=== CFHowlett_ is now known as CFHowlett [12:40] ping anyone [12:55] scriptwarlock: pong [12:56] you using ustudio? [12:57] I sure am. [12:58] precise, though. [13:00] what advantage do we have on rtkernel over the standard kernel ubuntu uses? [13:00] We don't have an rt-kernel. Oneiric (and prior all the way up to I can't recall which release) used the same the vanilla used. But for precise, there's going to be a -lowlatency kernel. [13:01] what does that mean astraljava? [13:01] But I'm not the guy to answer the pros and cons about kernels. I get the basic idea, which is quite obvious from the name already, ie. lowering the latency of the system. [13:02] this is my first time to use ustudio and was very delighted [13:02] although i was used now to unity and this release is xfcw [13:02] People have been testing this new kernel, and from their reports I can concoct that it's going to be awesome for the majority of audio creators. For others, I'm not sure whether they benefit from it at all. [13:02] xfce [13:03] Yeah, the switch was done for oneiric already, but now it got polished a little bit further. [13:03] IMHO, this is one of the most solid releases we've done thus far. [13:03] I hope others will feel the same when they get to use it. [13:04] i have ustudio precise on vmware and was very happy although a lot of apps that i dont need really is it safe to remove some of this? [13:05] scriptwarlock: It is. Mind you, when you remove something a meta-package (like ubuntustudio-desktop) depends on, you'll lose automatic updates that normally belong to the default installation setup. But it's not a problem, really. Everything can be installed back if you want to. [13:05] of course [13:05] And by automatic updates here I mean new features that are marked with the meta-package. But this late into the cycle, there won't be any. [13:06] someone told me here that there was a plan to install apps by option thru usc [13:06] Ok, I'm gonna head back to sauna now. Just realised sitting there I left out some links from the email to the list. [13:07] Yeah I don't know when we get to that. [13:07] Maybe during the next cycle. [13:07] Talk to you later, have fun with precise! :) [13:07] thanks astraljava [19:07] is anyone testing firewire sound cards in 12.04? I couldn't get jack to start with my saffire pro24 (supported by ffado) [20:33] thebishop: works live with my presonus firepod [20:33] try gksudo qjackctl [20:33] holstein, hmm. well, i'd rather not run as root, but i did try it. permissions don't seem to be the problem. i'm wondering if realtime prio is configured properly [20:34] studio gets permissions right. i have read/write to /dev/fw1 via the audio group [20:35] thebishop: im suggesting as a troubleshooting step [20:35] thebishop: if it runs, you know its permissions related [20:36] holstein, sure. i did try it. I'm running jackd -d firewire -p 256 -n 2 -r 48000 [20:36] as root or not [20:36] i dont run JACK as root, but its one of the first things i do to troubleshoot [20:36] thebishop: if you would, run "gksudo qjackctl" [20:36] try the firewire driver, see if it runs [20:36] firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads [20:36] that works for me from the LIVE CD [20:37] thebishop: has it worked in the past? [20:37] is the kernel seeing the firewire controller? [20:37] holstein, yes to both [20:37] although i've had to build jack and ffado from svn [20:37] thebishop: try from the live CD [20:37] i'll do that [20:38] on the stock stuff.. just to be sure