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GH3I attempted to roll back the changes, but I still can't initiate a kdm session: http://pastebin.com/X5xXkxZ500:04
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tuxman_hi all00:21
tuxman_chromium buttons00:22
tuxman_it do not show00:22
tuxman_min/restore/close buttons00:23
GH3Would anyone be able to help me get my KDE environment working/running again? I rolled back and am still unable to get a desktop environment that loads after logging in.00:28
chachanGH3: create a new user and check whether or not it is happening...00:39
GH3It is happening on all users. But, I got it fixed.00:45
GH3Now I just need to fix my Iptables commands that were somehow wiped out when I did the dist-upgrade and the purge commands to roll back.00:46
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Guest7616!hate01:24
LinkmasterGuest7616: ?01:26
Guest7616i was trying to test the bot01:26
Guest7616if there is any...01:26
Guest7616i've seen one before in this channel01:26
Unit193Just died, actually.01:27
Guest7616sad news01:27
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billytwowillyany chance 12.04 is released for the weekend?03:48
billytwowillynope...03:50
chachanand waiting for the new release to format my PC, I'm with this OS (upgrading it) since 10.0403:55
chachanand the performance isn't the same =/03:56
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lenIt seems like Blue Systems interest is in all things KDE, and that is why they decided to sponser Kubuntu.  In fact they were already sponsering some Kubuntu derivatives, so it makes sense they've have an interest in the health of Kubuntu itself.04:34
lenIn case anyone is   confused, it looks like I was responding to some posts from many, many hours ago.04:36
zorobabelwhat is Blue Systems?05:23
mr-richzorobabel: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=%22blue+systems%2205:53
Tm_Tmr-rich: lmgtfy is considered rude here, so please don't use it05:56
mr-richrude? why?05:57
Tm_Tpeople ask here to get help, not to get told "google it"05:57
Tm_T(we can continue this discussion in -offtopic or some other more suitable place if you want)05:58
zorobabelcan't Google anyway here06:00
mr-richNo discusssion needed save to say this: A) zorobabel's question was not a help question and B) The link I provided will give him the information he is seeking. If had been an actual question I could have answered, I would have done so ...06:02
mr-richzorobabel: Work computer?06:03
zorobabelyes06:03
zorobabelI was just curious and didn't intend to start some kind of argument, no answer was necessary for that matter06:03
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mr-richso, your work computer lets you on IRC, but won't let you google? ... strange ... my work computer (thin client) is the oposite ...06:06
zorobabelit's actually the work internet connection06:07
zorobabelI don't know if it's deliberate or just typically terrible Indonesian internet, but at work I cannot access Google, Yahoo, and various other major sites06:07
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mr-richzorobabel: what about duckduckgo?06:08
GirlyGirlzorobabel: Try changing the dns to "8.8.8.8" and "8.8.4.4" (Google public dns)06:09
zorobabelduckduckgo works06:11
mr-richtry "blue systems" in duckduckgo or just go to www.bluesystems.com if you can ...06:14
GirlyGirlzorobabel: What happens when you ping google and the rest?06:18
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Riddellbkerensa: pong07:06
DaskreechRiddell: Don't you hate contentless pings?07:19
RiddellDaskreech: I prefer to void hatred, it suggests something isn't understood07:23
DaskreechRiddell: don't you $(/dev/null) contentless pings ?07:28
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lenWow!  What a turn around.  The future is really starting to look bright for Kubuntu.  Blue System has just upped the ante to sponsoring TWO full-time Kubuntu developers!   Looks like Kubuntu is going to start receiving more love than it ever got during its Canonical days.08:06
lenhttp://agateau.com/2012/04/11/into-the-blue/08:06
lenThe long dark days of second class citizenship seem to be over.08:07
lenI guess sometimes dark clouds really do have silver linings.08:08
GirlyGirllen: Don't expect much changes so soon08:09
lenI've not looking for any big changes.  Just want Kubuntu to track KDE proper has closely as possible with really good, clean, stable implementations.08:13
lenand it looks like they'll have the resources to do so.08:14
lenI got fed up because it lookes like Mark never wanted Kubuntu to succeed, growing to the point of seeming like he was actively undermining it, and worried that it's success was a threat to his "vision."08:19
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lenFuture is starting to look better for KDE too now that all the growing pains from the 3 -> 4 transition are over (4.8.2 is really nice and has even tamed the neopmuk beast), the gnome project is self-destructing, and Microsoft seems determined to follow them down the same road with their metro interface.08:27
DaskreechMetro will probably save Microsoft08:28
Daskreech but I expect Windows 8 to be met with trepidation08:28
DaskreechBut Hooray Blue Systems ! :)08:28
lenI don't know many people who want to pretend their 22" desktop monitor is a 10" touch screen.08:29
lenPeople wouldn't be fleeing Unity and gnome 3 if that were the case.08:29
lordievaderI'm not sure if Metro will save Microsoft, for a tablet it is good, but for a desktop?08:30
GirlyGirlDaskreech: Microsoft isn't stupid they know that the competition to WIndows 8 will not be Linux but actually Windows 7. Just like xp was for vista08:31
GirlyGirlSo its a win win situation08:31
lenOh yeah, Microsoft has only produced, Windows ME, BOB, and Vista.  They don't put out any pure flops :)08:32
DaskreechGirlyGirl: Yes which is why I expect Windows 8 will have some trepidation. In any case nothing that MS has done has affected me in about 5 years08:32
* jussi reminds peoples this discussion would be better suited to #kubuntu-offtopic :)08:32
DaskreechOther than having people call me because Vista sucks08:32
GirlyGirljussi: True but #kubuntu-devel is always dead. And given that #kubuntu has less traffic than #ubuntu I don't see a reason to have a #kubuntu-offtopic08:33
GirlyGirledit: #-offtopic not devel lol08:33
Tm_TGirlyGirl: still08:33
DaskreechGirlyGirl: policy (which I suppose after April we don't have to live by \o/)08:34
Tm_TDaskreech: huh?08:34
DaskreechTm_T: We'd be like fluxbuntu08:34
jussino, like Xubuntu08:34
Tm_T^08:34
Tm_Tstatus of Kubuntu isn't changing really08:34
jussianyways, -> #kubuntu-offtopic08:35
lenI always find it amuzing when people get picky about the specifics of conversation when the alternative is usually hours and hours and hours of dead air.  It's not like most of freenode rooms have traffic problems :)08:35
Daskreechlen: Yes but it does hurt people looking for help08:37
GirlyGirlI understand why #ubuntu is support only. But #kubuntu should be both in my opinion. Actually #ubuntu-uk has more traffic than here and people use it for offtopic and support08:39
Tm_TGirlyGirl: this is wrong place to discuss this (so let's stop the offtopic here) (:08:40
lenI don't think so.  I don't see an ongoing conversation as stopping people from stopping to help people coming in with problems.  On the contrary, they'll actually see signs of life and not think it's a dead room with lots off people showing up on the list but everyone away from their computer.08:40
Tm_Tlen: see my previous comment (:08:41
lenWell, I disagree, and think that some people just like rule for the sake of rules.  Have it your way.  Enjoy the beautiful sound of dead air.08:43
Daskreechlen: Pretty good discussion in -offtopic btw08:45
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orangblumehelloooo09:37
orangblumehellooo09:37
orangblumei was in ubuntu channel but the others there wont help me09:37
orangblumecan you help  me09:37
GirlyGirlorangblume: Depends on the problem09:42
orangblumewell09:44
orangblumei never used linux before09:44
orangblumenow i use it but i miss arial and times new roman09:44
orangblume!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:44
orangblumebut where to get???09:44
Riddellorangblume: install ttf-mscorefonts-installer09:45
orangblumeoh thanks peopleeeeeeeeeeeeee09:46
orangblumeyou are  so good to me09:46
orangblumeand always help me09:46
orangblumei have next question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:46
GirlyGirlorangblume: Or you can install fonts in system settings from a windows partition "C:/Windows/Fonts"09:46
orangblumesshould i grap 32 or 64bit??????????????????????????????????????????09:46
GirlyGirlorangblume: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?09:46
orangblumewhy is that important09:47
GirlyGirlorangblume: Read the topic . Because if not using Kubuntu you should be in #ubuntu not here09:47
orangblumeOH SHIT09:48
orangblumei read09:48
orangblumekubuntu will stopped09:48
orangblumeafter 12.0409:48
GirlyGirl!ops09:48
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, apachelogger, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger09:48
orangblumewhy 12.04 stopped?!!!!09:49
orangblumei want to continue using it09:49
Mamarokorangblume: please behave!09:50
orangblumewhat did i do ?!?! mamarok09:50
Mamarokorangblume: you should avoid multiple exclamation marks09:51
orangblumeok09:51
Mamarokjust write normal English09:51
MamarokGirlyGirl: please do not make unnecesary ops calls09:51
Mamarokorangblume: no shouting, no swearing, keep this channel family friendly09:52
orangblumeyes is okay09:52
orangblumei have a quuestion is there a ubuntu12,04 RC09:52
orangblumeor  only beta 209:53
Mamarokfor now it is beta 2, you can read that on the website: http://kubuntu.org09:53
Mamarokkeep that in eye for more information09:53
Daskreechorangblume: Beta 209:54
Mamarokorangblume: and if you are not using KDE, then you should ask your questions in #ubuntu09:55
orangblumenobody said thati   do not use KUBUNTU09:55
Mamarokalso 12.04 questions should go to #ubuntu+1, and please behave there as well09:55
mmc2I have a question about software uninstall in kubuntu 11.1009:56
Daskreechorangblume: You can Use kubuntu if you like09:56
Daskreechmmc2: Go09:56
orangblumemmc2 using 11.10?!09:57
mmc2yes09:57
Tm_Torangblume: calm down09:57
orangblumeoh 11.10 i hate09:57
Mamarokorangblume: this is a support channel, please stay quiet if you are not involved09:57
orangblumeplease use 10.10 or 10.04 or 11.0409:57
orangblumeor 12.0409:57
Mamarokorangblume: stop this, please09:57
Mamarokthis is not support what you are doing09:58
mmc2 orangeblume: I'm looking for a solution so please...09:58
orangblumei wanted to help09:58
orangblumebuut i need to get a chance09:58
orangblume^^09:58
Tm_Torangblume: that is not helping, so please stop, behave, calm down, and then try again09:58
orangblumeok09:59
GirlyGirlmmc2: Use muon to unistall software or apt-get in command line09:59
orangblumemmc2: ask please09:59
Daskreechmmc2: What is your issue?09:59
GirlyGirlmmc2: You can search for muon in the KDE menu09:59
mmc2I've uninstalled postgres and pgadm3, had some setting up issues so uninstalled them through terminal09:59
GirlyGirlmmc2: and ....09:59
mmc2I dont see them any more in muon09:59
mmc2which is OK10:00
GirlyGirl!enter | mmc210:00
ubottummc2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:00
mmc2but I still have them in kmenu10:00
GirlyGirlmmc2: Does it launch from kmenu?10:00
mmc2yes it does10:00
GirlyGirlmmc2: What command did you use to unistall?10:01
mmc2sudo apt-get --purge remove10:01
Daskreechmmc2: for which packages?10:02
mmc2there were 3 packages for postgres10:02
mmc2and 1 for pgadmin310:03
Daskreechyes could you give the package names ?10:04
mmc2sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql-9.1 postgresql-client-9.1 postgresql-client-common postgresql-common10:04
mmc2i did that after dpkg -l | grep postgres10:04
Daskreechmmc2: could you run sudo apt-get autoremove --purge10:05
DaskreechOr don't use the --purge10:05
DaskreechI dont know the state of your packages10:05
mmc2Reading package lists... Done10:06
mmc2Building dependency tree10:06
mmc2Reading state information... Done10:06
mmc20 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:06
Daskreechmmc2: if you type postgr and press tab twice do you get a response ?10:07
mmc2where do I type it10:07
mmc2terminal?10:07
GirlyGirlmmc2: yes10:08
mmc2nothing happens10:08
DaskreechHmm10:09
DaskreechSo what is running when you click in menu ?10:09
DaskreechKmenu10:09
mmc2I still have postgres and pgadmin under applications i kmenu and can run it10:10
mmc2in kmenu10:10
DaskreechWhat do you see when you run it?10:10
mmc2it starts the software10:11
DaskreechHmm10:11
Mamarokthat makes no sense10:11
Daskreechcan you press alt+f2 and type kmenuedit10:11
mmc2I'd give you, if you want a teamviewer pass and check it out for yourself10:11
mmc2yes and10:12
Daskreechno need as yet just trying to figure out if you have locally manual installed packages10:12
DaskreechOk find the entry for postgres and see what target it's running10:12
mmc2is this what you are looking for /opt/PostgreSQL/8.3/scripts/launchpgadmin.sh10:14
Daskreechmmc2: That's what I thought. you or someone using the computer installed Postgresql from the website10:15
DaskreechIt was intaled manually so it should be removed manually10:15
mmc2ok, how do I do it10:15
Daskreechmmc2: would depend on how it was installed So look at the documentation in /opt/PostgreSQL10:16
mmc2ok, any other suggestions10:16
DaskreechI could say rm -r /opt/PostgreSQL but that would be irresponsible of me :)10:17
mmc2:) thanks10:17
Daskreechmmc2: There will probably be a README file in the directory or a uninstall script10:18
Daskreechthat would be a better path if you want to run the equivalent of a --purge10:18
mmc2i found the uninstall script, what can i do with it10:18
Daskreechmmc2: did you just see it or did you read something that pointed you to it?10:19
mmc2well, I'm looking at it right now10:20
Daskreechmmc2: so you just saw it ? :) ok Cd into the directory that it exists in10:20
Daskreechmmc2: is it called uninstall ?10:22
Daskreechor uninstall.sh or something ?10:23
mmc2ok, I'm there, its called uninstall-postgresql10:23
Daskreechmmc2: alright try ./uninstall-postgresql --help10:26
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mmc2it gives me this: Usage:10:27
mmc2 --help                         Display the list of valid options10:27
mmc2 --version                      Display product information10:27
mmc2 --unattendedmodeui <unattendedmodeui> Unattended Mode UI10:27
mmc2                                Default: none10:27
mmc2                                Allowed: none minimal minimalWithDialogs10:27
mmc2 --debuglevel <debuglevel>      Debug information level of verbosity10:27
mmc2                                Default: 210:28
mmc2                                Allowed: 0 1 2 3 410:28
mmc2 --mode <mode>                  Installation mode10:28
mmc2                                Default: qt10:28
mmc2                                Allowed: qt gtk xwindow text unattended10:28
mmc2 --debugtrace <debugtrace>      Debug filename10:28
mmc2                                Default:10:28
mmc2 --installer-language <installer-language> Language selection10:28
mmc2                                Default: en10:28
mmc2                                Allowed: en10:28
DaskreechPaste bin next time pleae10:28
Daskreechplease10:28
mmc2ok, sorry10:28
Daskreechmmc2: ok try ./uninstall-postgresql10:29
mmc2poped out a uninstall window, thanks a lot10:30
DaskreechOK10:30
DaskreechEnjoy :)10:30
mmc2just one more, queestion10:30
Daskreechyes10:31
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mmc2if I install manually I have to uninstall manually10:31
Daskreechmmc2: correct10:31
DaskreechIn a general sense10:31
mmc2thanks a lot again10:31
GirlyGirlHelenB: Did you get your theme issue sorted out?10:32
DaskreechYou can install manually but through the packaging system (a .deb file) that you don't need to uninstall manually but in general yes you do10:32
HelenBGirlyGirl, no not yet.10:32
HelenBalthough I prefer KDE to gnome. :310:32
HelenBGirlyGirl, I have a nice plastic theme. :310:35
GirlyGirlHelenB: Plastique was the old theme in KDE 3x but if it suits you its fine.10:36
HelenBGirlyGirl, It's called Plastik and it's still there! :310:37
GirlyGirlI know its a kde 4 port10:38
GirlyGirlIt uses less resources too so if you like the look then good for you10:38
HelenBGirlyGirl, All the geeks at college tend to be noobs10:44
HelenBand last time I showed them a KDE desktop10:44
HelenBthey said "That's Windows 7"10:44
HelenBso I said "No it's NOT it's KDE!"10:45
HelenBand they went10:45
HelenBNo it's not it's Windows 710:45
HelenBso I started showing them the difference between Windows 7 and my screenshot10:45
HelenBand they were STILL convinced it was Windows 7!10:45
HelenBlol10:45
xuelangai10:47
Daskreechhi10:47
HelenBGirlyGirl, Hardly anyone at college have used Linux. lol10:49
HelenBHardly anyone in England have used Linux.10:50
HelenBsorry for being offtopic10:50
HelenBI'll shut up now. lol10:50
HelenBGirlyGirl, Just respond to me in the offtopic channel if you want to I joined.10:52
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BluesKajHiyas all12:16
stephan_my kio_smb and kio_ftp is broken after a recent update12:38
stephan_is there a logfile whrere i can see what's going on?12:39
avihayshould be12:39
martinalexis there another application but dia which i could use to draw electronic circuits?12:40
martinalexi found xcircuit but didnt understand its interface...12:40
BluesKajstephan_, look in /var/log12:41
stephan_BluesKaj: but which file there?12:43
stephan_which package is kio_smb?12:46
BluesKajstephan_, look for smb , doubt that kio is menntioned12:47
BluesKajstephan_, actually look in syslog . it will be the latest12:50
stephan_syslog is silent, is see the processes in "System Activity"12:52
stephan_i have 20-30 kio_smb processes12:52
stephan_found the problem13:02
stephan_you have to exit dolphin before rebooting13:02
stephan_otherwise the smb login window is swallowed on restart13:03
stephan_and all io slaves ar blocked13:03
stephan_there is no way to find the login window after the inital lost13:04
ManDayHow do I switch plasma from the ordinary to the netbook workspace?13:41
GirlyGirl_ManDay: System settings, workspace settings13:42
GirlyGirl_ManDay: then workspace, workspace type = desktop13:43
Zaken7hey !13:47
lordievaderHello14:05
lordievaderCould someone assist me in fixing a problem I have with my Soundblaster?14:06
GirlyGirl_!question | lordievader14:08
ubottulordievader: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:08
BluesKajhi lordievader . what's the problem ?14:08
lordievaderThe problem is this, my soundblaster does not have any output anymore, in kmix everything is set right. The strange thing is, earlier it worked fine...14:09
GirlyGirl_lordievader: provide a screenshot of "alsamixer" in terminal14:12
BluesKajlordievader, open alsamixer in the terminal ...it has more options for controlling your sound iputs and outputs than kmix , and make sure you don't have any relavent ctrls Muted (MM) or turned way down14:12
lordievaderGirlyGirl, hold on, I just removed the card in the hope that booting it without and then reinstalling it would fix it.14:13
lordievaderJust a minute14:13
GirlyGirl_!paste14:16
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:16
GirlyGirl_lordievader: Did you provided the screenshot ... sorry I got disconnected14:19
lordievaderGirlyGirl, still in the process of removing and reinserting the card...14:20
lordievaderMy pc isn't fast like those newer ones :P14:20
GirlyGirl_lordievader: I have a 2009 netbook here and its fast enough to do a lot of things except gaming14:21
lordievaderOk well that didn't work, Ill get you a screencap of alsamixer14:22
GirlyGirl_lordievader: use  http://imagebin.org/?page=add14:23
lordievaderGirlyGirl, here you go: http://imagebin.org/20772314:24
GirlyGirl_lordievader: Seems good, did you install anything lately?14:25
lordievaderGirlyGirl, No, not that I can remember.14:25
GirlyGirl_lordievader: Also System Settings > Multimedia > Phonon .. press the test button and see if an error message pops up14:26
lordievaderGirlyGirl, btw the pulseaudio volume meter does show that there is output, just that I do not hear anything.14:26
lordievaderGirlyGirl, the test button does not give error, nor do I hear anything.14:27
GirlyGirl_lordievader: install pavucontrol14:27
lordievaderGirlyGirl, already done that, that does show there is/should be output14:28
GirlyGirl_lordievader: Stupid question but are your speakers working?14:28
lordievaderMy headphone is indeed working, and so is the soundcard itself. In windows everything works fine.14:29
AceKingHow do I get the grub menu to show when I startup?14:30
BluesKajlordievader, how many devices are shown in phonon>device preference , and if there are more than one depeding on the output type spdif or analog check/test the one that applies to your output14:31
GirlyGirl_AceKing: press esc14:31
AceKingGirlyGirl_: Thank you!14:31
GirlyGirl_Is there an easy way to convert an html5 webap into a plasmoid ... in this case html5.grooveshark.com14:32
lordievaderBluesKaj, there are more, and yes I have clicked the soundblaster stereo one, all other soundblaster ones are grayed out.14:33
lordievaderBluesKaj, hmm I see now that there are two listings of CA0106 Soundblaster Analogue Stereo, one grayed out one not...14:34
GirlyGirl_lordievader: Did you ever get a message on login asking whether kde should forget about some sound devices?14:34
BluesKajlordievader, can you pastebin a scrnshot of the device preference14:35
lordievaderYeah after disabling the onboard one14:35
BluesKajahh, ok your also config file is probly still listing the onboard as default14:36
BluesKajalsa config14:36
lordievaderBluesKaj, http://imagebin.org/20772514:36
lordievaderBluesKaj, that is not the case, even when I move, clementine in this case, the audio output to the right card I still don't hear anything.14:37
BluesKajlordievader, cat /proc/asound/modules14:43
HelenBI need a screen recorder.14:43
HelenBnon of them work right.14:43
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lordievaderBluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/926504/14:44
GirlyGirl_HelenB: What problems do you have with recorditnow14:45
HelenBGirlyGirl, When I open the ogv file in VLC14:46
HelenBit doesn't play14:46
HelenBand it doesn't give any error14:46
BluesKajlordievader, sudo modprobe snd_ca010614:47
lordievaderBluesKaj, this command doesn't return anything, should it?14:48
GirlyGirl_HelenB: Try kazam14:48
stanley_robertsohi all14:49
BluesKajlordievader, no it shouldn't14:49
HelenBGirlyGirl, How do I install it?14:49
HelenBwhat is it's package name?14:49
GirlyGirl_HelenB: apt-get install14:50
HelenBI know14:50
HelenBbut it can't be found.14:50
GirlyGirl_HelenB: Maybe its only in precise14:51
GirlyGirl_HelenB: brb14:51
HelenBkay14:51
HelenB:(14:51
HelenBHow do I upgrade to beta 2 precise?14:52
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BluesKajlordievader, open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and copy and paste this line at the bottom of the page,  options snd_ca0106 index=015:06
BluesKajlordievader, use root permissions when opening that file15:06
lordievaderBluesKaj, and then a reboot?15:07
BluesKajlordievader, that line makes you soundblaster driver/card the default15:07
BluesKajyou can reboot , or run sudo alsa -force reload15:08
lordievaderBluesKaj, Im afraid to say that didn't fix it...15:10
BluesKajwhat didn't fix it ..the reload ?15:11
BluesKajthem reboot15:11
lordievaderyes15:11
BluesKajthen15:11
BluesKajreload doesn't always work for some reason15:12
lordievaderAnd here it didn't either, now rebooting.15:12
BluesKajlordievader, after rebooting , check your phonon device preferences again to make sure you chosen device tests ok .15:14
lordievaderBluesKaj, nope still nothing...15:16
BluesKajlordievader, did you see my post above?15:16
BluesKajabout phonon prewferences?15:17
lordievaderabout the chosen device? Yes, I dont hear anything15:17
BluesKajare there any other choices ?15:17
lordievaderBluesKaj, No, but I must say in the hardware setup I turned the others off15:18
GirlyGirl_HelenB: Since your system isn't exactly clean don't you want to remove ubuntu packages before upgrading or do a fresh install?15:18
BluesKajlordievader, do you mean the intel hda15:19
lordievaderBluesKaj, No, the internal audio (a realtek chip) and the hdmi out of my videocard.15:19
BluesKajlordievader, also in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ,make sure no other snd drivers are index=0 , the snd_ca0106 should be the only defaalt , give the intel an index=-115:22
lordievaderBluesKaj, all others got a index=-215:23
BluesKajyour modules show intel hda15:23
BluesKajyeah ok =-2 if you want15:23
lordievaderBluesKaj, odd, I do not, for as far as I know, have an inter soundcard.15:24
lordievaderintel*15:24
GirlyGirl_lordievader: A lot of sound card made by other companies have an Intel audio chip inside and identify as Intel15:26
GirlyGirl_lordievader: e.g realtek15:26
lordievaderGirlyGirl, Ah, I see15:27
lordievaderThat explains it15:27
BluesKajyes lordievader , you can check by running cat /proc/asound/modules again to see which is "card 0"15:29
lordievadersnd_ca0106 is the first listed (0)15:30
BluesKajok then you must have somethingelse interfering , unless you need pulseaudio for that card which could be the case if it's a pci card15:31
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BluesKajlordievader, suso apt-get install pulseaudio15:31
BluesKajsudo of course :)15:32
lordievaderBluesKaj, it is already installed.15:32
BluesKaj isort of assumed it was already installed15:32
BluesKajok install pavucontrol15:32
maria_How can I tell if my kubuntu installed version is 32 bit or 64 bit?15:32
GirlyGirlmaria_: uname -a15:33
lordievaderBluesKaj, done so already :)15:33
maria_GirlyGirl: Thanks15:33
BluesKajcheck your connections to the card , lordievader15:33
lordievaderBluesKaj, they are good, in windows it works...15:34
BluesKajwhich soundblaster card model#15:35
BluesKajwonder if we have the right driver15:35
lordievaderBluesKaj, phew an Audigy 2 LE? From the top of my head.15:35
lordievaderIt did work before, a few days ago.15:35
lordievaderBluesKaj, perhaps this is usefull when running phonon from the terminal and going to the hardware setup and clicking front left, in the terminal a message shows: Unkown PCM 215:38
BluesKajlordievader, what kind of connection, spdif digital pcm or analog ?15:40
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lordievaderBluesKaj, just analog15:40
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BluesKajlordievader, ok , this will give us the active default card, sudo aplay -l15:41
lordievaderBluesKaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/926600/15:42
BluesKajI suspect the wrong soundblaster driver is installed15:42
lordievaderCould very well be, someone on a forum suggested to reinitialize alsa: I got this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/926601/15:43
BluesKajlordievader, you should really take some time to find out the the card's actual model # ...suspect the diver is wrong , especially if it's the Audigy series15:47
lordievaderBut first it did work, with the same driver I believe.15:47
GirlyGirllordievader: If you plan to update to precise on the 26th with a fresh install it might be wiser to not waste time on this now15:48
lordievaderGirlyGirl, perhaps you are right, thank you for your effort. BluesKaj thank you for your effort.15:49
GirlyGirllordievader: Also check settings in this tab in System Settings http://imagebin.org/20773015:52
BluesKajlordievader, the Audigy series soundcards are more difficult to setup , but check your pavucontrol to make sure your outputs and device selections are correct , first15:52
lordievaderThank you, it does all seem to be setup right... We'll just see if it will work in 1215:55
lordievader12.04 if it is released...15:55
BluesKaji still suspect the wrong driver for your card15:55
lordievaderBluesKaj, but then why would the system one day decide to load a wrong driver?15:56
GirlyGirllordievader: Try "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio" then "rm -rf .pulse" then "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio" , reboot15:58
BluesKajlordievader, dunno why it happens but I have seen this with pci soundcards before .. the wrong driver is somehow applied by the kernal module16:01
GirlyGirlBluesKaj: If that is the case simply check the logs and see if a different driver is being loaded16:02
GirlyGirllordievader: Try those commands, if that fails when I had a similar problem with a pci card , I unplugged the pci card, booted Kubuntu, told kde to forget about the device, then plugged the card back and it worked16:04
lordievaderGirlyGirl, I have already tried the unplugging trick, it failed...16:04
BluesKajlordievader, have you updated / upgraded since installing the card?16:06
lordievaderBluesKaj, what do you mean?16:06
lordievaderThe card has been in there since the fresh install... or do you mean the unplug trick?16:06
BluesKajperhaps there module updates for the driver16:07
BluesKajsome of the newer kernels might have a an updated kernel source driver16:08
GirlyGirllordievader: Did you try "rm -rf .pulse" then "killall pulseaudio"16:08
BluesKajmaybe that old trick will , GirlyGirl , but I haven't seen it work in a while16:09
lordievaderBluesKaj, I tried booting into an earlier kernel, same problem. GirlyGirl I'm now rebooting with a fresh install of pulseaudio, after deleting the folder.16:09
BluesKajok ..bbl , things to do for a few mins16:10
maria_Everytime I open up File Manager, I get this message: Configuration file "/home/maria/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc" not writable. Please contact your system administrator. Is there a way to fix this?16:12
GirlyGirl maria_Probably bad permissions, did you ever do "sudo dolphin" instead of "kdesudo dolhin"?16:13
maria_GirlyGirl: Yes, I did Sudo Dolphin16:14
GirlyGirlmaria_: Avoid using sudo for kde applications! It uses config files of your user instead of the root ones16:15
GirlyGirlmaria_: Change the permissions of the dolhinrc file to your user16:16
maria_GirlyGirl: Ok, so I should use kdesudo instead when I need to?16:16
GirlyGirlmaria_: yes16:16
maria_GirlyGirl: Is there a way to fix my screwup?16:16
GirlyGirlmaria_: If you don't want to change the file permission and don't mind setting dolphin to default settings, do "rm /home/maria/.kde/share/config/dolphinrc"16:17
lordievaderHmm the reinstall of pulse didn't fix it... I guess I'll have to switch to my onboard card then... too bad :(16:17
maria_GirlyGirl: Thank you!16:17
GirlyGirllordievader: until precise possibly unless it doesn't work there16:17
lordievaderThat would be strange, until a few days ago it did work in (k)ubuntu16:18
GirlyGirllordievader: Did it stop after an update?16:18
GirlyGirllordievader: Normally if pulse detects the playback, it should work!16:18
lordievaderIm not really sure when it stopped.16:18
maria_GirlyGirl: That worked! You are the best, and thank you for explaining the correct command to use.16:19
lordievaderGirlyGirl, that's what I'd say, yet nothing is to be heard.16:19
GirlyGirllordievader: Or maybe you can just remove pulseaudio and reboot, it should then use alsa ... if it still doesn't work its probably a bad driver16:19
lordievaderI'll just wait for 12.04, but thanks for the help :)16:20
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Mamaroklordievader: do you have pavucontrol installed?16:26
lordievaderMamarok, Yes16:26
lordievaderMamarok, shows it all playing, and everything is all right, just that nothing is heard...16:27
Mamarokand it outputs to the correct device?16:27
Mamaroknothing muted in Alsa or KMix?16:27
lordievaderMamarok, nope.16:27
Mamarokmight be indeed a driver problem, then. Did that card work before?16:28
lordievaderMamarok, jup it did.16:28
Mamarokjust let me read all the backlog, moment16:28
lordievaderMamarok, I'll just freshly install 12.04 and untill then use the onboard card...16:28
lordievaderGot to go, thanks for all the help :)16:32
doa需要安装老版本的gcc-2.95.2  哪位大牛有经验那16:35
BluesKaj!cn | doa16:35
ubottudoa: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw16:35
doasorry16:37
doai want wo install gcc-2.95.2, an old release of gcc16:37
doawho can help me?16:38
GirlyGirldoa: Why?16:38
doaI need the version to complile one kind of os kernel calles l4ka16:39
doaGirlyGirl: do you have any experience?16:39
GirlyGirldoa: Its a bad idea compiling non ubuntu kernels and using an old version of gcc so it is not recommended nor supported16:40
GirlyGirldoa: Why do you need another kernel?16:43
doal4ka is one kind of microkernel,      I am doing research on it16:44
GirlyGirldoa: But wait ... l4ka is not a linux kernel and won't work on ubuntu16:45
GirlyGirlSo you do not plan to use the kernel with ubuntu then?16:45
doabut the l4ka team recommand gcc-2.95.216:45
GirlyGirldoa: Use the binary formats here http://www.l4ka.org/154.php no need to compile16:46
GirlyGirldoa: Also the project seems dead16:46
GirlyGirldoa: It should compile with newer gcc to possibly16:47
doaGirlyGirl: maybe, but then?  any non ubuntu question  cannnot be asked here?16:47
GirlyGirldoa: it can ... like how to compile... I thought you wanted to replace ubuntu's kernel with l4ka16:48
doaGirlyGirl: I have tryed  ,but failed.  if i Use the binary formats,then i cannot  modify it16:48
GirlyGirldoa: Doesn't it compile with newer gcc versions?16:49
doaGirlyGirl:  for now ,I just want to do some research, maybe later i will do something for gnu/hurd16:50
GirlyGirldoa: Doesn't it compile with newer gcc versions?16:50
doahttp://www.l4ka.org/154.php 。at bottom, it says"To compile L4Ka you need gcc 2.95.2 and binutils 2.9.5"16:51
tsimpsondoa: that's the minimum you need, try with the current version of gcc and binutils16:53
tsimpsonyou won't get gcc 2.x unless you compile and install it yourself, which is not exactly trivial16:53
doafirst i should say sorry. my english is so so  I have some trouble in commulating with english16:53
HelenBGirlyGirl, I can't frehshly install and I've always upgraded the proper way. hmm16:54
GirlyGirldoa: Try #ubuntu-cn16:54
doaGirlyGirl: I have tryed the current version of gcc and binutils. but when I completed compile , one programme named roottask is missing.16:57
stanley_robertsohi all16:57
doathis is http://www.l4ka.org/120.php16:57
doathis is  about how to built and boot l4ka http://www.l4ka.org/120.php16:59
doano one  answer me on #ubutnu-cn16:59
doatsimpson: when I install by myself ,I have trouble17:03
doatsimpson: do you have any course about this?17:03
phoenix_firebrdNeed a video converter for converting videos to mp4 for mobile, i am using a 64 bit OS17:05
tsimpsondoa: sorry, I don't know enough about it to help17:07
doatsimpson: ok, thank you anyway17:09
wgosling'handbrake' was pretty good and straightforeward last i used it.17:10
phoenix_firebrdwgosling: is it in the repository ?17:10
wgoslingIt might be. I'm not on a kubuntu machine atm17:12
wgoslingI checked packages.ubuntu.com  and it appears that it is not!17:13
tsimpsonphoenix_firebrd: ffmpeg is pretty easy to use "ffmpeg -i input_file output_file.mp4"17:13
phoenix_firebrdtsimpson: i used the winff frontend its not working due to some codec problem17:14
phoenix_firebrdwgosling:  i am going to install from ppa17:14
phoenix_firebrdwgosling: handbrake doesnt have a ppa for 12.0417:18
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, if you don't mind using the cli , ffmpeg can convert the file to mp4 , just name the target file  .mp417:19
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: let me try17:19
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1839841/convert-a-video-to-mp4-h-264-aac-with-ffmpeg17:21
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, just an example ^17:21
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: that says h264 conversion is not possible due to patent issues17:22
AprogasUsing kde-config-grub2 (kcm-grub2) I am trying to change the colors of GRUB2 to green (in the appearance tab), yet GRUB2 stays lightblue. Other changes (e.g. resolution or default-boot) do get applied.17:23
AprogasMy color changes do get written to /etc/default/grub but I'm not sure whether GRUB reads that file.17:25
wgoslingHmm. Try running `sudo update-grub` and see if that fixes things. The kcm probably isn't running that (and it should, imo).17:26
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:27
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: already installed17:27
AprogasThe output of update-grub2 looks very similar to the Details-dropdown in the KCM after pressing Apply.17:28
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: going to try x26417:28
AprogasI still have the blue colors instead of green. I'm thinking maybe the colors only apply to text-mode, or some sort of theme is overriding them.17:29
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, mp4 is apple , you may have to convert to another codec that works on your mobile device17:30
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: vlc is providing x26417:31
BluesKajcool17:31
phoenix_firebrdya17:31
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, good to know , I haven't used vlc to convert in a while , I'll have to check it out17:31
BluesKajnot that i need to ..no smart phones , just plain cell phone here17:33
nimdaeдобрый вечер всем )17:34
Unit193!ru17:34
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:34
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: nice, i do use my phone for just calls, its for my friend. I don't want to get my eyes spoiled :)17:36
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AprogasApparently the blue background in GRUB is actually "/black" which means transparent. It's a different shade of blue than the GRUB colors blue/lightblue/cyan.17:58
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AprogasI'm thinking the 05-debian-theme file does not honour the colors in /etc/default/grub in most circumstances.18:00
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maria_I just added a second user on my PC running Kubuntu 11.10. Is there a way to have a drop down box so I don't have to type in the usernames everytime when signing in?18:22
AprogasIn System Settings > Login Screen there are options Show list and Autocompletion. They may be of use to you.18:26
maria_Aprogas: Thank you18:28
phoenix_firebrdmaria_: disable themed greeter and use dialog18:31
maria_phoenix_firebrd: OK, do I do that in system settings/login screen?18:32
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maria_phoenix_firebrd: I found it. So if I just uncheck the box it should work?18:34
ct529BluesKaj: yofel: Ping!18:41
yofelpong (somewhat, I'm rather busy right now)18:41
ct529I was wondering whether you used nvidia-current from the may rep or from x-swat rep18:43
yofelneither, I use nouveau18:43
yofelIn the past I used the one from x-updates though18:43
jalol19:31
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* ybit waves hello20:04
mydogsnameisrudyhello ybit20:09
HelenBMy dogs name us Rudy and he is very rude. :(20:12
mydogsnameisrudyyour dog is rude tooooo?20:12
* mydogsnameisrudy gets some icecream20:13
ybitjust be glad you have a dog, last one i had was ran over 5 times and attacked twice by larger dogs.. needless to say, he's not around20:13
* HelenB gets a bag and puts it over mydogsnameisrudy's head then cable ties it20:14
ybitaww :)20:14
ybithi martinphone20:14
martinphonehi ybit20:15
mydogsnameisrudyrudy is a redbone coon hound big enough to handle himself20:15
HelenBmydogsnameisrudy, Could he crush me?20:16
HelenBybit, You're doing something wrong if your dog was able to get run over 5 times.20:16
mydogsnameisrudycould yes , would he no he is to nice20:16
ybithah :D20:17
* HelenB thinks that ybit pushes his dog into the road before a car drives past20:17
HelenBtsimpson, Heeey! :320:19
tsimpsonhello20:19
HelenBtsimpson, What does the FloodBots do?20:19
HelenB:o20:19
tsimpsonit helps protect the channel from floods and some other "attacks"20:19
HelenBtsimpson, Please can I test it in my private channel?20:20
HelenBI really want to.20:20
tsimpsonsorry, the code isn't available yet20:20
HelenBno I mean...20:20
HelenByou join a bot20:20
tsimpsonthey only operate in one channel20:21
HelenB:(20:21
HelenBWhen is the code available?20:21
HelenB:o20:21
GirlyGirlHelenB: tomorrow never comes20:21
tsimpsonthere is no time line for it, but it's in the process of being open-sourced20:21
HelenBYES! :D20:21
HelenBAtleast I know it will be open source.20:22
HelenBtsimpson, What is it wrote in?20:22
tsimpsonPHP20:22
HelenBand hello GirlyGirl! :320:22
HelenBtsimpson, EXCELLIENT!20:22
tsimpsonwow, someone who likes to program applications in PHP, you are a rare breed20:23
* GirlyGirl always thought the bots were python based20:25
BluesKajsnake bots20:25
HelenBGirlyGirl, Python is just as powerful20:26
HelenBerm20:26
HelenBPHP sorry20:26
HelenBtsimpson, I sent you an invite. :320:26
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ybitwhat's the process of configuring all your connections to go through a local proxy?20:52
ybiti'm guessing it has to do something with this screen and maybe something else http://image.bayimg.com/oaoanaada.jpg20:52
ybiti'm trying to configure all my traffic to go through tor20:58
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tsimpson!tor21:00
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl21:00
tsimpsonybit: see the above link21:00
ybittsimpson: installing and using isn't a problem21:02
ybiti'm wondering if by specifying a socks host i'm actually using the installed proxy with all connections21:04
ybits/host/proxy21:04
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mcamaretusing the icon-only task manager plasmoid, is it possible to make a launcher matching rule mandatory so that I can make chromium webapps come up under their own icon?21:30
mcamaretI would like to see readability as readability, not another chromium window.21:30
computeruseranyone connecting to NFS server using WiFI in Kubuntu 12.04?21:51
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user26Hello. I'm running Beta2 and it appears that my screen resolution is bigger than where my mouse can go, because I am no longer able to use edge effects. Is there a way to fix this?22:21
avihayuser26: I think you can manually redefine your geometry with xrandr22:26
user26avihay: I tried to set it a few pixels short but it said it wasn't an acceptable resolution.22:27
avihayand there's a dedicated channel to the next version that might supply you with more information. something like #ubuntu+1 I don't know the KDE equivlent22:28
wgoslinguser26: can your mouse move past any of the edges of your screen?22:29
avihayI havn't played that much with xrandr, but you can set the resolution of the real screen and the virtual screen separately, the real screen should have real world limits, and you should be able to set the virtual one to what you want/need and set up follow mouse or something like that22:30
user26wgosling: Negative. But when I set it for a lower resolution the screen edges work as expected.22:31
user26avihay: That doesn't seem to do it either.22:36
avihay:-<22:36
user26avihay: The really weird thing is that the "switch desktop on edge" function does work when it is enabled.22:43
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