[00:01] <KM0201> nexushaxx: when i tried installling w/ the .deb (on 12.04) it didn't work..
[00:01] <KM0201> i ended up having to install flash "manually"
[00:01] <nexushaxx> esteban22x: yes can be work with 1.6 Ghz and less
[00:01] <nexushaxx> haw you do that ?
[00:02] <KM0201> excelsior: what do you mean get get around a way to use ubuntu desktop?
[00:02] <KM0201> a GUI on a server is kinda silly.
[00:02] <excelsior> I suppose, but I'm trying to approach this in the most optimal way.
[00:02] <KM0201> nexushaxx: go to the download page, and download the .tar.gz file.
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: do you mean ubuntu clients to a 2008 terminal server?
[00:02] <esteban22x> but I have 1.6 and ubuntu works slowly even with gnome classic
[00:03] <nexushaxx> km0201:yes I did'it
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> esteban22x: my 1.6Ghz sempron runs Unity2D just dandy with nvidia 6150LE 512Mb onboard
[00:03] <KM0201> nexushaxx: now, extract it.. you should have two files in there.
[00:04] <excelsior> Since they'll be accessing Ubuntu from these nComputing terminals, I figured Ubuntu server, but since they need remote desktop (and since I haven't seen reference to Ubuntu Server in any preliminary documentation) perhaps there's no Ubuntu Server?
[00:04] <inxtone> does anybody know any microsoft chats?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> !ltsp | excelsior
[00:04] <bazhang> ##windows inxtone
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> inxtone: try ##windows
[00:04] <inxtone> thank you
[00:04] <KM0201> nexushaxx: did you extract it?
[00:05] <nexushaxx> yes !! and ??
[00:05] <mystMan_> I just installed ubuntu on my computer and installed php5, mysql server and clien and apache2 how do i set up the local dev environment?
[00:05] <KM0201> one of the files is called "libflashplayer.so".. right click it, and copy it.
[00:05] <mystMan_> so that i can view the locally deveoped sites?
[00:05] <KM0201> nexes: then in nautilus.. go back to your home folder (/home/username)....
[00:05] <KM0201> click view/show hidden files and folders
[00:05] <nexushaxx> ok
[00:05] <KM0201> then find the ".mozilla" folder, and open it.
[00:05] <mystMan_> also how do i find out the su - root password??? i cant su - root
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: if you just want thin clients to run apps on the server, you can have SSH connections and use x forwarding. the apps will be processed on the server but show on the clients
[00:06] <KM0201> inside .mozilla, create a directory called "plugins"
[00:06] <nexushaxx> ok, done
[00:06] <inxtone> bazhang: no such room...
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mystMan_: the root account is disabled
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mystMan_: use:   sudo -i
[00:06] <KM0201> inside the plugins directory, paste the libflashplayer.so
[00:06] <mystMan_> oh ok just use sudo
[00:06] <mystMan_> got it
[00:06] <KM0201> nexushaxx: after you do that.
[00:06] <MrKixs> Hello all
[00:07] <KM0201> close all your browsers, and fire one up, and go to youtube, and you should have flash
[00:07] <bazhang> inxtone, yes there is. /join ##windows
[00:07] <mystMan_> so to my other question. i have been a windows user since i can remember but I develop in a shop that uses all linux machines.  How do i set up the local dev enviroment like WAMP so that i can develop locally and view in my browswer locally
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !lamp
[00:08] <nexushaxx> ok tha,k you so mach KM0201
[00:08] <KM0201> np
[00:08] <nexushaxx> thank you
[00:08] <MrKixs> can anyone point me to a way to fix the "black screen" issue
[00:08] <mystMan_> i like mysql better instead of postresql
[00:08] <mystMan_> thank bot
[00:08] <KM0201> can you point me to something explaining the "black screen" issue
[00:09] <MrKixs> no backlight on Laptop after install
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> MrKixs: what video chip do you use?
[00:10] <MrKixs> I'm embarssed to say but on this latop I don't know
[00:10] <MrKixs> one sec
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> MrKixs: what make and model laptop?
[00:10] <inxtone> what do you have against windows?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> inxtone: its offtopic here
[00:10] <inxtone> ill be back
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> inxtone: this is pure support only
[00:10] <bazhang> inxtone, its offtopic. lets move on
[00:10] <MrKixs> Acer Aspire  5734z
[00:11] <maslen> Does it make any sense that my 'init' process is using 2 GB of RAM?
[00:11] <maslen> (Ubuntu 11.10, x64)
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> MrKixs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11326650
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> maslen: does it use it straight from boot or does it slowly grow?
[00:12] <maslen> ah, I misread. I thoguht it said 'm'. my bad.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> MrKixs: you can add the option by holding shift at boot, then pree E to (e)dit the boot, after the word 'splash' add the boot option: acpi_os=      then press ENTER to continue the boot
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest50584
[00:14] <MrKixs> Thanks, will that still allow me to use dual screen?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> MrKixs: no idea, it should fix brightness though
[00:15] <MrKixs> thanks
[00:16] <Halexander9000> Greetings gentlehumans! I wish to install qjoypad, thus I have accessed this link http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/?q=qjoypad followed all the instructions, yet google chrome opens the link with, you guessed it, google chrome, ultimately failing to install the application I require. Could someone please help me unravel this mystery and get qjoypad installed?
[00:16] <Andril> hello all
[00:16] <MrKixs> I'll give it a shot soon as this distro stop installing
[00:17] <Chaosadnd> Hi everybody. First time here :P
[00:17] <MrKixs> Next I get to try and but my linux systems on a win 2008 domain, YA!
[00:17] <MrKixs> *put
[00:18] <Compt> OK, in Ubuntu 11.10 whenever my power cord disconnects before my battery is fully charged, no matter what the percentage, Ubuntu brings up the message "battery critically low" and it says it will suspend and all that good stuff. Even if I plug it back in, it still suspends. While it only takes a few seconds to load back in, it is a major annoyance. Has anyone else had a similar problem? I mean I even had it at 96% charge once, and it slipped out and Ubuntu bro
[00:18] <Compt> ught up the critically low battery message D:. And no, it's not my battery as on a full charge I can get about 4 hours in
[00:18] <Chaosadnd> Get to it how?
[00:20] <MrKixs> latter all
[00:20] <Chaosadnd> See ya
[00:20] <Halexander9000> Greetings gentlehumans! I wish to install qjoypad, thus I have accessed this link http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/11.10/?q=qjoypad followed all the instructions, yet google chrome opens the link with, you guessed it, google chrome, ultimately failing to install the application I require. Could someone please help me unravel this mystery and get qjoypad installed?
[00:21] <Chaosadnd> Can you cright click and open with?
[00:21] <Chaosadnd> right*
[00:21] <Halexander9000> Chaosadnd: Open with what?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: did you add the playdeb repo?
[00:22] <rallias> Is there any way I can get debug information on why my vpn connection is failing?
[00:22] <Chaosadnd> I'm assuming it wants a default browser?
[00:22] <ultimal> I am trying to use curlftpfs...how do I specify the password if it has @ in it?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd: no, any browser will doit
[00:22] <mentalove> does anyone know about openCL and gpu drivers on ubuntu 11.20 ?
[00:22] <iNeal> What are the main pros/cons for KVM and Virtualbox?
[00:22] <rallias> mentalove Do you mean 11.10 or 11.04?
[00:22] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Yes, I have. Firefox seems to open that link with Ubuntu software manager, yet it fails to find qjoypad in the repositories.
[00:22] <Phaba> i got a microsoft EULA come up on the terminal, non of the normal keys work how do i accept their terms of agreement from the terminal?
[00:22] <rallias> Phaba, hit tab then enter
[00:22] <Phaba> tried it
[00:22] <Chaosadnd> Can it be installed from a terminal?
[00:23] <mentalove> rallias, 11.10..
[00:23] <Phaba> Chaosadnd, some flash/java packages
[00:23] <rallias> mentalove, mmk... what are you trying to do with it?
[00:23] <Phaba> microsoft code in there somewhere i guess
[00:23] <mentalove> ultimately i want to mine bitcoins
[00:23] <Phaba> either way i have a EULA open on my terminal which wont do nada
[00:23] <Halexander9000> Chaosadnd: I do not know.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: try closing software centre and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install qjoypad
[00:23] <rallias> mentalove, ahh... what miner program are you using?
[00:23] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Alright.
[00:24] <mentalove> rallias,  -diablominer
[00:24] <rallias> mentalove, mmk, and what problem are you having with it?
[00:24] <Chaosadnd> Yes, what ActionParsnip said. but in a more quickly typing way than me :P
[00:24] <Phaba> okay had to use shift...
[00:24] <Phaba> problem solved
[00:24] <Phaba> :P
[00:25] <mentalove> rallias, i had it workign with my old nvidia 8800gt GPU... i bought a 6970 GPU to replace it
[00:25] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: I do believe you have solved the problem.
[00:25] <ultimal> anybody?
[00:25] <ultimal> I am trying to use curlftpfs...how do I specify the password if it has @ in it?
[00:25] <rallias> mentalove, AMD 6970?
[00:25] <mentalove> rallias, it now says "Failed to initialize OpenCL, make sure your environment is setup correctly
[00:25] <mentalove> "
[00:25] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Thank you for your time.
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Halexander9000: i'm guessing you didn't run: sudo apt-get update   after adding the deb
[00:25] <rallias> *radion
[00:25] <mentalove> rallias, yes amd
[00:25] <lrojas> hi all, can somebody point me to instructions on how to install chrome using PPA in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: do you mean chrome, or do you mean chromium?
[00:26] <lrojas> chrome
[00:27] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: I think I may have only used sudo apt-get update after installing the getdeb repos, not after the playdeb repos.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: what is the output of:  uname -m
[00:27] <plantian1> hi guys, does anyone know why file -ib file.csv would think that a file was text/x-java ?
[00:27] <Halexander9000> ActionParsnip: Thanks again.
[00:27] <lrojas> x86_64
[00:27] <mentalove> rallias, yes radeon
[00:27] <plantian1> but on another system, that i scp'ed it from, it reads text/plain ?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb; rm ./google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[00:28] <rallias> lrojas, Google chrome, the first result shows a google website. Download the .deb file it provides, and it will automatically make a sources.list.d item.
[00:28] <rallias> mentalove, Have you tried a different miner? For one thing, java isn't going to give you optimal results. For another, it appears to be the miner itself.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: the deb also adds the google repo so it will update when the reop gets updated
[00:29] <lrojas> rallias, i want to use a PPA, to facilitate updating and package managing
[00:29] <lrojas> so is better to install using the .deb?
[00:29] <rallias> lrojas, Yes. It will provide automatic updates
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: its the easiest way
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: the open source chromium-browser is in the default repos and doesn't have the tracking stuff in
[00:30] <lrojas> thanks, it was very confusing because i saw instructions that wanted to install some libraries before installing the .deb, and  all the PPA instructions i could find where kind of old
[00:30] <rallias> mentalove, Are you using a mac machine?
[00:31] <lrojas> ActionParsnip, but isn't chrome more stable than chromiun + have the flash thing
[00:32] <mentalove> rallias, no im not on a mac lol
[00:32] <rallias> mentalove, MMK. I'm unable to find a solution. Ultimately, I'd switch away from diablominer, just for the fact that it runs java, and java with gpu's is a PITFA.
[00:33] <lrojas> rallias, all i want chrome for is so i dont have to install flash
[00:33] <mentalove> rallias, okay thanks. i'll poke around a bit
[00:33] <rallias> lrojas, You aren't going to get that on linux
[00:33] <Zizoo> Hey, my external HD is not mounting, nor showing up on fdisk, but it is clearly powered and showing up on lsusb with the proper name. How can I mount it?
[00:33] <rallias> lrojas, Google doesn't package flash with chrome in linux distribution of its browser
[00:34] <MrUnagi> Why is vnc so hard on Ubuntu :/
[00:34] <rallias> MrUnagi, What problem are you having?
[00:34] <d-bugger> rallias: google does
[00:34] <MrUnagi> I cant connect to display :0
[00:34] <MrUnagi> Display 0
[00:34] <lrojas> rallias, if that's the case, why would anybody install chrome instead of chromiun?
[00:34] <rallias> d-bugger, No. Google said they won't distribute adobe flash with the linux distribution of Google Chrome
[00:35] <rallias> lrojas, Different theme, different featureset, knowledge that its being maintained by a familiar company?
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: no its just as stable
[00:36] <rallias> lrojas, and people like my grandmother "What's chromium? Some sort of google chrome ripoff?"
[00:36] <MrUnagi> rallias: And if I connect to display 1 there's nothing but wallpaper
[00:37] <lrojas> but wait, i just read in PC world that Adobe is discontinuing flash for Linux and the only way to access flash would be through chrome...
[00:37] <Zizoo> Any clues about why a an external HD wouldn't automount or show up on fdisk ("sudo fdisk -l"), but would show up on lsusb, or how I could fix that and mount?
[00:37] <lrojas> rallias, also, what is diferent?
[00:37] <mukti> Are there commands to increase and decrease the volume (from the terminal)?
[00:38] <rallias> lrojas, Absolutely nothing is different. Adobe said they were making flash only compatible with one certain API on linux that only is implemented in Chromium and its derivitives.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> lrojas: the world will have moved to HTML5 by then, nobody will care
[00:38] <mukti> or, are there commands for alsamixer that will increase/decrease volume?
[00:38] <rallias> lrojas, Actually... there's a PDF viewer built into google chrome... that's it
[00:38] <lrojas> i see,  ok, so this is a non issue then...
[00:39] <d-bugger> mukti: amixer set Master 70% unmute
[00:39] <MrUnagi> Like right now im connected to 5901 but it's just the wallpaper
[00:39] <lrojas> is it worth it, i mean chromiun, compared to Firefox ?
[00:39] <rallias> ActionParsnip, I hope so... people who insist flash is absolutely necessary just bug the crap out of me.
[00:40] <rallias> lrojas, Depends. Is your CPU multi-core or single-core?
[00:40] <d-bugger> mukti: Master is one of the devices. you'll have to find the names of them separately
[00:40] <lrojas> rallias, worst than flash are sites that require the microsoft thing... like netflix...
[00:40] <Zizoo> I am in the right channel for Ubuntu support, am I not?
[00:40] <Therion87> Sliverlight lol
[00:40] <Therion87> What crap
[00:40] <rallias> Zizoo,  you are
[00:40] <lrojas> rallias, how do i check?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> rallias: I install minitube on every OS I setup now, makes life easier :)
[00:41] <Therion87> I use Firefox still tho I have Chromium installed
[00:41] <rallias> lrojas, Is your computer slow or fast?
[00:41] <MrUnagi> How do I start GDP on display 1
[00:41] <MrUnagi> !gdm
[00:41] <lrojas> relatively fast, is an i5
[00:42] <rallias> lrojas, You have multicore. In that case, I'd recommend chrome/chromium.
[00:42] <MrUnagi> !gnome
[00:42]  * ActionParsnip wishes he had an i5
[00:42] <Zizoo> Ok, well, my question's disappeared off the top again for me, so here we go again....
[00:42] <MrUnagi> !desktop
[00:42] <rallias> ActionParsnip, Don't feel bad, I still run a p4
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> rallias: sempron am2 :)
[00:42] <pgib> rallias, at least you stay warm at night
[00:42] <Zizoo> Does anyone know why an external HD wouldn't automount or appear with fdisk, but would show up on lsusb? How can I mount it?
[00:42] <MrUnagi> Gdm doesn't exist anymore?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> rallias: p4 is a great chip
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: sure it does
[00:43] <rallias> pgib, my PS3 helps with that as well. IKR?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> !info gdm oneiric | MrUnagi
[00:43] <MrUnagi> I don't see it
[00:43] <pgib> IKR=?
[00:43] <MrUnagi> Ok let me back up
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: its in the universe repo
[00:43] <Kanerix> IKR = I Know Rite
[00:43] <MrUnagi> I am vnc into display 1 but gnome isn't running
[00:43] <MrUnagi> How do I start it for :1
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: what are you VNCing to achieve?
[00:44] <rallias> Zizoo, open it with nautilus?
[00:44] <MrUnagi> Control of the remote box
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: but to achieve what on the remote box?
[00:44] <gorgonzola> hello peoples! i just updated to precise from oneiric, and now i'm getting hard locks everytime i try to boot the 3.2 kernel. any idea on how o go about reporting this bug?
[00:44] <Zizoo> rallias, it doesn't appear.
[00:44] <rallias> ActionParsnip, Only to a dreamer.
[00:44] <MrUnagi> Everything
[00:44] <MrUnagi> Whatever I cant do via cli
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise support please
[00:44] <rallias> Zizoo, Its possible that your specific usb device isn't compatible with linux...
[00:45] <rallias> BTW, when is 12.04 coming out?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: I bet you can do nearly everything fast via not using vnc
[00:45] <rallias> "officially"?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> rallias: end of the month
[00:45] <MrUnagi> Usually
[00:45] <Zizoo> I could swear I'd used it before from linux.... I'll try seeing if gparted sees it.
[00:45] <rallias> ActionParsnip, Oh, so I could have beaten the crowd even if I procrastinated?
[00:45] <MrUnagi> I would just feel better if I had vnc control
[00:45] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip, i'm already there. but my question is more general, ie, is there any way to save the kernel buffer if the kernel is locking up before initializing anything?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: your quesion is regarding Precise which isn't supported here until release day
[00:46] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip or more simply, how do i report bugs in the kernel boot process?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> !bug | gorgonzola
[00:46] <rallias> Zizoo, I've had similar problems with android... it has to do with the USB read/write permissions.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: install openssh-server and you can connect securely to your home folder and manipulate your files without problem
[00:47] <MrUnagi> Except when there are problems
[00:47] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip ... a simple "i have no idea" would have been helpful. i know how to file bugs, i need to know how to o something needed for the bug report.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: the bot told you
[00:47] <Zizoo> Thank you, but I think I fixed it. It started showing up in fdisk as soon as I accessed it from gparted for some unfathomable reason.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: or ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:48] <MrUnagi> Is gdm not the default desktop manager anymore?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: no, lightdm is
[00:48] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip dude. you are not reading my question. this is not a question about ubuntu+1. this is a uestion about filing bugs, but not a general type of question. the question is: how do i produce error reports to include in the bug that i alredy know how to fill that occurs in the kernel boot process
[00:48] <MrUnagi> So how does one start lightdm on :1
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: ubuntu-bug linux     should kick off the process
[00:49] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip, in other words, does anyone here know how to save kernel boot messages? bootlogd is not working either, as the error occurs before it gets started.
[00:50] <gorgonzola> ok, i'm off to filing a rather useless bug report, or resorting to taking screenshots of the screen. sory if i sounded rude, thanks for your time.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: /var/log/dmesg*  maybe, one may be the last boot, the guys managing the bugs can advise how to get what they need
[00:50] <snap_> Hey there, does anyone know if there is a way to get dmraid to construct a raid with disks missing, the way mdadm can?
[00:50] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip, yeah, i guess i'll file it as is, and then see how to produce errors. i just thougth that  was a rather common thing.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: that's what I was getting at :). Remember Ubuntu's target audience :D
[00:51] <MrUnagi> Lightdm :1?
[00:51] <MrUnagi> !lightdm
[00:52] <gorgonzola> Beleive me, if he target audience updates heir machine and the only thing it gets is  blinking capslock, they will freak out for sure. i did :S
[00:52] <gorgonzola> sppecially now that grub2 is booting default options automatically
[00:52] <MrUnagi> Or if I can figure out vnc to display 0 then I wouldn't care about display 1
[00:54] <Bndr5> hi @ll
[00:54] <Bndr5> someone know why this error and how to solve ?  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages) !!!!
[00:56] <rallias> how do I turn something from an init.d thing to a service thing?
[00:57] <Bndr5> rallias,  service init.d start/reboot
[00:57] <Kanerix> Bndr5, well, it looks like there's a duplicate entry in the file it mentioned
[00:57] <Kanerix> remove the duplicate and it'll probably stop complaining
[00:57] <escott> !upstart | rallias if you want to convert to upstart job look at the other upstart jobs
[00:57] <Bndr5> Kanerix, and how can i remove the duplicate ?
[00:57] <damian_> hey
[00:57] <Bndr5> i see this  W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[00:58] <Kanerix> Bndr5, edit the file in vim, then find the duplicate line, and hit "dd"
[00:58] <spacecase-25> can anyone help me rebuild my xorg.conf file?  I n00b'd hard and deleted it, no backup.  managed to get xserver running again with "X -configure" but the screen isn't configured correctly.  Anyway to get back to what was generated by the installer (without reinstalling)?
[00:58] <Kanerix> then save it by typing :wq!
[00:58] <Bndr5> Kanerix, in gedit ?
[00:58] <Kanerix> I did say vim
[00:59] <escott> spacecase-25, there is no xorg.conf unless you used nvidia drivers
[00:59] <Kanerix> in gedit, just delete the line
[00:59] <Bndr5> i can try
[00:59] <Kanerix> you have to be root
[00:59] <Kanerix> so use sudo
[00:59] <MrUnagi> Ok fine.....let's do it this way.....how do I fix invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errors
[00:59] <snap_> escott: ati drivers generate one aswell
[00:59] <spacecase-25> I'm using ati drivers
[00:59] <Kanerix> MrUnagi, I don't know, sorry
[01:00] <MrUnagi> Kanerix: Do you know how to start lightdm on display :1
[01:00] <MrUnagi> Or vnc to display :0
[01:00] <MrUnagi> :0
[01:00] <MrUnagi> Sigh display 0
[01:00] <Kanerix> VNC is usually 5900 + display number
[01:00] <Bndr5> Kanerix, i dont find the duplicated
[01:00] <Kanerix> 5901 should be :1
[01:01] <MrUnagi> But there is nothing on :1
[01:01] <Bndr5> I dont find this /archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386
[01:01] <snap_> spacecase-25: aticonfig --initial should set up a basic one
[01:01] <escott> MrUnagi, you would have to have permissions to draw to display :0 but if you export DISPLAY=:0 and then start the vnc server that should work
[01:01] <Kanerix> ^
[01:01] <MrUnagi> How do you export : p
[01:01] <MrUnagi> 0
[01:02] <Kanerix> um
[01:02] <escott> MrUnagi, "export DISPLAY=:0
[01:02] <Kanerix> yeah
[01:02] <Kanerix> that's a command
[01:02] <MrUnagi> So !! Then vnc server?
[01:02] <Kanerix> export DISPLAY=:0
[01:02] <Kanerix> run that
[01:03] <MrUnagi> Then?
[01:03] <Kanerix> run the vnc server
[01:03] <Kanerix> like escott said
[01:04] <MrUnagi> That's what I said lol !! && vncserver
[01:04] <MrUnagi> Won't let me connect
[01:04] <MrUnagi> Vncserver started on :3
[01:04] <Kanerix> so
[01:04] <Kanerix> export DISPLAY=:3
[01:05] <Kanerix> also make sure your firewall ain't blocking it
[01:05] <escott> MrUnagi, after export DISPLAY=:0 does running "xclock" start a clock on display 0
[01:05] <MrUnagi> Display :3 won't have anything on it
[01:06] <ozzloy> someone say my name
[01:06] <MrUnagi> Does it matter if :O is at the log in screen
[01:06] <MrUnagi> : p
[01:06] <Logan_> ozzloy
[01:06] <MrUnagi> Er
[01:06] <MrUnagi> : 0
[01:06] <ozzloy> Logan_, thanks.  didn't work.
[01:07] <Logan_> np
[01:07] <MrUnagi> escott: I cant see display 0 to tell
[01:07] <MrUnagi> But when I ran xclock it says it ant open display :0
[01:08] <escott> MrUnagi, ok. then you may not have permissions to draw to that display
[01:08] <MrUnagi> Why wouldn't I
[01:09] <escott> MrUnagi, because you havent configured yourself to. Are you the same user? Have you exported an XAUTHORITY variable to point to the xauth file if its not in ~/.xauthority?
[01:10] <MrUnagi> I don't know what any of that means
[01:10] <Kanerix> ugh I hate xauth stuff
[01:10] <MrUnagi> Why is vnc so hard on ubuntu
[01:11] <MrUnagi> I cant vnc to 0 but I can vnc to 1
[01:11] <MrUnagi> But that does nothing for me
[01:12] <MrUnagi> How can I start lightdm on :1
[01:12] <spacecase-25> no luck with that rebuild... xserver wouldn't start and the conf file didn't look anything like the original one
[01:14] <MrUnagi> invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errors how does one fix this
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Bndr5: http://pastie.org/3771707
[01:16] <Bndr5> ActionParsnip, ohh. thanks !
[01:16] <Bndr5> im checking...
[01:16] <MrUnagi> So.....vnc to : 0.......start lightdm on :1....... Or fix invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errors
[01:17] <MrUnagi> One of those three would help
[01:18] <twoten210> I have no sound from my xubuntu 11.10 install
[01:18] <MrUnagi> Totally would ease some stress
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> twoten210: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[01:20] <escott> !attitude | MrUnagi, it would also help if you answered my earlier question. "are you the same user starting vnc, as who started the display on :0"
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: or abandon vnc and use sleeker methods :)
[01:21] <MrUnagi> ActionParsnip: Which is why there is option 3
[01:21] <MrUnagi> escott: Display 0 is probably at a logininvalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errorsscreen
[01:21] <MrUnagi> Er
[01:21] <MrUnagi> Login screen
[01:22] <savr> hi
[01:22] <savr> I am using an uefi laptop
[01:22] <teligard2_> Hi all
[01:22] <MrUnagi> So if there is a sleek method I am all ears
[01:22] <pooltable> help it there a way to password a folder ?
[01:22] <savr> does ubuntu support installing by default on uefi?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: to do what?
[01:22] <savr> non mac
[01:22] <MrUnagi> To fix invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errors
[01:22] <teligard2_> Any ideas why I can't get audio to play with xbmcbuntu 11.10 installed?
[01:22] <escott> MrUnagi, so lightdm owns the display, and you might want to run xauth as root to enable access to that display. I'm not sure what is the recommended configuration
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: if you set your user as owner and give no other users access then your user password will be the password to acess the folder
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: In what context?
[01:23] <MrUnagi> Rsync, cp
[01:23] <teligard2_> I have 2 audio devices listed; an HDMI audio and an analog audio (I'm trying to use the analog audio)
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> teligard2_: xbmcbuntu isn't supported here
[01:24] <scar3crow> question: best tv viewer?
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> scar3crow: none and all
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> scar3crow: there is no single best solution for anything
[01:24] <MrUnagi> ActionParsnip: These won't rsync or cp over
[01:24] <scar3crow> easiest to configure...\
[01:25] <L3top> Probably mythbuntu
[01:25] <L3top> if you are in the US
[01:25] <scar3crow> nope
[01:25] <L3top> VDR
[01:25] <scar3crow> k
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: if you have nautilus, you can connect to SSHFS and copy that way. Is that sufficient or do you need the rsync features in the copy?
[01:26] <ChaoticanarchyX> hi all, can anyone help me with compiling a game file?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> scar3crow: tvtime isn't bad
[01:26] <MrUnagi> I just need the files copied over....all I have is Ssg
[01:26] <MrUnagi> Ssg
[01:26] <MrUnagi> ..ssh
[01:26] <scar3crow> ActionParsnip: k
[01:27] <pooltable> ActionParsnip there is only one user me
[01:27] <MrUnagi> Im trying to vnc so I can use nautilus to copy them
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: nautilus can connect to the ssh server. You have an SFTP server as well when you installed openssh-server ;)
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: do you have nautilus on the client system?
[01:27] <MrUnagi> No
[01:27] <lrojas> hi guys, i just installed vim-gtk on a fresh ubuntu 11.10  install.... but when i go to sash home, and search for gvim is not there...
[01:27] <twoten210> ActionParsnip: I dl'ed the alsa-info file but it runs with a dozen errors on the first 10 lines
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: is it a Linux based OS?
[01:28] <MrUnagi> iOS
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: then where is the issue, protecting the files from yourself?
[01:28] <lrojas> anybody knows why i can launch it from command line but not from dash home?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: doesn't it have an SFTP client?
[01:28] <pooltable> ActionParsnip well i do not wish my kids to read it
[01:29] <arand> lrojas: Is it not called simply "vim" ?
[01:29] <lrojas> i tried that too... not finding it
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: then give them their own account, then they won't get sudo access etc either..
[01:29] <ChaoticanarchyX> anyone know how to compile Rise of the Triad?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> twoten210: can you pastebin the command and the text it outputs please
[01:29] <savr> does ubuntu support installing by default on uefi? non mac
[01:29] <ChaoticanarchyX> or point me in the direction to compiling it?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> ChaoticanarchyX: now that's a blast from the past
[01:30] <pooltable> ActionParsnip ok so no way to do it now
[01:30] <escott> savr, install grub-efi and you should be fine
[01:30] <A-KO|lptp> how do I set up identd?
[01:30] <MrUnagi> Is there just not a way to start lightdm on display 1
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: not that I know of, maybe others can help. I suggest you make a username for each user though.
[01:30] <ChaoticanarchyX> yesa, i found a copy at my local Savers (2nd hand store) and want to get it up and going. got it working on my DS and now i want it on the big screen xD
[01:30] <savr> escott, from windows? cause I can't boot into ubuntu
[01:31] <escott> savr, what happens when you try to boot the livecd/usb
[01:31] <ShawnRisk> how do I locate Rhythmbox Music Player and add this to the desktop as a shortcut?
[01:31] <savr> escott, it works ;)
[01:31] <gio333> is it normal to have a CPU Pentium M 1.7 running on 100% when I am using Lubuntu ?
[01:32] <MrUnagi> That's really all I want to do, start a dm on display 1
[01:32] <escott> savr, so.... where does the problem begin? Do you need help chrooting in?
[01:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> Ive installed it from the Ubuntu software center and even downloaded the files from the developer website but i am still very new to linux when i comes to compiling and such
[01:32] <MrUnagi> Is this not possible?
[01:33] <savr> escott, I have installed and can't boot in after installation
[01:34] <MrUnagi> How do you start lightdm
[01:34] <escott> savr, ok start the livecd, and then you can chroot in and install grub-efi
[01:34] <MrUnagi> !loghtdm
[01:34] <MrUnagi> !lightdm
[01:34] <savr> meh
[01:35] <MrUnagi> ...2 hours I have been fighting this.....ridiculous
[01:35] <pooltable> ActionParsnip will this work ?
[01:35] <pooltable> ActionParsnip will this work ? http://www.knowledgesutra.com/discuss/tppsst-lock-folder-application.html
[01:35] <savr> escott, should the installer installed it automatically or offer me the choice?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: try it on a dummy folder, to test
[01:35] <gorgonzola> ActionParsnip, FYI, if any other peep comes along with a similar question, it seems we have pretty thorough how-tos on reporting esoteric kernel bugs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot
[01:35] <MrUnagi> It's like I have to ask the question the right way
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> !info rott
[01:35] <escott> savr, efi is fairly cutting edge there will be some growing pains
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> gorgonzola: nice :)
[01:36] <MrUnagi> How do I start lightdm on display :1......why is there nothing on the screen when I vnc to 5901......
[01:36] <ChaoticanarchyX> ActionParsnip In terminal
[01:36] <savr> escott, so not yet?
[01:36] <twoten> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Jt8BBesP
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> ChaoticanarchyX: you don't need to compile it, you just need to put the game files in the right place
[01:37] <MrUnagi> Why is vnc so hard on ubuntu
[01:37] <avdeveloper> Does anyone know a good program for screen sharing like the feature on Skype?
[01:37] <MrUnagi> Does the remote ubuntu have to be logged in to vnc to display :0
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> twoten: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release
[01:37] <avdeveloper> I don't think Skype for Linux has that feature yet
[01:38] <ChaoticanarchyX> ActionParsnip what directory would be the right place>
[01:38] <MrUnagi> Do none of those questions have an answer
[01:38] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[01:38] <escott> savr, not yet what?
[01:38] <MrUnagi> ShawnRisk: I feel your pain
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ChaoticanarchyX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624474
[01:39] <avdeveloper> I didn't see your question ShawnRisk
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ChaoticanarchyX: all I'm doing is websearching
[01:39] <savr> escott, ubuntu doesn't install grub-efi with the installer?
[01:39] <ShawnRisk> how do I locate Rhythmbox Music Player and add this to the desktop as a shortcut?
[01:39] <escott> ShawnRisk, what you want to do is symlink to the executable
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: copy the file for /usr/share/applications   to the desktop
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnRisk: *from
[01:40] <MrUnagi> How do I start lightdm on display :1......why is there nothing on the screen when I vnc to 5901......Does the remote ubuntu have to be logged in to vnc to display 0
[01:40] <ShawnRisk> looking
[01:41] <twoten> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/925808/
[01:41] <escott> savr, it might not since efi is brand new, but if you chroot in you can install it
[01:41] <fall0ut> is dmraid broken on the 12.04 installer?
[01:41] <savr> so you don't know escott ?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> twoten: strange how the script dodn't get that.
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> fall0ut: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:43] <MrUnagi> How does one fix invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character (84) errors
[01:43] <avdeveloper> I enabled remote Viewing on my box
[01:43] <avdeveloper> how do I let someone outside my LAN to view it?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> twoten: are you trying to use HDMI audio?
[01:43] <twoten210> ActionParsnip: the script put out a bunch of errors like "{{" not found
[01:43] <avdeveloper> my screen*
[01:43] <twoten210> er [[
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | avdeveloper
[01:44] <escott> savr, if you boot the livecd and chroot in you could install grub-efi
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> avdeveloper: be sure to use the SSH tunnel
[01:44] <avdeveloper> not vnc?
[01:44] <avdeveloper> is there any application I can just install?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> advanxer: yes, vnc through an SSH tunnel
[01:44] <MrUnagi> avdeveloper: Vnc is impossible on ubuntu it seems
[01:44] <twoten210> ActionParsnip: yes hdmi
[01:44] <avdeveloper> so the remote viewing that's built in is only for remote viewing within LAN
[01:44] <savr> escott, I know this... I just want to know if everyone must do this or just some people with efi
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> twoten210: I've no experience of that, my sound troubleshooting ability is poor
[01:45] <ShawnRisk> thanks worked
[01:45] <twoten210> ActionParsnip: your hilarious
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> twoten210: keep that link though, it'll be useful for future asking :)
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> twoten210: 'you're'  ;)
[01:46] <MrUnagi> I think im being ignored now
[01:46] <MrUnagi> Im not sure why though
[01:46] <twoten210> ActionParsnip: I'll look carefully at the script output - thanks for your help!
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: if nobody can answer then you'll get taht
[01:46] <MrUnagi> 4 questions with no answers to them......that's impressive :)
[01:47] <MrUnagi> You'd think I was solving mysteries of the universe
[01:47] <escott> savr, i dont know
[01:48] <escott> MrUnagi, the bad attitude doesn't help much. its def. why i'm going to add you to my ignore list
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: install an sftp client on yuor phone, much easier
[01:48] <MrUnagi> Sftp won't connect
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: should connect to port 22, assuming you have openssh-server installed
[01:48] <MrUnagi> I imagine sftp wouldn't work anyway
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: so you haven't tried?
[01:48] <MrUnagi> If I cant cp or rsync why would sftp work
[01:49] <pooltable> ActionParsnip did not work
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: its a different app. Worth a try
[01:49] <MrUnagi> If I could get it to connect
[01:49] <Orby> just updated nvclock on 11.10 64bit, now when i try and use nvclock it just segfaults and doesnt give any points as to why.. any ideas please
[01:50] <wifioregon> hi. Whats an irc client that handles file sharing that works on ubuntu? Thanks
[01:51] <gnychis> has anyone gotten Beta 2 to work in vmware fusion?
[01:52] <bkerensa> wifioregon: ?
[01:52] <wifioregon> hi
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: handles file sharing in what way?
[01:52] <Logan_> wifioregon: As in DCC?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: do you mean receving files from users?
[01:52] <MrUnagi> Omg this is going to take forever
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> wifioregon: pidgin does that
[01:53] <wifioregon> Logan_: Yea I want to send a file to a buddy. Okay thanks.
[01:53] <BioBuny> is this the room noob can ask their questions with out being flamed?
[01:53] <Logan_> BioBuny: Yep. :-)
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> BioBuny: as long as its ubuntu support related it's fine :)
[01:53] <bkerensa> wifioregon: on a side note I see your a Oregonian... Feel free to PM me for info on the Ubuntu Oregon LoCo
[01:54] <Bsims> BioBuny:  whats da problem
[01:54] <avdeveloper> ok it was pretty simpl
[01:54] <avdeveloper> to get the VNC to work
[01:54] <KM0201> is ubottu taking the night off?
[01:54] <BioBuny> ok. my ubuntu does come with screen saver installed in the start up.. how do I do that?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[01:54] <Logan_> KM0201: Connection problems.
[01:54] <avdeveloper> what program should a mac user use to view my screen on ubuntu
[01:54] <KM0201> Logan_: ah ok
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> BioBuny: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[01:55] <escott> avdeveloper, vnc
[01:55] <BioBuny> thax action
[01:55] <Bsims> BioBuny:  its under monitor in setup for some amazing reason at on kde
[01:55] <MrUnagi> Sftp wont work
[01:55] <Logan_> avdeveloper: http://www.teamviewer.com/ is quite easy to set up (cross-platform).
[01:55] <Logan_> avdeveloper: VNC works too, but it requires more involved work.
[01:56] <jamjam> do you know any guide on clustering x86_64 computers using ubuntu?
[01:56] <gio333> my Pentium M 1,7 GHz CPU runs 100% at Lubuntu. This mustn't be normal . Right ?
[01:56] <MrUnagi> Does the remote ubuntu have to be logged in to vnc to display : 0.....why is there nothing on the screen when I vnc to :1.......how can I start lightdm on :1......
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> gio333: run:  top    what is the highest?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> gio333: what video chip do you use?
[01:58] <jamjam> @gio333 install htop to help you determine whats causing high cpu usage >> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/using-htop-to-monitor-system-processes-on-linux/
[02:01] <scientes> ^^^
[02:01] <scientes> +1 for htop
[02:02] <gio333> I have the task manager open
[02:02] <scientes> htop is the only system monitor that doesn't eat CPU
[02:02] <gio333> and it tells me that firefox is running 44 %
[02:02] <gio333> how to run htop?
[02:02] <scientes> gio333, install it
[02:02] <scientes> gio333, and then run it
[02:03] <_klk_> hi all, i'm having trouble getting my machine running ubuntu server 12.04 to connect to a wireless network
[02:03] <scientes> despite being in the termianl, it support mouse
[02:03] <_klk_> i'm new to this setup and could use some help
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> gio333: top is in the default install. Firefox will chew your CPU to bits
[02:04] <gio333> look is it possible to have lubuntu 11.10 a chromium open with 2 tabs of youtube and not to be at 100% the pentium M 1.7 GHZ ?
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> _klk_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for Precise help
[02:04] <_klk_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[02:04] <scientes> gio333, flash is a really badly performing app
[02:04] <scientes> it will eat your battery
[02:05] <gio333> scientes:I dont care about the battery , I care about the CPU
[02:05] <scientes> gio333, its basically the same
[02:06] <jamjam> @gio333 you can limit your cpu usage though..
[02:06] <BioBuny> thank you I'll see if that works
[02:06] <scientes> gio333, basic fact also is that video decoding is very heavy
[02:06] <scientes> gio333, use htop and up the nice of the flash process, so it doesn't stop other things
[02:08] <k_sze> From a terminal in Ubuntu (or any Linux, actually), is it possible to tell what version of SMB (Server Message Block) is supported by a remote host? Let's assume I don't know what operating system is installed on the remote host, I only know that I can mount its SMB shares.
[02:08] <gio333> jamjam:what do you mean limit mycpu usage?
[02:08] <jamjam> @gio333 I think this guide can help you, Set maximum CPU consumption in percentage by any process  >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=992706
[02:09] <scientes> yuck on that jamjam, nice is far better
[02:09] <jamjam> @gio333 flash is really heavy on cpu.
[02:09] <scientes> but yeah flash sucks ass
[02:09] <pangolin> scientes, Please mind your language
[02:10] <blackmatrix_ny> hi...where do I configure to make my ipod in disk mode...ubuntu 10.04
[02:10] <gio333> scientes: what do you mean nice the flash ?
[02:10] <scientes> gio333, use htop, and hit F8 on the flash process
[02:10] <scientes> gio333, man renice
[02:10] <gio333> scientes: what is nice?
[02:10] <scientes> ^^see man renice
[02:11] <BioBuny> who here is well verse in the simple LightDm manager?
[02:11] <kamal77> hi
[02:11] <BioBuny> it seems like a easy program.. but it's not working
[02:11] <kamal77> whats up
[02:11] <MrUnagi> BioBuny: Yea im trying to figure out howto start it on display :1
[02:11] <gio333> scientes : what is renice?
[02:12] <scientes> gio333, type "man renice" into the terminal
[02:12] <BioBuny> I ran it, and now  I have zero start up splash screen.. grr
[02:12] <scientes> MrUnagi, DISPLAY=:1 application
[02:13] <MrUnagi> So DISPLAY=:1 lightdm start?
[02:13] <kamal77> fuc k
[02:13] <scientes> MrUnagi, no, do you even know what you are trying to do?
[02:13] <scientes> i dont think DISPLAY is it
[02:14] <BioBuny> its a GUI MrUnagi
[02:14] <LTB_> Hey guys! Is there a way to make the "chmod 777" command affect everything in an entire file? I'd have to have to do the command 700 times...
[02:14] <MrUnagi> Yes, get a working desktop environment on display :1
[02:14] <scientes> MrUnagi, you mean a second one?
[02:14] <MrUnagi> Since i cant vnc 5900.....yes
[02:14] <usr13> LTB_: -R  --recursive
[02:14] <LTB_> usr13: does it matte at what point in the command?
[02:15] <jamjam> I think it's reasonable, because he's asking not to be at 100% the pentium M 1.7 GHZ
[02:15] <usr13> MrUnagi: You may have to do export DISPLAY=:1.1
[02:15] <scientes> jamjam there is nothing wrong with 100%
[02:15] <usr13> LTB_: What?
[02:15] <escott> LTB_, you should be asking why you want to do that. is 777 really correct?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gio333: try arora instead
[02:15] <LTB_> usr13: so "sudo chmod 777 foldername -R"?
[02:15] <LTB_> Well
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> gio333: or midori
[02:15] <LTB_> Isn't 777 for read,write,execute?
[02:16] <escott> LTB_, for anyone and everyone who has any form of access to that computer yes
[02:16] <jamjam> ^^
[02:16] <scientes> LTB_, usr13 chmod 777 is like "..wait im not going to make such a nauty analogy
[02:16] <usr13> LTB_: sudo chmod -R 777 /dir/name   #to change files adn directories recursively
[02:16] <MrUnagi> usr13: What does that do
[02:16] <LTB_> usr13: cheers! Well, ok, what would you suggest then? If I only want read, write
[02:16] <usr13> LTB_: sudo chmod -R 777 /dir/name/*   #to change files adn directories recursively
[02:16] <jrib> LTB_: 777 is never the answer :/
[02:16] <scientes> ^^
[02:17] <scientes> 777 is like alias for slutty
[02:17] <LTB_> jrib: haha, I'm the only one using this computer:D
[02:17] <LTB_> Apart from people hacking it I suppose
[02:17] <usr13> MrUnagi: I am late in the conversation and really dont' know what you are tring to do...
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> jrib: +1
[02:17] <gio333> @ActionParsnip midori and arora are distos ?
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> gio333: no, web browsers
[02:17] <LTB_> I started Linuxing about 12 weeks ago, so... pretty new at this:)
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> gio333: designed to be light
[02:18] <usr13> LTB_: sudo chmod -R +rw
[02:18] <escott> LTB_, even if its just you, you should be prepared in case at some point in the future you do need to give someone else access. for your files you want 750 for directories and 640 for files (or something along those lines)
[02:18] <LTB_> Alright, trying usr13's suggestion
[02:18] <LTB_> Hang on!
[02:19] <LTB_> "recursive" means "entire folder" of some kind or?:p
[02:19] <usr13> LTB_:  escott makes a good point.
[02:19] <scientes> LTB_, yeah either 4 or 0 for that last bit (also, maybe 5 in some cases)
[02:19] <MrUnagi> usr13: I just want to vnc my ubuntu box
[02:19] <gio333> what is mount.ntfs that runs at htop?
[02:19] <usr13> LTB_: recursive means entire folder and all folders thereafter, (so be careful).
[02:19] <gio333> it takes 40%
[02:20] <LTB_> Hah
[02:20] <LTB_> cool
[02:20] <MrUnagi> usr13: I cant connect to 5900.....vncserver starts on 5901....but there is no desktop manager running
[02:20] <usr13> MrUnagi: And you want to run a GUI app. and see it on server?  (or client?)
[02:20] <LTB_> That made me feel like a pro hacker rofl
[02:20] <LTB_> Shit!
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> gio333: guess
[02:20] <FloodBot1> LTB_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:20] <LTB_> I did the "777" without thinking
[02:20] <LTB_> Hahahaha
[02:20] <LTB_> How do I undo that
[02:20] <MrUnagi> usr13: I want the desktop to show
[02:20] <MrUnagi> The desktop manager
[02:20] <usr13> MrUnagi: If you want it to be seen on the server,   export DISPLAY=:0.0
[02:21] <MrUnagi> I tried DISPLAY=:0
[02:21] <MrUnagi> Didn't do anything
[02:21] <usr13> MrUnagi: Then just do vnc session.  vncviewer 192.168.x.xx
[02:21] <gio333> @ActionParsnip Ok , man I know that ntfs is a file system . And usually windows file system but what does it need from windows?
[02:21] <MrUnagi> Im not on linux on the client
[02:22] <usr13> MrUnagi: tightvnc is cross platform
[02:22] <MrUnagi> I cant connect to : 0
[02:22] <MrUnagi> Vnc server starts on :1
[02:23] <usr13> MrUnagi: You don't need to specify DISPLAY in a vnc session.  (That is for ssh session, and you would need to haev Xforwarding enabled in openssh-server
[02:24] <MrUnagi> 5900 won't connect because vncserver starts on 5901
[02:24] <vevais> Hello
[02:24] <usr13> MrUnagi: I don't know what vncserver you are using but you might try x11vnc
[02:25] <vevais> I removed OpenJDK and installed Sun-Java6-JDK, but a "java -version" still gives me this:
[02:25] <vevais> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10.2)
[02:25] <vevais> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[02:25] <vevais> What am I doing wrong?
[02:25] <usr13> MrUnagi: And I don't know what client you are using but you might try tightvnc
[02:25] <MrUnagi> I've tried x11vnc and I cant get it to work
[02:25] <MrUnagi> Tightvncserver only will start on 5901
[02:25] <usr13> MrUnagi: x11vnc -forever
[02:26] <usr13> MrUnagi: It works... I use it all the time.
[02:26] <MrUnagi> usr13: Does the remote ubuntu machine have to be logged in
[02:26] <usr13> Yes
[02:26] <MrUnagi> ...
[02:26] <MrUnagi> Why
[02:27] <MrUnagi> None of this makes sense
[02:27] <usr13> Because there needs to be an Xserver running.  There needs to be an Xservession to connect to.
[02:27] <MrUnagi> Why can I connect to :1 just fine
[02:27] <usr13> MrUnagi: Maybe you should start over.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[02:28] <MrUnagi> I just want to vnc into my remote ubuntu
[02:28] <usr13> MrUnagi: How remote is it?
[02:28] <MrUnagi> 600 miles
[02:28] <usr13> (Is it on the same network)?
[02:28] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, i am running a server with ubuntu server on it 11.10. Every time i start it i have to go to grub and change the "splash quiet" to "nomodeset" or it boots to a black screen. How can i make this change perma so it boots ok by iteslf
[02:28] <MrUnagi> No
[02:28] <ant0neo> my browser and clients freeze and darken (dim) when using my machine any ideas?
[02:28] <usr13> MrUnagi: Oh, ok.  Well you prolly need teamviewer or something like that.
[02:28] <MrUnagi> Why
[02:29] <MrUnagi> Why is vnc so hard on ubuntu
[02:29] <usr13> MrUnagi: Unless you have outside IP for the server end.
[02:29] <linuxman> Tightvnc is easy to install
[02:29] <MrUnagi> I have access to the machine
[02:29] <usr13> MrUnagi: Vnc is not hard on Ubuntu.
[02:29] <escott> Pinkamena_D, modify /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[02:29] <MrUnagi> My questions seem impossible to answer
[02:29] <usr13> MrUnagi: Ok then, it will work.
[02:29] <MrUnagi> It doesn't
[02:29] <usr13> MrUnagi: Ask it and see.
[02:30] <usr13> MrUnagi: Ask your question.
[02:30] <MrUnagi> If I have to be logged in on the remote machine.....why can I connect to :1
[02:30] <Pinkamena_D> ok, thanks
[02:30] <usr13> MrUnagi: You should be able to.  I don't know why not.
[02:30] <tjr-> I'm stuck on an install because it requires a module "but it is not installable".  Ala bugs 909880 and 976509.  Is there any guidance for getting more info about the failing package or working around the problem?
[02:30] <Pinkamena_D> one more
[02:31] <MrUnagi> Sould be able to what
[02:31] <MrUnagi> I can connect to :1 all day long but there is no window manager
[02:31] <usr13> MrUnagi: Connect via vnc
[02:31] <MrUnagi> I can to :1
[02:31] <MrUnagi> Not to : 0
[02:31] <MrUnagi> You said I have to be logged in to vnc
[02:31] <usr13> MrUnagi: What vncserver software are you using?
[02:32] <MrUnagi> Tight
[02:32] <usr13> MrUnagi: Read the man file.
[02:32] <MrUnagi> I have
[02:32] <MrUnagi> Several times
[02:32] <Pinkamena_D> I have had today a persistant crash of ubuntu that happens every time i transfer files over ftp from a client to the server that is running ubuntu. It happens about 20 or so seconds in to the transfer. I have been using the server for this purpose for many month but it just started now. What file would the crash log be saved in?
[02:33] <MrUnagi> It says nothing of a window manager
[02:33] <usr13> MrUnagi: man vncserver  &    man vncviewer
[02:33] <MrUnagi> .....ok
[02:33] <MrUnagi> Anyone know how to start lightdm on display :1
[02:34] <MrUnagi> usr13: If you were just going to default to the man page why did you wasted time
[02:34] <MrUnagi> Waste my
[02:34] <usr13> MrUnagi: It works.  I don't knwo what else to tell you.  I already suggested using x11vnc, but you said you could not get it to work.  So be it, it's always worked for me.  I've used both (x11vnc and vncserver)  and they both work just fine.
[02:34] <MrUnagi> So you are telling me,.....you can connect....even when yo arent logged in
[02:34] <MrUnagi> Even though you just said I have to be logged in
[02:35] <collinjsimpson> Is there is a distinct security difference between 'sudo bash' and 'su'?
[02:35] <escott> collinjsimpson, well su doesn't work on ubuntu by default, but both start a root shell. sudo -i is probably better than sudo bash
[02:35] <scientes> collinjsimpson, i recommend sudo su, or sudo -i, cause sudo bash doesn't not reset the environment variables right
[02:36] <usr13> MrUnagi: Yes, the machine must be running and a user logged in.  I already told you that.
[02:36] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: it depends on the vnc server like x11vnc server I think you can connect down to gdm login screen
[02:36] <escott> Pinkamena_D, you mean your server crashes 20 seconds into an ftp transfer? like a kernel oops?
[02:36] <MrUnagi> So then....it DOESN'T work for you
[02:36] <L3top_> sudo su has env carryover issues as well
[02:36] <scientes> L3top_, o sorry
[02:36] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: It says it needs the file.......but even when I -auth......still doesn't work
[02:37] <MrUnagi> X11vnc maybe not compatible with lightdm?
[02:37] <bazhang> scientes, recommended method is sudo -i for a root shell
[02:37] <usr13> MrUnagi: sacarlson Well yes you can also connect and run a second (separate) session.  There is that option too, but something I don't use much.
[02:37] <scientes> bazhang, well i've used ancient distros that dont have sudo -i
[02:37] <MrUnagi> usr13: So then what's the point of a remote viewer that requires you to have physical access to the remote computer
[02:37] <L3top_> sudo -s ?
[02:37] <bazhang> scientes, understood
[02:38] <bazhang> L3top_, sure could do
[02:38] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: you can also setup virtual frame buffers in x11vnc where the display is not seen on the server at all
[02:38] <Pinkamena_D> sorry for the long response
[02:38] <usr13> MrUnagi: I don't know what you mean by physical access to the remote computer, but what I said was that it has to be running and the Xserver running, otherwise you will need to just initiate secure shell session.  The choice is yours.
[02:39] <Pinkamena_D> yes, a bunch of text that does not really seem to be one single error comes up on the screen and the num lock and caps lock blink constantly
[02:39] <Pinkamena_D> (and its frozen to all commands)
[02:39] <MrUnagi> usr13: How do you remotely start xserver
[02:39] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: Which is stepping into things I don't know much about.....I can connect to :1 but there's no window manager
[02:39] <usr13> MrUnagi: If you don't have the vnc server running, you can initiate a secure shell in order to start the vnc server.  Right>>>>?
[02:40] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: I did find this http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/
[02:40] <escott> Pinkamena_D, you need to try and read that oops message and see what it says. you could try the sysreq magic keys to see if you can flush the logs to disk
[02:40] <MrUnagi> Right....
[02:40] <MrUnagi> Which I have done
[02:40] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: wonder why they have this config start from display=1?
[02:40] <MrUnagi> Vncserver wont run for : 0
[02:40] <MrUnagi> Only for :1
[02:40] <usr13> MrUnagi: ssh MrUnagi@192.168.1.9  #And then you can issue the command to start the vnc server of your choice.
[02:41] <Pinkamena_D> so the crash message is not logged automatically? What keys do i have to hit exactly?
[02:41] <MrUnagi> Which I have done
[02:41] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: I wonder if that file was changed to point to display 0 what would happen?
[02:42] <MrUnagi> Tightvncserver won't run for : 0
[02:42] <escott> !sysrq
[02:42] <usr13> MrUnagi: Then use x11vnc
[02:42] <MrUnagi> Boy you are helpful
[02:42] <usr13> MrUnagi: Its up to  you.  Use what is easiest.
[02:42] <sacarlson> usr13: MrUnagi: ya or restart the one he now runs with a different config
[02:42] <MrUnagi> None of then are
[02:42] <escott> Pinkamena_D, ubottu seems to be AWOL In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[02:42] <usr13> scientes: You are correct. Yes
[02:43] <MrUnagi> X11 won't run likely because it is on the login screen
[02:43] <Pinkamena_D> ouch, i can try that
[02:43] <usr13> sacarlson: But if he does not have the Xserver running on the server, he will not be able to conect to it.
[02:44] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: you can also change the settings of the user to have it auto login at boot
[02:44] <L3top_> MrUnagi, the fact that someone is trying to help you is really quite kind... to suggest that they are wasting your time because you are not able to undertsand or make work what is made to work by them is very rude. It is not they who are wasting your time...
[02:45] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: Isn't that bad security?
[02:45] <sacarlson> usr13: yes with this tightvnc I think your correct and I'm not even sure about x11vnc on the new versions of ubuntu
[02:45] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: why is someone in your house going to access your computer?
[02:46] <usr13> sacarlson: Yes, if he does not have a user logged into the Xserver, he's better off to use tightvnc (vncserver).
[02:46] <KM0201> MrUnagi: you know, there's a linux(and windows) appt hat is free called Teamviewer, i tmight do what you want w/ a LOT less headache
[02:46] <L3top_> and mac for that matter
[02:46] <MrUnagi> KM0201: That requires local access
[02:46] <L3top_> It does not
[02:46] <KM0201> MrUnagi: if you say so
[02:46] <MrUnagi> How do I get the log in numbers
[02:47] <L3top_> You set a permanent one
[02:47] <L3top_> the id never changes
[02:47] <MrUnagi> If I cant see it how do I set it
[02:47] <L3top_> you set a persistent login pass as complicated as you like
[02:47] <MrUnagi> From terminal?
[02:47] <usr13> On the server, you dould do    vncserver :1
[02:48] <MrUnagi> usr13: :1 has no dm
[02:48] <L3top_> I have not backread to see your xserver issue... have you used ssh -X ?
[02:48] <usr13> On the clinet, you would do   vncviewer 192.168.1.x:1
[02:49] <MrUnagi> usr13: I can successfully connect to :1 but there is no desktop manager
[02:49] <usr13> MrUnagi: Yea, you will just be in a Xserver with no dm
[02:49] <MrUnagi> How do you start dm for :1
[02:49] <Pinkamena_D> hmm,tsting it running at 100 mbits full duplex instead of 1 gigabit it has not crashed yet
[02:49] <usr13> MrUnagi: I don't know. Don't think you can.
[02:49] <MrUnagi> :(
[02:49] <Pinkamena_D> maybe i need to clean the dust out of something?
[02:49] <usr13> MrUnagi: Do you really need a dm?
[02:50] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: I wonder if you do a <ctr><alt>t if a term will pop up on your vnc client?
[02:50] <Pinkamena_D> wow it slowed down to like no speed at all
[02:50] <MrUnagi> Unless you know how to fix rsync error 83
[02:51] <mbeierl> anyone ever played with kobo/adobe digital editions under Wine on Ubuntu?  ADE works, but I cannot get it to authorize my Kobo - it doesn't "see" the usb device attached.
[02:51] <bazhang> mbeierl, #winehq for particular apps after checking the appdb
[02:52] <mbeierl> bazhang: thanks.
[02:52] <bazhang> !appdb
[02:52] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: what does rsync error 83 have to do with vnc?
[02:52] <bazhang> ah no bot
[02:52] <MrUnagi> sacarlson: Everything
[02:52] <MrUnagi> I cant rsync or cp because of special characters
[02:53] <usr13> MrUnagi: What exactly are you needing to do?
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: i'd ask in #winehq
[02:53] <ox1de> hi! i have a problem i need some help with
[02:53] <ox1de> when i boot up i get the message:
[02:53] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: already there, thanks
[02:53] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: special characters in the file name I take it?  still nothing to do with vnc but?
[02:54] <ox1de> "no init found"
[02:54] <MrUnagi> I have 133 files that won't cp or rsync because they have õ or ê
[02:54] <ox1de> "try passing init=boot"
[02:54] <ox1de> initramfs
[02:54] <Pinkamena_D> escott, i have just recreated the problem again
[02:54] <MrUnagi> Nautilus might copy them over
[02:54] <ox1de> can somebody help me?
[02:54] <usr13> MrUnagi:  Can you create an archive and then transfer them?
[02:55] <MrUnagi> They are in several different places
[02:55] <MrUnagi> Is there a way to take a list of their location and for loop them in?
[02:55] <phantasmoholic> how do i install ubuntu for android on my transformer prime tablet
[02:57] <bazhang> phantasmoholic, what is ubuntu for android
[02:57] <ox1de> can anybody help me???
[02:57] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: show us the command line with this rsync in it that you attempt to do that creates this error
[02:57] <MrUnagi> usr13: Is there a way to take a list and for loop it into an archive
[02:57] <Pinkamena_D> i see alot of errors on the screen, the top one reads: [ 1555.515541] [<ffffffff812e41f4>] ? cfq_dispatch_request+0x64/0xa0
[02:58] <MrUnagi> Rsync -avz /foo /bar
[02:58] <MrUnagi> Oh
[02:58] <MrUnagi> Hang on
[02:58] <usr13> MrUnagi: Creating an archive of a directory may be what you want to do.  tar -czf Documents.tgz Documents/   #Will create a compressed file of the Documents/ directory.
[02:59] <Pinkamena_D> one is shifted over to the side like it might be important: "mwait_idle+0x95/0x210"
[02:59] <MrUnagi> Seems overkill for 133 mp3s
[02:59] <ox1de> help?! anybody???
[02:59] <Pinkamena_D> but i dont really think this kind of technical info is useful to most users
[02:59] <usr13> MrUnagi: Then, from the client just do scp MrUnagi@192.168.1.x:Documents.tgz .
[02:59] <Pinkamena_D> the keyboard shortcut did nothing
[02:59] <bazhang> !helpme | ox1de
[03:00] <ox1de> !helpme
[03:00] <ox1de> ????????/
[03:00] <bazhang> ox1de, stop repeating every five seconds
[03:00] <ox1de> sorry....
[03:01] <usr13> MrUnagi: Or just ssh into the client and do:  tar -czf MP3s.tgz MP3s/
[03:01] <ox1de> what should i do baz?
[03:01] <MrUnagi> usr13: So there's no way to for loop specific ones?
[03:01] <usr13> MrUnagi: And then   scp MP3s.tgz  192.168.1.x:Music/
[03:01] <MrUnagi> For I in cat list; do
[03:01] <bazhang> ox1de, wait til you get a response. people see your issue and dont know the answer presently. so be patient
[03:02] <usr13> MrUnagi: Man tar.
[03:02] <ox1de> ok
[03:02] <Pinkamena_D> did that guy quit?
[03:02] <escott> Pinkamena_D, thats a bit lower in the stack trace than is desirable, but its evidently oopsing somewhere in the VFS layer (in particular inside the cfq dispatch). what kind of hard drives do you have on this?
[03:02] <Pinkamena_D> my bad
[03:03] <escott> ox1de, when did this start?
[03:03] <MrUnagi> append!
[03:03] <ox1de> today
[03:03] <usr13> MrUnagi: You could also start up an ftp server on the server end and get 'em that way.
[03:03] <Pinkamena_D> Their are two sata 2.5 inch 160gb ones and one SAS 2.5 inch 10k 72 gb all attached to the same SAS controller
[03:03] <ox1de> do u want a full synopsis of the problem?
[03:03] <Pinkamena_D> i have tested the ftp transfer to each of the three with the same result
[03:03] <MrUnagi> Tried it with sftp, that will tak forever
[03:04] <escott> Pinkamena_D, maybe a bug in your raid controller then?
[03:04] <escott> Pinkamena_D, assuming you are using RAID on a riser controller
[03:04] <Pinkamena_D> actually its not a raid controller (suprisingly). Are you suggesting a hardware issue?
[03:05] <escott> ox1de, i would boot the livecd and run an fsck on the root filesystem if you havent done that
[03:05] <ox1de> i dont have a livecd
[03:06] <bazhang> ox1de, then download and burn one
[03:06] <Pinkamena_D> the server is an IBM xseries 366, the controller is "planar" (seemingly attached by two parallel PCI-X slots) their is a slot where you can put a RAID board, but i do not have one installed.
[03:06] <usr13> ox1de: Or usb
[03:06] <escott> Pinkamena_D, its almost certainly a driver somewhere. either in the disk controller or in the ethernet controller, but based on your oops stacktrace it would seem to be the disk controller
[03:06] <ox1de> i have a usb flash
[03:06] <ox1de> drive
[03:06] <usr13> ox1de: There you go.
[03:06] <ox1de> where can i find the file to put on the usb?
[03:07] <ox1de> is there a way to fix it without the usb or livecd?
[03:07] <escott> ox1de, follow the instructions at ubuntu.com
[03:07] <Pinkamena_D> i wonder why its just started when its been fine for month
[03:07] <Pinkamena_D> s
[03:07] <Pinkamena_D> but i will look into the drivers for now
[03:07] <escott> Pinkamena_D, you could try using an older kernel
[03:08] <bazhang> ox1de, unetbootin to put the iso on there, or cat if it's 11.10
[03:08] <escott> Pinkamena_D, at the grub menu select the older kernel and see if it is stable then
[03:08] <usr13> ox1de: unetbootin - installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive
[03:08] <usr13> fyi
[03:08] <MrUnagi> After all of that I cant tar the mo3s for the same error
[03:08] <persona24> Hello, I downloaded Hulu Desktop (64 bit) and installed it and it won't open. What should I do?
[03:09] <usr13> MrUnagi: WHAT error?
[03:09] <bazhang> persona24, installed from where and  how
[03:09] <Pinkamena_D> ok, i will try that
[03:09] <MrUnagi> Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character usr13
[03:09] <persona24> bazhang: the Hulu website
[03:09] <ox1de> which version of ubuntu should i put on the usb?
[03:09] <bazhang> persona24, link please
[03:10] <bazhang> ox1de, 11.10
[03:10] <plustax> Im having a great deal of trouble installing gnome3 on my netbook running ubuntu. I also cant seem to get gparted installed so I can delete the windows partition on there. I have teamviewer, can anyone help me out real quick with these things?
[03:10] <persona24> bazhang: http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux
[03:10] <usr13> ox1de: ...or what ever you have on-hand.
[03:10] <xangua> plustax: gnome3 already comes in ubuntu oneiric 11.10
[03:11] <plustax> xangua, It didnt come with mine! :(
[03:11] <ox1de> so which file am i to put on the usb? the ubuntu installer?
[03:11] <xangua> plustax: are you using ubuntu oneiric¿
[03:11] <plustax> how do I check which version im running?
[03:11] <bazhang> Hulu Desktop for Linux is currently built on Fedora 11 and Ubuntu 9.04 persona24 so it's an OS?
[03:11] <plustax> I don't think its a network version O.o
[03:12] <escott> ox1de, just follow the instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[03:12] <persona24> bazhang: I'm using 11.04
[03:13] <usr13> MrUnagi: http://tuxera.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1086
[03:13] <bazhang> persona24, is hulu desktop an OS?
[03:13] <plustax> Im having a great deal of trouble installing gnome3 on my netbook running ubuntu. I also cant seem to get gparted installed so I can delete the windows partition on there. I have teamviewer, can anyone help me out real quick with these things?
[03:13] <persona24> An Operating System?
[03:13] <bazhang> plustax, which release of ubuntu
[03:14] <plustax> bazhang, not sure, how do I check?
[03:14] <plustax> im a bit noobish
[03:14] <persona24> bazhang: Oh! No, it's an app. Basically instead of going to the Hulu website you can stream on the app
[03:14] <bazhang> plustax, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[03:14] <usr13> MrUnagi: Why do you have files with weird characters?
[03:15] <MrUnagi> They're not mine....but the chars are michael bublè and such
[03:15] <bazhang> persona24, yet its built for an eol ubuntu 9.04 and not supported here. contact the Hulu forums I suppose
[03:15] <plustax> ahh im running 10.04
[03:15] <bazhang> plustax, theres no way to get gnome3 o n that
[03:15] <persona24> bazhang: Hmmm odd, it worked with my other machine running 11.04
[03:15] <plustax> bazhang, im running 10.04. Could you link me to what I SHOULD be running on this netbook? has 1g of ram
[03:16] <plustax> I would like a newer version on there
[03:16] <bazhang> plustax, 12.04 in a couple of weeks, you can in one step from 10.04 to 12.04
[03:16] <plustax> what command do I type in terminal to update to the newest version for now?
[03:16] <sacarlson> MrUnagi: I just ran a test with a dir ./this with the file tõêx.txt in it and the command rsync -avz ./this ./bar ;  and had no problem copying the directory
[03:16] <plustax> Ill upgrade to 12.04 later
[03:16] <MrUnagi> usr13: So it's just my terminal cant show Unicode
[03:16] <bazhang> plustax, it wont do it until it's released
[03:17] <plustax> bazhang, so there isnt a command to go from 10 to 11?
[03:17] <usr13> MrUnagi: I suppose so.  (I've never had such a problem.)
[03:17] <bazhang> plustax, you go to 10.10, but then the one-step upgrade option is lost
[03:18] <plustax> ahhh okay. Well I want to wipe this thing anyways to get the win partition off of here. Mind linking me to the newest netbook version available?
[03:18] <plustax> I tried finding it to no avail
[03:18] <bazhang> plustax, six month increments from 10.04 to 11.10 otherwise
[03:18] <bazhang> plustax, they're all netbook editions now
[03:18] <ox1de> my usb won't load... are you certain there isn't a way to fix the error without a usb or flash?
[03:18] <escott> plustax, netbook remix got folded into the main os
[03:18] <plustax> Like, can you link me to the 11.10 netbook edition?
[03:18] <ox1de> or cd i mean
[03:18] <drp> Does anyone know how support for 802.11n usb dongles is doing in 12.04?
[03:18] <plustax> ohhhhh
[03:18] <plustax> so if I DL 11.10 I can throw it on here with no issues then?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> drp: #ubuntu+1 please
[03:19] <bazhang> drp as k in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <drp> Are there manufacturers or chipsets which are known to work well?
[03:19] <bazhang> plustax, sure
[03:19] <plustax> bazhang, think itll work well? I only have a gig of ram.
[03:19] <escott> ox1de, without knowing what the cause of the error is i can't say. the quickest way to figure out the actual error is... to boot a cd/usb.
[03:19] <drp> Thanks guys/
[03:19] <bazhang> plustax, try the live cd or live usb would be my suggestion first though
[03:19] <plustax> okay ill make a live usb
[03:20] <ox1de> would you like me to post the full readout?
[03:20] <plustax> bazhang, last question. Should I just grab the 12.04 beta or should I wait
[03:20] <bazhang> ox1de, its not credible you burned the iso to usb that quickly
[03:20] <ox1de> well my usb flash doesnt seem to load
[03:20] <bazhang> ox1de, did you just drag and drop? or use unetbootin
[03:21] <escott> ox1de, it can't find the initrd or something.... usually for boot issues i just get a liveusb, its never seemed worth the time to try and figure out how to fix something that wont boot
[03:21] <bazhang> plustax, still beta, up to you
[03:22] <plustax> bazhang, is there any notable changes?
[03:22] <jamjam> is logging out w this fine? >> pkill -KILL -u $USER
[03:22] <bazhang> plustax, tons; /msg ubottu HUD and /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support
[03:22] <ox1de> "no init found. try passing hte init= bootarg. - busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu) built-in shell (ash) - initramfs[3.064173: host added: IDbus[00:1023] Guid[000ae4aaaa27c398]"
[03:22] <ox1de> thats the readout
[03:23] <bazhang> ox1de, how did the iso get on there; drap and drop or using the correct tools
[03:23] <escott> jamjam, its more than a little indiscriminant. better to gnome-session-quit or kill your session directly
[03:23] <ox1de> what do u mean?
[03:23] <escott> bazhang, i think thats his original error. i dont think he has burned a cd
[03:24] <bazhang> ox1de, iso ----> usb    how
[03:24] <bazhang> escott, he says his usb wont boot
[03:24] <plustax> bazhang, does the 12.04 beta 2 able to install with USB?
[03:25] <bazhang> plustax, sure. you could even dd it over. there are instructions for 11.10 on the ubuntu homepage that apply for 12.04 as well
[03:25] <wifioregon> So, my ipod is not showing up in my computer, itunes or dev ice manager Theres nothing wrong with the ipod itself, it works with other computers , the cord works, and my iphone shows up on this computer just fine. I tried all the stuff it says online and nothing is working at all!
[03:25] <plustax> dd?
[03:25] <wifioregon> I had virus that i got rid of manually and i think i must have screwed somehting up but i dont know what
[03:25] <escott> bazhang, my understanding is that ox1de 's installed (on the drive) system won't init. i suggested that he get a usb or cd to boot that and poke around, and that he doesn't know how to make a usb correctly (or perhaps his bios doesn't support it)
[03:25] <bazhang> wifioregon, sounds like a MAC OS X question
[03:26] <bazhang> escott, he's not answered, hard to say
[03:27] <bazhang> wifioregon, theres not an iTunes for ubuntu
[03:27] <escott> wifioregon, you left the walled apple garden. steve jobs ghost will haunt you. "For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod"
[03:28] <wifioregon> omg wront channel! so sorry
[03:28] <wifioregon> *wrong
[03:35] <crivera> using screen, does anyone know how to open a new window and run a command?  i'm trying to build a script that launches a bunch of screens and runs a specific command in each
[03:35] <plustax> does anyone think installing 12.04 on my 1g of ram netbook is a bad idea? :/
[03:35] <jamjam> @escott ic, thanks!
[03:37] <bet0x> how i i boot an kernel from the grub shell? on a 1.98 grub
[03:39] <Pinkamena_D> well i am back
[03:40] <Pinkamena_D> i used the older version and it does not crash but instead the speed starts good but then degrades rapidly until its not even going anymore
[03:42] <Pinkamena_D> or sometimes it works fine? this things all over the place
[03:46] <Pinkamena_D> nevermind
[03:46] <Pinkamena_D> i think the old version works better
[03:46] <Pinkamena_D> why is this
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Pinkamena_D: is the ram healthy?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> bet0x: do you mean an old kernel?
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> plustax: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi
[03:49] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> may I ask question about rar
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> jimmy_lo_chien_f: ask away
[03:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I want to extract only a file(or some files, not all), how to achieve this by rar
[03:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I always extract all files in a .rar file
[03:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> like "rar e file dir/
[03:51] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> rar e filename dir/
[03:51] <Stryker> hey, I have two disks, one with 2 ubuntus on it, and one with an ubuntu, a debian, and a windows xp installed on it. These used to work perfectly together, but I changed some stuff in the windows boot. windows works by itself, but is not recognized in grub, and doesn't show even when i do sudo update-grub. please help
[03:52] <no-name-> How do I disable the guest account in Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:52] <anonimous> use the gui
[03:52] <anonimous> administration -> users -> guest -> disbale
[03:52] <Pinkamena_D> maybe the ram is sick
[03:52] <anonimous> disable
[03:53] <no-name-> anonimous: cheers
[03:53] <anonimous> :)
[03:53] <no-name-> darn. it's not there :(
[03:53] <anonimous> let me check
[03:53] <anonimous> just a sec
[03:54] <anonimous> no-name- can you tell me the version of ubuntu?????
[03:54] <anonimous> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:55] <paulus68> hi all, I have this little script to get info from the squid access log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/925888/ now I want to be able to zip the file each day in the same way that Linux is archiving the logfiles for example( currentday if it's day +1 it gets a log.1 and then it's zipped how would I achieve this?
[03:55] <no-name-> anonimous: 10.04
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: does the number increment each day?
[03:56] <anonimous> ok no-name...just a sec
[03:57] <anonimous> no-name- can you do this -> vi /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[03:57] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I just see that it's log then log.1 then zipped like you have for example the mysql log in var/log/
[03:57] <anonimous> type i so you can get into INSERT mode
[03:58] <no-name-> anonimous, I don't have an /etc/lightdm
[03:58] <anonimous> hum...
[03:59] <no-name-> well... is the guest account at all a security risk? I've been told you should turn the Windows one off so I just figured I'd turn off my Ubuntu one too... but it doesn't really matter if it's not
[04:00] <anonimous> no-name Are you sure?
[04:00] <no-name-> sure about what?
[04:00] <anonimous> ls -la /etc | grep light*
[04:00] <anonimous> that the file doesn't exist under etc?
[04:00] <no-name-> nothing
[04:00] <anonimous> ok
[04:01] <anonimous> do you have root priv?
[04:01] <anonimous> I am reading this other threat and I noticed that users on 11.04 have been able to remove the guest account from that file
[04:02] <anonimous> take a look here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1939899
[04:02] <no-name-> hmm
[04:02] <no-name-> 11.04 was Unity though, right?
[04:02] <anonimous> that's a safe link
[04:02] <no-name-> maybe that doesn't matter
[04:02] <anonimous> please take a look
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> no-name-: not necessarily
[04:03] <no-name-> yeah. I don't have an /etc/lightdm
[04:03] <anonimous> that's ok
[04:03] <anonimous> what about the old trick in the book? sudo userdel guest
[04:04] <anonimous> ?!?
[04:04] <anonimous> cat /etc/passwd or cat /etc/shadow
[04:04] <no-name-> user 'guest' does not exist
[04:04] <anonimous> after you do that....the guest account should be gone
[04:04] <anonimous> damm it.
[04:04] <no-name-> so it's not really a "user" per se
[04:05] <no-name-> it's just some session thing, idk
[04:05] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: what should be the easiest take the current log file rename it to a log.1 and zip and then move the log.1 to a new folder and continue to do this for each day or is there an easier way to achieve this?
[04:05] <no-name-> it's probably nothing to worry about though
[04:06] <anonimous> It has saved me before...
[04:06] <anonimous> using the guest
[04:06] <savr> hi
[04:06] <savr> where do I enable two finger scrolling?
[04:06] <savr> I installed the driver
[04:07] <anonimous> but anyway...your solution might be disabling it like this...Ubuntu 11.04
[04:07] <anonimous> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/10/18/guest-session-and-guest-user-accounts-in-ubuntu/
[04:08] <sacarlson> why would sudo dhclient eth0 ; after complete it does give me an address but fails to modify /etc/resolv.conf with any changes?
[04:08] <anonimous> hello savr...
[04:08] <anonimous> you can create script and fix the problem...
[04:09] <Stryker> i have used os-prober, and update-grub, and neither find my windows xp install
[04:09] <anonimous> Dear savr please follow my instructions:
[04:09] <savr> anonimous, ok
[04:09] <anonimous> open a text editor
[04:09] <anonimous> type this exactly as I do:
[04:10] <anonimous> #!/bin/sh
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: does the current log file name change?
[04:10] <savr> you can paste bin it
[04:10] <anonimous> synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1
[04:10] <anonimous> synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[04:10] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: No remains the same
[04:10] <anonimous> synclient EmulateTwoFingerMinW=5
[04:10] <no-name-> restricted privileges (such as not being able to read any home directory or do any permanent change to the system). <--- mmm, I guess it's nothing to really worry about anyway... maybe I'll keep it
[04:10] <anonimous> synclient EmulateTwoFingerMinZ=48
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: then the scipt is simple :)
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> anonimous: could just make a pastebin...#
[04:11] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: you would make my day :)
[04:11] <anonimous> now...save the file as 2fsrl
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: ok what is the log file called?
[04:12] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: the logfiles name is user.log
[04:12] <anonimous> #!/bin/sh
[04:12] <anonimous> synclient VertTwoFingerScroll=1
[04:12] <anonimous> synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[04:12] <anonimous> synclient EmulateTwoFingerMinW=5
[04:12] <anonimous> synclient EmulateTwoFingerMinZ=48
[04:12] <FloodBot1> anonimous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <anonimous> sorry
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: I think I have what I need
[04:13] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/925888/ this is the code what I am using now to modify the squid.log
[04:13] <savr> thanks!!!!!
[04:13] <savr> its working
[04:13] <C-4> How to I reset sound system in Ubuntu without restart?
[04:13] <savr> do I need to do this at every boot anonimous?
[04:14] <anonimous> yes
[04:14] <anonimous> please make executable
[04:14] <anonimous> and test before adding to startup script
[04:14] <savr> its working
[04:15] <anonimous> good
[04:17] <savr> anonimous, what line should I adjust to make it faster?
[04:17] <anonimous> the scrolling?
[04:18] <savr> anonimous, yes
[04:18] <anonimous> huhm..
[04:19] <anonimous> you might need to play a little bit with the numbers...
[04:20] <savr> anonimous, hmmm just noticed the option in mouse and touchpad settings
[04:20] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: brb
[04:20] <savr> silly me
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: http://paste.ubuntu.com/925906/
[04:21] <anonimous> savr what happened?
[04:21] <savr> its working ;)
[04:21] <savr> thanks
[04:22] <anonimous> cheer moi drug
[04:24] <anonimous> i leave now...good luck everyone
[04:25] <ICehat> Hi
[04:25] <ICehat> Hello
[04:25] <savr> bazhang, what do you use for qq?
[04:28] <meadhikari> I have 4GB free diskspace and a 3GB file to compress, is there a way to delete the source as the file get compress
[04:29] <bazhang> savr, eva? apt-cache search qq for some options
[04:30] <gotmilk> what's the qq?
[04:30] <bazhang> gotmilk, popular protocol in Asia
[04:32] <gotmilk> from china?
[04:33] <savr> bazhang is chinese but pretends not to be because he was born abroad
[04:33] <gotmilk> ~.~
[04:34] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: thank you so much
[04:34] <gotmilk> i am a chinese .
[04:35] <savr> and you don't know what qq is?
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> savr: many users are born abroad, the world is a big place
[04:36] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I second that :)
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> savr: I've no idea what qq is
[04:37] <gotmilk> i pretend npt to know qq ,:)
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> !info qq
[04:39] <gotmilk> just want to realise how many foreigners know it
[04:39] <gotmilk> http
[04:40] <gotmilk> http://www.qq.com
[04:40] <savr> gotmilk, I talk to chinese people ;)
[04:41] <gotmilk> hi ,
[04:41] <paulus68> thats chinese for me "as in figure of speech"
[04:42] <savr> thanks bazhang
[04:42] <savr> bye
[04:43] <gotmilk> many famous website are reset by chinese gov. such as youtube,facebook ,voa
[04:45] <Guest42610> hi
[04:46] <Guest42610> any in ohio?
[04:46] <gotmilk> as a chinese ,if we wana to vist this website ,we always use vpn or proxy
[04:47] <Guest30419> hey guys quick question when i plug in my headphones to listen to music on youtube it comes out of my speakers and headphones..how do i make it only come out of my headphones?
[04:47] <paulus68> gotmilk: why is that? any particular reason? sorry for asking but I have a brotherinlaw who has the same problem he lives in near Hongkong
[04:47] <brianp1992> is there a command to show my prossesser specs?
[04:48] <Guest42610> i need help no programs i download start?
[04:48] <aeon-ltd> brianp1992: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:48] <brianp1992> thanks  bud
[04:49] <Guest30419> anyone know how to fix this??
[04:50] <aeon-ltd> Guest30419: explainn more to the channel
[04:51] <Guest30419> aeon when i listen to music on youtube and plug in my headphones it comes out of my headphones and speakers on my laptop, i wanted the output to be only in my headphones hence thats why i plugged em in lol
[04:51] <paulus68> gotmilk: can I talk to you in private?
[04:53] <Guest30419> come on really? nobody knows how to fix this?
[04:54] <sacarlson> Guest30419: might take a look at alsamixer
[04:54] <sacarlson> Guest30419: you might find a box to check to enable headphones and or disable speakers
[04:54] <Guest30419> im new to linux sorta so im gonna need a lil more help than that lol, ive heard of alsamixer, how do i get to it
[04:55] <sacarlson> Guest30419: sudo apt-get install alsamixer ;
[04:56] <Guest30419> says unable to locate package
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest30419: should be in a default install
[04:56] <Guest30419> okay so how do i open it
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Guest30419: run:   alsamixer
[04:57] <Guest30419> k i see abunch of picture bars lol
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest30419: use cursors to switch and modify levels, M to un/mute and ESC to exit
[04:58] <Guest30419> k i got it thank u
[04:58] <Guest30419> thanks action
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest30419: np man
[04:58] <Guest30419> now what exactly is alsamixer?
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest30419: its a CLI sound volume manager
[04:59] <sacarlson> Guest30419: there is also alsamixergui   sudo apt-get install alsamixergui ;   to open run alsamixergui
[04:59] <Guest30419> cli?
[04:59] <Guest30419> now i remember back when i tryed to skype on linux i had issues with my mic they could see me but couldent hear me, i looked it up and it said alsamixer..any settings i need to check? im seeying "mic in"
[05:00] <sacarlson> alsamixer is the control panel of your sound card
[05:00] <Guest30419> suprised the ubuntu sound settings dont have options like alsa
[05:01] <ANub_> i was wondering which browser is efficient on ubuntu in terms of performance and memory usage (Firefox or Google chrome)
[05:02] <ANub_> ive chkd chrome memory usage and found it to be more memory exhaustive
[05:02] <ANub_> i wonder if my observation is true
[05:03] <satyanash>       
[05:05] <joe12> hi
[05:05] <crackx> Ypart
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> ANub_: try arora or midori
[05:06] <Guest30419> whats pcm and front for on alsa
[05:07] <joe12> can i use my tv card for system sound too?
[05:07] <alusion> Hello I just updated my linux kernel to 3.0.0-17 because my chromium was very buggy and as was the OS but after updating I still cannot play videos on chromium
[05:07] <alusion> heres the pastebin of terminal http://pastebin.com/04humwBn
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> alusion: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[05:09] <ANub_> i was wondering which browser is efficient on ubuntu in terms of performance and memory usage (Firefox or Google chrome)
[05:09] <ANub_> ive chkd chrome memory usage and found it to be more memory exhaustive
[05:09] <alusion> http://pastebin.com/wk9R1wQz
[05:09] <ANub_> i wonder if my observation is true
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> alusion: you can suppress those warnings with: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> ANub_: unless you are hallucinating, i'd say you were right
[05:11] <ANub_> nice one....:)
[05:11] <scientes> how do i disable oneconf?
[05:11] <scientes> cause its eating my cpu and i dont even use it
[05:11] <scientes> and i am opposed to its very idea
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> alusion: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     then enable the partner repo and install the adobe-flashplugin  package
[05:12] <alusion> is there a way I can enable the repo and install the package from the terminal?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> scientes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860331
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> alusion: sure, uncomment the partner repo lines in /etc/apt/sources.list then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> scientes: do you use ubuntuone ?
[05:14] <scientes> ActionParsnip, i cant remove it cause software-center depends on it
[05:14] <scientes> ActionParsnip, and no, i dont use ubuntuone, and would like to also remove that
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> scientes: remove the ubuntuone packages and it should help
[05:14] <scientes> maybe it got my launchpad account somehow---how can i check ActionParsnip
[05:15] <CFHowlett> scientes   why remove?  Just leave it, disable it from autostarting ...
[05:15] <scientes> CFHowlett, well whatever i dont want it
[05:15] <joe12> is there any difference from the ubuntu on the site to the one dell gives on the OEM?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> joe12: possibly some post install configs
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> joe12: I'd contact Dell
[05:16] <CFHowlett> joe12   the dell disk creator allows you to make the dell OEM disk on your machine...
[05:16] <joe12> not that worried about it jw
[05:17] <joe12> didnt know if maybe they had better drivers or somethin in the dell one
[05:18] <joe12> prolly just added bloat lol
[05:24] <alusion> thank you AP I have it working now!
[05:25] <Blue1> i just got the nice note that my ubuntu 10.10 is not longer supported.  I thought I would have till the 12.04 lts was out.  nope.
[05:26] <CFHowlett> blue1  install LTS only and you get at least 3 years support on the desktop ...
[05:26] <bazhang> CFHowlett, its five for 12.04
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> CFHowlett: Precise is 5 years desktop :)
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: snips
[05:27] <Blue1> bazhang: downloading 12.04 beta now.
[05:27] <Blue1> i thought e-o-l would be when 12.04 final was released.
[05:30] <Artemis3> Blue1, to prevent this in the future, try to stay with the LTS until the next LTS, ie, 10.04 LTS is still supported.
[05:33] <plustax> might be a dumb question here. But I DLed the 12.04 .zip
[05:33] <plustax> where is the iso im supposed to write to my usb stick?
[05:33] <plustax> or how do I turn it into an iso?
[05:34] <Artemis3> what is inside this zip?
[05:35] <CFHowlett> plustax   .zip?  what the hey?  where did you get that?
[05:36] <Artemis3> yes im curious, i don't see any zips in the downloads...
[05:39] <plustax> umm
[05:39] <plustax> Im not sure, man
[05:39] <plustax> I just downloaded 12.04 from the main page and its a .zip
[05:39] <plustax> 700 mb or so
[05:39] <wylde> plustax, from what page? Share a link?
[05:40] <plustax> sure one moment
[05:40] <Artemis3> yes show us the link, maybe its the wubi thing?
[05:40] <plustax> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download
[05:40] <plustax> I got it from there
[05:41] <alusion> ase::PlatformThread::SetThreadPriority(base::PlatformThreadHandle, base::ThreadPriority)
[05:41] <alusion> [4024:4050:2818619423:ERROR:alsa_output.cc(684)] Failed querying delay: Input/output error
[05:41] <alusion> That's what I still get in chromium
[05:41] <Artemis3> plustax, i don't see any zips there
[05:41] <plustax> here
[05:41] <L3top_> There are no zips there
[05:41] <alusion> Whenever I try to play youtube videos
[05:41] <plustax> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download
[05:41] <plustax> err
[05:41] <plustax> wait
[05:41] <KarmaComa|2> it's an iso L3top_ not zip
[05:41] <plustax> http://releases.ubuntu.mirrors.uk2.net//precise/ubuntu-12.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso
[05:41] <KarmaComa|2> burn it on a CD
[05:41] <plustax> this
[05:42] <Artemis3> iso is iso
[05:42] <L3top_> That is what I said..
[05:42] <KarmaComa|2> plustax*
[05:42] <wylde> where did you get zip from?
[05:42] <Artemis3> thats no zip, it ends in iso
[05:42] <L3top_> perhaps hit the zsync and named it .zip?
[05:42] <plustax> well I just gave you the link that I personally downloaded but its icon is a zip icon
[05:42] <plustax> hmm
[05:42] <Artemis3> ah ignre that
[05:42] <L3top_> ok... that means it is an archive
[05:42] <Artemis3> ignore
[05:42] <L3top_> iso/zip/tar
[05:43] <plustax> okay
[05:43] <KarmaComa|2> yeah .iso maybe shown as zip icon with some zip programs
[05:43] <plustax> so I can just burn it?
[05:43] <KarmaComa|2> its normal but ignore this and just burn it on a cd
[05:43] <Artemis3> windows can associate anything to anything... if you have a program that opens zips & isos, for example.
[05:43] <CFHowlett> plustax  check the file properties - should ID as an iso type
[05:43] <plustax> KarmaComa|2, I have to do liveusb Im putting it on a netbook
[05:44] <plustax> CFHowlett, it does! Thank you I see now.
[05:44] <KM0201> plustax: it has to be burned as an image
[05:44] <KarmaComa|2> what os you are on now?
[05:44] <Artemis3> plustax, you can use Step 2 from here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[05:45]  * KM0201 agrees with Artemis3 
[05:45] <KM0201> i don't make bootable USB's in windows often, but when I have, that tool works flawleslly
[05:45] <KarmaComa|2> best thing is to follow Artemis3
[05:46] <L3top_> is it the HP tool?
[05:46] <L3top_> because I have nothing but success with that in win
[05:47] <Blue1> plustax: you realise that you can dd the iso image to a usb drive, right?
[05:47] <plustax> Blue1, what does that mean?
[05:48] <KM0201> Blue1: no need to confuse him... there's 50 tools to put a ISO on a usb... just follow the instructions on ubuntu's site
[05:48] <KM0201> plustax: frankly, just ignore that, follow the instructions on ubuntu's site
[05:48] <KM0201> plustax: they are there to help you with the easiest way to get the job done... use them.
[05:48] <plustax> ok
[05:49] <Blue1> KM0201: here's my recipe:  http://pkill-9.com/creating-a-usb-flash-drive-for-a-debian-install/
[05:49] <JacobVengeance> Anyone need help?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: funny how folks keep making them...
[05:49] <wylde> bahahaha >.< I borked my ltsp servers i386.img! (I shouldn't forget to move my customized squashfs-tools out of the way!)
[05:49] <KM0201> Blue1: i didn't say he "couldn't" use dd...  dd works fine, but... there's simple instructions on Ubuntu's site... if that doesn't work, then look at another tool
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> JacobVengeance: sure, I'm after making a server that runs like youtube but streams MY videos
[05:49] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: i don't get it?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> JacobVengeance: With thumbnails and all that jazzle
[05:50] <Artemis3> Blue1, its a windows user.
[05:50] <Blue1> ahh okay
[05:50] <cjs> I kinda like usb-creator-gtk myself.
[05:50] <Blue1> Artemis3: skip what I said then.
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: if there are so many, why do people make more when there is a tool that does the job
[05:50] <KM0201> cjs: he's a windows user.
[05:50] <cjs> Oops. :-)
[05:50] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: different strokes for different folks.... why are there 50 freaking web browsers available?
[05:50] <JacobVengeance> ActionParsnip, I don't know much about setting up servers. sorry.
[05:50] <plustax> yeah im making the usb stick from windows
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> JacobVengeance: np man, i've been searching a while. I think it'd be neat to have :)
[05:51] <mi3> hi!
[05:51] <KM0201> plustax: just download the tool ubuntu tells you to download, and use it.. it works perfectly
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> plustax: use unetbootin, its super easy
[05:51] <plustax> im not seeing that tool
[05:51] <plustax> okay
[05:51] <plustax> that one
[05:51] <JacobVengeance> ActionParsnip, why not just use Youtube? lol
[05:51] <KM0201> plustax: i think its called usb creator
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> JacobVengeance: it's my movies ripped etc, just thought it's be neat instead of streaming via samba etc.
[05:52] <JacobVengeance> Unetbootin is probably the easiest tool around besides classic image-usb-stick script.
[05:52] <Artemis3> Pen Drive Linux: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[05:52] <KM0201> plustax: this is the one ubuntu recommends...  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[05:52] <reith2004x> plustax, try this one, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez
[05:52] <KM0201> lol
[05:52] <Artemis3> unetbootin works too
[05:52] <plustax> :)
[05:52] <KM0201> yeah, it does
[05:53] <L3top_> I didn't know unetbootin was windowsy too
[05:53] <KM0201> Artemis3: but.. dd works to.. or usb-creator works, or, or, or.
[05:53] <KM0201> L3top_: i think it actually started as a windows app
[05:53] <JacobVengeance> unetbootin is on every platform it seems lol
[05:53] <cjs> Booting the Ubuntu 12.04 beta2 alternate install image on my Pentium M laptop, I get: "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU."
[05:54] <cjs> (This is the 32-bit image.)
[05:54] <cjs> "Ahm."
[05:54] <JacobVengeance> cjs precise help is in #Ubuntu+1
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> cjs: ask in #ubuntu+1 for prerelease support
[05:54] <KM0201> cjs: you've downloaded the 32bit ISO, and have more than 3.5gigs of ram apparently, and for some reason, it won't load the pae kernel
[05:54] <wylde> what happened to the ubottu anyway?
[05:55] <L3top_> old cpu prob
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: theres an option needed to make the kernel ignore something about the CPU
[05:55] <KM0201> wylde: he's with forrest gumps father, "on vacation"
[05:55] <JacobVengeance> KM0201, lol no. That processor doesn't support pae. Simple
[05:55] <Artemis3> KM0201, windows users rarely have a working dd installed, and last time i saw a "port", they were very quirky to use.
[05:55] <KM0201> ya
[05:55] <KM0201> i dunno, i never got a PAE error, ever
[05:55] <scientes> cjs, you can use debian, it supports older cpus
[05:56] <Artemis3> Xubuntu 12.04 also comes with a non PAE kernel iirc
[05:56] <KM0201> cjs: how old is this cpu?
[05:56] <JacobVengeance> Artemis3 beat me to Xubuntu lol
[05:56] <KM0201> xfce?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: age is fairly irrelevant, its the arch you need ;)
[05:56]  * KM0201 throws up in his mouth a little
[05:56] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: yeah, i just was curious as to th eprocessor that doesn't support a pae kernel
[05:56] <cjs> KM0201: About seven years, I guess? It's a 1.7 GHz Pentium M, so fairly peppy.
[05:56] <JacobVengeance> The only computer I have that can't run pae is an aold Dell D600.
[05:57] <KM0201> weird. my sister has an old 1ghz amd.. runs just fine
[05:57] <L3top_> the M is a nogo for PAE.
[05:57]  * L3top_ bets that little D600 is an M
[05:58] <JacobVengeance> My crappy desktop runs a Pentium 4 HT lol. Netbook runs an atom of course.
[05:58] <cjs> KM0201: And no, I have only 1 GB in the machine. The CPU either doesn't support PAE at all, or IBM disabled it.
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> my Core Duo U2500 has no issues :)
[05:58] <JacobVengeance> L3top_ I will look after its done syncing with repositories.
[05:58] <KM0201> cjs: probably the former
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> L3top_: thought M was mobile..?
[05:59] <Artemis3> I have the original eeepc, so its pentium M (will use xubuntu of course)
[06:00] <cjs> M is mobile, but the Pentium M is also, if I recall correctly, the basis of the Core series after the Pentium 4 architecture was abandoned.
[06:01]  * scientes has never had a computer >4GB that wasn't 64-bit capable
[06:01] <ubuntu64bit> does it mean we not using the von-neumann Architecture?
[06:01] <scientes> or seen...
[06:02] <scientes> ubuntu64bit, no modern computers use the von-neumann arch, they use the harvard architecture
[06:02] <scientes> which is a varient of the von neumann
[06:02] <scientes> and the nx bit makes it more like the von neumann
[06:03] <L3top_> M does stand for mobile... but there is a Pentium M and a Pentium 4 M, and they dropped Ms into all kinds of stuff, though its moniker indicates mobility.
[06:04] <ubuntu64bit> scientes: this is the first i heard of harvard architecture are you kidding me?
[06:04] <maslen> How do I turn off the system beep (like when I hit tab and it can't autocomplete)
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> maslen: try:  sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[06:04] <CFHowlett> maslen   preferences>sounds
[06:04] <goddard> is there a way to disable the ubuntu toolbar but keep the ubuntu button?
[06:05] <scientes> ubuntu64bit, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_architecture
[06:05] <goddard> i like how the ubuntu icon was in the toolbar in the last version of ubuntu .. can i get that back?
[06:05] <ubuntu64bit> thx i look
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> goddard: try a different icon theme
[06:05] <maslen> CFHowlett: Where is that menu? I'm using gnome-classic
[06:05] <L3top_> the pentium M (Yonah architecture) is basically a really strange pIII... actually runs faster than a lot of the 4s... but I expect this is why it wont do pae.
[06:06] <CFHowlett> maslen   System>Preferences ...
[06:06] <scientes> ubuntu64bit, oh, sorry i got them mixed up
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> P3 was solid#
[06:06] <goddard> ActionParsnip: you remember when the ubuntu icon was in the top toolbar? not the side toolbar?
[06:06] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, why are u removing module? thats not a good option
[06:06] <cjs> scientes: You've got that backwards: most modern CPUs use Von Neumann architecture. Harvard is separate instruction and data memories, which is rare (though at least one popular Hitachi microcontroller still uses that).
[06:07] <scientes> cjs, see above where i realized this
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: why, its the module for the pc speaker, nothing more, why is that bad?
[06:07] <scientes> cjs, the nx bit does provide some seperation however
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> goddard: you can tweak the desktop to look like gnome2 if you like?
[06:07] <cjs> scientes: Oh. I'm still catching up.
[06:07] <cjs> scientes: Not at all in the same sense.
[06:08] <ubuntu64bit> scientes: this looks more like something portable devices use?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> goddard: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[06:08] <goddard> ActionParsnip: im not talking about gnome 2 I like the screen saving of Unity.  Let me see if I can find a pic of what i mean
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: even if it causes issues (Which I garuntee it won't) you can reboot or even reload the module.
[06:09] <goddard> ActionParsnip: here look at this http://www.bablotech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ubuntu-11.04-dash.jpg
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: so where do you get 'not a good option' from?
[06:09] <ubuntu64bit> too simplistic for desktops
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> goddard: what bit a I looking at?
[06:09] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i want that ubuntu icon on the top left but disable the toolbar
[06:10] <KM0201> hmm
[06:10] <goddard> ActionParsnip: i like awn dock instead
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> goddard: ohhhhh the small ubuntu icon that sits on the panel rather than the launcher
[06:10] <goddard> ActionParsnip: ya
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> goddard: not sure dude, I know what you mean. I think they made it bigger so its more obvious for new users
[06:11] <maslen> CFHowlett: Without unity, that menu doesn't exist
[06:11] <goddard> ActionParsnip: its a bummer it was pretty slick
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> goddard: agreed
[06:11] <CFHowlett> maslen   sorry, I'm in 10.04.  thought that gnome classic presented same as mine.  Please ask the channel again.
[06:11] <maslen> How do I turn off the system beep (like when I hit tab and it can't autocomplete)
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> maslen: you can just run unity-panel in LXDE and the unity-launcher needs to be ran seperately :)
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> maslen: checked in sounds?
[06:12] <maslen> yes
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> maslen: I believe its in the volume menu, you can set the beep volume
[06:12] <Artemis3> also in alsamixer...
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> masen: its in the sound options in there
[06:12] <alusion> Is nevernote stable? And are there any alternative note taking applications similar to evernote?
[06:13] <goddard> alusion: i use tomboy
[06:13] <maslen> ActionParsnip: Where?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> alusion: try libreoffice, or gedit...
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> maslen: the volume icon, top right...
[06:13] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: Or they want to get more seniors connected to Ubuntu :p
[06:13] <Artemis3> i think there is gnote or something, identical to tomboy, using pure c and gtk...
[06:13] <goddard> alusion: tomboy sinks with ubuntu ones help and then use ubuntu 1 on android and them tomdroid
[06:13]  * L3top_ is very fond of gedit
[06:13]  * ActionParsnip likes leafpad
[06:14]  * L3top_ installs leafpad
[06:14] <alusion> I use tomboy but it doesn't work well with clipping articles / html
[06:14] <maslen> ActionParsnip: That 'sound preferences' brings me to the same menu
[06:14] <Kris2K> hi peeps...  i'm really new to linux and i have a presentation about linux shells and switches and i'm really having tough time finding resource on what switches are and how it works, if anyone can help me out please pm i'd really appreciate it
[06:14] <alusion> I will check out gedit and leafpad :3
[06:14] <scientes> leafpad blows
[06:15] <Artemis3> alusion, switch to gnote :)
[06:15] <KM0201> leafpad isn't that bad.
[06:15] <JacobVengeance> L3top_ Yeah it is a Pentium M
[06:15] <JacobVengeance> No clue why my modem just crashed.
[06:16] <L3top_> malsen sudo alsamixer    use left and right arrow keys to find "beep" or "system" whatever and press the letter 'm'
[06:16] <L3top_> pc speaker maybe
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> scientes: why, loads quick and does what it says on the tin
[06:16]  * L3top_ always assumes people have alsa-utils installed...
[06:17] <Artemis3> Kris2K, actually i have no idea what do you mean with swiches, unless you mean the smart ones used in racks; but what would that have to do with shells?
[06:17] <maslen> Artemis3: Perhaps he means like -l
[06:18] <Artemis3> ah, those switches :)
[06:18] <pankaj> ActionParsnip, http://tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/lkmpg.html go to the unregistering a device
[06:18] <gensu> Hey im testing this connection
[06:18] <CFHowlett> gensu   loud and clear ...
[06:18] <nil8> What's up @gensu
[06:19] <L3top_> I do like me some code color formatting ActionParsnip.
[06:19] <L3top_> I primarily use vim... but I am chatting in support.
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> pankaj: so why, when people wake up from suspend, to make the wireless work they have to unload then reload the driver module to make it work?
[06:21] <Artemis3> L3mce, sudo alsamixer is not a good idea...
[06:21] <Artemis3> L3top_
[06:22] <L3top_> I believe it is the only way to get to pc speaker
[06:22] <L3top_> but dont quote me
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> gotta jet, back in 10
[06:29] <jdavis> I am trying to fill out a PDF in evince. But it fails when I try to save the filled-out form because it's "encrypted".
[06:30] <L3top_> Artemis3: I am very wrong on sudo getting you to special pc speaker control in alsamixer. Was confused by ssh... too many terminals open. I don't know why I thought I had to sudo
[06:30] <CFHowlett> jdavis   save a copy and edit in gimp ...
[06:46] <Kris2K> anyone awake...lol
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> I was thinking similar
[06:47] <Kris2K> it was loud 10 mins ago, now just got super quiet
[06:47] <CFHowlett> Kris2K   all problems solved = no reason to talk
[06:48] <Kris2K> lol
[06:48] <Kris2K> funny
[06:48] <Kris2K> if this was a bar that would sux
[06:50] <Kris2K> guess it a good time to asked question
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Totally
[06:51] <Kris2K> new to linux and have a presentation about command (option) switch about how it works?
[06:51] <scientes> Kris2K, works like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6vYKJerstg
[06:51] <Kris2K> i'm been surfing the net for good amount of time but can't find any source... so i though i'd find some here
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Kris2K: so "how bash works"?
[06:52] <Kris2K> yes
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Kris2K: to what level, are we talking about how co
[06:53] <Kris2K> scientes:  thanks i'm checking it out
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Commands get given to the kernel and cpu, or just an over view?
[06:53] <jdavis> CFHowlett: not having much luck with gimp, it doesn't seem like I can insert text into the fields. I can only create new text objects, unless I'm missing something.
[06:53] <scientes> Kris2K, but seriously, you mean GNU getopts?
[06:53] <dogarrhea2>  rename -v 's/_repaired//' *.mp3    why isn't this stripping _repaired out of my file names?
[06:54] <Kris2K> overview is good....  i'm new to linux
[06:54] <CFHowlett> jdavis   precisely what I did last time I edited a pdf ...
[06:54] <scientes> Kris2K, getopts is the standard way to do command line switches, the --long, and -s one letters
[06:55] <spannerman> hey anyone wanna chat.
[06:56] <CFHowlett> !ot|spannerman
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Kris2K: remember to mention the $PATH variable and what it does. Mention variables too.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Can someone give ubottu a coffee
[06:57] <Kris2K> scientes:  thanks, but check it out .... how would i define if i say yum -y install xchat (-y is the switch for saying YES! install and without confirming?)
[06:58] <GirlyGirl> !ot | spannerman
[06:59] <GirlyGirl> !ot | spannerman
[06:59] <dogarrhea2> so.... what do people do to strip out a string from a bunch of files?
[06:59] <dogarrhea2> apparently rename is completely useless
[07:00] <GirlyGirl> nevermind bot failure
[07:00] <EvilResistance> laggy bot
[07:01] <scientes> Kris2K, this is the ubuntu channel, ubuntu doesn't use yum. well the order can matter with arguments
[07:01] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: [_]) there you go a cup of coffee for ubottu :p
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Hehe
[07:06] <recentlydeceased> why has maverick gone EOL and 12.04 isn't even released, surely in the past EOL has coincided with the release of the latest version?
[07:06] <CFHowlett> recentlydeceased   not true.  Release dates kind of jump around depending on what Mark wants
[07:06] <CFHowlett> e.g. 10.10.10
[07:07] <recentlydeceased> sure, I never said the dates were fixed, but there was always a x-over in the past
[07:07] <recentlydeceased> hell, I remember one being released quite late
[07:07] <recentlydeceased> I never had an 18month old release go EOL before the latest version was available to replace it
[07:08] <KM0201>  recentlydeceased sure you have.. you just didn't notice
[07:08] <recentlydeceased> I now have a dead in the water OS.
[07:08] <_ruben> the release going eol and the new to be released have no corrolation whatsoever
[07:08] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, care to offer evidence of this happening?
[07:08] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: surely you've known about this for... ever?
[07:09] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: exactly what _ruben said.. there's no corrolation between the two.
[07:09] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: its not dead in the water, you can upggrade to 11.04
[07:09] <recentlydeceased> I'm not angry, just surprised, this leaves users in a weird position
[07:09] <CFHowlett> recentlydeceased   dead in the water?  You DID know the release only had 18 months support, right?  Switch to LTS releases for extended support.
[07:09] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: 10.10 was not LTS...so i'm not sure why you'd be concerned that 10.10 expired before an LTS was released
[07:09] <recentlydeceased> upgrade to 11.04, for about 2 weeks, then upgrade again
[07:10] <KM0201> actually, he'd need to go 11.04, then 11.10, then 12.04..
[07:10] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, I've  never stuck with LTS releases in the past
[07:10] <recentlydeceased> they always sucked
[07:10] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, I never upgrade either
[07:10] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: i didn't suggest LTS
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> I'd just clean install the LTS
[07:10] <recentlydeceased> fresh install
[07:10] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: then what are you griping about?.. clean install 11.10 or 12.04
[07:10] <recentlydeceased> ActionParsnip, yeah, always best
[07:11] <KM0201> or is this all about the fact you don't want to use unity
[07:11] <CFHowlett> recentlydeceased   for the record 12.04 will be LTS
[07:11] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, I'm saying that it would make sense to have a x-over
[07:11] <recentlydeceased> CFHowlett, I know
[07:11] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: i don't see how the two relate
[07:11] <recentlydeceased> CFHowlett, hopefully better than the last
[07:11] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, because I want to install an OS once every 1.5-3 years
[07:11] <KM0201> you're talking about a version that is 18mo old, and has a hard release cycle, vs. a version that is scheduled to be released later this month.
[07:11] <recentlydeceased> not have an OS for a week, jsut till the latest release comes out
[07:12] <KM0201> i don't see why you think a non-lts should somehow "x-over" with an lts release date
[07:12] <KM0201> makes no sense
[07:12]  * recentlydeceased is talking to a brick wall
[07:12] <KM0201> recentlydeceased: because you're not making any sense
[07:12] <CFHowlett> *moving on ...*
[07:12] <recentlydeceased> no, you're just failing to comprehend the reasoning
[07:13] <KM0201> it's tough to comprehend the "incomprehensible"
[07:13] <recentlydeceased> where is the sense in me running an OS till the EOL, just as a new release is about to come out, but then being left with a 2 week window of no support, forcing me to install a TEMPORARY OS for 2 weeks
[07:13] <recentlydeceased> does this not compute?
[07:14] <KM0201> no, frankly it doesn't
[07:14] <recentlydeceased> I don't want 11.04, if I did, I would've installed it
[07:14] <KM0201> not everyone clean installs a new OS every 2-3yrs, or whatever you said you do.
[07:14] <recentlydeceased> insert facepalm here
[07:14] <recentlydeceased> 1.5/3
[07:14] <recentlydeceased> normal/LTS
[07:14] <KM0201> most folks either: stay lTS, or stay current...
[07:15] <elky> recentlydeceased, you're not talking to the release managers, nor canonical support. You're talking to volunteers who support what is given within the limitations available.
[07:15]  * CFHowlett has *moved on* ...
[07:15] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: You could just coast on 10.10 for a few weeks.  It's not going to stop working, just no more updates.  You can't upgrade directly from 10.10 to 12.04 anyway, so you'll need to do some intermediate updates or get prepared for a reinstall anyway.
[07:15] <recentlydeceased> 11.04 was when Unity was introduced, 11.10 was unity too, hopefully 12.04 is a better experience than the last 2
[07:15] <KM0201> why do you think 10.10 EOL release date, would have any correlation at all to 12.04's release date, i just don't get it.. makes no sense to me.
[07:16] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, I know, I just never had this happen before, there was always a x-over (or so I thought) in the past, since dapper
[07:16] <auronandace> recentlydeceased: you do realise dapper was delayed by 2 months
[07:16] <GirlyGirl> recentlydeceased: You can go for Kubuntu or Xubuntu if you dislike unity. I'm on KDE myself and you can easily customise it to resemble gnome 2. I believe the same goes for XFCE
[07:16] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, because I've been using this since Dapper, and never seen this before, that's why I ask, and if what you say is true, I only ask for evidence to corroborate
[07:17] <recentlydeceased> *since* dapper
[07:17] <recentlydeceased> GirlyGirl, yeah, I know, thanks though
[07:17] <recentlydeceased> I have tried and run all of those DE's
[07:18] <recentlydeceased> KDE is much better as of 4.6, but still a little bloated for my wants/needs
[07:18] <GirlyGirl> recentlydeceased: Trying it in the past does not count. Have you tried the latest versions recently on a new release?
[07:18] <recentlydeceased> GirlyGirl, ^^
[07:18] <recentlydeceased> It is *much* better yes
[07:19] <recentlydeceased> but I thing Gnome is verging on bloat... tempted by awesome or xmonad
[07:19] <KM0201> verging?
[07:19] <GirlyGirl> recentlydeceased: I'd suggest giving them a new try when 12.04 comes out. At least for me KDE 4.8.2 is more usable and faster than gnome 3 shell and unity
[07:19] <recentlydeceased> Unity is bloat too, but I hear 12.04 is supposed to be much better than previous iterations
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> GirlyGirl, I will ;)
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, yes, verging
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> Shell runs far better than Unity on 11.10
[07:20] <KM0201> hmm, i would consider it well more than "verging" on being bloated... it's driving the "bloated" bus
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> I know, I have that too on  various other machines
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> have you tried KDE
[07:20] <recentlydeceased> ?
[07:21] <KM0201> yes, but.. i'm not a fair judge, i've never liked KDE in 10yrs.. ever
[07:21] <recentlydeceased> well, by comparison it is slimline
[07:21] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: Releases have traditionally been the last thursday of the month, so there's some time for gaps.  7.04 EOLd a few weeks prior to 8.10, 7.10 EOLd a week before 9.04 was released, I'm not going to grep my emails any more :)
[07:21] <KM0201> but, but, that never happened!
[07:21] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, thank you, that is all I wanted to know ;)
[07:22] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, there was a popup last night in my updates, never seen it before... that's why I asked
[07:22] <KittyTeeth> If I cut and paste some text can I then put it into a pdf and put it in my pdf files?
[07:22] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: teh reason they're uncoupled (or more specifically, not related at all really) is because you can't hop from release N to release N+3.
[07:23] <GirlyGirl> KittyTeeth: Libreoffice can export to pdf
[07:23] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, maybe I should propose this in brainstorm... it makes sense to offer support for a couple of weeks just for those users who time their next install with releases
[07:23] <KittyTeeth> will try. thanks
[07:23] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: There is... there's 12 months of overlap.
[07:23] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, sure, but upgrades are for suckers anyhow! ;)
[07:24] <KM0201> i thought openoffice could print to PDF also?... i could have swore i done that w/ OO as well.
[07:24] <CFHowlett> KM0201   export to pdf IIRC
[07:24] <recentlydeceased> Never had an upgrade go smoothly, clean installs have been faster and less hassle
[07:24] <KM0201> hmm
[07:25] <CFHowlett> KM0201   confirmed - export as PDF
[07:25] <metaladdict> hi, i have the following command diff new.txt old.txt | grep '<'^> > hello.txt
[07:25] <metaladdict> but it isnt working proberly\
[07:25] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, I've run 2 several versions to EOL before, and then installed the latest release both times, maybe I'm a minority... staved of Unity for as long as possible on my main machine
[07:25] <KM0201> CFHowlett: ok, i thought it could ( i know i've done it lots of times w/ Libre, was pretty sure i done it with OO as well)
[07:25] <metaladdict> diff new.txt old.txt | grep '<'^>  hello.txt*
[07:25] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: I suggest you stick with LTS.
[07:26] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: Luckily, 12.04 is LTS.  But with LTS there's a whole year of overlap when the next one comes out (12.04 will have a few years, actually)
[07:26] <metaladdict> it should look up the diffrence between new.txt and old.txt and put them into hello.txt but only the diffrence
[07:27] <recentlydeceased> Flannel, but 8.04 sucked, as did 10.04 ;)
[07:27] <karthick87> Is it possible to findout ubuntu installation date ?
[07:27] <recentlydeceased> 7.10 was awesome, 8.10 was awesome, 10.10 was awesome too
[07:27] <KM0201> i thought 8.04 and 8.10 were crap.
[07:27] <recentlydeceased> anyhow, thanks folks, gtg to work
[07:27] <goddard> when looking in the ubuntu manager what is the "Source Code" check box for?
[07:28] <KM0201> 9.04 was the next version i used
[07:28] <Flannel> recentlydeceased: Well, you're just going to be stuck with some upgrade gaps then.
[07:28] <recentlydeceased> KM0201, 8.04 was, sure ;)
[07:28] <recentlydeceased> Flannel,  yeah, not the end of the world, just EOL!
[07:28] <triscuit> you'll miss precious security updates
[07:28] <recentlydeceased> oh noes
[07:28] <triscuit> you gonna get hacked
[07:29] <metaladdict> Could anyone help me witht the following: diff new.txt old.txt | grep '<'^> hello.txt , it should find the diffrence between new.txt and old.txt and put it into hello.txt BUT it isnt doing anything to hello.txt
[07:30] <wylde> metaladdict, you'd probably have better luck asking in #bash
[07:30] <metaladdict> okay, wil do
[07:32] <goddard> when looking in the ubuntu manager what is the "Source Code" check box for?
[07:32] <lancesrage> can someone tell me why i cant update my ubuntu?
[07:32] <goddard> lancesrage: not without more info
[07:32] <CFHowlett> lancesrage   version #??
[07:33] <jrib> goddard: in software manager you mean?
[07:33] <goddard> jrib: ya
[07:33] <jrib> goddard: that gives you access to the source code for the packages in ubuntu's non-restricted repositories
[07:33] <jrib> !source | goddard
[07:33] <fidel> lancesrage: error-output?
[07:33] <lancesrage> i had to wipe my computer today i have 9.04 installed and go to the update manager and click update trying to get back to old version i was on and it said it was not found
[07:34] <CFHowlett> !eol|lancesrage
[07:34] <goddard> jrib: thats the same version as getting it from the developers website?
[07:34] <fidel> lancesrage: 9.04? why arent you updating to some "at least somehow" current version? just curious
[07:34] <CFHowlett> lancesrage   9.04 is end of life - for quite some time now.
[07:34] <fidel> its like using win98 those days ;)
[07:35] <goddard> Arch never goes EOL just a heads up
[07:35] <jrib> goddard: it gets you the source for the package, which includes the original software untainted from upstream plus the packaging information (which may include ubuntu/debian-specific patches to the software)
[07:35] <goddard> jrib: i see
[07:36] <lancesrage> fidel im trying but im not so good at ubuntu
[07:38] <fidel> lancesrage: where is the problem updating the os? need help?
[07:38] <fidel> you should consider jumping to 11.10 - 12.04 will come out in this month as well
[07:38] <lancesrage> ubottu so the only way to upgrade is with another disk from a later version?
[07:38] <CFHowlett> lancesrage   download 10.04 or 11.10.  Both allow for direct update to 12.04 in a few weeks or stay with 10.04 as it has another year of support.
[07:39] <fidel> lancesrage: ubottu is a bot
[07:39] <lancesrage> sad
[07:39] <Rurd2di> go to 11.10
[07:39] <lancesrage> he gave a good answer too
[07:39] <Rurd2di> good as
[07:39] <Gubbachops> sorry im new where are the chat room?
[07:39] <fidel> Gubbachops: this is some kind of chat room
[07:39] <Rurd2di> whats up Gubbachops?
[07:39] <KM0201> Gubbachops: general chage is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <sw> !ot | Gubbachops
[07:39] <fidel> Gubbachops: limited to the ubuntu topic
[07:40] <Gubbachops> ok thanks folks
[07:40] <lancesrage> fidel so is the only way to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 with a disk that has 9.10 on it?
[07:40] <GirlyGirl_> lancesrage: or via internet
[07:40] <CFHowlett> lancesrage   9.10 is also end of life ...
[07:41] <lancesrage> i know im trying to get back to 10.04
[07:41] <GirlyGirl_> lancesrage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:41] <lancesrage> i had to wipe and reinstall today only disk i have is a 9.04
[07:41] <GirlyGirl_> !tab | lancesrage
[07:42] <KM0201> lancesrage: well that was kinda useless
[07:42] <Rurd2di> GirlyGirl_: hahaha, yeah poor n00bs
[07:43] <scientes> lancesrage, just install fresh 12.04
[07:43] <scientes> and keep your /home
[07:43] <MaximB> Hello, I got an audio problem, no audio at all ...what re the conf files for audio in Ubuntu ?
[07:43] <sw> !audo | MaximB
[07:44] <sw> !audio | MaximB
[07:44] <lancesrage> scientes i dont have a cd burner :(
[07:44] <Rurd2di> lancesrage: got a usb stick?
[07:44] <Rurd2di>  u can create a bootable usb stick
[07:44] <Rurd2di> and install of that
[07:44] <lancesrage> Rurd2di: my computer gave me hell last time i tried that too
[07:44] <Rurd2di> pretty easy, i dont install of disc anymore
[07:45] <lancesrage> got an error said no bootable file found on usb
[07:45] <Rurd2di> what did you use to make the bootable usb?
[07:45] <lancesrage> i dont remember it was a while back
[07:45] <MaximB> sw thanks but it doesn't show me the conf files
[07:45] <lancesrage> something i found on the forums
[07:45] <Rurd2di> hmm
[07:46] <Rurd2di> i have never had a issues installing of usb
[07:46] <Rurd2di> its normal for me to do so now days
[07:46] <rAg3-nix> lancesrage: reformat your usb to FAT32 , and load the image using unetbootin , unetbootin never failed for me
[07:46] <scientes> usb works great
[07:46] <lancesrage> rAg3-nix: ill try
[07:46] <GirlyGirl_> lancesrage: sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/device/node bs=1M  ... using this method should work
[07:46] <scientes> rAg3-nix, unetbootin works with any linux filesystems
[07:46] <MaximB> the sound worked with alsa (only some apps) but after I've installed pulseaudio it stopped working at all
[07:47] <lancesrage> if it fails i can always come back
[07:47] <woozly> guys, when I try to Login into xubuntu, it drops me to tty (console), then drop back to logon screen with as first time.
[07:47] <woozly> why?
[07:47] <rAg3-nix> scientes: yes it does , but will it boot as well ?
[07:47] <GirlyGirl_> lancesrage: "sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/device/node bs=1M" always works and produces the fastest live image as fat is slower
[07:47] <nhorning> hello everyone.  I used usbmodeswitch to get my GSM modem working (it does) but afterword my USB drives stopped recognizing volumes.  I don't even see them in disk utility. But dmesg shows that the usb drive is present.  Wat do?
[07:47] <jrib> woozly: check ~/.xsession-errors
[07:48] <scientes> rAg3-nix, yes it will, however, you cant install to the partition you installed it to
[07:48] <rAg3-nix> scientes: i never tried with anything other than fat32 , once i did with ext2 and it refused to boot :( !!
[07:48] <rAg3-nix> scientes: oh ohk
[07:49] <GirlyGirl_> woozly: Sounds like xfce configuration problems ? Did you do any setting or package changes recently? Also #xubuntu may be better
[07:49] <woozly> okay, thanks Ill check
[07:50] <asus_> xfce has a bug on sounds card
[07:51] <asus_> also one on the terminal
[07:52] <lancesrage> well ill bbl if this does not work out
[07:52] <lancesrage> ty all who helped
[07:52] <nlici> Goodmorning to Europe and Goodnight for Usa
[07:52] <nlici> short question how can i download turkish language pack to ubuntu 11.10
[07:53] <asus_> nlici,i have the same question
[07:53] <GirlyGirl> nlici: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[07:54] <nhorning> Any help with my inability to use usb drives?
[07:55] <derebel> ubuntu detects and mounts some dvds but not others, i have the basic dvd libraries installed but i'm not sure what the issue is since it wont even mount
[07:57] <MaximB> o does anyone know of ubuntu sound conf files ?
[07:59] <GirlyGirl> derebel: What is the error message if you mount from terminal
[07:59] <subdesign> hi
[08:00] <CFHowlett> subdesign   greetings
[08:00] <sacarlson> derebel: my guess is it's just bad media or bad dvd reader since some are working
[08:01] <parenta> halo
[08:01] <derebel> GirlyGirl, for some discs i cant find a device in /dev to mount, for others i have dvd or dvd5 and attempt to mount to a directory in /media just hangs
[08:01] <parenta> ada yang bisa ubuntu ga
[08:01] <GirlyGirl> derebel: Possibly bad media or reader
[08:01] <derebel> sacarlson, disc is readable in multiple readers and this same reader in another system (debian 6) mounts fine
[08:01] <parenta> hellow
[08:02] <parenta> hello
[08:02] <derebel> GirlyGirl, mounts fine in same reader in debian 6, reads great in dvd player
[08:02] <derebel> it's an external hp dvd/cd burner if it matters
[08:02] <innociv> What is the command to view a files permissions?
[08:03] <nhorning> GirlyGirl: Hi,  I think I broke my USB drives with usbmode switch.  They work with devices, but they don't see volumes.  Do you think you can point me in the right direction?
[08:03] <sacarlson> innociv: ls -l
[08:04] <parenta> any body home
[08:04] <sacarlson> !ask | parenta
[08:05] <parenta> how to make user and group in one line ?
[08:05] <parenta> how to make user and group in one line ?
[08:05] <parenta> how to make user and group in one line ?
[08:05] <FloodBot1> parenta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <parenta> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <nlici> th x forhelp
[08:06] <parenta> how to make user and group in one line ?
[08:06] <ilt> hello
[08:07] <sacarlson> parenta: http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/3293-create-new-user-account-ubuntu-linux-command-line.html
[08:07] <Mohith> what is this software
[08:07] <Timvde> I will be getting back my laptop from repair today. I think it's kinda stupid to install 11.10 now and reinstall in two weeks (I prefer fresh installs). If I install 12.04, will it just upgrade to the stable version and keep me there, or will I be stuck on development releases?
[08:07] <Jordan_U> !final | Timvde
[08:08] <Timvde> Jordan_U: Ty
[08:08] <Mohith> !!!!!!!111
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Timvde: You're welcome.
[08:09] <nhorning> Hello, Jordan_U.  Do you think you can help with my USB?
[08:09] <parenta> not that sacarlson
[08:09] <Mohith> hello
[08:09] <ilt> is it possible to install and run ubuntu on an external hard drive on a laptop that doesn't have any internal hard drive?
[08:09] <Mohith> yes
[08:10] <parenta> sacarlson : this output in one line
[08:10] <Mohith> just use universal usb installer
[08:10] <parenta> sacarlson : not that sacarlson
[08:11] <sacarlson> parenta:   this looks like one line to me:  useradd sweta ;
[08:11] <amn> what is last version of ubuntu ??
[08:11] <ilt> ok...but it's asking me "To create it, I will be using: mac / windows / ubuntu"....but i dont have any os at the moment. so what do i pick?
[08:12] <benjick> Hi. Do I have to upgrade to precise to get the latest version of PHP?
[08:12] <amn> what is last version of ubuntu ?
[08:12] <benjick> precise
[08:13] <Jordan_U> ilt: You need to have some OS to put Ubuntu's installer on a CD/USB drive to start with.
[08:14] <derebel> ok so i'm still not able to mount some dvds but now when i attempt to mount /dev/dvd i get mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[08:14] <ilt> ah okay, now i see that universal usb installer is a program
[08:14] <ilt> thanks
[08:15] <Shape> Can anyone please recommend me a rigorous book to learn Linux commands and Linux in general?
[08:15] <almoxarife> is there a terminal command that will provide the complete command line of a process running? 'top' does not, gnome-system-monitor does (yes it's a graphics app) but without a way to capture the command line
[08:15] <benjick> almoxarife: htop?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> ilt: You're welcome. Note that Universal USB Installer will only install Ubuntu's *installer* to the USB. I recommend using a CD, or another USB drive, for Ubuntu's installer then installing to the main external drive as you would to an internal drive.
[08:15] <parenta> sacarlson : xample output is f:x:1001:1001:f,0,1,2,3:/home/f:/bin/bash
[08:15] <parenta>     f:x:1001:      <--user and group in 1 line
[08:15] <parenta>     f:x:1001:      <--user and group in 1 line
[08:15] <parenta>     f:x:1001:      <--user and group in 1 line
[08:15] <FloodBot1> parenta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <almoxarife> benjick: didn't try that
[08:16] <Jordan_U> parenta: Please stop repeating yourself.
[08:16] <benjick> almoxarife: Might be in there, not sure :)
[08:16] <benjick> Do I have to upgrade to precise to get the latest version of PHP?
[08:16] <ferret_> almoxarife: try tr '\0' ' ' </proc/$pid/cmdline
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[08:17] <ilt> cant i install the installer on the external hdd and then install ubuntu on the same hard drive, Jordan_U?
[08:17] <karthick87> Is it possible to findout ubuntu installation date ?
[08:17] <ferret_> almoxarife: unless you're going to reuse it to run the command, in which case it'd be better to put it in an arry
[08:17] <amn> shape : linux all in one  for dummies
[08:17] <Jordan_U> ilt: It's possible, but it's very difficult to do.
[08:18] <ilt> hm...i dont have a big enough usb drive... :/
[08:18] <parenta> how command to make user and group in one line
[08:18] <parenta> how to make command user and group in one line
[08:19] <Shape> amn: I've read many dummies books in general and I find them going astray too much and overexplaining and not rigorous. What about this: Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming, A (2nd Edition) Sobell
[08:19] <Jordan_U> parenta: Please stop repeating yourself. This is your last warning.
[08:19] <parenta> why?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> parenta: It's annoying, disrespectful, and clutters the channel.
[08:20] <parenta> how about my  ask/
[08:20] <benjick> parenta: Just ask once, wait for an answer, if not, ask again later
[08:20] <benjick> Your question is not complete as well
[08:22] <sacarlson> parenta: look at man adduser ;  see --group  option
[08:22] <comgen> parenta : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto  ?
[08:22] <benjick> I found this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5 How do I use that as a source?
[08:23] <comgen> parenta : or : sudo adduser <username> <groupname>
[08:24] <parenta> ok
[08:25] <Kartagis> comgen, parenta: group name is NOT mandatory, <> says it is
[08:26] <comgen> Kartagis : ? I think he wants to create user with alt group  sudo adduser comgen group-other-than-comgen
[08:27] <comgen> I might be wrong the org question was muddy
[08:27] <sacarlson> comgen: I think what kartagis is saying that the standard man format is like   sudo adduser <username> [groupname]   where [] are used to denote as optional and <> is manditory
[08:28] <Kartagis> if you want to add user to a group, use gpasswd -a <user> <group>
[08:28] <Kartagis> sacarlson: you're right
[08:28] <comgen> LOL got it
[08:30] <parenta> how to make command Such as [08:30] <parenta>     f:x:1001:      <--user and group in 1 line
[08:30] <parenta> i can't to make it
[08:31] <JohnnyricoMC> Hey, anyone with preseeding-experience around?
[08:31] <sacarlson> benjick: it apears that php5 is already released all the way down for to lucid 10.04
[08:32] <meet> i have got a 10 yr old pc with winxp. was planning to install ubuntu 10.10 (as i experienced it to be less resource consuming.) but should i go with lubuntu ?
[08:32] <almoxarife> benjick: your suggestion for 'htop' was useful, thanks, lots of info that comes in handy, but if there is a way to capture text from the terminal window i can't find it.
[08:33] <comgen> meet : I run Lubuntu on most machines & several servers - good spin regardless of resources
[08:33] <meet> is it lighter than ubuntu 10.10 as they claim?
[08:33] <benjick> sacarlson: But there are so old versions
[08:34] <comgen> meet : yes is the short answer
[08:34] <JohnnyricoMC> My problem is: whenever my preseed-install reaches the tasksel-step, it fails: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, ubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <sacarlson> benjick: yes you can install php4 also if you want old ones also
[08:34] <JohnnyricoMC> And I get a screen saying the failing step is "Select and install software"
[08:34] <benjick> sacarlson: Well, i want the newest, of course
[08:35] <meet> thanks comgen
[08:35] <sacarlson> benjick: some software will only run in old, it's all a mater of what you want to run
[08:35] <JohnnyricoMC> anyone have any ideas? What my own googling returned as suspect is partitioning, but I need the preseed file to automatically partition the disk (just use whole disk, wipe anything else on there)
[08:35] <Yaron-Heb> Guys, any idea how do I switch VLC's UI Language? (I tried LANG=he_IL.UTF-8, didn't work)
[08:35] <comgen> meet : * join us on IRC irc.freenode.net #lubuntu, #lxde
[08:36] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: you want to setup auto install?
[08:36] <benjick> sacarlson: I got redirected to https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa which was what I was looking for
[08:37] <benjick> So I'm going to use that
[08:38] <JohnnyricoMC> pretty much sacarlson, I'm trying to do a completely unattended install that wipes and uses the whole present harddisk, but it fails when reaching the tasksel-step
[08:38] <sacarlson> benjick: ya that might be newer                              php   5.4.0-1build1~ppa1~precise
[08:38] <JohnnyricoMC> trying to deploy 10.04
[08:39] <amn> amn
[08:39] <JohnnyricoMC> I'll make a paste of the preseed
[08:39] <Stormx2> Hey. Using gnome classic DE (hate all this netbook-orientated stuff). Compiz sometimes fails to start with lightdm. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't I have to open a terminal and do "compiz --replace &", if i can get keyboard focus. Any dieas?
[08:40] <JohnnyricoMC> http://pastie.org/3772976 this is the preseed, I've been replacing tabs with spaces as I was suspecting those
[08:41] <Stormx2> Issue 2: as of 11.10 my proprietary nvidia drivers completely mess up when running minecraft after a certain (seemingly random) interval. Whole DE slows down to a halt in a matter of seconds, with everything frozen after that. If I'm quick enough I can Ctrl+Alt+F1 and kill minecraft. Sometimes it just immediately blackscreens, forcing me to do a hard reboot.
[08:42] <iceroot> i have reinstalled my systemed and keeped the old encrypted home, /home is mounted automaticly but its not useable (still encrypted) what task is needed to auto-unencrypt /home? when i enter my credentials on lxdm home is not unencrypted
[08:42] <Stormx2> (card is an 8800GTX, works fine in 11.04 and prior)
[08:46] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: seems I saw some other people  having problems with preeseed,  I thought I saw another method other than preseed that debian used
[08:47] <JohnnyricoMC> sacarlson, ubuntu is indeed supposed to support kickstart, but I tried that and couldn't get ubuntu to obey the kickstart-file
[08:48] <JohnnyricoMC> whereas with preseeding, it's a lot more obedient
[08:48] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: oh ya it was kickstart that's mest up not preseed
[08:49] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: and I saw a method to create the preseed file with the alternate ubuntu iso installer
[08:51] <Yaron-Heb> Guys, can you please help me switching VLC's UI language?
[08:53] <JohnnyricoMC> [10:49:23] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: and I saw a method to create the preseed file with the alternate ubuntu iso installer
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> Hmmmm, I'll look into that
[08:54] <JohnnyricoMC> currently using an ubuntu server iso
[08:54] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: that's the same ubuntu sever iso I think that the same as the alternate
[08:56] <JohnnyricoMC> Well, nothing ventured, nothing gained. It's worth the try
[09:00] <abhinavmehta> I've ubuntu 10.10 machine, with python 2.6.5 installed. I want to update it to 2.7+ how to do that without building manually.
[09:01] <abhinavmehta> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade not working.
[09:01] <abhinavmehta> I mean, I've used them, but they were futile for my issue.
[09:02] <abhinavmehta> anyone here..about python..?
[09:02] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: did you look in synaptic for your linux kernel of choice?  you can install it from there.  if you don't see what you want in the list check the ppa
[09:03] <abhinavmehta> hmm...
[09:03] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: opps not kernel but python  can also be found in ppa
[09:04] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: I found your typo-mistake earlier…and got what you saying.
[09:06] <Shape> Hello, I am looking to learn Linux and I can't decide whether to go with Fedora or Ubuntu (or something else). Can anyone provide me with some information about the difference between the two? I've looked on several websites but I still don't understand what the difference is.
[09:06] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: its not in synaptic…couldn't found any ppa related to python
[09:07] <abhinavmehta> Shape: whats your primary use-cases..?
[09:07] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: https://launchpad.net/~python-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[09:08] <Shape> abhinavmehta: just to learn Linux in detal. I don't do any programming or anything like that.
[09:08] <codemaniac> hello i have a lame question
[09:08] <codemaniac> Sending email from GMail with my alias address
[09:08] <abhinavmehta> ohh…sorry again, I just forgot that there is something like launchpad for ubunters …..
[09:08] <codemaniac> any help is appreciated
[09:09] <abhinavmehta> Shape: than Ubuntu 11.10 or Fedora 16 both are good for you..
[09:09] <lucky105> hi
[09:10] <codemaniac> how can i senf from an alias address in gmail
[09:10] <abhinavmehta> Shape: you can use either of them coz if you learn any one of them, you will learn other too very easily
[09:10] <Shape> abhinavmehta I have heard fedora is harder to learn and not that user friendly is that correct?
[09:10] <sw> !ot | codemaniac
[09:10] <codemaniac> i have grepped out the whole web without any sucess
[09:10] <codemaniac> ubottu: thanks for the enlightment
[09:11] <abhinavmehta> Shape: not really, its just installing stuff using rpm is little complex….but once you get it…its very smooth.
[09:11] <abhinavmehta> Shape: and soon when you become amateur you will like to build/install things manually or from source…with more firm control on every pkg/app you have.
[09:13] <Shape> abhinavmehta Do you recommend any literature? Is this book good? Practical Guide to Linux Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming, A (2nd Edition) ?
[09:13] <sw> Shape: the only literature you need is '$ man'
[09:13] <lucky105> i bought netbook and installed 12.04. im not getting correct resolution of 1024x600
[09:13] <sw> !resolution | lucky105
[09:14] <abhinavmehta> Shape: I've never read that book, so no-idea….but I would agree with sw, and I'll recommend learn linux by-doing, rather reading...
[09:14] <abhinavmehta> Shape: take a topic, google it…check linux-forums/blogs and thats it.
[09:15] <lucky105> thanx i m trying it..
[09:16] <abhinavmehta> Shape: and once you ready something at somewhere…rmbr to practically execute it once…don't mug them.
[09:16] <Shape> abhinavmehta Thanks! I actually used Ubuntu 8.10 long time ago. But I found things a little weird, when it came to copy/pasting commands rather than actually understanding what I was doing
[09:17] <abhinavmehta> Shape: if you some doubt, come to its and ask here….this channel is very acive and members are really very helpful…don't copy-paste…try to understand concepts…everything is very intuitive
[09:18] <abhinavmehta> *its=irc
[09:19] <JermBob> hey there people
[09:19] <Shape> Alright! Thanks a lot!
[09:19] <JermBob> just wondering how can i get a list of hard disks and partitions on my pc ?
[09:19] <JermBob> terminal
[09:19] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: where are you putting you preseed.cfg file and how are you passing the file to the installer?
[09:20] <JermBob> is there a disk partitioning utility ?
[09:21] <JermBob> is there a way to findout all the things i can mount ?
[09:21] <sacarlson> JermBob: yes disk utility
[09:21] <JermBob> sacarlson: terminal ?
[09:21] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: why I'll need pressed.cfg here..I've just added those deb-src links to sources.list, and will update it.
[09:21] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: Am I'm doing something wrong.?
[09:21] <sacarlson> JermBob: no it's a gui
[09:22] <JermBob> sacarlson: i am going to need a terminal disk utility to use sorry
[09:23] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: oh no I got you confused with someone else
[09:23] <lucky105> ubottu : xrandr not working ...it says " Failed to get size of gamma for current output.
[09:23] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: thats ok..
[09:23] <meet> where can i find the .deb of softwares installed through software center
[09:24] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC:  where are you putting you preseed.cfg file and how are you passing the file to the installer?
[09:24] <JermBob> sacarlson: do you know a terminal disk utility app ?
[09:24] <sacarlson> JermBob: to mount a disk?   man mount
[09:25] <orangeblume> Hello
[09:25] <CFHowlett> orangeblume   greetings
[09:25] <orangeblume> yes well greetings
[09:25] <sacarlson> JermBob: and I guess man fdisk
[09:25] <orangeblume> But my name is orangblume
[09:26] <JohnnyricoMC> [11:24:07] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC:  where are you putting you preseed.cfg file and how are you passing the file to the installer?
[09:26] <JohnnyricoMC> I'm using Cobbler for that
[09:26] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: cobbler?  never heard of it
[09:26] <JohnnyricoMC> it's a deployment-tool that allows for easy management of various installation profiles etc
[09:27] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: oh pxe
[09:27] <JohnnyricoMC> yep
[09:27] <JohnnyricoMC> it heavily uses pxe
[09:27] <JohnnyricoMC> the preseed is stored in /var/lib/cobbler/kickstarts/autobuntu.seed
[09:27] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC:  I just run pxe from one of my servers
[09:28] <JohnnyricoMC> uhu
[09:28] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: ok and how do you tell it where that files is at boot?
[09:28] <JohnnyricoMC> Cobbler passes the kickstart to it
[09:28] <JohnnyricoMC> from an url
[09:29] <JohnnyricoMC> ah right, now I remember
[09:29] <JohnnyricoMC> it gives it through http
[09:29] <orangeblume> hello i have got a question here!!
[09:30] <orangeblume> hello i have got a question here!!
[09:30] <JohnnyricoMC> so basically cobbler gives the location as a boot parameter
[09:30] <paulus68> !patience|orangeblume
[09:31] <gotmilk> hi
[09:31] <JohnnyricoMC> the location being http://10.0.0.100/cblr/svc/op/ks/profile/ubuntu-server-1104-i386
[09:31] <orangeblume> noOOOOOOOO
[09:31] <ax562> hello
[09:31] <gotmilk> n
[09:31] <JohnnyricoMC> that returns the preseed in plain-text
[09:31] <gotmilk> hi
[09:31] <orangeblume> my name is orangblume not orangeblume
[09:31] <gotmilk> k
[09:31] <ax562> you like orange trees?
[09:32] <JohnnyricoMC> Just spit out the question orangeblume and when someone's around who knows the answer, they'll help you
[09:32] <paulus68> !patience|orangeblume
[09:32] <ax562> anyone using netbeans?
[09:32] <orangeblume> okay
[09:32] <orangeblume> but my name is ORANGBLUME
[09:32] <JohnnyricoMC> nope, it ain't
[09:32] <JohnnyricoMC> [11:32:47] <orangeblume> but my name is ORANGBLUME
[09:33] <enchilado> JohnnyricoMC: URL is an initialism, pronounced as letters - U R L. Because the letter U is said with a Y sound, use the article 'a' rather than 'an'
[09:33] <enchilado> just saying
[09:33] <enchilado> orangeblume: no, your name is orangeblume
[09:33] <mathewjoy> can anybody help me with wine?!
[09:34] <orangeblume> oh nooo
[09:34] <orangeblume> not orangEblume
[09:34] <orangeblume> without the "e"
[09:34] <orangeblume> orangblume
[09:34] <enchilado> ...
[09:34] <mathewjoy> i mean i just started using ubuntu in the morning.....
[09:34] <kri51> Hi there
[09:34] <enchilado> looks like orangeblume to me, maybe you want to do /nick orangblume
[09:35] <kri51> I am trying to package a binary library, but i can´t find how to do this, all i found is to package from source
[09:35] <orangeblume> i do not know with this f*** ubuntu channel did not saved it but i will try again
[09:35] <kri51> Any hints?
[09:35] <orangeblume> so
[09:35] <CFHowlett> orangblume   *ask your ubuntu question*
[09:35] <paulus68> !language|orangeblume
[09:39] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: ok thanks I'm reading the cobbler docs to see if I should install it or just make the needed changes in my pxe server to try it
[09:41] <JohnnyricoMC> I just made a centOS-VM for cobbler
[09:41] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: in my pxe boot it just comes up like a live cd and it's all manual to install, so I'm going to try this preseed method to install to a virtualbox presents
[09:42] <JohnnyricoMC> then configured DNSmasq to only give out dhcp-leases to virtual machines (specific MAC-prefix)
[09:42] <JohnnyricoMC> and whenever I boot a VM into PXE, I get a blue selection menu to pick which installation profile I want
[09:42] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: I've already use dhcp3 and will make the needed changes there
[09:43] <JohnnyricoMC> seems to get a bit further with alternate installer, but still fails. Is there some way to see verbose output in the installer?
[09:43] <robertzaccour> How do I record audio and video directly from my webcam?
[09:43] <ax562> anyone using blender?
[09:44] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: yes there is another added option at boot install for text but I thought that was the default in the alternate installer
[09:45] <sacarlson> robertzaccour: look into vlc for that
[09:45] <murlidhar> hello all. how can i install java in order to play games online ?
[09:45] <JohnnyricoMC> Well, I'll check tomorrow since I have to catch a bus, thanks a lot for the help sacarlson
[09:46] <sacarlson> JohnnyricoMC: I don't think I provided any help yet, but your welcome any way
[09:46] <iceroot> iface eth0 inet dhcp   <- what is handling eth0 here? network-manager (nm-applet) is saying, device is not managed. is dhclient handling it directly? what is the correct way so that network-manager is handling it
[09:46] <JohnnyricoMC> hell, trying is helping
[09:47] <sacarlson> iceroot: if you want network manager to control it comment that line out
[09:48] <iceroot> sacarlson: so just auto eth0?
[09:48] <robertzaccour> sacarlson, what? vlc records from webcam?
[09:48] <quiescens> iceroot: no, nothing at all
[09:48] <sacarlson> iceroot: no I don't even think that should be there but without the iface line I guess it won't mater
[09:48] <ax562> anyone using blender?
[09:48] <iceroot> quiescens: sacarlson thank you
[09:49] <Mars___> what is blender?
[09:50] <CFHowlett> !blender|Mars___
[09:56] <paulus68> sacarlson: question concerning the preseed file buildup how do you address it while using vmware? do you have an Idea?
[09:57] <rocket16> Hello guys, I have a linux-mint related question. Is it the right place to ask? Or else, can anyone please point me to the right channel? :)
[09:58] <OerHeks> !mint | rocket16
[09:58] <osirisx111>  am on studio 12.04  and using gnome classic... i can't right click and go to panel properties anymore.. and i think i am missing my tray icons to things like pidgin and truecrypt
[09:58] <matt_> need help? anyone willing noob in despair lol...
[09:59] <robertzaccour> How do I record audio and video directly from my webcam with ffmpeg?
[09:59] <rocket16> Ok, thanks OerHeks . :)
[09:59] <OerHeks> better join #Ubuntu+1 for precise pangolin, untill release, osirisx111
[09:59] <matt_> helloooo out there?...
[09:59] <OerHeks> robertzaccour, cheese can do that.
[10:00] <robertzaccour> OerHeks, but cheese makes it all broken and sluggish
[10:01] <i7c> Hey guys. I have xfce installed. works fine but everytime when i start my computer i google chrome asks again and again if it's supposed to be standard browser. and if i click a link outside the browser (irc client) it also asks everytime. where can i set it that it never asks anymore?
[10:02] <OerHeks> robertzaccour, you can try manually >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#FFmpeg
[10:02] <CFHowlett> !ask | matt_
[10:02] <Steevca> Is it possible to download and install ubuntu for android?
[10:02] <popey> not yet Steevca
[10:02] <Steevca> popey, is there a date when it will be possible?
[10:03] <popey> Steevca: not yet
[10:03] <Steevca> Ok,thanks.
[10:03] <Ben64> android is an operating system, ubuntu is an operating system, it's impossible
[10:03] <OerHeks> i7c known issue, go into preferences, and set it default in the menu again, that would solve it.
[10:03] <CFHowlett> Steevca   ben64  http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[10:03] <i7c> OerHeks: thanks.
[10:03] <Steevca> Yeah i have read it,that is whay i am asking,there is no date. :P
[10:04] <Ben64> then it wouldn't be android
[10:04] <Ben64> or it'd just be a skin on top of android, which would make it not ubuntu
[10:04] <robertzaccour> I'm trying to use ffmpeg but the commands I'm using aren't working. Anyone here good with ffmpeg?
[10:04] <robertzaccour> what used to work months ago no longer does
[10:08] <sam-c> whoami
[10:08] <sam-c> hi friends
[10:08] <robertzaccour> I'm really lost here. What used to work for ffmpeg no longer does. Would someone be able to post a command to record the screen audio capturing form my usb webcam? please?
[10:09] <robertzaccour> *from
[10:09] <sam-c> how to go to ubuntu 12.10??
[10:09] <OerHeks> robertzaccour, show us your command, maybe we can help you with that?
[10:09] <Ben64> sam-c: 12.10 isn't released for another ~6 months
[10:09] <CFHowlett> sam-c   wait until it's releases - in October
[10:10] <sam-c> as developer
[10:10] <GirlyGirl> sam-c: Do you mean 12.04?
[10:10] <CFHowlett> sam-c   ask at #ubuntu-devel
[10:10] <sam-c> 12.10 this is already 12.04
[10:10] <robertzaccour> ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -r 30 -s 1366x768 -f x11grab -i :0.0 -vcodec msmpeg4v2 -qscale 2 recording.avi
[10:11] <Ben64> 12.10 alpha won't be out for probably 2 months
[10:11] <GirlyGirl> sam-c: Its repos aren't even open yet
[10:11] <sam-c> next may?
[10:11] <GirlyGirl> sam-c: In short its non existant, its like saying how to go to Windows 10
[10:11] <arand> sam-c: What do you mean by "go to"?
[10:12] <robertzaccour> OerHeks, ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -r 30 -s 1366x768 -f x11grab -i :0.0 -vcodec msmpeg4v2 -qscale 2 screencast.avi
[10:12] <sam-c> do not like windoes
[10:13] <sam-c> strange day here it is like friday
[10:14] <Mars___> strange day ? what means?
[10:14] <sam-c> hey bezeqint
[10:14] <MaximB> please help me :
[10:14] <MaximB> maximb@MaximB-HQ:~/Games/trine$ ./trine-bin64
[10:14] <MaximB> ALSA lib conf.c:2700:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
[10:14] <MaximB> ALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[10:14] <FloodBot1> MaximB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <sam-c> sunday greek orthodox easter
[10:15] <sam-c> sunday pesach over
[10:15] <MaximB> I get no sound with pulseaudio
[10:16] <fishcooker> im on PP
[10:16] <fishcooker> ou ic
[10:16] <fishcooker> i will join #ubuntu+1
[10:16] <SieB> hey
[10:17] <SieB> im having problems with my cryptdevice....
[10:17] <SieB> it says no key available ..... this passphrase...
[10:17] <SieB> cryptsetup luksDump shows http://pastie.org/3773281
[10:20] <SieB> any help?
[10:22] <robertzaccour> back
[10:31] <robertzaccour> Is there anyone that might possibly be able to help me with ffmpeg?
[10:31] <Mars___> what is ffmpeg ?
[10:32] <robertzaccour> Mars___, Its what I used to record screencasts before but what used to work no longer does, the command I used I mean
[10:32] <popey> robertzaccour: tried kazam?
[10:32] <robertzaccour> popey, does it work in Gnome 3?
[10:33] <popey> robertzaccour: do you mean gnome shell?
[10:33] <robertzaccour> popey, yeah most people know it as 3
[10:34] <popey> robertzaccour: yeah, incorrectly ☺
[10:34] <popey> robertzaccour: i don't know, I don't use shell
[10:34] <popey> robertzaccour: try it and see, the developer hangs out in #kazam, nice chap too ☺
[10:38] <eutheria> how can i few a .chm file?
[10:38] <karthick87> Is it possible to findout ubuntu installation date ?
[10:41] <arand> karthick87: /var/log/installer/syslog would likely provide a hint..
[10:42] <Bndrr> hello all
[10:43] <saganbyte> Hi
[10:44] <Mars___> hello
[10:44] <Psytonic> I'm trying to install Valgrind, but getting the following error when apt-get'in it >>> valgrind: Depends: libc6-dbg but it is not going to be installed
[10:45] <ax562> anyone know how to compile without errors in netbeans, c++?
[10:45] <Psytonic> so I tried it on lbc6-dbg and i got >>> libc6-dbg: Depends: libc6 (= 2.11.1-0ubuntu7) but 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8 is to be installed
[10:46] <Psytonic> any ideas whay?
[10:46] <Psytonic> why***
[10:46] <sw> Psytonic: '$ sudo apt-get -f install'
[10:46] <Psytonic> does nothing
[10:46] <Psytonic> thats what all the websites say to do :S
[10:48] <fishcooker> how to get remote desktop like windows os
[10:48] <fishcooker> i wanto remote session
[10:48] <sw> !vnc | fishcooker
[10:49] <fishcooker> have u tried nomachine.com sw
[10:49] <Psytonic> <3 freenx
[10:49] <sw> fishcooker: no
[10:49] <Psytonic> theres also a windows rdp implementation in linux, but i forget what its called
[10:50] <sw> Psytonic: there's no need to keep evaluating everything compared to Windows - it's not as if it's a standard for anything ;-)
[10:51] <Psytonic> sw: he was asking about windows
[10:51] <Psytonic> ...sorta
[10:52] <Psytonic> maybe I should just find my memory management bugs instead of installing toos to do it for me...
[10:52] <ax562> anyone know how to compile without errors in netbeans, c++?
[10:52] <Psytonic> ax562: fix the errors? :P
[10:53] <Psytonic> ax562: whatya mean?
[10:53] <sw> ax562: can you paste bin the errors?
[10:53] <hamacii> hello, i've tried using hamachi on linux with http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/hamachi but every time i try to enter a command i get "This is an online operation and you are not logged in"
[10:55] <ax562> yeah but what website should i use
[10:55] <ax562> noon
[10:55] <ax562> noob
[10:55] <OerHeks> hamacii, well, open an account & login first ?
[10:56] <hamacii> OerHeks: you don't need an account to use hamachi
[10:56] <OerHeks> hamacii, yes you do, with logmein
[10:57] <hamacii> OerHeks: no i've started hamachi on my windows computer and i didn't have to create an account
[10:57] <hamacii> OerHeks: sudo hamachi login -> Logging in ..... failed
[10:58] <hamacii> OerHeks: maybe the problem is that i'm behind the workplace firewall or something?
[10:58] <Psytonic> logging in usually requires a username and password somewhere
[10:58] <Psytonic> otherwise they usually call it something else
[10:58] <sw> yes, or there's no point in the logging in part ...
[10:59] <Psytonic> like...connect
[10:59] <sw> hamacii: can you '$ man hamachi' and scroll down to the login part and read it, please? :-)
[10:59] <hamacii> sw: http://i.imgur.com/e9J5a.png
[11:00] <hamacii> there's nothing about logging in there: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/hamachi you just start hamachi and connect to the network the other person created
[11:00] <hamacii> with the correct password
[11:01] <hamacii> with sudo hamachi join NETWORK PASSWORD
[11:01] <mauror> Is Ubuntu 12.04 already frozen?
[11:01] <sw> !12.01 | mauror
[11:01] <sw> !12.04 | mauror
[11:01] <sw> sorry! I'm making up versions now ...
[11:01] <mauror> I have found a little bug in the intaller  of beta2
[11:03] <sw> mauror: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:03] <Psytonic> hamacii: then you probably have to specify something when you try to login, like the network name and password?
[11:03] <Psytonic> or tever
[11:04] <hamacii> Psytonic: not according to: http://i.imgur.com/e9J5a.png
[11:04] <Psytonic> no idea
[11:04] <hamacii> Psytonic: there's something weird though, just like in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1170700, i don't have a ipv4 ip for the ham0 interface when doing ifconfig
[11:04] <opalepatrick> what repo would have packages like libgtk2.0-dev? I am running a standard 11.10 with some old packages that I need to update. Thanks
[11:05] <sw> !info libgt2.0-dev
[11:05] <sw> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[11:07] <Draconicus> Heyo. Emerald window manager has stopped working after the removal of overlay-scroolbars. Any ideas?
[11:07] <ax562> http://pastie.org/3773498
[11:07] <opalepatrick> thanks sw, I am compiling gimp 2.8rc1 and need to update  a few packages. Any idea what would be the sensible way?
[11:08] <Draconicus> Seems I somehow lost libemeraldengine...
[11:08] <opalepatrick> oh component main
[11:08] <OerHeks> !emerald
[11:08] <ax562> anyone know how to compile without errors in netbeans, c++?
[11:08] <Draconicus> Pfft. You guys are butts. :P
[11:08] <eutheria> ax562, yeah you write better code
[11:09] <Draconicus> Fixed it myself. For anyone who cares to help in the future, removing overlay-scrollbars tends to remove libemeraldengine0 for some reason.
[11:09] <Draconicus> The end.
[11:09] <Psytonic> ax562: thats a make file problem
[11:09] <Psytonic> try another channel
[11:14] <Bndrr> hi duddes
[11:17] <Bndrr> how can I speed up my terminal ?
[11:17] <DMJC> trying to setup some simple routing, got A-B-C-internet
[11:17] <jasonmsp> anyone know a good GUI editor for a .db file?
[11:17] <DMJC> need to pass traffic from A through B to the internet
[11:17] <Bndrr> DMJC, what ?
[11:18] <ikonia> jasonmsp: thats a database file, depends what type of database
[11:18] <jasonmsp> its a contacts database from evolution's addressbook
[11:19] <jasonmsp> I want to see if I can pull data in manually
[11:19] <ikonia> jasonmsp: I think (not sure that's sqlite)
[11:19] <ikonia> jasonmsp: you need to find out what type of database it is first, before progressing anything else
[11:20] <DMJC> I got DNS lookups working correctly from A-B-internet
[11:20] <DMJC> but I can't ping hosts from A
[11:20] <DMJC> I can ping stuff on my internal network, but not internet hosts.
[11:21] <ikonia> DMJC: sounds like your gateway is not forwarding packets
[11:22] <DMJC> ikonia? it is
[11:22] <ikonia> DMJC: how do you know ?
[11:22] <jasonmsp> ikonia: from a forum:  "addressbook.db" is a BerkeleyDb database that stores information (including VCard records) for Evolution:
[11:22] <ikonia> jasonmsp: Hmmm there are quite a few berkley DB editors, look up some offerings from sleepycat
[11:22] <DMJC> I can ping the host from outside the gateway to the machine inside it
[11:23] <ikonia> DMJC: that doesn't mean it's forwarding
[11:23] <DMJC> and I can ping from inside the gateway to the outside host
[11:23] <DMJC> ok,
[11:23] <ikonia> DMJC: so what can't you ping ?
[11:23] <DMJC> from inside my gateway to the internet
[11:23] <DMJC> I can dig google.com but can't ping it
[11:23] <ikonia> DMJC: you just said you could do that
[11:23] <ikonia> 2:23 < DMJC> and I can ping from inside the gateway to the outside host
[11:23] <ikonia> outside host = internet
[11:24] <DMJC> nono
[11:24] <DMJC> sorry let me explain, I have PC1 - 1Fileserver2 - Internet
[11:24] <DMJC> the numbers are network interfaces.
[11:24] <ikonia> DMJC: on the same host ?
[11:25] <DMJC> 1fileserver2 has two interfaces on the same host
[11:25] <ikonia> DMJC: oh, I see what you mean
[11:25] <DMJC> the fileserver is on my lan which is net connected
[11:25] <mzcl-mn> hello everybody!
[11:25] <ikonia> DMJC: yes, I see what you are saying
[11:25] <ikonia> DMJC: so what's not working ?
[11:26] <mzcl-mn> and beforehand sorry if I may seem intrusive..
[11:26] <KooolaNL> guys
[11:26] <DMJC> PC can't ping the net, can ping hosts inside/outside the gateway
[11:26] <DMJC> but not the internet
[11:26] <KooolaNL> where did freenx go ?
[11:26] <DMJC> but I can do lookups
[11:26] <ikonia> DMJC: outside the gateway ?
[11:26] <KooolaNL> E: Couldn't find package freenx
[11:26] <ikonia> DMJC: what are you talking about, anything outside the gateway is the internet
[11:26] <KooolaNL> is wat i get when i apt-get
[11:26] <Bndrr> i need performance my ubuntu? what app can i install ?
[11:26] <ikonia> DMJC: what device is your PC using as the gateway
[11:27] <mzcl-mn> well, does anyone know how to install gallium on amd rv620?
[11:28] <Bndrr> I need nice tools for ubuntu . pls ??
[11:29] <jpds> !best | Bndrr
[11:29] <DMJC> I hope that explained it better
[11:29] <KooolaNL> guys
[11:29] <ikonia> DMJC: what ?
[11:29] <KooolaNL> i want to install freenx
[11:29] <fishcooker> what apps should be installed by novice user?
[11:29] <KooolaNL> but the package cant be found
[11:29] <fishcooker> kooolanl
[11:29] <KooolaNL> any ideas ?
[11:29] <fishcooker> try nomachine.com
[11:30] <KooolaNL> im using terminal
[11:30] <Bndrr> oky doky jpds
[11:30] <mzcl-mn> can anyone help me to install the gallium driver?
[11:30] <KooolaNL> step 5
[11:30] <KooolaNL> sudo apt-get install freenx
[11:30] <ax562> thanks...gnight.
[11:30] <KooolaNL> i do that
[11:30] <zvacet> fishcooker: depende
[11:30] <DMJC> ikonia: I private messaged you
[11:30] <KooolaNL> package not found
[11:30] <ikonia> DMJC: sorry I didn't read it,
[11:30] <zvacet> *depends
[11:30] <ikonia> DMJC: what device is your PC using as a gateway ?
[11:30] <mzcl-mn> :)
[11:31] <fishcooker> desktop apps should be installed on novice user ubuntu
[11:32] <Bndrr> løl
[11:32] <zvacet> fishcooker: I prefer clean desktop so it is user choice
[11:32] <mzcl-mn> do you guys know how to install gallium drivers?
[11:33] <Bndrr> zvacet, but what type of apps u have ?
[11:35] <zvacet> mzcl-mn: is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451727 of any help?
[11:35] <DMJC> pastebin.com/z5hbZEJt
[11:35] <DMJC> explains it better
[11:36] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: I'll try out thanks!!
[11:36] <zvacet> Bndrr:  torrent client web browesr,terminal,and few others are in my unity launcher
[11:36] <DMJC> laptop can ping PC and PC can ping laptop but PC can't ping internet
[11:36] <ikonia> DMJC: right, so your gateway machine is not routing / forwarding packets
[11:36] <DMJC> PC can resolve DNS tho
[11:36] <ikonia> DMJC: the laptop/PC can talk to each other as they are on the same network
[11:37] <DMJC> yes
[11:37] <fishcooker> zvacet : suppose that im windows user migration new
[11:37] <zvacet> mzcl-mn: np
[11:37] <ikonia> DMJC: right, so the laptop/pc pinging each other has no relevence
[11:37] <DMJC> ok
[11:37] <ikonia> DMJC: the bottom line is the device you are using as a gateway machine is not forwarding packets to the router, OR the router is not forwarding packets for anything not directly connected to it
[11:38] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: I know
[11:38] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: you're right
[11:38] <zvacet> fishcooker:  If you want to play games then linux is not best option other stuff you can do like you did it in Windows do you have some special app in mind
[11:38] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: it is not my chip
[11:39] <DMJC> ikonia, should I setup route paths from my modem's external interface?
[11:39] <ikonia> DMJC: ??? sorry you're not making any sense
[11:39] <DMJC> I haven't studied routing in ages, what should the gateway be configured to do?
[11:40] <ikonia> DMJC: the machine you are using as a gateway has to forward packaets via routing to the public internet, which means it has to forward packets to the router
[11:40] <DMJC> I've enabled IPv4 forwarding
[11:40] <JensenDan> and now crash.. brb
[11:40] <ikonia> DMJC: that's not routing
[11:40] <DMJC> ok
[11:40] <zvacet> mzcl-mn: all I can find googling fast look at http://www.googlubuntu.com/ type what are you looking for and hope for the best
[11:40] <ikonia> DMJC: your laptops are on a private IP address range if you forward that IP range onto the public internet it will vanish
[11:41] <ikonia> !cs | DMJC
[11:41] <ikonia> oops
[11:41] <ikonia> sorry
[11:41] <ikonia> !ics | DMJC
[11:41] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:41] <v4lue[error]> been pwned lately???....
[11:41] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: i currently am on a system that has that gallium 0.4 amd rv620 driver but i wanted to use the same one on the system that i want to use from now on
[11:41]  * v4lue[error] lulz
[11:42] <tobis> I'm looking for someone whith knowledge on sed. I want to delete 2 lines from the word I match
[11:42] <tobis> ( I only know for 1 with /d )
[11:43] <zvacet> mzcl-mn: like Isaid I tried to help but you will have to wait for amdswer from another person because I don't know answer sorry
[11:43] <Aprogas> tobis: I'm not sure what you mean.
[11:43] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: don't worry i'm glad you've tried
[11:44] <zvacet> mzcl-mn:  :(
[11:44] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: thanks for all your help
[11:44] <zvacet> mzcl-mn: yw
[11:45] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: sorry don't know what you mean by yw...
[11:45] <zvacet> mzcl-mn:  you are wellcome
[11:45] <Elderman> Hello all, I reinstalled, keeping my home partition and now get the following error when I try to log in:
[11:45] <Elderman> unable to launch "gnome-2d" X session --- "gnome-2d" not  found; falling back to default session.
[11:45] <DMJC> sweet
[11:46] <DMJC> thanks man
[11:46] <Aprogas> tobis: You might use awk instead of sed.
[11:46] <DMJC> it's working perfectly
[11:46] <ikonia> DMJC: excellent
[11:46] <Bndrr> zvacet, whats re the few others ??
[11:46] <mzcl-mn> zvacet: ok! thanks again
[11:46] <Elderman> Does anyone have any advice on getting X to start-up?
[11:47] <subthalamus> when installing grub on btrfs from liveusb, what should the mount state be of target partitions/subvols?
[11:47] <sorana> hi all
[11:47] <zvacet> Bndrr: home folder,skype and I really don't remember if there is any other (I'm not at ubuntu right now)
[11:47] <sorana> hi
[11:48] <mzcl-mn> Elderman: just try out to login to a console (CTRL+F1) and as a super user try the command startx
[11:48] <tobis> Aprogas found, using +1d. Thank you anyway
[11:48] <Elderman> will do mzcl-mn
[11:48] <GirlyGirl> Long ago back like with Dapper, I used to use "CTRL + ALT + Backspace" to restart X server? Is there a replacement for this now?
[11:48] <ikonia> !nozap
[11:49] <Bndrr> zvacet, ok ok I was waiting for others,lol
[11:49] <ikonia> GirlyGirl: there is a factoid for it, hang on
[11:49] <knytmare> hi guys
[11:49] <knytmare> need some help
[11:49] <GirlyGirl> !question
[11:49] <ikonia> !dontzap | GirlyGirl
[11:49] <zvacet> Bndrr: just what I use frequently
[11:50] <t0b4> help
[11:50] <GirlyGirl> thanks
[11:50] <knytmare> Help: i cant install flashplayer, i have tried apturl and downloading the package istelf and manually install it but still having some errors
[11:50] <fidel> t0b4: start with a problem description then - just asking for help usualy doenst help ;)
[11:51] <ikonia> knytmare: just install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[11:51] <t0b4> :p
[11:51] <Elderman> restarting, mzcl-mn, (currently running on my live usb) will be back to report on my success
[11:52] <mzcl-mn> oh
[11:52] <knytmare> ikonia what is the command?
[11:52] <ikonia> knytmare: open the package manager, search for flashplugin-nonfree, install it
[11:54] <subthalamus> GirlyGirl: Alt-SysRq-R followed by Ctrl-Alt-F1 or Alt-SysRq-K
[11:55] <knytmare> ikonia: just open my synaptic, and its already checked as install but it is not working
[11:55] <ikonia> knytmare: expand upon "nothing is working"
[11:55] <subthalamus> when installing grub on btrfs from liveusb, what should the mount state be of target partitions/subvols?
[11:56] <Yaaaaaa> I have a phone with a micro sd card in it, this phone is usb to my ubuntu box but no disk showes up in fdisk etc. Bus 002 Device 007: ID 1004:618e LG Electronics, Inc. Ally/Optimus One/Vortex (debug mode) shows up in lsusb how do I access the sd card on the phone ?
[11:56] <ikonia> subthalamus: you'll need the /boot partition to be mounted as well as the / partition
[11:56] <Yaaaaaa> its an android phone and is rooted if that helps.
[11:56] <subthalamus> ikonia: they are one and the same
[11:58] <subthalamus> ikonia: the installer routine is saying it is failing to access it
[11:58] <ikonia> subthalamus: ok, so you only need that one partition mounted
[11:58] <philipp_1> someone know how to get this annoying scrollbars permanent again?
[11:58] <ikonia> subthalamus: does the installer support /boot on btrfs ?
[11:59] <subthalamus> ikonia: yea, it even has a line u change
[11:59] <yaboo> installed ubuntu 11.10 desktop and hooked it up to my 32" lcd, it seems the screen is larger than the lcd, and the trashcan is off the screen
[11:59] <yaboo> how can I make the desktop fit on the screen
[12:00] <ikonia> subthalamus: so can you explain what you mean by not seeing it
[12:00] <ikonia> subthalamus: or failing to access it
[12:02] <subthalamus> ikonia: well, the error is cryptic so I'm not sure
[12:02] <subthalamus> could be either
[12:02] <philipp_1> you know what i mean? when i try to scroll i have to go to the right border of the window... than a scrollbar apears outsite... when i wanna use it it vanishes =(
[12:02] <ikonia> subthalamus: is the installer creating btrfs or have you created it manually before running the installer ?
[12:02] <ikonia> LjL: ping
[12:02] <knytmare> ikonia: image link https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--pfVVOFULRc/T4bD1LHLtyI/AAAAAAAAAEw/r3I09GEZzj4/s640/no%2520plugin.png
[12:02] <subthalamus> ikonia: I'm gonna try to run the install manually from another terminal/session
[12:03] <subthalamus> ikonia: installler creating it
[12:03] <ikonia> knytmare: what version of ubuntu is that ?
[12:03] <subthalamus> ikonia: technically, it already exists and I'm telling the install not to format it
[12:03] <ikonia> subthalamus: curious to what happens if you let the installer create it at install time
[12:04] <knytmare> ikonia 10.04
[12:05] <subthalamus> ikonia: my data gets overwritten, heh
[12:05] <ikonia> knytmare: loooks like it didn't install, remove/purge the package and re-install it, pay attention for any errors, make sure your browser is closed when removing/re-installing
[12:05] <ikonia> subthalamus: well, that part I know, I meant in terms of the installer being able to use it
[12:06] <knytmare> ikonia, i've done all possible things still wondering why, got stucked here, and completely clueless on what i should do,
[12:06] <OerHeks> knytmare, did you restart your browser after install flashplugin ?
[12:06] <ikonia> knytmare: just told you what to do next
[12:06] <philipp_1> you know what i mean? when i try to scroll i have to go to the right border of the window... than a scrollbar apears outsite... when i wanna use it it vanishes =(
[12:07] <knytmare> ikonia, the error happened after updating some tools,
[12:07] <ikonia> knytmare: again, I've just told you what to do
[12:07] <knytmare> oerherks yeah resterded it
[12:07] <knytmare> restarted*
[12:07] <subthalamus> philipp_1: sounds like your tv might not support that high a resolution so it has to scroll
[12:08] <opalepatrick> !info glib2.0 2.30.3
[12:08] <opalepatrick> !info glib2.0 2.30.3-0ubuntu1~oneiric1
[12:08] <subthalamus> philipp_1: try using native screen resolution or figure out why it is misidentifying that monitor/tv
[12:09] <philipp_1> subthalamus: i do -.- its the window manager...
[12:09] <subthalamus> philipp_1: dont see how it would be the window manager
[12:11] <knytmare> i will just try to figure it out
[12:13] <ikonia> knytmare: do what I told you to do
[12:13] <Bndrr> Someone know Why I cant change my visual effects? I wanna Extra/normal....
[12:14] <dlentz> Bndrr, it probably means your 3d isn't working correctly
[12:15] <dlentz> what kind of gpu do you have (use lspci command if not sure)
[12:15] <Bndrr> dlentz, u know howcan I check that ?
[12:15] <Bndrr> I have a sis silicon graphics
[12:15] <dlentz> ouch
[12:15] <Bndrr> yes tell me without problems
[12:18] <Bndrr> hi? why ouch dlentz
[12:18] <raven> aopen xccube with 11.10 - how to find special drivers for graphics etc?
[12:19] <dlentz> Bndrr, i think some people have gotten 3d accel on certain sis chips, but it's not pretty: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967
[12:19] <Bndrr> I'll check
[12:20] <JermBob> if i install a new harddisk on my ubuntu server
[12:20] <JermBob> does it auto mount it /
[12:20] <JermBob> ?
[12:20] <Richard_Cavell> doesn't automatically mount AS root
[12:20] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell: how can i access the hard disk ?
[12:21] <JermBob> i need to share it via samba
[12:21] <JermBob> so i assume i need to automount it and then share
[12:21] <Richard_Cavell> hang on, start again.  What disk(s) do you have in your machine right now?
[12:21] <kpow> hi how to i reduce desktop colors from 32bit to 16bit? my hdmi outputs pinkish screen and i assume its the number of colors the TV doesn't support
[12:22] <raven> aopen xccube with 11.10 - how to find special drivers for graphics etc?
[12:22] <JermBob> ok so theres the boot disk. it boots and runs from it. i installed 2 new hard disks today and fired up the machine and need to access them / share them via samba
[12:22] <Yaaaaaa> kpow: nvidia card?
[12:22] <kpow> kpow, no intel 3000
[12:22] <kpow> Yaaaaaa, no intel 3000
[12:23] <ericP> i'd like to grab libboost-{date-time,filesystem,system}1.49{,-dev} from debian wheezy (oneric is still at 1.46)
[12:23] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell: ok so theres the boot disk. it boots and runs from it. i installed 2 new hard disks today and fired up the machine and need to access them / share them via samba
[12:23] <Richard_Cavell> ok
[12:23] <Richard_Cavell> JermBob: are they mounted at all right now?
[12:23] <ericP> i'd rather aptitude/synaptic/whatever didn't offer to upgrade anything but the boost packages when it seens newer versions in "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main"
[12:24] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell: i dont think so. i honestly forgotten how to
[12:24] <dlentz> ericP, do you hav a program that requires boost > 1.46 ?
[12:24] <Richard_Cavell> JermBob: I can't remember which directory it is.  Is it /media?
[12:24] <Hannesver> Hello, I've got this problem, I've followed this tutorial on setting up Eclipse for ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE. I've followed everything perfectly, but when I run the script, it says that /home/hannes/opt/eclipse/eclipse doesn't excist. While it actually does. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[12:25] <ericP> dlentz, yeah, boost-log's trunk requires > 1.48
[12:25] <buckv> hello, do i steel need to add the quiet splash i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.i915_enable
[12:25] <ericP> sorry, >= 1.48
[12:25] <buckv> to resolve the power regression issues in 3.30
[12:25] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell: i only have cdrom in that folder
[12:25] <raven> aopen xccube with 11.10 - how to find special drivers for graphics etc?
[12:25] <buckv> ?
[12:25] <Richard_Cavell> JermBob: well then they didn't mount
[12:25] <buckv> *3.3.0
[12:25] <Richard_Cavell> JermBob: Mate I'm not the best person to help you with this
[12:25] <ericP> (and the old boost-log stuff worked with 1.42 but doens't work with 1.46 so i got forced by that upgrade)
[12:25] <kpow> google says i need to change hdmi output to RGB instead of ypbpr any1 knows how?
[12:26] <Richard_Cavell> JermBob: But I might ask whether they mount in Windows, if you're also booting Windows
[12:26] <Yaaaaaa> JermBob: /etc/fstab and /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:26] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell:  that fine
[12:26] <JermBob> Yaaaaaa: whats that ? i understand the samba config no probs
[12:27] <JermBob> Richard_Cavell: nope only a windows laptop i use time to time that i need the files from
[12:27] <dlentz> ericP, precise has boost1.48 packages, you could either try to install them in oneiric or just upgrade to precise now
[12:28] <JermBob> well
[12:28] <JermBob> so much for ubuntu help lol
[12:28] <Guest79298> hey anyone use libre office  in here and if so for example ( if cells c1-c2= a negative number) can i have it automaticly display as RED and Positive as black or is that even posible
[12:28] <ericP> dlentz, what's the mechanism for installing precise's 1.48 in oneric?
[12:29] <fidel> Guest79298: as you are asking that in multiple channels - it is possible in MS excel and most likely as well in libre/oo. but i cant tell you how ;)
[12:30] <dlentz> just grab the .deb's from ubuntu packages and install them (i don't see any conflicts since they're separate packages and don't depend on anything ultra-recent)
[12:31] <fidel> Guest79298: regarding libre -> consider asking in the matching channel: #libreoffice
[12:31] <Guest79298> fidel well i was just curious it would be nice for something i am doing right now in libre office
[12:32] <fidel> well - ask in the matching channel then - better chance to get help. question is not really ubuntu-related. good luck ;)
[12:32] <andreas> hello
[12:33] <JensenDan> where do i find the group permissins editor?
[12:33] <andreas> hey guys i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and sort of messed up the whole login theme and desktop theme... anyway i can restore ubuntu's original settings?
[12:34] <sw> andreas: '$ sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'?
[12:36] <sw> JensenDan: '$ sudo nano /etc/group'?
[12:37] <tonysan_> What does the thr mean in htop?
[12:37] <JensenDan> SW as i can see there is no permissions there?
[12:37] <tonysan_> Tasks: 58, 28 thr; 1 Running
[12:38] <auronandace> !permission | JensenDan
[12:39] <Pici> tonysan_: threads
[12:41] <tonysan_> Pici: thanks
[12:42] <JensenDan> Where is this folder? Install this theme in your Home/.theme folder
[12:42] <JensenDan> iam using danish language.
[12:42] <Bndrr> where is the folder for wake up the system ?
[12:42] <Bndrr> i need someone with experience in cron and crontab
[12:43] <auronandace> JensenDan: you make the directory if it doesn't exist
[12:43] <auronandace> JensenDan: mkdir /home/username/.themes
[12:43] <Bndrr> hi?
[12:44] <Yaaaaaa> I have a phone with a micro sd card in it, this phone is usb to my ubuntu box but no disk showes up in fdisk etc. Bus 002 Device 007: ID 1004:618e LG Electronics, Inc. Ally/Optimus One/Vortex (debug mode) shows up in lsusb how do I access the sd card on the phone ? or do I need to buy a usb card reader ?
[12:44] <JensenDan> auronandace: Thanks :)
[12:44] <raven> aopen xccube with 11.10 - how to find special drivers for graphics etc?
[12:46] <Pici> Bndrr: Cron doesn't know anything about events like the computer waking up, what are you trying to do?
[12:47] <Bndrr> Pici,  wake up my system when it's off
[12:47] <Bndrr> cron is just for tasks ?
[12:47] <Pici> Bndrr: cron isn't going to run if the computer is off.. nothing is running when the computer is off.
[12:47] <Bndrr> I know.
[12:48] <Pici> Bndrr: Your computer would need to support wake-on-lan, and you'd need to trigger that via some other computer on the network.
[12:48] <Bndrr> for example for open the gedit automatically ? where's the location ?
[12:48] <fidel> cron can trigger tasks after startup
[12:48] <fidel> if that helps
[12:48] <Bndrr> cron -e /??/???/...
[12:48] <fidel> dont do such things with cron
[12:48] <fidel> your desktop env should offer such user-login related thingds
[12:49] <fidel> it makes sense to use cron - but for system stuff - i wouldnt use it for 'user autostart' kind of things
[12:50] <Bndrr> ofc.
[12:51] <Epyc> Hi, is there anybody that can help me with random restarting problems? OS: ubuntu server 8.04.
[12:51] <fidel> Epyc: an reason why you are using 8.04 in the first place?
[12:52] <fidel> 8.04 sounds heavily outdated
[12:52] <Epyc> I'm in a small company, everything is installed on this system, and I don't want to risk losing anything
[12:52] <zacktu> i have an extra partition on my disk that i want to mount -- i have used the gparted on the live cd to format it -- the partition is ok the first time that i reboot -- i then add the partition to /etc/fstab and reboot again -- now the partition is inaccessible -- what are the tools to diagnose and fix?
[12:52] <AdvoWork> any idea how I can scan my network to find switches only?
[12:52] <fidel> so you'll use 8.04 until the end of your life? ;)
[12:53] <if124> well, it is still supported until 2013
[12:53] <dlentz> fidel, hardy server is supported for another year...
[12:53] <Epyc> that's not the issue... it should work, shouldn't it
[12:54] <fidel> true - lts release. but it still sounds like it could make sense to jump to i.e. 10.04 (current lts) or am i wrong
[12:54] <dlentz> Epyc, have you checked for overheating?
[12:54] <Epyc> yes i have, no overheating
[12:54] <Epyc> voltage seems fine too
[12:54] <Epyc> point is, we have a tapestreamer
[12:54] <Epyc> working with bacula
[12:55] <fidel> Epyc: checked ram/memory?
[12:55] <Epyc> no i haven't, which program should i use?
[12:55] <Bndrr> I've a bit overheating
[12:56] <Bndrr> what's bacula Epyc ??
[12:56] <Epyc> bacula is backup software for a tapestreamer
[12:56] <if124> Epyc : package memtester maybe?
[12:56] <Epyc> okay will try that one
[12:56] <fidel> Epyc: memtest is one option
[12:56] <Bndrr> oh
[12:56] <Epyc> it seems it restarts whenever i'm trying to backup with bacula
[12:57] <Epyc> the system ran fine for a day without the tapestreamer connected
[12:57] <fidel> any output to the logs Epyc?
[12:57] <Epyc> nopes
[12:57] <Epyc> checked everything
[12:57] <Epyc> kern.log, syslog, messages
[12:57] <Epyc> seems to just restart without a reason
[12:59] <kneemoe> ?
[13:04] <doherty> I want to enable the non-free nvidia driver, but the last time I did that, my system couldn't do any graphics at all, I could only boot into recovery mode. If that happens again, how can I disable the driver from recovery mode so I can boot my graphical desktop?
[13:06] <Epyc> anybody other ideas on how to debug this problem, i'm doing a memory test now
[13:06] <dlentz> doherty, what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[13:06] <darrin> any word on when the Gimp ppa will be fixed?
[13:07] <Epyc> we have a rack with a few servers in it, so i thought it was a power surge, changed to another power output, no changes
[13:07] <doherty> dlentz: `lspci | grep -ie nvidia` reports "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 06fd (rev a1)"
[13:07] <if124> doherty: apt-get remove nvidia-* maybe?
[13:08] <doherty> if124: last time I did that, I couldn't get any graphics at all (couldn't boot into single user mode, even!)
[13:08] <doherty> if124: I reinstalled, and avoided the nvidia driver until now
[13:09] <derebel> the author field in libre office had some incorrect capitalization that i only found after completing a document and adding a header, even after correcting this in tools > options the field remains uncorrected, do i need to create a new document or can this be fixed?
[13:13] <boom0192> clear
[13:14] <if124> doherty: iirc drivers overwrite lots of things, you need to do apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[13:14] <boom0192> quit()
[13:14] <boom0192> \quit
[13:15] <if124> there may be more packages to reinstall
[13:15] <delinquentme> if i setup a task with rake tasks theyll work properly with any system which has rake right? but if i use cron the same code might not run the same on an ubuntu system vrs a debian right?
[13:15] <dackyshawn> clear
[13:15] <dackyshawn> oops
[13:15] <dackyshawn> haha
[13:15] <dackyshawn> wrong terminal
[13:15] <FloodBot1> dackyshawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:16] <doherty> if124: ok, thanks
[13:17] <cyber37> hi everybody i am french but i have bad english, in the french channel they are AFK, i want to now how to switch automatly to an "active" application for exemple if now i am on the first workspace, and i have an application like AMSN in the second, when i receive a message for switch otomatly to work space 2
[13:17] <axvr> wow
[13:17] <cyber37> it's an exemple, i fiind here the solutioj http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1497976.html
[13:17] <cyber37> but i dont understand
[13:17] <ponrajuganesh> how to restart cron in ubuntu
[13:18] <cyber37> i have the compiz in french i don't find the good "option for set it"
[13:18] <ioku> Ok. so i am trying to: truecrypt my win7, but i also want to have ubuntu non encrypted on a different partition. 1 Hard disc. Truecrypt suggests to install grub onto the ubuntu partition, my question, after i exit the truecrypt boot loader [esc] how will it know to try to boot the other partition? is this how boot works? hmm, thanks for your help
[13:18] <cyber37> hi everybody i am french but i have bad english, in the french channel they are AFK, i want to now how to switch automatly to an "active" application for exemple if now i am on the first workspace, and i have an application like AMSN in the second, when i receive a message for switch otomatly to work space 2
[13:18] <cyber37> oups
[13:19] <Guest61180> Q) sshd: How can i dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server 4096 bit, ie regenerate 4096 bit rsa key for the server as default..
[13:20] <ponrajuganesh> Have written this script for adding the job to the cron tab? will this help? http://pastebin.com/u4KKVDsk
[13:20] <GeForce88> nvclock for amd64 11.10 packages causes seg fault with any flags besides -h. is there another package useable to control clock speeds ?
[13:23] <ericP> dlentz, re: manually grabbing the boost dev packages from precise (sorry i'm so slow, juggling a baby), digging in i saw i needed a lot of dev libs. did the sources.list dance and it worked out ok
[13:23] <bucaneiro> what is the best cobol compiler?
[13:23] <ericP> (had to ignore a ton of "not upgrading" in the updates list)
[13:29] <MarKsaitis> root@server:~# pstree
[13:29] <MarKsaitis> initââ¬âacpid
[13:29] <MarKsaitis>      ââatd
[13:29] <MarKsaitis> why do I get these strange chars here?
[13:29] <thunder1212> i have a huawei internet usb modem and its not working with ubuntu 11.04..
[13:29] <FloodBot1> MarKsaitis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <MarKsaitis> FloodBot1, stfu :)
[13:29] <zeroEvidence> Does anyone know if the Ubuntu One team are able to recover files from ones online drive?
[13:29] <Pici> MarKsaitis: looks like your terminal/font/whatever doesn't support unicode line-drawing characters.
[13:29] <Pici> zeroEvidence: Please ask in #ubuntuone
[13:29] <zeroEvidence> Thanks Pici.
[13:30] <MarKsaitis> Pici, what do I do about it? How do I reset it to default? I am using latest ubuntu 11.10
[13:30] <thunder1212> it comes with software for  linux also but that only supports 10.04 and 10.10 .. am using 11,04 right now.. what to do?
[13:30] <Pici> MarKsaitis: You could either use -A with pstree.... or explain what terminal are you using?
[13:31] <MarKsaitis> Pici, im using putty and ssh?
[13:31] <Pici> MarKsaitis: From the putty options, choose translation and make sure that it is set to UTF-8
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> Pici, how do i rather change my linux os ssh to use unicode?
[13:32] <MarKsaitis> or whatever needs to be changed here, unicode is better isnt it
[13:33] <Pici> MarKsaitis: its just data, it should already be supported, there may be some weirdness if you're running through screen though.
[13:33] <GeForce88> nvclock for amd64 11.10 packages causes seg fault with any flags besides -h. is there another package useable to control clock speeds ?
[13:33] <wookienz> test
[13:33] <MarKsaitis> Pici, no not running thru any screens
[13:34] <Pici> MarKsaitis: So make the change in your putty config and see if it works.
[13:34] <MarKsaitis> Pici, the same putty config works fine with other ubuntu server, it's just this server, therefore I believe there is something to change in a server?
[13:35] <Pici> MarKsaitis: What does echo $LANG say?
[13:35] <MarKsaitis> pien_US.UTF-8
[13:35] <sss1234> I want to install the dbg version of a package I already have. Should I remove the package before I install the dbg version?
[13:36] <KittyTeeth> running natty. I no longer have audio. Play music or streaming download and no audio. Where can I go for support.
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  in a terminal type alsamixer, if you see MM, go there and press m
[13:36] <GirlyGirl_> KittyTeeth: Provide a screenshot of alsamixer
[13:36] <MarKsaitis> Pici, US.UTF-8
[13:37] <thunder1212> hello
[13:39] <delinquentme> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/ruby/ruby_sending_email.htm  << should this be starting a SMTP server on my local machine?  Basically I'm wondering if ubuntu comes prepackaged with a runnable SMTP server
[13:39] <KittyTeeth> how do i provide screenshot here?
[13:39] <Myrtti> !pastebin | KittyTeeth
[13:40] <KittyTeeth> oh geez
[13:40] <Pici> MarKsaitis: I don't know what else to suggest, sorry.
[13:40] <KittyTeeth> think I am going back to windows.
[13:40] <KittyTeeth> thanks
[13:40] <MarKsaitis> Pici, thats fine, thanx. I bet I should change that $LANG
[13:40] <MarKsaitis> somehow
[13:41] <Pici> MarKsaitis: That $LANG setting looks fine to me.  Changing the putty config should Just Work
[13:41] <Myrtti> KittyTeeth: you can use imagebin.org like the bot suggested
[13:41] <opalepatrick> where can I pick up glib2.0_2.30.3 package?
[13:41] <opalepatrick> tried !info but not putting the right thing in I think
[13:41] <MarKsaitis> Pici, but that lang says utf-8 ... I want unicode I bet
[13:42] <MarKsaitis> can somebody do echo $LANG on your normal ubuntu install, does it say utf8?
[13:42] <soa2ii> Hi there. If I install the 12.04 beta will it just get updates if 12.04 is stable or will this result in a greater dist-upgrade?
[13:42] <auronandace> !final | soa2ii
[13:43] <KittyTeeth> well I am having a difficult time. Every day there is an issue. Today is the audio and all I do i read read read and still don't understand. Getting really disgusted with this system. You guys are very helpful and appreciate your service.
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  that's called 'learning', a phase you go through for Windows too
[13:44] <KittyTeeth> been learning for one and a half years and every program or thing has an issue. This is for programmers.
[13:44] <KittyTeeth> going to turn this thing off and come back another day and decide what to do. Thanks guys.
[13:45] <Chaosadnd> Best learning method is failing at something!
[13:45] <sss1234> Should I remove a package before installing its dbg version?
[13:46] <foobArrr> why is my .xsession-errors 35M big and partially filled with binary data? :/
[13:47] <if124> sss1234 : maybe not, -dbg packages contain debug symbols only i think
[13:48] <GeForce88> nvclock for amd64 11.10 packages causes seg fault with any flags besides -h. is there another package useable to control clock speeds ?
[13:49] <if124> sss1234 : i just read in apt-cache that -dbg packages actually depends on the original version
[13:50] <billy_ran_away> Can anyone tell me if the freeradius package still lacks EAP-TLS support?
[13:50] <GirlyGirl_> GeForce88: Or maybe its the overclocked gpu and not nvclock which causes this? Why do you need overclocking on Linux?
[13:51] <GeForce88> no, it's nvclock. i use it to control fan. it's worked on everythign till 11.10. it's not the gpu
[13:51] <synergizm> hey guys can anyone tell me why the compiz ppa doesnt work anymore? :/
[13:52] <GirlyGirl_> synergizm: Link to the ppa please? and your ubuntu version
[13:52] <thunder1212> modem not working
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> synergizm  a ppa for compiz?
[13:52] <GirlyGirl_> !details | thunder1212
[13:52] <synergizm> https://launchpad.net/~compiz/+archive/ppa
[13:52] <auronandace> synergizm: ask the ppa maintainer
[13:52] <synergizm> sry if this is bs im rly new to linux ... :S
[13:52] <synergizm> ubuntu 11.10
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> synergizm  compiz does not need a ppa in 11.10
[13:53] <GirlyGirl_> synergizm: Only packages for maverick and earlier there
[13:53] <GirlyGirl_> synergizm: Besides using compiz from an external source will probably break unity
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> synergizm  in a terminal, type lsb_release -sd and paste the outcome here
[13:54] <synergizm> GirlyGirl_ yeah thats true but when i installed compiz couple weeks ago it was working if i recall correctly
[13:55] <thunder1212> i have a problem with huawei modem ec 306 (internet usb dongle) i am running ubuntu 11.04 and the modem is not working (lsusb displays the modem but that it), kindly tell how i can configure it..
[13:55] <GirlyGirl_> synergizm: From where did you install compiz ... it is already included in 11.10? assuming Ubuntu and not Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[13:55] <synergizm> MonkeyDust 11.10
[13:55] <synergizm> as i said before ^^
[13:55] <thunder1212> GirlyGirl: have a problem with huawei modem ec 306 (internet usb dongle) i am running ubuntu 11.04 and the modem is not working (lsusb displays the modem but that it), kindly tell how i can configure it..
[13:55] <HelenB> I tried all the screen recorders I could find
[13:55] <HelenB> and non of them worked right
[13:56] <thunder1212> ubottu:  have a problem with huawei modem ec 306 (internet usb dongle) i am running ubuntu 11.04 and the modem is not working (lsusb displays the modem but that it), kindly tell how i can configure it..
[13:56] <HelenB> does anyone know of a working screen recorder?
[13:56] <HelenB> I need this soo desperately. :(
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> synergizm  Unity = Gnome 3 + compiz, why do you dowwnload a ppa for compiz, what are you tryig to do?
[13:56] <synergizm> GirlyGirl_ first i used the softwarecenter but got bad results doing so. so i used launchpad
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> HelenB  byzanz
[13:57] <eugzol> Hey guys, I have a question for a real Linux guru. On every machine I use, with every single user, I had to go over and over these lines: # uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
[13:57] <eugzol> # off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
[13:57] <eugzol> # should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt. I want to run 'git/svn blame' or something on them and know the name of the bastard who first introduced them into default bashrc, so that I have a chance to get revenge someday. How do I do that?
[13:57] <FloodBot1> eugzol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <synergizm> MonkeyDust not rly sure myself i installed it couple of weeks ago so im not rly sure anymore
[13:58] <opalepatrick> HOw can I get this package - glib2.0 - 2.30.3-0ubuntu1~oneiric1  - from a repo? THe version in/on my system is older. Is this not in a standard repo?
[13:58] <ratcheer> HelenB: I saw something like that in the Linux news stream a couple of days ago. But I didn't make any note of it. It does exist, though.
[13:58] <thunder1212> GirlyGirl: what shoul i do?
[13:58] <synergizm> well nvm if u say it doesnt need a ppa im fine i guess ^^
[13:58] <GirlyGirl_> synergizm: 1) It is already included with ubuntu 11.10! Using a ppa version etc will cause problems and is not supportes especially if you have unity. Besides unity is a compiz plugin itself
[13:58] <if124> HelenB : package gtk-recordmydesktop ?
[13:59] <HelenB> MonkeyDust, E: Unable to locate package byzanz
[13:59] <HelenB> if124, It doesn't work.
[13:59] <HelenB> also...
[13:59] <HelenB> What is E?
[13:59] <GirlyGirl_> thunder1212: I don't know
[13:59] <HelenB> I thought I was using Bash.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> HelenB  idd, it's no loger there :)
[13:59] <synergizm> k ty guys
[13:59] <GirlyGirl_> HelenB: krecordmydesktop
[13:59] <auronandace> HelenB: error
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> HelenB  istanbul (it's tha package name
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> )
[14:01] <thunder1212> isn;t there some one common method for configuring any usb internet modem for any linux distro??
[14:02] <GirlyGirl_> HelenB: install recorditnow from muon
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> thunder1212  there's usb-modeswitch
[14:02] <HelenB> GirlyGirl, THat doesn't work neither.
[14:02] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, is there a workaround for "blue" Flash videos?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> [4-tea-2]  there is, one moment
[14:03] <[4-tea-2]> MonkeyDust: great :)
[14:03] <if124> HelenB : it works for me. it just have one ridiculous glitch that you have to save as _before_ you record.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> [4-tea-2]  iirc, you have to activate hardware acceleration
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> [4-tea-2]  is this helpful http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/324-how-to-fix-the-blue-tint-on-youtube-videos-problem-flash-and-nvidia
[14:04] <HelenB> OMFG
[14:05] <HelenB> istanbul misses the first part of the screencast off
[14:05] <GirlyGirl_> HelenB: Recorditnow works for me ... are you using it correctly?
[14:05] <[4-tea-2]> MonkeyDust: excellent, tyvm!
[14:05] <HelenB> idk
[14:05] <HelenB> brb
[14:06] <dlentz> [4-tea-2], now oyu're n longer limtedto watching the smurfs
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> :)
[14:06]  * dlentz left his typing skills in bed
[14:06] <neo1277> hi iron
[14:07]  * Boohbah jumps into dlentz' bed, searching...
[14:07] <dlentz> :o
[14:07] <neo1277> hi goku
[14:07] <if124> does anyone who is using pidgin know how to prevent it to send notifications every time someone comes online?
[14:08] <if124> *from sending
[14:08] <dlentz> if124, so you;ve looked in the preferences?
[14:08] <fishcooker> i want to create usb live for ubuntu 10.04
[14:08] <MarKsaitis> unicode or utf-8 locale? What is better to have in linux?
[14:08] <fishcooker> how to make it ?
[14:09] <if124> dlentz : i looked, but i can't find it
[14:09] <ron__> hello, what's a good usb 3.0 pci-e card which work with ubuntu?
[14:09] <auronandace> !usb | fishcooker
[14:10] <derebel> fishcooker, you can also just do a standard install to a flash drive, it works better but wears out the flash drive fairly quickly
[14:10] <fishcooker> thankyou for quick response auronandace
[14:10] <persona24> Does Ubuntu have a task manager?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> persona24  System Monitor
[14:11] <derebel> persona24, htop from the command line
[14:11] <persona24> MonkeyDust: thank you
[14:11] <dlentz> if124, what version of pidgin are you using? isee it in my prefs (using 2.10.3)
[14:12] <if124> 2.10.0 from the repository
[14:13] <Minnebo> looking for someone that wants to write few articles about ubuntu on my blog! /msg me : )
[14:13] <dlentz> Tools -> Preferences, click the 'Sounds' button on the left
[14:13] <Minnebo> or anything usefull about Linux
[14:13] <GirlyGirl_> Minnebo: Why would someone want to write on your blog?
[14:14] <opalepatrick> how do install via repos a package with a version >=
[14:14] <Minnebo> GirlyGirl its a multiblog webbie
[14:14] <GirlyGirl_> !ot | Minnebo
[14:14] <bucaneiro> the fortran compiler can beimproved
[14:14] <opalepatrick> keep getting an older version than I need
[14:14] <Minnebo> thx for the channel
[14:15] <if124> dlentz : it seems it turns it off, thanks. i guess i didn't just consider that the option for toggling sounds doubles as the option for toggling notifications.
[14:16] <freddy__> Hi - I have a problem with my ubuntu one. I want to sync it with thunderbird ubuntu v.11.10 but when going into addressbook and trying to drag the names from the personal address book, the ubuntu one adress book seems locked... ?
[14:17] <keithzz> Hi guys, Im running on Dell Celeron laptop ubuntu 10.10, since its not supported anymore I was thinking of upgrading (fresh installation to ubuntu 12.04 or 11.10, do you think it is advisable? would I  take a performance hit?
[14:17] <paulo_> i just bought my first VPS
[14:17] <paulo_> do you recommend always logging in as root?
[14:18] <jrib> paulo_: no ?
[14:18] <ponrajuganesh> how to restart CRONTAB
[14:18] <ponrajuganesh> in ubuntu
[14:19] <ZenGuy311> paulo_:  what will you do with it?
[14:19] <if124> paulo_ : no, just in case you typed rm -rf something important by accident ( like rm-rf /home /user/files
[14:19] <if124> )
[14:19] <escott> ponrajuganesh, sudo service anacron restart
[14:19] <keithzz> Hi guys, Im running on Dell Celeron laptop ubuntu 10.10, since its not supported anymore I was thinking of upgrading (fresh installation to ubuntu 12.04 or 11.10, do you think it is advisable? would I  take a performance hit?
[14:20] <Absolute0> \n
[14:20] <ZenGuy311> keithzz:  when in doubt use xubuntu
[14:20] <Absolute0> \n
[14:21] <Absolute0> When I ssh into a ubuntu machine I get that nice ssh welcome message, how can I get rid of it just for my user's logins?
[14:21] <zxiest> Hello everybody :-)
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> keithzz  i guess 12.04 is stable enough to install, support in #ubuntu+1
[14:21] <dlentz> keithzz, you should use 12.04 beta or wait for 12.04 (only a few weeks) if you don't like to upgrade because it's supported for five years
[14:21] <freddy__> Problem with ubuntu one and thunderbird ... when installing the extras from ubuntu one control panel _two_ adress lists shows up in thunderbird .. one called personal and one called ubuntu one ?
[14:22] <zxiest> I'm using 11.10 and my sda1 is using a chunk of sda. I tried using diskpart to extend its size but I'm unable to. I looked up solutions online and I moved the swap disk to the far right but there's always some unallocated space that was being used by the swap on the right of my sda1.
[14:22] <zxiest> What can I do?
[14:23] <keithzz> Thanks guys, but Im concerned with the performance, I heard 12.04 is slowish, and Im running on celeron...so..Should I be worried?
[14:23] <intore___> hi, how can i do to set by default some programs and folders for next users will use an ubuntu machine? do i have to customize /etc/skel/?
[14:23] <The_Pugilist> hello all, after plugging a sata hard drive into a running ubuntu 10.04 box it will not show up... is there a way to force detection of new hardware (other than rebooting)
[14:23] <if124> keithzz : try from livecd first before installing
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> The_Pugilist  mount it, first, type sudo fdisk -l to find out the dev name
[14:24] <cristian_c> Hi
[14:25] <cristian_c> I would like to set the file / usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf correctly
[14:25] <cristian_c> to configure the touchpad gestures
[14:26] <escott> The_Pugilist, if the device hotplugged properly, but the partition tables need updating you could try partprobe
[14:27] <cristian_c> I would like to set the pinch, drag the circular scrolling and tap with two fingers or more
[14:28] <cristian_c> any suggestions?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> !gpointing-device-settings| cristian_c
[14:29] <cristian_c> I can also post the current contents of synaptics.conf
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> cristian_c  find gpointing-device-settings in the repos
[14:30] <zxiest> Do you guys know how I can extend my sda1? I'm using gparted live
[14:30] <escott> zxiest, you probably need to resize the extended partition (which is tricky because the swap is likely inside the extended). the gui might allow you to do that without messing up the swap, but if the only thing in the extended partition is the swap it might be easier to just delete it and create a new one
[14:30] <zxiest> escott I moved the swap to the right hand side
[14:30] <tutysra> i having issues booting into ubuntu after installing 11.10 in Lenovo x120e, I installed it using alternate-amd64 the iso
[14:30] <zxiest> escott I have an unallocated partition in the middle
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> tutysra  is the hardware 64bit capable?
[14:32] <tutysra> yes it is 64 bit capable
[14:32] <escott> zxiest, i think i know what is going on. it looks like [sda1 [ unallocated sda5 (swap)] ] what you aren't realizing tis that [unallocated swap] is itself a partition called an extended partition, and so you cannot increase the size of sda1 without making the extended partition smaller
[14:32] <xgt001> hi , is 30% cpu usage while playing videos abnormal?
[14:32] <The_Pugilist> MonkeyDust, it does not show up when running a fdisk -l
[14:32] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, I did not find these options in gpointingdevices
[14:32] <zxiest> escott it looks like after restarting I can now delete the partition stuck in the middle (I had deallocated it before)
[14:32] <The_Pugilist> escott, i will try partprobe, hold
[14:33] <zxiest> escott now I'm able to resize my main partition :-)
[14:34] <tutysra> @MonkeyDust - as per the community page - there were issues with EFI boot and they have given instructions to purge grub-efi and instead install grub-pc. I had did the workaround and installed grub-pc and still it doesn't boot into ubuntu, It saya 'No Operating System Found'
[14:34] <zxiest> is /sda2 needed?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> The_Pugilist  it's sudo fdisk -l
[14:35] <tutysra> @MonkeyDust - this is the community page I was referring to - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X120e#Installation
[14:35] <intore___> hi, how can i do to set by default some programs and folders for next users will use an ubuntu machine? do i have to customize /etc/skel/?
[14:35] <escott> tutysra, if you are trying a bios compatible boot on an efi system with a gpt partition table you need to have a bios-grub partition (1mb is sufficient)
[14:37] <zxiest> escott thank you very much for your help :-) All worked out :-)
[14:37] <The_Pugilist> sorry, MonkeyDust, i meant to say that it does not shot up with sudo fdisk -l
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> The_Pugilist  try sudo blkid
[14:40] <cristian_c> MonkeyDust, I tried touchegg, but but there must be something wrong with gestures, they should be set into synaptics.conf
[14:40] <opalepatrick> ubuntu 11.10 (64) unity. I need to install glib2 version 2.30.2 or greater but the repos only have 2.30.0 - How can I do this? Been faffing about for ages.
[14:40] <HelenB> GirlyGirl, RecordItNow doesn't work. :(
[14:40] <mi3> 2hello!
[14:41] <HelenB> yes
[14:41] <HelenB> I saved it
[14:41] <mi3> sorry *hello!
[14:41] <HelenB> but when I play it in VLC
[14:41] <HelenB> it doesn't play
[14:41] <HelenB> no errors
[14:41] <MarKsaitis> My minimal ubuntu install uses 285 000 mb ram. is this normal?
[14:41] <opalepatrick> I can see this - https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3/+packages?field.name_filter=glib&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= but havent a clue if it is correct or what to do
[14:42] <HelenB> MarKsaitis, yes.
[14:42] <enchilado> 285,000 MB?
[14:42] <auronandace> MarKsaitis: you have 285gb of ram?
[14:42] <HelenB> because you have unity/gnome installed.
[14:42] <enchilado> that's not possible
[14:42] <enchilado> no one has that much RAM :S
[14:42] <if124> MarKsaitis I currently use > 2gb, so yes it's normal
[14:42] <HelenB> I have 15gb somewhere.
[14:42] <mi3> record has been broken guys! 285GB RAM! quite near the canadian supercomputer
[14:42] <HelenB> but not in my desktop
[14:43] <mi3> lol
[14:43] <ezoe> what will be preserved when I upgrade Ubuntu?
[14:44] <auronandace> MarKsaitis: but seriously, 285mb of ram usage sounds about right
[14:44] <ezoe> I guess all files under /home will be untouched.
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  depends on how you upgrade
[14:45] <tutysra> @escott - in the bios menu which is got at startup by pressing F1 there are options to change to allow non-EFI boot, the community documentation(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X120e#Installation) recommends it and I do not know how to allow non-EFI boot, I had tried various combinations in my bios settings like - (Both, EFI, Legacy) but none worked. If setting up a bios-grub partition is an easy option then I can give it a try.
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  if you fresh install, you'll have to be sure to have backed up the installed programmes
[14:47] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: i think you mean programs, programmes are something you watch
[14:47] <MarKsaitis> auronandace, does it? But thats impossible on a minimal sys?
[14:47] <escott> tutysra, if you have a gpt partition the space following the mbr is not guaranteed to be empty and so grub cannot embed its stage2 files in that space. a small partition with the grub_bios flag is required to tell grub where it can embed stage two when booting with an mbr on a gpt partition. see rodsbooks.com for lots of details
[14:47] <MarKsaitis> no GUi no nothing
[14:47] <ezoe> yes. I know. I mean, upgrade, I'm planning to upgrade by using Ubuntu's built-in upgrade feature. without using ISO.
[14:47] <ezoe> when 12.04 stable is released.
[14:47] <RobertLaptop> Question I am testing 12.04 and have a weird problem.  When attempting to create an openvpn connection there doesn't seem to be an OK or Save button the create the connection
[14:47] <The_Pugilist> MonkeyDust, sudo blkid only shows one drive
[14:48] <auronandace> MarKsaitis: 285mb usage of ram is rather good
[14:48] <raven> aopen XCcube + 11.10 - how to find the right drivers for intel graphics
[14:48] <MarKsaitis> is there auronandace no it isnt. =) is there an app which can show me a breakedown of where all ram goes by applications or smth what makes sense?
[14:48] <tutysra> @escott - thx, will take a look
[14:49] <auronandace> MarKsaitis: top
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> or htop to scroll up and down
[14:49] <intore___> hi, how can i do to set by default some programs and folders for next users will use an ubuntu machine? do i have to  customize /etc/skel/?
[14:49] <MarKsaitis> auronandace, well top doesnt show what programs are using all 280?
[14:49] <ezoe> from what I've read, I have to manually re-add PPA again when I upgrade ubuntu.
[14:50] <raven> aopen XCcube + 11.10 - how to find the right drivers for intel graphics
[14:50] <ezoe> Is it safe to upgrade Ubuntu without removing softwares from PPA?
[14:50] <Oscailt> Just wondering if I'm allowed to ask questions concerning the 12.04 BETA version of Ubuntu, here.
[14:50] <Chaosadnd> Bah, stupid Samba share won't share right.
[14:50] <auronandace> ezoe: ppas are version specific, it is better not to bother with ppas at all
[14:51] <auronandace> !12.04 | Oscailt
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  PPAs tend not to be safe
[14:51] <escott> ezoe, not advisable. if a ppa is in version X but not version Y then things break easily, and sometimes the features of a ppa get pulled into mainline in the next version
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> how do I release upgrade to precise?
[14:52] <bazhang> MarKsaitis, whats the output of uname -r
[14:52] <auronandace> MarKsaitis: can't you wait till its stable?
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> root@server:~# uname -r
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> 3.0.0-12-server
[14:52] <MarKsaitis> auronandace, no I cant =)
[14:56] <ezoe> hmm, there is a bash script called ppa-purge which handle downgrading everything to the official repository from given PPA.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  i guess just deleting the ppa will do
[14:57] <intore___> hi, how can i do to set by default some programs and folders for next users will use an ubuntu machine? do i have to  customize /etc/skel/?
[14:57] <raven> aopen XCcube + 11.10 - how to find the right drivers for intel graphics
[14:58] <ezoe> MonkeyDust: does it also remove softwares comes with that PPA?
[14:58] <auronandace> raven: you shouldn't need to, intel graphics are already installed by default
[14:58] <e0627783> hi , somebody know how to Extract the passwd.OLD ?
[15:00] <SubD> how do I install zentyal with out using the zentyal install cd?
[15:00] <e0627783> anyone? passwd.OLD extract? ;)
[15:00] <raven> auronandace obviously it has no real gpu support because the video performance is as bad as with my old eeepc and i did not test hd yet!
[15:02] <escott> intore___, it would depend on the programs
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  delete the PPA and then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:02] <intore___> escott: iceweasel, ooffice
[15:03] <raven> auronandace how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:03] <ezoe> MonkeyDust: what if I installed a software that isn't exist in 11.10 repository, but exist in 12.04.
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  dunno about 12.04
[15:04] <auronandace> raven: not sure sorry, i use nvidia
[15:04] <escott> intore___, why do you want iceweasal and ooffice? in any case i think what you want to do is modify things with alacarte, but its not clear exactly what you want to accomplish
[15:04] <ezoe> there are a lot of new softwares added to 12.04. well, I can remove them manually, But I wonder if there is a simple way to remove all software from a given PPA.
[15:05] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:05] <ezoe> without listing up all package name.
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  maybe the channel #ubuntu+1 knows
[15:05] <escott> !ppa-purge | ezoe
[15:06] <ezoe> the definition of "back to default" is interesting.
[15:06] <opalepatrick> how do install a package from a precise repo? I use 11.10
[15:06] <auronandace> opalepatrick: you don't, unless you want to break stuff
[15:07] <ezoe> well, I should read ppa-purge script.
[15:07] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:07] <ezoe> MonkeyDust: #ubuntu+1? is that a channel name?
[15:07] <opalepatrick> wondered auronandace - I need gtk+2.0 2.24.10 or greater to install gimp2.8rc1
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> ezoe  yes, for all things 12.04, type /join #ubuntu+1
[15:08] <ezoe>  /join #ubuntu+1
[15:08] <ezoe> oops
[15:08] <intore___> escott: ok. am not very clear! i installed an ldap server on a ubuntu server. clients are ubuntu also. every user will login with his credentials and they'll be verificated on the ldap server. every user will have his home directory and i want iceweasel and ooffice also.
[15:09] <escott> !info alacarte | intore___
[15:09] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:10] <Yaaaaaa> I have a phone with a micro sd card in it, this phone is usb to my ubuntu box but no disk showes up in fdisk etc. Bus 002 Device 007: ID 1004:618e LG Electronics, Inc. Ally/Optimus One/Vortex (debug mode) shows up in lsusb how do I access the sd card on the phone ? or do I need to buy a usb card reader ?
[15:11] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:11] <intore___> escott: you think is it good for my network?
[15:11] <ezoe> hmm ppa-purge remove all packages from a given PPA, then reinstall it from official repository.
[15:11] <ezoe> so, if it doesn't exist in official repository, it simply not installed at all.
[15:11] <ezoe> I guess.
[15:13] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:13] <escott> intore___, this sentence "every user will have his home directory and i want iceweasel and ooffice also." doesn't make much sense to me. what does iceweasal/ooo have to do with ldap?
[15:14] <ezoe> hmm, bash script is really powerfull.
[15:15] <escott> Yaaaaaa, you probably need to switch the phone to usb mass storage mode
[15:15] <intore___> escott: ldap will keep default files from /etc/skel/
[15:16] <Yaaaaaa> escott: ok I'll look around I'm looking under "storage" but all I see is unmount sd card. format.
[15:16] <MarKsaitis> so, on ubuntu 12.04 beta, will I have an option to uprade to full when its out after 2 weeks?
[15:16] <escott> intore___, sure, but what does iceweasal/ooo have to do with /etc/skel
[15:17] <auronandace> !final | MarKsaitis
[15:18] <MarKsaitis> auronandace, thanx a million! =)
[15:18] <intore___> escott: i thought must put .iceweasel and .ooffice in skel to have these program availables for the users
[15:18] <intore___> escott: am i wrong?
[15:18] <escott> intore___, yes
[15:18] <ezoe> I guess I'll wait until it's really released.
[15:19] <ezoe> though, it's tempting to try it now.
[15:19] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! Got a question about file system behavior. I have a main partition mounted at /, and another partition (much much larger) mounted at /home/<user>/docs. Would this cause the "subpartition" to have the same remaining space as the partition mounted at /?
[15:19] <intore___> escott: i thought was a good idea to have the programs on the server only
[15:19] <econdudeawesome> I'm trying to figure out what is going on here, as I have 11.51 GB left (only) for BOTH partitions, and adding to the larger subpartition removes space from the main partition
[15:19] <SubD> Question. Can't I install zentyal trough terminal?
[15:20] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:20] <intore___> escott: which is the better way?
[15:20] <intore___> escott: have programs on the clients?
[15:20] <escott> intore___, in order to use a program (a) it must be installed (b) you want a listing in the gui (which is known as a desktop file in gnome/kde)
[15:20] <Yaaaaaa> escott I don't see an option anywhere -__- thanks for the tip though I'll keep looking
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> !zentyal| SubD
[15:21] <auronandace> econdudeawesome: what is the output of mount?
[15:22] <intore___> escott: what do you mean with "a listing"?
[15:22] <escott> intore___, ~/.ooffice does not contain any programs. it only contains the users local preferences (like what menu options should be shown, and where files should be saved, and what the most recent edited files were, etc)
[15:22] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: http://pastebin.com/5athXLmU
[15:22] <SubD> MonkeyDust so I cant install zentyal? only ebox? I know they have been joined, but I thought that zentyal was the new ebox
[15:23] <escott> intore___, a desktop file contains the name of the program (with multiple translations), the path to the binary, and what icon should be used in the gui/launcher when the user searches for the application
[15:23] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: looking at sda1 and sda3
[15:23] <intore___> escott: so i've to install ooffice and iceweasel directly on the clients?
[15:23] <auronandace> econdudeawesome: what is the size of sda1 and sda3
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> SubD  it is
[15:24] <econdudeawesome> roughly 50 GB and 100GB, respectively
[15:24] <escott> intore___, it depends on what you want to do. you could install directly to the clients, or you could serve the installed location over NFS to each of the clients
[15:25] <mysticalone> Is there a channel for 12.04 ?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> mysticalone  #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <mysticalone> much obliged
[15:25] <auronandace> econdudeawesome: adding stuff to sda3 should only reduce the free space left of sda3, it shouldn't affect the size of sda1
[15:26] <soa2ii> I tried the installation of 12.04 beta2 (since it's big on ubuntu.com I thought it won't be that bad) … there kernel module problems in combination with the network install (not that bad, you can work around that) but in the end the grun installation simply fails and I have no idea why. Any suggestions?
[15:26] <SubD> MonkeyDust allright, but i've been reading up on some manuals online regarding installation and setups, still most of the setups are made for zentyal and are different then from ebox.
[15:26] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: would you recommend a different mount point than somewhere in /home?
[15:26] <raven> Aopen XCcube + 11.10 how to verify if gpu support is enabled?
[15:27] <auronandace> econdudeawesome: it doesn't matter where the mountpoint is really, i tend to put stuff under /mnt/
[15:27] <GirlyGirl_> raven: If unity 3d works it is working
[15:27] <DJdurr> Hello, Hello. I need some help. When i install Ubuntu, i restart, select Ubuntu on startup, and nothing happens.. only blackscreen..
[15:27] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: I did that previously, but ran into a permissions issue. Is there a good tutorial you know of that I could learn better about permissions, so I could get them right?
[15:27] <GirlyGirl_> DJdurr: What graphic card do you have?
[15:28] <DJdurr> Uhm..
[15:28] <DJdurr> I can try to find out
[15:28] <intore___> escott: i don't understand about your second solution. you mean to installed the programs on the server, in a nfs and the tell to client the path to find them?
[15:28] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: (its a personal computer, I have full admin access)
[15:28] <mi3> the menu tab on my xchat window got removed accidentally, how can I get them back? any suggestions?
[15:28] <auronandace> !permissions | econdudeawesome
[15:28] <raven> GirlyGirl_ more important verification please - unity is no indicator
[15:28] <DJdurr> On my PC i had before, i had a shitty graphic card, on this it is a good, but.. on the old PC it worked
[15:29] <cyf> msg NickServ indentify litovcas
[15:29] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: much thanks. I may be back, but I'm comfortable in fstab so hopefully got it from here. Thanks again!
[15:29] <econdudeawesome> whoooooo
[15:29] <econdudeawesome> cyf: might want to change that password now
[15:29] <escott> intore___, yes. whether or not that is worth doing is another question. if you are managing a package manually it might be easier to just setup one install on a server, and export that as a read-only nfs mount in /opt
[15:29] <Yaaaaaa> escott: thanks for the tip! it wasn't seeming to work through my front usb ports so I switched to back and it asked me if I wanted to enable storage. got it all setup in fstab.
[15:30] <GirlyGirl_> cyf: first msg and indentify ... two errors
[15:30] <GirlyGirl_> hopefully the password has a typo too
[15:32] <DJdurr> Hmm.. I have a AMD A-4 with Radeon processor(or somthing..).
[15:32] <intore___> escott: am sorry for my ignorance. what are the difference to export an installation and a read-only fs?
[15:35] <escott> intore___, i don't know how i can answer that. all you need to be able run a program is to be able to read the binary, and for all the required libraries to be available. it doesn't matter where those files are so long as they can be read
[15:36] <Geforce88> is there a channel for grub ?
[15:36] <ikonia> yes #grub
[15:37] <Geforce88> thx
[15:39] <intore___> escott: but you told me about two possibility, to export or read-only fs
[15:40] <escott> intore___, and you misread them. (a) is install locally (b) is export a network install
[15:41] <intore___> escott: ah, sorry. how to export a network install?
[15:43] <escott> intore___, you would setup the install on the server and then mount the folders via nfs to some location like /opt. then you probably want to create desktop files that point to your binaries in /opt and put those on each client
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> intore___  how skilled are you?
[15:45] <intore___> MonkeyDust: not to much, this is the first time am doing this thing
[15:46] <BryanRuiz> wow
[15:47] <remoteCTRL> can you please tell me how to set the password for the defailt cyadm user?
[15:47] <KittyTeeth> You still here MonkeyDust?
[15:47] <BryanRuiz> hey, i want to move my hard drive to a new computer? is this a simple  thing to do?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth
[15:48] <intore___> escott: with samba is it possible also i think
[15:48] <KittyTeeth> ok, you said b4 to change MM to M.
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !clone| BryanRuiz
[15:48] <t432> Houston we have a problem!
[15:49] <BryanRuiz> MonkeyDust: Id rather just move the hard drive
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  no, to press m when you see MM
[15:49] <KittyTeeth> I have Master, PCM, and Front MI which have MM
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> MM stands for Mute
[15:49] <BryanRuiz> MonkeyDust: but not sure if thats dangerous or not
[15:49] <t432> command "javac" returns "bash: /usr/bin/javac: No such file or directory"
[15:49] <KittyTeeth> oh
[15:50] <KittyTeeth> When I put M inplace of MM   00 comes up
[15:50] <intore___> escott: do you think is better have the programs on every client or on the server?
[15:50] <escott> intore___, i don't want to sound too critical, but you are clearly in a bit over your head. I'm sure you could eventually figure things out and might learn a fair bit in the long term, but its also not clear why you want to do what you are proposing. Why not just use libreoffice which is included in apt?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  arrow keys to increase the level
[15:51] <KittyTeeth> which level would you recommend?
[15:51] <naryfa1> hi
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  it's your pc, your ears, cannot decide for you
[15:51] <naryfa1> :
[15:52] <intore___> escott: what is not clear?
[15:52] <escott> intore___, what is better depends on a lot of factors. (a) do the clients have the hard disk space? (b) how do you want to manage the software installation (apt vs manual)? (c) are you running consistent versions of the OSes on all desktops? etc...
[15:52] <naryfa1> Does anybody know what's the advantage of using something like moblock or ipblock? Does this stuff really help??
[15:53] <KittyTeeth> ok
[15:53] <locodir> i want to clear all text present in log file ...what should i do
[15:53] <locodir> how to clear all contents of log files
[15:53] <escott> intore___, since you can install libreoffice on all machines via apt, i would do that unless you have a reason not to do so
[15:54] <KittyTeeth> Working! Thanks for the lesson MonkeyDust.
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> !yay| KittyTeeth
[15:54] <KittyTeeth> What would have caused all the controls to MM, mute?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> KittyTeeth  not going back to windows, now?
[15:55] <naryfa1> nobody?
[15:55] <KittyTeeth> thanks ubottu.
[15:55] <intore___> escott: am sorry but i didn't know LibreOffice and i don't know the advantages
[15:55] <KittyTeeth> hahaha
[15:55] <KittyTeeth> no
[15:55] <KittyTeeth> haha
[15:55] <FloodBot1> KittyTeeth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <dlentz> locodir, http://lifehacker.com/270790/empty-a-text-file-from-the-command-line
[15:56] <intore___> escott: so i thought only about openoffice
[15:56] <t432> Houston any response? over!
[15:56] <KittyTeeth> What would have caused my sound controls to revert to Mute?
[15:56] <rasheed> im new here where can i find help to get my numark djio to work on ubuntu
[15:56] <econdudeawesome> auronandace: The issue was I mounted under home. I moved it to /mnt and the size issue has been taken care of. Not sure if thats a bug with the size analysis or the partitioning itself. Regardless, thanks and happy trails!
[15:59] <escott> intore___, so i guess i repeat my very first question again:  why do you want iceweasel and ooffice? --- since you don't seem to have a reason for openoffice, i'll assume the same is true of iceweasel and tell you to use firefox
[16:00] <intore___> escott: i don't have any preferences, i trust you!
[16:01] <intore___> escott: my question: why do you prefer firefox and libreoffice?
[16:02] <enthdegree> Hello, all
[16:02] <morri> hi
[16:02] <enthdegree> I just resized my LV and for some reason it got disabled. When I run `lvchange -ay` to reenable it, the command returns 'device mapper: resume ioctl failed: Invalid argument'
[16:03] <fishcooker> i've done stupid things already
[16:03] <dlentz> iceweasel = best logo ever https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Humping_iceweasel.gif
[16:03] <fishcooker> $ rm ~
[16:03] <fishcooker> what should i do ...
[16:03] <fishcooker> single user here
[16:04] <enthdegree> fishcooker, why
[16:04] <enthdegree> fishcooker, did you run this as root or what
[16:04] <morri> lol
[16:04] <fishcooker> as usual user
[16:04] <enthdegree> fishcooker, condolences.
[16:04] <fishcooker> actually
[16:05] <fishcooker> there is no special things there..
[16:05] <fishcooker> $ rm -rfv eclipse-linux ~
[16:05] <fishcooker> my bad
[16:05] <fishcooker> it should be cp
[16:05] <fishcooker> TT
[16:05] <FloodBot1> fishcooker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <xananax> Hello, I am adding PPAs, but I am on 12 beta and so I hit 404 for all of them. My question is: if I manually download a package for 11.10, say, and it works, when the corresponding ppa repo for 12 will be available, will my package upgrade?
[16:05] <makara> hi. I'm getting choppy sound from VirtualBox and apparently the solution is to change to OSS audio. I have installed but from gstreamer-properties it says it 'could not open an audio device'. Anything?
[16:09] <dlentz> xananax, yes, unless there's unusual version numbering
[16:10] <dlentz> makara, you installed oss where, within the vm?
[16:10] <xananax> dlentz, thanks
[16:10] <makara> dlentz: no, oss4 from synaptic
[16:11] <makara> i'm following this: http://www.gog.com/en/forum/myst_series/sound_glitches_virtualbox_solved
[16:11] <makara> and this: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-switch-to-alsa-or-oss-instead-of.html
[16:12] <dlentz> that says "sound driver of the virtual machine"
[16:14] <fishcooker> how to add new user here?
[16:14] <fishcooker> i can do that on system setting
[16:15] <makara> dlentz: can't be. OSS for WinXP?
[16:15] <fishcooker> i can't i mean
[16:16] <dlentz> makara, it means change this to OSS (but it will only work on lucid):  http://virtuatopia.com/index.php/Configuring_VirtualBox_Virtual_Machine_Settings#Audio_Settings
[16:18] <escott> fishcooker, add a new user to ubuntu?
[16:18] <fishcooker> escott:
[16:18] <fishcooker> how to?
[16:19] <escott> fishcooker, on my 11.10 install -- go to the user accounts application click the unlock button then click the + button to add a new user
[16:20] <diki> it kind of sucks how ubuntu does not aim for compatability like windows
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> diki  compatibility with what?
[16:20] <diki> for instance, I tried to increase swap file on 11.04 by following 8.X instructions
[16:20] <diki> it destroyed the OS
[16:21] <diki> So I lost semi-important data
[16:22] <beandog> bummer
[16:22] <diki> whereas on windows, the settings to increase swap file haven't changed since Win2000
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !ot| diki
[16:23] <OerHeks> diki so is it the failure of ubuntu, the instructions or just because you didn't make any backup ?
[16:23] <diki> OerHeks:I am not blaiming ubuntu
[16:23] <diki> I am merely stating that compatability should remain
[16:23] <xangua> diki: if you have troubles knowing how to set partitons, you can allways leave the installer does everything for you wihout worrying
[16:23] <fishcooker> escott im on 12.04 but i can't add the new user even i unlock it
[16:24] <GirlyGirl> diki: "compatability" with what?
[16:24] <escott> !precise | fishcooker
[16:24] <diki> xangua:It was a post-install step
[16:24] <diki> GirlyGirl:with settings, interface
[16:24] <diki> etc
[16:24] <xangua> diki: it is not, unless you did something weird :/
[16:24] <diki> xangua:what isn't?
[16:25] <xangua> (11:24:15) diki: xangua:It was a post-install step
[16:25] <diki> xangua:I meant that I tweaked the OS post-install
[16:25] <diki> as in, after installation
[16:25] <GirlyGirl> diki: Do you have a support question?
[16:26] <whoever> hi all, need help rhythmbox was working yesterday,  and this morning i blindly (litrily and figerativly) updated and now rhythmobox freezed after launch wile searching dir, can somone assist in a rollback/fix
[16:26] <GirlyGirl> diki: Like without mentioning what you did to "destrot the OS" we can't help you. Its probably a case of garbage in garbage out if you ask me ... nothing about the "compat"a"bility" as you say
[16:27] <dlentz> whoever, did you try purging and reinstalling it? it may be a bad configuration file
[16:27] <GirlyGirl> *"destroy the OS"
[16:27] <whoever> dlentz: no , won't -P also unistall and clean
[16:27] <diki> GirlyGirl:I did mention what I did
[16:28] <diki> I tried to increase Oneiric's swap file, by following a karmic koala guide
[16:28] <GirlyGirl> diki: Very vague ... mention the commands you ran and changes you made.
[16:28] <whoever> diki: what what did you do i came in after your OP
[16:29] <auronandace> diki: by default there is no swap file, it usually is a swap partition
[16:29] <GirlyGirl> diki can you link this guide?
[16:29] <auronandace> diki: also following instructions for a release from 2008 for a 2011 distro isn't always that smart
[16:29] <dlentz> whoever, dpkg -P ?
[16:30] <auronandace> diki: 11.04 is natty, 11.10 is oneiric
[16:30] <beandog> how do you guys even remember which version is which name?  drives me crazy.
[16:30] <GirlyGirl> diki: Also you can't destroy the OS with such a change
[16:31] <ox1de> hi; i still need help fixing my laptop
[16:31] <fidel> beandog: keep it simple and remember the number-logic - which is prettystraigt forward
[16:31] <dlentz> beandog, if you hadn't noticed, they're in alphabetical order..
[16:31] <escott> beandog, they are alphabetical for one
[16:31] <GriGi> Hi, I got little question. What music player do you use? Im using Rhythmbox and I like it, but I want to have cover flow. I was trying to install some plugin to rhythmbox but it doesn't work (as I read on the net, many people can't install it). What is good music player for Ubuntu, which have cover art, or at least let me somehow browse through my music with covers? Rhythmbox got only ugly list of albums :(
[16:31] <auronandace> beandog: i prefer the numbers to the names, you get used to it after a while, especially when you know the major changes
[16:31] <beandog> I guess I'm too new to notice. :T
[16:32] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: I use Amarok and Clementine ... but I think you might like tomahawk
[16:32] <despe70> I've enabled postgresql to log to syslog, with "syslog_facility = 'local0'". I've changed my /etc/syslog.conf so it contains "local0.*        -/var/log/pgsql". I've restarted syslog with "/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart" However, when postgresql is reloaded, the messages are appended to /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog ...
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> ox1de  if you asked earlier, repeat the question, pls
[16:32] <despe70> how can I log them to the file I've foreseen for it ? what am I missing?
[16:32] <fidel> GriGi: using clementine here - kinda amarok fork- displays cover of current song & has a seperate cover-window. but most likely not what you are looking for
[16:32] <MeXTuX> I need to load a module during startup. How can I do it??? The module names is uvcvideo Thanx in advance
[16:32] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: I still prefer wmp and iTunes interface style though to the ones I use
[16:33] <GriGi> GirlyGirl, I was trying Amarok, but I read that it needs KDE libraries and it's true that it's laggy on Ubuntu (on my netbook) But I will try Clementine and tomahawk, thanks :).
[16:33] <beandog> MeXTuX: add it to /etc/modules
[16:33] <GriGi> GirlyGirl, Yea, that's what I'm talking about, I like iTunes style too :).
[16:33] <auronandace> GriGi: there is also exaile (gtk based)
[16:33] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: Clementine and Tomahawk use qt (kde ) too
[16:33] <ox1de> on boot i get the display: "no init found. try passing init= bootarg. - busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built in shell (ash) - enter 'help' for listo f built in commands. - (initramfs) [  3.056257] ieee1394: host added: IDbus[0-00:1023} guid[000ae4aaaa27c398]"
[16:33] <ox1de> what do i do?
[16:33] <marvindoppelt> how can one change the way apt connects through the internet? As in with or without proxy for example.
[16:34] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: But qt is already in Ubuntu as unity 2d needs it
[16:34] <GriGi> auronandace, I was just trying exaile but plugin with coverflow also don't work
[16:34] <whoever> dlentz: just did a purg and reinstall and it still freezes when searching a dir
[16:34] <GriGi> fidel, I'm gonna try Clementine anyway, thanks :).
[16:34] <zykotick9> marvindoppelt: /etc/apt/apt.conf is probably the file you'll need to change
[16:35] <dlentz> whoever, if you start rb from terminal, does it output any error?
[16:35] <auronandace> ox1de: what did you do?
[16:35] <ox1de> i dont know why its malfuncitoning
[16:35] <fidel> GriGi: the logic behind clementine is somehow different to itunes - but you are looking more for the itunesgui aspects i guess - which most linux players wont match either ;)
[16:35] <GriGi> GirlyGirl, so it's nice, won't be lagging on my netbook. Now I remember, I saw once icon for this player - faenza pack got so nice icon for this, juicy orange :).
[16:35] <dlentz> iirc, itunes through wine is possible
[16:36] <GriGi> fidel - I don't need exactly iTunes, just cover flow or browsing albums with covers will satisfy me.
[16:36] <mysticalone> Where can I find help on patching broadcom drivers in the debian kernel package for 3.3
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| mysticalone bcm stands for broadcom
[16:36] <fidel> GriGi: clementine wont provide that - at least not in an elegant way - as you would need to use the cover-manager window - but hf testing it anyways ;)
[16:37] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: Actually I use KDE on my netbook and its a lot more responsive than Ubuntu with gnome 3 / unity
[16:37] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: Tomahawk should suit you best ... did you try banshee?
[16:38] <marvindoppelt> zykotick9, apt.conf is empty.  See, all was well until I used proxy somewhere and applied the proxy settings system wide, later I removed the system-wide proxy settings and now apt can't connect anymore whereby it still shows that it's trying connecting through the proxy.
[16:38] <Bndrr> MonkeyDust, what are u looking for ? bcm ?¿
[16:38] <GirlyGirl> GriGi: http://banshee.fm/  http://www.tomahawk-player.org/
[16:38] <whoever> dlentz: WTF , it will work if i lauch from terminal, but from dasher it will freeze at the point where it searches for files
[16:38] <GriGi> GirlyGirl, I had banshee for a while but I think I should install it again and test it with Clementine and Tomahawk
[16:38] <dlentz> marvindoppelt, look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Bndrr  you're addressing the wrong person, it's mysticalone
[16:39] <auronandace> !pm | ox1de
[16:39] <jack_^> Is there a command to install a deb file and resolve all dependencies within the command line?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> jack_^  try dpkg
[16:39] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, it's also not there.
[16:39] <zykotick9> marvindoppelt: i manually add a proxy to my apt.conf (it's actually for an apt-cacher-ng proxy), sorry i don't know how proxys are actually handled system wide (never used one).  Good luck.
[16:39] <Bndrr> ok, I'm a bit bored. lol
[16:39] <jack_^> MonkeyDust: Does dpkg install dependencies? i was having issues
[16:40] <dlentz> marvindoppelt, but there are lots of files there, correct?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> jack_^  it's dpkg -i (for install), a normal installation, like apt-get
[16:40] <dlentz> those are the configuration files
[16:40] <dlentz> whoever, i have no idea about unity stuff
[16:40] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, yep but apt.conf
[16:40] <zykotick9> jack_^: dpkg doesn't handle dependencies.  "sudo apt-get -f install" after dpkg to try and install any dependencies
[16:41] <jack_^> zykotick9++ thanks
[16:41] <trism> jack_^: you can also install gdebi which will do it all in one step
[16:41] <dlentz> apt.conf has been split into different files inside apt.conf.d/
[16:41] <jack_^> so, '# dpkg -i <file>; apt-get -f install; dpkg -i <file>; ?
[16:41] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, ok, how do I remove proxy settings on it.
[16:41] <whoever> dlentz: it must be something within rb code, sine one way it will freeze while searching and the other way it will work
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> jack_^  try dpkg -i [package.deb]
[16:42] <zykotick9> jack_^: doing them one-by-one is probably safest (certainly isn't fastest, but will help in troubleshooting if there are issues)
[16:42] <jack_^> MonkeyDust: it fails.
[16:42] <jack_^> zykotick9: i only have 1 deb file.
[16:43] <zykotick9> jack_^: are the dependcies the other debs you have?  or are they in the repos?
[16:43] <jack_^> zykotick9: they're in the repos
[16:43] <zykotick9> jack_^: what are you installing?
[16:43] <jack_^> libmysqlclient16
[16:44] <zykotick9> !info libmysqlclient16
[16:44] <jack_^> not available in 12.04
[16:44] <zykotick9> jack_^: so what's wrong with "sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16"?  why are you using debs?
[16:44] <jack_^> zykotick9: not available in 12.04
[16:44] <zykotick9> jack_^: re-ask your question/issue in #ubuntu+1
[16:45] <jack_^> but my question isn't specific to 12.04.
[16:45] <zykotick9> jack_^: doesn't matter.  good luck.
[16:45] <bazhang> jack_^, sure it is
[16:45] <jack_^> bazhang: my question is, is there a way to resolve dependencies when installing a deb from the command line
[16:45] <fidel> jack_^: that question is answered already with dpkg & apt-get for deps or am i wrong? ;)
[16:45] <bazhang> jack_^, you have an issue with 12.04  #ubuntu+1 for that please
[16:46] <jack_^> fidel: thats what i thought :)
[16:46] <enthdegree> I just resized my LV and for some reason it got disabled. When I run `lvchange -ay` to reenable it, the command returns 'device mapper: resume ioctl failed: Invalid argument'
[16:46] <jack_^> bazhang: i can reproduce the behavior in 11.10
[16:46] <fidel> the paket-specific thing again is 12.04 specific ;)
[16:46] <enthdegree> does anyone have experience with this?
[16:46] <jack_^> enthdegree: what type of LV is it? just a linear volume?
[16:46] <dlentz> marvindoppelt, i guess you will find that configuration in /etc/apt/apt-file.conf
[16:47] <whoever> dlentz: for what its worth it was a comand issue some how %U was causing rb to freeze durring its search
[16:48] <enthdegree> jack_^, yes. it's not even split across multiple physical disks
[16:48] <jack_^> enthdegree: put these commands in pastebin and gimmie. # lvs -o +devices; dmsetup info -c; lvchange -ay /dev/VolGroupLogVol -vvv
[16:48] <dlentz> whoever, i'm sure how to go about debugging that without terminal output
[16:48] <jack_^> oops
[16:48] <dlentz> *not sure
[16:48] <jack_^> /dev/VolGruop/LogVol*
[16:49] <bluj> can anyone tell me how i can get (much) larger corners to drag to resize windows?
[16:49] <whoever> dlentz: ya that is i guess you can say the short answer
[16:49] <foolove> i need to do a reassigning of a stdin by user so my $var = <STDIN>; if ($var == 1) {$var == 5};
[16:50] <foolove> not sure on the {$var == 5} part basically based on the user input i need to reassign the variable
[16:50] <foolove> to the new value based on the condition before passing the variable to the rest of the code
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> foolove  the channel #bash may be more useful for you
[16:51] <foolove> oh sorry wrong channel
[16:51] <beandog> foolove: its var=5
[16:51] <beandog> foolove: not $var
[16:51] <foolove> this is perl beandog
[16:52] <Bender_> hello, I have downloaded a new version of a software (rawtherapee). It runs only if I have installed the older version from the software center. Is it possible to keep in launcher the new version? I can't do that, it always make start the old version. The new version is in a folder in the home directory. Useing Ubuntu 12.04
[16:52] <Bender_> ...and unity :)
[16:52] <foolove> beandog you could still be right tho
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> !precise | Bender_
[16:53] <Bender_> GirlyGirl, ok thanx
[16:55] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, there's no such a file either. BTW, am using 10.04
[16:56] <HaCkThEwAy> hi
[16:57] <ki4ro> HaCkThEwAy: Hello
[16:57] <enthdegree> jack_^, It's on a virtualmachine with no guest additions so I can't copypaste too easily, http://i.imgur.com/1YjiW.png
[16:58] <HaCkThEwAy> hey ... I m new ... Can u tech me something .
[16:58] <dackyshawn> oh gee... about to reboot a remote machine i sure how hope it comes back :-(
[16:58] <fidel> HaCkThEwAy: here is "something"
[16:58] <dackyshawn> brb... hopefully...
[16:58] <HaCkThEwAy> wt ..
[16:58] <HaCkThEwAy> !
[17:00] <dlentz> marvindoppelt, oh, i was basing it off my precise vm and assumed you had oneiric
[17:00] <HaCkThEwAy> where the hell R u
[17:00] <HaCkThEwAy> ?
[17:00] <jasmuth> funny story - i accidentally made chinese the UI language (i seriously have no idea how this happened), and i'm having trouble changing it back to english
[17:00] <dlentz> HaCkThEwAy, please stop
[17:00] <mouth1> hi
[17:00] <mouth1> anybody using an apple magic mouse with ubuntu?
[17:00] <HaCkThEwAy> wt stop ?
[17:01] <enthdegree> HaCkThEwAy, this is not the channel for you
[17:01] <jasmuth> can anyone help me get ubuntu to have everything in english again?
[17:01] <HaCkThEwAy> oho  tht U'll Gonna teach me ...
[17:02] <dackyshawn> sweet 15 seconds to boot that time
[17:02] <dackyshawn> YEA
[17:02] <HaCkThEwAy> Getting online nd having somewt info about ...IRC doens't make u the master .
[17:02] <HaCkThEwAy> As I m new So Asking For help ..
[17:02] <HaCkThEwAy> nthing Else.
[17:03] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, ah, are saying that am now fuck' up?
[17:03] <HaCkThEwAy> if U can't Sy it Stright Forward I can't ..
[17:03] <xangua> !ot | HaCkThEwAy
[17:03] <dlentz> marvindoppelt, no, i'm just saying that you should forget what i said before :P
[17:04] <HaCkThEwAy> fine #ubuntu ..
[17:04] <HaCkThEwAy> and I really need help FOr that one .
[17:04] <marvindoppelt> dlentz, and mind my own business eh? Lemme get myself some cappuccino to gear me up
[17:05] <HaCkThEwAy> I just wanted to Apply WGET command via Terminal TO Crab out the Specific PIC frm the Google .
[17:05] <HaCkThEwAy> Can ANyone help me out there ..
[17:05] <bazhang> HaCkThEwAy, no
[17:05] <HaCkThEwAy> NO ..! >?
[17:05] <bazhang> HaCkThEwAy, wrong channel, please stop
[17:05] <HaCkThEwAy> I need the Syntax
[17:05] <HaCkThEwAy> only .
[17:06] <dlentz> bazhang, i already asked once..
[17:06] <angs> I have a problem with ubuntu. when I power up my pc, I get a black screen and it says: mounting /dev/ on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory. target filesyste doesn't have sbin/init ; try passing init=bootarg ; Busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash)
[17:06] <angs> what should I do?
[17:06] <bazhang> dlentz, yep thanks
[17:06] <HaCkThEwAy> okay ..... Sorry To disturb u ... genius ..
[17:07] <escott> angs, are you ox1de?
[17:07] <angs> I dont know what is ox1de.
[17:07] <escott> angs, another person in the channel earlier with a similar problem during init
[17:08] <angs> no, I am not
[17:08] <angs> the pc waits me to type a command on "initramfs)"
[17:08] <angs> I dont know what should I type
[17:08] <angs> do I need to format the pc?
[17:08] <escott> angs, i would boot a livecd and run fsck on the root fs, and perhaps reinstall the kernel/rerun update-initramfs from a chroot
[17:09] <BryanRuiz> !clone
[17:09] <angs> what could be the reason of init problem?
[17:09] <angs> I havent used ubuntu much, maybe 10 times or so.
[17:10] <jasmuth> how can i set my locale to en_US? it got changed to chinese somehow
[17:10] <GriGi> Thanks for help GirlyGirl and fidel, I think I'll stay with Clementine and/or Banshee, they got "cover browsers", I like it, finally I can browse my collection and see that covers that I was adding with Puddletag :).
[17:11] <jasmuth> i tried "update-locale LANG=en_US", but it tells me about some invalid locale settings
[17:11] <escott> jasmuth, try en_US.UTF-8
[17:12] <martinphone> is there any command to safely remove a hdd? the icon doesnt work
[17:13] <L3mce> martinphone: try: umount /dev/xxx
[17:14] <escott> martinphone, udisks --unmount or sudo umount
[17:14] <Chaosadnd> Longwinded question. Have a ubuntu 10.04 server running at my buisness. Machines that connect to it are windows 7 home, and windows xp professional. I can make and map usershares and public shares fine, but when trying to make an admin share based on group, i cant connect from windows 7 home. Any ideas?
[17:14] <L3mce> udisks? I am unfamiliar with that...
[17:15] <escott> L3mce, part of fdo. its how naut manages mountpoints. setuid utilities
[17:15] <martinphone> escott, sudo udisks /dev/sdb1 ?
[17:15] <escott> martinphone, you dont need sudo with udisks
[17:15] <martinphone> umount didnt work, it says is already unmounted
[17:16] <g20> oi
[17:16] <martinphone> escott, udisks /dev/sdb1 ?
[17:16] <L3mce> if it says it is unmounted...
[17:16] <escott> martinphone, udisks --unmount /mountpoint
[17:16] <L3mce> what does: mount   produce?
[17:16] <L3mce> do you see it in the list?
[17:16] <amw> anyone here?
[17:17] <L3mce> or df -T
[17:17] <martinphone> mount produces http://paste.ubuntu.com/926742/
[17:17] <L3mce> then it isn't mounted
[17:18] <amw> i need some advice on install ubuntu
[17:18] <L3mce> if your example of /dev/sdb1 was accurate
[17:18] <martinphone> L3mce, but file manager still lists it, and if I click on the HDD I can see the files
[17:18] <L3mce> if you click on it, you will remount it
[17:19] <amw> anyone availible to help me with install of ubuntu
[17:19] <escott> amw, ask your question
[17:19] <L3mce> martinphone: sudo umount -lf /dev/sdb1
[17:19] <martinphone> ok, now it appears as unmounted in file manager, but the eject option does not work, because the HDD keeps rotating
[17:19] <sgithens> Does anyone know offhand what the gsetting is for Ubuntu2d to increase the number of workspaces?  The setting used for compiz doesn't take effect.
[17:20] <amw> i want to install ubuntu and dual boot with windows 7 i have two hard drives 1 i have windows 7 the other is empty i want ubuntu on there but i dont want to mess up my windows boot manager in the process?
[17:21] <trism> sgithens: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66701/how-configure-workspaces-on-unity-2d
[17:21] <Kanerix> so unplug your windows drive and install ubuntu to the other drive
[17:21] <Kanerix> You can do it through software, but that takes more explaining
[17:21] <escott> amw, since you have two disks you could install ubuntu to sdb and set the bios to boot sdb over sda, then grub will chainload windows on sda
[17:21] <martinphone> sudo umount -lf /dev/sdb1 does nothing: umount: /dev/sdb1: not mounted, disk keeps rotating
[17:21] <escott> amw, but generally you use grub over the windows bootloader
[17:21] <GriGi> fidel, sry for problems, I got another question. Maybe you know why some covers aren't fetched into Clementine, while Rhythmbox or Banshee show them? They're in tags of that files, I think they're mostly .flacs maybe that's the problem?
[17:21] <sgithens> trism: Thanks much!!
[17:21] <amw> ok escott how do i change the sdb to sba
[17:21] <Kanerix> martinphone, You can't unmount something that isn't mounted
[17:22]  * L3mce just discovered udisks and --poll-for-media
[17:22] <escott> amw, i dont know it would be in your bios
[17:22] <amw> cause i tried last night to install but it said no root go back and fix
[17:22] <amw> if i un plug windows hard drive and install ubuntu then plug windows drive back in would it mess up with the drive letter ?
[17:23] <escott> amw, it is best not to move the disks around during the install
[17:23] <amw> ok
[17:28] <adrien2> What does it mean when a linux box has been "rooted"
[17:29] <adrien2> I saw it mentioned around, though I can't find an explaination.
[17:29] <auronandace> adrien2: somebody has gained root access
[17:29] <dackyshawn> adrien2: someone has root
[17:29] <adrien2> okay that's what i thought
[17:29] <dackyshawn> errr what auronandace said
[17:29] <adrien2> Though as i understand ubuntu has the password locked by default
[17:29] <adrien2> would is be possible for someone to attain root even so?
[17:30] <dackyshawn> adrien2: it's not "locked" it's just not set
[17:30] <escott> adrien2, its usually in reference to a device like a phone where the manufacturer doesnt want you to have root not a commodity os
[17:30] <adrien2> o that's really weird
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> adrien2: it does but it  can be activated, its just advised not to
[17:31] <dackyshawn> isnt rooting a phone more like Jailbreaking?
[17:31] <auronandace> adrien2: regular users shuoldn't need access to root, thats what sudo is for
[17:31] <adrien2> yes i know
[17:31] <adrien2> i have no need for root access
[17:31] <dackyshawn> i still dont understand why they advise you not to activate root... there are plenty of reasons to have root activated
[17:32] <adrien2> it's just ubuntu is doing some strange things and i just wanted to rule that out so i was curious
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dackyshawn: its the same difference afaik
[17:32] <escott> dackyshawn, there is no need for root thats what sudo is, and it opens you to attacks on the root password
[17:32] <dackyshawn> ActionParsnip: u cant run Openfire as a sudo user i come to find
[17:32] <dackyshawn> well that's not true actually... u can just not on a lower port number
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dackyshawn: why would you need root activated?
[17:33] <adrien2> ah okay, though my question is can someone remotely get root priveleges?
[17:33] <dackyshawn> if you want to run OpenFire on a server on a lower port number (like let's say 443) it requires it to be ran as the root user
[17:33] <dackyshawn> adrien2: if they access to another sudo account and set the passwd then yes
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> dackyshawn: if you run:   sudo -i  you can run things as root without activating the account
[17:34] <dackyshawn> but it wont run at login ActionParsnip
[17:34] <adrien2> ah okay, that really doesnt answer my question, but thanks dackyshawn
[17:34] <dackyshawn> i already found that out
[17:34] <dackyshawn> how doesnt that answer your question
[17:34] <dackyshawn> ?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> dackyshawn: then add it to rc.local and it will run as root
[17:35] <dackyshawn> ActionParsnip: never tried that... perhaps i should ... i know openfire suggests setting the root passwd
[17:36] <dackyshawn> i generally always set the root password out of habit but i dont allow remote access with root
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Its just not needed
[17:37] <dackyshawn> adrien2: i dont know of any "backdoor" method for privelge escalation if that's your question... I do know if you have an account with sudo rights then yes they can in theory gain "root" permissions using your account assuming they can get into your account
[17:38] <dackyshawn> adrien2: this is assuming u have something like ssh or telnet set up
[17:38] <dackyshawn> if you have telnet and access your machine remotely then your password is unencrypted through the network so in theory someone could see that
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> dackyshawn: just found a guide how you can add it as a startable/stopable service, it will run as root at startup..
[17:39] <dackyshawn> adrien2: but in my opinion someone would havwe to really want access to spend the time doing all that
[17:39] <adrien2> yeah true enough
[17:39] <adrien2> i have neither of those services enabled
[17:40] <adrien2> though i am running a missconfigured IRC server
[17:40] <adrien2> (i've been meaning to remove it)
[17:40] <adrien2> that answers my question thank dackyshawn
[17:40] <dackyshawn> i've never ran an IRC server before
[17:40] <adrien2> it was fun, it was easier than i thought though i can't login to it from another computer....
[17:40] <dackyshawn> i do run a jabber server tho
[17:41] <adrien2> neat i never tried that before
[17:41] <GriGi> fidel, nvm, I'll use Banshee, it got nice "now playing" mode, and also show list of covers. Thanks for help, cya :).
[17:41] <dackyshawn> adrien2: are u sure it isnt a firewall issue?
[17:41] <adrien2> I'm pretty sure it is a firewall issue, though i dont know how to confige ubuntu's firewall
[17:41] <dackyshawn> i wonder if ISPs have been known to block IRC ports for hosting servers
[17:42] <dackyshawn> adrien2 is your ubuntu server at the head of the network?
[17:42] <adrien2> well it wouldnt be the ISP as the computer i tried resides on the same network plugged into the same modem
[17:42] <adrien2> er router sorry
[17:42] <dackyshawn> adrien2: that doesnt matter
[17:42] <dackyshawn> that stays inside
[17:42] <adrien2> the IRC server isnt, though that shouldnt matter
[17:42] <dackyshawn> i meant from outside
[17:42] <adrien2> oh well i never tried it from outside
[17:42] <dackyshawn> adrien2: no i was wondering cuz it should be open if u never configured IPTables
[17:42] <adrien2> and i dont trust anyone outside of this
[17:43] <dackyshawn> but that means your router isnt set up correctly to forward the ports to the ubuntu server
[17:43] <adrien2> doesnt it have default settings?
[17:43] <adrien2> if it doesnt that's pretty scary
[17:43] <dackyshawn> at least that's what i suspect
[17:43] <dackyshawn> as far as i know iptables accepts all by default
[17:43] <adrien2> that's retarded
[17:43] <dackyshawn> unless u put a drop rule in
[17:43] <dackyshawn> that's not retarded at all
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Yes, all in and out
[17:43] <adrien2> i beg to differ, the windows firewall has good defaults to protect people
[17:43] <dackyshawn> windows isnt for smart ppl tho
[17:43] <adrien2> well i better learn to configure tht now
[17:44] <dackyshawn> why?
[17:44] <adrien2> neither is ubuntu
[17:44] <adrien2> because otherwise i'm asking for trouble
[17:44] <dackyshawn> your ubuntu machine isnt facing the outside world so it doesnt matter
[17:44] <dackyshawn> you have router that handles that
[17:44] <adrien2> i right for having a inkling this thing was as secure as a peice of swiss cheese
[17:44] <adrien2> yes it is
[17:44] <adrien2> I' m talking to you.
[17:44] <dackyshawn> lol
[17:44] <dackyshawn> through a router
[17:44] <dackyshawn> your router is your firewall
[17:44] <syslq> dackyshawn: based on what peremises have you reached the conclusion that windows is not for smart people?
[17:44] <adrien2> yes, though you probably can see my IP on freenode
[17:45] <dackyshawn> syslq: it was intended as a joke
[17:45] <syslq> dackyshawn: :)
[17:45] <dackyshawn> adrien2: that doesnt matter
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> adrien2: by its nature NAT will act as an ok firewall
[17:45] <adrien2> that really doesnt matter if it's miss configured and the router does not belong to me so i dont know
[17:45] <wylde> adrien2: the ip we will see is that internet facing ip of your router.
[17:45] <adrien2> yeah i know
[17:45] <dackyshawn> adrien2: if i try to get into your ubuntu machine i'm only get as far as your router
[17:45] <adrien2> though i dont know what kind of router is here, it doesnt belong to me
[17:45] <syslq> dackyshawn: new firewall is quite nice, has an option to filter inbound / outbound on 2,3 and 7 level
[17:46] <dackyshawn> oooo
[17:46] <adrien2> okay.
[17:46] <dackyshawn> my ubuntu machine faces the outside
[17:46] <adrien2> though that still doesnt reassure me, well i guess i can learn how to configure ipttabless
[17:46] <rfictus> anyone else has xchat crash when maximize screen ??
[17:46] <adrien2> thanks guys i'm glad i talked to you
[17:46] <dackyshawn> but i must admit to using webmin for configuring my iptable policies
[17:46] <dackyshawn> but i dont have ubuntu desktop
[17:47] <dackyshawn> adrien2: make sure your router is set to forward port 6667 to the ubuntu machine
[17:47] <adrien2> well i herd of an easy to use one that is based on iptables, i need security since i'm on the internet, but i dont need much
[17:47] <adrien2> well that's out of my hands, though i could ask my landlord.
[17:47] <dackyshawn> right now what might be happening is that someone sends a request to your router for the IRC server but your router doesnt know where to direct them to
[17:47] <adrien2> i dont need much security***
[17:47] <wylde> adrien2: if you want to know what ports my be visible to the internet check out -  http://www.grc.com  services --> ShieldsUP!
[17:47] <wylde> may*
[17:47] <dackyshawn> so you have a forward set up to forward port 6667 to the internal IP
[17:48] <adrien2> though i need some... my god what were they thinking
[17:48] <adrien2> okay... good to know wylde though i'm not that concerned
[17:48] <jpds> adrien2: You know you can use ufw instead of iptables?
[17:48] <dackyshawn> adrien2 does your ubuntu machine have an IP in the 192.168.x.x range or something like that
[17:48] <adrien2> yes it does
[17:48] <jpds> !ufw | adrien2
[17:48] <dackyshawn> thats why they cant access it silly
[17:48] <adrien2> though it appears different to people outside
[17:48] <dackyshawn> yes cuz you have a public IP and a private
[17:48] <adrien2> ah okay but you guys said it accepts all thats like having none
[17:48] <adrien2> that's insane
[17:48] <adrien2> i'm glad i'm switching to debian son
[17:49] <adrien2> soon
[17:49] <dackyshawn> adrien2: u misunderstand
[17:49] <dackyshawn> lol
[17:49] <adrien2> okay
[17:49] <adrien2> well you said point blank it accepts all
[17:49] <adrien2> i miss understood nothing
[17:49] <dackyshawn> adrien2: it does accept all but thats cuz it should
[17:49] <wylde> adrien2: it will accept all on the internal network, not the internet because that is prevented by the NAT firewall.
[17:49] <dackyshawn> wylde explains it correct
[17:49] <adrien2> why should it, you dont seem to understand how moronic that is...
[17:49] <dackyshawn> the NAT firewall is your Router
[17:49] <adrien2> yes you told me that three times
[17:49] <dackyshawn> lol dont call us a moron if you want to understand why ask us
[17:49] <jpds> adrien2: Hrm, there's nothing listening by default on Ubuntu.
[17:50] <adrien2> and i know what NAT is
[17:50] <adrien2> anyways if you guys are going to talk down to me i will find a better room
[17:50] <dackyshawn> i'm not talking down
[17:50] <dackyshawn> ok w/e
[17:51] <rfictus> xchat crashes when maximized, where can I see log ?
[17:51] <dlentz> rfictus, start xchat from terminal ?
[17:51] <wylde> I'll never understand why people bother asking for an explanation when they are of the opinion that they already know.... *sigh* </ot>
[17:51] <rfictus> dlentz: also
[17:51] <dackyshawn> lol
[17:51] <dackyshawn> wylde: agreed
[17:51] <dackyshawn> wylde: was I wrong??
[17:51] <rfictus> Hi GirlyGirl
[17:52] <rfictus> are you really a girl ?
[17:52] <dlentz> dackyshawn, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink..
[17:52] <rfictus> my xchat is maximized now
[17:52] <dackyshawn> seemingly
[17:52] <wylde> dackyshawn: nope, that individual needs to learn about subnets, and basic networking.
[17:52] <dackyshawn> oh well his issue
[17:52] <rfictus> gonna tab away for a bit and return
[17:52] <LjL> rfictus: that's not really relevant to this channel
[17:52] <dackyshawn> could have had his IRC server working in seconds but whatever
[17:53] <rfictus> LjL: what isn't ??
[17:53] <LjL> rfictus: whether someone is a girl
[17:53] <zeref> I'm trying to fire up ubuntu-one, but i keep getting: Authorization Eror, Error showing url:failed to execute child..ss "iceweasel" (no such  file or directory)
[17:53] <rfictus> LjL: true
[17:53] <wylde> we're getting !ot though :)
[17:53] <ssta> zeref: you're on Debian?
[17:53] <i7c> when i install themes my panel (task bar) never changes the design. are there no themes that adapt the panels too?
[17:53] <zeref> nope
[17:54] <ssta> zeref: iceweasel is what Debian calls firefox.  Clearly something somewhere is from Debian...
[17:55] <dlentz> that's the second time today i've seen someone mention iceweasel in here :)
[17:55] <jacob`> hi guys. I'm using Ubuntu in a corporate environment. I cannot enter the Intranet site, I enter my credentials in the box in fx, press ENTER, and again the same box pops up. I was able to log on with fx on Windows. The address ends with .aspx, so I guess they're using some IIS AD mechanisms or something. Is there any way to log on with GNU/Linux to such site?
[17:55]  * dlentz is a Debian/iceweasel user
[17:55] <zeref> ssta: where do i start?
[17:55] <dackyshawn> jacob is it on the domain
[17:55] <dackyshawn> jacob`: ^
[17:55] <ssta> jacob`: usually the username is: DOMAIN/username
[17:56] <ssta> zeref: not enough information to know, sorry.
[17:56] <jacob`> dackyshawn: shit, I tried DOMAIN\username
[17:56] <dackyshawn> jacob`: do u have winbind install?
[17:56] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I'll try at work tomorrow. What if it will not work, any ideas?
[17:56] <l3d> was wondering if there is a easy way to make 11.10 look like  10.10?
[17:56] <ssta> it doesn't have to be on the domain.  It's easier if it is though
[17:56] <dackyshawn> jacob`: u need winbind i think
[17:56] <dackyshawn> it allows you to resolve windows hostnames and access domain resources
[17:57] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I don't think I have it. It seems useful here
[17:57] <ssta> l3d: not really.  You can use gnome-session-fallbak, turn off the scrollbars and the menu stuff, but it's still not really like 10.10
[17:57] <dackyshawn> jacob`: yea u need it
[17:57] <GirlyGirl_> Hi all, please help quickly... for some reason my touchpad (synaptic) suddenly stopped. it appears to be permanently scrolling stuff only with normal (non-scroll) motion. My external mouse works fine though! I am on kde
[17:57] <jacob`> dackyshawn: is it easy to configure, what do I have to know?
[17:58] <dackyshawn> jacob`: fairly straightforward to set up
[17:58] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I'd like make it clear that I'm not an administrator there, but a normal user
[17:58] <dackyshawn> jacob`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[17:59] <dackyshawn> jacob`: do u have sudo access to the ubuntu box tho?
[17:59] <jacob`> dackyshawn: yes, I do
[17:59] <dackyshawn> jacob`: in theory you should be fine (assuming that the network doesnt have anything special blocking the ubuntu machine of course)
[17:59] <ssta> dackyshawn: you need AD rights to join to the domain to use winbind normally
[18:00] <GirlyGirl_> I believe the touch pad is constantly detecting two fingers when there is only one!
[18:00] <dackyshawn> ssta yes true but not to authenticate against it
[18:00] <dackyshawn> ssta: i.e. like accessing an intranet site
[18:00] <dackyshawn> if he can access the sites from a non domain computer using his AD creditentials then winbind should work without any special permissions on the network end
[18:01] <dackyshawn> key word being SHOULD
[18:01] <rfictus> How to get more information on a running process ??
[18:01] <dackyshawn> rfictus: what type of info u looking for?
[18:01] <ssta> dackyshawn: maybe.  I've seen it fail many times more than I've seen it work
[18:01] <dackyshawn> ssta: works for me... :-\
[18:01] <rfictus> @dackyshawn not sure
[18:01] <maxmustermann> can someone tell me how to turn the fan to the max? the heat keeps shuting my computer down
[18:01] <dackyshawn> rfictus: u dont know what info you need?
[18:02] <ssta> dackyshawn: works for me too...but then I have the appropriate AD permissions
[18:02] <dackyshawn> rfictus: then it's hard to answer your question
[18:02] <jacob`> dackyshawn: but what do you mean by 'access'? I cannot access it now on Ubuntu now
[18:02] <rfictus> dackyshawn: want to know more about the 'pager' process
[18:02] <rfictus>  4530 pts/0    00:00:00 page
[18:02] <rfictus>  4530 pts/0    00:00:00 pager
[18:02] <dackyshawn> ssta: i have it on my laptop and can access AD resources pretty much everywhere i go if i have an account of course
[18:03] <rfictus> dackyshawn:  4530 pts/0    00:00:00 pager
[18:03] <rfictus> any code for this ?
[18:03] <rfictus> i know how to kill it
[18:03] <dackyshawn> jacob`: thats cuz it cant resolve the domain and cant pass NTLM through
[18:03] <dackyshawn> jacob`: if you try pinging a server on the network by name it wotn respond cuz it cant see windows host names
[18:04] <dackyshawn> (netbios)
[18:04] <dackyshawn> jacob`: if you ping by IP should work
[18:04] <dackyshawn> but with winbind it will allow you to resolve windows hostnames as well as authenticate against the AD directory
[18:04] <ssta> jacob`: another thing you can try is ntlmaps (when it works it's great, but it can be hit and miss)
[18:05] <dackyshawn> again this is all assuming the network allows non-domain machines to access it's resources
[18:05] <jacob`> well that may also solve my another problem with SIPE addon to Pidgin, it says something about NTLM error in the debugging mode. I could finally replace Office Communicator with Pidgin
[18:05] <dackyshawn> jacob`: can you use a windows computer that hasnt been on the domain to access these intranet sites?
[18:05] <dackyshawn> yea jacob` ntlm will be supported with winbind installed
[18:06] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I don't know how to check it. This is the Intranet, I cannot access it form home now
[18:06] <dackyshawn> no i understand...
[18:06] <dackyshawn> jacob`: is this a school network by chance?
[18:06] <dackyshawn> the one you want to access with the ubuntu machine
[18:07] <jacob`> dackyshawn: it's a corporate environment
[18:07] <dackyshawn> jacob`: in my opinion when u set up winbind you should be able to use DOMAIN\username to access the intranet sites
[18:07] <dackyshawn> also that's been my experience too
[18:08] <jacob`> i'm fed up with switching to Windows laptop just to use the Intranet and the communicator
[18:08] <jacob`> dackyshawn: thanks, I'll try it
[18:08] <dackyshawn> ok is your windows laptop on their domain normally?
[18:08] <dackyshawn> jacob`: ^
[18:08] <dackyshawn> like is it ACTUALLY joined to the domain as a domain memember
[18:08] <dackyshawn> or is it just a personal laptop?
[18:09] <dackyshawn> that u have to type domain\username to gain access to teh intranet site
[18:09] <jacob`> dackyshawn: it's not personal laptop, they gave me it
[18:09] <rfictus> what is /usr/bin/ssh-agent ??
[18:09] <dackyshawn> oh so it's a domain machine most likely
[18:09] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I don't have to enter domain name on Windows
[18:09] <dackyshawn> jacob`: thats cuz you re logged on as a domain user
[18:09] <dackyshawn> on the windows machine
[18:09] <jacob`> dackyshawn: yes, probably ;p
[18:10] <jacob`> dackyshawn: I'm afraid that chances are low
[18:10] <jacob`> to do what I want
[18:10] <dackyshawn> yea it wont ask it will pass the user and password through
[18:10] <dackyshawn> no they arent low at all
[18:10] <dackyshawn> u just need to be able to resolve windows hostnames and pass NTLM creditentials
[18:11] <jacob`> but do I have to join AD on my demand?
[18:11] <dackyshawn> by default u cant do that in ubuntu as far as i know.... u need to use something like winbind
[18:11] <ssta> presumably he can resolve if he gets a login box
[18:11] <dackyshawn> jacob`: nope... that's why you type in DOMAIN\username
[18:11] <dackyshawn> the DOMAIN is telling to authenticate with a windows domain
[18:11] <dackyshawn> ur machine DOES NOT need to be a member
[18:11] <dackyshawn> (In MOST cases)
[18:11] <jacob`> dackyshawn: ok, I se
[18:12] <dackyshawn> as long as you say DOMAIN\username it will then go out and find the AD controller and pass that username and password to it and it should grant you access to those resources
[18:12] <dackyshawn> same way you would do it with a windows machine not joined to the domain
[18:12] <mmiikkee> ciao
[18:12] <dackyshawn> u only need a valid username and password on the domain to access the domain
[18:13] <dackyshawn> the machine does not have to be a memeber per say
[18:13] <mmiikkee> list
[18:13] <dackyshawn>  /list
[18:13] <jacob`> dackyshawn: but it's still possible that administrator has put some restrictions on non-windows boxes?
[18:13] <dackyshawn> jacob`: possible but doubtful.. if you are getting a prompt for your username and password then no probablyu not
[18:13] <mmiikkee> !list
[18:13] <dackyshawn> if they were blocking it you'd never even see that
[18:14] <deinspanjer> I am trying to troubleshoot a problem with DNS resolution where a particular program (znc) seems to be querying some DNS servers that I have tried to remove from my config.  I made the changes to /etc/network/interfaces, but after an ifdown/ifup, znc still complained so I just rebooted.
[18:14] <jacob`> dackyshawn: ok, that sounds promising
[18:14] <dackyshawn> mmiikkee: no it's /list to list channels
[18:14] <deinspanjer> What is the best way I could make a DNS call similar to what znc is trying to do and see what IP the request is made to and what the response is?
[18:14] <deinspanjer> It seems that dig and such don't use the same settings or the same code path that znc is using. :/
[18:15] <dackyshawn> jacob`: only one way to find out
[18:15] <dackyshawn> jacob`: u do need to add something to one file for winbind to work after u install it
[18:15] <dackyshawn> jacob`: let me find it and tell you waht to add just give me a minute
[18:15] <MrUnagi> I have smb set up....with read only = no.....but I cant write to it....any ideas
[18:16] <dackyshawn> jacob`: also i think you will need SMB installed as well  just do sudo apt-get install smb
[18:16] <dackyshawn> no config needed
[18:16] <dackyshawn> and then sudo apt-get install winbind
[18:16] <dackyshawn> no config needed there
[18:16] <mmiikkee> act of  valor
[18:16] <dackyshawn> but u need to add something to a file to resolve the names
[18:17] <deinspanjer> oh man.. I wonder if this could be something to do with it trying to use ipv6 instead of ipv4
[18:17] <explorer789> !list
[18:18] <dackyshawn> jacob`: you need to add to the file /etc/nsswitch.conf under the line that starts with "hosts"  wins
[18:18] <dackyshawn> after installing winbind jacob`
[18:19] <dackyshawn> so it should look like this....      Home
[18:19] <dackyshawn>     an introduction
[18:19] <dackyshawn>     What I Do
[18:19] <dackyshawn>  oops
[18:19] <dackyshawn> jacob`: should look like this:   hosts:      files dns wins
[18:19] <dackyshawn> then thats it
[18:20] <joshua|1983> Hi i'm looking for a python channel
[18:20] <dackyshawn> #python maybe
[18:20] <wylde> !alis
[18:20] <dackyshawn> lol
[18:22] <dackyshawn> jacob`: if you find me on here when u have access to the machine i can help u out
[18:24] <MrUnagi> I cant make smb shares on ubuntu writable any ideas?
[18:24] <dackyshawn>  MrUnagi user needs write permissions
[18:26] <dackyshawn> MrUnagi: u also need to make sure writeable = yes in the smb.conf file for that share
[18:26] <jacob`> dackyshawn: thank you so much, but I'm at home right now, I don't want to ask such question with their IP, soon I'm going to set up ZNC on my home router and create a tunnel
[18:27] <dackyshawn> jacob`: why wouldnt u want to ask from their IP???
[18:28] <MrUnagi> Crap it's because root owns everything isn't it
[18:28] <dackyshawn> ummm no MrUnagi i just told you why
[18:29] <MrUnagi> Yea....user needs write permissions
[18:29] <MrUnagi> Root owns everything
[18:29] <dackyshawn> MrUnagi: u need to set the share to be writable
[18:29] <MrUnagi> So user cant write
[18:29] <MrUnagi> I did that
[18:29] <dackyshawn> owner doesnt matter
[18:29] <dackyshawn> file permissions matter
[18:29] <wylde> MrUnagi: you're trying to share directories out /home aren't you?
[18:29] <jacob`> dackyshawn: well because they already bashed for using IRC channel to ask question and talk in general, they say I represent the company when I'm at work and there are many malicious people who can figure out some details about their IT security policy basing on what I might say
[18:29] <wylde> *outside
[18:30] <MrUnagi> wylde: Yes and no
[18:30] <dackyshawn> jacob`: u should set up ssh :-P
[18:30] <MrUnagi> dackyshawn: 775?
[18:30] <dackyshawn> jacob`: if they were so concerned about their policies they should block irc in the first place
[18:30] <dackyshawn> MrUnagi: or 777
[18:30] <dackyshawn> but 775 is fine too i think
[18:30] <level09> how do I configure my server to it wont drop my ssh session
[18:30] <level09> I basically want to be connected forever
[18:30] <dackyshawn> level09: what do u mean?
[18:31] <jacob`> dackyshawn: ports like 6667 are blocked, I used webchat
[18:31] <level09> dackyshawn: when I connect to the server through ssh
[18:31] <level09> if I leave my laptop for some time
[18:31] <level09> the server will disconnect me
[18:31] <kuzushi> sometimes with ubuntu my screen freezes and I have to switch off to a raw terminal and back to get it to 'unfreeze'
[18:31] <dackyshawn> ah jacob` then we'd see the ip for the webchat site wouldnt we?
[18:31] <level09> I want to keep my ssh session forever
[18:31] <rfictus> wth is mission-control process??
[18:31] <kuzushi> any chance that is a known issue or am I just dumb?
[18:31] <dackyshawn> level09: maybe there's a timeout option in the ssh config
[18:32] <jacob`> dackyshawn: we here would see webchat IP, but they at webchat would know my real IP
[18:32] <MrUnagi> It's now 777 and still access is denied
[18:32] <dackyshawn> level09: u need to adjust the variable that says "ServerAliveInterval"
[18:32] <level09> dackyshawn: I tried from the client side, but it did not work, I want to change it from the remote side
[18:33] <level09> dackyshawn: yes, that variabel did not do it for me, perhaps its better to do it from the sshd_config side
[18:33] <dackyshawn> level09: add to /etc/ssh_config
[18:33] <dackyshawn> yes its a server side variable
[18:33] <dackyshawn> not client i think
[18:33] <level09> dackyshawn: ssh_config is the client, but sshd_config is the server
[18:33] <level09> dackyshawn:  still what should I put in there ? a small number or a big number ?
[18:34] <dackyshawn> level09: http://docs.oseems.com/application/ssh/disable-timeout
[18:34] <level09> dackyshawn: thanks ! reading ..
[18:34] <dackyshawn> level09: doesnt matter what the number is i dont think... as long as it's within range of the normal timeout i think
[18:34] <dackyshawn> so like 5 i think would do every 5 seconds a keep alive packet
[18:35] <MarKsaitis> how can I view and switch to different shells/ptys - whatever u call them?
[18:35] <level09> dackyshawn:  thanks, that article mentions sshd as well, but the page seems messed up
[18:35] <level09> ah now fine , just had to refresh
[18:36] <wylde> MarKsaitis: ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 or f3 etc.
[18:37] <tyler_d> sorry, dackyshawn and level09 whats wrong with just modifying your keepalive, should already be set to yes(that is teh default)
[18:37] <tyler_d> TCPKeepAlive
[18:37] <level09> tyler_d: it did not work for me
[18:37] <level09> tyler_d: u mean on the server ?
[18:37] <tyler_d> level09: define that. what do you mean didn't work
[18:37] <level09> tyler_d: so far I only tried on the client side
[18:38] <tyler_d> on your local machine level09
[18:38] <level09> tyler_d: I am getting errors , socket error : connection reset by peer
[18:38] <level09> or broken pipe
[18:38] <level09> or
[18:38] <level09> ssh exception : session is not active
[18:38] <level09> tyler_d:  yes
[18:38] <MrUnagi> Ntfs sucks
[18:38] <ssta> tyler_d: because TCPKeepAlive is at the TCP levevl...many NATting routers don't bother passing them along.  ServerAliveInterval is an application level keepalive that IS passsed through
[18:39] <jacob`> dackyshawn: the other thing is, that even if I accessed the intranet, there are probably plenty of MS activex elements and other frills. Address ends with .aspx, so it's probably the case
[18:39] <tyler_d> ssta: tyvm, that is more like what I was looking for :)
[18:40] <level09> I actually have that setting inside an app, I think I can also keep it going by executing some dummy command every few minutes
[18:40] <ssta> jacob`: considered running a small windows VM (something like virtualbox works well)
[18:42] <ssta> and FYI ServerAliveInterval is a client setting...
[18:42] <cog> How do I get rid of the little silhouette in the right upper corner of my desktop?
[18:42] <jacob`> ssta: they'd have to buy another license, and I'd have to fill in 1000 papers for it to happen
[18:43] <ssta> jacob`: ah...shame.  I find VMs very handy for stuff like that
[18:43] <ssta> jacob`: don't suppose they have a citrix server to run IE from?
[18:45] <jacob`> ssta: I don't know, I'll ask. But that's the last thing I'll use, IE is unusable for me
[18:45] <ssta> jacob`: agreed, but if they have activex stuff then it might be the only option (thought you said there was?)
[18:47] <jacob`> I think there are, so far I used only on Windows and IE
[18:47] <ssta> have you tried on windows with !IE?  (firefox or chrome or whatnot...)
[18:48] <cog> How do I get rid of the little silhouette in the right upper corner of my desktop?
[18:49] <GirlyGirl> cog: silhouette in the corner?
[18:50] <GirlyGirl> cog: screenshot please
[18:50] <cog> next to my username
[18:50] <jacob`> ssta: maybe i did, but I don't remember, sorry ;p But if this site was filled up with activex and stuff, is the VM the only way to go to display it properly, there are no open activex implementations for Linux?
[18:51] <ssta> jacob`: none that I'm aware of.  I doubt that they're really possible.  There *might* be some way under wine, nut I don't know for sure
[18:52] <jacob`> ssta: it's a shame
[18:54] <GirlyGirl> cog: Us imagebin
[18:55] <ssta> jacob`: basically an activeX control is a COM object, which is microsoft specific.  All of the languages they can be written in are windows specific AFAIK and need the ATL/MFC libraries.  Personally I think it's fine that Linux doesn't support them...I've never seen them do anything that you *should* be doing that couldn't be done in a platform independent way.  LOTS of stuff that you really shouldn't be doing though (hence th
[18:55] <cog> http://imagebin.org/207749
[18:56] <Tob0> !chat
[18:56] <Tob0> hi where i can chat with ubuntu users?
[18:56] <LjL> Tob0: #ubuntu-offtopic is the general chat channel
[18:57] <Tob0> :D
[18:58] <ultrixx>  /join #ubuntu-de
[18:58] <Tob0> tx
[18:58] <Tob0> :P
[18:58] <Tob0> de?
[18:58] <Tob0> o.O
[18:59] <GirlyGirl> cog: the user name is the silhouette?
[18:59] <jacob`> ssta: also for me there are no benefits of using activeX, but some ppl think different, and they say that everybody uses Windows
[18:59] <ssta> jacob`: yeah.  Some people are misguided imo :)
[18:59] <cog> No, left of the username on the same panel.
[19:00] <ultrixx> Tob0: that was not for you :-)
[19:00] <Tob0> ok ok sorry :P
[19:01] <aj__> where is proxy setting for empathy?
[19:04] <mr> hello???
[19:04] <mr> Does anyone know of a free vpn service?
[19:07] <Kanerix> mr: What makes you think a linux help channel is the best place to ask about an online service that has nothing to do with linux?
[19:07] <Kanerix> just wondering
[19:07] <FerkSwe> Hey! Is there any way to send the sounds out like a mic, so I can hook it up to applications and stuff. Similar to stereo mix on windows
[19:08] <Kanerix> FerkSwe, what input are you trying to map to what output?
[19:08] <Kanerix> let's start there
[19:10] <ox1de> I have this error on boot: "no init found. try passing init= bootarg. - busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built in shell (ash) - enter 'help' for listo f built in commands. - (initramfs) [  3.056257] ieee1394: host added: IDbus[0-00:1023} guid[000ae4aaaa27c398]" - need reconisence becuz I need to fix my laptop! msg me any help
[19:10] <Kanerix> ox1de, nobody is going to msg you for a question you ask here
[19:10] <Kanerix> also, your root file system seems to be missing
[19:11] <ox1de> where did it go?
[19:11] <ox1de> what is the method of repairing it?
[19:11] <Kanerix> haha I'm not psychic
[19:11] <Kanerix> Well, first you need to figure out what happened to it
[19:11] <Kanerix> or tell us what you did
[19:12] <cog> How do I get rid of the little silhouette in the right upper corner of my desktop?
[19:12] <Kanerix> cog: what
[19:13] <GirlyGirl> mr: yes
[19:13] <cog> Kanerix I have a silhouette next to my user name that I don't want to see!  How do I get rid of it?
[19:13] <ox1de> it just failed to boot and gave that message
[19:13] <ox1de> is there a command sequence I can input to repair it?
[19:13] <GirlyGirl> cog: You can't according to me but I don't know
[19:13] <Kanerix> ox1de, dude, what did you do before you booted it up
[19:14] <ox1de> i didnt make any error really that i'm aware of
[19:14] <Kanerix> There is no command sequence to repair it if you don't know what caused it
[19:14] <Kanerix> did you remove the hard drive?
[19:14] <ox1de> no.
[19:14] <Kanerix> did you format something and miss?
[19:14] <ox1de> the hard drive is still in there..
[19:14] <ox1de> it ran well for 8 months
[19:14] <Kanerix> did you install something over the top of it?
[19:14] <ox1de> no i didnt format it
[19:14] <ox1de> no
[19:15] <Kanerix> There are almost infinite amount of things that could have happened to it
[19:15] <Kanerix> and I'm not going to play the guessing game with you
[19:15] <Kanerix> What did you do the last time it was booted
[19:15] <Kanerix> simple question
[19:16] <ox1de> I didnt perceive any error
[19:16] <ox1de> it was just a random reboot
[19:16] <Kanerix> I said nothing about errors
[19:16] <Kanerix> I asked what you did
[19:16] <Kanerix> What did you do
[19:17] <aj__> @Kanerix what about proxy support in empathy?
[19:17] <timoharling> anybody really good with remmina?
[19:17] <Kanerix> aj_ what? I have no idea
[19:17] <ox1de> what is a good comand string to input into the glitched load?
[19:18] <ox1de> for this: "no init found. try passing init= bootarg. - busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built in shell (ash) - enter 'help' for listo f built in commands. - (initramfs) [  3.056257] ieee1394: host added: IDbus[0-00:1023} guid[000ae4aaaa27c398]
[19:18] <aj__> empathy does not use system proxy setting if you are behind a proxy!
[19:18] <Kanerix> ox1de, you can't fix it without finding where the root filesystem is
[19:18] <Kanerix> not liking the answer doesn't change the answer
[19:18] <ox1de> how can i scan for a root?
[19:18] <Kanerix> The only guaranteed option, ox1de is to reinstall
[19:20] <Kanerix> ox1de, again, we can't help you find it if we don't know what you did last time the machine was running
[19:21] <kame> mkdir doesn't work because filesystem is only readable
[19:21] <kame> what can I doß
[19:21] <kame> ?
[19:21] <Kanerix> mount -o remount,rw /path/to/filesystem
[19:21] <Pl3nar1us> Hello all :)
[19:22] <Kanerix> hi
[19:24] <kame> Kanerix mount: /media/sda1 not mounted already
[19:25] <Kanerix> kame, um is that the actual mount point?
[19:26] <Kanerix> type mount
[19:26] <Kanerix> and see what things are mounted where
[19:26] <kame> Kanerix but I cant find sda1,2 or 3
[19:26] <ebby> !ciao
[19:26] <kame> Kanerix wait :)
[19:26] <ebby> !list
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> I got E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> . I had apt-get install some soft at a first prompt and got interrupted network.
[19:26] <MarKsaitis> how do I clear it?
[19:28] <alternative> hello
[19:28] <kame> Kanerix   /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ext2 ....         but mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 doesn't work
[19:28] <alternative> i have an issue with my wirlees card
[19:28] <Kanerix> are you root, kame?
[19:28] <Kanerix> sudo it
[19:28] <ebby> !ciao
[19:28] <FerkSwe> Oh sorry, I wnet afk, What i wanted to do is make a "Mic" that listens to all the sounds my computer makes so just like if I say it it's recorded as a mic, but from programs. You know what I mean?
[19:29] <imbezol> Kanerix: should be mount -o remount,rw /media/sda1
[19:29] <kame> Kanerix no
[19:29] <Kanerix> imbezol, you can use the mount path or the device, it doesn't matter
[19:29] <Kanerix> but you need to use sudo
[19:29] <imbezol> Kanerix: so what if it's mounted in more than one spot?
[19:29] <kame> Kanerix only readable filesystem also with sudo
[19:29] <Kanerix> (sorry, I'm not used to ubuntu yet. I'm used to just using the root user for stuff)
[19:30] <Kanerix> imbezol, doesn't matter if the thing he's trying to access is in a particular mount point
[19:30] <alternativerock1> hello. I have a usb wireless "zappa zw-uw11nt" but it dont works on ubuntu 10.04.4. can someone help me?
[19:30] <kame> Kanerix I want to reinstall Linux now
[19:30] <Kanerix> ...why?
[19:30] <Kanerix> alternativerock1, is there a windows driver for it? If so, you might want to use ndiswrapper
[19:31] <alternativerock1> Yes, but it runs native in 10.10+
[19:31] <kame> Kanerix because it got broken :/   I used gentoo and cross-development but I dont know how to make my folder writeable :D
[19:31] <kame> cross-compiling
[19:31] <Kanerix> is the file system mounted read-write and your directory permissions are set wrong?
[19:32] <alternativerock1> Kanerix : if I update the kernel, may it works ?
[19:32] <Kanerix> alternativerock1, yeah, most likely
[19:32] <alternativerock1> I will try
[19:32] <Kanerix> it'll be either in the kernel or a module attached to the kernel
[19:32] <kame> Kanerix you mean chmod?
[19:33] <Kanerix> kame, yep
[19:34] <kame> Kamerix error, filesystem is only readable :)
[19:34] <alternativerock1> Kanerix : do you know if it is vey updated ubuntu 10.04.4 ?
[19:34] <EvilResistance> alternativerock1, updated it how?
[19:35] <alternativerock1> the packages. i mean like wine
[19:35] <Kanerix> alternativerock1, I don't know
[19:35] <alternativerock1> ok, thanks
[19:35] <EvilResistance> alternativerock1, you could check the lucid-updates repository, most unsupported updates go there, not sure how "updated" it is though
[19:36] <imbezol> Kanerix: interesting.. seems to be some bugs with remount and multiple mounts of a filesystem
[19:36] <alternativerock1> EvilResistance : thanks. do you know if it is possible to have ubuntu maveric updated? sorry for my bad english
[19:36] <imbezol> Kanerix: using either the device, or mountpoints, it gets confused about which filesystems are rw and which are ro
[19:37] <Kanerix> imbezol, I haven't seen any issue with it, tbh
[19:37] <Kanerix> I used embedded systems more than not, though
[19:37] <kame> :/
[19:37] <imbezol> Kanerix: for example.. if you have a device mounted twice, and use either the device or the dir to make it RO, then try to write, it's RO on both spots
[19:37] <EvilResistance> !maverick
[19:37] <imbezol> Kanerix: however, if you then make it rw using the dir, it affects only one dir
[19:38] <imbezol> Kanerix: so.. it's inconsistent
[19:38] <EvilResistance> alternativerock1, Maverick's past EOL
[19:38] <alternativerock1> yeah i know is dead but is the best version
[19:38] <EvilResistance> alternativerock1, Maverick is past EOL.  its not going to be updated
[19:38] <Kanerix> imbezol, alright. Fair enough. There's not a whole lot of reasons to mount the same file system multiple times though
[19:38] <GirlyGirl> alternativerock1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[19:38] <kame> imbezol now I use a knoppix-LiveCD an try to create the basic folders
[19:38] <imbezol> Kanerix: no.. but the mount options should stay with the mountpoint you're working on
[19:39] <Kanerix> yeh
[19:39] <GirlyGirl> alternativerock1: If you dislike unity, you should give kde a shot in precise
[19:39] <lo0m> alternativerock1: it's linux.. if you've configured it to your liking, just dist-upgrade, your settings will stay
[19:39] <Kanerix> GirlyGirl, yeah, I prefer either KDE or LXDE personally =)
[19:40]  * Psi-Jack chants, XFCE! XFCE! XFCE! and runs off.
[19:40] <imbezol> KDE seems to be the lesser of evils for me too
[19:40] <Kanerix> Psi-Jack, pssh
[19:40] <Kanerix> XFCE is become bloaty
[19:41] <Kanerix> *becoming
[19:41] <Psi-Jack> Bull!
[19:41] <Psi-Jack> It's no more "bloated" than it was when it was a CDE-like clone.
[19:41] <imbezol> xfce is ok too.. i don't like the menu bar at the bottom and the task bar at the top though that's probably configurable
[19:41] <GirlyGirl> Kanerix: Interesting as KDE 4 just began losing its bloat very recently
[19:41] <Psi-Jack> imbezol: Quite configurable, and easily so. ;)
[19:41] <Psi-Jack> imbezol: Different distros pre-configure it differently.
[19:42] <imbezol> Psi-Jack: yeah i remember back in the gentoo days it seemed to have a nice settings area
[19:42] <denis_> hello
[19:42] <imbezol> Psi-Jack: didn't see that the other day when i was messing with it
[19:42] <Kanerix> GirlyGirl, KDE may be bloated, but at least it's PRETTY and bloated
[19:42] <Psi-Jack> imbezol: It's always had that, even when it was a CDE-like clone. ;)
[19:42] <imbezol> Kanerix: my beef with KDE is that the ui is just so buggy.. all the fancy config drop downs and stuff are seriously buggy
[19:42] <futurian> Never thought I'd say it, but Unity's starting to grow on me a little..
[19:42] <imbezol> Kanerix: plus it has some really annoying cludges with multimonitor
[19:43] <jann`> babble online?
[19:43] <GirlyGirl> Kanerix: It feels faster than untiy now since 4.8
[19:43] <Psi-Jack> Umm..
[19:43] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: When did you last try KDE?
[19:43] <Kanerix> imbezol, hmm... I haven't experienced that much. I also don't do multimonitor either, though.
[19:43] <imbezol> Kanerix: i still think kde 3.6 or whatever the last version was is the best desktop that ever lived on linux
[19:43] <Psi-Jack> Unity... Is... VERY... Slow.
[19:43] <imbezol> GirlyGirl: i use it now
[19:43] <Kanerix> GirlyGirl, haha yeah
[19:43] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: Which version?
[19:43] <Psi-Jack> Heck, Unity was first introduced for intended use for NETBOOKS.. However, it was too much for even some of the more powerful Netbooks out there.
[19:44] <imbezol> whatever's latest on 11.10
[19:44] <futurian> @psi-jack... Not running too bad over here on the latest LTS beta..
[19:44] <jann`> gonna install 12.04 on zenbook ux31 that's gonna be awsome
[19:44] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: Ah ok you should see a big change on 12.04
[19:44] <Kanerix> Hmm I probably shouldn't mention that I'm not technically using ubuntu huh...
[19:44] <imbezol> Hostname: castle - OS: Linux 3.0.0-19-generic/x86_64 - Distro: Ubuntu 11.10 - CPU: 4 x AMD Phenom II X4 940 (3010.318 MHz) - Processes: 198 - Uptime: 2d 14h 48m - Users: 2 - Load Average: 0.00 - Memory Usage: 1878.80MB/8001.78MB (23.48%) - Disk Usage: 1702.88GB/2368.42GB (71.90%)
[19:45] <kame> Kanerix Any ideas?
[19:45] <imbezol> GirlyGirl: is 12.04 official yet?
[19:45] <Kanerix> kame: um did you check the permissions?
[19:45] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: no
[19:45] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20make%20Kubuntu%20(KDE)%20blazing%20fast%20and%20optimise%20it%20for%20performance%20%7C%20kio_http
[19:45] <Kanerix> kame: You might try unmounting the file system and running a fsck on it
[19:45] <GirlyGirl> imbezol: interesting read for you
[19:45] <jann`> 12.04 off in may ?
[19:45] <jann`> i belive
[19:46] <EvilResistance> imbezol, 12.04 isnt released yet as stable
[19:46] <EvilResistance> !12.04
[19:46] <kame> Kanerix 731 for /mnt
[19:46] <alteregod> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[19:46] <imbezol> GirlyGirl: cool.. i'll take a look in the evening one of these days (ie, when i'm not at work :)
[19:46] <futurian> @jann.. I thought April 26th ish..?
[19:46] <Kanerix> kame, you said it was mounted at /media/sda1
[19:46] <jann`> ï see, i might be mistaken though.
[19:46] <imbezol> i still run 11.04 on my work lappy cuz gnome just works and i can't afford to have it broke
[19:46] <Psi-Jack> The problem I have with KDE and Kubuntu is, well, Kubuntu makes KDE look horrible, and they just cut funding for the Kubuntu project.. KDE devs actually do not like bug reports from Kubuntu maintainers because they'r eusually creating new bugs, not finding actual bugs.
[19:47] <Psi-Jack> Essentially, manufacturing bugs. ;)
[19:47] <alteregod> imbezol: yeah don't touch a running system, and you got enough back ports for 11.04
[19:48] <Kanerix> Psi-Jack, KDE on opensuse ain't so bad, if you de-ugly it
[19:48] <futurian> Hmm.. Conspiricy theory?!?
[19:48] <kvgeorge1> I am trying to setup fstab to mount an already mount point to be read-only using Ubuntu 11.10 64bit, but having serious issues getting it working
[19:48] <kame> Kanerix yes
[19:48] <futurian> KDE looked better then it played :-S
[19:48] <Psi-Jack> Kanerix: It's definitely their flagship. But openSUSE's gone downhill for me. I won't even use it anymore/
[19:48] <kvgeorge1> I have a mp called /root/snapshot that is mounted to /dev/sdb1
[19:48] <GirlyGirl> Psi-Jack: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Blue-Systems-to-sponsor-Kubuntu-1518345.html
[19:48] <alteregod> imbezol:  you have to wait a few months till so called (stable releases) are fixed from bugs so its recommend to wait a year for the current release
[19:48] <Psi-Jack> GirlyGirl: Sigh...
[19:49] <kvgeorge1> I want /snapshot to be available to all users, but in a RO state of /root/snapshot
[19:49] <Psi-Jack> GirlyGirl: So the agony continues.
[19:49] <Kanerix> Psi-Jack, yeah... I've been using it for years and its decline is disappointing
[19:49] <alteregod> ubuntu is just a bunch of debian patches, with all the bugs
[19:49] <Psi-Jack> GirlyGirl: Well, I HOPE they can finally get to actually packing it /correctly/ for once. Because they've been failing that for years.
[19:49] <kvgeorge1> anyone know how to set this up with fstab?
[19:49] <Kanerix> kame: so what does permissions of /mnt/ have to do with the permissions of /media/sda1/whatever
[19:49] <Kanerix> ?
[19:50] <GirlyGirl> Psi-Jack: In what sense? What was wrongly packed?
[19:51] <imbezol> alteregod: yeah.. i've done an enormous amount of pulling my hair out with 11.10 on my home system
[19:51] <imbezol> alteregod: not to complain or anything, but it's definitely way out in front for the "worst release ubuntu has ever done" award
[19:52] <alteregod> yeah maybe the pancreatic pangolin or whatever may be a little bit better but wait a few months till june
[19:52] <Kanerix> I'm damn close to building an LFS system
[19:52] <imbezol> Kanerix: i got part way through a few times :)
[19:52] <kame> Kanerix same permissions in mnt and media
[19:52] <imbezol> Kanerix: something always seemed to break and i'd run out of time to figure out why
[19:53] <Kanerix> imbezol, I think I know enough now to do it
[19:53] <jigrap> is there a way to switch back to the old interface in ubuntu 12.04? (remove the ubuntu one)
[19:53] <imbezol> Kanerix: yeah.. and it's probably better
[19:53] <Kanerix> imbezol, I'd also try it on some non-critical system (like my laptop) on a spare partition or somesuch
[19:53] <gnuskool> howdy! anyone here got zarafa mail on ubuntu?
[19:53] <imbezol> Kanerix: but i do have almost 15 years of experience including coding, building clusters, and admining several other unix OSes
[19:53] <alteregod> or wait for the quirky quagga
[19:54] <gnuskool> can zarafa be used to send and rercieve mail from my isp on IMAP?
[19:54] <aeon-ltd> !nounity | jigrap
[19:54] <imbezol> Kanerix: i even built a few custom kernel modules for sun cobalt RAQ servers
[19:54] <Kanerix> imbezol, heh nice. I'm not THAT experienced, but I'm pretty damn good at learning things
[19:54] <kvgeorge1> anyone used FSTAB to mount a dir as ro?
[19:54] <jigrap> aeon-ltd: is it the same for 12.04?
[19:54] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, yeah, you just specify "ro" in the options area
[19:55] <gnuskool> imbezol: used zarafa by any chance ?
[19:55] <kvgeorge1> did that, but it
[19:55] <aeon-ltd> jigrap: if it's still unity it's prob still 95% true
[19:55] <Kanerix> gnuskool, I haven't heard of it. Sorry, mate.
[19:55] <jigrap> aeon-ltd: thanks
[19:55] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  did that, but doesn't work.  Basically, mount comes back stating that it is already mounted as 'rw'
[19:55] <futurian> for gnome classic.. install gnome-panel and select the different desktop environment at the login screen
[19:55] <imbezol> gnuskool: nope
[19:55] <aeon-ltd> jigrap: i don't think gnome will ever go back though, have you considered other desktop environments?
[19:56] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[19:56] <Kanerix> kame, how many times is /dev/sda1 mounted on your machine?
[19:56] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: #mount /root/snapshot
[19:56] <kvgeorge1> /dev/sdb1	/root/snapshot	ext4	defaults	0	0
[19:56] <kvgeorge1> /root/snapshot	/snapshot	none	bind,ro	0	0
[19:58] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, if you run "mount -o remount,ro /root/snapshot" what happens?
[19:59] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: it works
[19:59] <jigrap> aeon-ltd: i've used xfce but i didnt like it as much
[19:59] <jigrap> aeon-ltd: whats another alternative thats good?
[19:59] <ox1de> still having problems... this is what loads on boot "no init found. try passing init= bootarg. - busybox v1.13.3 (ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built in shell (ash) - enter 'help' for listo f built in commands. - (initramfs) [  3.056257] ieee1394: host added: IDbus[0-00:1023} guid[000ae4aaaa27c398]"
[19:59] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  I just can't seem to get it to work in fstab
[19:59]  * Kanerix sighs at ox1de 
[19:59] <Pl3nar1us> Do you have to use synaptic in order to install deb repositories in 11.10?
[19:59] <ox1de> how do i fix my filesystem?
[19:59] <aeon-ltd> jigrap: lxde? or just openbox by itself is pretty good but you will need a separate app for a panel/taskbar
[19:59] <Kanerix> you have to find it first
[20:00] <GirlyGirl> Pl3nar1us: "gksudo software-properties-gtk"
[20:00] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  was that to me?
[20:00] <jigrap> aeon-ltd: cool i'll check that out I used to use windowmaker years ago and i loved the next look
[20:00] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, have you tried remount,ro in the options? not sure that'll work
[20:00] <jigrap> not sure if that window manager even exists today
[20:00] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, no it was to ox1de
[20:00] <Pl3nar1us> Girlygirl: Ty
[20:00] <Kanerix> he keeps asking the same question
[20:00] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  yes, but remount is not a valid option
[20:00] <Kanerix> and his root filesystem is gone
[20:01] <ox1de> how do i get it back?
[20:02] <ox1de> is my cpu dead or is there a way to repair it?
[20:02] <Kanerix> your CPU has nothing to do with your root file system
[20:02] <ox1de> are you a robot?
[20:02] <Kanerix> Really, dude?
[20:02] <Kanerix> No, I'm impatient and tired of giving you the same answer
[20:03] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: is there somewhere that shows the valid options for fstab in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:03] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, man fstab usually has a rundown
[20:04] <Kanerix> I don't have a machine at my disposal at the moment to check
[20:04] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  didn't find it there either.... :-(
[20:04] <Kanerix> you might also try man mount
[20:04] <Kanerix> and see if there's something in there that we're missing
[20:04] <Bndrr> hi all
[20:04] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: man mount mentions the "bind" option, but not "remount"
[20:05] <Kanerix> well, remount does exactly what it says on the tin ;)
[20:05] <Kanerix> have you tried it? or are you not trying it because it's not listed?
[20:06] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  right.  I have tried it, it is not a recognized option
[20:06] <Kanerix> strange
[20:06] <_Marcus> What is the command to install GNU GMP, MPFR, and MPC?
[20:06] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  which is strange since error=remount-ro seems to be valid
[20:06] <Kanerix> I use it all the time
[20:06] <ox1de> is there a way to repair the root?
[20:06] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  I wonder if bind,ro,remount cannot be done on the same line
[20:06] <Kanerix> ox1de, only if you know where it was and you can find it again
[20:07] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, um why are you putting it in that order?
[20:07] <imbezol> kvgeorge1: are you working from an ubuntu system, or an install cd?
[20:07] <Kanerix> bind,remount,ro
[20:07] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  no reason....let me try your order
[20:07] <Kanerix> not sure that'll make a difference
[20:07]  * Kanerix shrugs
[20:07] <kvgeorge1> imbezol:  no, installed system
[20:07] <imbezol> mount --bind
[20:08] <goddard> can anyone answer this question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/121265/get-the-11-04-ubuntu-icon-back
[20:08] <KooolaNL> can anyone tell me how to install freenx ?
[20:08] <KooolaNL> when i try i see package missing
[20:08] <Kanerix> imbezol, he's trying to do it from ftsab
[20:08] <Kanerix> KooolaNL, have you googled it first?
[20:08] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  get this error when I do 'mount -a'  ->  mount: /snapshot not mounted already, or bad option
[20:09] <KooolaNL> kanerix yep
[20:09] <KooolaNL> stuck @ step 5
[20:09] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, well, see that's a clue right there
[20:09] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: if I remove the "remount" option, the error goes away
[20:09] <imbezol> Kanerix: hmm.. never seen a bind in an fstab
[20:10] <ebby> trivia
[20:10] <imbezol>                      /olddir /newdir none bind
[20:10] <imbezol> according to man page
[20:10] <Kanerix> imbezol, yeah he's trying to mount the bind read only
[20:10] <Kanerix> *as read only
[20:10] <Bndrr> a good screenshot for ubuntu ?
[20:11] <imbezol> "/olddir /newdir ro bind" ?
[20:11] <Kanerix> ro,bind
[20:11] <imbezol> actually.. nm... i see
[20:11] <Kanerix> ;)
[20:11] <imbezol> right.. the none is the fstype
[20:11] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:  I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!!!!
[20:11] <GirlyGirl> Bndrr: http://imagebin.org/207730
[20:12] <kvgeorge1> kanerix, imbezol:  needed to mount the drive using bind, THEN mount again using remount,ro
[20:12] <GirlyGirl> Bndrr: Why do you need a screenshot?
[20:12] <kvgeorge1> kanerix: imbezol:  new fstab looks like this: #mount /root/snapshot
[20:12] <kvgeorge1> /dev/sdb1	/root/snapshot	ext4	defaults	0	0
[20:12] <kvgeorge1> /root/snapshot	/snapshot	none	bind	0	0
[20:12] <kvgeorge1> /root/snapshot	/snapshot	none	remount,ro	0	0
[20:12] <imbezol> kanerix: kvgeorge1: so going back to the conversion we had earlier.. test what you just did.. because on my system setting a second mountpoint RO sets the original RO too
[20:13] <Bndrr> GirlyGirl, for do photos for my desktop :4example
[20:13] <vexaxv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1957490
[20:13] <vexaxv> anybody able to help me out?
[20:13] <kvgeorge1> kanerix:.....:(  yup - you are right.  mount still shows it as 'rw', but it is 'ro'  Dang!
[20:13] <Bndrr> GirlyGirl, what is that ¿ your paste.
[20:14] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, hah nice
[20:14] <Kanerix> imbezol, hah true enough
[20:14] <GirlyGirl> Bndrr: A screenshot ... of Kubuntu (KDE) actually
[20:14] <Bndrr> GirlyGirl, your desktop is similar as w7
[20:14] <craigbass1976> Ok, I type samba -version and get The program 'samba' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing...  Then I type apt-get install samba, and get samba is already the newest version blahblahblah.  Meh?
[20:14] <Kanerix> craigbass1976, smb
[20:14] <Bndrr> GirlyGirl, what programm yu usess ?
[20:14] <Kanerix> er
[20:14] <Kanerix> smbd
[20:14] <GirlyGirl> Bndrr: http://kubuntu.org
[20:15] <imbezol> kvgeorge1: and it's weird because you can set the original back to rw now.. and the bind mountpoint will stay ro
[20:15] <craigbass1976> Kanerix, aha...
[20:15] <Bndrr> im with lubuntu atm,lol
[20:15] <imbezol> kvgeorge1: it's kinda screwy
[20:15] <craigbass1976> Kanerix, samba is the client, no?
[20:15] <kvgeorge1> imbezol:  true that
[20:15] <Bndrr> i say the tool for to do the screenshots,pls.
[20:15] <cordoval> is there a tool to read back to you a ticket description over and over?
[20:15] <jigrap> how does one right click with a touchpad in ubuntu 12.04?
[20:16] <Kanerix> craigbass1976, smbclient or mount.cifs
[20:16] <meet> hi. i created a separate 20gb partition in windows to install ubuntu. so how do i select that while installing ubuntu
[20:17] <Bndrr> checking..
[20:17] <Kanerix> meet: you should see a 20GB partition in the installer...
[20:17] <Jordan_U> meet: Why did you create the partition from within Windows? It's easier to just let the installer do partitioning for you.
[20:17] <kvgeorge1> kanerix,imbezol:....finally got it this time (and tested it)....here is the new fstab: #mount /root/snapshot
[20:17] <kvgeorge1> /dev/sdb1	/root/snapshot	ext4	defaults	0	0
[20:17] <kvgeorge1> /root/snapshot	/snapshot	none	bind	0	0
[20:17] <kvgeorge1> /root/snapshot  /snapshot	none	bind,remount,ro	0	0
[20:17] <FloodBot1> kvgeorge1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <Kanerix> kvgeorge1, you really need to use pastebin
[20:17] <kvgeorge1> sorry
[20:17] <meet> jordan u now that i have done it
[20:18] <meet> what can i do
[20:18] <Kanerix> which is why I said to pastebin it the first time
[20:18] <Kanerix> floobots will kick you
[20:18] <Bndrr> xd
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Kanerix: Our floodbots are nice and will only quiet flodders :)
[20:19] <kvgeorge1> kaneirx:  so the trick was to mount the directory with 'bind' the first time, then mount again using 'bind,remount,ro'
[20:19] <Kanerix> Jordan_U ah alright
[20:19] <kvgeorge1> kanerix, imbezol:  thanks for all your assistance.....have a nice day
[20:20] <Kanerix> cheers
[20:21] <Jordan_U> meet: You will want two partitions for Ubuntu, one for '/' and one for swap. And since you didn't create an ext4 partition in Windows you're going to need to delete the partition you created at some point in the process. I would recommend that you simply delete the new partition (leaving the space free if you'd like) and then run Ubuntu's installer normally. You can also use the manual partitioning option to create the swap and root partitions ...
[20:21] <Jordan_U> ... manually from the space currently occupied by the new partition you created.
[20:22] <Nutily> Hello, how i can check if i have 64bit java installed?
[20:22] <ProgrammerKid> hi
[20:22] <ProgrammerKid> im a n00b at ubuntu i have been using it for 2 weeks
[20:23] <ProgrammerKid> so in reality im not that helpful sorry
[20:23] <ProgrammerKid> IM just on here to test my xchat irc
[20:23] <Jordan_U> ProgrammerKid: Please use ##test for that. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[20:23] <Nutily> ProgrammerKid, so good luck then.. :)
[20:23] <ProgrammerKid> im sorry, can i stay
[20:23] <skunkworks> random question..  Does anyone know if macs can create working symlinks on a samba server setup on ubuntu?
[20:23] <ProgrammerKid> i have some questions
[20:24] <Jordan_U> ProgrammerKid: Yes, just please keep your discussion to Ubuntu support.
[20:24] <ProgrammerKid> one is i have installed ubuntu and xubuntu in total combined around 10 times, i try to install either netbeans or skype and their are problems eventually
[20:24] <KooolaNL> anyone ?
[20:24] <ProgrammerKid> Jordan
[20:24] <ProgrammerKid> have an ideas
[20:24] <ubuntu-user> can someone help with multi touch?
[20:24] <LOLO> HOLAAAAAA
[20:24] <ProgrammerKid> or maybe you have a skype
[20:25] <KooolaNL> sudo apt-get install freenx
[20:25] <KooolaNL> package missing
[20:25]  * jordan wakes up, rolls over, goes back to sleep
[20:25] <KooolaNL> Reading state information... Done
[20:25] <KooolaNL> E: Couldn't find package freenx
[20:25] <KooolaNL> hello ?
[20:25] <ProgrammerKid> i also wanna start coding groovy, :D its simplified java, man at 13 im coding, when im older ima be a friggen geniues
[20:25] <ProgrammerKid> :D
[20:25] <ubuntu-user> can someone help me with multi touch?
[20:25] <KooolaNL> hello
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> lol no help...
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> man, ima try to find somepeople on skype
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> but oh wait
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> I DONT HAVE SKYPE ON UBUNTU XD
[20:26] <KooolaNL> ^ a funny
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> ima go
[20:26] <ProgrammerKid> bye
[20:27] <lo0m> wait guys, we dont have like 100 f#cking fingers :-)
[20:27] <imbezol> pretty sure a genius would have just apt-get installed skype
[20:27] <Jordan_U> lo0m: Please watch your language, obfuscated or not.
[20:27] <lo0m> Jordan_U: no prob
[20:27] <KooolaNL> hallo
[20:28] <HelenB> tsimpson, Are the FloodBot's in here yours too?
[20:28] <KooolaNL> how come i cant install Freenx guys ?
[20:28] <KooolaNL> anyone here with some tips
[20:28] <KooolaNL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:28] <tsimpson> HelenB: they are hosted by various people, but lets not talk about that in here
[20:28] <Bndrr> whats Freenx ?
[20:28] <HelenB> KooolaNL, No.
[20:28] <lo0m> KooolaNL: freenx is not in repos.. there should be DEBs somewhere
[20:28] <KooolaNL> step 5 =  Reading state information... Done
[20:28] <KooolaNL> E: Couldn't find package freenx
[20:29] <UtenteAnonimo90> buonasera a tutti , good evening for all !!!
[20:30] <Nutily> ProgrammerKid, so good luck then.. :)
[20:30] <KooolaNL> no help her :(
[20:30] <Nutily> How to check if i have 64bit java installed?
[20:30] <KooolaNL> here*
[20:30] <lo0m> KooolaNL: did you try adding that PPA mentioned on the wiki?
[20:30] <Bndrr> somone know a good alarm for ubuntu ??
[20:30] <KooolaNL> ppa ?
[20:31] <Bndrr> kalarm is to big
[20:31] <lo0m> KooolaNL: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:freenxx-team
[20:31] <KooolaNL> Nutily offcourse :P
[20:31] <KooolaNL> Reading state information... Done
[20:31] <KooolaNL> E: Couldn't find package freenx
[20:31] <KooolaNL> i did that
[20:31] <KooolaNL> hehe
[20:32] <Nutily> KooolaNL, can you realy help..?
[20:32] <ubuntu-user> can someone help me with multi touch?
[20:32] <ubuntu-user> can someone help me with trackpad multi touch?
[20:32] <KooolaNL> Nutily wat do u mean ?
[20:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu-user: Try describing the exact problem you're having.
[20:34] <KooolaNL> Nutily ?
[20:34] <KooolaNL> hello
[20:35] <KooolaNL> how am i going to get the freenx package
[20:35] <KooolaNL> hello Nutily are u still there
[20:35] <KooolaNL> :/ ?
[20:35] <Nutily> KooolaNL, i instaleed sun java 64 bit from bin and now it dosnt work
[20:35] <KooolaNL> ow
[20:35] <KooolaNL> lo
[20:36] <UtenteAnonimo90> there is italian ???
[20:36] <Nutily> KooolaNL, i think it dont work maybe it just dont work in chromium
[20:36] <guntbert> !it | UtenteAnonimo90
[20:36] <KooolaNL> it should work in ubuntu
[20:36] <guntbert> !enter | KooolaNL
[20:36] <k1ll3r> can someone help me?
[20:37] <lo0m> KooolaNL: so did you add the freenx ppa and did apt-get update?
[20:37] <KooolaNL> lo0m: yse
[20:39] <KooolaNL> step 3 gives me error tho
[20:39] <lo0m> https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa
[20:40] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: My standard alarm is this command: printf "mplayer %q\n" Music/Cobancat\ 1.flac | at 8:00 AM
[20:40] <lo0m> KooolaNL: there seems to be no such package.. did you mean freenx-server ?
[20:40] <Timsu> Hello why does git clone doesn´t work? it says clone: command not found?
[20:40] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, what music ?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Whatever audio file you want to play.
[20:41] <Bndrr> where can i put the fileaudio.mp3 in that command ?
[20:41] <KooolaNL> lo0m the tutorial says it without -server
[20:41] <Timsu> how i do make git clone?
[20:41] <KooolaNL> Reading state information... Done
[20:41] <KooolaNL> E: Couldn't find package freenx-server
[20:42] <lo0m> KooolaNL: there is freenx package, sorry... are you sure you did apt-get update?
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: printf "mplayer %q\n" /path/to/fileaudio.mp3 | at 8:00 AM
[20:43] <lo0m> KooolaNL: i tried it right now and sudo apt-cache search freenx shows positive match
[20:43] <Bndrr> i have installed vlc
[20:43] <hanstech> Hi All, I am trying to install Java Webservice developer kit. I tried with openjdk, sun-java with no success
[20:43] <Nutily> need help with installed sun java 64..
[20:43] <hanstech> any one can help me ?
[20:43] <Bndrr> can i change for printf "vlc %q\n" /path/to/fileaudio.mp3 | at 8:30 AM
[20:44] <Ska8erboi69> hi
[20:44] <Ska8erboi69> anybody here?
[20:44] <x010100x> hello
[20:45] <parto> hi
[20:45] <Ska8erboi69> anyone here a girl?
[20:45] <guntbert> Ska8erboi69: a lot :)  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:45] <Ska8erboi69> is anyone a girl
[20:45] <MrUnagi> Any way to run a script as root at boot
[20:45] <KooolaNL> lo0m yes i am sure
[20:45] <LjL> Ska8erboi69: that's not an Ubuntu support question, try again
[20:45] <HelenB> Ska8erboi69, I hope I am. :o
[20:46] <Ska8erboi69> soo koolanl your a gilr
[20:46] <Ska8erboi69> girl
[20:46] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, did u check my changes ?
[20:46] <lo0m> KooolaNL: that's really strange.. what ubuntu version are you using?
[20:46] <guntbert> !ot | Ska8erboi69
[20:46] <KooolaNL> i did the update thing again and now it seems to install it correctly
[20:46] <vexaxv> hey guys i need some help with a printer
[20:47] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Unfortunately no, because vlc by default needs to use a GUI, and commands run by at won't have the $DISPLAY environment variable properly set. You should be able to use cvlc, though.
[20:47] <avatarParto> Is there any way vlc can be incorporated in the sound menu?
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: And the more I think about this, while this solution works great for me you probably will be more happy with an actual alarm application.
[20:49] <innociv> http://pastie.org/3776492 What am I missing so I can communicate with paypal IPN?  if I telnet www.paypal.net 443 it just hangs.
[20:49] <innociv> unless i flush
[20:49] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, nope i like is simple and easy. just i need how it works,word by word. u there ?
[20:50] <guntbert> innociv: you cannot test https so easily
[20:50] <innociv> Well what do I need to do?  I'm not getting paypal IPN notifications
[20:52] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: "at" is a utility for scheduling commands to run at a specified time (see "man at"). It's similar to cron, except cron is used to schedule recurring tasks (like if you wanted an 8:00 AM alarm on all weekdays).
[20:52] <Bndrr> have i mplayer installed ? how can I see that ?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: It doesn't come installed by default, so probably not. "cvlc" should serve the same purpose though.
[20:53] <Bndrr> np. i want try with printf
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: The way you tell at what command to run is by sending that command to it via stdin (if you don't know what that is I'll explain more). The string that it gets via stdin is stored, and then at the specified time is executed using "sh".
[20:55] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, can i install with apt-get install mplayer ?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Yes.
[20:55] <Bndrr> is already installed
[20:56] <vexaxv> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrotherDriverPackaging ive got the lpr and cups drivers installed and that page shows the 440 cn is supported..so how do i get it to work?
[20:56] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, this msg Hour too large for AM. Last token seen: AM
[20:56] <Bndrr> Garbled time
[20:56] <Bndrr> printf "mplayer %q\n" /home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle Music.mp3 | at 22:59 AM
[20:57] <Bndrr> is PM ?
[20:57] <RealFart> are you all sick of niggers?
[20:57] <RealFart> I am!
[20:57] <RealFart> That is why I joined a forum
[20:57] <aeon-ltd> !ops | RealOpty
[20:57] <FloodBot1> RealFart: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <aeon-ltd> RealOpty: sorry
[20:57] <aeon-ltd> ops sorry
[20:57] <luis_> hola
[20:57] <luis_> !es
[20:57] <KooolaNL> supermercado
[20:57] <Bndrr> for me np. i dont understant very well
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: at uses 24 hour time by default, so if you prefer 24 hour time simply ommit the "AM" or "PM".
[20:58] <Bndrr> ok just the numbers
[20:58] <lo0m> Jordan_U: how do you "snooze" that quickly?
[20:58] <Bndrr> then warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[20:58] <Bndrr> job 1 at Thu Apr 12 22:59:00 2012
[20:59] <Bndrr> i was confused with GMT
[20:59] <Bndrr> luis_, hola
[20:59] <Jordan_U> lo0m: That's one of the main problems with the command that makes it not suitable for others. I either let the song play all the way through or "pkill mplayer" which is kind of ugly.
[21:00] <Bndrr> Jordan_U,  can I Close then mplayer automatically after the song ??
[21:00] <lo0m> Jordan_U: pkill cvlc doesnt seem to work, nor killing parent
[21:00] <luis_> Bndrr hola, ¿qué tal?
[21:00] <Bndrr> aquí estamos aprendiendo un poco.
[21:00] <luis_> jejeje, igual que yo
[21:00] <LjL> !es
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Mplayer will exit automatically when the song file finishes.
[21:01] <Bndrr> I tryied and doesnt work
[21:02] <Bndrr> what does it means commands will be executed using /bin/s )
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Because the string is executed by sh, we need to be careful to qoute things properly. For instance, in my example the filename had a space in it. If I had simply used "echo mplayer Music/Cobankat\ 1.flac | at 8:00" then at would have recieved the string "mplayer Music/Cobankat 1.flac" which when executed by sh would have told mplayer to play "Music/Cobankat" then "1.flac". printf %q tells printf to escape spaces, or any other characters which ...
[21:04] <Jordan_U> ... the shell might interpret specially.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: What is the exact command you ran?
[21:05] <Bndrr> printf "mplayer %q\n" /home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle Music.mp3 | at 23:03
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: You need to escape the space between 'JumpStyle' and 'Music.mp3'.
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: printf "mplayer %q\n" /home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle\ Music.mp3 | at 23:03
[21:07] <Bndrr> I deleted now.i go to try again (changing the song name and all)
[21:07] <Bndrr> too :)
[21:07] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Quoting the entire file path works as well, like: printf "mplayer %q\n" "/home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle Music.mp3" | at 23:03
[21:08] <Bndrr> I dont understant just this %q\n"
[21:09] <Bndrr> Jordan_U,  nop doesnt work for me
[21:09] <tanio> \n there is becouse whit this the output continued in the after line
[21:11] <Bndrr> Jordan_U,  zuser@ubuntu-laptop:~$ printf "mplayer %q\n" "/home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle\ Music.mp3" | at 23:11
[21:11] <Bndrr> warning: commands will be executed using /bin/sh
[21:11] <Bndrr> job 6 at Thu Apr 12 23:11:00 2012
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Try just "mplayer /path/to/file.mp3" (as in completely removing printf, at, and anything else).
[21:13] <Bndrr> Jordan_U, it works
[21:13] <Bndrr> and any realplayer around hmm
[21:14] <Bndrr> Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
[21:14] <Bndrr> AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)
[21:14] <Bndrr> Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: OK, what mplayer command works?
[21:14] <MohammadSyria> الأردن ؟
[21:14] <Bndrr> this without quotes mplayer /home/zuser/Música/JumpStyle\ Music.mp3
[21:16] <Jordan_U> !arabic | MohammadSyria
[21:16] <chillpill_>  Translation (ar|en): | MohammadSyria
[21:17] <Jordan_U> chillpill_: What do you mean by that comment?
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Let's continue this discussion in #bash.
[21:18] <vexaxv> hey guys need help i cant become root
[21:18] <Bndrr> Jordan_U,  really ?
[21:18] <vexaxv> it says authentication failure
[21:18] <Bndrr> am I accepted there ?
[21:19] <RickJames> tried google and the grub man page, as well as the html link posted here. attempting to change the default menu enrty on ubuntu 11.10 grub2 please advise
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Bndrr: Yes, the people in #bash are just smarter than me when it comes to shell scripting so they'll probably be able to help :)
[21:20] <lo0m> vexaxv: su root is disabled by deafult in ubuntu imho
[21:20] <vexaxv> lo0m how do i turn it on i need it on so i can install drivers for a printer of mine
[21:20] <Nach0z> vexaxv: just sudo su, it'll let you act as root
[21:20] <Nach0z> or sudo -i
[21:21] <Nach0z> whichever you prefer.
[21:21] <vexaxv> says unable to resolve host but it worked thanks
[21:21] <vexaxv> how do i resolve my host
[21:21] <Morpheus90> hello
[21:21] <MohammadSyria>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                <ubottu>        Thank you very much
[21:21] <Morpheus90> gelp me
[21:21] <Morpheus90> help me
[21:22] <Morpheus90> comand restart firefox?
[21:22] <vexaxv> and why is it sudo su now when i had ubuntu a long time ago u just typed sudo
[21:22] <Bndrr> nop, u re more smart
[21:22] <lo0m> Morpheus90: pkill firefox
[21:22] <lo0m> then start it again
[21:22] <Morpheus90> lo0m,  global kill?
[21:22] <Morpheus90> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[21:22] <Nach0z> vexaxv: you can sudo <command> to run the command as root, but sudo su will actually MAKE you root, so you don't have to do sudo in front of each command
[21:23] <Bndrr> pkill ff sount good
[21:23] <Bndrr> d*
[21:23] <Nach0z> Morpheus90: kill -9 $(pidof firefox-bin)
[21:23] <vexaxv> okay thanks, how do i resolve my host nach0z
[21:23] <Nach0z> vexaxv: what's the command that's telling you it can't resolve the host?
[21:23] <Morpheus90> kill all program
[21:23] <vexaxv> whenever i typed sudo su
[21:23] <squid> hello
[21:23] <vexaxv> or whenever i try to become root
[21:24] <Nach0z> vexaxv: ?
[21:24] <mac_> Hey, I'm not sure ho this works at all
[21:24] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to make an Ubuntu install "CD" USB drive from an OS other than Ubuntu?  As in, in Ubuntu there's the handy "Create USB Startup Disk" utility, but I'm wondering if I can accomplish the same thing from an OS X machine.
[21:24] <Nach0z> vexaxv: sudo su shouldn't be trying to resolve any kind of host...
[21:24] <mac_> but I have a questions. I'm using a Zenbook, and i'm trying to fix my suspend issue
[21:24] <vexaxv> idk..
[21:24] <vexaxv> i just typed sudo su
[21:24] <Morpheus90> Nach0z,  Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[21:24] <vexaxv> it said cannot resolve host
[21:24] <vexaxv> then password
[21:24] <Nach0z> Morpheus90: kill -9 $(pidof firefox)   maybe
[21:25] <mac_> I used the instructions posted here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook#Suspend
[21:25] <mac_> but it still doesnt work
[21:25] <Fyodorovna> tonyyarusso, you want to load a usb from apple?
[21:25] <Nach0z> vexaxv: just put in your password then when it asks for it, chances are it's another program that's unable to resolve the host
[21:25] <kbrosnan> Morpheus90: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Firefox%20is%20already%20running%20but%20is%20not%20responding#w_remove-the-profile-lock-file
[21:26] <squid> Nach0z...are there any iptables to worry about?
[21:26] <x010100x> hello, again
[21:26] <Nach0z> squid: what do you mean?
[21:26] <mac_> anyone help ??
[21:26] <tonyyarusso> Fyodorovna: Correct.  I have the ISO on my Mac, and want to put it on a USB stick to install to another machine.
[21:26] <dackyshawn> tonyyarusso: that's easy
[21:27] <Fyodorovna> tonyyarusso, here is one. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:27] <dackyshawn> sorry quit client by accident
[21:27] <dackyshawn> haha
[21:27] <x010100x> need help with setting up nagios on ubuntu, does any one have a good manual to make this but to monitoring cisco devices
[21:27] <tonyyarusso> Fyodorovna: thanks; didn't know that had an OS X version.  Silly me.
[21:27] <[Corp]> hi guys, any good new/updated guide/article on how to distribute ubuntu desktop unattended using pxe?
[21:27] <squid> iptables is the firewall builtin...you might have a rule there conflicting
[21:27] <dackyshawn> i tried nagios but ended up setteling on hobbit
[21:28] <vexaxv> so how do u resolve host in general??
[21:28] <tonyyarusso> x010100x: I can probably help you - is there a particular thing you're getting hung up on?
[21:28] <squid> do this command....sudo iptables -nvL
[21:28] <dackyshawn> cant disk utility on apple make clone the iso to a usb drive tonyyarusso
[21:28] <dackyshawn> and make it bootable
[21:28] <squid> vexaxv .... do this -> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:28] <squid> what are your name servers
[21:28] <squid> ?
[21:29] <tonyyarusso> dackyshawn: Maybe?  I'm not actually sure - OS X is just what I use for work; I don't actually know my way around it that well.
[21:29] <vexaxv> k i did
[21:29] <mac_> I have an Asus Zenbook, trying to fix my suspend issue.
[21:29] <vexaxv> it says name server and an ip
[21:29] <mac_> Anyone have an ideas or tips?
[21:29] <RickJames> tried google and the grub man page, as well as the html link posted here. attempting to change the default menu enrty on ubuntu 11.10 grub2 please advise
[21:29] <squid> is that IP address private or public?
[21:30] <squid> private IP addressess start with 10. 172.16 - 172.32 and 192.168
[21:30] <Morpheus90> ufffff all blocched
[21:32] <mac_> I have an Asus Zenbook, i'm trying to fix my suspend issue. Anyone have any help??
[21:32] <squid> vexaxv -> can you ping that ip address in the /etc/resolv.conf
[21:32] <buhman> where can I find out what ubuntu-specific patches have been applied to upstream software ?
[21:33] <squid> mac -> im assuming that thing has GUI...doesn't the gui has a settings panels or something where you can control the Power settings?
[21:33] <buhman> are there package-release changelogs?
[21:33] <mac_> @Squid, yes it has a power settings gui
[21:33] <mac_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook#Suspend has a post for help, I did the steps, but it still does not work
[21:34] <vexaxv> damn this is ridiculous to get a printer working on linux
[21:34] <[Corp]> is there any good new/updated guide/article on how to distribute ubuntu desktop unattended using pxe?
[21:34] <Nach0z> vexaxv: some printers aren't easy to get working with ubuntu, yeah
[21:35] <vexaxv> ive got a brother mfc 440 cn
[21:35] <Morpheus90> Nach0z,  help me please.. i'm have firefox blocched...
[21:35] <Morpheus90> ubuntu blocched
[21:35] <Morpheus90> uffffffff
[21:35] <Nach0z> Morpheus90: do this command: pidof firefox-bin
[21:35] <vexaxv> http://voices.yahoo.com/the-retail-detail-brother-releases-drivers-installer-7131276.html ive been using this guide but i cant get it to work
[21:35] <mac_> can ANYONe help me with my suspend issue??
[21:35] <Nach0z> tell me if it says anything
[21:35] <Nach0z> mac_: don't have a clue, sorry :/
[21:36] <mac_> lol thanks nach0z
[21:37] <Morpheus90> Nach0z,  no.... UBUNTU blocched...
[21:37] <Morpheus90> firefox, xchat, amsn
[21:37] <Nach0z> Morpheus90: I'm gonna need a little more information than that. are you able to open up a terminal window at least?
[21:38] <mac_> ok, well what about if im moving a file
[21:38] <mac_> but it says permission denied
[21:38] <Morpheus90> moment Nach0z
[21:38] <mac_> how do i stop that??
[21:38] <Nach0z> mac_: use sudo. lol. or, re-do the permissions of the file using chown
[21:39] <mac_> chown
[21:39] <mac_> I'm new to Linux, my professor told me about it in class yesterday and i've been full blast since
[21:39] <[Corp]> lulz
[21:40] <[Corp]> welcome
[21:40] <Nach0z> yes. chown. man chown to get a good detailed explanation on it
[21:40] <Nach0z> but for your issues it sounds like you want sudo
[21:40] <Onnonymous> mac_: about the suspend, could you try running /etc/pm/sleep.d/20_zenbook ? It should not give any output.
[21:40] <mac_> i made the file and placed it in the folder
[21:41] <Nach0z> mac_: ok. and you can't copy it somewhere else, right?
[21:41] <mac_> but it still basically doesn't wake up when i press suspend or close it
[21:41] <mac_> i think one problem may be, before i made it executable, I hae a 20_zenbook file in there also that's just there. I was thinking maybe if i deleted it, it would then work
[21:41] <vexaxv> ive got a red circle with a white dash in it at the top right of my screen
[21:41] <Onnonymous> mac_: have you made /etc/pm/sleep.d/20_zenbook executable? Try on a command line: ls -l /etc/pm/sleep.d/20_zenbook
[21:41] <vexaxv> says messed up package
[21:43] <Nach0z> vexaxv: open a terminal, do sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:43] <mac_> Onnonymous, do i nee d to be in root before doing that??
[21:44] <vexaxv> corey@Ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:44] <vexaxv> sudo: unable to resolve host Ubuntu
[21:44] <vexaxv> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:44] <vexaxv> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:44] <vexaxv> corey@Ubuntu:~$
[21:45] <mac_> it says ls invalid option
[21:45] <vexaxv> nm i got it
[21:45] <vexaxv> synpatic was open
[21:45] <Onnonymous> mac_: I'm not sure, just try and we'll see. ls -l gives a file listing including the permissions.
[21:45] <vexaxv> and thanks but it says nothing was upgraded removed or installed so why did i have to red icon
[21:46] <vexaxv> okay nach0z can u help me with this
[21:46] <vexaxv> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104 click im having issues installing the first link (i have a brother mfc 440 cn it IS on the supported for this driver list)
[21:47] <vexaxv> ive done everything it said
[21:47] <vexaxv> finished the whole thing
[21:47] <vexaxv> but i still cant print
[21:47] <mac_> it says -rw -r --r-- 1 root root 49
[21:47] <mac_> then gives time and that directory again
[21:49] <Morpheus90> Could not update ICEauthority file /home/gabriele/.ICEauthority
[21:49] <Morpheus90> why?
[21:49] <KooolaNL> nx is still not setupo
[21:50] <KooolaNL> cant get it working
[21:50] <monokrome> Anyone know where I can find the list of officual Ubuntu EC2 AMIs? This is broken: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ami/
[21:51] <mac_> I really like ubuntu, but hopefully i can get these tweaks
[21:51] <Onnonymous> mac_: The doc says "make it executable", so let's do that. The command is: chmod +x /etc/pm/sleep.d/20_zenbook
[21:51] <mac_> so that i can actually use it
[21:51] <mac_> thanks alot
[21:53] <Onnonymous> mac_: If you get an error message while doing that, try again with "sudo" in front of it, to have root permissions.
[21:53] <OomElvis> Q: how does ubuntu's mail thing work? like, with php i could send myself a mail to myusername@localhost
[21:53] <OomElvis> but theres no port 110 open on localhost
[21:53] <syddraf> Is there some utility that I can run a program through that will generate a memory-usage graph as it executes?
[21:53] <OomElvis> yet i can send myself a mail
[21:53] <mac_> ch
[21:54] <OomElvis> port 25 is open though
[21:54] <doffles> oomelvis, use mail -s "mail to self" myusername@localhost. type yr message. end with a . ( period ) on a line
[21:54] <Bndrr> OomElvis, a mail by web browser or by terminal ?
[21:54] <mac_> ok, it didn't say anything after doing it
[21:54] <OomElvis> Bndrr: terminal
[21:55] <mac_> I think that means it worked. Hopefully
[21:55] <Onnonymous> mac_: Try again: ls -l /etc/pm/sleep.d/20_zenbook, you should see some x'es.
[21:55] <doffles> check if sendmail daemon is running
[21:55] <OomElvis> doffles: i want to send a raw mail message with headers , base 64 encoded attachment ... could mail do that as well?
[21:56] <POMPINS_> Buonasera
[21:56] <mac_> Yeah it showed some x's and the path in green
[21:56] <Onnonymous> mac_: yes, usually no output is good output, like no news is good news ;-)
[21:56] <mac_> Ok good, I've been on this all day since installing it. My GF even got mad because she was trying to sleep. lol thanks for the help
[21:57] <Onnonymous> mac_: Try again to suspend your machine, to seee if it works.
[21:57] <doffles> oomelvis, you might want to uuencode
[21:57] <doffles> cat attachment | uuencode > mail
[21:58] <mac_> lets see if it does when i close it
[21:58] <Onnonymous> OomElvis: try "echo Blah blah | mutt -a attachment -s subject email@address.com"
[21:59] <lo0m> how do i reenable hibernate option in unity 12.04 ?
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> !12.04| lo0m
[21:59] <OomElvis> Onnonymous: cool, will do
[21:59] <POMPINS_> Onnonymous?
[22:01] <OomElvis> Onnonymous: cool, will try
[22:01] <tech936> ok anyone used blackubuntu
[22:01] <tech936> ?
[22:01] <zacktu> I am trying to create and format a partition; gParted says that it is already in use by the system.   It's not in fstab.  How can I find out what's going on?
[22:02] <BlueClaw> I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 last night but it installed it to one my external drives (making a partition). Windows cannot see the partition and the bootloader is not on the main drive so it just boots up to windows (7) still. Ideally I would like to move my windows from my ssd to the hdd and install Ubuntu on my ssd. Anyone know if there is a way to do that?
[22:02] <DeathTheKid> what is blackubuntu never heard of it
[22:03] <legasp> zacktu, it might still be mounted somehow... have you tried using gparted from a livecd ? just my 2 cents
[22:04] <legasp> i'm pretty sure you can get gparted on a livecd, if not I know puppy linux has it by default
[22:05] <POMPINS_> Qualcuno può darmi supporto in italiano?
[22:05] <DeathTheKid> last i checked gparted was in 10.04. the other ones I am not so sure about.
[22:06] <legasp> if it is, an ubuntu livecd would work for this too haha
[22:06] <zacktu> legasp: Yes, I've used the live cd also.   When I do that I can delete, create, and format the partition.   After that I can reboot ubuntu, and the partition is there, and the ubuntu gparted recognizes the partition.  I've installed the partition into fstab, but the next time I boot the partition is gone.
[22:06] <Myrtti> !it | POMPINS_
[22:07] <POMPINS_> Grazie mille.
[22:08] <legasp> hmm not really sure then.. I don't know much about fstab
[22:09] <xorpt> This annoying bug happens to me, someone please do the following to confirm it. Run Transmission, tile it to the right, the go to the workspace on the right and alt+tab. I get Transmission available on alt+tab even though it was opened on another workspace.
[22:09] <BlueClaw> Is it possible to migrate the "boot" files (I think they are paging files?) from one drive to another, so the OS (win7) can be moved from one drive to another?
[22:09] <xorpt> I'm running 12.04, but 11.10 or 11.04 will be fine I guess.
[22:10] <hanasaki> any word on fixing the openjdk-7 package that brings in openjdk6 and results in "java -version" returning v6?
[22:10] <finish06> BlueClaw, .... you can .
[22:10] <finish06> BlueClaw, wait ... you mean transfer grub-installer from drive A to drive B?  correct?
[22:13] <BlueClaw> finish06: no, incorrect. Rather I tried to install ubuntu but it only allowed me to install it to a single drive (an external hdd), I thought iwas t my internal hdd... (that is probably all irrelevant data) the main issue is that I want Ubuntu (12.04) on my ssd.
[22:13] <BlueClaw> edit:*thought I was on my*
[22:14] <Shinka> I'm looking for a good wireless router. I know absolutely nothing about networks: is there a better/worst kind for Linux or, as I suspect, it doesn't matter (it's the wireless card of my laptop that matters)?
[22:15] <finish06> BlueClaw, you just need to reinstall it.  is that going to be a problem?
[22:15] <BlueClaw> If I don't need the paging files that windows uses (and use a linux bootloader instead) then that would work, but not sure if that would work.
[22:16] <scientes> Shinka, does matter the slightest
[22:16] <finish06> Shinka, do you like to have fun with routers and do lots of stuff or do you want a basic "it works!"??
[22:16] <scientes> Shinka, all that matters is the wireless card (stay away from broadcom)
[22:16] <Shinka> scientes: OK!
[22:16] <Shinka> finish06: I like to have fun with things, software things, not routers :P
[22:17] <finish06> Shinka, look at one that is compatible with DD-WRT.   http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database
[22:17] <Shinka> finish06: OK thanks
[22:18] <finish06> Shinka, ... the first time I installed the DD-WRT firmware, I was worried I would "brick" my router, so to minimize this worry, I purchased it at BestBuy.  Then if I bricked it, I would just take it back to bestbuy and say, "It didn't work.. "  I need to return it.  HAHA
[22:19] <finish06> what is new in 12.04?
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !12.04 | finish06
[22:23] <finish06> O that is cool!  thanks Jordan_U
[22:23] <finish06> , but that doesn't say what is new
[22:24] <Jordan_U> finish06: No, but it does say that the correct channel for discussing what's new in 12.04 is #ubuntu+1.
[22:24] <finish06> o!  I missed that,  thanks!!!!!!!!
[22:26] <Jordan_U> finish06: You're welcome.
[22:27] <mac_> Thankns for all the help, it worked
[22:28] <sirknight> how do i open /etc/avahi/services? it terminal?
[22:30] <KooolaNL> sirknight i think cd /etc/avahi/services
[22:34] <sirknight> KooolaNL,  thanks
[22:35] <sirknight> avahi services how do i install ?
[22:38] <squid> hello root
[22:41] <jsaasch> hi
[22:41] <KooolaNL> sup
[22:44] <subrosa> Hey guys I'm trying to install from source but I get this error ./configure: error: C compiler gcc is not found
[22:45] <subrosa> anyone know what Im doing wrong?
[22:45] <squid> can anybody share a good site where I can read about the rc0 rc1 rc2 and all those run levels for the startup scripts.....
[22:45] <squid> if anybody know...please feel free to explain
[22:46] <thesheff17> squid, you want to use upstart...are you creating them?
[22:46] <squid> subrosa try this... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:47] <squid> thesheff17 thats correct.
[22:47] <squid> subrosa then do this...sudo apt-get install gcc
[22:48] <subrosa> That worked, thanks squid!
[22:48] <thesheff17> squid, this looks like a good start http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[22:48] <squid> thesheff17...thanks
[22:48] <thesheff17> there is also a book :) http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[22:49] <innociv> http://pastie.org/3776492 What am I missing so I can communicate with paypal IPN?  if I telnet www.paypal.net 443 it just hangs.
[22:50] <the_file> does any1 use hdmi on an amd card here
[22:52] <L3mce> Hi the_file what is the problem
[22:54] <brianp1992> how can i get specs on my mobo?
[22:55] <scientes> how do i make the Music, Movies, etc all link to somewhere else?
[22:55] <scientes> even when they are translated?
[22:55] <finish06> translated?
[22:55] <scientes> so i can put media on a hard drive, instead of SSD
[22:55] <jrib> scientes: use a symlink
[22:55] <scientes> finish06, Music, and Movies, get changed to Music, etc
[22:55] <scientes> jrib, but that doesn't deal with language changing
[22:56] <scientes> and direct XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR there
[22:56] <jrib> scientes: how so?  Maybe I don't understand what exactly you want to accomplish.  Anyway, those things are defined in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[22:57] <cuddylier1> hi
[22:57] <cuddylier1> How do I see in "ps x" command what process is using the most resources?
[22:58] <finish06> scientes, it doesn't matter if you use to original music/ movie/ etc. folder ... just go to where you music/ movies, etc are now and right click, and chose "create link"
[22:58] <thesheff17> cuddylier1, I use top
[22:58] <Kanerix> cuddylier1, this is why the process "top" was created
[22:58] <finish06> what is "ps x"
[22:58] <thesheff17> ps aux displays processes
[22:58] <scientes> finish06, i want to make it scripted, and work with new users, and users with differn't languages, etc
[22:58] <squid> I use htop which is a nicer interface than the traditional top
[22:59] <cuddylier1> How do I get out of top Kanerix ?
[22:59] <Kanerix> q
[22:59] <squid> q
[22:59] <finish06> oo!!!!  got ya, so you want it to link even though the words would be differe?
[22:59] <Kanerix> heh
[23:00] <cuddylier1> Is there anything here http://pastebin.com/1G8MpFdM I could stop as it is lagging my 16GB Intel i5 process server? I run a mincraft server on it. Kanerix
[23:00] <squid> CoilDomain ... how is the connection of Verizon FIOS over there in Tampa?
[23:00] <innociv> http://pastie.org/3776492 What am I missing with iptables so I can communicate with paypal IPN?  if I telnet www.paypal.net 443 it just hangs.  If I flush iptables it works.
[23:00] <jrib> scientes: what exactly do you want to happen?  Give a specific example please.
[23:00] <Kanerix> mono
[23:00] <CoilDomain> its really 30/25~
[23:00] <squid> show me your iptables -nvL
[23:00] <squid> Nice!!!!
[23:01] <KooolaNL> how do i go back 1 directory in unbuntu
[23:01] <KooolaNL> like cd.. in dos
[23:01] <cuddylier1> Is there anything here http://pastebin.com/1G8MpFdM I could stop as it is lagging my 16GB Intel i5 process server? I run a mincraft server on it. Kanerix
[23:01] <scientes> jrib, i think i am going to use the sticky bit. Anyways, 4 users, homes on SSDs, their media and downloads go the the hard drive, but they dont have to know that. if you create a new user and it asks "do you want to change the names of /Music, etc" then it will still work, and the same with new users
[23:01] <finish06> KooolaNL, "cd .."
[23:01] <scientes> jrib, seems like i could change that file in /etc/skel
[23:01] <KooolaNL> lol
[23:01] <KooolaNL> just cd.. but not connected
[23:01] <KooolaNL> thx
[23:02] <finish06> not connected :)
[23:02] <Boohbah> cuddylier1: ps -eo pmem,pcpu,rss,vsize,args | sort -k 1
[23:02] <scientes> and should i use ext4 or xfs jrib ?
[23:03] <jrib> scientes: the system-wide config is in /etc/xdg.  Though it seems like you can't avoid creating symlinks unless you don't care that the users won't have those directories available to them under their $HOME
[23:03] <jrib> scientes: when in doubt, go with default: ext4
[23:03] <cuddylier1> Boohbah: Here is the result http://pastebin.com/5ZtA4YHN
[23:03] <finish06> what is the benefit of xfs??
[23:04] <Boohbah> cuddylier1: looks like some java processes using your memory...
[23:04] <cuddylier1> Boohbah: How many is there? I may not need them all
[23:05] <L3mce> finish06: xfs is good for media storage. Its journaling system is unique for handling large streaming files.
[23:05] <Boohbah> McMyAdmin.exe
[23:05] <meisth0th> hello
[23:05] <PhonicUK> someone said McMyAdmin?
[23:05] <cuddylier1> Phonic!
[23:05] <PhonicUK> lo
[23:05] <cuddylier1> Yes...My server with 16GB RAM and i5 processor is lagging, PhonicUK
[23:05] <Boohbah> ahh, minecraft
[23:05] <meisth0th> quick question, if i install ubuntu 12.04 beta today, will my system be 12.04 stable with update when it's released?
[23:06] <cuddylier1> Yes :(
[23:06] <PhonicUK> cuddylier1, pop into #McMyAdmin on irc.esper.net
[23:06] <jrib> !final | meisth0th
[23:06] <cuddylier1> Boohbah: I stopped a Damaen process before and the lag on my server went instantly
[23:06] <cuddylier1> PhonicUK: Are you there?
[23:06] <PhonicUK> yes, and a bunch of other people who may be able to help
[23:06] <PhonicUK> its an active channe
[23:06] <meisth0th> jrib, thanks
[23:06] <finish06> L3mce, interesting!  that is why it is used in some media storages! that are found on xbmc forums :)
[23:07] <cuddylier1> Okay, good, with linux?
[23:07] <innociv> http://pastie.org/3776492 What am I missing with iptables so I can communicate with paypal IPN?  if I telnet www.paypal.net 443 it just hangs.  If I flush iptables it works.
[23:07] <PhonicUK> most people run it so yes
[23:07] <meisth0th> also, is it better for an end user to install 12.04 final beta now?
[23:07] <PhonicUK> afk
[23:07] <L3mce> cuddylier1: top will tell you what is eating your resources
[23:07] <squid> innociv -> please understand this...
[23:07] <innociv> Yes?
[23:07] <L3mce> !ubuntu+1 | meisth0th
[23:07] <Boohbah> http://wiki.bukkit.org/Main_Page  ?
[23:07] <cuddylier1> L3mce Yeah, it is some java processes
[23:08] <squid> oh ok..let me see the iptables first :)
[23:08] <L3mce> what have you installed recently that uses java? And does top tell you more specifically what the application is?
[23:08] <Boohbah> cuddylier1: Craftbukkit, to be exact
[23:08] <cuddylier1> L3mce But, I stopped a process before and my server lag went instantly
[23:09] <L3mce> so what?
[23:09] <L3mce> You want to do that every time, or figure out the problem?
[23:09] <Boohbah> L3mce: it's minecraft and associated software
[23:09] <L3mce> I dont know anything about that, sorry
[23:10] <cuddylier1> L3mce: http://pastebin.com/rDJYSmat Here is the result of top
[23:10] <L3top> I don't know anything about minecraft cuddylier1.
[23:10] <cuddylier1> L3mce I really want the problem sorted for good, my hardware isn't bad, it's a process somewhere that is useless and doesn't need to be running
[23:10] <squid> innociv -> i found your problem
[23:10] <cuddylier1> What is fibrelamp? L3top ?
[23:11] <L3top> I can't help you... back... back!
[23:11] <innociv> Oh?
[23:11]  * L3top beats with stick
[23:11] <squid> innociv -> -A INPUT -p tcp -j DROP
[23:11] <squid> do this instead...
[23:11] <squid> nslookup www.paypal.com
[23:12] <innociv> Right I want to drop everything that's not accepted.
[23:12] <squid> get paypal servers IPs and add them to your INPUT table
[23:12] <innociv> k
[23:12] <squid> dont Append!!!
[23:12] <squid> let me know if you need help
[23:12] <cuddylier1> Does anyone know any useless processes running here? http://pastebin.com/rDJYSmat
[23:13] <StepNjump> hi guys, my optical reader works on read but not on write. I tried GnomeBaker. Nothing works
[23:14] <innociv> That worked, squid, but i dont get why just opening 443 didn't.
[23:15] <L3top> StepNjump: chances are you have a bad burner. They are remarkably cheap, and a bit of you get what you pay for. Try burning on the slowest speeds possible... might be hit or miss. Might not burn at all anymore. They are notorious for going bad.
[23:17] <atifalhazmi> hi
[23:18] <atifalhazmi> how are you ?
[23:18] <squid> innociv -> any luck?
[23:19] <squid> if you need help creating the rules....just ask
[23:19] <innociv> Yes it worked by allowing the ips
[23:19] <innociv> i guess it answers back on port 80 or something
[23:19] <squid> excellent
[23:19] <o-sky> hi, i need to help... can someone help me?
[23:19] <squid> nah...
[23:20] <squid> o-sky -> whazzup?
[23:20] <squid> wow...a bunch people from Tampa, FL
[23:20] <squid> welcome
[23:21] <`Korvin> my sound stopped working>.<
[23:21] <`Korvin> says it's playing
[23:21] <`Korvin> nothing comes out
[23:21] <chilired> trying to get audio over hdmi working on a  nvidia 210
[23:22] <KooolaNL> thx
[23:22] <o-sky> squid,  I use fedora and am having problems in webcam ... I heard that ubuntu is better to recognize hardware, it worth changing just because of that?
[23:22] <chilired> mainly for xbmc, found a openelec howto, just wondering if I can use it to get things working in ubuntu
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> `Korvin: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds then try sound
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> o-sky: use a USB install and try it
[23:25] <pilotbub> ubuntu installer is seriously retarded
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> pilotbub: how so?
[23:26] <pilotbub> it says "replace lmde with ubuntu" but then if you click it it formats the whole drive
[23:27] <pilotbub> no root filesystem is defined what is this nonsense
[23:27] <pilotbub> classic linux
[23:28] <StepNjump> L3top: thank you. Well, I will try it under winxp. I am on a dboot system. It's almost like the burning apps dont find the burner. Lets say when I put a CD that was already burned, then it will recognize it but when I put in a blank one, nautilus doesn't load it up... is this normal?
[23:29] <o-sky> ActionParsnip, my webcam is not usb
[23:29] <StepNjump> BOXSPI903
[23:29] <Jordan_U> pilotbub: If you're using manual partitioning you need to set the mountpoint of whatever partition you want to be the root partition to '/'.
[23:29] <StepNjump> sorry for that
[23:29] <L3top> StepNjump: oh... that is different
[23:29] <StepNjump> Yes I know it's weird
[23:31] <pilotbub> now it needs a swap space
[23:31] <pilotbub> all for slower performance than win 8 hurrah
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> o-sky: it is connected to the USB bus
[23:32] <o-sky> my webcam is internal from laptop
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> o-sky: yes, it connects to the USB bus internally, run:  lsusb    and you will see it listed
[23:32] <L3top> Give it a try under win... then maybe try and burn it from cli with growisofs...
[23:32] <L3top> @StepNjump
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> o-sky: if you want to try ubuntu, you can use tools to put the install ISO on a USB stick and test it
[23:33] <pilotbub> LMDE wins the installer race I've had enough of this purple OS and I haven't even installed it
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> pilotbub: LMDE is also not supported here
[23:34] <vexaxv> hey guys after i ./configure make make install can i delete all the files i used in my downloads?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: I suggest you use checkinstall to make a deb of your binaries
[23:34] <bcuraboy> hi everyone.where can i find this package gir1.2-dee-0.5  ?????
[23:35] <StepNjump> yes? L3top
[23:35] <vexaxv> so instead of make install type checkinstall
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !checkinstall
[23:35] <vexaxv> oo thanks
[23:35] <vexaxv> :P
[23:35] <vexaxv> :D*
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: try searching http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:35] <StepNjump> any suggestion L3top
[23:36] <L3top> Give it a try under win... then maybe try and burn it from cli with growisofs...
[23:36] <vexaxv> so like i said after "make" i type "checkinstall"?
[23:36] <L3top> assuming that works there and not here
[23:36] <StepNjump> L3top: its like a driver issue
[23:36] <bcuraboy> it seems it's only available for oneiric
[23:36] <bcuraboy> :/
[23:36] <bcuraboy> no chance it might land in precise?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> bcuraboy: precise isn't supported here, ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:38] <vexaxv> after i run checkinstall and i get the deb it will already be installed right?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: the files will be in place but the package system doesn't know of it
[23:40] <vexaxv> so will i get a .deb in my downloads or what..and how will i uninstall it
[23:41] <ilmachico> ciao
[23:41] <ilmachico> !list
[23:41] <toraux_> Hopefully someone can help me - just built a media pc and have ubuntu on it... the wireless works fine when I start and usually 25 minutes to an hour after startup I get some heavy duty packet loss.  Rebooting usually fixes it
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: you will get a deb of the binaries you installed when you ran 'sudo make install'
[23:41] <whitneyandbobby> hey galen
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: it makes the files gel better with your OS as it is a package based OS
[23:42] <vexaxv> i ran checkinstall
[23:42] <vexaxv> but it said installing with make install
[23:43] <toraux_> anyone have any suggestions for identifying the cause of my wifi issues?
[23:45] <GeForce88> ubuntu 11.10. where is the screensaver feature and how do i enable screensavers and how do i get electric sheep to work ? all video drivers updated and installed.
[23:47] <cantonic_> hey guys. hope you can help me fixing a problem. the ssh connection to my ubuntu server breaks up and i cannot even ping it. have to restart and it works for some minutes and happens again
[23:47] <cantonic_> please help
[23:48] <danny_> hello i am using juli cloud witcth is based off ubuntu and uses the same monitors program and i am wondering if someone can point me in the right direction on how to fit my tv to dislpay my computer correctly righ tnow i can only see the middle of my screen and the rest is off the edges of the tv is there another aplication that will give me mroe options for resolutution ?
[23:55] <egghead> hey #ubuntu, anyone have any experience setting up a laptop w/ a docking station?
[23:55] <Delitor> in #it134
[23:55] <egghead> I've got a dell latitude e6420 that i'm trying to set up, it keeps crapping out when I try to configure it for dual monitors (it's got nvidia optimus too)
[23:56] <OerHeks> egghead optimus, check out bumblebee >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and the irc channel #Bumblebee those guys are up2date
[23:57] <egghead> thanks OerHeks, i'll try it out
[23:57] <OerHeks> it is still far from perfect, bumblebee still uses a double xorg
[23:57] <ignoredthoughts> how do i uninstall a driver for a laptop battery
[23:57] <ignoredthoughts> ?
[23:57] <ignoredthoughts> and will it automatically reinstall
[23:57] <egghead> OerHeks: do you know if I can use nvidia-settings w/ bumblebee?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: doesn't ironhide supercedee bumblebee?
[23:58] <finish06> i need to burn an windows 7 .iso to a DVD... what is the best way to do that in ubuntu???  i need to install windows7 on a laptop that has ATI graphics... :(
[23:58] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, i heard that before, but i am not sure it is ?
[23:58] <egghead> finish06: brasero?
[23:58] <JermBob> hey im still having trouble getting the new hard disks i have installed in my machine to show or be usable can someone help me ?
[23:58] <Quan_Quan> :)
[23:58] <OerHeks> egghead, yes you can switch
[23:58] <finish06> egghead, idk?  i have no idea what to use, that is why I was asking you all!!  :D
[23:59] <GeForce88> !eletricsheep
[23:59] <xxx---xxx> xchat or irssi?
[23:59] <GeForce88> !screensaver
[23:59] <Bndrr> hello. someone know how to close a port with nmap ??