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jo-erlendhehe, at the very least, I guess I got some attention to the fact that the classic desktop is called Gnome Panel and not Gnome 2 :)04:08
jo-erlendwoops. Wrong channel :)04:09
bkerensajo-erlend: :P05:01
bkerensajo-erlend: next one should be Gnome 3 vs Unity05:01
jo-erlendbkerensa, I guess maybe you mean Gnome Shell? :)05:02
bkerensajo-erlend: Sure Gnome Shell05:02
jo-erlendI'm not sure I want to do that. Because no matter how hard I tried, Gnome Shell wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance. And I don't want to demote it, because that would only create more anger and division in the community.05:27
jo-erlendI could do a mouse-only comparison though. But the next time, I'll let others define the tasks. :)05:28
dholbachgood morning06:57
forestpiskiemorning dholbach07:00
bkerensahi dholbach07:03
dholbachhi forestpiskie, bkerensa07:03
forestpiskieat least it is a good morning - sun is shining, birds are singing and cat is winding me right up07:04
bkerensaforestpiskie: very quiet and dark here :D07:05
forestpiskie:) I guessed from your blog that you was over the side of the sea bkerensa07:05
bkerensaI wish I was on ther other side :D07:05
bkerensaperhaps in Germany like dholbach07:05
* bkerensa is a fan of german sausage and kraut07:06
bkerensa;p07:06
* forestpiskie is a fan of food 07:06
bkerensawell yeah that too :)\07:06
huatsmorning !07:16
jo-erlendis it just me, or is archive.ubuntu.com extremely slow now?07:45
czajkowskimorning07:46
czajkowski2 weeks to release and latest updates have left me with no dekstop on boot up, great start to the day  :(07:49
czajkowskihas nobody heard of testing >:(07:49
bkerensaczajkowski: :(08:09
dpmgood morning all, sorry to hear that czajkowski, I wished the Friday would have started out better :/08:12
czajkowskime too08:13
czajkowskidoing more updates08:13
czajkowskiseem to be stuck in a loop08:13
czajkowski2nd time this week technology fail08:13
czajkowskifirst time I got locked outta all systems by 2 factor auth as I had generated too many keys08:13
dpmhave you tried with a mirror?08:13
czajkowskiwaht do you mean ?08:14
dpmif archive.u.c is not responsive, perhaps choosing a mirror might be more responsive08:14
czajkowskiahh08:15
czajkowskino it's pulling down updates alright08:15
czajkowskiI just need to find a usb key to get the log off machine and to seb08:15
czajkowskitalk about arseways to start a day08:15
dpmah right08:15
bkerensaomg :( launchpad is taking forever to update a diff preview08:19
bkerensadpm: translations coming along good?08:33
bkerensa:D08:33
czajkowskistop breakint lp08:34
czajkowski*breaking08:34
czajkowskiI can only deal with one broken thing at a time08:34
dpmbkerensa, translations are always good! ;-)08:35
czajkowskiwhoo and we're all back :D08:41
bkerensadpm: I wish we could have got one final thing in to you guys but next time it seems ;)08:42
dpmbkerensa, no worries. We should also make sure localised images are uploaded, I'll send an e-mail to the docs list08:45
s-fox'lo all.09:03
s-fox*yawns*09:03
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czajkowskinigelb: pig12:57
czajkowskibah12:59
czajkowskinigelb: *PING*12:59
czajkowskinot the animal12:59
czajkowskigod lord12:59
nigelbheh13:00
nigelbczajkowski: pong13:00
nigelbI did that to my boss the other day :P13:00
czajkowskinigelb: is this team activehttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-andhrapradesh13:02
nigelbI don't think so. I haven't heard anything about them.13:03
nigelbAt least not on the ubuntu-in lists.13:03
nothingspecialczajkowski: I had someone asking me about getting that team going again earlier13:15
nothingspecialis that a team you would like to become more active czajkowski ?13:19
czajkowskinigelb: hmmm ok thanks13:21
czajkowskinothingspecial: nope just asking about it in general thanks13:21
nothingspecialok13:22
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dpmmhall119, dholbach or anyone else, do you know of any projects that might be worth hightlighting in the Software Center banners?14:07
dpmWe've already had Openshot in the past14:07
dpmI'm thinking of the Full Circle Magazine14:07
dpmCalligra, etc.14:07
dpmdoes anyone have any ideas for cool apps to highlight?14:07
dholbachCrack Attack! or Hugin :)14:09
jo-erlend_... The "Contact this team" function on Launchpad... Is it brand new? I've received lots of mail like that the last few days, and I don't think I've ever seen that before.14:11
mhall119dpm: maybe the new music scopes?14:13
dpmdholbach, what's Crack Attack!14:15
dpm?14:16
dpmthanks dholbach, mhall11914:16
czajkowskijo-erlend_: nope not new14:16
dholbachdpm, sudo apt-get install crack-attack && crack-attack14:16
czajkowskijust been updated and it's been blogged/fb/G+/Twitteed and dented14:16
dholbachdpm, see you in a few hours :-P14:16
czajkowskiand still people don't seem to know about it14:16
jo-erlend_why isn't it being sent to the mailinglist?14:17
czajkowskijo-erlend_: http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/contacting-teams-is-easier-and-more-reliable14:17
czajkowskibecause it's not a mailing list :)14:17
czajkowskiyou're contacting the team not joinging the mailing list14:17
jo-erlend_oh, by the way. Can I send emails to a list I'm subscribed to using any mail address I have registered to LP?14:20
czajkowskijo-erlend_: nope just the one you've signed up with to the list, unless you are using the contact this team feature14:22
jo-erlend_Hmm. I thought I'd start using the ubuntu.com address. I'm on quite a few lists. Perhaps someone can automate it?14:23
czajkowskijo-erlend_: why not just go in and change your settings easily14:24
jo-erlend_czajkowski?14:24
cjohnstonjo-erlend_: change what email address you are subscribed under14:26
cjohnstonoff to work..14:27
jo-erlend_cjohnston, how?14:27
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bkerensadpm: Openshot :D14:33
bkerensaOpenPhoto*14:33
dpmbkerensa, ok looking at OpenPhoto, thanks :)14:34
bkerensadpm: Let me know if you need any info14:34
dpmbkerensa, I guess it's not this one, is it? -> http://openphoto.net/ :)14:35
bkerensadpm: openphoto.me and theopenphotoproject.org14:35
bkerensa:)14:35
dpmyeah, I guessed right, then :)14:35
dpmis it open source?14:35
* dpm researches14:35
bkerensadpm: yes14:36
bkerensaWe are open source14:36
dpmcool, and more importantly, already packaged?14:36
mhall119dpm: is david calle's tutorial ready to publish?14:36
dpmwe can only highlight apps you can download from the Software Center in the banner14:37
bkerensadpm: Not yet but since I just joined the team I am working on a juju charm and hopefully get it packaged soon14:37
czajkowskijo-erlend_: launchpad.net/~/+editemails14:37
bkerensathe project is very pro Ubuntu right now :P14:37
czajkowskichange them in one go14:37
bkerensahttps://github.com/openphoto <-- fork us14:37
dpmbkerensa, cool. You should use Launchpad for translations, too! I read on that page that you're looking for a translations platform, so why not take one that's already there with thousands of translators? ;)14:38
bkerensadpm: :P I will have to talk to them about that since we use github (unfortunately for vcs and issue tracking)14:38
mhall119bkerensa: you can have your git branch auto-imported into LP+bzr I think14:39
dpmbkerensa, I know, I noticed, but you don't have to use Launchpad's code hosting to use it for translations, so it wouldn't require changing anything :)14:39
dpmcorrect14:39
bkerensahuh14:40
dpmyou can use vcs imports, or you can just use Launchpad Translations without code imports (with code imports works better, though)14:40
bkerensacool I will pass it along to the project lead14:41
dpmmhall119, yes, it should be ready to publish, but give me a few mins to look at it, I haven't touched since we last talked about it14:41
bkerensaI am hoping to find someone possibly on the U1 team who might be interested in giving us some heads up on integrating the openphoto backend to support U1 as a storage source14:42
dpmbkerensa, just hop onto #ubuntuone and ask there, you can ping sil, and he'll definitely help you :)14:43
bkerensak14:43
dpmthere is a tutorial on d.u.c on Ubuntu One integration too:14:44
czajkowskic14:44
dpmhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/practical-ubuntu-one-files-integration14:44
mhall119dpm: is there any way to specify the order of the left-side links on the developer portal's resources page?14:44
dpmmhall119, I don't think so, I seem to remember they were sorted alphabetically, and the weight field in the WP posts was ignored14:45
mhall119darn14:45
dholbachhey, do we have a team call today? is Jono around?14:45
mhall119dholbach: he's on vacation, but we can still hangout14:45
mhall119I don't have anything to demo though14:45
balloons^^14:45
balloonswhat he said14:46
dholbachI'm working on something I might demo one day :)14:46
mhall119dpm: I moved the Unity docs around on the developer portal like we had talked about14:46
czajkowskinew mixes please dholbach14:46
dholbachmhall119, does the category_order have to be specified right at the start? or can it be "dynamic"?14:46
mhall119I also added links to the 12.04 APIs14:46
dpmmhall119, ack, cool, thanks14:46
dholbachczajkowski, http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/ is all I have right now :)14:46
mhall119dholbach: if you don't define it, Singlet will set it, but there's no guarantee of their display order that way14:47
dholbachczajkowski, but yes, I wanted to do a new one on the WE14:47
czajkowskidholbach: they're rather handy for the gym and going for walks14:47
mhall119and it can't be changed without restarting unity14:47
dholbachmhall119, as long as the right stuff ends up in the right category I'm happy with that :)14:47
dpmmhall119, balloons, jcastro, balloons, do you guys still want to hang out? I don't have anything to demo this week, so I'm happy either skipping or joining in14:47
mhall119+1 for hanging out14:48
dpmok, let's do it then :)14:50
dholbachczajkowski, I'm glad you like them :)14:51
czajkowskialternative between that and salsa/zumba music14:52
mhall119dpm: dholbach, jcastro, balloons: invite sent14:54
balloonswoot14:54
balloonswhoa.. g+ so weird14:55
bkerensaballoons: it is Unity14:55
bkerensa:P14:55
dpmmhall119, how do you install the quickly lens template?14:56
dpm(joining the hangout in a few mins)14:57
mhall119dpm: apt-get install quickly-unity-lens-template14:57
dpmmhall119, cool, thanks. Adding this info to the tutorial15:00
bodhi_zazenJust a quick follow through re: migrating tutorials from Forums -> wiki15:29
bodhi_zazenThe Forms community is in general supportive of the change, and some of the detractors are now supportive15:29
bodhi_zazenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11840820&postcount=13415:29
bkerensa;015:29
bodhi_zazenOngoing discussions from time to time in #ubuntuforums and #ubuntu-wiki and it is on the FC agenda if anyone wishes to comment https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda15:30
bodhi_zazen'lo bkerensa15:30
bkerensaHello15:30
dpmmhall119, I've started doing some modifications on http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true - one of the things that I noticed is that we should probably have code samples in LP rather than in a pastebin as in the tutorial. I think it might be worth having a 'ubuntuappdevelopers-examples' project in LP to contain all code samples. What do you think?15:45
mhall119dpm: isn't there a project for the devportal already?15:49
mhall119we can just host a branch under there15:49
dpmmhall119, yeah, but it's rather for the site: ubuntudeveloperportal - I'm not sure whether it will be confusing to add a completely unrelated branch there15:50
* dholbach hugs czajkowski and james_w15:51
mhall119dpm: I'm okay with having a new project15:52
mhall119maybe a shorter name though15:52
mhall119lp:ubuntuappdevelopers-examples/foo is kind of long15:52
* czajkowski hugs dholbach 15:52
dpmsure, a shorter name sounds good15:53
dholbachjames_w, High Contrast tomorrow! :)15:54
james_wwoop!15:55
dholbachyeah, should be good :)15:56
jcastrodholbach: dpm: balloons: mhall119: ah bah, sorry I wasn't around for the hangout16:08
jcastroI was dark all morning catching up on stuff16:08
balloonsno worries maye16:08
balloons*mate16:08
jcastroand figured we wouldn't have one, should have asked16:08
jcastromhall119: hey are you on the UDS planning trello?16:11
mhall119jcastro: looks like it16:17
jcastromhall119: ok16:17
mhall119you're assigning me work, aren't you16:17
jcastromhall119: how can I schedule meetings via that new thingie you were talking about?16:18
jcastromhall119: no I just want to make sure you know what I am scheduling, etc. and why16:18
mhall119jcastro: you don't schedule them, you can create and propose them16:18
jcastrowhen you see sessions in certain spots, etc.16:18
jcastromhall119: ah ok, where do I do that?16:18
mhall119scheduling is still handled the same as blueprint sessions16:18
jcastrook16:18
mhall119jcastro: go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/16:18
jcastroso schedule as normal via lp and then ... ?16:19
mhall119there's a "Create a meeting" link in the top-right of the page16:19
mhall119wait what?16:19
mhall119this is only for non-blueprint sessions16:19
mhall119jcastro: you want to schedule an existing BP session in a specific place?16:20
jcastroyes16:20
jcastroon Tuesday16:20
jcastrosorry I was confusing you16:20
jcastrolet me start over16:20
mhall119jcastro: does http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit work for you?16:20
jcastromhall119: I can see the page but not move boxes16:33
dholbachalrightie, I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone16:37
nigelbg'nite dholbach16:37
jcastromhall119: also, the schedule displays for me when I'm logged into that page16:49
jcastrobut the sessions don't seem to show up on the track page?16:49
nothingspecialcprofitt: do you mind joining #ubuntu-wiki and clearing up the wiki.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com thing there please16:56
nothingspecialif you've got a minute that is cprofitt16:56
nothingspecialnever mind cprofitt, bkerensa has done it16:57
jcastromhall119: remember my permissions got reset, so I might need to be readded16:58
jcastromhall119: I'd like to schedule the plenaries, that's why I ask16:58
czajkowskinothingspecial: hasn't this been covered at least twice this week one is for colaboration and anyone can add stuff to and one is offical docs17:04
nothingspecialdon't worry czajkowski, I was struggling to explain so I came to the community for help17:05
nothingspecialit's all sorted now17:05
czajkowskifair enough17:06
czajkowskiAn introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-featur17:06
czajkowskiAn introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-feature17:06
cprofittczajkowski: they were not getting confused between help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community... but help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com17:17
cprofittit is all clear now though.17:17
mhall119jcastro: I've added you to the schedule changers group, you should be able to scheduule stuff now17:27
jcastrook17:27
jcastromhall119: ok I just need the URL to do that17:28
jcastromhall119: I can schedule plenaries this way I hope?17:28
mhall119jcastro: should be able to, yes17:31
mhall119jcastro: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit to edit Tuesday17:31
jcastromhall119: ok so is there a button I am  missing or something?17:31
jcastrolet's say I want to schedule something on the first plenary slit17:32
jcastroI ... ?17:32
mhall119jcastro: you drag the session from the right-side into the first plenary slot17:45
jcastroah that might be the problem17:45
jcastroI'm not getting a sidebar17:45
mhall119are you logged in?17:46
jcastroyeah17:46
mhall119as jcastro?17:47
mhall119dpm: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/17:47
mhall119you might need to ctrl+refresh17:48
jcastromhall119: my lp id is "jorge"17:48
mhall119ok, that's the account I gave permissions to17:48
jcastroheh17:49
mhall119jcastro: do you have javascript disabled or something?17:49
jcastrono17:49
jcastroI've tried in both chrome and FF, no sidebar17:49
mhall119jcastro: if you go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?, do you see "Edit" in the subnav?17:49
jcastronope17:50
mhall119jcastro: try logging out and back in17:51
jcastronope17:52
jcastroalso, I am using 2 factor auth (I don't know if that means anything17:52
mhall119to log into summit?17:52
jcastroyeah17:52
mhall119it shouldn't matter, if you're logged in it should work the same17:52
jcastroI have the 2 factor auth thing turned on17:52
jcastroyeah I didn't think it would, was just trying to add more info17:53
mhall119if your nick is in the white bar at the top, Summit knows who you are and should give you the right perms17:53
jcastrook I have to go ship swag to contributors17:53
jcastroand you know how the UPS store can get17:53
mhall119cjohnston: can you edit the schedule for uds-q?17:53
jcastroso hope to be back in 6017:53
mhall119jcastro: ok17:53
jcastromhall119: I perhaps am not in the right groups17:53
jcastroiirc I was reset back to "normal" last time17:53
mhall119jcastro: I checked, you are in the right groups17:53
jcastrok17:54
dpmmhall119, oh man, I was expecting to just see some links rearranged, but that's absolutely stunning, good work!17:57
mhall119:)18:02
mhall119getting those boxes right was a royal pain in the butt though18:05
dpmmhall119, I can imagine, I haven't had a look at it, but I guess you've edited html code in Wordpress, which is a royal pain in itself :)18:12
mhall119I actually had to override css styles on the elements themselves18:13
dpmugh :)18:13
mhall119the css to build it is in home.css, which is only available from the Home template, nor Resource Child :(18:14
dpmOne thing I've noticed is that the image in the middle is smaller than the others. I think it'd look visually more consistent if the 3 were of the same size. Do you have another image with the same size as the others, or one that you can resize?18:14
mhall119so I had to pick those bits out, and undo some stuff that resource_child.css was putting it18:14
dpmouch18:15
mhall119yeah, the only good screenshot I could find of the 11.10 dash wasn't the same dimensions as the others18:15
dpmperhaps resizing it with gimp might get a good result?18:15
mhall119I'd have to crop off some of the left or right side to make it the same18:16
dpmor perhaps just change the height. It being so small probably the distorsion won't be noticeable18:17
mhall119I tried that, it was pretty noticable18:17
dpmah well, perhaps for another iteration, for now I think it looks pretty awesome enough :-)18:20
dpmmhall119, ok, I've done some edits on the tutorial and I think it's now ready to publish. I didn't get to set up the Launchpad code sample project, but I didn't want to keep blocking. Does it look ok to you and ready to publish? -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true18:22
mhall119dpm: looks good to me18:23
mhall119dpm: I cropped the right side off the 11.10 image, looks better now18:28
dpmah, cool18:29
dpmthanks for checking out the post, I've published it now, time to start promoting the hell out of it ;)18:36
dpmok, everyone feel free to upvote http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/s8boa/how_to_create_a_wikipedia_unity_lens_for_ubuntu, retweet @ubuntuappdev, share it on g+, FB and basically fill the internets with unity lenses and app development love ;-)18:45
dpmNice to see the first comment on the blog post, too: "Amazing! This is just amazing!" :-)18:46
mhall119dpm: are you going to replace the featured tutorial, or do you want me to do that?18:49
dpmmhall119, ah, good point. I think I'm going to call it a day in a minute, so if you want to change it, please feel free to. Otherwise I can have a look at it on Monday18:50
dpmand now time to call it a day, have a nice weekend everyone!18:56
mhall119jcastro: do you have access to the "Ubuntu" page on G+?19:24
mhall119oh, nvm, dpm must have posted it already19:24
jcastromhall119: I don't, I only have access to the juju and -cloud ones21:21
cjohnstonLeadership Summit is scheduled for Tuesday and Thursday afternoons during UDS21:37

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