[09:46] لامس [09:46] سلام [09:46] کسی نیس [09:46] ؟ [09:48] متوجه نشدم؟ [09:54] :D [10:20] salam [10:20] dark-sun [10:20] everplays: [10:20] salam [10:20] be hame [10:20] ye file daram akharin khatesh ine: record,\n [10:20] yani enter khorde [10:20] chetor record\n beshe [10:21] hameye khat haye file man ba ,\n tamam mishe mikham faghat az akharin khat , ro hazf konam [10:21] btral✪ notepad> edit > replace "," ba "" [10:24] dark-sunno ba command mikham [10:24] to linux begam az akharin khat e file akharin, ro hazf kone [10:27] btral✪ cat test.txt | sed -e 's/,$//g' [10:27] test.txt file matnie [10:29] dark-sun?chi? [10:29] dark-sun bale matnie [10:29] khat aval va akhar , nadaran [10:29] no bebakhashid [10:30] خط آخر و داره بعدش اینتر میخوام و رو از خط آخر بگیرم [10:30] فقط هم یه و داره هر خط [10:30] منظور از و , [10:30] * [10:38] btral✪ oon har khati akharesh , dashte bashe hazf mikone, har chi nadashte bashe bikhial mishe [10:39] s/har chi/ har khati [10:46] dark-sunmidonam mikham faghat to akharin khat anjamesh bede [10:51] #tehlug [10:52] btral✪ tail -n 1 test.txt | sed -e 's/,$//g' [10:55] DNS to shabake lan bara chi hast? [10:56] esak✪ http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS [10:58] dark-suntnx [10:58] btral✪ np [11:01] dark-sun eno midonam ke DNS chea. ama mikham bedonam to lan che karbodi dare [16:25] hi [16:33] kesi nis ? [16:33] va ! === fvahid` is now known as fvahid [17:44] Hello be hame [19:18] salam, man debian nasb karam ama network manager o bazi az barname ha nasbnashode ?? [19:19] #tehlug [19:19] cetooos salam [19:20] http://bbs.archlinux.ir/viewtopic.php?id=22 [19:20] salam [19:20] #debian-ir [19:20] princef hi [19:21] http://bbs.archlinux.ir/viewtopic.php?id=22 [19:21] esak, salam man fk nnemikonam betonam komaki konam. [19:21] centooos dar khosos programing ke mitoni [19:22] esak, soalet chie? [19:23] mani cross platform yani enke to har os ejra bshe ? [19:23] centooos [19:24] esak, nemidonam cross platporm chie vala. ye kam shell script baladam be karet mikhore/.? [19:24] be sharti ke binary esho tu hamun OS besazi esak [19:24] mage u programing kar nakardi centooos [19:24] the-light che zaboon haye cross-platform hastan ? [19:25] esak: khob nasb kon roosh :) [19:25] chetori nixoeen? [19:25] ziadan tu google search kon, maroof tarinashh c/c++ hastan [19:25] esak: benevis tasksel [19:26] koja benevisam nixoeen ? [19:26] to synaptic ? [19:26] esak: too debiani ke nasb kardi [19:26] the-light c# ham hast ? [19:28] c# esman hast, vali amalan noskhe windows ish ba linux ish fargh ziad dare tu piade sazi [19:28] esak: too Python va Java mituni barname haye Cross Platform benevisi [19:28] nixoeen man debian ro nasb kardam ama network manager va bazi barname ha mesle open office nasb nist [19:29] esak: khob har chi mikhay nasb kon [19:29] soalam ene ke chera nasb nashode khob nixoeen ? [19:30] esak: chon lazem nistan :) [19:30] baba man mikham internet vasl sham. network manager lazem nis ??!! [19:32] nixoeen [19:32] esak: na, ifupdown lazeme ke nasbe :) [19:32] ifupdown ? chi hast nixoeen ? kojas man ghabaln ubuntu kar kardam [19:33] esak: 2 ta dastoore ifup o ifdown e, automatic ejra mishe, kari bahash nadari [19:33] esak: dasti mituni ba ifconfig networketo config koni [19:34] esak: ya file e /etc/network/interfaces ro taghir bedi [19:34] yani bekham wireless vasl sham sudo pppoe bezanam hale ? [19:34] nixoeen [19:34] esak: age Linux ro khoob nemishnasi ba hamun Ubuntu kar kon ;) [19:35] esak: age wireless et vasle, are, vali age vasl nist, bayad ba iwconfig tanzimesh koni avval [19:36] esak: Che Debiani ro nasb kardi? va karbordet bahash chie? [19:36] hichi , choon ubuntu zood be zood noskhe jadidesh miomad [19:36] manam ke hay konjkav [19:36] namitonam noskhe jadidesho hay begiram [19:37] raftam ro debian ke 2 sal 1 bar up mishe. vali [19:37] mikham bishtar kar konam linux [19:37] esak: Debian Testing hamash update mishe ;) [19:37] shayad ketab lpi khondam [19:38] esak: Debian Stable bishtar be darde Server mikhore [19:38] are man stable greftam [19:38] stable 6.0.4 [19:38] vaghti ham mikhad biad bala ya noise vahshatnak mide [19:39] esak: be darde kare khoonegi nemikhore ;) bara khoone hamun Ubuntu ro estefade kon [19:41] doroste ama man fkr bishtar az khonegi hastam. mikham ba server linux isp ha ashena sham nixoeen [19:41] mikham ketab lpi ro ham bekhonam [19:41] age shod [19:42] esak: khob pas ye Ubuntu nasb kon, roosh ye VirtualBox bezar, karaye Server yad gereftan ro too un anjam bede ;) [19:42] esak: injuri ham mituni be karaye roozanat beresi, ham chizayi ke marboot be servere ro yad begiri [19:43] esak: Mituni too VirtualBox az roosh Snapshot ham begiri ke har vaght kharabesh kardi, tamame tanzimat ro bargardooni halate avval [19:43] alan faghat to win vmware daram, [19:45] esak: virtualbox behtare ;) [19:45] vmware ham snapshot dare [19:45] ? [19:45] az che nazar ? [19:45] esak: Performance [19:45] ama vmware herfe e tare [19:45] emkanat bishtar dare [19:46] esak: emkanate bishtaresh be kare khassi nemiad ;) [19:46] ok miram virtulbox ham minasbam bebenam chetore [19:46] hala be nazaret linux asli debian nabashe? [19:47] akhe mikham az karaye ke isp ha mikonan sar dar biaram. unja hamash debian hast mamolan ya centoos. va boshtar migan bara server debian behtare nixoeen [19:48] esak: alan to Linux ro joda nasb kardi ya too Windows darish? [19:49] ghabaln ubuntu ro to win nasb kadram. ama alan debian ro joda nasb kardam [19:51] esak: Khob inkaro bokon: Ubuntu ro joda nasb kon, roosh VirtualBox bezar, roo VirtualBox esh Debian Stable beriz [19:51] esak: injoori behtarin halateshe ;) [19:51] chera bar axsh ro namigi ke debian bashe ubutu ro virtual ? [19:52] esak: chon Ubuntu jadid tare, baraye karborde roozane monasebe [19:52] esak: va hameye process hat rooye Ubuntu khahad bud [19:53] esak: Debian ro faghat bara yadgiri mikhay va process e khassi roosh nist [19:53] esak: az tarafi Debian e gharare hey dastkari beshe [19:53] esak: dar natije az emkane snapshot e VM mituni estefade koni [19:53] esak: bara manam chizi minevisi avvalesh nickname am ro bezar [19:54] nixoeen .doroste ama man to vmware ke tajrobe dashtam ubuntu nasb kadram va nasb dar amal fargh dasht. [19:54] albate kam bood [19:55] esak: farghe khassi nadare joz bakhshe partition bandi [19:55] ok hala kodom ubuntu behtare ? akharish 11.10 hast ? [19:55] nixoeen [19:56] esak: ehtemalan ini ke 2 hafteye dige miad behtare ;) [19:57] ey val tarikhesham ro midoni . u khodet chi nasb kardi nixoeen ? [19:57] Man Debian daram [19:57] esak: ^ [19:57] khodet ham ke debi hast nixoeen [20:02] nixoeen hasti [20:02] esak: ? [20:02] migam khodet pas chera debian nasb kardi nixoeen [20:03] esak: chon man midunam har moshkeli pish biad ro chejuri hal konam [20:03] ey val nice. karet chea nixoeen ? [20:03] esak: server administrator [20:03] gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood nixoeen [20:05] az koja shoro kardi nixoeen ? [20:05] esak: chi ro? [20:05] ke hala shodi server administrator dge [20:05] nixoeen [20:06] esak: Network ro az Novell Netware shoroo kardam [20:06] na na manzoram ene chi khondi . chi kar kardi nixoeen [20:07] esak: yeki 2ta ketab ke naboode [20:07] esak: age network mikhay kar koni, avval boro TCP/IP bekhun [20:07] esak: badesh ham ketab haye Linux+ va LPI ro [20:08] are man ghablan khayi eshghe shabke bodam . ama chon raho chaho namidonesam kami delsard shodam [20:08] ketab ha ro ba esme nevisande bgo nixooen [20:08] TCP/IP ki ? [20:09] man reshtekhodam it bode. chantaketab mesle mohandesi internet o tanen baum ro khondam ta hododi nixoeen [20:09] esak: ketab akhe bayad bebini chi giret miad [20:10] esak: ketab haye entesharat e Sybex khoobe [20:10] esak: mituni ba ketab haye CCNA shoroo koni, una omooman TCP/IP ro khoob tozih dade [20:10] esak: ya hatta ketab haye avvaliyeye MCSE [20:10] esak: TCP/IP ro ke yad gerefti, mituni bad biay soraghe Linux [20:11] manzoram ene ke esme nevisande ketab ro bgo. tcp/ip ki ? [20:13] esak: daram migam ke, ketab esmesh TCP/IP nist [20:13] esak: ba ketab haye CCNA shoroo kon [20:13] esak: entesharate Sybex [20:13] esak: har kodoomesh bashe khoobe [20:13] esak: ya Network+ [20:13] esak: TCP/IP yekie, farghi nemikone maale kodoom nevisande bashe [20:14] esak: man khodam ye 7-8 ta ketab faghat bara TCP/IP o ina khoondam [20:14] ama man ketabi didam ke TCP/IP esmesh bod enteshaarte nas. ccna ham ebokesh ro greftam. khareji has. nixoeen [20:15] esak: man hamishe englisi khoondam. Ketabe khode TCP/IP ham bashe ok e [20:15] esak: omooman behtare ye chand jeld ketab dar oon mored bekhuni ta dastet biad chi be chie ;) [20:15] esak: va jahayi ke nemifahmi ro joda dobare too internet bekhooni [20:16] ok. beben pas ya rahnemaye koli kon. nixoeen. beben man alan ketab mohandesi internet va tanen boam ro kami khondam [20:16] va hala mikham linux ro shoro konam [20:16] chi khobe [20:17] esak: goftam ke, avval ye ketabe CCNA bardar bekhun, bakhshe TCP/IPsho tamoom kon :) [20:18] sab kon to fehresste ccna negah konam [20:20] beben ene ke man daram ccna wireless hastesh :D [20:21] nixoeen [20:21] esak: http://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Certified-Network-Associate-CD-ROM/dp/0470901071/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334175684&sr=8-1 [20:25] mamnoon nixoeen. man ketba haye linx mesle lpi o linuxadministrator beginer guidence ro ham daram [20:26] nixoeen chera nasb barname ha to ubuntu 10.10 ba 11.04 fargh dare ?? [20:29] esak: che farghi dare? [20:30] fargh dare masalan update fire fox. ya nasb baranme be sorate off ine [20:30] nixoeen [20:30] esak: man mostaghim ba APT kar mikonam, yani masalan bara update minevisam: sudo apt-get upgrade [20:30] esak: age unjoori kar koni, hich farghi nadare [20:31] bavar kon fargh dasht. mitoni ya search to google koni unvaght mibini ke ya farghaye dare [20:31] ama akme [20:33] nixoeen u ke masole adminsitarator e karet chea kolan ? [20:33] to isp hasti > [20:34] esak: na, farghi too sathe APT nadare ;) [20:34] esak: na, man server haye khodamo daram [20:34] esak: alave bar un, ye chand ta az server haye Daneshgah ham daste mane [20:34] khodeto ?? yani chi nixoeen [20:35] esak: maa Server o Hosting era'e midim ;) [20:35] very goood. manam to fkresham pool giram biad hosting bedam. sarmaye ziadmikhad ? nixoeen [20:37] esak: na, vali kami savad mikhad [20:37] khob fara migirim nixoeen ; ) [20:37] esak: man ba moshtari haye khaas kar mikonam, va poolam az un dar miad [20:38] esak: bara hamin hatta site ham nadarim bara Hosting ;) [20:39] khob alan kare u chea nixoeen movazebi kasi ro bargh nagire :D [20:39] esak: daghighan koja? man chand jaye mokhtalef kar mikonam, karaye khodamam daram, ... [20:40] kolan mikahm bedonam ya administator server karesh chea nixoeen [20:41] esak: bastegi dare kare un server chi bashe [20:41] esak: tanzime server, taghirati ke lazeme dade beshe, update kardan, backup gereftan, ... [20:42] akhe ena ke dge har rooz niaz nis anjam bshe nixoeen [20:43] esak: are, vali khob bayad yeki roo ina nezarat dashte bashe ke dorost anjam beshe [20:43] esak: va vaghti ke moshkeli pish miad, sari un moshkel ro bartaraf kone [20:46] nixoeen shagerd ghabool namikoni :D [20:47] esak: age khoob pool midi chera ;) [20:47] man age pool dashtam ke alan inja nabodam nixoeen man bache shahrestanam [20:48] esak: khob beshin ketab bekhun, network ke yad gerefti mituni pool dar biari [20:48] akhe moshkel ine ke teory ba amal fargh dare nixoeen [20:49] esak: ta theory ro balad nabashi amal ham nemituni dorost anjam bedi ;) [20:50] che begam valla. khob hala fkr kon yaki teory balade. bayad chikar kone. bre to sherkata nixoeen ? [20:50] esak: bad az inke theory yad gereft bayad amali ro yad begire khob. TCP/IP theory e, Linux amali e ;) [20:51] esak: badesh mituni hala beri ISP ha o jahayi ke server daran, bahashun kar koni [20:52] are vali ma ke shahrestanim mahdodim nixoeen [20:52] esak: kare behtar mikhay Tarrahi e Website e [20:52] esak: har jayi ham ke bashi, kasayi peyda mishan ke website bekhan [20:54] are donbalesham. kami ham ASP.NET kar kardam. vali moshkel ene ke c# o database balad nistam nixoeen [20:54] esak: PHP kar kon, ASP.NET bedard nemikhore [20:54] :D [20:54] cheraa nixoeen [20:55] esak: alan aksare server ha Linuxi va Unixi shodan o faghat PHP support mikonan [20:56] esak: az tarafe dige, code haye amade o project haye opensource aksaran php hastan [20:56] esak: kollan mohite behtari bara Web Development e [20:57] u kar kardi bahash. abzar dare ? nixoeen [20:57] esak: are, man hameye Web Development ham ba PHP e [20:58] esak: abzar barash hast, vali man az hich abzari estefade nemikonam [20:58] man ba php ashenaye nadaram, maslan tosh bara sakhtan ya bottom bayad cod nevesht ya khodesh amade dare drag koni nixoeen ? [20:59] esak: button rabti be PHP nadare ke, un HTML e [21:00] khob :D hala chizaye dge namidonam nixoeen [21:01] esak: man hamishe ye Editor e addi baz mikonam mishinam code minevisam [21:01] nixoeen: you do? [21:02] entori ke sakht mishe nixoeen. paygahe dadato chikar mikoni. zaher sito chiakr mikoni ?? [21:02] esak: Database ham code e dige, SQL code minevisi. Ghiafeye site ham ke HTML e, ke unam code e [21:04] na na. manzoram ene ke chetori be data baset etesal midi to editor addi. va eneke az javascript ya chizaye dge ke baar zaher site hast estefade namikoni mage ?? nixoeen [21:05] esak: database ba PHP ettesal peyda mikone na editore man. Ye webserver nasb mikoni, un code e PHP ro ejra mikone. Javascript o ina ham code e dige :) [21:06] ay khodaa midonam. akhe to migi to editor sade. akhe bayd testesh koni. unja ke namsihe [21:06] nixoeen [21:08] esak: bara Testesh un file ei ke too editor e sade gozashtam ro az too ye Browser fara mikhoonam [21:09] nixoeen: hello? :D [21:09] ok. badesh az javascrip estefdae mikoni ya na. ba chi zaher siteto ghashang mikoni ?? nixoeen [21:14] esak: are, javascript ham estefade mikonam [21:14] nixoeen hasti [21:14] esak: AJAX dige [21:15] esak: ghashangi e site bishtar kare Designer e ;) [21:15] dingdangdong: aleyke hello [21:15] akhe nixoeen ASP,NET khayli chiza dare [21:15] abzar ziad dare [21:15] ajax . Jquery. [21:15] esak: JQuery va AJAX ye chizie zir majmoo'eye HTML [21:16] esak: too PHP ham mituni az una estefade koni [21:16] doros bazam asp dare. unja maslan mitoni tabale bekeshi be rahati [21:16] ya aks bezari be rahati [21:17] va ya maziyate dge ham ene ke age c# va asp ro ayd begiri dge khayli chiza ro baladi ham mokamelan ham eneke ya language yad grefti nixoeen [21:18] esak: avvalin badish ine ke .NET ye system e gheyre azade va tahte Windows ejra mishe faghat [21:19] doroste [21:19] esak: alan jadidan hameye servera daran mian samte linux o unix, yani code haye .net et ro nemituni too una ejra koni [21:19] esak: jahaye bozorg hame az system haye linuxi estefade mikonan [21:19] esak: masalan google, youtube, yahoo, ... [21:19] esak: ya facebook [21:20] esak: az tarafe dige performance e .NET payine [21:20] esak: php va python performance e kheyli behtari midan nesbat be .net [21:20] are. man khodam ya modat shak dashtam ke chee chiz ro yad begiarm. yani beram samte .NET ya azad [21:20] esak: va dastet tooye php o python kheyli baztare nesbat be .net [21:21] enama ke migam .NET chon proje uni en bodesh [21:22] nazert raje be java chetore nixoeen ? [21:23] esak: man kheyli java ro doost nadaram [21:24] akhe khobesh ine ke cross-platforme dge [21:24] hame ja darish nixoeen [21:25] esak: are, vali roo VM ejra mishe, bug o ina ziad dare, ... [21:25] khob pas hala fkrmikoni behtarin zabon bara programing chea. c++?? nixoeen man ke fkr mikonam c++ ya chiz degas [21:26] esak: bastegi dare bara che kari. Man too Web ba PHP code mizanam, birunesh ba C ya C++ [21:26] hamin hast ke adam divone mishe. namishe ya chizi bashe ka hameja estefade bshe :D [21:27] nixoeen [21:27] esak: zaban haye mokhtalef ba ahdafe mokhtalef ijad shodan [21:27] esak: bara hamin nemishe hameja estefadashoon kard :) [21:28] are va moshkle man ene ke hadaf maloom nis nixoeen : ( [21:28] esak: khob pas hadafeto moshakhas kon avval [21:30] network aval az hame . tarahi site 2. application programing 3 [21:30] nixoeen [21:36] hasti nixoeen [21:37] esak: network kar gir ovordan kheyli rahat nist ;) [21:37] esak: age sari mikhay be pool beresi bayad beri soraghe 2vvomi [21:38] saret shologhe nixoeen / [21:39] esak: are, mehmoon daram [21:39] salam bresoon. en avghte shab :D nixoeen [21:40] nixoeen . alan karborde c++ chi hast u ke code mizani ?? [21:46] esak: barnameye desktop minevisam bahash [21:46] esak: har chi ke moshtari sefaresh bede :) [21:51] khob nixoeen ketab khob bara tarahi site ba php chi soragh dari ?? [21:54] esak: donbale ketabe khoob nagard, bejash chand ta ketab bekhun [21:55] man vaght nadaram nixoeen. khedmat jeloom hast [21:55] nixoeen mikham bishtar ba ham ashena shim [21:55] esak: in chiza zaman mibare [21:55] u hamishe inja e ? [21:55] esak: aksaran [21:56] chetori mitonam bishtar bahat dar ertebat basham nixoeen ?? [21:59] esak: haminja am dige, kari dashti bia inja [21:59] hamishe inja e nixoeen http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/190-5755656-6001569?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=php [22:23] nixoeen sobha ham hasti ?/ [22:23] man beram dge [22:23] esak: na [22:23] esak: ok, shab khosh, bye [22:24] pas kay hasti nixoeen ? [22:24] esak: bad az zohra [22:25] ok , faghat ya soal dge. to php data based ba chi hast. sql server ? nixoeen [22:26] esak: hame chi mishe. Man omooman MySQL estefade mikonam [22:28] ok khayli azat mamnoonam babat rahnemayet nixoeen by