[04:08] hehe, at the very least, I guess I got some attention to the fact that the classic desktop is called Gnome Panel and not Gnome 2 :) [04:09] woops. Wrong channel :) [05:01] jo-erlend: :P [05:01] jo-erlend: next one should be Gnome 3 vs Unity [05:02] bkerensa, I guess maybe you mean Gnome Shell? :) [05:02] jo-erlend: Sure Gnome Shell [05:27] I'm not sure I want to do that. Because no matter how hard I tried, Gnome Shell wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance. And I don't want to demote it, because that would only create more anger and division in the community. [05:28] I could do a mouse-only comparison though. But the next time, I'll let others define the tasks. :) [06:57] good morning [07:00] morning dholbach [07:03] hi dholbach [07:03] hi forestpiskie, bkerensa [07:04] at least it is a good morning - sun is shining, birds are singing and cat is winding me right up [07:05] forestpiskie: very quiet and dark here :D [07:05] :) I guessed from your blog that you was over the side of the sea bkerensa [07:05] I wish I was on ther other side :D [07:05] perhaps in Germany like dholbach [07:06] * bkerensa is a fan of german sausage and kraut [07:06] ;p [07:06] * forestpiskie is a fan of food [07:06] well yeah that too :)\ [07:16] morning ! [07:45] is it just me, or is archive.ubuntu.com extremely slow now? [07:46] morning [07:49] 2 weeks to release and latest updates have left me with no dekstop on boot up, great start to the day :( [07:49] has nobody heard of testing >:( [08:09] czajkowski: :( [08:12] good morning all, sorry to hear that czajkowski, I wished the Friday would have started out better :/ [08:13] me too [08:13] doing more updates [08:13] seem to be stuck in a loop [08:13] 2nd time this week technology fail [08:13] first time I got locked outta all systems by 2 factor auth as I had generated too many keys [08:13] have you tried with a mirror? [08:14] waht do you mean ? [08:14] if archive.u.c is not responsive, perhaps choosing a mirror might be more responsive [08:15] ahh [08:15] no it's pulling down updates alright [08:15] I just need to find a usb key to get the log off machine and to seb [08:15] talk about arseways to start a day [08:15] ah right [08:19] omg :( launchpad is taking forever to update a diff preview [08:33] dpm: translations coming along good? [08:33] :D [08:34] stop breakint lp [08:34] *breaking [08:34] I can only deal with one broken thing at a time [08:35] bkerensa, translations are always good! ;-) [08:41] whoo and we're all back :D [08:42] dpm: I wish we could have got one final thing in to you guys but next time it seems ;) [08:45] bkerensa, no worries. We should also make sure localised images are uploaded, I'll send an e-mail to the docs list [09:03] 'lo all. [09:03] *yawns* === nothingspecial is now known as rastamouse === s-fox is now known as shaktiyoni === rastamouse is now known as fingermouse === fingermouse is now known as nothingspecial [12:57] nigelb: pig [12:59] bah [12:59] nigelb: *PING* [12:59] not the animal [12:59] god lord [13:00] heh [13:00] czajkowski: pong [13:00] I did that to my boss the other day :P [13:02] nigelb: is this team activehttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-andhrapradesh [13:03] I don't think so. I haven't heard anything about them. [13:03] At least not on the ubuntu-in lists. [13:15] czajkowski: I had someone asking me about getting that team going again earlier [13:19] is that a team you would like to become more active czajkowski ? [13:21] nigelb: hmmm ok thanks [13:21] nothingspecial: nope just asking about it in general thanks [13:22] ok === themadmonk is now known as forestpiskie [14:07] mhall119, dholbach or anyone else, do you know of any projects that might be worth hightlighting in the Software Center banners? [14:07] We've already had Openshot in the past [14:07] I'm thinking of the Full Circle Magazine [14:07] Calligra, etc. [14:07] does anyone have any ideas for cool apps to highlight? [14:09] Crack Attack! or Hugin :) [14:11] ... The "Contact this team" function on Launchpad... Is it brand new? I've received lots of mail like that the last few days, and I don't think I've ever seen that before. [14:13] dpm: maybe the new music scopes? [14:15] dholbach, what's Crack Attack! [14:16] ? [14:16] thanks dholbach, mhall119 [14:16] jo-erlend_: nope not new [14:16] dpm, sudo apt-get install crack-attack && crack-attack [14:16] just been updated and it's been blogged/fb/G+/Twitteed and dented [14:16] dpm, see you in a few hours :-P [14:16] and still people don't seem to know about it [14:17] why isn't it being sent to the mailinglist? [14:17] jo-erlend_: http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/contacting-teams-is-easier-and-more-reliable [14:17] because it's not a mailing list :) [14:17] you're contacting the team not joinging the mailing list [14:20] oh, by the way. Can I send emails to a list I'm subscribed to using any mail address I have registered to LP? [14:22] jo-erlend_: nope just the one you've signed up with to the list, unless you are using the contact this team feature [14:23] Hmm. I thought I'd start using the ubuntu.com address. I'm on quite a few lists. Perhaps someone can automate it? [14:24] jo-erlend_: why not just go in and change your settings easily [14:24] czajkowski? [14:26] jo-erlend_: change what email address you are subscribed under [14:27] off to work.. [14:27] cjohnston, how? === jalcine_ is now known as Guest70068 === Guest70068 is now known as jalcine_ [14:33] dpm: Openshot :D [14:33] OpenPhoto* [14:34] bkerensa, ok looking at OpenPhoto, thanks :) [14:34] dpm: Let me know if you need any info [14:35] bkerensa, I guess it's not this one, is it? -> http://openphoto.net/ :) [14:35] dpm: openphoto.me and theopenphotoproject.org [14:35] :) [14:35] yeah, I guessed right, then :) [14:35] is it open source? [14:35] * dpm researches [14:36] dpm: yes [14:36] We are open source [14:36] cool, and more importantly, already packaged? [14:36] dpm: is david calle's tutorial ready to publish? [14:37] we can only highlight apps you can download from the Software Center in the banner [14:37] dpm: Not yet but since I just joined the team I am working on a juju charm and hopefully get it packaged soon [14:37] jo-erlend_: launchpad.net/~/+editemails [14:37] the project is very pro Ubuntu right now :P [14:37] change them in one go [14:37] https://github.com/openphoto <-- fork us [14:38] bkerensa, cool. You should use Launchpad for translations, too! I read on that page that you're looking for a translations platform, so why not take one that's already there with thousands of translators? ;) [14:38] dpm: :P I will have to talk to them about that since we use github (unfortunately for vcs and issue tracking) [14:39] bkerensa: you can have your git branch auto-imported into LP+bzr I think [14:39] bkerensa, I know, I noticed, but you don't have to use Launchpad's code hosting to use it for translations, so it wouldn't require changing anything :) [14:39] correct [14:40] huh [14:40] you can use vcs imports, or you can just use Launchpad Translations without code imports (with code imports works better, though) [14:41] cool I will pass it along to the project lead [14:41] mhall119, yes, it should be ready to publish, but give me a few mins to look at it, I haven't touched since we last talked about it [14:42] I am hoping to find someone possibly on the U1 team who might be interested in giving us some heads up on integrating the openphoto backend to support U1 as a storage source [14:43] bkerensa, just hop onto #ubuntuone and ask there, you can ping sil, and he'll definitely help you :) [14:43] k [14:44] there is a tutorial on d.u.c on Ubuntu One integration too: [14:44] c [14:44] http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/practical-ubuntu-one-files-integration [14:44] dpm: is there any way to specify the order of the left-side links on the developer portal's resources page? [14:45] mhall119, I don't think so, I seem to remember they were sorted alphabetically, and the weight field in the WP posts was ignored [14:45] darn [14:45] hey, do we have a team call today? is Jono around? [14:45] dholbach: he's on vacation, but we can still hangout [14:45] I don't have anything to demo though [14:45] ^^ [14:46] what he said [14:46] I'm working on something I might demo one day :) [14:46] dpm: I moved the Unity docs around on the developer portal like we had talked about [14:46] new mixes please dholbach [14:46] mhall119, does the category_order have to be specified right at the start? or can it be "dynamic"? [14:46] I also added links to the 12.04 APIs [14:46] mhall119, ack, cool, thanks [14:46] czajkowski, http://www.mixcloud.com/dholbach/ is all I have right now :) [14:47] dholbach: if you don't define it, Singlet will set it, but there's no guarantee of their display order that way [14:47] czajkowski, but yes, I wanted to do a new one on the WE [14:47] dholbach: they're rather handy for the gym and going for walks [14:47] and it can't be changed without restarting unity [14:47] mhall119, as long as the right stuff ends up in the right category I'm happy with that :) [14:47] mhall119, balloons, jcastro, balloons, do you guys still want to hang out? I don't have anything to demo this week, so I'm happy either skipping or joining in [14:48] +1 for hanging out [14:50] ok, let's do it then :) [14:51] czajkowski, I'm glad you like them :) [14:52] alternative between that and salsa/zumba music [14:54] dpm: dholbach, jcastro, balloons: invite sent [14:54] woot [14:55] whoa.. g+ so weird [14:55] balloons: it is Unity [14:55] :P [14:56] mhall119, how do you install the quickly lens template? [14:57] (joining the hangout in a few mins) [14:57] dpm: apt-get install quickly-unity-lens-template [15:00] mhall119, cool, thanks. Adding this info to the tutorial [15:29] Just a quick follow through re: migrating tutorials from Forums -> wiki [15:29] The Forms community is in general supportive of the change, and some of the detractors are now supportive [15:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11840820&postcount=134 [15:29] ;0 [15:30] Ongoing discussions from time to time in #ubuntuforums and #ubuntu-wiki and it is on the FC agenda if anyone wishes to comment https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda [15:30] 'lo bkerensa [15:30] Hello [15:45] mhall119, I've started doing some modifications on http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true - one of the things that I noticed is that we should probably have code samples in LP rather than in a pastebin as in the tutorial. I think it might be worth having a 'ubuntuappdevelopers-examples' project in LP to contain all code samples. What do you think? [15:49] dpm: isn't there a project for the devportal already? [15:49] we can just host a branch under there [15:50] mhall119, yeah, but it's rather for the site: ubuntudeveloperportal - I'm not sure whether it will be confusing to add a completely unrelated branch there [15:51] * dholbach hugs czajkowski and james_w [15:52] dpm: I'm okay with having a new project [15:52] maybe a shorter name though [15:52] lp:ubuntuappdevelopers-examples/foo is kind of long [15:52] * czajkowski hugs dholbach [15:53] sure, a shorter name sounds good [15:54] james_w, High Contrast tomorrow! :) [15:55] woop! [15:56] yeah, should be good :) [16:08] dholbach: dpm: balloons: mhall119: ah bah, sorry I wasn't around for the hangout [16:08] I was dark all morning catching up on stuff [16:08] no worries maye [16:08] *mate [16:08] and figured we wouldn't have one, should have asked [16:11] mhall119: hey are you on the UDS planning trello? [16:17] jcastro: looks like it [16:17] mhall119: ok [16:17] you're assigning me work, aren't you [16:18] mhall119: how can I schedule meetings via that new thingie you were talking about? [16:18] mhall119: no I just want to make sure you know what I am scheduling, etc. and why [16:18] jcastro: you don't schedule them, you can create and propose them [16:18] when you see sessions in certain spots, etc. [16:18] mhall119: ah ok, where do I do that? [16:18] scheduling is still handled the same as blueprint sessions [16:18] ok [16:18] jcastro: go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/ [16:19] so schedule as normal via lp and then ... ? [16:19] there's a "Create a meeting" link in the top-right of the page [16:19] wait what? [16:19] this is only for non-blueprint sessions [16:20] jcastro: you want to schedule an existing BP session in a specific place? [16:20] yes [16:20] on Tuesday [16:20] sorry I was confusing you [16:20] let me start over [16:20] jcastro: does http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit work for you? [16:33] mhall119: I can see the page but not move boxes [16:37] alrightie, I call it a day - have a great weekend everyone [16:37] g'nite dholbach [16:49] mhall119: also, the schedule displays for me when I'm logged into that page [16:49] but the sessions don't seem to show up on the track page? [16:56] cprofitt: do you mind joining #ubuntu-wiki and clearing up the wiki.ubuntu.com/help.ubuntu.com thing there please [16:56] if you've got a minute that is cprofitt [16:57] never mind cprofitt, bkerensa has done it [16:58] mhall119: remember my permissions got reset, so I might need to be readded [16:58] mhall119: I'd like to schedule the plenaries, that's why I ask [17:04] nothingspecial: hasn't this been covered at least twice this week one is for colaboration and anyone can add stuff to and one is offical docs [17:05] don't worry czajkowski, I was struggling to explain so I came to the community for help [17:05] it's all sorted now [17:06] fair enough [17:06] An introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-featur [17:06] An introduction to our new sharing feature - http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/an-introduction-to-our-new-sharing-feature [17:17] czajkowski: they were not getting confused between help.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community... but help.ubuntu.com/community and wiki.ubuntu.com [17:17] it is all clear now though. [17:27] jcastro: I've added you to the schedule changers group, you should be able to scheduule stuff now [17:27] ok [17:28] mhall119: ok I just need the URL to do that [17:28] mhall119: I can schedule plenaries this way I hope? [17:31] jcastro: should be able to, yes [17:31] jcastro: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?edit to edit Tuesday [17:31] mhall119: ok so is there a button I am missing or something? [17:32] let's say I want to schedule something on the first plenary slit [17:32] I ... ? [17:45] jcastro: you drag the session from the right-side into the first plenary slot [17:45] ah that might be the problem [17:45] I'm not getting a sidebar [17:46] are you logged in? [17:46] yeah [17:47] as jcastro? [17:47] dpm: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/ [17:48] you might need to ctrl+refresh [17:48] mhall119: my lp id is "jorge" [17:48] ok, that's the account I gave permissions to [17:49] heh [17:49] jcastro: do you have javascript disabled or something? [17:49] no [17:49] I've tried in both chrome and FF, no sidebar [17:49] jcastro: if you go to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/display?, do you see "Edit" in the subnav? [17:50] nope [17:51] jcastro: try logging out and back in [17:52] nope [17:52] also, I am using 2 factor auth (I don't know if that means anything [17:52] to log into summit? [17:52] yeah [17:52] it shouldn't matter, if you're logged in it should work the same [17:52] I have the 2 factor auth thing turned on [17:53] yeah I didn't think it would, was just trying to add more info [17:53] if your nick is in the white bar at the top, Summit knows who you are and should give you the right perms [17:53] ok I have to go ship swag to contributors [17:53] and you know how the UPS store can get [17:53] cjohnston: can you edit the schedule for uds-q? [17:53] so hope to be back in 60 [17:53] jcastro: ok [17:53] mhall119: I perhaps am not in the right groups [17:53] iirc I was reset back to "normal" last time [17:53] jcastro: I checked, you are in the right groups [17:54] k [17:57] mhall119, oh man, I was expecting to just see some links rearranged, but that's absolutely stunning, good work! [18:02] :) [18:05] getting those boxes right was a royal pain in the butt though [18:12] mhall119, I can imagine, I haven't had a look at it, but I guess you've edited html code in Wordpress, which is a royal pain in itself :) [18:13] I actually had to override css styles on the elements themselves [18:13] ugh :) [18:14] the css to build it is in home.css, which is only available from the Home template, nor Resource Child :( [18:14] One thing I've noticed is that the image in the middle is smaller than the others. I think it'd look visually more consistent if the 3 were of the same size. Do you have another image with the same size as the others, or one that you can resize? [18:14] so I had to pick those bits out, and undo some stuff that resource_child.css was putting it [18:15] ouch [18:15] yeah, the only good screenshot I could find of the 11.10 dash wasn't the same dimensions as the others [18:15] perhaps resizing it with gimp might get a good result? [18:16] I'd have to crop off some of the left or right side to make it the same [18:17] or perhaps just change the height. It being so small probably the distorsion won't be noticeable [18:17] I tried that, it was pretty noticable [18:20] ah well, perhaps for another iteration, for now I think it looks pretty awesome enough :-) [18:22] mhall119, ok, I've done some edits on the tutorial and I think it's now ready to publish. I didn't get to set up the Launchpad code sample project, but I didn't want to keep blocking. Does it look ok to you and ready to publish? -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/?p=1340&preview=true [18:23] dpm: looks good to me [18:28] dpm: I cropped the right side off the 11.10 image, looks better now [18:29] ah, cool [18:36] thanks for checking out the post, I've published it now, time to start promoting the hell out of it ;) [18:45] ok, everyone feel free to upvote http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/s8boa/how_to_create_a_wikipedia_unity_lens_for_ubuntu, retweet @ubuntuappdev, share it on g+, FB and basically fill the internets with unity lenses and app development love ;-) [18:46] Nice to see the first comment on the blog post, too: "Amazing! This is just amazing!" :-) [18:49] dpm: are you going to replace the featured tutorial, or do you want me to do that? [18:50] mhall119, ah, good point. I think I'm going to call it a day in a minute, so if you want to change it, please feel free to. Otherwise I can have a look at it on Monday [18:56] and now time to call it a day, have a nice weekend everyone! [19:24] jcastro: do you have access to the "Ubuntu" page on G+? [19:24] oh, nvm, dpm must have posted it already [21:21] mhall119: I don't, I only have access to the juju and -cloud ones [21:37] Leadership Summit is scheduled for Tuesday and Thursday afternoons during UDS