[00:00] you prbly wont help. i bet 5 bucks [00:00] more like wont be able to help [00:01] So what is the best gui ? also can i make the native ubuntu just like xubuntu and kubuntu? [00:01] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M64-S [Mobility Radeon X2300] [00:03] neooo: no real "best" GUI... it's all opinion... you can install xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop on your current installl, and be able to select your GUI at the login screen, but that ends up a discombobulated mess in my opinion. [00:05] Yeah. You'll have a huge amount of apps installed. [00:09] Daekdroom: i wish there was a way to keep all that separate. [00:10] KM0201, i take it as you wont help. [00:10] or cant [00:11] can't [00:11] sorry [00:11] i thought i had replied to you [00:11] jeremiah__: and you say "additional drivers" doesn't show an ATI drive you can install? [00:11] KM0201, so its the default gui that i should stick with? [00:11] doesn't show a thing. [00:12] jeremiah__, whats the issue? matbe i can help [00:12] well, "I" would... if you want to try the other GUI's (KDE, XFCE,LXDE).. download their respective ISO's (kubuntu.org , xubuntu.org , lubuntu.net) and try them on a live USB.. if you like one over the other, then i would just clean install it over Ubuntu [00:12] jeremiah__: hmm [00:13] only thing i can figure, is seeing if ATI has a driver on their site. [00:13] X2300 does not have support by the AMD Catalyst driver since 9.04, I think [00:13] ah, i see [00:14] i didn't think that device was that old [00:14] The open source driver, however, should work very well with it. [00:14] brb, nned to reboot [00:14] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/946572 [00:14] Launchpad bug 946572 in unity "unity in Precise freezes randomly, but pointer moves and can switch to tty" [Undecided,Incomplete] [00:14] jeremiah__: does that look like what you're experiencing? [00:15] neooo, ubuntu freezes for me time to time and i have installed ubuntu 12.04, 11.10 twice, both of them from diff. discs and they kept freezing for me, and one time didn't boot. that was for the first three. it has not died yet for this one. [00:15] KM0201, yes, that is what happens. how do i switch? [00:15] switch what? [00:16] to tty [00:16] oh.. alt +.. f1,f2, f3, f4, f5, and i think f6 brings you back (i don't use tty that often) [00:16] that is what happens, it freezes, but my mouse still moves [00:16] ???? [00:17] you asked how to switch to tty [00:17] explain [00:17] !tty [00:17] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution. [00:17] i didn't understand [00:17] there you go, thank you arand [00:18] so why swicth to a terminal looking thing? someone told me to do this but never gave a reason. [00:19] some people just like to use it. [00:19] you asked how to switch, so we told you. [00:20] but what does it do?! [00:20] i don't think changing screen resulution will fix it.... [00:20] no, it's not a resolution issue. [00:21] Daekdroom: said to try installing the driver... (i think you have to do that from ATI's site).. i've never done that, and don't have the first clue how. [00:21] so what do i do when i open tty? [00:21] frankly, i'd just dump 3D, and go w/ one of the 2D desktops (lxde or xfce) and not worry about it... i'm assuming this machine is not for gaming [00:21] jeremiah__: i told you, i don't know, i don't use ATI [00:21] lol, does ubuntu even needs AMD card's drivers? [00:21] He CAN'T install the driver from ATI's website. [00:22] oh. [00:22] The Catalyst driver doesn't support that card anymore [00:22] why not? [00:22] ohhhh..ok [00:22] why? [00:22] and neooo is right. [00:22] then i'd just switch to 2D.. [00:22] The opensource driver Ubuntu ships is VERY good. [00:22] KM0201, you don't get it! He doesn't have to! [00:22] i'm saying if it's a graphics card problem (which that bug report seemed to suggest) [00:22] The only ones that really need the driver from the AMD website are those that have cards the opensource driver doesn't support well yet. [00:23] (and those that want to play games, or need good powersaving) [00:23] like me, who has nvidia [00:24] btw, are there any good multiplayer games? [00:24] Yeah. Nvidia's drivers support some very ancient cards (but they don't do anything to help the opensource driver develpment) [00:25] yeppp, i have 8400gs [00:25] lol [00:25] i don't mind a "closed" driver, so long as it is well maintained and supported.. and frankly, Nvidia's is. [00:27] any good multiplayer game? [00:27] i used to really like urban terror [00:28] but haven't played in a long time [00:28] then there was that other one that was popular. [00:29] alien arena [00:29] tremulous [00:29] i never cared for tremulous [00:29] but back in the day, i played urban terror and alien arena a lot [00:30] hmmm [00:31] i have played Urban terror in windows [00:31] nice game [00:31] yeah, urban terror was one of my favs [00:31] i spent a lot of time on that game [00:31] but when i use windows i play Tf2 [00:31] the best [00:31] but i reclassified my old PC to a file server, and only use laptops now, and i hate playing games on laptops [00:32] everyone does [00:33] i've beenc onsiderng getting me a 360 [00:33] this one looks good [00:33] teewords [00:33] get a 360 what? [00:33] xbox 360 [00:33] i don't have a console [00:33] oh [00:33] my parents wont let me [00:34] looks like a kids game to me (teeworlds) [00:34] you might like tuxracer [00:34] or supertuxkart (mario kart clone).. i liked that one also. [00:36] alright boys and girls [00:36] who uses Google Calendar? [00:36] not i [00:37] I added a CalDAV to Evolution for Google Calendar but it's not showing up in the calender thing on Gnome Shell [00:37] click the date at the top and it just says no events for tomorrow, when my google calendar clearly has an event tomorrow [00:37] ... but gnome shell does give me pop up reminders... [00:43] hello peoples! i just updated to precise from oneiric on a del xps, and i'm getting hard locks whenever i try too boot the new 3.2 kernel. how can i save the kernel buffer to fill a bug report? [00:43] ie, save the output immediately before the hard lock [00:44] how do you fix coreutils, debianutils, gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libssl1.0.0, libstdc++6, libuuid1, python-apt, python-apt-common, tar [00:55] how do you fix coreutils, debianutils, gcc-4.6-base, libgcc1, libssl1.0.0, libstdc++6, libuuid1, python-apt, python-apt-common, tar [01:06] jeremiah__: What do you mean? [01:12] ubuntu brought up an error, asked to report it, clicked yes, and it said it couldn't send report because these were broken [01:13] Try running: sudo apt-get install -f [01:15] errg. hang on. i am installing something else and it is busy so i have to wait.... [01:39] Logan_, still here? [01:39] Hi. [01:40] ok. good. i am now running it... [01:41] now what? [01:42] Did you receive a response? [01:42] yes [01:43] I think i have it installed though. it says 0 newly installed and all dat stuff [01:43] is dmraid broken on the 12.04 installer? [01:44] fall0ut, are ye talking to me? [01:45] jeremiah__, doubtful, usually on irc people address the user directly, when they don't it is a general statement or question in this case to the channel [01:46] pangolin, logan is talking to me but he is not addressing me. [01:46] and most people do that. [01:46] true. I did say usually :) [01:47] Hi. [01:47] it appears to be broken heh [01:47] Logan_, hi. [01:47] fall0ut: Are you using the latest daily build? [01:47] I'm using beta2 CD [01:48] If something's broken on Beta 2, then it's probably fixed on the daily. [01:48] lemme try the latest [01:48] beta2 doesn't see any dmraid disks [01:48] and you can activate dmraid yourself from the console [01:49] * Logan_ is not sure. :-P [01:49] Did it work in previous versions of Ubuntu? [01:50] no clue [01:50] new install [01:50] i got it [01:50] had to run r [01:51] yay, gnome shell integration with google calendar :) [02:04] <_klk_> hi all, i'm having trouble setting up a wireless connection on ubuntu server 12.04 [02:05] <_klk_> here is the iwconfig output: [02:05] <_klk_> http://pastebin.com/RgEvqEQQ [02:06] hey do you know why i get this error when i try and do a apt-get dist-upgrade http://paste.ssfdre38.com/1 [02:06] <_klk_> and here is the /etc/network/interfaces [02:06] <_klk_> http://pastebin.com/zjP1rZcT [02:07] <_klk_> when i do sudo ifup wlan0 i only get msgs of the following type in syslog: [02:07] <_klk_> Apr 11 19:00:27 capdev0 dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 [02:08] <_klk_> does anyone have any tips for debugging this? [02:18] hello :) [02:19] Is the update process frozen at this point? Or is it still changing/improving [02:19] There are a lot of bugfixes coming. [02:19] And some feature freeze exceptions here and there. [02:24] oh, ok, i might as well wait until then :P [02:42] hmm [02:42] sysfs is not permanent, is it? [02:43] or persistent, i should say [02:44] I'm trying to get more information on a bug during installation during the 'Setup and Install Package' step. All the information the log says is "Depends: xxx but it is not installable". How can I try and get more information about hwy it is not installable? === jbicha is now known as Guest73631 [03:04] hmm [03:05] any idea how to make changes to sysfs stick?.. === Guest73631 is now known as jbicha_ [03:21] Hi guys. Can anyone give me an idea of 802.11n usb dongle support in 12.04? Are there known working manufacturers or chipsets? [03:22] drp: you can try them live... id save the reciepts... you never know when a chipset gets changed or whatever [03:24] :) Ok, thanks. The last time I really looked into this is 10.04, and the answer was bascially the same. [03:25] drp: the answer will never change [03:25] drp: the vendors that produce them *can* support linux anytime.. broadcom actually is or was recently [03:26] drp: still i believe it when i see it.. and save the recipts.. or buy hardware from a place like system76 [03:29] You bet, thanks for your time holstein. [03:31] drp: sure... good luck! === CQ_ is now known as CQ [03:49] hey guys quick question. im doing sudo do-release-upgrade -d; on my 1gram eeepc netbook from 10.04 to 12.04. Think this is a good idea? A little late now its already doing it but I want to make sure my computer can even run it [03:52] not a good idea [03:52] try a live usb first [03:53] a bit late for that lol. we'll see how it goes I suppose. Ill be sure to report for future screw-ups [03:53] in the mean time im downloading an image in case I need it [04:04] plustax, you did a backup first, right? [04:11] Belial`, no, but I dont care. nothing on it to backup [04:22] plustax: I have absolutely no idea why you chose to ask this late, then. :) But all the best to you and your system. *grin* [04:22] astraljava, lol I turned it off. liveusb fresh install time lol [04:32] hi, is there a date fixed on which precise is the stable? [04:34] a couple weeks tops [04:35] vn: Stabilization phase is on-going, final freeze happens tonight (UTC time). Who's to say, though, how late bugs are still found? [04:35] I mean, software business would be pretty easy if it was _hat_ predictable. :) [04:36] that* [04:37] indeed, I'm just bored at work, cant wait to proceed to apt-get dist-upgrade [04:43] vn: If you're bored, I highly recommend to upgrade. Chances are your boredom vanishes immediately. :D [04:44] Or how is it said, "highly recommend upgrading"? That sounds a bit better, yeah. [04:51] heh [04:51] ofc but not a good idea necessarily for production env' ;) [04:58] It's usually not that risky upgrading when it's this close to release; especially when you're not using proprietary video drivers and the upcoming release is an LTS. So upgrading now wouldn't exactly make you a daredevil :) [05:00] not even using GUI stuff... [05:00] its basically LAMPs, bind9, mailman, BEX clients, vmware-tools, .. [05:02] Yeah well, it's a production system, do not play with an unnecessary risk. I'd even hold off a month after the release before upgrading. [05:03] vn, that's not the kind of stuff that's that exciting to upgrade. :) What new features are you looking for? Will you really notice that much of a difference? [05:05] hmm.. 12.04 won't boot any more after this mornings update? [05:07] astraljava: yea, my plan exactly...sadly [05:07] len: nothing much seriously.. [05:07] is apt-get dist-upgrade still the way to go? [05:12] vn, If you're just looking for something to do, why not just load a copy onto someone's old decommissioned workstation and test it out? [05:14] im not that bored but I guess I could yep [05:25] for some reason, grub had lost everything [05:25] manually specifying things let me boot [05:25] any idea why this would happen? [05:25] there was a kernel update [05:57] So, My T42 won't boot the 32-bit install CD due to the kernel wanting PAE and the processor not having it. I hear rumours that PAE support is being totally dropped. [05:57] http://news.softpedia.com/news/i386-non-PAE-Kernel-To-Be-Removed-from-Ubuntu-12-04-234434.shtml [05:59] cjs: try a lubuntu or xubuntu ISO [05:59] Hm. So non-PAE support is still available, it's just not installable via the regular ISO? [05:59] yes, for 12.04 [06:01] cjs: lubuntu is just downright sexy [06:02] I use the XFCE session manager, so I can live with installing Xubuntu. Though it always seemed to act a bit different from Ubuntu with the xfce desktop package installed. [06:02] lubuntu just had too much broken stuff for me when I tried it with 11.10. [06:03] Xubuntu is working very nicely [06:04] Hey, did they fix the issues with the panel and full screen? [06:04] i don't care for xfce4 [06:04] what issue? [06:04] On all my laptops, maximizing a window (in fvwm) puts part of it behind the panel, and on at least one, full-screen video still has the panel over top of it. [06:04] This was never a problem with gnome-panel. [06:05] i use xfwm that comes with xfce... [06:05] and there is no such issue [06:06] alt f11, or full screen apps such as wine, screen savers, vlc, no problems [06:06] with and without composite effects [06:09] Yeah, so I wonder if the xfce window manager and panel deal with this in a non-standard way. [06:11] you might want to ask the xfce ppl, or the fvwm, it's been at least a decade since i last touched fvwm [06:15] cjs: once you install, you can add whatever desktop env you want [06:16] micahg: Yup, I am pretty well aware of that, since I run a very heavily customized desktop environment. [06:16] Artemis3: Heck, I only upgraded from fvwm1 to fvwm2 a few years ago. :-) [06:31] Hi, my kde-telepathy instant messaging presence plasmoid has no icon so its invisible on the taskbar but works if I right click on the area where it is. [07:25] hello, i am running precise and am sad to inform you that the volume slider still does not work for me. It worked in 11.04, but stopped working in 11.10 [07:25] so is this a result from switching from gnome2 to gnome3, is this a linux kernel regression, or what do you think [07:26] where should i file a bug report? I tried asking about this in the forums when 11.10 was released, but no-one seemed able to have anything to chip in on the problem [07:29] it's an obvious software issue [07:29] if the volume applet is not working [07:30] definitely not a kernel regression === GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl [07:53] hey, upgrading to precise seems to break groupwise (http://paste.ubuntu.com/926070). This happens when opening an email (i.e. rendering html), other functionality doesn't seem to be affected. Any idea on how to get to the bottom of this? [07:56] KM0201, it works as on/off switch [07:56] Hi, how can I enable a verbose boot screen? I removed the quiet option in /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub, but I still see no messages [07:57] at least hitting esc should show you the text, iirc [08:03] varikonniemi: if possible I'd like a boot screen that looks like this: http://images.brighthub.com/73/D/73D7266B1653A9BA0998797C8A2F951DE45FB071_large.jpg [08:04] ok, that i have never before seen [08:07] varikonniemi: It's from the following presentation http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/39504.aspx#secn_1 and although he uses grub1 he says to just remove the quiet option, but it's not working for me === krnekhelesh is now known as nik90 [08:40] Apr 12 10:21:38 varikonniemi-desktop rsyslogd-2039: Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole' [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ] [08:40] i get this on every startup, is there a way to fix it? [09:09] The screen lock behaviour changed in Ubuntu 12. [09:09] Where can I find the code controlling this? [09:16] Anyone…? [09:19] knizz: ? [09:39] i am on studio 12.04 and using gnome classic... i can't right click and go to panel properties anymore.. and i think i am missing my tray icons to things like pidgin and truecrypt [09:59] osirisx111, right clic + [09:59] alt * [09:59] right clic + alt sorry ** [09:59] alt + RC in fact ... [09:59] ooo alttt ty! [10:16] splash doen't work on asus notebook [10:19] hello everybody~ [10:19] hello mars [10:19] are u on PP already [10:20] mars___ [10:20] mars__ [10:20] who can i chat ? [10:20] on pp? what means? [10:22] Hi all. What happened to the options to change the speaker layout? The sub on my laptop isn't working [10:22] Precise pangoline [10:22] :p [10:23] Moar liek blunt blunstrument [10:23] is it a Gnome thing? [10:26] what is it? [10:26] oh i don't know what you said . [10:26] the sound settings panel in gnome-control-center [10:28] i thank you for him . [10:28] "gnome-control-center sound-nua" apparently... hrm where do I get this src? === xaphir_ is now known as xaphir [10:30] looks like ,only i'm talking to you . [10:33] ugh. looks like the Ubuntu version has a million patches [10:34] yes ,there are many.and where are you from? [10:35] are you England? [10:35] Yes [10:37] where do i set the default browser in unity? (precise) [10:38] ugh,the ubuntu ,he could let me quit the game. [10:38] how do you think ? [10:39] in System -> Details ... sigh, how logical [10:41] i also do not understand.sorry. [10:42] vega-_: looks like that's named badly. I wonder if there's a bug for that [10:42] It should be called "Defaults" or something [10:43] also Chromium ought to change that setting, but it doesn't [10:44] yeah default applications should be separate from system information [10:44] That's a gnome3 thing. [10:45] arand, is the removal of the speaker configuration also a gnome3 thing? [10:45] I'd like to know who to whine at for removing that [10:45] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657012 [10:45] Gnome bug 657012 in Other Preferences "Default Applications settings are hard to find" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [10:46] bitplane-: That I don [10:47] ..'t know, I'm guessing so, and that you'd be using the pulsaudio configuration to do that... [10:48] bitplane-: well, not that it's "behind" Details you cannot search for it with the search-thingie or whatever it is called when you press the windows keyu [10:48] not=now [10:48] bitplane-: pavucontrl, possibly [10:49] super, thanks! [10:52] hmm, okay.. is there a profile editor for this? [11:01] do you think the right click quick list menus should be the same colour as the launcher/dash? [11:02] no [11:02] blami: why not? [11:03] I have found a little bug in the intaller of beta2... [11:04] Just aesthetics, and I don't know if i am still in time to submit such low level bugs... [11:04] Sorry, new to the community, my advanced apologies to everybody! [11:04] mauror: it's fine - what's the bug? [11:05] Will123456: as launcher and dash colors are derived from wallpaper there wouldnt be contrast between quick list menus and wallpaper or dash [11:05] blami: that's a fair point! i suppose colouring it the same as the icon that spawned it might look too garish too [11:05] During the install, some screenshots are displayed, the one saying the sound manager is rythmbox, still shows a videocapture of banshee... [11:06] <[4-tea-2]> Hi, is the grub message "error: no such partition" after upgrading to 12.04 a common problem and is there a workaround? [11:06] Hmmm, I’m connected via wifi, but the icon on top meny does not show any "bananas" nor does it show the wifi profile in use. [11:07] mauror: it's worth reporting. even if they decide against changing it, though given that it's a minor detail it shouldn't be too bad [11:07] wifi bananas, I like that [11:08] barf, do you mean it shows no signal strength, or is the indicator and drop-down menu completely missing? [11:09] It shows no signal strength, and it does not show the available hot spots [11:09] Will123456: it is not clear against what I should file a report, 12.04, precise...??? [11:09] drop down menu is there, but far too much stuff is greyed out, compared to yesterday’s 10.04 system [11:09] (My fault) [11:10] <[4-tea-2]> "error: no such partition", anyone? [11:10] [4-tea-2]: mounted elsewhere? [11:10] Sorry, have to go to work... [11:10] <[4-tea-2]> barf: it's a grub message [11:10] barf, can you get a screenshot please? also what wifi card are you using? [11:11] bitplane-: the macchine is called: Acer Aspire 7715 [11:11] bitplane-: How do I make a screenshot? [11:11] Press the printscreen key! [11:12] [4-tea-2]: I've not seen anyone complain about that in here. I guess raise a bug and attach your grub config [11:12] and of course hack it so it works [11:12] <[4-tea-2]> I updated from 11.10 to 12.04 on a dual-boot system, now trying to boot any of the grub entries (incl. Windows) results in a number of "error: no such partition" messages. I can't find an obvious mistake in the grub stanzas. [11:12] oh :/ [11:13] okay guys - inc. blami: i did this in 10 seconds, so give me your opinions: http://www.locker101.co.uk/colourisedquicklist.png [11:13] <[4-tea-2]> Downloading an iso image now, so I can use 12.04 as a rescue disc (before I return to 11.10). [11:13] i've just realised it wouldn't work at all for white icons [11:14] bitplane-: I pressed prt scr, now what? [11:14] Is it on my clipboard? [11:15] barf, a save dialog should pop up [11:15] "Save Screenshot" window [11:15] Nah [11:15] oh... actually it might not work while there's a menu open. damn! [11:15] Nothing like that shows up [11:15] yeah it doesn't work while the menu is open, need to use a screenshot program with a delay *sigh* [11:16] On the apple computers I would press cmd+CTRL+SHIFT+4 then space, then click on the window/pane [11:16] press meta, then type "screenshot" [11:16] screencapture? [11:16] that app can take a screenshot in 3 seconds time [11:16] or is that dead? [11:17] not sure what it's called. maybe I installed it from software center and it's not part of a default install [11:23] bitplane-: http://bildr.no/image/1155263.jpeg [11:24] very strange [11:25] It says the unit is not treated under the wireless part [11:25] I expected there to be at least 4 hotspots listed [11:27] yeah it looks like it's not scanning? I think gnome's network manager is separate from the network system [11:31] I bet if you typed "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | more" into a console you'd get a list of access points [11:31] but that probably won't help [11:31] let's find the correct component to report the bug against [11:32] Or uninstall that component and reinstall it? [11:33] you could try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager [11:33] did you try just disabling and re-enabling wireless? [11:33] sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID | wc -l tells me 4 [11:34] yeah so your wifi system is all okay, so I guess it must be gnome's network manager === GirlyGirl_ is now known as GirlyGirl [11:48] Still no good [12:03] after some upgrades unable to start system settings [12:04] what errors do you get if you run gnome-control-center in a terminal? [12:06] hold on [12:07] bitplane- http://paste.ubuntu.com/926303/ [12:10] and now each time new linux kernel update I see such things like grub generation filed, and update process stops on P: Updating /boot/extlinux/linux.cfg... [12:14] bitplane-: was that one for me? [12:20] <[4-tea-2]> Okay, my grub problem seems to be related to me and Ubuntu having different opinions on what the boot drive should be. No idea how to fix it without manually doing "grub-install", but it shouldn't affect people with a reasonable number of drives that haven't been juggled around. [12:23] <[4-tea-2]> Ah, the fix is obviously "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc". [12:28] <[4-tea-2]> Yay, still no support for my NIC included, but now the proprietary driver won't compile any longer. Well, it seems the Psychotic Pantaloon will run with ye olde 3.0 kernel. [12:33] hi [12:38] <[4-tea-2]> Okay, a new version of the proprietary driver was released yesterday. I hereby grant the [4-tea-2] Seal of Approval to Pancreatic Postcapitalist. [12:39] [4-tea-2]: ? ;D [12:40] <[4-tea-2]> Oh, sorry, I meant to Predominant Predator. [12:40] <[4-tea-2]> Or whatever 12.04 is called. [12:41] aptd error, reported [12:45] [4-tea-2]: Precise Pangolin :D [12:47] <[4-tea-2]> glosoli: yeah, I know, it says so in the topic. It's just that I had a clown for breakfast. ;) [12:48] :DD [12:54] [4-tea-2] recently I had same problem with grub-pc [13:05] <[4-tea-2]> MechanisM: I used to love grub like you, but then I took an arrow to /dev/sda. [13:26] Ubuntu 12.04 Setup failed on Dell Latitude D531. Stopped on partition manager [13:26] No changes are made [13:26] alexstrand7: any error message? [13:27] exiting because of inactivity [13:27] it said that in the terminal [13:28] first i got an internal error, so failed the setup. Wifi driver doesn't install. Now I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS [13:29] Everything works here [13:29] but I want to update to 12.04 when it comes, so please fix the bugs [13:30] Can I get unity on 10.04? [13:31] alexstrand7: i think you need to file a bugreport, just posting stuff here wont really be enough [13:31] how? [13:32] also check the console output it should contain an exact error message [13:32] how do I file a bug? [13:32] launchpad is the official bug reporting site [13:32] link? [13:32] https://launchpad.net [13:33] ok, can I use my Ubuntu one account to login? [13:33] i dont know , try it [13:33] ok [13:36] ok, I'm online, what should I do now? === RobinJ1995 is now known as RobinJ [13:37] I'm on the Precise front page on Launchpad, how do I file a bug? [13:41] alexstrand7: The first thing you should do is search to see if there is already a bug filed on your problem. [13:41] ok, I'm new to this, how do I do it? [13:42] i have heard of some other people had the same error, but I don't know if they have filed it [13:42] alexstrand7: There should be a search box on the front page. [13:42] ok [13:43] the search doesn't find any errors for my computer [13:44] so it can't have been filed [13:46] why are the default wallpapers disappearing in 12.04? [13:46] the one with the trains on it [13:46] not in the options to set as desktop background anymore [13:49] mouth1: Probably the same reason Windows Vista and 7 ship with different sample wallpapers [13:49] mouth1: A new package was released in the past couple of days. Maybe that one is no longer included. [13:49] oh [13:49] so it's because i did updates to the beta of 12.04? [13:49] 12.04 beta* [13:50] Yes, probably. [13:50] My system no longer has it, either. [13:57] thank you ratcheer [13:59] mouth1: You're welcome. [14:07] mouth1, the old wallpapers are available in the ubuntu-wallpapers-oneiric package. [14:08] and from 12.10 on, the old wallpapers will not be deleted when updating. The issue is adressed (just not for this version). [14:14] ok [14:14] thank you [14:17]