[00:25] <rbelem> Riddell, startactive in kubuntu-active ppa
[00:27] <rbelem> Riddell, bulldog98_, i think that plasma-mobile 2.1 fixes the touch issues
[07:58] <Riddell> ug, I fear I might not be very functional today
[07:58] <Riddell> got a cold and got a funeral to go to, not a great mix
[11:07] <apol> Riddell: hey, I don't know if it's expected or what, but I have many "active" packages installed :S
[11:51] <Riddell> apol: kde-workspace split up recently, did you do a dist-upgrade?
[11:55] <apol> Riddell: yes...
[11:55] <Riddell> apol: is it causing any problems?
[11:58] <apol> no
[11:58] <apol> not really no
[11:58] <Riddell> phew :)
[11:58] <Riddell> well make sure to look out of that during upgrade testing then
[11:58] <apol> it just looked ugly, so I wondered if that was known/intentional
[11:59] <Riddell> I've not tested upgrade on it yet so indeed not known to me
[11:59] <Riddell> the split is intentional but it would be best not to have the active bits installed if possible for desktop users
[12:00] <rbelem> Riddell, hi
[12:01] <Riddell> hi rbelem 
[12:01] <rbelem> :-)
[12:01] <Riddell> rbelem: I'm about to run off, needing something from me?
[12:01] <rbelem> Riddell, upload startactive :-)
[12:02] <rbelem> Riddell, i'm working on plasma-mobile 2.1, but it is not working yet
[12:03] <Riddell> rbelem: it's uploaded
[12:03] <Riddell> needs approval from a release team member
[12:03] <Riddell> so ping ScottK or another member
[12:03] <Riddell> rbelem: is plasma-mobile 2.1 released?
[12:04] <Riddell> it's not on kde's ftpmaster
[12:04] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm running off to a funeral, if you're around and can do the release team meeting that would be good
[12:05] <rbelem> Riddell, they said something in the mailing list about 2.1, i will look for it
[12:07] <Riddell> rbelem: on plasma-devel?
[12:07] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[12:09] <Riddell> I can't see anything about 2.1 on plasma-devel or the active@kde.org mailing list
[12:10]  * Riddell out
[13:20] <rbelem> mgraesslin, ping
[13:23] <mgraesslin> rbelem: pong
[13:24] <rbelem> mgraesslin, i tested the kwinactive and it is working really nice :-)
[13:25] <mgraesslin> good
[13:25] <rbelem> mgraesslin, it is already in the repos
[13:25] <mgraesslin> any changes you have done to PA which needs to be upstreamed?
[13:26] <rbelem> mgraesslin, just that one that i shown to you, but already upstreamed
[13:26] <mgraesslin> which one?
[13:26] <rbelem> mgraesslin, and i had to backport from master to 4.8.2
[13:27] <rbelem> mgraesslin, those ifdefs because of the xrender
[13:27] <mgraesslin> no, I mean changes to Plasma Active to pick kwin_active instead of kwin
[13:28] <rbelem> mgraesslin, just an one line patch
[13:28] <mgraesslin> where is it?
[13:28] <rbelem> replacing kwin_gles by kwinactive_gles
[13:28] <rbelem> in startactive
[13:29] <mgraesslin> is there a review request for it?
[13:29] <rbelem> not yet
[13:29] <mgraesslin> I cannot push the kwin patch without that one
[13:29] <rbelem> hum...
[13:29] <rbelem> mgraesslin, let me grab the patch
[13:31] <yofel> apol: from what I see there are no active binaries installed in a default system. Do you have kde-workspace-dev installed? That'll pull some in
[13:33] <rbelem> mgraesslin, http://paste.kde.org/456710/
[13:33] <mgraesslin> rbelem: could you please post a review request for it?
[13:33] <rbelem> mgraesslin, sure :-)
[13:35] <apol> yofel: yes
[14:04] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: If I check updates with the Muon updater window open and it finds new updates, it (as it should) places the updates available icon in the systray, but then when I install the updates from the already open updater window, the icon doesn't go away.  Seems like a bug.  Known?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:42] <BluesKaj> I'm having problems with an /etc/init.d/rc.d  startup script ... it's not starting the service , altho I followed the readme instructions for invoking the script at startup.
[15:06] <rbelem> mgraesslin, here is the review request https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104590/
[15:06] <rbelem> :-)
[15:06] <mgraesslin> cool
[15:06] <mgraesslin> and thanks
[15:06] <mgraesslin> I'll send a mail to the active ml about it
[15:07] <rbelem> thanks mgraesslin 
[15:07] <rbelem> :-)
[15:13] <afiestas_> any help on this? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/101698909/buildlog.txt.gz
[15:13] <afiestas_> I think I have to add cyberspace ppa into the recipe
[15:13] <afiestas_> but dunno how to do that
[15:18] <BluesKaj> i'll ask again, I'm having problems with an /etc/rcX.d  startup script ... it's not starting the service , altho I followed the readme instructions for invoking the script at startup. Is the /etc/rcX.d file the right place or have things changed?
[15:19] <bulldog98> afiestas_: for which ppa does the recipe builds?
[15:19] <ScottK> BluesKaj: I'd ask in #ubuntu-server.  Probably more people there that mess with that kind of thing.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok ScottK , I'll try there
[15:28] <afiestas_> bulldog98: https://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff
[15:29] <bulldog98> afiestas_: hm maybe you should ask in #launchpad they know lp better then us :)
[15:54] <rbelem> mgraesslin, i will update the PA patches to match what notmart said
[15:55] <mgraesslin> ok
[16:31] <bulldog98> rbelem: ?
[18:18] <rbelem> bulldog98, pong
[18:18] <bulldog98> rbelem: what PA patch?
[18:18] <bulldog98> and what’s PA?
[18:19] <rbelem> bulldog98, plasma active
[18:19] <rbelem> :-)
[18:19] <rbelem> bulldog98, does QT_FLUSH_PAINT=1 works for you?
[18:19] <rbelem> Riddell, ^
[18:19] <bulldog98> now that you said it :)
[18:19] <rbelem> yofel, ^
[18:22] <rbelem> afiestas, ^
[18:22] <bulldog98> rbelem: where to set?
[18:23] <rbelem> bulldog98, cmdline `QT_FLUSH_PAINT=1 qmlviewer`
[18:23] <bulldog98> is /usr/bin/startactive ok?
[18:23] <rbelem> bulldog98, yup
[18:23] <rbelem> bulldog98, i think Riddell uploaded it
[18:23] <rbelem> :-0
[18:23] <rbelem> ops
[18:23] <rbelem> :-)
[18:25] <bulldog98> rbelem: what’s the patch about?
[18:26] <afiestas> rbelem: dunno waht that does
[18:28] <rbelem> bulldog98, build kwin with a different name when enable it in cmake
[18:28] <bulldog98> ah that
[18:28] <rbelem> afiestas, it should flicker when repainting
[18:31] <rbelem> afiestas, bulldog98, http://aseigo.blogspot.com.br/2006/03/better-than-watching-paint-dry.html
[18:35] <Ezim> is dolphin animation bug well known?
[18:35] <Ezim> kde 4.8.2
[18:39] <bulldog98> rbelem: I don’t see any difference
[18:41] <rbelem> bulldog98, same here :-(
[18:42] <rbelem> bulldog98, afiestas, it should do something like that http://qt-project.org/videos/watch/the-last-mile-effective-debugging-and-profiling-for-qt-and-qt-quick
[18:43] <rbelem> 00:18:00 more or less
[18:44] <bulldog98> Riddell: why does calligraactive pulles in calligra{sheets,stage,words} ? that is not intended I’d say, since on active we don’t want the others installed
[18:45] <bulldog98> rbelem: btw active-settings work with touch
[18:46] <rbelem> bulldog98, i think we cannot update plasma-active to 2.1 :-(
[18:46] <bulldog98> rbelem: why?
[18:46] <rbelem> bulldog98, we will need  your patches
[18:46] <bulldog98> rbelem: for what?
[18:46] <bulldog98> get rid of kde 4.9 deps?
[18:47] <rbelem> bulldog98, the touch issue
[18:47] <bulldog98> ?????
[18:47] <rbelem> bulldog98, the touch issues that you said in the about dialog
[18:47] <bulldog98> not only there
[18:48] <rbelem> bulldog98, where more?
[18:48] <bulldog98> rbelem: browser
[18:48] <rbelem> bulldog98, did you fixed that?
[18:48] <rbelem> s/fixed/fix/
[18:48] <bulldog98> not yet, I had stuff to do for university today
[18:48] <rbelem> bulldog98, oki
[18:49]  * bulldog98 will try to fix that now
[18:49] <rbelem> bulldog98, i dont have hardware to test
[18:49] <bulldog98> rbelem: who has hardware to test? (else than me)
[18:52] <rbelem> :-D
[18:52] <rbelem> bulldog98, i think Quintasan_ and shadeslayer 
[18:52] <bulldog98> maybe we should try to get you hardware too
[18:54] <rbelem> bulldog98, maybe bluesystems could sponsor me one :-D
[18:55] <rbelem> bulldog98, afiestas, did you see the video?
[18:55] <bulldog98> rbelem: not yet, I’m trying to get rid of the touch problem
[18:56] <rbelem> oki
[19:00] <bulldog98> rbelem: I’ve got the feeling like the FlickableWebView.qml is causing all the touch trouble
[19:01] <Darkwing> Strange...
[19:01] <Darkwing> Do you guys use skype in the repository or, downloaded from the website?
[19:02] <rbelem> Darkwing, repository
[19:03] <Darkwing> ahhh, okay. 
[19:03] <Darkwing> Maybe that's why it keeps marking it for uninstall.
[19:11] <kabob> Okay.  I was testing Samba connections through Dolphin.  I only happen to get a server timeout.  I can successfully connect to that share from a Windows computer.
[19:13] <rbelem> kabob, hum... so, the issue is only from linux to linux, right?
[19:13] <kabob> rbelem:  The share is hosted from WinXP.
[19:14] <rbelem> kabob, ah! ok
[19:14] <rbelem> kabob, i thought that it was another issue
[19:15] <kabob> It also fails to open a share from Vista.
[19:16] <kabob> Scratch that, It recognizes this machine on that network.
[19:50] <kabob> So, no help with that then?
[20:05] <bulldog98> rbelem: hm the open-slx image runs without problems
[20:05] <bulldog98> so the problem must be on our side
[20:05] <rbelem> bulldog98, :-/
[20:06] <bulldog98> rbelem: have you got a live session open?
[20:06] <bulldog98> btw our current iso doesn’t fully boot
[20:06] <rbelem> bulldog98, yesterday was ok
[20:07] <rbelem> bulldog98, i will download today image
[20:09] <bulldog98> rbelem: do we have the qml feedreader in the repro?
[20:16] <rbelem> bulldog98, no idea
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: yeah, known
[20:43] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: OK.  I won't file a bug then.  Please fix.  Highly annoying.
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> ugh, I'm still getting that glibc crash w/ Qt Creator :(
[21:24] <yofel> Ezim: which animation bug?
[21:25] <Ezim> yofel, dolphin
[21:25] <yofel> and what's the bug?
[21:25] <yofel> dolphin works pretty fine for me
[21:28] <Ezim> yofel, animation when you max/min dolphin
[21:29] <Ezim> in 4.8.0 folders in dolphin and stuff could reorganized. 
[21:29] <Ezim> :) not end of the world but something missing
[21:29] <Ezim> I have had almost no time to play with 4.8.1 and 4.8.2. 
[21:30] <yofel> I never really payed attention to the animation :/
[21:34] <Ezim> yofel, let me see if I find youtube clip.
[21:36] <Ezim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81PGq5zJG6Y   <<<--- yofel 
[21:36] <yofel> I'll look at it in a big
[21:36] <yofel> *bit
[21:36] <Ezim> I think you will understand me better now
[21:44] <yofel> Ezim: ah, the reodering isn't animated anymore?
[21:44] <yofel> *reordering
[21:44] <Ezim> yofel, exactly.
[21:44] <Ezim> with 4.8.1 and 4.8.2 it have stopped working.
[21:45] <yofel> noted, I'll see if I can find something later
[21:47] <Ezim> http://cristalinux.blogspot.se/2012/04/kde-sc-482-available.html
[21:47] <Ezim> yofel, this blogger have also noticed it
[21:52] <yofel> Ezim: as dolphin 2.0.95 in neon has the same behaviour, I would say it's an upstream change, but I'll see if I can find some proof for that
[21:54] <Ezim> yofel, thx.
[21:56] <Ezim> what is the difference between kword and calligraword?
[21:57] <yofel> Ezim: kword: koffice, calligraword: calligra
[21:58] <yofel> the same thing really
[21:58] <Ezim> yofel, one of them have come with new release.
[21:58] <yofel> in precise kword is a transitional package that installs calligrawords
[22:00] <Ezim> yofel, okey. playing with calligrawords
[22:00] <Ezim> nice ui
[22:01] <Ezim> but libreoffice still works better
[22:01] <Ezim> even if libreoffice is much more buggy then openoffice was/is
[22:20] <yofel> Ezim: yeah, it's an upstream change, but I would have to bisect the git history to tell you the exact commit. There are severl animation changes
[22:20] <yofel> feel free to file a bug upstream
[22:21] <Ezim> yofel, okey. thx for the info.