[10:55] morning [10:56] whos at work? [10:57] any release parties in the cbus area? [10:57] or southeastern oh ? [12:03] wake up wake up. [12:03] who here is setting their work environment to 'gnome-failback' cause they don't want to deal with people bishing otherwise? [12:04] cause that is most likely what i'm going to do [12:04] maybe i'll have the option to give them the choice [12:07] omg, you guys need more coffee [13:20] * andygraybeal makes second pot of coffee [13:34] morning folks [13:34] andygraybeal: yeah, I'm behind on the coffee train :( [13:34] :) [13:35] oh great, now my web browser's broken [13:35] joy [13:35] oop, there it is [13:40] it's gonna be a hawt night tonight down in southeastern ohio at my restaurant we got two great things: 1. a salsa made with local strawberries and paper lantern chiles and 2. an open doors drag show! sashay! shante! exciting! [13:40] haha, awesome [13:40] the salsa is guaranteed to melt your face and the drag show will make you wet as well :) [13:40] :) [13:41] bro, i got that tilemill running and i couldn't get the files from the state to load cause they were too big! [13:41] but the ones from our county work fnie [13:41] *fine [13:42] hahaha [13:42] MA takes a few (10?) minutes or so to load [13:42] I was fighting with TileMill on Debian [13:42] super PITA [13:42] yea, i think i have to compile it myself if i want to get it to run the data from the state. [13:42] I don't think so :) [13:42] and set some filesize setting to 0 [13:43] it's all nodejs, you can edit in place :) [13:43] ah then, i couldn't figure out how to change the setting. [13:43] ah [13:46] yea, there looks to be a 20MB limit [13:46] and i have a 36MB file [13:46] and somethign about setting something to 0 would make this work. [13:46] anyway, this was lastn ight and i'm at work now so i shouldn't be workign on it [14:40] I love how the job title "systems administrator" basically just means, "what ever technical type tasks we want you to perform" [14:40] Some companies, you need to know about electrical and generators [14:41] some places you need to know about phone systems [14:41] and some places, they want you to be a software developer too [14:41] not, install and setup this software for us to use on a server... [14:41] but also, hey this software doesn't work...fix it [14:42] i'm switching to programming I think...might as well... [14:42] devops [15:02] BUZZWORD. [15:02] devops is actually pretty cool though. :) [15:02] i know...but i don't hate that buzzword yet [15:03] Oh, compared to "cloud", devops isn't a buzzword. [15:03] as it's only being used by practitioners mainly now [15:03] yes, i want to punch anyone who says cloud [15:03] or "apps" [15:03] AHG APPS [15:04] although i will say that I am known to call a little hack i put together a "app". generally speaking though, what that means is that I'm just too bored to give it a proper name. [15:06] hiya jrgifford [15:06] howdy paultag [15:07] for all those interested in ARM... [15:07] what's new? [15:07] you can get the older v2 "pink" pogo plugs for $25 [15:07] thafreak: I've reconsidered and decided salt might be the way to go with my thing [15:07] oh really? [15:07] can I get like 4 of them? [15:07] probably [15:08] I might order some more to hold me over till raspberry pi is more widely available [15:08] paultag: nothing much. how're you? [15:08] http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/763601-REG/Pogoplug_POGO_B01_B01_Multimedia_Sharing_Device.html [15:10] thafreak: can I run Debian on it? [15:11] jrgifford: Oh you know, living the dream [15:11] nice... i want one of those. jandrusk: Look above, there is a rasp pi alternative for you, you were looking for one a few weeks ago iirc. [15:11] paultag: :D [15:12] yep, it will run debian squeeze atleast [15:13] which is current stable anyway [15:13] thafreak: I live on the edge, jabroni [15:13] well, haven't tried wheezy [15:13] I mean, I could wait until the ras-pi is around more [15:13] then cluster those [15:14] but these are here now ;) [15:14] and have gig-e [15:14] true [15:14] no, you're right [15:14] alpacahearder has some [15:14] it's what runs this irssi session I'm using now :-O [15:14] (pogoplugs) [15:14] thafreak: oh really? [15:14] yep... [15:14] hummmm [15:15] it's what I have ssh poked through my firewall to [15:15] since it's less likely to die than my bigger hardware [15:15] iiiiiiinteresting [15:15] and i have usb-serial adapters plugged into it, and serial console to my VM hosts [15:15] thafreak: anyway - more relevent to right now - advice for salt? [15:16] i'm still tinkering with it [15:16] so far, the master of masters setup doesn't seem to work so hot [15:16] thafreak: if you feel like helping me on my quest, you'll get huge amounts of internet cred [15:16] like, huge [15:16] might be how I have the one setup though [15:16] and a lot of people will be really thankful [15:17] i'll help where I can [15:17] I'm still toying and learning it myself [15:17] but so far, it feels more natural than a puppet/puppet master setup [15:17] thafreak: if I set up a "build script" for the VM to run, can you saltize it? [15:18] what kind of script we talking? [15:18] it'll be complex [15:18] and long running [15:18] what lang [15:18] but it'll be simple to invoke [15:18] bash [15:18] I'm going to make it portable as hell [15:18] k [15:18] or I can do python + pbs, but that's less easy to port to all the dists I want [15:18] I figure shell is best [15:19] pbs? like the batch system? [15:19] python-pbs [15:19] haven't seen that yet [15:19] dude [15:19] it's amazing [15:19] name a command [15:19] any command [15:20] command? [15:20] like ls [15:20] nvmd, one sec [15:20] yeah, sure [15:20] lspci [15:20] lspci it is [15:20] so it is related to the pbs batch system... [15:21] one sec [15:22] python [15:22] >>> from pbs import lspci, grep [15:22] >>> grep(lspci(), "VGA") [15:22] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) [15:22] >>> [15:22] nice. :) [15:22] it's a badass wrapper that uses some nifty import hacks [15:22] it's a really nice way to shell out in Python [15:22] anyway, yeah. Shell, thafreak [15:23] will you have direct ssh access to your build hosts? [15:24] thafreak: no, they'll be VMs. To test, I'll fire up some VMs here behind a firewall or something [15:24] cause something like clusterssh which runs stuff in parallel might be a simpler setup [15:24] not only VMs, but in the end, they're reflash them [15:24] gotcha [15:24] because builds may taint the host [15:24] true [15:25] boot → update chroot → run buld → shutdown, host reflash VM [15:25] but for now, I'll just do the run-build [15:25] because that's the most complex part [15:26] well...using libvirt and pre-built templates, it might not be too bad [15:27] thafreak: idealy, I'd also send an "update" job before each build [15:27] clone a vm, boot it, abuse it, delete it when done [15:27] thafreak: which would boot the VM image R/W, update the chroot, update the image, shut down [15:27] also, it'd be sweet to have a web-front-end on this [15:28] if I can stream output from the slave to the host [15:28] could be done [15:28] and node.js realtime stream it [15:28] I have really lofty demands [15:28] (but starting simple is key) [15:28] there's a python api to controle the salt master...so you could build a rest interface to hit from node.js [15:29] cool [15:29] anyway, later [15:29] first thing is build process [15:29] later...i got to debug some code [15:29] cause that's what sys admins do [15:29] alright [15:29] aparently [15:29] :-/ [15:29] I'll write a build-script :) [15:29] k, keep me in the loop [15:30] yarp [15:36] thafreak: holy shit, I just did the math. It's going to be over 39 VMs. [15:37] and how much ram each? [15:38] meh, not much. I'm sure it can be about a gig or so [15:38] 512mb? [15:38] remember, I'll kick two or three up, build, shut down [15:38] and roll them [15:38] OH ok [15:38] over more then one physical host [15:38] not at the same time [15:38] yeah [15:38] no need to do that [15:38] but that's a cool number [15:38] and I have a neat way to show the build status [15:38] anyway, $WORK time [18:02] oh yeah, almost forgot. notacon is tomorrow.. will i see any of you folks there? [18:02] NOpe. I'm going to ILF. :) [18:03] Nope, I'm not going to either. [18:03] yano was asking about it. [18:29] really wanted to go to notacon this year, but we started finishing the basement, so i'll be in my basement every weekend for the forseeable future [18:57] so, exchange server converts mail sent in plain text to html... [18:58] WTF [18:58] what kind of shitty mailserver alters the contents of your mail messages... [18:58] right? [18:58] at least gmail does it on the front-end [18:59] well...hmmm [18:59] so if I use mutt / smtp [18:59] it works [18:59] i'm using a middleware that scrapes their web interface and provides imap [18:59] groooooooos [18:59] § [18:59] maybe that's wy [18:59] wow, forgot I had that allias [19:00] cause the all knowing exchange admins decided that imap is a security risk and disabled it [19:00] idjits [19:00] SO, i need to use davmail so I can run thunderbird [19:00] *waves* [19:00] * thafreak hides [19:01] *kicks thafreak* >.> [19:01] * thafreak ouch WTF [19:01] The ninja strikes :P [19:01] damn ninjas [19:01] How's it goin folks? [19:04] The ninja waves before an attack? This may be the less-than-average ninja. [19:04] Ninja's don't need stealth anymore, everyone ignores them so we can afford to be polite before striking. ;) [19:51] hey BiosElement2 [19:51] Hello paultag, did you enjoy the game canthus13 sent you? [19:51] Hey paultag ^_^ [19:51] fffffuuuuuu [19:51] *the* game [19:51] * canthus13 slaps Unit193 with a large trout. [19:52] ...I'm sorry, I couldn't help it! [19:52] neither could I. :) [19:52] * canthus13 has this weird large trout reflex. [19:52] I don't normally follow along with that, buuut. [19:57] JERKS! [22:18] Sure got quiet fast when the fish attacked ;P [22:54] * canthus13 waves hsi trout warningly at BiosElement2. [22:55] Hsi? What's that? :---D [22:55] jrgifford, you are going to notacon? [22:56] I'd guess so by how he said it.