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rbelemRiddell, startactive in kubuntu-active ppa00:25
rbelemRiddell, bulldog98_, i think that plasma-mobile 2.1 fixes the touch issues00:27
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Riddellug, I fear I might not be very functional today07:58
Riddellgot a cold and got a funeral to go to, not a great mix07:58
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apolRiddell: hey, I don't know if it's expected or what, but I have many "active" packages installed :S11:07
Riddellapol: kde-workspace split up recently, did you do a dist-upgrade?11:51
apolRiddell: yes...11:55
Riddellapol: is it causing any problems?11:55
apolno11:58
apolnot really no11:58
Riddellphew :)11:58
Riddellwell make sure to look out of that during upgrade testing then11:58
apolit just looked ugly, so I wondered if that was known/intentional11:58
RiddellI've not tested upgrade on it yet so indeed not known to me11:59
Riddellthe split is intentional but it would be best not to have the active bits installed if possible for desktop users11:59
rbelemRiddell, hi12:00
Riddellhi rbelem 12:01
rbelem:-)12:01
Riddellrbelem: I'm about to run off, needing something from me?12:01
rbelemRiddell, upload startactive :-)12:01
rbelemRiddell, i'm working on plasma-mobile 2.1, but it is not working yet12:02
Riddellrbelem: it's uploaded12:03
Riddellneeds approval from a release team member12:03
Riddellso ping ScottK or another member12:03
Riddellrbelem: is plasma-mobile 2.1 released?12:03
Riddellit's not on kde's ftpmaster12:04
RiddellScottK: I'm running off to a funeral, if you're around and can do the release team meeting that would be good12:04
rbelemRiddell, they said something in the mailing list about 2.1, i will look for it12:05
Riddellrbelem: on plasma-devel?12:07
rbelemRiddell, yup12:07
RiddellI can't see anything about 2.1 on plasma-devel or the active@kde.org mailing list12:09
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rbelemmgraesslin, ping13:20
mgraesslinrbelem: pong13:23
rbelemmgraesslin, i tested the kwinactive and it is working really nice :-)13:24
mgraesslingood13:25
rbelemmgraesslin, it is already in the repos13:25
mgraesslinany changes you have done to PA which needs to be upstreamed?13:25
rbelemmgraesslin, just that one that i shown to you, but already upstreamed13:26
mgraesslinwhich one?13:26
rbelemmgraesslin, and i had to backport from master to 4.8.213:26
rbelemmgraesslin, those ifdefs because of the xrender13:27
mgraesslinno, I mean changes to Plasma Active to pick kwin_active instead of kwin13:27
rbelemmgraesslin, just an one line patch13:28
mgraesslinwhere is it?13:28
rbelemreplacing kwin_gles by kwinactive_gles13:28
rbelemin startactive13:28
mgraesslinis there a review request for it?13:29
rbelemnot yet13:29
mgraesslinI cannot push the kwin patch without that one13:29
rbelemhum...13:29
rbelemmgraesslin, let me grab the patch13:29
yofelapol: from what I see there are no active binaries installed in a default system. Do you have kde-workspace-dev installed? That'll pull some in13:31
rbelemmgraesslin, http://paste.kde.org/456710/13:33
mgraesslinrbelem: could you please post a review request for it?13:33
rbelemmgraesslin, sure :-)13:33
apolyofel: yes13:35
ScottKJontheEchidna: If I check updates with the Muon updater window open and it finds new updates, it (as it should) places the updates available icon in the systray, but then when I install the updates from the already open updater window, the icon doesn't go away.  Seems like a bug.  Known?14:04
BluesKajHi folks14:20
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BluesKajI'm having problems with an /etc/init.d/rc.d  startup script ... it's not starting the service , altho I followed the readme instructions for invoking the script at startup.14:42
rbelemmgraesslin, here is the review request https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104590/15:06
rbelem:-)15:06
mgraesslincool15:06
mgraesslinand thanks15:06
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mgraesslinI'll send a mail to the active ml about it15:06
rbelemthanks mgraesslin 15:07
rbelem:-)15:07
afiestas_any help on this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101698909/buildlog.txt.gz15:13
afiestas_I think I have to add cyberspace ppa into the recipe15:13
afiestas_but dunno how to do that15:13
BluesKaji'll ask again, I'm having problems with an /etc/rcX.d  startup script ... it's not starting the service , altho I followed the readme instructions for invoking the script at startup. Is the /etc/rcX.d file the right place or have things changed?15:18
bulldog98afiestas_: for which ppa does the recipe builds?15:19
ScottKBluesKaj: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server.  Probably more people there that mess with that kind of thing.15:19
BluesKajok ScottK , I'll try there15:20
afiestas_bulldog98: https://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff15:28
bulldog98afiestas_: hm maybe you should ask in #launchpad they know lp better then us :)15:29
rbelemmgraesslin, i will update the PA patches to match what notmart said15:54
mgraesslinok15:55
bulldog98rbelem: ?16:31
rbelembulldog98, pong18:18
bulldog98rbelem: what PA patch?18:18
bulldog98and what’s PA?18:18
rbelembulldog98, plasma active18:19
rbelem:-)18:19
rbelembulldog98, does QT_FLUSH_PAINT=1 works for you?18:19
rbelemRiddell, ^18:19
bulldog98now that you said it :)18:19
rbelemyofel, ^18:19
rbelemafiestas, ^18:22
bulldog98rbelem: where to set?18:22
rbelembulldog98, cmdline `QT_FLUSH_PAINT=1 qmlviewer`18:23
bulldog98is /usr/bin/startactive ok?18:23
rbelembulldog98, yup18:23
rbelembulldog98, i think Riddell uploaded it18:23
rbelem:-018:23
rbelemops18:23
rbelem:-)18:23
bulldog98rbelem: what’s the patch about?18:25
afiestasrbelem: dunno waht that does18:26
rbelembulldog98, build kwin with a different name when enable it in cmake18:28
bulldog98ah that18:28
rbelemafiestas, it should flicker when repainting18:28
rbelemafiestas, bulldog98, http://aseigo.blogspot.com.br/2006/03/better-than-watching-paint-dry.html18:31
Ezimis dolphin animation bug well known?18:35
Ezimkde 4.8.218:35
bulldog98rbelem: I don’t see any difference18:39
rbelembulldog98, same here :-(18:41
rbelembulldog98, afiestas, it should do something like that http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/the-last-mile-effective-debugging-and-profiling-for-qt-and-qt-quick18:42
rbelem00:18:00 more or less18:43
bulldog98Riddell: why does calligraactive pulles in calligra{sheets,stage,words} ? that is not intended I’d say, since on active we don’t want the others installed18:44
bulldog98rbelem: btw active-settings work with touch18:45
rbelembulldog98, i think we cannot update plasma-active to 2.1 :-(18:46
bulldog98rbelem: why?18:46
rbelembulldog98, we will need  your patches18:46
bulldog98rbelem: for what?18:46
bulldog98get rid of kde 4.9 deps?18:46
rbelembulldog98, the touch issue18:47
bulldog98?????18:47
rbelembulldog98, the touch issues that you said in the about dialog18:47
bulldog98not only there18:47
rbelembulldog98, where more?18:48
bulldog98rbelem: browser18:48
rbelembulldog98, did you fixed that?18:48
rbelems/fixed/fix/18:48
bulldog98not yet, I had stuff to do for university today18:48
rbelembulldog98, oki18:48
* bulldog98 will try to fix that now18:49
rbelembulldog98, i dont have hardware to test18:49
bulldog98rbelem: who has hardware to test? (else than me)18:49
rbelem:-D18:52
rbelembulldog98, i think Quintasan_ and shadeslayer 18:52
bulldog98maybe we should try to get you hardware too18:52
rbelembulldog98, maybe bluesystems could sponsor me one :-D18:54
rbelembulldog98, afiestas, did you see the video?18:55
bulldog98rbelem: not yet, I’m trying to get rid of the touch problem18:55
rbelemoki18:56
bulldog98rbelem: I’ve got the feeling like the FlickableWebView.qml is causing all the touch trouble19:00
DarkwingStrange...19:01
DarkwingDo you guys use skype in the repository or, downloaded from the website?19:01
rbelemDarkwing, repository19:02
Darkwingahhh, okay. 19:03
DarkwingMaybe that's why it keeps marking it for uninstall.19:03
kabobOkay.  I was testing Samba connections through Dolphin.  I only happen to get a server timeout.  I can successfully connect to that share from a Windows computer.19:11
rbelemkabob, hum... so, the issue is only from linux to linux, right?19:13
kabobrbelem:  The share is hosted from WinXP.19:13
rbelemkabob, ah! ok19:14
rbelemkabob, i thought that it was another issue19:14
kabobIt also fails to open a share from Vista.19:15
kabobScratch that, It recognizes this machine on that network.19:16
kabobSo, no help with that then?19:50
bulldog98rbelem: hm the open-slx image runs without problems20:05
bulldog98so the problem must be on our side20:05
rbelembulldog98, :-/20:05
bulldog98rbelem: have you got a live session open?20:06
bulldog98btw our current iso doesn’t fully boot20:06
rbelembulldog98, yesterday was ok20:06
rbelembulldog98, i will download today image20:07
bulldog98rbelem: do we have the qml feedreader in the repro?20:09
rbelembulldog98, no idea20:16
JontheEchidnaScottK: yeah, known20:43
ScottKJontheEchidna: OK.  I won't file a bug then.  Please fix.  Highly annoying.20:43
JontheEchidnaugh, I'm still getting that glibc crash w/ Qt Creator :(20:47
yofelEzim: which animation bug?21:24
Ezimyofel, dolphin21:25
yofeland what's the bug?21:25
yofeldolphin works pretty fine for me21:25
Ezimyofel, animation when you max/min dolphin21:28
Ezimin 4.8.0 folders in dolphin and stuff could reorganized. 21:29
Ezim:) not end of the world but something missing21:29
EzimI have had almost no time to play with 4.8.1 and 4.8.2. 21:29
yofelI never really payed attention to the animation :/21:30
Ezimyofel, let me see if I find youtube clip.21:34
Ezimhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81PGq5zJG6Y   <<<--- yofel 21:36
yofelI'll look at it in a big21:36
yofel*bit21:36
EzimI think you will understand me better now21:36
yofelEzim: ah, the reodering isn't animated anymore?21:44
yofel*reordering21:44
Ezimyofel, exactly.21:44
Ezimwith 4.8.1 and 4.8.2 it have stopped working.21:44
yofelnoted, I'll see if I can find something later21:45
Ezimhttp://cristalinux.blogspot.se/2012/04/kde-sc-482-available.html21:47
Ezimyofel, this blogger have also noticed it21:47
yofelEzim: as dolphin 2.0.95 in neon has the same behaviour, I would say it's an upstream change, but I'll see if I can find some proof for that21:52
Ezimyofel, thx.21:54
Ezimwhat is the difference between kword and calligraword?21:56
yofelEzim: kword: koffice, calligraword: calligra21:57
yofelthe same thing really21:58
Ezimyofel, one of them have come with new release.21:58
yofelin precise kword is a transitional package that installs calligrawords21:58
Ezimyofel, okey. playing with calligrawords22:00
Ezimnice ui22:00
Ezimbut libreoffice still works better22:01
Ezimeven if libreoffice is much more buggy then openoffice was/is22:01
yofelEzim: yeah, it's an upstream change, but I would have to bisect the git history to tell you the exact commit. There are severl animation changes22:20
yofelfeel free to file a bug upstream22:20
Ezimyofel, okey. thx for the info. 22:21
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