[12:40] <scriptwarlock> ping anyone
[12:55] <astraljava> scriptwarlock: pong
[12:56] <scriptwarlock> you using ustudio?
[12:57] <astraljava> I sure am.
[12:58] <astraljava> precise, though.
[13:00] <scriptwarlock> what advantage do we have on rtkernel over the standard kernel ubuntu uses?
[13:00] <astraljava> We don't have an rt-kernel. Oneiric (and prior all the way up to I can't recall which release) used the same the vanilla used. But for precise, there's going to be a -lowlatency kernel.
[13:01] <scriptwarlock> what does that mean astraljava?
[13:01] <astraljava> But I'm not the guy to answer the pros and cons about kernels. I get the basic idea, which is quite obvious from the name already, ie. lowering the latency of the system.
[13:02] <scriptwarlock> this is my first time to use ustudio and was very delighted
[13:02] <scriptwarlock> although i was used now to unity and this release is xfcw
[13:02] <astraljava> People have been testing this new kernel, and from their reports I can concoct that it's going to be awesome for the majority of audio creators. For others, I'm not sure whether they benefit from it at all.
[13:02] <scriptwarlock> xfce
[13:03] <astraljava> Yeah, the switch was done for oneiric already, but now it got polished a little bit further.
[13:03] <astraljava> IMHO, this is one of the most solid releases we've done thus far.
[13:03] <astraljava> I hope others will feel the same when they get to use it.
[13:04] <scriptwarlock> i have ustudio precise on vmware and was very happy although a lot of apps that i dont need really is it safe to remove some of this?
[13:05] <astraljava> scriptwarlock: It is. Mind you, when you remove something a meta-package (like ubuntustudio-desktop) depends on, you'll lose automatic updates that normally belong to the default installation setup. But it's not a problem, really. Everything can be installed back if you want to.
[13:05] <scriptwarlock> of course
[13:05] <astraljava> And by automatic updates here I mean new features that are marked with the meta-package. But this late into the cycle, there won't be any.
[13:06] <scriptwarlock> someone told me here that there was a plan to install apps by option thru usc
[13:06] <astraljava> Ok, I'm gonna head back to sauna now. Just realised sitting there I left out some links from the email to the list.
[13:07] <astraljava> Yeah I don't know when we get to that.
[13:07] <astraljava> Maybe during the next cycle.
[13:07] <astraljava> Talk to you later, have fun with precise! :)
[13:07] <scriptwarlock> thanks astraljava
[19:07] <thebishop> is anyone testing firewire sound cards in 12.04?  I couldn't get jack to start with my saffire pro24  (supported by ffado)
[20:33] <holstein> thebishop: works live with my presonus firepod
[20:33] <holstein> try gksudo qjackctl
[20:33] <thebishop> holstein, hmm.  well, i'd rather not run as root, but i did try it.  permissions don't seem to be the problem.  i'm wondering if realtime prio is configured properly
[20:34] <thebishop> studio gets permissions right.  i have read/write to /dev/fw1 via the audio group
[20:35] <holstein> thebishop: im suggesting as a troubleshooting step
[20:35] <holstein> thebishop: if it runs, you know its permissions related
[20:36] <thebishop> holstein, sure.  i did try it.  I'm running jackd -d firewire -p 256 -n 2 -r 48000
[20:36] <thebishop> as root or not
[20:36] <holstein> i dont run JACK as root, but its one of the first things i do to troubleshoot
[20:36] <holstein> thebishop: if you would, run "gksudo qjackctl"
[20:36] <holstein> try the firewire driver, see if it runs
[20:36] <thebishop> firewire ERR: Could not start streaming threads
[20:36] <holstein> that works for me from the LIVE CD
[20:37] <holstein> thebishop: has it worked in the past?
[20:37] <holstein> is the kernel seeing the firewire controller?
[20:37] <thebishop> holstein, yes to both
[20:37] <thebishop> although i've had to build jack and ffado from svn
[20:37] <holstein> thebishop: try from the live CD
[20:37] <thebishop> i'll do that
[20:38] <holstein> on the stock stuff.. just to be sure