:35
nixoeenesak: Che Debiani ro nasb kardi? va karbordet bahash chie?19:36
esakhichi , choon ubuntu zood be zood  noskhe jadidesh miomad19:36
esakmanam ke hay konjkav19:36
esaknamitonam noskhe jadidesho hay begiram19:36
esakraftam ro debian ke 2 sal 1 bar up mishe. vali19:37
esakmikham bishtar kar konam linux19:37
nixoeenesak: Debian Testing hamash update mishe ;)19:37
esakshayad ketab lpi khondam19:37
nixoeenesak: Debian Stable bishtar be darde Server mikhore19:38
esakare man stable greftam19:38
esakstable 6.0.419:38
esakvaghti ham mikhad biad bala ya  noise vahshatnak mide19:38
nixoeenesak: be darde kare khoonegi nemikhore ;) bara khoone hamun Ubuntu ro estefade kon19:39
esakdoroste ama man fkr bishtar az khonegi hastam. mikham ba server linux  isp ha ashena sham nixoeen19:41
esakmikham ketab lpi ro ham bekhonam19:41
esakage shod19:41
nixoeenesak: khob pas ye Ubuntu nasb kon, roosh ye VirtualBox bezar, karaye Server yad gereftan ro too un anjam bede ;)19:42
nixoeenesak: injuri ham mituni be karaye roozanat beresi, ham chizayi ke marboot be servere ro yad begiri19:42
nixoeenesak: Mituni too VirtualBox az roosh Snapshot ham begiri ke har vaght kharabesh kardi, tamame tanzimat ro bargardooni halate avval19:43
esakalan faghat to win vmware daram,19:43
nixoeenesak: virtualbox behtare ;)19:45
esakvmware ham snapshot dare19:45
esak?19:45
esakaz che nazar ?19:45
nixoeenesak: Performance19:45
esakama vmware herfe e tare19:45
esakemkanat bishtar dare19:45
nixoeenesak: emkanate bishtaresh be kare khassi nemiad ;)19:46
esakok miram virtulbox ham minasbam bebenam chetore19:46
esakhala be nazaret linux asli debian nabashe?19:46
esakakhe mikham az karaye ke isp ha mikonan sar dar biaram. unja hamash debian hast mamolan ya centoos. va boshtar migan bara server debian behtare nixoeen19:47
nixoeenesak: alan to Linux ro joda nasb kardi ya too Windows darish?19:48
esakghabaln ubuntu ro to win nasb kadram. ama alan debian ro joda nasb kardam19:49
nixoeenesak: Khob inkaro bokon: Ubuntu ro joda nasb kon, roosh VirtualBox bezar, roo VirtualBox esh Debian Stable beriz19:51
nixoeenesak: injoori behtarin halateshe ;)19:51
esakchera bar axsh ro namigi ke debian bashe ubutu ro virtual ?19:51
nixoeenesak: chon Ubuntu jadid tare, baraye karborde roozane monasebe19:52
nixoeenesak: va hameye process hat rooye Ubuntu khahad bud19:52
nixoeenesak: Debian ro faghat bara yadgiri mikhay va process e khassi roosh nist19:53
nixoeenesak: az tarafi Debian e gharare hey dastkari beshe19:53
nixoeenesak: dar natije az emkane snapshot e VM mituni estefade koni19:53
nixoeenesak: bara manam chizi minevisi avvalesh nickname am ro bezar19:53
esaknixoeen .doroste ama man to  vmware ke tajrobe dashtam ubuntu nasb kadram va nasb dar amal fargh dasht.19:54
esakalbate kam bood19:54
nixoeenesak: farghe khassi nadare joz bakhshe partition bandi19:55
esakok hala  kodom ubuntu behtare ? akharish 11.10 hast ?19:55
esaknixoeen19:55
nixoeenesak: ehtemalan ini ke 2 hafteye dige miad behtare ;)19:56
esakey val tarikhesham ro midoni . u khodet chi nasb kardi nixoeen ?19:57
nixoeenMan Debian daram19:57
nixoeenesak: ^19:57
esakkhodet ham ke debi hast nixoeen19:57
esaknixoeen hasti20:02
nixoeenesak: ?20:02
esakmigam khodet pas chera debian  nasb kardi nixoeen20:02
nixoeenesak: chon man midunam har moshkeli pish biad ro chejuri hal konam20:03
esakey val nice. karet chea nixoeen ?20:03
nixoeenesak: server administrator20:03
esakgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood nixoeen20:03
esakaz koja shoro kardi nixoeen ?20:05
nixoeenesak: chi ro?20:05
esakke  hala shodi server administrator dge20:05
esaknixoeen20:05
nixoeenesak: Network ro az Novell Netware shoroo kardam20:06
esakna na manzoram ene  chi khondi . chi kar kardi nixoeen20:06
nixoeenesak: yeki 2ta ketab ke naboode20:07
nixoeenesak: age network mikhay kar koni, avval boro TCP/IP bekhun20:07
nixoeenesak: badesh ham ketab haye Linux+ va LPI ro20:07
esakare man ghablan khayi eshghe shabke bodam . ama chon raho chaho namidonesam kami delsard shodam20:08
esakketab ha ro ba esme nevisande bgo nixooen20:08
esakTCP/IP  ki ?20:08
esakman reshtekhodam it bode. chantaketab  mesle mohandesi internet  o tanen baum ro khondam ta hododi nixoeen20:09
nixoeenesak: ketab akhe bayad bebini chi giret miad20:09
nixoeenesak: ketab haye entesharat e Sybex khoobe20:10
nixoeenesak: mituni ba ketab haye CCNA shoroo koni, una omooman TCP/IP ro khoob tozih dade20:10
nixoeenesak: ya hatta ketab haye avvaliyeye MCSE20:10
nixoeenesak: TCP/IP ro ke yad gerefti, mituni bad biay soraghe Linux20:10
esakmanzoram ene ke esme nevisande ketab ro bgo. tcp/ip ki  ?20:11
nixoeenesak: daram migam ke, ketab esmesh TCP/IP nist20:13
nixoeenesak: ba ketab haye CCNA shoroo kon20:13
nixoeenesak: entesharate Sybex20:13
nixoeenesak: har kodoomesh bashe khoobe20:13
nixoeenesak: ya Network+20:13
nixoeenesak: TCP/IP yekie, farghi nemikone maale kodoom nevisande bashe20:13
nixoeenesak: man khodam ye 7-8 ta ketab faghat bara TCP/IP o ina khoondam20:14
esakama man ketabi didam ke TCP/IP esmesh bod enteshaarte nas. ccna ham ebokesh ro greftam. khareji has. nixoeen20:14
nixoeenesak: man hamishe englisi khoondam. Ketabe khode TCP/IP ham bashe ok e20:15
nixoeenesak: omooman behtare ye chand jeld ketab dar oon mored bekhuni ta dastet biad chi be chie ;)20:15
nixoeenesak: va jahayi ke nemifahmi ro joda dobare too internet bekhooni20:15
esakok. beben pas ya rahnemaye koli kon. nixoeen. beben man alan  ketab mohandesi internet va tanen boam ro kami khondam20:16
esakva hala mikham linux ro shoro konam20:16
esakchi khobe20:16
nixoeenesak: goftam ke, avval ye ketabe CCNA bardar bekhun, bakhshe TCP/IPsho tamoom kon :)20:17
esaksab kon to fehresste ccna negah konam20:18
esakbeben  ene ke man daram ccna wireless hastesh :D20:20
esaknixoeen20:21
nixoeenesak: http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Certified-Network-Associate-CD-ROM/dp/0470901071/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334175684&sr=8-120:21
esakmamnoon nixoeen. man ketba haye linx  mesle lpi o linuxadministrator beginer guidence ro ham daram20:25
esaknixoeen chera nasb barname ha to ubuntu 10.10 ba 11.04 fargh dare ??20:26
nixoeenesak: che farghi dare?20:29
esakfargh dare masalan  update fire fox. ya nasb baranme be  sorate off ine20:30
esaknixoeen20:30
nixoeenesak: man mostaghim ba APT kar mikonam, yani masalan bara update minevisam: sudo apt-get upgrade20:30
nixoeenesak: age unjoori kar koni, hich farghi nadare20:30
esakbavar kon fargh dasht. mitoni ya search to google koni unvaght mibini ke ya farghaye dare20:31
esakama akme20:31
esaknixoeen u ke masole adminsitarator e  karet chea kolan ?20:33
esakto isp hasti >20:33
nixoeenesak: na, farghi too sathe APT nadare ;)20:34
nixoeenesak: na, man server haye khodamo daram20:34
nixoeenesak: alave bar un, ye chand ta az server haye Daneshgah ham daste mane20:34
esakkhodeto ?? yani chi nixoeen20:34
nixoeenesak: maa Server o Hosting era'e midim ;)20:35
esakvery goood. manam to fkresham pool giram biad hosting bedam.  sarmaye ziadmikhad ? nixoeen20:35
nixoeenesak: na, vali kami savad mikhad20:37
esakkhob  fara migirim nixoeen ; )20:37
nixoeenesak: man ba moshtari haye khaas kar mikonam, va poolam az un dar miad20:37
nixoeenesak: bara hamin hatta site ham nadarim bara Hosting ;)20:38
esakkhob alan kare u chea nixoeen  movazebi kasi ro bargh nagire :D20:39
nixoeenesak: daghighan koja? man chand jaye mokhtalef kar mikonam, karaye khodamam daram, ...20:39
esakkolan mikahm bedonam ya administator server karesh chea nixoeen20:40
nixoeenesak: bastegi dare kare un server chi bashe20:41
nixoeenesak: tanzime server, taghirati ke lazeme dade beshe, update kardan, backup gereftan, ...20:41
esakakhe ena ke dge har rooz niaz nis anjam bshe nixoeen20:42
nixoeenesak: are, vali khob bayad yeki roo ina nezarat dashte bashe ke dorost anjam beshe20:43
nixoeenesak: va vaghti ke moshkeli pish miad, sari un moshkel ro bartaraf kone20:43
esaknixoeen shagerd ghabool namikoni  :D20:46
nixoeenesak: age khoob pool midi chera ;)20:47
esakman age pool dashtam ke alan inja nabodam nixoeen man bache shahrestanam20:47
nixoeenesak: khob beshin ketab bekhun, network ke yad gerefti mituni pool dar biari20:48
esakakhe  moshkel ine ke teory ba amal fargh dare nixoeen20:48
nixoeenesak: ta theory ro balad nabashi amal ham nemituni dorost anjam bedi ;)20:49
esakche begam valla. khob hala fkr kon yaki teory balade. bayad chikar kone. bre to sherkata nixoeen ?20:50
nixoeenesak: bad az inke theory yad gereft bayad amali ro yad begire khob. TCP/IP theory e, Linux amali e ;)20:50
nixoeenesak: badesh mituni hala beri ISP ha o jahayi ke server daran, bahashun kar koni20:51
esakare vali ma ke shahrestanim mahdodim nixoeen20:52
nixoeenesak: kare behtar mikhay Tarrahi e Website e20:52
nixoeenesak: har jayi ham ke bashi, kasayi peyda mishan ke website bekhan20:52
esakare donbalesham. kami ham ASP.NET kar kardam. vali moshkel ene ke c# o database balad nistam nixoeen20:54
nixoeenesak: PHP kar kon, ASP.NET bedard nemikhore20:54
esak:D20:54
esakcheraa nixoeen20:54
nixoeenesak: alan aksare server ha Linuxi va Unixi shodan o faghat PHP support mikonan20:55
nixoeenesak: az tarafe dige, code haye amade o project haye opensource aksaran php hastan20:56
nixoeenesak: kollan mohite behtari bara Web Development e20:56
esaku kar kardi bahash. abzar dare ?  nixoeen20:57
nixoeenesak: are, man hameye Web Development ham ba PHP e20:57
nixoeenesak: abzar barash hast, vali man az hich abzari estefade nemikonam20:58
esakman ba php ashenaye nadaram, maslan tosh bara sakhtan ya bottom bayad cod nevesht ya  khodesh amade  dare drag koni  nixoeen ?20:58
nixoeenesak: button rabti be PHP nadare ke, un HTML e20:59
esakkhob :D hala chizaye dge  namidonam nixoeen21:00
nixoeenesak: man hamishe ye Editor e addi baz mikonam mishinam code minevisam21:01
dingdangdongnixoeen: you do?21:01
esakentori ke sakht mishe nixoeen. paygahe dadato chikar mikoni. zaher sito chiakr mikoni  ??21:02
nixoeenesak: Database ham code e dige, SQL code minevisi. Ghiafeye site ham ke HTML e, ke unam code e21:02
esakna na. manzoram ene ke chetori be data baset  etesal midi to editor addi. va eneke az javascript ya chizaye dge ke baar zaher site hast estefade namikoni  mage ?? nixoeen21:04
nixoeenesak: database ba PHP ettesal peyda mikone na editore man. Ye webserver nasb mikoni, un code e PHP ro ejra mikone. Javascript o ina ham code e dige :)21:05
esakay khodaa midonam.  akhe to migi to editor sade. akhe bayd testesh koni. unja ke namsihe21:06
esaknixoeen21:06
nixoeenesak: bara Testesh un file ei ke too editor e sade gozashtam ro az too ye Browser fara mikhoonam21:08
dingdangdongnixoeen: hello? :D21:09
esakok. badesh az javascrip estefdae mikoni ya na.  ba chi zaher siteto ghashang mikoni ?? nixoeen21:09
nixoeenesak: are, javascript ham estefade mikonam21:14
esaknixoeen hasti21:14
nixoeenesak: AJAX dige21:14
nixoeenesak: ghashangi e site bishtar kare Designer e ;)21:15
nixoeendingdangdong: aleyke hello21:15
esakakhe nixoeen ASP,NET khayli chiza dare21:15
esakabzar ziad dare21:15
esakajax . Jquery.21:15
nixoeenesak: JQuery va AJAX ye chizie zir majmoo'eye HTML21:15
nixoeenesak: too PHP ham mituni az una estefade koni21:16
esakdoros bazam asp dare. unja maslan mitoni tabale bekeshi be rahati21:16
esakya aks bezari be rahati21:16
esakva ya maziyate dge ham ene ke  age c# va asp ro ayd begiri  dge khayli chiza ro baladi ham mokamelan ham eneke ya language yad grefti  nixoeen21:17
nixoeenesak: avvalin badish ine ke .NET ye system e gheyre azade va tahte Windows ejra mishe faghat21:18
esakdoroste21:19
nixoeenesak: alan jadidan hameye servera daran mian samte linux o unix, yani code haye .net et ro nemituni too una ejra koni21:19
nixoeenesak: jahaye bozorg hame az system haye linuxi estefade mikonan21:19
nixoeenesak: masalan google, youtube, yahoo, ...21:19
nixoeenesak: ya facebook21:19
nixoeenesak: az tarafe dige performance e .NET payine21:20
nixoeenesak: php va python performance e kheyli behtari midan nesbat be .net21:20
esakare.  man khodam ya modat  shak dashtam ke chee chiz ro yad begiarm. yani beram samte .NET ya azad21:20
nixoeenesak: va dastet tooye php o python kheyli baztare nesbat be .net21:20
esakenama ke migam .NET chon proje uni en bodesh21:21
esaknazert  raje be java chetore nixoeen ?21:22
nixoeenesak: man kheyli java ro doost nadaram21:23
esakakhe khobesh ine ke cross-platforme dge21:24
esakhame ja  darish nixoeen21:24
nixoeenesak: are, vali roo VM ejra mishe, bug o ina ziad dare, ...21:25
esakkhob pas hala fkrmikoni behtarin zabon bara programing chea. c++?? nixoeen man ke fkr mikonam c++ ya chiz degas21:25
nixoeenesak: bastegi dare bara che kari. Man too Web ba PHP code mizanam, birunesh ba C ya C++21:26
esakhamin hast ke adam divone mishe. namishe ya chizi bashe ka hameja estefade bshe :D21:26
esaknixoeen21:27
nixoeenesak: zaban haye mokhtalef ba ahdafe mokhtalef ijad shodan21:27
nixoeenesak: bara hamin nemishe hameja estefadashoon kard :)21:27
esakare va moshkle man ene ke hadaf maloom nis nixoeen : (21:28
nixoeenesak: khob pas hadafeto moshakhas kon avval21:28
esaknetwork aval az hame . tarahi site 2.  application programing 321:30
esaknixoeen21:30
esakhasti nixoeen21:36
nixoeenesak: network kar gir ovordan kheyli rahat nist ;)21:37
nixoeenesak: age sari mikhay be pool beresi bayad beri soraghe 2vvomi21:37
esaksaret shologhe nixoeen /21:38
nixoeenesak: are, mehmoon daram21:39
esaksalam bresoon. en avghte shab :D nixoeen21:39
esaknixoeen . alan karborde c++ chi hast u ke code mizani ??21:40
nixoeenesak: barnameye desktop minevisam bahash21:46
nixoeenesak: har chi ke moshtari sefaresh bede :)21:46
esakkhob nixoeen ketab khob bara tarahi site ba php chi soragh dari ??21:51
nixoeenesak: donbale ketabe khoob nagard, bejash chand ta ketab bekhun21:54
esakman vaght nadaram nixoeen. khedmat jeloom hast21:55
esaknixoeen mikham bishtar ba ham ashena shim21:55
nixoeenesak: in chiza zaman mibare21:55
esaku hamishe inja e ?21:55
nixoeenesak: aksaran21:55
esakchetori mitonam bishtar bahat dar ertebat  basham nixoeen ??21:56
nixoeenesak: haminja am dige, kari dashti bia inja21:59
esakhamishe inja e nixoeen   http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/190-5755656-6001569?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=php21:59
esaknixoeen sobha ham hasti ?/22:23
esakman beram dge22:23
nixoeenesak: na22:23
nixoeenesak: ok, shab khosh, bye22:23
esakpas kay hasti nixoeen ?22:24
nixoeenesak: bad az zohra22:24
esakok , faghat ya soal dge. to php  data based ba chi hast. sql server ? nixoeen22:25
nixoeenesak: hame chi mishe. Man omooman MySQL estefade mikonam22:26
esakok   khayli azat mamnoonam babat rahnemayet nixoeen by22:28

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