/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/04/12/#ubuntu+1.txt

jeremiah__you prbly wont help. i bet 5 bucks00:00
jeremiah__more like wont be able to help00:00
neoooSo what is the best gui ? also can i make the native ubuntu just like xubuntu and kubuntu?00:01
jeremiah__01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300]00:01
KM0201neooo: no real "best" GUI... it's all opinion... you can install xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop on your current installl, and be able to select your GUI at the login screen, but that ends up a discombobulated mess in my opinion.00:03
DaekdroomYeah. You'll have a huge amount of apps installed.00:05
KM0201Daekdroom: i wish there was a way to keep all that separate.00:09
jeremiah__KM0201, i take it as you wont help.00:10
jeremiah__or cant00:10
KM0201can't00:11
KM0201sorry00:11
KM0201i thought i had replied to you00:11
KM0201jeremiah__: and you say "additional drivers" doesn't show an ATI drive you can install?00:11
neoooKM0201, so its the default gui that i should stick with?00:11
jeremiah__doesn't show a thing.00:11
neooojeremiah__, whats the issue? matbe i can help00:12
KM0201well, "I" would... if you want to try the other GUI's (KDE, XFCE,LXDE).. download their respective ISO's (kubuntu.org , xubuntu.org , lubuntu.net) and try them on a live USB.. if you like one over the other, then i would just clean install it over Ubuntu00:12
KM0201jeremiah__: hmm00:12
KM0201only thing i can figure, is seeing if ATI has a driver on their site.00:13
DaekdroomX2300 does not have support by the AMD Catalyst driver since 9.04, I think00:13
KM0201ah, i see00:13
KM0201i didn't think that device was that old00:14
DaekdroomThe open source driver, however, should work very well with it.00:14
neooobrb, nned to reboot00:14
KM0201https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/94657200:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 946572 in unity "unity in Precise freezes randomly, but pointer moves and can switch to tty" [Undecided,Incomplete]00:14
KM0201jeremiah__: does that look like what you're experiencing?00:14
jeremiah__neooo, ubuntu freezes for me time to time and i have installed ubuntu 12.04, 11.10 twice, both of them from diff. discs and they kept freezing for me, and one time didn't boot. that was for the first three. it has not died yet for this one.00:15
jeremiah__KM0201, yes, that is what happens. how do i switch?00:15
KM0201switch what?00:15
jeremiah__to tty00:16
KM0201oh.. alt +.. f1,f2, f3, f4, f5, and i think f6 brings you back (i don't use tty that often)00:16
jeremiah__that is what happens, it freezes, but my mouse still moves00:16
jeremiah__????00:16
KM0201you asked how to switch to tty00:17
jeremiah__explain00:17
arand!tty00:17
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.00:17
jeremiah__i didn't understand00:17
KM0201there you go, thank you arand00:17
jeremiah__so why swicth to a terminal looking thing? someone told me to do this but never gave a reason.00:18
KM0201some people just like to use it.00:19
KM0201you asked how to switch, so we told you.00:19
jeremiah__but what does it do?!00:20
jeremiah__i don't think changing screen resulution will fix it....00:20
KM0201no, it's not a resolution issue.00:20
KM0201Daekdroom: said to try installing the driver... (i think you have to do that from ATI's site).. i've never done that, and don't have the first clue how.00:21
jeremiah__so what do i do when i open tty?00:21
KM0201frankly, i'd just dump 3D, and go w/ one of the 2D desktops (lxde or xfce) and not worry about it... i'm assuming this machine is not for gaming00:21
KM0201jeremiah__: i told you, i don't know, i don't use ATI00:21
neooolol, does ubuntu even needs AMD card's drivers?00:21
DaekdroomHe CAN'T install the driver from ATI's website.00:21
KM0201oh.00:22
DaekdroomThe Catalyst driver doesn't support that card anymore00:22
KM0201why not?00:22
KM0201ohhhh..ok00:22
jeremiah__why?00:22
Daekdroomand neooo is right.00:22
KM0201then i'd just switch to 2D..00:22
DaekdroomThe opensource driver Ubuntu ships is VERY good.00:22
DaekdroomKM0201, you don't get it! He doesn't have to!00:22
KM0201i'm saying if it's a graphics card problem (which that bug report seemed to suggest)00:22
DaekdroomThe only ones that really need the driver from the AMD website are those that have cards the opensource driver doesn't support well yet.00:22
Daekdroom(and those that want to play games, or need good powersaving)00:23
neooolike me, who has nvidia00:23
neooobtw, are there any good multiplayer games?00:24
DaekdroomYeah. Nvidia's drivers support some very ancient cards (but they don't do anything to help the opensource driver develpment)00:24
neoooyeppp, i have 8400gs00:25
neooolol00:25
KM0201i don't mind a "closed" driver, so long as it is well maintained and supported.. and frankly, Nvidia's is.00:25
neoooany good multiplayer game?00:27
KM0201i used to really like urban terror00:27
KM0201but haven't played in a long time00:28
KM0201then there was that other one that was popular.00:28
KM0201alien arena00:29
KM0201tremulous00:29
KM0201i never cared for tremulous00:29
KM0201but back in the day, i played urban terror and alien arena a lot00:29
neooohmmm00:30
neoooi have played Urban terror in windows00:31
neooonice game00:31
KM0201yeah, urban terror was one of my favs00:31
KM0201i spent a lot of time on that game00:31
neooobut when i use windows i play Tf200:31
neooothe best00:31
KM0201but i reclassified my old PC to a file server, and only use laptops now, and i hate playing games on laptops00:31
neoooeveryone does00:32
KM0201i've beenc onsiderng getting me a 36000:33
neooothis one looks good00:33
neoooteewords00:33
neoooget a 360 what?00:33
KM0201xbox 36000:33
KM0201i don't have a console00:33
neooooh00:33
neooomy parents wont let me00:33
KM0201looks like a kids game to me (teeworlds)00:34
KM0201you might like tuxracer00:34
KM0201or supertuxkart (mario kart clone).. i liked that one also.00:34
Bluefoxicyalright boys and girls00:36
Bluefoxicywho uses Google Calendar?00:36
KM0201not i00:36
BluefoxicyI added a CalDAV to Evolution for Google Calendar but it's not showing up in the calender thing on Gnome Shell00:37
Bluefoxicyclick the date at the top and it just says no events for tomorrow, when my google calendar clearly has an event tomorrow00:37
Bluefoxicy... but gnome shell does give me pop up reminders...00:37
gorgonzolahello peoples! i just updated to precise from oneiric on a del xps, and i'm getting hard locks whenever i try too boot the new 3.2 kernel. how can i save the kernel buffer to fill a bug report?00:43
gorgonzolaie, save the output immediately before the hard lock00:43
jeremiah_how do you fix coreutils, debianutils, gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libssl1.0.0, libstdc++6, libuuid1, python-apt, python-apt-common, tar00:44
jeremiah__how do you fix coreutils, debianutils, gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libssl1.0.0, libstdc++6, libuuid1, python-apt, python-apt-common, tar00:55
Logan_jeremiah__: What do you mean?01:06
jeremiah__ubuntu brought up an error, asked to report it, clicked yes, and it said it couldn't send report because these were broken01:12
Logan_Try running: sudo apt-get install -f01:13
jeremiah__errg. hang on. i am installing something else and it is busy so i have to wait....01:15
jeremiah__Logan_, still here?01:39
Logan_Hi.01:39
jeremiah__ok. good. i am now running it...01:40
jeremiah__now what?01:41
Logan_Did you receive a response?01:42
jeremiah__yes01:42
jeremiah__I think i have it installed though. it says 0 newly installed and all dat stuff01:43
fall0utis dmraid broken on the 12.04 installer?01:43
jeremiah__fall0ut, are ye talking to me?01:44
pangolinjeremiah__, doubtful, usually on irc people address the user directly, when they don't it is a general statement or question in this case to the channel01:45
jeremiah__pangolin, logan is talking to me but he is not addressing me.01:46
jeremiah__and most people do that.01:46
pangolintrue. I did say usually :)01:46
Logan_Hi.01:47
fall0utit appears to be broken heh01:47
jeremiah__Logan_, hi.01:47
Logan_fall0ut: Are you using the latest daily build?01:47
fall0utI'm using beta2 CD01:47
Logan_If something's broken on Beta 2, then it's probably fixed on the daily.01:48
fall0utlemme try the latest01:48
fall0utbeta2 doesn't see any dmraid disks01:48
fall0utand you can activate dmraid yourself from the console01:48
* Logan_ is not sure. :-P01:49
Logan_Did it work in previous versions of Ubuntu?01:49
fall0utno clue01:50
fall0utnew install01:50
Bluefoxicyi got it01:50
Bluefoxicyhad to run r01:50
Bluefoxicyyay, gnome shell integration with google calendar :)01:51
_klk_hi all, i'm having trouble setting up a wireless connection on ubuntu server 12.0402:04
_klk_here is the iwconfig output:02:05
_klk_http://pastebin.com/RgEvqEQQ02:05
ssfdre38hey do you know why i get this error when i try and do a apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ssfdre38.com/102:06
_klk_and here is the /etc/network/interfaces02:06
_klk_http://pastebin.com/zjP1rZcT02:06
_klk_when i do sudo ifup wlan0 i only get msgs of the following type in syslog:02:07
_klk_Apr 11 19:00:27 capdev0 dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1402:07
_klk_does anyone have any tips for debugging this?02:08
semitoneshello :)02:18
semitonesIs the update process frozen at this point? Or is it still changing/improving02:19
DaekdroomThere are a lot of bugfixes coming.02:19
DaekdroomAnd some feature freeze exceptions here and there.02:19
semitonesoh, ok, i might as well wait until then :P02:24
atpa8ahmm02:42
atpa8asysfs is not permanent, is it?02:42
atpa8aor persistent, i should say02:43
tjr-I'm trying to get more information on a bug during installation during the 'Setup and Install Package' step.  All the information the log says is "Depends: xxx but it is not installable".  How can I try and get more information about hwy it is not installable?02:44
=== jbicha is now known as Guest73631
atpa8ahmm03:04
atpa8aany idea how to make changes to sysfs stick?..03:05
=== Guest73631 is now known as jbicha_
drpHi guys.  Can anyone give me an idea of 802.11n usb dongle support in 12.04?  Are there known working manufacturers or chipsets?03:21
holsteindrp: you can try them live... id save the reciepts... you never know when a chipset gets changed or whatever03:22
drp:)  Ok, thanks.  The last time I really looked into this is 10.04, and the answer was bascially the same.03:24
holsteindrp: the answer will never change03:25
holsteindrp: the vendors that produce them *can* support linux anytime.. broadcom actually is or was recently03:25
holsteindrp: still i believe it when i see it.. and save the recipts.. or buy hardware from a place like system7603:26
drpYou bet, thanks for your time holstein.03:29
holsteindrp: sure... good luck!03:31
=== CQ_ is now known as CQ
plustaxhey guys quick question. im doing sudo do-release-upgrade -d;  on my 1gram eeepc netbook from 10.04 to 12.04. Think this is a good idea? A little late now its already doing it but I want to make sure my computer can even run it03:49
bazhangnot a good idea03:52
bazhangtry a live usb first03:52
plustaxa bit late for that lol. we'll see how it goes I suppose. Ill be sure to report for future screw-ups03:53
plustaxin the mean time im downloading an image in case I need it03:53
Belial`plustax, you did a backup first, right?04:04
plustaxBelial`, no, but I dont care. nothing on it to backup04:11
astraljavaplustax: I have absolutely no idea why you chose to ask this late, then. :) But all the best to you and your system. *grin*04:22
plustaxastraljava, lol I turned it off. liveusb fresh install time lol04:22
vnhi, is there a date fixed on which precise is the stable?04:32
plustaxa couple weeks tops04:34
astraljavavn: Stabilization phase is on-going, final freeze happens tonight (UTC time). Who's to say, though, how late bugs are still found?04:35
astraljavaI mean, software business would be pretty easy if it was _hat_ predictable. :)04:35
astraljavathat*04:36
vnindeed, I'm just bored at work, cant wait to proceed to apt-get dist-upgrade04:37
astraljavavn: If you're bored, I highly recommend to upgrade. Chances are your boredom vanishes immediately. :D04:43
astraljavaOr how is it said, "highly recommend upgrading"? That sounds a bit better, yeah.04:44
vnheh04:51
vnofc but not a good idea necessarily for production env' ;)04:51
lenIt's usually not that risky upgrading when it's this close to release; especially when you're not using proprietary video drivers and the upcoming release is an LTS.   So upgrading now wouldn't exactly make you a daredevil :)04:58
vnnot even using GUI stuff...05:00
vnits basically LAMPs, bind9, mailman, BEX clients, vmware-tools, ..05:00
astraljavaYeah well, it's a production system, do not play with an unnecessary risk. I'd even hold off a month after the release before upgrading.05:02
lenvn, that's not the kind of stuff that's that exciting to upgrade.  :)  What new features are you looking for?  Will you really notice that much of a difference?05:03
tanelihmm.. 12.04 won't boot any more after this mornings update?05:05
vnastraljava: yea, my plan exactly...sadly05:07
vnlen: nothing much seriously..05:07
vnis apt-get dist-upgrade still the way to go?05:07
lenvn, If you're just looking for something to do, why not just load a copy onto someone's old decommissioned workstation and test it out?05:12
vnim not that bored but I guess I could yep05:14
tanelifor some reason, grub had lost everything05:25
tanelimanually specifying things let me boot05:25
taneliany idea why this would happen?05:25
tanelithere was a kernel update05:25
cjsSo, My T42 won't boot the 32-bit install CD due to the kernel wanting PAE and the processor not having it. I hear rumours that PAE support is being totally dropped.05:57
cjshttp://news.softpedia.com/news/i386-non-PAE-Kernel-To-Be-Removed-from-Ubuntu-12-04-234434.shtml05:57
micahgcjs: try a lubuntu or xubuntu ISO05:59
cjsHm. So non-PAE support is still available, it's just not installable via the regular ISO?05:59
micahgyes, for 12.0405:59
KM0201cjs: lubuntu is just downright sexy06:01
cjsI use the XFCE session manager, so I can live with installing Xubuntu. Though it always seemed to act a bit different from Ubuntu with the xfce desktop package installed.06:02
cjslubuntu just had too much broken stuff for me when I tried it with 11.10.06:02
Artemis3Xubuntu is working very nicely06:03
cjsHey, did they fix the issues with the panel and full screen?06:04
KM0201i don't care for xfce406:04
Artemis3what issue?06:04
cjsOn all my laptops, maximizing a window (in fvwm) puts part of it behind the panel, and on at least one, full-screen video still has the panel over top of it.06:04
cjsThis was never a problem with gnome-panel.06:04
Artemis3i use xfwm that comes with xfce...06:05
Artemis3and there is no such issue06:05
Artemis3alt f11, or full screen apps such as wine, screen savers, vlc, no problems06:06
Artemis3with and without composite effects06:06
cjsYeah, so I wonder if the xfce window manager and panel deal with this in a non-standard way.06:09
Artemis3you might want to ask the xfce ppl, or the fvwm, it's been at least a decade since i last touched fvwm06:11
micahgcjs: once you install, you can add whatever desktop env you want06:15
cjsmicahg: Yup, I am pretty well aware of that, since I run a very heavily customized desktop environment.06:16
cjsArtemis3: Heck, I only upgraded from fvwm1 to fvwm2 a few years ago. :-)06:16
GirlyGirlHi, my kde-telepathy instant messaging presence plasmoid has no icon so its invisible on the taskbar but works if I right click on the area where it is.06:31
varikonniemihello, i am running precise and am sad to inform you that the volume slider still does not work for me. It worked in 11.04, but stopped working in 11.1007:25
varikonniemiso is this a result from switching from gnome2 to gnome3, is this a linux kernel regression, or what do you think07:25
varikonniemiwhere should i file a bug report? I tried asking about this in the forums when 11.10 was released, but no-one seemed able to have anything to chip in on the problem07:26
KM0201it's an obvious software issue07:29
KM0201if the volume applet is not working07:29
KM0201definitely not a kernel regression07:30
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
MasterOfDisasterhey, upgrading to precise seems to break groupwise (http://paste.ubuntu.com/926070). This happens when opening an email (i.e. rendering html), other functionality doesn't seem to be affected. Any idea on how to get to the bottom of this?07:53
varikonniemiKM0201, it works as on/off switch07:56
GeraltHi, how can I enable a verbose boot screen? I removed the quiet option in /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub, but I still see no messages07:56
varikonniemiat least hitting esc should show you the text, iirc07:57
Geraltvarikonniemi: if possible I'd like a boot screen that looks like this: http://images.brighthub.com/73/D/73D7266B1653A9BA0998797C8A2F951DE45FB071_large.jpg08:03
varikonniemiok, that i have never before seen08:04
Geraltvarikonniemi: It's from the following presentation http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/39504.aspx#secn_1 and although he uses grub1 he says to just remove the quiet option, but it's not working for me08:07
=== krnekhelesh is now known as nik90
varikonniemiApr 12 10:21:38 varikonniemi-desktop rsyslogd-2039: Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole' [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]08:40
varikonniemii get this on every startup, is there a way to fix it?08:40
knizzThe screen lock behaviour changed in Ubuntu 12.09:09
knizzWhere can I find the code controlling this?09:09
knizzAnyone…?09:16
glosoliknizz: ?09:19
osirisx111i am on studio 12.04  and using gnome classic... i can't right click and go to panel properties anymore.. and i think i am missing my tray icons to things like pidgin and truecrypt09:39
zniavreosirisx111,  right clic +09:59
zniavre alt *09:59
zniavreright clic + alt     sorry **09:59
zniavrealt + RC in fact ...09:59
osirisx111ooo alttt ty!09:59
fishcookersplash doen't work on asus notebook10:16
Mars___hello everybody~10:19
fishcookerhello mars10:19
fishcookerare u on PP already10:19
fishcookermars___10:20
fishcookermars__10:20
Mars___who can i chat ?10:20
Mars___on pp? what means?10:20
bitplane-Hi all. What happened to the options to change the speaker layout? The sub on my laptop isn't working10:22
fishcookerPrecise pangoline10:22
fishcooker:p10:22
bitplane-Moar liek blunt blunstrument10:23
bitplane-is it a Gnome thing?10:23
Mars___what is it?10:26
Mars___oh i don't know what you said .10:26
bitplane-the sound settings panel in gnome-control-center10:26
Mars___i thank you for him .10:28
bitplane-"gnome-control-center sound-nua" apparently... hrm where do I get this src?10:28
=== xaphir_ is now known as xaphir
Mars___  looks like ,only i'm talking to you .10:30
bitplane-ugh. looks like the Ubuntu version has a million patches10:33
Mars___yes ,there are many.and where are you from?10:34
Mars___are you England?10:35
bitplane-Yes10:35
vega-_where do i set the default browser in unity? (precise)10:37
Mars___ugh,the ubuntu ,he could let me quit the game.10:38
Mars___how do you think ?10:38
vega-_in System -> Details ... sigh, how logical10:39
Mars___i also do not understand.sorry.10:41
bitplane-vega-_: looks like that's named badly. I wonder if there's a bug for that10:42
bitplane-It should be called "Defaults" or something10:42
bitplane-also Chromium ought to change that setting, but it doesn't10:43
bitplane-yeah default applications should be separate from system information10:44
arandThat's a gnome3 thing.10:44
bitplane-arand, is the removal of the speaker configuration also a gnome3 thing?10:45
bitplane-I'd like to know who to whine at for removing that10:45
arandhttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65701210:45
ubottuGnome bug 657012 in Other Preferences "Default Applications settings are hard to find" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:45
arandbitplane-: That I don10:46
arand..'t know, I'm guessing so, and that you'd be using the pulsaudio configuration to do that...10:47
vega-_bitplane-: well, not that it's "behind" Details you cannot search for it with the search-thingie or whatever it is called when you press the windows keyu10:48
vega-_not=now10:48
arandbitplane-: pavucontrl, possibly10:48
bitplane-super, thanks!10:49
bitplane-hmm, okay.. is there a profile editor for this?10:52
Will123456do you think the right click quick list menus should be the same colour as the launcher/dash?11:01
blamino11:02
Will123456blami: why not?11:02
maurorI have found a little bug in the intaller of beta2...11:03
maurorJust aesthetics, and I don't know if i am still in time to submit such low level bugs...11:04
maurorSorry, new to the community, my advanced apologies to everybody!11:04
Will123456mauror: it's fine - what's the bug?11:04
blamiWill123456: as launcher and dash colors are derived from wallpaper there wouldnt be contrast between quick list menus and wallpaper or dash11:05
Will123456blami: that's a fair point! i suppose colouring it the same as the icon that spawned it might look too garish too11:05
maurorDuring the install, some screenshots are displayed, the one saying the sound manager is rythmbox, still shows a videocapture of banshee...11:05
[4-tea-2]Hi, is the grub message "error: no such partition" after upgrading to 12.04 a common problem and is there a workaround?11:06
barfHmmm, I’m connected via wifi, but the icon on top meny does not show any "bananas" nor does it show the wifi profile in use.11:06
Will123456mauror: it's worth reporting. even if they decide against changing it, though given that it's a minor detail it shouldn't be too bad11:07
bitplane-wifi bananas, I like that11:07
bitplane-barf, do you mean it shows no signal strength, or is the indicator and drop-down menu completely missing?11:08
barfIt shows no signal strength, and it does not show the available hot spots11:09
maurorWill123456: it is not clear against what I should file a report, 12.04, precise...???11:09
barfdrop down menu is there, but far too much stuff is greyed out, compared to yesterday’s 10.04 system11:09
mauror(My fault)11:09
[4-tea-2]"error: no such partition", anyone?11:10
barf[4-tea-2]: mounted elsewhere?11:10
maurorSorry, have to go to work...11:10
[4-tea-2]barf: it's a grub message11:10
bitplane-barf, can you get a screenshot please? also what wifi card are you using?11:10
barfbitplane-: the macchine is called: Acer Aspire 771511:11
barfbitplane-: How do I make a screenshot?11:11
bitplane-Press the printscreen key!11:11
bitplane-[4-tea-2]: I've not seen anyone complain about that in here. I guess raise a bug and attach your grub config11:12
bitplane-and of course hack it so it works11:12
[4-tea-2]I updated from 11.10 to 12.04 on a dual-boot system, now trying to boot any of the grub entries (incl. Windows) results in a number of "error: no such partition" messages. I can't find an obvious mistake in the grub stanzas.11:12
bitplane-oh :/11:12
Will123456okay guys - inc. blami: i did this in 10 seconds, so give me your opinions: http://www.locker101.co.uk/colourisedquicklist.png11:13
[4-tea-2]Downloading an iso image now, so I can use 12.04 as a rescue disc (before I return to 11.10).11:13
Will123456i've just realised it wouldn't work at all for white icons11:13
barfbitplane-: I pressed prt scr, now what?11:14
barfIs it on my clipboard?11:14
bitplane-barf, a save dialog should pop up11:15
bitplane-"Save Screenshot" window11:15
barfNah11:15
bitplane-oh... actually it might not work while there's a menu open. damn!11:15
barfNothing like that shows up11:15
bitplane-yeah it doesn't work while the menu is open, need to use a screenshot program with a delay *sigh*11:15
barfOn the apple computers I would press cmd+CTRL+SHIFT+4 then space, then click on the window/pane11:16
bitplane-press meta, then type "screenshot"11:16
barfscreencapture?11:16
bitplane-that app can take a screenshot in 3 seconds time11:16
barfor is that dead?11:16
bitplane-not sure what it's called. maybe I installed it from software center and it's not part of a default install11:17
barfbitplane-: http://bildr.no/image/1155263.jpeg11:23
bitplane-very strange11:24
barfIt says the unit is not treated under the wireless part11:25
barfI expected there to be at least 4 hotspots listed11:25
bitplane-yeah it looks like it's not scanning? I think gnome's network manager is separate from the network system11:27
bitplane-I bet if you typed "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | more" into a console you'd get a list of access points11:31
bitplane-but that probably won't help11:31
bitplane-let's find the correct component to report the bug against11:31
barfOr uninstall that component and reinstall it?11:32
bitplane-you could try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager11:33
bitplane-did you try just disabling and re-enabling wireless?11:33
barfsudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID | wc -l tells me 411:33
bitplane-yeah so your wifi system is all okay, so I guess it must be gnome's network manager11:34
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
barfStill no good11:48
MechanisMafter some upgrades unable to start system settings12:03
bitplane-what errors do you get if you run gnome-control-center in a terminal?12:04
MechanisMhold on12:06
MechanisMbitplane- http://paste.ubuntu.com/926303/12:07
MechanisMand now each time new linux kernel update I see such things like grub generation filed, and update process stops on P: Updating /boot/extlinux/linux.cfg...12:10
barfbitplane-: was that one for me?12:14
[4-tea-2]Okay, my grub problem seems to be related to me and Ubuntu having different opinions on what the boot drive should be. No idea how to fix it without manually doing "grub-install", but it shouldn't affect people with a reasonable number of drives that haven't been juggled around.12:20
[4-tea-2]Ah, the fix is obviously "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc".12:23
[4-tea-2]Yay, still no support for my NIC included, but now the proprietary driver won't compile any longer. Well, it seems the Psychotic Pantaloon will run with ye olde 3.0 kernel.12:28
mouth1hi12:33
[4-tea-2]Okay, a new version of the proprietary driver was released yesterday. I hereby grant the [4-tea-2] Seal of Approval to Pancreatic Postcapitalist.12:38
glosoli[4-tea-2]: ? ;D12:39
[4-tea-2]Oh, sorry, I meant to Predominant Predator.12:40
[4-tea-2]Or whatever 12.04 is called.12:40
barfaptd error, reported12:41
glosoli[4-tea-2]: Precise Pangolin :D12:45
[4-tea-2]glosoli: yeah, I know, it says so in the topic. It's just that I had a clown for breakfast. ;)12:47
glosoli:DD12:48
MechanisM[4-tea-2] recently I had same problem with grub-pc12:54
[4-tea-2]MechanisM: I used to love grub like you, but then I took an arrow to /dev/sda.13:05
alexstrand7Ubuntu 12.04 Setup failed on Dell Latitude D531. Stopped on partition manager13:26
alexstrand7No changes are made13:26
tomodachialexstrand7: any error message?13:26
alexstrand7exiting because of inactivity13:27
alexstrand7it said that in the terminal13:27
alexstrand7first i got an internal error, so failed the setup. Wifi driver doesn't install. Now I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS13:28
alexstrand7Everything works here13:29
alexstrand7but I want to update to 12.04 when it comes, so please fix the bugs13:29
alexstrand7Can I get unity on 10.04?13:30
tomodachialexstrand7: i think you need to file a bugreport, just posting stuff here wont really be enough13:31
alexstrand7how?13:31
tomodachialso check the console output it should contain an exact error message13:32
alexstrand7how do I file a bug?13:32
tomodachilaunchpad is the official bug reporting site13:32
alexstrand7link?13:32
tomodachihttps://launchpad.net13:32
alexstrand7ok, can I use my Ubuntu one account to login?13:33
tomodachii dont know , try it13:33
alexstrand7ok13:33
alexstrand7ok, I'm online, what should I do now?13:36
=== RobinJ1995 is now known as RobinJ
alexstrand7I'm on the Precise front page on Launchpad, how do I file a bug?13:37
ratcheeralexstrand7: The first thing you should do is search to see if there is already a bug filed on your problem.13:41
alexstrand7ok, I'm new to this, how do I do it?13:41
alexstrand7i have heard of some other people had the same error, but I don't know if they have filed it13:42
ratcheeralexstrand7: There should be a search box on the front page.13:42
alexstrand7ok13:42
alexstrand7the search doesn't find any errors for my computer13:43
alexstrand7so it can't have been filed13:44
mouth1why are the default wallpapers disappearing in 12.04?13:46
mouth1the one with the trains on it13:46
mouth1not in the options to set as desktop background anymore13:46
GirlyGirl_mouth1: Probably the same reason Windows Vista and 7 ship with different sample wallpapers13:49
ratcheermouth1: A new package was released in the past couple of days. Maybe that one is no longer included.13:49
mouth1oh13:49
mouth1so it's because i did updates to the beta of 12.04?13:49
mouth112.04 beta*13:49
ratcheerYes, probably.13:50
ratcheerMy system no longer has it, either.13:50
mouth1thank you ratcheer13:57
ratcheermouth1: You're welcome.13:59
Daekdroommouth1, the old wallpapers are available in the ubuntu-wallpapers-oneiric package.14:07
Daekdroomand from 12.10 on, the old wallpapers will not be deleted when updating. The issue is adressed (just not for this version).14:08
mouth1ok14:14
mouth1thank you14:14
alexstrand7ok, but it says I must use the terminal to report a bug, what is the command for reporting problems with the Ubuntu 12.04 setup?14:17
Picialexstrand7: ubuntu-bug packagename14:17
alexstrand7yes, whats the package name of Ubuntu 12.04 setup?14:17
alexstrand7I'm running 10.0414:18
Picialexstrand7: huh?14:19
PiciAre you having a bug with 10.04 or with 12.04?14:19
alexstrand7I cant report when I'm installing ubuntu, so I must run a installed Ubuntu version to report it14:19
alexstrand7I tried to install 12.04, that failed, I have 10.04 installed14:19
Picialexstrand7: Are you trying to upgrade from 10.04 or do a fresh install of 12.04?14:20
alexstrand7install beside 10.0414:20
PiciSo a fresh install?14:20
alexstrand7I don't know what its called14:20
alexstrand7I used a usb stick, booted up the bios and tried to install from the usb stick14:21
alexstrand7maybe its called fresh install, I don't know14:21
Picialexstrand7: Do you expect 10.04 to turn into 12.04, with all your packages, settings, and files in-tact, or are you formatting and installing 12.04, or are you dual-booting 10.04 and 12.04?14:21
alexstrand7I want to dual boot it14:22
alexstrand7so I can try it out before install over 10.414:22
alexstrand7It failed there it should partition my hard drive14:23
alexstrand7no changes was made14:23
alexstrand7Should I try again, or should I try it in Vbox before and see if the same problem occur there?14:24
Picialexstrand7: But the live environment wa still working after the installer failed?14:24
=== diegovieiraeti is now known as diegovieira
Pici*was14:24
alexstrand7I used the installer, not live mode14:24
alexstrand7you can choose to try it out or install, i chose install14:24
alexstrand7I tried both options14:25
alexstrand7everything other worked14:25
alexstrand7it just failed without saying anything to me, when I saw the progress bar stopped I checked the terminal and there it said it stopped because of inactivity14:26
alexstrand7but network and other things still worked as normal14:26
Picialexstrand7: Take a look at the 'Submitting Installation Reports' section on the following page: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/boot-troubleshooting.html14:27
alexstrand7can you find a similar help page, but for USB14:27
alexstrand7I didn't use Cdrom14:27
alexstrand7Here it says how to do it with older cd drives14:28
Picialexstrand7: Its not specific to CD installs.14:28
alexstrand7ok14:28
Picithe information from /var/log/ will also be important to tracking down what really went wrong.14:28
alexstrand7As I said before: I'm new to ubuntu, I don't know all this commands when I'm installing a new Ubuntu14:29
alexstrand7I will try again, maybe it will work14:29
JoeBaloneyI'm having a strange issue. I'm using 12.04 with cairo-dock, when  I start I choose a cairo-dock session and I don't have unity running (visibly anyway). The weird issue is that cut/copy/pase don't work on the desktop.  In other words I can't delete a file off the desktop unless I right click and select delete.15:14
JoeBaloneyJust kind of annoying, but I have no idea if I need to investigate cairo-dock, unity, gnome-shell, or what.15:15
JoeBaloneyAm I nuts, or is this awfully quiet for a room with 314 people?15:16
MarKsaitishey!15:18
JoeBaloneyHey. Apparently you and I are the only ones in this room with 316 people.15:18
gnomefreakno your not :)15:18
MarKsaitisso if I will keep doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade on 12.04 beta, I will get upgraded to the stable 12.04 when it's released, is that correct?15:19
MarKsaitis:)15:19
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: yes15:19
MarKsaitisbrilliant, thanx a million15:19
JoeBaloneyThat's a good question. I have done this beta thing before and wasn't sure after it was released if I should do a reinstall.15:19
gnomefreakjust do your updates15:20
JoeBaloneyCool, thanks.15:20
bazhang!final | MarKsaitis15:20
ubottuMarKsaitis: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1.15:20
MarKsaitisbazhang, I have 11.10, but im upgrading to dev version15:21
gnomefreakbazhang: i cant access my gmail account, has mark decided on the code name for 12.10 (not too many animals start with the litter"Q")15:21
gnomefreaks/litter/letter15:21
RobertLaptopI am having an issue with network-manager want to see if there was an easy fix or if I needed to open a bug report?  When I go to create a new VPN.  Select OpenVPN the box displays but there is no OK or Save option.  network-manager-openvpn is installed15:21
JoeBaloneyQueasy Qat?15:22
gnomefreakRobertLaptop: i would file a bug report on that just in case. are the choices there but greyed out?15:22
MarKsaitisbazhang, gnomefreak could you please advise, im on 11.10 and did upgrade to dev version. http://pastebin.com/sdTvqKPi15:22
RobertLaptopgnomefreak, Nope.  No option to save.15:23
JoeBaloneyAny ideas as to why my del, ctrl+c, ctrl+x don't work on the desktop? They work in file manager.15:23
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: change the mirror you are using15:23
gnomefreakRobertLaptop: than i would definitly file a bug on that15:23
MarKsaitisgnomefreak, so I do "No" and then go to change my mirrors. i use internal stuff15:23
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: 1 sec15:24
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: yes choose no and re-write your soures.list file. If you need i can give you my sources.list rfile on pastebin (only offical mirrors)15:25
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: let me know.15:25
gnomefreakmy DAMN SOUND ISNT WORKING15:25
ezoeI have a question. Suppose I use 11.10 now and I use a PPA which has a software both 11.10 and 12.04 repository doesn't have. Can I safely upgrade to 12.04 without removing software and PPA?15:25
gnomefreakopps15:25
MarKsaitisgnomefreak, thanx im fine. Im lookin on ubuntu wiki for mirrors15:25
gnomefreakk15:26
gnomefreakezoe: it is best if you use update-manager ro upgrade to 12.04 it will/should handle everything for you15:26
gnomefreaks/ro/to15:26
MarKsaitisupdate manage ro?15:27
gnomefreakbazhang: any clue what the command is to test sound? i cant recall it15:27
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: ro == to15:27
gnomefreakit should be use update-manager to upgrade15:27
bazhanggnomefreak, let me check, aplay  is involved iirc let me check the man page15:28
gnomefreakuse the command update-manager -d     in terminal and answer the questions15:28
gnomefreakbazhang: thanks i can find it. i wasnt sure if aply was right or not15:28
ezoealso, I've read a PPA added to one version of Ubuntu does not work when Ubuntu is upgraded, so I have to readd it.15:28
MarKsaitisgnomefreak, cant find mirrors page ;]15:28
mysticaloneHello, I'm having issues with Radeon Mobility on a HP dv6, I get a black screen without radeon.modeset=0, but using the parameter causes a hang. Nomodeset gets me to a screen showing me scripts being run, i.e. "Running /scripts/init-bottom15:29
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: hold on ill post the offical ones. you already on 12.04 right?15:29
MarKsaitisgnomefreak, no im on 11.1015:29
mysticaloneI would like to add that I believe I am in single user mode, and by chance have been able to start X and unity by cli15:30
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: oh ok let me see. did you use update-manager -d to upgrade?15:31
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
ezoespeaking of which, I wonder Ubuntu still use Nouveau for nVidia GPU.  I have to say Nouveau is very unstable. When I tried to install, it failed to boot. I have to add nomodeset to kernel parameter. This isn't a good for novice user.15:31
MarKsaitisgnomefreak, I did but I canceled it as it said it didnt find mirrors. You seen my pastebin didntu15:31
jpdsMarKsaitis: Can't find mirrors?15:32
gnomefreakMarKsaitis: yes im looking at it now bug you didnt use upodate-manger -d if you did you would get messages in dialog boxes15:32
MarKsaitisjpds, yeah where is mirrors page for ubuntu?15:32
gnomefreakjpds: he needs 11.10 mirrors15:32
jpdsMarKsaitis: What is the exact mirror message?15:33
MarKsaitiswhats the diff between do release upgrade and update manager15:33
* gnomefreak still looking at aplay page but im not seeing what i9m looking for15:33
jpdsMarKsaitis: The former is for servers, the latter, desktops.15:33
gnomefreakjpds: http://pastebin.com/sdTvqKPi15:33
MarKsaitisi am on a server15:33
jpdsgnomefreak: That's a warning, not a error.15:34
gnomefreakjpds: its hes not mine15:34
jpdsMarKsaitis: You can safely ignore that error, and just do "y".15:34
MarKsaitishttp://pastebin.com/sdTvqKPi jpds gnomefreak15:34
MarKsaitisu recon15:34
MarKsaitishow do I default sources.lst?15:35
jpdsMarKsaitis: No, I know.15:35
jpdsIt's just complaining because mirror.hetzner.de isn't an official mirror.15:35
MarKsaitisjpds, because it mabye makes sense as I use internal mirrors and mabye they dont have precise beta in them?15:35
MarKsaitisjpds, ok then, how do I default sources.list as I want only official mirrors15:36
jpdsMarKsaitis: They probably will.15:36
MarKsaitiswill and do mean different, dont they =)15:36
jpdsMarKsaitis: If your server is on hetzner.de's network, it makes more sense to use theirs.15:36
GirlyGirlMarKsaitis: Use this one if you want http://paste.kde.org/456266/15:37
jpdsMarKsaitis: As a mirror admins, I know these things. :P15:38
gnomefreakanyone know a website with sound?15:38
gnomefreaknot flash15:38
MarKsaitisjpds, but what if precise beta isnt there? and since that it is unoficial, mabye they will not have latest beta updates as opposed to official mirrors?15:38
kharnovHi, I'm having an issue. I'm on the Xubuntu 12.04 beta, and sometimes when I try to log in, it just hangs. If I keep restarting, eventually it loads, but it's really annoying.15:39
jpdsgnomefreak: Wikipedia.15:39
jpdsMarKsaitis: Only one way to find out.15:39
gnomefreakbazhang: you can test sound using the command "ubuntu-bug audio" in alt-F2 :)15:39
=== GirlyGirl is now known as cyf
jpdsMarKsaitis: The reason it's unofficial, is because it can only be accessed behind their network, so I can't check if precise is there.15:40
=== cyf is now known as GirlyGirl
gnomefreakjpds: i dont see anything that will play a sound.15:41
bazhanggnomefreak, heh nice to know15:41
GirlyGirlgnomefreak: html5.grooveshark.com15:41
jpdsgnomefreak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasnost - "listen".15:42
gnomefreakGirlyGirl: thanks15:42
gnomefreakjpds: thanks as well15:43
mysticaloneIs there a work-around to getting LightDM working on radeon?15:43
MarKsaitisjpds, it seems there is precise, I checked for it15:44
MarKsaitisthen why do release upgrade gives warning to say that there isnt some stuff in there15:44
gnomefreakok so its either gnome-etrm or its irssi. not i do need to find aplay command. i didnt see it in --help so man page it is15:45
jpdsMarKsaitis: Read line 17.15:45
MarKsaitisjpds, 17 line in where?15:45
jpdsMarKsaitis: Your pastebin. :)15:46
MarKsaitisoh ok jpds ;]]]15:46
MarKsaitisjpds, read line 16 and 17 together lol15:47
gnomefreakok this sucks. ill be back need smoke and think. i think i broke aplay :( be back soon15:47
jpdsMarKsaitis: Yep, looks like it just finds an internal mirror and asks you y/N ?15:48
MarKsaitisWhile scanning your repository information no mirror entry for the15:49
MarKsaitisupgrade was found. This can happen if you run an internal mirror or15:49
MarKsaitisif the mirror information is out of date.15:49
MarKsaitisjpds, it says it doesnt find?15:49
jpdsMarKsaitis: Doesn't find an official mirror entry for that mirror.15:50
MarKsaitisohok15:51
MarKsaitisim gonna go with it then15:51
gnomefreaki have a lit smoke outside so ill be fast. why not use the default mirrors? example: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted  just change precise to your version (11.10?) anyway ill be back soon15:52
jpdsgnomefreak: Please don't put all the load on the main servers, mirrors exist for a reason.15:55
gnomefreakbe careful upgrading. libnux is broken15:55
gnomefreakjpds: i know :) but i never had good luck with mirrors15:55
gnomefreakok smnoke15:55
gnomefreakif you are using unity/ubuntu-dwesktop do NOT upgrade yet. wait a few days16:01
gnomefreaklibnux-2.0-0 libnux-2.0-common  removes ubuntu-desktop and unity16:02
gnomefreakjpds: there is a reason default mirrors are default (i guess you could use a contry code but i think they are not much different than not using one16:03
gnomefreak)16:03
mysticalonecould libnux be affecting my install? I updated yesterday16:03
jpdsgnomefreak: Country codes are the default.16:04
gnomefreakmysticalone: if you already upgraded and still have ubuntu-desktop you shoulod be fine just dont upgrade those packages16:04
gnomefreakjpds: ah16:04
gnomefreakjpds: are you getting this errror16:05
gnomefreakW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 41FDF8A2B455BEF016:05
gnomefreaksorry warning16:05
gnomefreakoh wait that a ppa16:05
jpds:-)16:06
gnomefreakquestiong is what ppa is it :(16:06
jpdsgnomefreak: Doesn't matter.16:07
gnomefreaki know but i hate getting warning16:07
gnomefreakas16:07
jpdsgnomefreak: Just do: $ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 41FDF8A2B455BEF016:07
gnomefreakoh aplay -P isnt playing anything. should it be?16:08
gnomefreakjpds: thanks that grabbed it16:09
martinphonewhat is this blueman applet crash report I keep getting?16:09
martinphone12.04 64 bits16:09
gnomefreakmartinphone: file a bug on the crash. jusat stating it is crashing offers no help at all16:09
martinphonegnomefreak, it says that it has already been filled as abug16:10
* gnomefreak not sure waht blueman is. i get a feeling it has something to do with bluetooth16:10
gnomefreakmartinphone: use the command apport to add your info to the bug or just comment that you have same issue. how it happens(what you are doing) or what not16:11
gnomefreaki cant remember if it is apport-support bug# if not support im not sure off hand16:12
redtornadohas anyone else had "partial upgrade" issues in the last 24hrs? im running  12.04 beta 2 and its asking to remove Unity and core Ubuntu files16:12
gnomefreaklol there is no man or --help page for apport16:12
gnomefreakredtornado: yes do not upgrade foir a day or too. its libnux causing that16:13
redtornadooh ok16:13
redtornadothanks16:13
gnomefreaknp16:13
gnomefreakonce i figure out how to word it and when i get a minute ill add it to the topic16:13
redtornadois it possible to stop the update notification for it? or do I just cancel every time?16:15
redtornado<<beginner16:15
gnomefreakredtornado: dont upgrade yet16:15
redtornado:] im not16:15
gnomefreakaplay isnt playing nice with me16:16
gnomefreakaplay -P isnt playing anything ,like man page says16:17
gnomefreak-P needs a file doesnt it?16:18
mysticaloneWould someone like to help me build a kernel with patched broadcom drivers ? LOL16:24
fishcookerhello fellas16:31
fishcookerim on PP16:31
fishcookeri can't add new user on user account16:31
fishcookerhow to fix that16:32
foobArrrdoes 12.04 get a gui for lightdm configuration16:32
fishcookeranyone16:36
trismfishcooker: System Settings/User Accounts click unlock in the top right corner, then click the + at the bottom left16:37
foobArrror is there at least documentation for lightdm.conf?  man lightdm has nothing, there is no documentation in lightdm.conf itself. rather dissatisfying situation.16:39
trismfoobArrr: zless /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz16:40
foobArrrthx16:40
fishcookertrism: still no luck16:44
trismfishcooker: what do you mean by no luck, what happens specifically?16:44
fishcookertrism after + i cant get anything16:46
trismfishcooker: a dialog should pop up asking you to 'Create new account'16:47
trismfishcooker: assuming you were successful after clicking unlock and entering your password16:48
gnomefreakif you have proposed repo enhabled disable it before you update16:50
gnomefreakthan you should be safe16:51
fishcookerof course i've entered the password16:52
trismfishcooker: did it error or anything?16:52
fishcookernothing err message16:52
trismfishcooker: so nothing happens after you click +?16:52
fishcookeris there any command line16:53
fishcookeryes u rite16:53
fishcookertrism16:53
trismfishcooker: You could try: sudo adduser username; then enter the information it asks16:53
Bender_ hello, I have downloaded a new version of a software (rawtherapee). It runs only if I have installed the older version from the software center. Is it possible to keep in launcher the new version? I can't do that, it always make start the old version. The new version is in a folder in the home directory. Useing Ubuntu 12.0416:53
Bender_ ...and unity :)16:53
trismfishcooker: replacing username with the name you want to use16:53
GirlyGirlBender_: Create a shortcut to the new executable and drag and drop on the unity launcher16:54
Bender_GirlyGirl, let me try...16:54
fishcookerthankyou trism it work16:54
Bender_GirlyGirl, doesn't work16:55
=== gnomefreak changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Discussion and support for Precise Pangolin | Release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule | Oneiric Support in #ubuntu | Beta 2 Released! http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/beta2 Warning please disable precise-proposed repos before upgrading to 12.04!
gnomefreakunop16:55
gnomefreakopps16:55
GirlyGirlBender_: Ask some one here how to add the shortcut to the launcher ... I don't know as I use KDE16:56
Bender_Ok16:56
atpa8ahmm16:56
Bender_Hello, anybody can tell me how to add a shortcut to the Unity Launcher in 12.04?16:57
atpa8ano add-apt-repository in precise?...16:57
gnomefreakBender_: drag and drop it16:57
Bender_gnomefrek, doesn't work16:57
gnomefreakatpa8a: use update-manager -d to upgrade. first read the topic to the channel16:57
gnomefreakBender_: wehat are you trying to do16:57
trismatpa8a: there is, I just used it a moment ago, make sure you have python-software-properties installed16:57
gnomefreakoh damn nevermid soee a16:58
gnomefreakdamn16:58
atpa8ahmm16:58
gnomefreakBender_: what are you trying to add to launcher. also you can drag and drop to desktop than drtag and drop to launcher if it is an app not a file16:59
atpa8atrism: dpkg -S `which add-apt-repository` please16:59
Bender_I have downloaded the new version of rawtherapee from the website, it is a folder that I have placed in my home. It doesn't start it's own, i have to download and install by Software center the older version in order to make it work. So I would like to add the Unity launcher the icon to start the new version and forget the older one.16:59
trismatpa8a: it is in python-software-properties16:59
atpa8atrism: thanks!17:00
Bender_gnomefreak "keep in launcher" doesn't work too. It starts always the older version.17:00
gnomefreaknew version should be used by default but im not sure what you mean you had to install older version to get nerw version to work. is this a .deb or did you buiild the package17:00
gnomefreakmy typing sucks17:01
Bender_gnomefreak, it's a compressed folder then I have an executable file with other subfolder.17:01
gnomefreakyou are trying to add the .deb right?17:01
Bender_gnomefreak, and if i don't install the older version the newer (from folder - double click on executable) doesn't start at all.17:01
Bender_gnomefreak, no .deb file :( just a folder stand alone17:02
gnomefreakBender_: this is sounding a bit l;ike the package17:02
gnomefreakBender_: AFAIK you cant add files to launcher it has to be a .deb (in your case)17:03
Bender_gnomefreak, ok give a look yourself : http://rawtherapee.com/downloads17:03
* gnomefreak not entirely sure in unity. ive been away from pc for a while now17:03
gnomefreakBender_: tyhat package is very out dated and is not built for 12.0417:04
gnomefreaks/tyhat/that17:04
mysticalonewhat does libnux remove?17:05
mysticalonedesktop and what else17:06
gnomefreakmysticalone: read the topic but it removes ubuntu-desktop and unity17:06
gnomefreakjust disable proposed repo and you will be fine\17:06
gnomefreakok im out. start dinner nad more work17:06
Bender_gnomefreak I understand17:07
atpa8ahmm17:07
atpa8atrying to install a ppa that's higher version then ubuntu... but it's not doing anything17:08
atpa8ahow can i diagnose?17:08
jtaylorapt-cache policy package17:08
jtaylorshould list all available versions and their pinning17:09
atpa8ahmm17:09
atpa8adoesn't have the one with the higher version...17:09
atpa8awhat can be wrong?..17:10
atpa8aoh... 0 successful builds :) that'll explain17:11
=== will is now known as Will123456
Will123456hey guys. can anyone else pick up the dash button and drag it about using your mouse?17:32
jlb181Yes17:33
Will123456odd eh :P17:34
Will123456the other 'static' buttons don't let you grab 'em17:34
jlb181Can just drag it around thats all.  It flys back home when you let it go.17:34
Will123456right. but you can't with the workspace switcher17:35
Will123456or the rubbish bin17:35
jlb181You're right, I can't.   Hmmm.....17:36
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
=== GirlyGirl is now known as GirlyGirl_
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
=== GirlyGirl is now known as Guest39305
=== Guest39305 is now known as GirlyGirl_
spaceneedleI notice that unity-2d-shell  uses 6.2% of memory while uses 5.3% according to the Top utility.17:56
spaceneedleSorry left out: untiy 3d uses 5.3% of memory.17:57
FreeRunhi18:05
FreeRunwhen i'm instal ubuntu 12.04 server i have error with archive mirror18:05
FreeRunamd6418:05
FreeRundid you have working add?18:05
FreeRuni have "bad archive mirror"18:07
=== GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl
Zoffix_Hey, can someone paste their uname -a, please? I want to know what kernel ubuntu 12.04beta uses by default18:10
FreeRun 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:10
FreeRunbut ths is updated,18:11
FreeRundefault i think is 2118:11
FreeRunor 2018:11
Zoffix_Thanks!18:11
FreeRunnp18:11
jtrucks21 is defualt it seems..18:14
jtrucksoh he/she left18:14
ttl-greetings18:22
ttl-12.04 is great18:22
* jtrucks concurs18:22
ttl-the only thing i'm still missing on my laptop is the ability to turn off the touchpad18:23
ttl-those special keys worked in 10.04 but not in 12.0418:23
spacebug-ttl-: it's not found under system settings -> mouse/touchpad?18:24
ttl-maybe gotta check, but in  10.04 i could use the FN-key combination to rut18:26
ttl-to turn off the touchpad18:26
spacebug-ttl-: it might still be doable in 12.0418:28
spacebug-ttl-: just read in a forum someone disabled it with command: synclient touchpadoff=118:32
ttl-spacebug: Thanks!18:33
spacebug-ttl-: also this one http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/touchpad-indicator-now-automatically.html  in indicator which can be setup using short cuts keys18:33
ttl-spacebug-: Thanks a lot18:35
georgelappieshi all, is anybody else getting the bug with the proprietary ATI drivers when screen switches off, compiz maxes the cpu out? Laptop gets really hot and battery doesn't last18:42
GirlyGirlHi my laptop specs are: Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz, 2GB cl=4 RAM, Intel GMA 950 graphics. Would unity in 12.04 work on this? In 11.10 all the gnome  3 stuff like shell and unity were a bit slow. Which is strange as KDE is extremely fast with all desktop effects on this pc. Is 12.04 faster than 11.10?18:55
delacplanning to install gnome-shell. What are the most important extras I get if I install "gnome" package instead of only "gnome-shell"?19:00
jogdishhi GirlyGirl is it a netbook?19:05
FunnyLookinHatheh - something crashed to make me lose my window decorations - but Unity is stil running...  any easy way to get them back with an ALT-F2 command?19:05
GirlyGirljogdish: yes19:06
GirlyGirlFunnyLookinHat: unity --reset19:06
FunnyLookinHatGirlyGirl, Awesome thanks19:06
jogdishGirlyGirl: ya Xubuntu,Kubunt have all been fine on my Asus EEe pc 901, but Ubuntu was always kinda slow, but cant be sure about unity19:07
FunnyLookinHatoh gross - that also reset all my prefs  :D19:07
FunnyLookinHatoh well goo dto go19:07
jogdishGirlyGirl: it might complain and offer you 2d unity instead19:07
GirlyGirljogdish: This netbook should theoretically work with Unity 3d19:08
jogdishGirlyGirl:  i agree, guess only way to find out is to test it - sorry dont know much more19:08
GirlyGirlFunnyLookinHat: Sorry should have been compiz --replace19:08
FunnyLookinHatah no worries19:09
FunnyLookinHatnow I know :D19:09
GirlyGirljogdish: I think it was a strange quirk in 11.10 as even if I launch a gtk3 app like software center under kde it would be slow19:10
jogdishGirlyGirl: have you tried a live usb, just as a quick test maybe with beta2?19:11
GirlyGirljogdish: I don't quite get it as on KDE effects are maxed out http://imagebin.org/207730 . and its still fast19:14
jogdishGirlyGirl: thats your NETBOOK?19:14
GirlyGirljogdish: yes19:15
jogdishGirlyGirl: you are awesome! and so is KDE19:15
jogdishGirlyGirl: been my experience that KDE / Kwin is way way better at handling the effects, Gnome/unity were always more power/resource hungry19:15
varikonniemijogdish, compiz has improved somewhat in 12.04 so the ui lag is gone19:36
varikonniemiand according to phoronix benchamrking, kwin is the slowest desktop19:37
DaekdroomSlowest for gaming.19:37
varikonniemii mean latest kde19:37
DaekdroomIt tells nothing about smoothness of the UI.19:37
varikonniemii admit unity was laggy19:37
varikonniemibut it is fixed now in 12.0419:38
DaekdroomIndeed it was.19:38
varikonniemii switched to gnome-shell in 11.1019:38
varikonniemibecause of the ui lag19:38
varikonniemibut now there is no noticeable difference19:38
jogdishcool thx for the correction varikonniemi19:40
varikonniemia great end for an era will this LTS be, next one is surely to come with wayland and no compiz/unity19:41
jogdishwhats wayland?19:41
GirlyGirljogdish: x server replacement19:42
tim`has anyone had trouble with virt-manager in 12.04 ? I cant seem to conncet to libvirtd but i see that it is running19:42
varikonniemix is way way outdated19:42
egolosthmm.. I had troubble with the nvidia driver 295.33, they fail to load at boot somtimes but if I go to a terminal after reacing low resolution mode and restart lightdm X starts just fine.19:42
varikonniemithe only part of the linux stack i feel is lacking19:42
jogdishwoah that will be a huge change19:42
Daekdroomvarikonniemi, no compiz/unity?19:42
DaekdroomHow can you tell that?19:42
varikonniemibecause sompiz is not used anymore in wayland19:43
varikonniemiand unity is built around compiz19:43
DaekdroomIt's not used yet.19:43
varikonniemiwhat19:43
DaekdroomNo window manager has been fully made compatible with Wayland yet.19:43
DaekdroomWeston is a demo.19:43
varikonniemias i said, we are talking about next LTS time19:43
DaekdroomThey can work on making compiz work with Wayland.19:44
varikonniemii underastood wayland repalces this19:44
DaekdroomThe same way GNOME Shell will have to do it with Mutter, and KDE will have to do it with Kwin.19:44
egolostI think this LTS will be great, I hated the way out of the box desktop in 11.10 worked with alt+tab between the diffrent desktops.19:44
Daekdroomand if Wayland made it impossible to use Unity, of course they wouldn't make the transition to it.19:45
FernandoMiguelanyone knows of a away to determine the fw version of a 3G/LTE dongle ?19:45
DaekdroomLast but not least, Unity-2D is not dependent on any window manager :P19:45
FernandoMigueland a way to know at which speed it is connected?19:46
varikonniemii am sure there will be unity for wayland19:46
varikonniemibut it wont be running on compiz19:47
lazymanchi - i've just upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and I've got some broken packages, when I run apt-get upgrade I get messages about unmet dependencies, but the versions I have seem to be newer than the ones required: http://paste.ubuntu.com/926940/19:47
lazymancI just ran update manager -d so I'm not sure what's happened19:49
lazymancis there a way to fix this, or do I need to wait for the packages to catch up in the repos?19:50
EvilResistancelazymanc, that's probably the packages themselves, notice they have an (= 2.99.92-0ubuntu1) which means "that exact version"19:51
EvilResistancei think those packages just need revising in Precise, if/when they get updated those dependency problems will disappear19:51
MarKsaitishow do I default my sources.list ?19:52
MarKsaitisI have some crappy mirrors I believe19:52
lazymancok, so it's just a case of certain packages being out of sync with one another in the repos?19:52
EvilResistancelazymanc, sounds like it, could be worse though19:52
* EvilResistance isnt guaranteeing that what he's said is the actual cause of the problemn19:52
lazymancmost things seem to be working, I'll just keep trying over the next couple of days and hope it goes away then19:55
lazymanc"Warning please disable precise-proposed repos before upgrading to 12.04!" << just spotted that in the topic, which I didn't do because this is the first time I've seen it - maybe that has something to do with it?19:56
micahg-proposed is being used for staging updates that have skew across architectures which can cause uninstallability19:56
MarKsaitiswhere do I find a normal sources.list file for 12.04 server? I want to reset mine to default pls help20:01
jogdishGirlyGirl:  just after trying ubuntu 12.04 beta 2 live from a usb stick, on my eee pc 901 ( intel atom, 1gb ram ) boots fine, unity looks nice a little slow - but its telling me "Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error"20:02
GirlyGirljogdish: Which intel atom and gma card?20:02
jogdishGirlyGirl:     Intel Atom N270 (45 nm Diamondville, Socket 437 FCBG8A) 1.6Ghz20:03
MarKsaitis?20:03
MarKsaitishelp20:03
jogdishso im guessing yours is far better20:03
MarKsaitis:)20:03
GirlyGirljogdish: no only slightly n28020:04
GirlyGirljogdish: But my Ram is 2GB and cl=420:04
jogdishGirlyGirl:  still the unity bar and switching all run nice for me, and this is all from live usb,20:05
GirlyGirljogdish: Does it feel better than 11.10?20:05
jogdishGirlyGirl: I never used Ubuntu 11.1020:05
jogdishhow do i activate the HUD?20:06
GirlyGirlMarKsaitis: http://paste.kde.org/456368/20:06
MarKsaitisGirlyGirl, thanx ;]20:07
GirlyGirljogdish: alt20:07
GirlyGirlI think20:08
jogdishGirlyGirl:  thx, wow thats nice!20:08
MarKsaitiswhy would I also want deb-src near deb in sources.list?20:08
GirlyGirlMarKsaitis: its default20:08
jogdishGirlyGirl: I love my KDE, by since this no longer supported by canonical thing, migh go back to ubuntu20:09
GirlyGirlMarKsaitis: allows you to get sources using apt if you want20:09
jogdishGirlyGirl: if you can, you should try the beta out for yourself, im very impressed! run it from usb stick with http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/20:14
GirlyGirljogdish: I have Kubuntu precise ... I might install ubuntu-desktop later20:15
GirlyGirljogdish: I'm too used to kde to shift ... been using it since 200420:15
jogdishGirlyGirl:  how is Precise working for you? I am holding off till the release date20:15
GirlyGirlSo far fine20:16
jogdishGirlyGirl: I really like my oneric20:16
jogdishKDE20:16
danielcHi, anyone here is having problems with Skype on 64bits machines on Precise?20:17
danielcSometimes my skype freezes, but I can't tell it is frozen until I try to quit it.20:17
GirlyGirldanielc: 32 bit working for me20:17
GirlyGirldanielc: but it freezes rarely yes20:17
danielcSince I started to use the 64bit version of Ubuntu, I'm getting it almost every time.20:18
GirlyGirlfor me its really rare20:19
danielcThe bizarre thing is that it seems to keep working, but does not send or receive any messages/calls and really freezes only when I try to quit. Then I must kill -9 it.20:19
danielcGirlyGirl: Yeah, i had the same behaviour before upgrading to Precise...20:19
danielcSad.. Skype is a important tool for me and I'm almost regrating my upgrade to Precise. And this problem is happening in more than one machine.20:21
danielcI think it is strange that I cannot find other bug reports or comments on this problem elsewhere.20:21
aboSamoorhow can I login as a differnet user than the ones specified in the lightdm list?20:29
Nutilyhello, how to check if I have corectly installed 64bit java..?20:31
trismaboSamoor: in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf add greeter-show-manual-login=true20:33
Nutilytrism, can you help me install java?20:35
FernandoMiguelmicahg: so devel has an extra devel repo I didn't know about? #inception20:36
micahgFernandoMiguel: just became available a week or so ago20:37
Daekdroomprecise-proposed is available already?20:37
trismNutily: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#OpenJDK20:37
FernandoMigueldanielc: it dies a lot . and yes, it freezes on several of the starts20:38
micahgbug 93021720:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 930217 in Launchpad itself "Make proposed pocket useful for staging uploads" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93021720:38
FernandoMiguelmicahg: anything there that needs testing?20:38
FernandoMiguelI have a bunch of laptops to install next week20:38
FernandoMiguelI can put my users to the test *evil laugh*20:39
=== himcesjf|py is now known as himcesjf
Nutilytrism: i was there and i installed java 64 bin from java.com20:39
micahgFernandoMiguel: no, it's mainly used to prevent arch skew for most users of the pre-release20:39
Nutilytrism: and i think that it not working right, how to chec if it works?20:39
FernandoMiguelk20:40
micahgFernandoMiguel: packages are copied over once their dependency chains are built20:40
FernandoMiguelmicahg: do you know anyone that masters NM? I haven't  seen asac around20:40
micahgFernandoMiguel: he hasn't handled that for about 2 years, talk to cyphermox20:40
FernandoMiguelmicahg: I know he hasn't ... but I didn't know who to talk to. thanks20:41
FernandoMiguelcyphermox: ping20:41
trismNutily: I haven't used the java from there for a long time, so I don't really know, the link I have points to the openjdk section which is in the repos20:42
Nutilytrism, will OpenJDK be as good as Sun Java..?20:43
trismNutily: I hardly ever use java, so I don't really have an opinion, but it has worked fine for me in the few situations I use it20:44
Nutilyi dont have sound for xchat when my name writen.. wierd..20:44
danielcFernandoMiguel: are you aware of any workarounds for Skype freezing?20:46
FernandoMiguelyes20:47
FernandoMiguelopenninig it again20:47
FernandoMiguel:!20:47
danielcha ha ha!20:48
danielcThe worst is that sometimes it takes me several minutes before even noticing that Skype is not working.20:48
danielcUsually someone send me an e-mail or gtalk message to ask me why I'm not replying.20:48
danielc:P20:48
Nutilycan somone help me with java 64bit..?20:49
ArnoldNutily, I was able to install Oracle JRE 7 quite easily with a tutorial on Precise Pangolin.20:49
ArnoldNutily, check this first: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp20:49
FernandoMigueldanielc: just kill -9 it20:50
FernandoMigueland launch again20:50
NutilyArnold, that show that plugin is missing..20:50
ArnoldNutily, you could follow this unofficial guide for a workaround: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-runtime-jre-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/20:50
ArnoldJust tested it myself and it works just fine.20:50
NutilyArnold, that will be 64 bit?20:51
NutilyArnold, and will it work also for my chromium browser?20:51
ArnoldNutily, I only tested it on my 32-bit system. And I'll see if it works on Chromium too.20:51
danielcFernandoMiguel: kill -9 is a very appropriate solution for a product that nows belongs to Microsoft. It is the 'restart' solution, Unix way. :)20:52
NutilyArnold, i think that i need install 2 versions of java one is 64 bit for 64bit java apps and one 32bit for chromium browser20:52
FernandoMigueldanielc: LOL20:53
ArnoldNutily, yes, it works with Chromium Browser too, without any other modification than based on the tutorial.20:54
Nutilyarnold, is there any wha to test if i have any version installed..?21:01
LoRezPici: I figured out the cause of my issues with the InRelease file, although I think that was just a symptom as well21:02
cyphermoxFernandoMiguel: pong.21:03
FernandoMiguelhey hey cyphermox21:03
FernandoMiguelplease check #nm21:03
FernandoMiguelless lines than here :)21:03
cyphermoxyes21:03
=== napsy_ is now known as Guest80522
jeremiah_why does the wifi in ubuntu not work for me any more? one time i booted, it looked as if wifi didn't exist.21:09
BarkingFishjeremiah_, were you using an inbuilt module for your wifi, or using ndiswrapper?21:13
jeremiah_BarkingFish, ??? i do not uderstand21:13
BarkingFishjeremiah_, you were using wifi, correct?21:13
FernandoMiguelwhat to use in d-feet for a bus?21:14
BarkingFishThere are two ways for wifi to work - either from a module in ubuntu's kernel, or by using the windows driver with a program called ndiswrapper.  Do you know which one you used?21:14
jeremiah_BarkingFish, yes.21:14
BarkingFishjeremiah_, read the next part too :) It will help me to work out what could be wrong21:15
jeremiah_i was useing ubuntus module21:15
BarkingFishok21:15
BarkingFishcan you tell me which kernel you are using, please, jeremiah_?21:16
=== diegovieiraeti is now known as diegovieira
jeremiah_BarkingFish, what do you mean??? when i installed ubuntu, i had wifi. now i don't.21:17
BarkingFish:)21:17
BarkingFishok. Can you open a terminal up for me please, jeremiah_ - and type this:  uname -r21:18
BarkingFishthat will tell you the name of the kernel you are running.21:18
jeremiah_3.2.0-20-generic21:18
BarkingFishright - that kernel has been updated since you got it.  could you try to update your system first, please, and then see if you still have that problem?21:19
BarkingFishevening JontheEchidna :)21:20
JontheEchidnahello21:20
JontheEchidnajust got back from my Digital class at school21:21
BarkingFishi wish I was still at school :P  it'd be more fun than work, Jon :)21:21
JontheEchidnawe made a singleshot timer with a 555 timer and some capacitors21:21
JontheEchidnathen hooked that up to an astable multivibrator21:22
jeremiah_BarkingFish, 3.2.0-20-generic21:22
BarkingFishnice. The good old NE555.21:22
BarkingFishjeremiah_, ok, see my next message :)21:22
JontheEchidnayeppers21:22
BarkingFishThe kernel you're using has changed, jeremiah_ - you should put an update through first, and then see if you still have that problem21:23
jeremiah_errg. i forgots the commands for it....21:23
BarkingFishin the terminal, type:  sudo apt-get update21:23
jeremiah_thanks.21:24
BarkingFishno problem21:24
jeremiah_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)21:24
jeremiah_E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/21:24
jeremiah_BarkingFish, i got that command....21:24
BarkingFishok, have you got any update programs open in ubuntu at the moment, jeremiah_?21:24
Daekdroomjeremiah_, that is because there's something else trying to update packages.21:24
Daekdroomor update package info.21:25
jeremiah_Daekdroom, but i have nothing open or running...21:25
jeremiah_Daekdroom, how is that done?21:25
DaekdroomYou might have Ubuntu set to check for updates by itself.21:25
jeremiah_but my kernel is not correct.21:26
jeremiah_and BarkingFish said i need to update21:26
BarkingFishWhat I said was, you're using an old kernel, and having a problem with something. There is a newer kernel out which might fix it, so you should update first, and then tell us if you still have the problem :)21:27
jeremiah_BarkingFish, but i can't!21:27
tanathhas the samba root exploit been patched in repos yet?21:28
BarkingFishi know. I might be better to leave this to Daekdroom or someone who knows ubuntu better, I use Kubuntu, but what we do generally works for Ubuntu as well21:28
DaekdroomYeah. When it comes to doing package upgrades, Kubuntu and Ubuntu aren't much different.21:28
BarkingFishI just don't know the programs Ubuntu uses for package checking and stuff21:28
Daekdroomupdate-manager, mostly.21:29
BarkingFishIs it possible to kill that from the command line, Daekdroom?21:29
jeremiah_i guess i could update via synaptic....21:29
BarkingFishjeremiah_, while something else is updating, your usual stuff probably won't work21:30
BarkingFishwe need to find what's updating you first :)21:30
jeremiah_BarkingFish, so?21:30
jeremiah_oh.21:30
BarkingFishin your terminal, could you type: psaux | grep update-manager21:30
BarkingFishsorry, ps -aux21:31
jeremiah_command not found.21:31
BarkingFishfollowed by the rest of that line - so  ps -aux | grep update-manager21:31
jeremiah_psaux: command not found21:31
jeremiah_Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html21:32
jeremiah_jeremiah  3052  0.0  0.0  13576   932 pts/1    S+   16:32   0:00 grep --color=auto update-manager21:32
* BarkingFish scratches his head21:32
BarkingFishjust knock out the - then21:32
jeremiah_Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html21:33
jeremiah_jeremiah  3074  0.0  0.0  13576   928 pts/1    S+   16:33   0:00 grep --color=auto update-manage21:33
jeremiah_hang on.21:33
jeremiah_didn't work either way...21:34
BarkingFishright, so update-manager isn't running, which means something else is trying to update your system, or you possibly have a stale lock file21:34
BarkingFishat this point, i am not prepared to risk asking you to delete the lock file, in case it's not stale and I screw things up, I'll leave you in someone else's capable hands :)21:35
jeremiah_but i neeeeeeeeeeeeed wifi!!!21:36
BarkingFishDaekdroom, think you might be able to take this one over please?21:36
Daekdroomjeremiah_, does 'ps aux | grep apt' return anything?21:37
jeremiah_ya21:37
jeremiah_Daekdroom, http://pastebin.com/fvacfcxu21:41
DaekdroomIs Synaptic currently doing anything?21:42
jeremiah_ya...21:43
DaekdroomWhat?21:43
jeremiah_ya....21:43
DaekdroomWhat is it doing?21:43
DaekdroomUpdating repository information? Updating packages?21:43
jeremiah_noting now.21:43
DaekdroomHm.21:43
jeremiah_but ya. that is what it was21:43
DaekdroomThen close it and run ' sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock '21:44
jeremiah_ok...21:44
jeremiah_Daekdroom, ok...21:46
Daekdroomthen open synaptic again, click 'Reload' and see if it's working now.21:46
DonaldShimodaji21:47
jeremiah_synaptic was always working...21:47
DonaldShimodaanybody experiencing sound problems with youtube ?21:47
jeremiah_Daekdroom, synaptic was always working...21:47
DaekdroomWas it?21:47
jeremiah_ya...21:48
jeremiah_Daekdroom, ya...21:48
DaekdroomThen this was unnecessary.21:48
DaekdroomMostly likely whatever was locking apt got done since you saw the error message.21:49
DonaldShimodaanybody experiencing sound problems with youtube?21:49
jeremiah_but i want wifi....21:49
DonaldShimodastarted after a update today21:49
Daekdroomjeremiah_, then do system upgrades and try it.21:50
jeremiah_ok...21:50
jeremiah_Daekdroom, ok. this might take a little wiles.... so speek to you when it is fin.21:52
=== diegovieiraeti is now known as diegovieira
lo0mhi, how do I reenable hibernate option in unity 12.04 ?22:00
etfbVery odd update behaviour.  Why does dist-upgrade want to remove Unity and the Ubuntu Desktop today?22:09
Daekdroometfb, dependency breakage.22:10
DaekdroomDon't do a dist-upgrade.22:10
Daekdroom(for now)22:10
trismlo0m: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-modify-policykit-to-allow-hibernation-in-upower22:10
lo0mtrism: thanks22:14
xerxesHello im having some issues with my ubuntu 12.0422:34
xerxesim using gnome 3 atm22:34
xerxesbut the thing is.. i want to be able to use the zoom tool22:34
xerxeslike previous ubuntu versions could use Enhanced desktop zoom with compiz22:34
xerxesi followed this tutorial here22:34
xerxeshttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/compiz-like-mousewheel-zoom-tool-for.html22:34
etfbDaekdroom: how long do breakages like that last?  Not worried - I understand this is the price we pay for stability.  Just curious.22:49
Daekdroometfb, for me, usually waiting until the next morning works.22:50
DaekdroomBecause all is necessary is a package rebuild.22:50
etfbDaekdroom: Cool.22:50
=== yofel_ is now known as yofel
martinphonewhat can you tell me about future versions of ubuntu and ia32-libs-multiarch? I cannot install google earth 64 bits on a 64 bit laptop because that unresolvable dependency appears22:58
micahgmartinphone: it's uninstallable at the moment due to archive arch skew, give it a bit and try again22:58
martinphonemicahg, 12.10?22:59
micahgmultiarch is the way forward22:59
Daekdroom'give it a bit and try again' = try tomorrow23:00
Daekdroomor a few hours23:00
micahgah, yes, sorry :)23:00
martinphonea new expression to be added to my list of english expressions23:00
MountainX Kubuntu 12.04 is not shutting down properly for me. It hangs at the blue screen with Kubuntu logo. Anyone else see this?23:06
FernandoMiguelMountainX: me23:06
FernandoMiguelone out of 8 times it won't reboot/shutdown23:07
martinphoneMountainX, I cannot see plymouth welcoming screen, i see it when logging out...23:07
martinphoneI have only turned it down 4 times...23:07
martinphonebeta2?23:07
MountainXis there a bug report we can jump in on?23:08
MountainXyes, beta223:08
meisth0thhello23:08
martinphoneo sorry, KUbuntu...23:08
martinphoneim using XUbuntu23:08
meisth0thi asked in #ubuntu and they redirected me to here, is it better for an end user to install 12.04 final beta now?23:08
nik90meisth0th, it is ok to upgrade now, but considering you waited so long...why no wait for another few days...23:10
MountainXmeisth0th: 12.04 beta2 is generally OK for me. It has a few bugs, but in my experience, the final release always has bugs too. They are often the same bugs that never get fixed from the beta or RC. :(23:10
nik90you will get the official stable release23:10
meisth0thnik90, now i have another distro installed, i am switching to ubuntu tonight :)23:10
MountainXanyone know of a bug report on the shutdown problem?23:11
meisth0thwhat is the release date of 12.04?23:11
MountainXthis sounds similar to my problem (not exactly the same): http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57977-12-04-Beta1-Wireless-and-unmounting-network-shares-at-shutdown23:12
MountainXhow do you file a bug report on something that happens at shutdown? No way to get any debugging info afaik.23:13
BarkingFishAny chance of a little help please?  I've just run some upgrades which have changed my kernel to a -23 series, but even though I have ndiswrapper-dkms on here, the dkms is not updating when the rest of the updates go through. As a result, when I get into the new kernel on first reboot, I have no internet.23:16
BarkingFishAny ideas?23:16
MountainXmeisth0th: release is expected 2012-04-26 I think23:18
yofelBarkingFish: does 'dkms status' list ndiswrapper?23:18
BarkingFishit will do at the moment, yes, cause I had to drop back to the 22 series kernel I had on before the update in order to get on the net23:19
BarkingFishactually, no it doesn't23:19
BarkingFish:/23:19
yofeldoesn't matter, it should show it for all present kernels it's built for23:19
yofelo.O23:19
BarkingFishi'll pastebin what it's showinh23:19
BarkingFish*showing23:19
=== tlyu_ is now known as tlyu
BarkingFishhold on a mo, gotta apt-get pastebinit :)23:20
BarkingFishyofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/927206/23:22
* yofel wouldn't be surprised about dkms failing over that ^^23:24
BarkingFishthis wouldn't have happened if ndiswrapper had been kept "in-kernel"23:26
yofelBarkingFish: can you pastebin your /usr/src/<ndiswrapper folder name>/dkms.conf ?23:26
BarkingFishIt's the same with call centers, yofel - the service always drops when you don't keep it in house :P23:26
BarkingFishsure23:26
yofellol23:26
BarkingFishhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/927208/23:27
alex_mayorgadist-upgrade is trying to remove ubuntu-desktop again?23:30
Daekdroomalex_mayorga, then don't do dist-upgrade.23:31
alex_mayorgaDaekdroom: I know better by now, just wondering if it is known23:31
DaekdroomIt's been mentioned in here, but I'm not sure whether a developer knows about it.23:32
yofelBarkingFish: ah, ndiswrapper 1.57-1ubuntu1 has a fixed file, but seems stuck in the archive queue23:32
DaekdroomWow. There are a lot of bug reports regarding that.23:33
yofelBarkingFish: or you can pick the debs from the build for your architecture on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/ndiswrapper/1.57-1ubuntu123:37
bcuraboyhi.does anyone know if the package gir1.2-dee-0.5 will land in precise?23:37
BarkingFishexcellent, I'll drag that down instead, and see if I can get that to work on the 23 kernel23:37
yofelbcuraboy: it was removed from precise, -1.0 replaces it23:38
bcuraboyand how can i add that package to my system?23:39
yofelwhich one?23:39
bcuraboyor where can i find it?23:39
bcuraboythe -1.023:39
yofel!info gir1.2-dee-1.023:39
yofel 23:39
ubottugir1.2-dee-1.0 (source: dee): GObject introspection data for the Dee library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.8-0ubuntu2 (precise), package size 12 kB, installed size 104 kB23:39
yofelin the archive23:39
bcuraboyso it will be available in the original repos of the system?23:40
yofelyes23:40
bcuraboylet me check that23:40
yofel(already is)23:40
BarkingFishyofel, back in a bit, have to go up to the 23 kernel and install the packages I just pulled down. See you in a bit23:40
bcuraboyinstalled on the system by default?23:40
yofelgood luck23:40
yofelthat I don't know23:40
bcuraboyit seems already is installed by default23:42
bcuraboyso let me make the correct question: there's an ppa that it allows me to play unity videos on vlc...23:42
bcuraboybut i have to add the ppa and when i'm trying to install the supposed scope,it tells me that it has no longer support23:43
bcuraboyit says that it depends on gir 1.2-dee 0.5 but that is not instalable23:44
Daekdroombcuraboy, wait for the PPA to be updated.23:44
bcuraboyis that the correct word? :/23:44
DaekdroomThe package in the PPA must be built against gir1.2-dee-1.023:45
Daekdroom*rebuilt23:45
bcuraboyhmm so i will have to wait,is that?23:46
DaekdroomYeah.23:46
DaekdroomIt's one of the cons of providing a PPA for a Ubuntu version in development. They break all the time.23:46
yofelyou might want to send the ppa owner a mail - he might not have noticed it being broken23:47
bcuraboybut,by the way,how can i watch youtube search videos on vlc?23:47
bcuraboywhen i search them on unity lens how to play them on vlc??23:47
DaekdroomI think setting VLC as your default video player is enough.23:48
DaekdroomUnder System Settings > System > Details > Default applications (or something like that)23:48
DaekdroomUnless you mean YouTube videos.23:49
bcuraboyi've made my comment on the page of the author of the ppa23:49
bcuraboylet me check that solution23:50
bcuraboyyes,i mean youtube videos23:50
DaekdroomThen that won't work :(23:51
bcuraboyhmmm,now i see why some people tell us to wait for the final version of the SO23:52
bcuraboyOS23:52
bcuraboyanyway,was nice to get some support from you guys23:53
bcuraboy :D23:53
twistolimei'm about to install latest lubuntu precise daily, but read on the forums there is an issue with full disk install. anyone know about this?23:57
twistolimewhat to do if this happens?23:57
dasenI installed ubuntu precise, not lubuntu, sorry can't help you there23:58
twistolimeya, i'm just wondering if the installer totally crashes, or allows manual setup23:59

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!