[04:08] <jo-erlend> hehe, at the very least, I guess I got some attention to the fact that the classic desktop is called Gnome Panel and not Gnome 2 :)
[04:09] <jo-erlend> woops. Wrong channel :)
[05:01] <bkerensa> jo-erlend: :P
[05:01] <bkerensa> jo-erlend: next one should be Gnome 3 vs Unity
[05:02] <jo-erlend> bkerensa, I guess maybe you mean Gnome Shell? :)
[05:02] <bkerensa> jo-erlend: Sure Gnome Shell
[05:27] <jo-erlend> I'm not sure I want to do that. Because no matter how hard I tried, Gnome Shell wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance. And I don't want to demote it, because that would only create more anger and division in the community.
[05:28] <jo-erlend> I could do a mouse-only comparison though. But the next time, I'll let others define the tasks. :)
[06:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:00] <forestpiskie> morning dholbach
[07:03] <bkerensa> hi dholbach
[07:03] <dholbach> hi forestpiskie, bkerensa
[07:04] <forestpiskie> at least it is a good morning - sun is shining, birds are singing and cat is winding me right up
[07:05] <bkerensa> forestpiskie: very quiet and dark here :D
[07:05] <forestpiskie> :) I guessed from your blog that you was over the side of the sea bkerensa
[07:05] <bkerensa> I wish I was on ther other side :D
[07:05] <bkerensa> perhaps in Germany like dholbach
[07:06]  * bkerensa is a fan of german sausage and kraut
[07:06] <bkerensa> ;p
[07:06]  * forestpiskie is a fan of food 
[07:06] <bkerensa> well yeah that too :)\
[07:16] <huats> morning !
[07:45] <jo-erlend> is it just me, or is archive.ubuntu.com extremely slow now?
[07:46] <czajkowski> morning
[07:49] <czajkowski> 2 weeks to release and latest updates have left me with no dekstop on boot up, great start to the day  :(
[07:49] <czajkowski> has nobody heard of testing >:(
[08:09] <bkerensa> czajkowski: :(
[08:12] <dpm> good morning all, sorry to hear that czajkowski, I wished the Friday would have started out better :/
[08:13] <czajkowski> me too
[08:13] <czajkowski> doing more updates
[08:13] <czajkowski> seem to be stuck in a loop
[08:13] <czajkowski> 2nd time this week technology fail
[08:13] <czajkowski> first time I got locked outta all systems by 2 factor auth as I had generated too many keys
[08:13] <dpm> have you tried with a mirror?
[08:14] <czajkowski> waht do you mean ?
[08:14] <dpm> if archive.u.c is not responsive, perhaps choosing a mirror might be more responsive
[08:15] <czajkowski> ahh
[08:15] <czajkowski> no it's pulling down updates alright
[08:15] <czajkowski> I just need to find a usb key to get the log off machine and to seb
[08:15] <czajkowski> talk about arseways to start a day
[08:15] <dpm> ah right
[08:19] <bkerensa> omg :( launchpad is taking forever to update a diff preview
[08:33] <bkerensa> dpm: translations coming along good?
[08:33] <bkerensa> :D
[08:34] <czajkowski> stop breakint lp
[08:34] <czajkowski> *breaking
[08:34] <czajkowski> I can only deal with one broken thing at a time
[08:35] <dpm> bkerensa, translations are always good! ;-)
[08:41] <czajkowski> whoo and we're all back :D
[08:42] <bkerensa> dpm: I wish we could have got one final thing in to you guys but next time it seems ;)
[08:45] <dpm> bkerensa, no worries. We should also make sure localised images are uploaded, I'll send an e-mail to the docs list
[09:03] <s-fox> 'lo all.
[09:03] <s-fox> *yawns*
[12:57] <czajkowski> nigelb: pig
[12:59] <czajkowski> bah
[12:59] <czajkowski> nigelb: *PING*
[12:59] <czajkowski> not the animal
[12:59] <czajkowski> god lord
[13:00] <nigelb> heh
[13:00] <nigelb> czajkowski: pong
[13:00] <nigelb> I did that to my boss the other day :P
[13:02] <czajkowski> nigelb: is this team activehttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-andhrapradesh
[13:03] <nigelb> I don't think so. I haven't heard anything about them.
[13:03] <nigelb> At least not on the ubuntu-in lists.
[13:15] <nothingspecial> czajkowski: I had someone asking me about getting that team going again earlier
[13:19] <nothingspecial> is that a team you would like to become more active czajkowski ?
[13:21] <czajkowski> nigelb: hmmm ok thanks
[13:21] <czajkowski> nothingspecial: nope just asking about it in general thanks
[13:22] <nothingspecial> ok
[14:07] <dpm> mhall119, dholbach or anyone else, do you know of any projects that might be worth hightlighting in the Software Center banners?
[14:07] <dpm> We've already had Openshot in the past
[14:07] <dpm> I'm thinking of the Full Circle Magazine
[14:07] <dpm> Calligra, etc.
[14:07] <dpm> does anyone have any ideas for cool apps to highlight?
[14:09] <dholbach> Crack Attack! or Hugin :)
[14:11] <jo-erlend_> ... The "Contact this team" function on Launchpad... Is it brand new? I've received lots of mail like that the last few days, and I don't think I've ever seen that before.
[14:13] <mhall119> dpm: maybe the new music scopes?
[14:15] <dpm> dholbach, what's Crack Attack!
[14:16] <dpm> ?
[14:16] <dpm> thanks dholbach, mhall119
[14:16] <czajkowski> jo-erlend_: nope not new
[14:16] <dholbach> dpm, sudo apt-get install crack-attack && crack-attack
[14:16] <czajkowski> just been updated and it's been blogged/fb/G+/Twitteed and dented
[14:16] <dholbach> dpm, see you in a few hours :-P
[14:16] <czajkowski> and still people don't seem to know about it
[14:17] <jo-erlend_> why isn't it being sent to the mailinglist?
[14:17] <czajkowski> jo-erlend_: http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/contacting-teams-is-easier-and-more-reliable
[14:17] <czajkowski> because it's not a mailing list :)
[14:17] <czajkowski> you're contacting the team not joinging the mailing list
[14:20] <jo-erlend_> oh, by the way. Can I send emails to a list I'm subscribed to using any mail address I have registered to LP?
[14:22] <czajkowski> jo-erlend_: nope just the one you've signed up with to the list, unless you are using the contact this team feature
[14:23] <jo-erlend_> Hmm. I thought I'd start using the ubuntu.com address. I'm on quite a few lists. Perhaps someone can automate it?
[14:24] <czajkowski> jo-erlend_: why not just go in and change your settings easily
[14:24] <jo-erlend_> czajkowski?
[14:26] <cjohnston> jo-erlend_: change what email address you are subscribed under
[14:27] <cjohnston> off to work..
[14:27] <jo-erlend_> cjohnston, how?
[14:33] <bkerensa> dpm: Openshot :D
[14:33] <bkerensa> OpenPhoto*
[14:34] <dpm> bkerensa, ok looking at OpenPhoto, thanks :)
[14:34] <bkerensa> dpm: Let me know if you need any info
[14:35] <dpm> bkerensa, I guess it's not this one, is it? -> http://openphoto.net/ :)
[14:35] <bkerensa> dpm: openphoto.me and theopenphotoproject.org
[14:35] <bkerensa> :)
[14:35] <dpm> yeah, I guessed right, then :)
[14:35] <dpm> is it open source?
[14:35]  * dpm researches
[14:36] <bkerensa> dpm: yes
[14:36] <bkerensa> We are open source
[14:36] <dpm> cool, and more importantly, already packaged?
[14:36] <mhall119> dpm: is david calle's tutorial ready to publish?
[14:37] <dpm> we can only highlight apps you can download from the Software Center in the banner
[14:37] <bkerensa> dpm: Not yet but since I just joined the team I am working on a juju charm and hopefully get it packaged soon
[14:37] <czajkowski> jo-erlend_: launchpad.net/~/+editemails
[14:37] <bkerensa> the project is very pro Ubuntu right now :P
[14:37] <czajkowski> change them in one go
[14:37] <bkerensa> https://github.com/openphoto <-- fork us
[14:38] <dpm> bkerensa, cool. You should use Launchpad for translations, too! I read on that page that you're looking for a translations platform, so why not take one that's already there with thousands of translators? ;)
[14:38] <bkerensa> dpm: :P I will have to talk to them about that since we use github (unfortunately for vcs and issue tracking)
[14:39] <mhall119> bkerensa: you can have your git branch auto-imported into LP+bzr I think
[14:39] <dpm> bkerensa, I know, I noticed, but you don't have to use Launchpad's code hosting to use it for translations, so it wouldn't require changing anything :)
[14:39] <dpm> correct
[14:40] <bkerensa> huh
[14:40] <dpm> you can use vcs imports, or you can just use Launchpad Translations without code imports (with code imports works better, though)
[14:41] <bkerensa> cool I will pass it along to the project lead
[14:41] <dpm> mhall119, yes, it should be ready to publish, but give me a few mins to look at it, I haven't touched since we last talked about it
[14:42] <bkerensa> I am hoping to find someone possibly on the U1 team who might be interested in giving us some heads up on integrating the openphoto backend to support U1 as a storage source
[14:43] <dpm> bkerensa, just hop onto #ubuntuone and ask there, you can ping sil, and he'll definitely help you :)
[14:43] <bkerensa> k
[14:44] <dpm> there is a tutorial on d.u.c on Ubuntu One integration too:
[14:44] <czajkowski> c
[14:44] <dpm> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/practical-ubuntu-one-files-integration
[14:44] <mhall119> dpm: is there any way to specify the order of the left-side links on the developer portal's resources page?
[14:45] <dpm> mhall119, I don't think so, I seem to remember they were sorted alphabetically, and the weight field in the WP posts was ignored
[14:45] <mhall119> darn
[14:45] <dholbach> hey, do we have a team call today? is Jono around?
[14:45] <mhall119> dholbach: he's on vacation, but we can still hangout
[14:45] <mhall119> I don't have anything to demo though
[14:45] <balloons> ^^
[14:46] <balloons> what he said
[14:46] <dholbach> I'm working on something I might demo one day :)
[14:46] <mhall119> dpm: I moved the Unity docs around on the developer portal like we had talked about
[14:46] <czajkowski> new mixes please dholbach
[14:46] <dholbach> mhall119, does the category_order have to be specified right at the start? or can it be "dynamic"?
[14:46] <mhall119> I also added links to the 12.04 APIs
[14:46] <dpm> mhall119, ack, cool, thanks
[14:46] <dholbach> czajkowski, http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/ is all I have right now :)
[14:47] <mhall119> dholbach: if you don't define it, Singlet will set it, but there's no guarantee of their display order that way
[14:47] <dholbach> czajkowski, but yes, I wanted to do a new one on the WE
[14:47] <czajkowski> dholbach: they're rather handy for the gym and going for walks
[14:47] <mhall119> and it can't be changed without restarting unity
[14:47] <dholbach> mhall119, as long as the right stuff ends up in the right category I'm happy with that :)
[14:47] <dpm> mhall119, balloons, jcastro, balloons, do you guys still want to hang out? I don't have anything to demo this week, so I'm happy either skipping or joining in
[14:48] <mhall119> +1 for hanging out
[14:50] <dpm> ok, let's do it then :)
[14:51] <dholbach> czajkowski, I'm glad you like them :)
[14:52] <czajkowski> alternative between that and salsa/zumba music
[14:54] <mhall119> dpm: dholbach, jcastro, balloons: invite sent
[14:54] <balloons> woot
[14:55] <balloons> whoa.. g+ so weird
[14:55] <bkerensa> balloons: it is Unity
[14:55] <bkerensa> :P
[14:56] <dpm> mhall119, how do you install the quickly lens template?
[14:57] <dpm> (joining the hangout in a few mins)
[14:57] <mhall119> dpm: apt-get install quickly-unity-lens-template
[15:00] <dpm> mhall119, cool, thanks. Adding this info to the tutorial
[15:29] <bodhi_zazen> Just a quick follow through re: migrating tutorials from Forums -> wiki
[15:29] <bodhi_zazen> The Forms community is in general supportive of the change, and some of the detractors are now supportive
[15:29] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11840820&postcount=134
[15:29] <bkerensa> ;0
[15:30] <bodhi_zazen> Ongoing discussions from time to time in #ubuntuforums and #ubuntu-wiki and it is on the FC agenda if anyone wishes to comment https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[15:30] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo bkerensa
[15:30] <bkerensa> Hello
[15:45] <dpm> mhall119, I've started doing some modifications on http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true - one of the things that I noticed is that we should probably have code samples in LP rather than in a pastebin as in the tutorial. I think it might be worth having a 'ubuntuappdevelopers-examples' project in LP to contain all code samples. What do you think?
[15:49] <mhall119> dpm: isn't there a project for the devportal already?
[15:49] <mhall119> we can just host a branch under there
[15:50] <dpm> mhall119, yeah, but it's rather for the site: ubuntudeveloperportal - I'm not sure whether it will be confusing to add a completely unrelated branch there
[15:51]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski and james_w
[15:52] <mhall119> dpm: I'm okay with having a new project
[15:52] <mhall119> maybe a shorter name though
[15:52] <mhall119> lp:ubuntuappdevelopers-examples/foo is kind of long
[15:52]  * czajkowski hugs dholbach 
[15:53] <dpm> sure, a shorter name sounds good
[15:54] <dholbach> james_w, High Contrast tomorrow! :)
[15:55] <james_w> woop!
[15:56] <dholbach> yeah, should be good :)
[16:08] <jcastro> dholbach: dpm: balloons: mhall119: ah bah, sorry I wasn't around for the hangout
[16:08] <jcastro> I was dark all morning catching up on stuff
[16:08] <balloons> no worries maye
[16:08] <balloons> *mate
[16:08] <jcastro> and figured we wouldn't have one, should have asked
[16:11] <jcastro> mhall119: hey are you on the UDS planning trello?
[16:17] <mhall119> jcastro: looks like it
[16:17] <jcastro> mhall119: ok
[16:17] <mhall119> you're assigning me work, aren't you
[16:18] <jcastro> mhall119: how can I schedule meetings via that new thingie you were talking about?
[16:18] <jcastro> mhall119: no I just want to make sure you know what I am scheduling, etc. and why
[16:18] <mhall119> jcastro: you don't schedule them, you can create and propose them
[16:18] <jcastro> when you see sessions in certain spots, etc.
[16:18] <jcastro> mhall119: ah ok, where do I do that?
[16:18] <mhall119> scheduling is still handled the same as blueprint sessions
[16:18] <jcastro> ok
[16:18] <mhall119> jcastro: go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/
[16:19] <jcastro> so schedule as normal via lp and then ... ?
[16:19] <mhall119> there's a "Create a meeting" link in the top-right of the page
[16:19] <mhall119> wait what?
[16:19] <mhall119> this is only for non-blueprint sessions
[16:20] <mhall119> jcastro: you want to schedule an existing BP session in a specific place?
[16:20] <jcastro> yes
[16:20] <jcastro> on Tuesday
[16:20] <jcastro> sorry I was confusing you
[16:20] <jcastro> let me start over
[16:20] <mhall119> jcastro: does http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit work for you?
[16:33] <jcastro> mhall119: I can see the page but not move boxes
[16:37] <dholbach> alrightie, I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone
[16:37] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach
[16:49] <jcastro> mhall119: also, the schedule displays for me when I'm logged into that page
[16:49] <jcastro> but the sessions don't seem to show up on the track page?
[16:56] <nothingspecial> cprofitt: do you mind joining #ubuntu-wiki and clearing up the wiki.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com thing there please
[16:56] <nothingspecial> if you've got a minute that is cprofitt
[16:57] <nothingspecial> never mind cprofitt, bkerensa has done it
[16:58] <jcastro> mhall119: remember my permissions got reset, so I might need to be readded
[16:58] <jcastro> mhall119: I'd like to schedule the plenaries, that's why I ask
[17:04] <czajkowski> nothingspecial: hasn't this been covered at least twice this week one is for colaboration and anyone can add stuff to and one is offical docs
[17:05] <nothingspecial> don't worry czajkowski, I was struggling to explain so I came to the community for help
[17:05] <nothingspecial> it's all sorted now
[17:06] <czajkowski> fair enough
[17:06] <czajkowski> An introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-featur
[17:06] <czajkowski> An introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-feature
[17:17] <cprofitt> czajkowski: they were not getting confused between help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community... but help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com
[17:17] <cprofitt> it is all clear now though.
[17:27] <mhall119> jcastro: I've added you to the schedule changers group, you should be able to scheduule stuff now
[17:27] <jcastro> ok
[17:28] <jcastro> mhall119: ok I just need the URL to do that
[17:28] <jcastro> mhall119: I can schedule plenaries this way I hope?
[17:31] <mhall119> jcastro: should be able to, yes
[17:31] <mhall119> jcastro: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit to edit Tuesday
[17:31] <jcastro> mhall119: ok so is there a button I am  missing or something?
[17:32] <jcastro> let's say I want to schedule something on the first plenary slit
[17:32] <jcastro> I ... ?
[17:45] <mhall119> jcastro: you drag the session from the right-side into the first plenary slot
[17:45] <jcastro> ah that might be the problem
[17:45] <jcastro> I'm not getting a sidebar
[17:46] <mhall119> are you logged in?
[17:46] <jcastro> yeah
[17:47] <mhall119> as jcastro?
[17:47] <mhall119> dpm: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/
[17:48] <mhall119> you might need to ctrl+refresh
[17:48] <jcastro> mhall119: my lp id is "jorge"
[17:48] <mhall119> ok, that's the account I gave permissions to
[17:49] <jcastro> heh
[17:49] <mhall119> jcastro: do you have javascript disabled or something?
[17:49] <jcastro> no
[17:49] <jcastro> I've tried in both chrome and FF, no sidebar
[17:49] <mhall119> jcastro: if you go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?, do you see "Edit" in the subnav?
[17:50] <jcastro> nope
[17:51] <mhall119> jcastro: try logging out and back in
[17:52] <jcastro> nope
[17:52] <jcastro> also, I am using 2 factor auth (I don't know if that means anything
[17:52] <mhall119> to log into summit?
[17:52] <jcastro> yeah
[17:52] <mhall119> it shouldn't matter, if you're logged in it should work the same
[17:52] <jcastro> I have the 2 factor auth thing turned on
[17:53] <jcastro> yeah I didn't think it would, was just trying to add more info
[17:53] <mhall119> if your nick is in the white bar at the top, Summit knows who you are and should give you the right perms
[17:53] <jcastro> ok I have to go ship swag to contributors
[17:53] <jcastro> and you know how the UPS store can get
[17:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: can you edit the schedule for uds-q?
[17:53] <jcastro> so hope to be back in 60
[17:53] <mhall119> jcastro: ok
[17:53] <jcastro> mhall119: I perhaps am not in the right groups
[17:53] <jcastro> iirc I was reset back to "normal" last time
[17:53] <mhall119> jcastro: I checked, you are in the right groups
[17:54] <jcastro> k
[17:57] <dpm> mhall119, oh man, I was expecting to just see some links rearranged, but that's absolutely stunning, good work!
[18:02] <mhall119> :)
[18:05] <mhall119> getting those boxes right was a royal pain in the butt though
[18:12] <dpm> mhall119, I can imagine, I haven't had a look at it, but I guess you've edited html code in Wordpress, which is a royal pain in itself :)
[18:13] <mhall119> I actually had to override css styles on the elements themselves
[18:13] <dpm> ugh :)
[18:14] <mhall119> the css to build it is in home.css, which is only available from the Home template, nor Resource Child :(
[18:14] <dpm> One thing I've noticed is that the image in the middle is smaller than the others. I think it'd look visually more consistent if the 3 were of the same size. Do you have another image with the same size as the others, or one that you can resize?
[18:14] <mhall119> so I had to pick those bits out, and undo some stuff that resource_child.css was putting it
[18:15] <dpm> ouch
[18:15] <mhall119> yeah, the only good screenshot I could find of the 11.10 dash wasn't the same dimensions as the others
[18:15] <dpm> perhaps resizing it with gimp might get a good result?
[18:16] <mhall119> I'd have to crop off some of the left or right side to make it the same
[18:17] <dpm> or perhaps just change the height. It being so small probably the distorsion won't be noticeable
[18:17] <mhall119> I tried that, it was pretty noticable
[18:20] <dpm> ah well, perhaps for another iteration, for now I think it looks pretty awesome enough :-)
[18:22] <dpm> mhall119, ok, I've done some edits on the tutorial and I think it's now ready to publish. I didn't get to set up the Launchpad code sample project, but I didn't want to keep blocking. Does it look ok to you and ready to publish? -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true
[18:23] <mhall119> dpm: looks good to me
[18:28] <mhall119> dpm: I cropped the right side off the 11.10 image, looks better now
[18:29] <dpm> ah, cool
[18:36] <dpm> thanks for checking out the post, I've published it now, time to start promoting the hell out of it ;)
[18:45] <dpm> ok, everyone feel free to upvote http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/s8boa/how_to_create_a_wikipedia_unity_lens_for_ubuntu, retweet @ubuntuappdev, share it on g+, FB and basically fill the internets with unity lenses and app development love ;-)
[18:46] <dpm> Nice to see the first comment on the blog post, too: "Amazing! This is just amazing!" :-)
[18:49] <mhall119> dpm: are you going to replace the featured tutorial, or do you want me to do that?
[18:50] <dpm> mhall119, ah, good point. I think I'm going to call it a day in a minute, so if you want to change it, please feel free to. Otherwise I can have a look at it on Monday
[18:56] <dpm> and now time to call it a day, have a nice weekend everyone!
[19:24] <mhall119> jcastro: do you have access to the "Ubuntu" page on G+?
[19:24] <mhall119> oh, nvm, dpm must have posted it already
[21:21] <jcastro> mhall119: I don't, I only have access to the juju and -cloud ones
[21:37] <cjohnston> Leadership Summit is scheduled for Tuesday and Thursday afternoons during UDS