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slangasekbdmurray: curious - maybe it's fixed by the freetype upload which changes various bits surrounding font metrics00:13
roaksoaxjdstrand: still around?00:27
jdstrandroaksoax: yes00:28
ScottKmicahg: Did you ever get a chance to look into blueman?00:29
roaksoaxjdstrand: quick question about creating a user for MAAS.00:31
roaksoaxjdstrand: so the daemons already run as 'maas' user, WSGI for MAAS code also runs as 'maas' user. Do we need to create a home dir for the user? or can we not have a home dir?00:31
micahgScottK: not yet00:33
jdstrandroaksoax: if it doesn't need a home dir, then no. You can specify /nonexistent as the home dir, but be sure to use --no-create-home00:34
ScottKOK00:34
roaksoaxjdstrand: awesome, thanks00:35
jdstrandnp00:35
micahgScottK: blueman needs a merge, but the dh_python2 conversion was wrong, I'll file a Debian bug01:04
micahgthey also transitioned to python-gi01:04
ScottKThanks.01:19
jsjgruber-x-pI'm trying to build an app for my ppa that won't build on launchpad, but does with pbuilder-dist lucid . It has a  build-depends as follows:02:06
jsjgruber-x-pBuild-Depends:02:06
jsjgruber-x-p debhelper (>= 6),02:06
jsjgruber-x-p python,02:06
jsjgruber-x-p python (>= 2.6.6-3~) | python-support02:06
jsjgruber-x-pit doesn't build because it can't get the  python without trying to get the python-support instead. Is what I want reasonable?02:06
micahgjsjgruber-x-p: #ubuntu-packaging is better for random PPA build failures02:08
jsjgruber-x-pok, thanks02:09
infinity@pilot out02:33
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msvbMorning folks.03:19
pittiGood morning04:53
ajmitchmorning pitti04:54
RAOFMorning pitti04:54
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astraljavaHi gang, I'm trying to sort out our (Studio) bzr branches in better shape, and Micah kindly pointed out some errors with fields in debian/control. What's the proper URI for Vcs-Bzr field? Should it be 'lp:ubuntustudio-default-settings', 'lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio' or the long form05:54
astraljava'https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/UbuntuStudio'?05:54
infinityastraljava: Most seem to use the http:// URI.05:59
astraljavainfinity: Ok, I'll fix ours to comply with that, then. Thank you!06:03
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smoseranyone seen this ?07:17
smoserwalking through installer from yesterday's iso07:17
smoserit just hang as soon as i enter the user info and hit continue07:17
smoser(i did have encrypted home)07:18
smoserer.. did select.07:18
smoserwalking through installer from yesterday's iso07:18
dholbachgood morning07:19
dholbachRAOF, happy birthday! :)07:21
msvbHappy birthday RAOF.07:27
micahgwhat's supposed to replace pcretest in the new multiarch pcre3 packages (this was dropped 2 releases ago)?07:28
RAOFdholbach, msvb: Thanks.07:28
slangasekmicahg: why do you need a replacement?07:31
micahgslangasek: I've got package testing for UTF-8 support in PCRE07:31
slangasekah07:31
slangasekcan you just bundle the source as part of your test?07:32
slangasekor put it in the pcre package's own build-time test suite?07:32
micahgof the pcretest script?  probably07:32
slangasek(cf. the original bug report requesting pcretest, bugs.debian.org/162998)07:32
* micahg wonders why this works in Debian07:36
infinitymicahg: Sure.07:59
infinitySo.07:59
infinityWhy did GLIB drop that feature, or is the test for it just broken?08:00
infinityCause either that's a glib regression, or goffice is doing something stupid.08:00
infinity(Or is it a bug and not a feature that it's looking for?  But then it wouldn't make sense to include pcre if glib isn't buggy?)08:01
infinityConfusing.08:01
micahghmm, according to the docs it should be there08:01
micahgah, it's the include most likely has changed08:02
infinitymicahg: Could it... Yeah.08:02
infinitymicahg: I was just about to suggest single include madness.08:02
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dokopitti, ping08:02
pittihello doko08:03
infinitymicahg: I bet <glib/gregex.h> throws errors.08:03
dokopitti, the jockey-gtk crash did hit me yesterday08:03
pittiwhat is "the" jockey crash?08:06
pittidoko: is there a bug # for this with details?08:06
dokopitti, bug 80466208:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 804662 in jockey (Ubuntu) "jockey-gtk crashed with TypeError in _execute_child(): execv() arg 2 must contain only strings" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80466208:08
jamespage@pilot in08:09
pittidoko: can you please file it again? it seems to be a slightly different crash08:09
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micahginfinity: /me bangs head on desk (I forgot to try a rebuild :), was the single include nonsense)08:12
jamespagehmm - guess the bot knew that I'm actually piloting tomorrow08:19
* jamespage goes for more coffee08:19
Riddell< Riddell> shell scriptage help needed: http://paste.kde.org/456044/08:23
Riddellthat breaks on first line if more than one .pot file exists08:23
Riddellhow do I get it to test for .pot file existing without breaking on more than one?08:23
brycehRiddell, wouldn't   for file in po/*pot; sed "s/charset...   work?08:24
slangasekonly if you set shopt nullglob08:25
slangasekif no files match po/*pot, you try to sed a file literally named "po/*pot"08:25
slangasekRiddell: for file in po/*pot; do if [ "$file" != 'po/*pot' ]; then sed [...]; fi; done08:26
jussiso patch pilot bot is missing because the  srever went down yesterday for some unkown reason. I need tsimpson to resstart that one (and tell me how to do it), so whoever the patch pilot today is, please adjust the topic manually.08:26
Riddellbryceh: not if the directory is empty08:26
jussijamespage: could you direct my earlier comment to whomever is the patchpilot today?08:27
brycehls -l po/*pot 2> /dev/null && for file in po/*pot; do echo $file ; done08:27
Riddellif [ "$(ls -A po/)" ]; then  this seems to do it nicely08:29
Riddellevery time I use bash I end up wanting to rewrite in python :)08:30
slangasekah, but that's not bash08:30
slangasekif you were using bash, you *could* do shopt nullglob, and then you wouldn't have to check ;)08:30
smoserhey, i'm trying to run the installer (several times now) on a new laptop08:38
infinityif [ "$1" = deconfigure ]; then08:38
infinity    :; # blah, do something useful with ldso08:38
infinityfi08:38
smoserwhen i come to the point of adding a new user.08:38
infinityThis is why I shouldn't read other people's maintainer scripts...08:38
smoseras soon as i click continue, ubiquity goes to 100% cpu08:38
smoseri'm choosing a separate /home partition and to format it.08:38
smoseris this  known?08:38
RAOFsmoser: Are you perhaps running into bug #966294?08:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966294 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity loops forever from ubiquity_webcam_play" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96629408:42
smoserRAOF, that could be08:43
smoserRAOF, thank you!08:50
smoseri removed the ucvideo.ko module08:50
smoser(and then rm'd it for good measure)08:50
smoserand i'm moving on08:50
pittiRiddell:09:18
pitti+if [ "$(ls -A po/)" ]; then09:18
pittiRiddell: I think it would be more robust to use [ -n "$(ls ..)" ]09:19
pittiRiddell: also, there seems to be a missing "fi" in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/101498692/pkg-kde-tools_0.14.2ubuntu4_0.14.2ubuntu5.diff.gz ?09:19
Riddellpitti: fix uploaded09:23
Adri2000where can I find old isos? (specifically I'm looking for precise beta 1 isos)09:36
Adri2000(tried old-releases.u.c but it doesn't have precise isos)09:53
cjwatsonAdri2000: we archive them to tape I think, but they aren't available anywhere public (or even easily Canonical-accessible)09:56
jibelpitti, how much memory is required to setup the virtual device in udisks test ? The test fails with 'cannot allocate memory' when modprobing scsi_debug. The highest dev_size_mb I could set with 2GB of virtual memory was 11209:56
pittijibel: that's a good question, I'm not really sure about it09:57
pittijibel: I would expect that 2.5 GB should be enough then, as it requests 300 MB09:57
Adri2000cjwatson: argh :/ ok... (wanted to debug an X regression post beta 1, would have been useful in order to track down the culprit packages)10:03
jibelpitti, ok, I'll start with 2.5 and increase until it passes.10:04
pittijibel: merci10:05
pittijibel: I'm preparing a new udisks uplaod with the missing dependencies10:05
jibelpitti, ok, thanks. postgresql test failed but it looks like a bug in autopkgtest which expand '+' to '%2B' in the package name10:08
pittiyeah, I wondered about that, it didn't even get to the tests there10:11
cjwatsonyay, precise-adt-ubiquity passed10:14
stgrabercool!10:15
sam-chello devs10:18
pittijibel: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/job/precise-adt-upower/lastSuccessfulBuild/ looks weird -- did that succeed actually, or was this a test environ failure?10:19
sam-cwhen does beta 12.10 start?10:19
cjwatsonsam-c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QReleaseSchedule10:20
GirlyGirlsam-c: Its release schedule isn't finalised yet10:21
cjwatsonthe details haven't; you can reasonably expect it not to be too far off the above wiki page though, maybe with a week or two's shift here and there10:22
jibelpitti, it succeeded but publication to the public jenkins is slow10:23
pittijibel: ah, I see; great to see it works now!10:23
jibelso it syncs results from the parent job first then children jobs many minutes later10:24
sam-cthanks lets hope 12.04 is a success!10:24
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pittijibel: nice, it's there now11:08
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dokoinfinity, will you address bug 929219 before the release?11:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "chromium-browser, gvfsd-http and others using eglibc crash with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping() or gethostbyname2_r()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92921911:27
infinitydoko: Yeah, testing an upload now.11:28
infinitydoko: Just getting a few more fixes in at the same time.11:28
dokothanks11:29
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evAm I going blind or is there no mapping (via python-apt) from a package in the cache to the path in /var/apt/cache/archives?11:46
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mvoev: there is no obvious one, iirc you need to create a acquire object, load the package into it and then you can get it via the destfilename :/11:50
evow11:50
mvogive me a sec (or some more and I can try to create a short example)11:50
evmvo: cheers11:50
ev(background: I'm trying to see if any Conflicts or Replaces are already in /var/cache/apt/archives)11:51
mvoI'm not sure I understand, why is this relevant? I guess its something with ubiquity :) ?11:52
evit looks like apt.apt_pkg.parse_depends(candidate.record['Conflicts']) will get me half way there, then presumably apt.apt_pkg.check_dep() with the destfilename version parsed out?11:52
evmvo: apport-retrace speedup...11:52
evmvo: https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/apport/reunpack_to_sandbox/+merge/101643 - we unpack the debs we need for retracing to a sandbox using dpkg -x. With my speedup change we cache this sandbox between runs.11:53
evBut now we need to be careful to handle replaces/depends and virtual packages therein11:53
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evoh and handling that is easy enough for the simple case. But when the Replaces and Conflicts packages have versions, then I need to parse that out (using parse_depends I guess, as above) and compare that against something in /var/cache/apt/archives - and this is where I'm stuck :)11:57
mvoev: I see, interessting! here is a small example http://paste.ubuntu.com/926289/11:57
mvoev: fetcher.items should always only have 1 entry with this code (auto_fix and auto_inst false) so the loop is not really needed11:58
glennlo12:01
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evmvo: is there anything in python-apt that would then rip the version out of that path? So if I was trying to get the versions of all the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives12:01
evI dug around and didn't see anything12:02
Guest64148how can i make sure that my package build from, would also use my dependency package from source?12:02
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glenn__how can i make sure that my package build from source, would also use my dependency package from source?12:03
glenn__its a deb file on my hd12:03
glenn__is that easy? :)12:03
glenn__only thing im finding is the control file12:05
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pittiapw: do we still need the bcm43xx stuff, given that we automatically install wl these day?12:26
pittis12:26
jamespagedoes the data in the command-not-found-data package normally get updated just before release?12:27
apwpitti, not sure they 100% overlap to be honest12:27
pittijamespage: yes, usually before every milestone12:27
jamespagepitti, thought that was the case.12:28
pittiapw: ah, that was it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/1.7712:32
pittiapw: /lib/firmware/phanfw.bin is the biggest file in it (1.8 MB), so that caused quite some growth12:33
pittianyway, I suppose we can't just drop that, but at some point we need a way to split that into smaller packages12:34
pittiin 12.10 we'll get bigger images, but we need to squeeze something for 12.0412:34
apwpitti, well the problem is they are mostly firmware for things we care about, video, network, camera, that sort of thing12:35
pittiyes, I know12:35
apwpitti, it is possible that we have some old firmware in here, stuff that can never be loaded12:35
pittiright, that's what I thought, hence my question12:35
apwpitti, will discuss some potentials for ripping out for now with tim12:35
pittiin a 27 MB compressed hog there must be _something_ we can get rid of12:35
pittiapw: thanks!12:37
pittiI'll have a look at wallpapers12:37
pittisladen: so, wallpapers grew a bit, and by yet unknown means we need to free 1.2 MB12:38
pittisladen: do you want me to shrink down some wallpapers, or do you want to have a look?12:39
seb128pitti, it's Cimi who handled that update no?12:40
pittinot sure, sladen talked to me about it last12:41
seb128ok12:41
pittisladen: e. g. the original Shoes.jpg (1.0 MB) looks exactly the same to my eye as my reduced Shoes2.jpg with 570 kB12:42
ogra_micahg, do you care for the lubuntu seeds ? seems audacious is blocking it on armhf and given that nobody seems to be able to fix the gles issue that blocks it i was wondering if you could do an arch specific seed hack to omit the audacious requirement on arm arches for now12:42
seb128Cimi, hey12:43
seb128<pitti> sladen: e. g. the original Shoes.jpg (1.0 MB) looks exactly the same to my eye as my reduced Shoes2.jpg with 570 kB12:43
seb128pitti, ^ meet Cimi, artwork master ;-)12:43
pittiCimi: hello12:43
Cimiwe both know each other seb128 :)12:43
pittiCimi: so is it you or sladen that I should ask about ubuntu-wallpapers?12:43
seb128:-p12:43
Cimipitti, I did the package/compression, sladen uploaded it12:43
Cimipinky, which is the big file to you?12:44
pittiCimi: there is no particular file, I'm just looking at ls -lSr12:45
pittiand starting with the biggest one12:45
pittiCimi: trying to reclaim the growth of the latest version12:45
Cimihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/926344/12:45
pitti(assuming that I am pinky)12:45
Cimipitti, they all seem pretty well compressed12:45
pittiSand.jpg compresses less well12:46
pittiCimi: but compressing Shoes.jpg (see above) and perhaps some others would help a lot12:46
Cimipitti, which walls are yoi looking at???12:46
seb128pitti, do you look at a different set?12:46
pittiapt-get source ubuntu-wallpapers..12:46
seb128pitti, there is no shoes or sand in the wallpapers12:46
Cimihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/926344/12:47
pittiah, we don't ship Shoes in u-w-precise, I see12:47
seb128pitti, ubuntu-wallpapers has all the old wallpapers as well but those are not installed by default12:47
pittiit's just in the source12:47
seb128pitti, they are in i.e -oneiric12:47
Cimiu-w is 2.812:48
Cimiless than oneiric12:48
CimiI think I did a great job here12:49
pittiCimi: right, I missed that the source has -oneiric etc.12:50
pittiso, any other ideas what we can throw out again?12:50
Cimipitti, we have 2.8 now12:50
Cimipitti, really, how much do you want to shrink here?12:50
pittino, I mean in general, not (just) wallpapers12:50
pittii386 grew by 2 MB since beta-2, and we need to shrink it by 1.2 MB12:51
* pitti looks at telepathy-salut, that grew by 0.2 MB12:52
pittilibreoffice-common grew by 0.6 MB12:52
pittiSweetshark: ^ any idea for a diet?12:52
Cimipitti, ubuntu-wallpapers deb was 2.4MB in oneiric and is 2.4MB in precise12:54
Cimipitti, I did my best to keep the same size12:54
pittiCimi: again, I'm not blaming you for anything12:54
pittiCimi: you did a great job there12:55
Cimipitti, ok12:55
pittiI just asked the channel for ideas what we can shrink again :)12:55
Cimipitti, only solution I have is to remove wallpapers12:55
Cimipitti, which works but it's not ideal with the community12:55
seb128it's not ideal for Ubuntu users either12:55
seb128users like the selection ;-)12:56
pittiat this point few things that we can do are "ideal"12:56
Cimiseb128, which wallpaper do you like most?12:56
Cimipitti, we're not shipping the gnome wallpapers, right?12:58
* apw wonders if ubuntu users like to have firmware for their hardware more or less than pretty backgrounds12:58
apwpitti, ok we may be able to strip some bnx2 firmware pretty easily but we have near zero way of knowing if thats going to cause problems12:58
Cimiapw, I would never sacrifice HW compatibility for stupid walls12:59
Sweetsharkpitti: hmmm, 3.5.1-1ubuntu5 already seemed to be bigger12:59
pittilibreoffice-common (Δ 0.6 MB - 3.5.1-1ubuntu1: 20.9 MB   3.5.2-2ubuntu1: 21.5 MB)12:59
Cimimaybe libreoffice ships stuff we can compress13:00
Cimipitti, all JPG/PNG can be compressed13:00
Cimieven loseless13:00
Sweetsharkpitti: ha!13:00
Sweetsharkpitti: it was readding the ugly presentationm templates again!13:01
pittiSweetshark: win!13:01
Sweetshark(between 3.5.1-1ubuntu4 and 3.5.1-1ubuntu5)13:01
pittiSweetshark: ah, so that's not the .6 MB from above?13:01
pittioh wait, it could very well be13:01
sladencimi: pitti: wallpapers is ~2.7 MB.  we were 2.5 MB last time, but we snarfed the extra after Kaleo uploaded a u-f-f without shipping Medium13:01
Sweetsharkyes, it is13:01
Cimisladen, looks like 2.4 from the website13:02
Sweetsharkpitti: 3.5.2 didnt change from 3.5.1-1ubuntu5 in size.13:02
Cimisladen, unless default wallpaper stais in a separate package from community13:02
pittiSweetshark: that's /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/template/common/layout ?13:02
sladenCimi: yes, default wallpaper is now in u-w, and community wallpapers in u-w-p13:03
Cimisladen, ah ok, found mistake13:03
sladenpitti: any new packages, or just bulging at the waist in the existing packaging?13:04
pittisladen: just the latter13:05
pittiwe added gtk2-engines-pixbuf since beta-2 (0.1 MB)13:05
Cimipitti, I can probably remove the dep from light-themes13:05
seb128no you can't13:05
seb128it was added for a reason, it spammed xsession-errors with warning without it13:06
seb128we still have gtk2 apps13:06
Sweetsharkpitti: no, /usr/lob/libreoffice/share/template/en-US/presnt/*.otp13:06
Cimiseb128, is used by light-themes gtk213:06
Cimiseb128, for old gnome-panel, old gedit, old ubuntuone gtk13:06
Cimiseb128, if I remove those, it should stop spamming13:07
seb128Cimi, nothing for firefox, tb?13:07
Cimiseb128, no13:07
Cimiseb128, let me try13:07
ogra_hmm, did dpkg --set-selections stop working in precise ?13:08
* pitti runs through http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.precise/desktop.depends again with a fine comb13:08
* ogra_ cat get it to install anything13:08
ogra_*cant13:08
ogra_oh, silly me ... nevermind13:11
pittiseb128: I suppose we need rarian-compat still?13:12
Cimiseb128, pitti  lp:~cimi/light-themes/remove-pixbuf-dep-shrink-size13:12
pittiI thought we need taht?13:13
Cimiseb128, you could try removing pixbuf and running apps13:13
pittiseb128: it pulls in docbook-xml13:14
seb128pitti, is that a runtime thing? I though it was for builds13:14
pittiseb128: yes, that's what I was wondering13:14
pittiseb128: rarian-compat is explicitly seeded13:14
seb128pitti, that seems wrong13:14
pittiseb128: the only place where this would possibly be relevant is yelp, right?13:17
seb128pitti, yes13:17
seb128pitti, will old style documentation13:17
seb128pitti, maybe check with jbicha?13:17
seb128or maybe mterry knows about it13:17
pittirarian-compat plus docbook-xml are 430 kB13:18
seb128I know he has been packaging the new yelp-xsl, etc13:18
Cimiseb128, pitti are all documentation packages assets compressed with optipng/optijpeg?13:18
pittiCimi: yes, pkgbinarymangler does that13:18
Cimiok13:18
pittiCimi: for all packages, not just documentation13:18
pittiCimi: we also optimize SVGs13:18
* mterry reads13:18
pittiall that bought us some 8 MB in past cycles13:18
Cimipitti, watch out from PNG13:18
seb128mterry, do you know if rarian-compat is a build-time only thing or use by yelp at runtime?13:19
Cimipitti, I tried optipng with something different than -o013:19
seb128mterry, i.e if we need it on the CD13:19
Cimipitti, and was clearly degrading the image13:19
mterryseb128, AFAIK just build time.13:19
seb128ok, what I though as well13:19
seb128pitti, let's try dropping it :p13:19
seb128I didn't have scrollkeeper or rarian-compat installed for some months and no issue13:19
seb128but I don't use documentation a lot13:20
pittiit's a hard dep of ubunt-desktop13:20
Cimiseb128, did you have a look at my branch?13:20
* pitti tries to purge it13:20
pitti... and yelp works just fine13:21
pittiseb128, mterry ^13:21
seb128pitti, try old style documentations, those which still have an omf13:21
Cimicool13:21
pittiok, I'll unseed it13:21
seb128pitti, the new world order doesn't use rarian-compat for sure13:21
seb128i.e yelp-xsl yelp-tools are used nowadays13:21
pittie. g. gnome-search-tool13:22
Cimiseb128, lp:~cimi/light-themes/remove-pixbuf-dep-shrink-size13:22
seb128Cimi, that looks fine to me13:22
seb128kenvandine, hey, what do you think about lp:~cimi/light-themes/remove-pixbuf-dep-shrink-size ?13:23
pittiseb128: works just fine13:23
seb128kenvandine, we are looking for CD space13:23
* kenvandine looks13:23
Cimiseb128, kenvandine only think will break is ubuntuone control panel gtk13:23
seb128pitti, ok, I though it was a build time thing so that seems to confirm it, great, kill it!13:23
Cimiseb128, buttons will be unthemed13:23
Cimiseb128, but "who cares in 12.04"13:23
pittiseb128: *happy*13:23
Cimiwe have the qt one13:23
seb128Cimi, we deprecated the gtk panel13:23
Cimiseb128, indeed13:23
seb128pitti, ;-)13:23
kenvandinehow much space does it save?13:24
pittikenvandine: 0.1 MB, not much13:24
CimiMP https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/light-themes/remove-pixbuf-dep-shrink-size/+merge/10173513:25
seb128<pitti> we added gtk2-engines-pixbuf since beta-2 (0.1 MB)13:25
pittibut it's half of what's left to do, assuming that LibO gets fixed13:25
Cimipitti, my branch also removes some small assets so it should be slightly more13:25
pittiah, nice13:25
kenvandinelooks fine to me13:25
kenvandinewe need to get rid of that stuff sooner or later anyway13:26
Cimilet's do it now13:26
kenvandineCimi, i approved it13:26
kenvandineyou merge to trunk and i'll upload13:26
Cimikenvandine, I'll merge13:26
hertonpitti, hi, now that Maverick is EOL, I think these packages from this tracking bugs will not go anymore to -updates, bugs 967065 and 967066, correct? I'll mark this bugs as invalid if so13:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 967065 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-ti-omap4: 2.6.35-903.33 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96706513:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 967066 in Kernel SRU Workflow verification-testing "linux-mvl-dove: 2.6.32-425.44 -proposed tracker" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96706613:27
Cimikenvandine, when you package, remember to remove pixbuf dep13:30
hallynhey guys - I'm curious, does whoopsie[1784]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000004050a2 sp 00007fff367e5488 error 4 in whoopsie[400000+9000]13:30
hallynmean anything to anyone?13:30
kenvandineCimi, done13:30
kenvandineCimi, is there a bug report related to this?13:30
Cimikenvandine, no13:30
Cimiseb128, ^13:30
Cimiyou love bug reports13:30
seb128Cimi, kenvandine: that's fine, just upload ;-)13:31
kenvandinejust checking13:31
pittiherton: ah, thanks13:32
stgraberev: ^ (whoopsie segfault)13:35
pittihah, I found another 330 kB13:37
pitti$ cat /usr/share/hwdata/pci.ids /usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids  | gzip -9 | wc -c13:37
pitti33411213:37
pittiwe can symlink them to the versions from usb-utils/pci-utils13:38
kenvandineseb128, pitti, Cimi: light-themes uploaded13:43
seb128kenvandine, thanks13:43
kenvandinepitti, the .deb is 8K smaller13:43
pittikenvandine: plus teh dropped dep?13:43
pittikenvandine: thanks13:44
kenvandineyeah13:44
pittikenvandine: so why was the dep added in teh first place?13:44
kenvandinesomeone added it because it caused messages to get spammed to the console13:44
seb128kenvandine, pitti: some of the old gtk2 theming file were using the pixbuf13:44
seb128that was leading the .xsession-errors spamming13:45
kenvandineit was bug 76216713:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 762167 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "missing dependency on gtk2-engines-pixbuf" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76216713:45
evhallyn: you should have a /var/crash/*whoopsie*.crash file13:47
evhallyn: please run ubuntu-bug /var/crash/*whoopsie*.crash and file a new bug13:48
hallynev: no, it wasn't me13:48
hallynev: it was in a qemu-kvm bug which had no qemu-kvm msgs in syslog, only whoopsie ones13:48
hallyni've marked it as affecting whoopsie, hold on lemme find the bug # in lp13:48
hallynev: bug 95996413:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 959964 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "qemu-system-x86_64 crashed with SIGABRT" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95996413:49
hallynI'm just wondering ifthat points to anything wrong on the host that would explain both qemu-kvm and whoopsie userspace errors13:50
evah, phew13:51
pittimterry: oh, we need to disable the whole gnome-keyring test suite, not just the test(s) which cause the hang?13:52
evlooks like they hit the memory corruption bug in whoopsie from march13:52
evit's not a new one13:52
pittimterry: can you reproduce the hang, actually? I had assumed it was due to the buildds running hardy kernels13:52
evbut it wont explain the qemu issue13:52
hallyndrat :)13:56
hallynI was hoping the qemu issue was some kernel resource problem causing pthread clone failure13:56
hallynthanks13:56
pittiSweetshark: can you make the change to drop them again?13:56
mterrypitti, no I can't reproduce14:00
mterrypitti, I disabled the whole suite.  I believe I saw different tests hanging (?)14:00
mterrypitti, but it's possible I could have been more targetted14:00
pittimterry: I'm a bit worried about testing SRUs and point releases, on different arches14:02
pittimterry: do you know if this ever affected armel/armhf?14:02
pittiif it is only affecting i386/amd64, there is even more reason to believe it's due to the hardy kernel14:02
mterrypitti, I only know of it happening on i386, but I don't have the full history of problems with the package14:03
mterrypitti, one thing that didn't bother me about it is that the tests were ignored on failure anyway14:03
mterrypitti, with || true.  So I didn't figure they were doing us much good to begin with14:03
pittimterry: ah, good point14:04
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barrydoko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.6/+bug/97992314:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 979923 in python2.6 (Ubuntu) "Python 2.6 and several virtual packages are still available in 12.04" [Undecided,New]14:26
seb128does anyone knows how to make automake not complain about14:30
seb128nobase_pkgdata_PYTHON14:30
seb128it does "Makefile.am:15: `pkgdatadir' is not a legitimate directory for `PYTHON'"14:30
seb128using "nobase_pkgpython_PYTHON" works but I don't want to move those files from /usr/share to /usr/lib just before the hard freeze14:31
seb128unping, desrt helped me using a temporary variable :p14:33
dokobarry, comment added14:34
barrydoko: thanks14:37
rbasakcyphermox: around? I have a fix for the libical arm ftbfs. I've attached a debdiff to bug 979846. Please can you take a look/sponsor?14:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 979846 in libical (Ubuntu) "libical FTBFS on arm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97984614:49
cyphermoxwow, you rock!14:49
cyphermoxsure, I'll do this now14:49
cyphermoxthanks a lot for looking into this14:49
dupondjedoko: around ?14:51
dokodupondje, ?14:56
* ogra_ wonders how you set font sizes etc for gtk-3.0 apps if you dont use gnome nowadays ... .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini doesnt seem to have any effect 14:57
dupondjedoko: your still checking opensc? I see you uploaded a fix for it yesterday. Cause I would like to merge the newest version from debian. Cause current version in ubuntu is broken for alot of smartcards14:58
davmor2ogra_: You use the force,  go on try concentrate really really hard ;)15:01
ogra_haha15:01
ogra_well, the only thinng i read everywhere is that .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini thing15:02
ogra_and that should essentially behave like a .gtkrc ... but it seems it doesnt15:02
dokodupondje, I wouldn't mind, but you'll need a FFe, and somebody to review and sponsor it15:02
seb128ogra_, stop not using GNOME15:02
ogra_seb128, lol15:02
seb128ogra_, what did you put in there?15:02
ogra_ogra@amun:~$ cat .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini15:03
ogra_[Settings]15:03
ogra_gtk-font-name = Ubuntu 815:03
ogra_but it uses Sans 11 everywhere15:03
ogra_well, in all gtk apps15:03
dupondjedoko: ok thx! I know, but it could be usefull to have a working version instead of the current :D15:04
* ogra_ really dislikes our font size chouces on netbooks btw ... way to big for the small screens15:04
ogra_*choices15:05
doko+115:06
dholbachmaybe you two need glasses :-P15:06
dholbachoh, too big - nevermind15:07
ogra_hehe15:07
* dholbach maybe needs glasses15:07
ogra_:)15:07
* ogra_ hugs dholbach 15:07
ogra_...and ...15:07
* dholbach hugs ogra_15:07
ogra_@pilot in15:07
dholbachyeeeehaw15:07
ogra_whats up with the bots recently ?15:07
seb128ogra_, with what application did you try?15:08
ogra_seb128, firefox and sylpheed15:08
seb128ogra_, they are not gtk315:08
ogra_and xchat ...15:09
seb128neither15:09
ogra_oh15:09
seb128it would help if you tried a gtk3 app :p15:09
ogra_hmm, well, i care more for the apps i use (like the three above) ... thats all gtk-2 still ?15:09
seb128yes15:10
seb128gtkrc still work, that didn't change15:10
seb128if you want to tweak gtk215:10
ogra_ah, great15:10
ogra_thanks seb12815:10
seb128ogra_, yw15:10
ogra_and sorry for the noise ... i should have checked the deps15:11
seb128no worry ;-)15:11
* doko brings some glasses for dholbach at uds15:12
dholbachdoko, shot glasses? :-P15:13
ogra_stay away from doko if he brings shot glasses ... !15:13
* ogra_ remembers some bad hangovers caused by that 15:13
* doko can't remember ...15:14
ogra_lol15:14
dholbachogra_, yeah, that's probably wise15:14
* ogra_ would still like to know whats up with the bot15:14
stgraberogra_: should be added to jono's intro slide, if you want to avoid hangovers, stay away from doko during UDS15:14
ogra_@pilot in15:14
apwcjwatson, ever heard of any limits to teh size of root and that affecting grub?  we are getting 'out of space' when reading grub.cfg on one of our boxes 'sometimes' after running update-grub15:14
ogra_stgraber, only if he has shot glasses with him, otherwise its safe15:15
apwcjwatson, yet when we boot by hand the kernels open fine, and the file is fine in /boot/grub/from the booted system15:15
dokostgraber, that's the kernel team, can't beat them with hangovers ...15:15
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stgraberdoko: true ;)15:16
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cjwatsonapw: no intrinsic limits, but sometimes there are bugs in grub's fs implementations15:19
apwcjwatson, actually the grub.cfg has part of itself at LBA >32bit ...15:19
apwcjwatson, see the #ubuntu-kernel for the fibmap15:20
cjwatsonthat would be one plausible reason; either there's an fs impl bug where it isn't 64-bit-clean, or the relevant BIOS calls are failing15:20
apwcjwatson, /me suspects the bios ... hmm15:20
cjwatsonit could well be either15:20
cjwatsonBIOS or UEFI?15:20
apwlegacy ...15:20
cjwatsonthe BIOS calls we use are allegedly 64-bit-clean15:21
cjwatsonbut I gather that it's not at all clear whether the BIOS implementors test this15:21
apwcjwatson, so the recommendation would be to have a /boot for this machine15:21
cjwatsonyes, that would be sensible15:22
apwcjwatson, do you know what a flag of bios_grub on a partition means?15:22
apw16:21:46      tgardner |  1      1049kB  2097kB  1049kB                        bios_grub                              │ awe_15:23
cjwatsonapw: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation, subsection on GPT15:24
cjwatsonbut that's for the GRUB image itself, don't confuse it with /boot15:24
cjwatsonogra_: it's OK as long as you don't let doko pour15:25
ogra_haha, true !15:25
cjwatsonI was distinctly bleary one morning15:25
* ogra_ remembers ... though you blamed me for it !15:26
cjwatsonmaybe it was your fault then, I forget :-)15:27
cjwatsonthat might be something to do with the GLASS FULL OF WHISKY15:27
* ogra_ giggles 15:27
bkerensacyphermox: you around?15:34
cyphermoxbkerensa: yes15:34
bkerensacyphermox: how did you want me to collect the pulseaudio logs for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/97206315:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 972063 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth Headset pairs but does not show up in Sound Settings profile" [Medium,Incomplete]15:35
cyphermoxah you have two choices15:35
cyphermoxbkerensa: you can use pacmd and the "set-log-level 3" command to enable logging, then unpair and repair your device15:36
cyphermoxor kill pulseaudio and start it again fast enough with the logging enabled ;)15:37
cyphermoxthe logs will be in /var/log/syslog15:37
bkerensacyphermox: excellent I have attached those logs to the bug... let me know if you need any more info15:44
bkerensahope to have bluetooth working :)15:44
vibhavcyphermox: ping15:53
cyphermoxvibhav: pong15:53
vibhavcyphermox: Most of the bugs we worked on mbpi are fixed, how do we bring them into Ubuntu?15:54
cyphermoxvibhav: already done. I uploaded a new revision two days ago15:54
vibhavah15:55
vibhavthanks'15:55
ogra_@pilot in16:10
stgraberogra_: ;)16:12
stgraberogra_: you know you can change the topic yourself, right?16:12
ogra_indeed i know that... wanted to know if the bug is back16:13
ogra_err16:13
ogra_s/bug/bot/16:13
ogra_piloting has really bad sideefects16:13
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ogra_micahg, did you see my lubuntu ping above ?16:15
micahgogra_: no, let me look16:15
ogra_micahg, well, i can quickly repeat... lubuntu-desktop is uninstallable on arm atm, i was wondering if someone from the lubuntu people (assuming you are among them) unseed audacious for armem/armhf to work around that16:16
micahgogra_: I don't personally care for them, but I believe core-dev has commit access, I'd suggest talking to the lubuntu team in #lubuntu to see what they'd like here16:16
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ogra_i doubt anyone will fix the GLES issues with audacious in time, just undeeding it for arm would at least make the task installable16:17
ogra_(and i think arm is a pretty good lubuntu target ;) )16:17
micahgogra_: sounds good, but they might want an alternate in its place, please discuss with them in #lubuntu16:19
ogra_in there already :)16:20
bdmurrayIs there an archive admin who can let my upload of update-manager for oneiric-propsoed through?16:21
vibhavbdmurray: Has it been sponsered?16:22
ogra_micahg, oh, and also, do you know why there is no metapackage for lubuntu-desktop ? i can only find a task16:22
micahgogra_: it doesn't exist on armhf, I guess no one updated the -meta properly16:23
micahgor germinate blew up during generation16:23
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pittiinfinity: OOI, why do we have so many armel PPA buildds?16:33
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dokoinfinity, http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/gcc-4.6.debdiff16:38
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jtaylordoko: will the argparse regression be fixed soon?17:06
dokojtaylor, not anymore today, away now17:19
jtaylorI'll reopen the bug so its not forgotten17:26
ogra_@pilot out17:30
ogra_or not :P17:30
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larsduesingA small question - where to put sort of wishlist/thoughts about getting a package better in Q* ?17:32
larsduesingin a "bug"?17:32
ScottKYes.17:44
yofelslangasek: where should I put the splash update?17:52
slangasekyofel: lp:ubuntu/plymouth, or a merge proposal thereon17:52
yofelcoming17:52
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slangasekanyone here understand what's going on with rosetta in bug #978724?  because having to rebuild .pot files at build time is definitely the wrong answer20:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 978724 in Ubuntu Translations "update-notifier needs to build translation template" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97872420:38
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seb128slangasek, not sure, I can check with dpm tomorrow, launchpad should the pot which is available at the end of the build20:52
slangasekseb128: right, that was my understanding20:52
slangasekseb128: is there a better view than https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=pot for finding the files?20:53
seb128slangasek, I see nothing weird on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/update-notifier/+pots/update-notifier/+admin20:54
seb128slangasek, different issue but update-notifier has buggy intltool usage20:54
seb128https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101084855/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.update-notifier_0.119ubuntu6_BUILDING.txt.gz20:54
seb128it has a bunch of20:55
seb128"/usr/bin/intltool-merge ../po/da.po ../po/de.po ../po/el.po ../po/es.po ../po/fi.po ../po/fr.po ../po/hu.po ../po/ja.po ../po/pl.po ../po/pt_BR.po ../po/ro.po ../po/sv.po ../po/zh_CN.po20:55
seb128Usage: intltool-merge [OPTION]... PO_DIRECTORY FILENAME OUTPUT_FILE"20:55
slangasekhmm20:55
seb128oh20:55
seb128slangasek, debuild clean remove the pot20:56
ahasenackhi, can somebody please nominate this bug for lucid, natty and oneiric? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape-client/+bug/97888420:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 978884 in landscape-client (Ubuntu) "SRU: release 12.04.3 for lucid, natty and oneiric" [Undecided,Fix released]20:56
slangasekseb128: hah20:56
slangasekseb128: ok, thanks, I'll fix20:56
seb128slangasek, yw20:56
slangasekseb128: where do you see that though?  I don't see it in the log20:59
seb128slangasek, I noticed that locally when trying to rebuild it, maybe it's not the issue on the buildds21:00
slangasekmmk21:00
seb128slangasek, oh21:01
seb128slangasek, pkgstriptranslations: update-notifier is blacklisted, not stripping21:01
seb128slangasek, I wonder if that's due to that21:01
seb128slangasek, I bet it is21:01
slangasekthey shouldn't be stripped21:02
slangasekand I didn't think rosetta relied on pkgstriptranslations for pots21:02
seb128yeah, me neither21:03
slangasekok, I'll try to dig there, thanks21:03
seb128slangasek, I would say, do an upload to a ppa with a ls po at the end of the build just to see if the pot is still there21:03
seb128slangasek, I will check with dpm tomorrow, but it's weird indeed21:03
seb128slangasek, meanwhile I can upload the current template if you want using the web ui21:04
slangasekseb128: oh!  that would be swell, thanks21:07
seb128slangasek, done21:12
slangasekta!21:12
roadmrhey! does anyone have a minute to have a look at this merge request? it's been reviewed by translators, the release team and is marked as sponsored. https://code.launchpad.net/~roadmr/ubuntu/precise/checkbox/0.13.7/+merge/101783 thanks!21:16
bkerensacyphermox: did you see anything odd in that log?21:28
micahgahasenack: I'm reluctant to give you the tasks without SRU approval as there's no Microrelease exception from what I can see21:28
micahgahasenack: you probably should apply for this for landscape: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions21:30
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bdmurraywhere does details in system settings come from?22:11
stgraberbdmurray: gnome-control-center I'd guess22:12
bdrungdoko: more multiarch fun: bug #98035122:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 980351 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "package openjdk-6-jre 6b24-1.11.1-4ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: './usr/share/applications/openjdk-6-policytool.desktop' is different from the same file on the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98035122:19
dokobdrung, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+queue?queue_state=122:19
bdrungthanks22:21
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maxbIs there anyone who can moderate my ubuntu-devel@ email, subject "Request for advice - subversion FTBFS in precise23:02
maxb? - it's a little bit time critical since it's discussing things to be done before release23:03
micahgmaxb: have you talked to Daviey yet about 1.6.18, does it fix the issue?23:03
maxbmicahg: No, it does not fix the FTBFS23:03
maxbSo, fixing the FTBFS becomes something we probably want to do anyway, whether or not we get 1.6.18 in23:04
micahgindeed23:04
maxbI'm uncertain whether an upstream fix for the FTBFS for 1.6.x will be forthcoming or not, or whether the advice will be to stick with APR << 1.4.6 if you care about the testsuite for 1.6.x23:06
maxbAnd even if there is an upstream fix, it will likely be in the form of a *massive* patch adding sorting of results all over the testsuite23:07
* micahg wonders why Debian wouldn't have the same issue23:08
maxbmicahg: I expect they will23:08
* maxb goes looking for a Debian rebuild test23:08
bkerensampt: What is your proposal for Bug #96297423:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 962974 in landscape-client (Ubuntu) ""Management Service" is gratuitously vague" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96297423:13
maxbCan't find a recent Debian full archive rebuild by googling, but I'm sure the same problem holds true23:14
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ahasenackmicahg: landscape-client has an exception: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Landscape23:28
micahgahasenack: ah, ok, I"ll give you the tasks then :)23:29
ahasenackmicahg: thanks23:29
micahgahasenack: done23:29
ahasenackmicahg: thanks a lot23:30
micahgahasenack: sorry, I would've done it yesterday had I remembered it had an exception23:30
ahasenackmicahg: np23:30
ahasenackI'm persistent :)23:31

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