=== mfisch` is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest74742 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === rsalveti` is now known as rsalveti [06:46] good morning [06:54] morning dholbach [06:59] Hi dholbach and ajmitch [06:59] hi ajmitch, hi geser [06:59] hi geser === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:13] broder: Hi, do you have time to discuss bug 898003? What's the right way to get usbip updated? [09:13] Launchpad bug 898003 in usbip (Ubuntu) "usbip source is maintained in kernel tree now" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898003 [09:21] Whoopie: get it on the sponsorship queue [09:21] !sponsorship [09:21] You can find out about the package sponsorship process here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess - For !UDS sponsorship see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ [09:22] tumbleweed: yes, but we need to agree how to package usbip as it's in the kernel tree now. Just make a snapshot of the folder? What should be the version number, e.g. 3.2.0? [09:22] yes, sounds sensible [09:23] err, 3.2.0-0ubutnu1 obviously [09:23] and assume I can spell Ubuntu [09:24] hehe [09:27] tumbleweed, broder: I subscribed the sponsors team. I'm idling here if you have any questions/remarks. [09:28] Whoopie: the current sponsorship turnaround time is a week or so, so hopefully broder doesn't neglect you :) [09:29] are there significant changes in the new version? [09:30] usbip_bind_driver binary was merged with the usbip binary. And the command syntax changed. That's all I can see from user perspective. [09:30] tumbleweed: and btw, I'm good in prodding, so broder has no chance. :-D [09:31] he does seem rather busy atm, though [09:32] those changes sound significant enough to need a feature freeze exception at this point, but also likely something that'll be easily approved (I don't see any reverse dependencies) [09:32] !ffe [09:32] Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process. [09:33] it "should" be approved as the current usbip package doesn't work at all with the current kernel modules. [09:33] ah, then don't bother :) [10:03] tumbleweed: just found a version number in usbip's configure.ac (https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aee58894551d7a9992f79d77d89f5846eb5e938) [10:03] Should I use this version number then? [10:10] Whoopie: yeah, probably a better choice. And it's still less than 3.2.0, so when this does eventually come from the kernel, that can use a kernel version without causing any harm === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Guest74742 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest67396 === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [13:53] thanks ScottK for reassigning bug 978671 - I originally meant to mark it 'fix committed', but seem to have missed that status :) [13:53] Launchpad bug 978671 in s2tc (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync s2tc 0~git20110809-1 (universe) from Debian sid (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/978671 [13:55] dholbach: No problem. [13:55] ScottK, is release team activity higher than in past releases? [13:55] I don't think so. [13:56] No metrics though. [13:56] sure, I was more interested in gut feeling than pie charts ;-) [13:56] cool === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 [15:23] hi, quick initscript question that http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_3.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/iniscrptact.html didn't answer me [15:23] if a service isn't running and I issue "/etc/init.d/ reload", should it fail? [15:25] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s-sysvinit also didn't help [15:27] /etc/init.d/skeleton has a sample do_reload() function that always returns 0 === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Guest48038 is now known as Zic [16:10] ahasenack: you could argue that the expected result of a reload is for the service to be active with the latest config loaded, along the lines of a restart action on an inactive service === chrisccoulson is now known as sebI28 === sebI28 is now known as chrisccoulson === Guest67396 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest76264 [18:50] Hello, [18:50] Currently, Alacarte (a menu editor for menus made with libgnome-menu) recommends gnome-panel (Gnome Classic session) and exo-utils (XFCE session) packages but Alacarte can be used with other sessions: e.g. Cairo-Dock (but I'm sure there is also other applications) also uses libgnome-menu in order to have a "Gnome-Menu-like" and we can use Cairo-Dock without Gnome/XFCE Panel. Alacarte can be used to edit this menu but currently if we [18:50] install Alacarte on Ubuntu, Gnome-Panel and the Gnome Classic session will be installed... === Guest76264 is now known as mfisch [18:50] A solution is to no longer recommend these packages but we can add them as suggestions. Do you think it's a good solution? [18:50] This is what I said on the bug #975299 [18:50] Launchpad bug 975299 in alacarte (Ubuntu) "gnome-panel and exo-utils should not be recommended by Alacarte package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975299 [18:50] A bzr branch has been linked to this bug report. === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 === yofel_ is now known as yofel