| iheartubuntu | greetings from the pasadena ubuntu hour! checking in with 7 people here tonite! | 01:39 |
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| pleia2 | :D | 01:43 |
| pleia2 | thunderstorm :D | 03:36 |
| pleia2 | I think this is the first time I've seen one here | 03:37 |
| philipballew_ | yeah, I am getting tweets all over the place pleia2 saying thunder | 03:38 |
| pleia2 | it's awesome! | 03:38 |
| philipballew_ | this stupid 75 everyday weather is really annoying. I need to visit the north soon | 03:39 |
| pleia2 | it's been rainy this year | 03:39 |
| philipballew_ | thats what I hear. Rain is fun | 03:40 |
| philipballew_ | snow is better though | 03:40 |
| philipballew_ | untill it freezes | 03:40 |
| akk | It's been totally dry here this year, until this month. | 03:40 |
| * DonkeyHotei is in SF now and considers this the loudest storm in a long time | 03:45 | |
| akk | The thunder hasn't made it down here yet ... I hope it does. | 03:45 |
| pleia2 | it's not the building-shaking, tree destroying storms we had in philly springs, but it is pretty loud :) | 03:46 |
| pleia2 | surprisingly not all that windy | 03:46 |
| Swagbodian | i am back filip | 05:23 |
| Swagbodian | ! | 05:23 |
| Swagbodian | HOLAsz | 05:23 |
| philipballew_ | Swagbodian, are you refering to me? | 05:24 |
| gua | yes, filip , clearly | 05:24 |
| gua | ! | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | haha | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | hey gua | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | howd ur day go | 05:25 |
| philipballew_ | I assume. Please do not do that. Its spelled Philip, but if you need my attention you should use philipballew | 05:25 |
| gua | pretty good. actually made some progress | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | i was reading what u sent to me last night | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | progress in what? | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | sorry philip | 05:25 |
| Swagbodian | didnt mean to make u mad | 05:26 |
| gua | going through browser tabs from a research session on nilfs2, dmcrypt and ssd optimization | 05:26 |
| gua | still have a big amount but the pile is a bit smaller | 05:26 |
| Swagbodian | do you have noobie terms >.<? | 05:26 |
| gua | nilfs2 is a very neat filesystem, dmcrypt is how volume encryption is usually done on linux, ssds are solid state disks, like using a big usb thumbdrive as a hard disk | 05:28 |
| Swagbodian | man i learn so much from you gua | 05:29 |
| gua | here's something | 05:29 |
| Swagbodian | i was thinkin i should get started on python | 05:29 |
| gua | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html | 05:30 |
| gua | that's an idea | 05:30 |
| gua | that guide, and reading the manpage for bash are good things | 05:30 |
| gua | for python do http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ | 05:30 |
| gua | you also have to learn emacs and vim | 05:30 |
| Swagbodian | emacs vim? | 05:31 |
| philipballew_ | !vim | 05:31 |
| Eureka | Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code | 05:31 |
| philipballew_ | !emacs | 05:31 |
| gua | they are Text Editors. swords to fight the dragons of code. | 05:32 |
| Swagbodian | oh i see | 05:32 |
| Swagbodian | man i think tonight i cant absorb as much information as last night gua and philip | 05:32 |
| Swagbodian | got to write this paper >_> | 05:32 |
| Swagbodian | i really hate english class | 05:32 |
| Swagbodian | is it beneficial to programming? | 05:33 |
| gua | Swagbodian: just keep track of links and google terms later when you have time | 05:33 |
| gua | good communication is very important. all important programming is a big group effort. | 05:33 |
| Swagbodian | okay everyday i will save our conversations so i can refer back to em | 05:34 |
| gua | well just notes are better. important terms. not everything is all that profound :P | 05:34 |
| Swagbodian | where do u work at gua? | 05:35 |
| gua | i freelance atm, been meaning to go back to school | 05:37 |
| bkerensa | ok | 15:16 |
| bkerensa | I have to ask | 15:16 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: was that really everclear you all drank? | 15:16 |
| DonkeyHotei | kegger? | 15:22 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: yes, akgraner brought it | 15:53 |
| bkerensa | akgraner: that stuff is wicked | 15:53 |
| DonkeyHotei | where was this? | 15:53 |
| bkerensa | they sell it here in Oregon but you have to request it and they get it from a backroom | 15:53 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: at one of the UDS events | 15:54 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: One shot of that stuff will put me down :( its like gasoline | 15:54 |
| DonkeyHotei | i thought UDS wasn't until next month | 15:54 |
| bkerensa | DonkeyHotei: A previous one | 15:54 |
| DonkeyHotei | oh | 15:55 |
| akgraner | I contribute where and when I can ;-) | 16:07 |
| kdub | dear pulseaudio, stop crashing :) | 16:33 |
| philipballew_ | pulseaudio is a interesting beast. | 16:46 |
| kdub | more like a crashing beast :P | 16:47 |
| philipballew_ | Its impossible to get work done on a computer without music in most circumstances. | 16:48 |
| philipballew_ | and you usually need pulse for that... | 16:49 |
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| akk | Whoa -- lightning from that storm last night striking the Golden Gate bridge: http://kqedscience.tumblr.com/post/21030784796/san-franfrazzled-once-in-a-lifetime-picture-of | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | cool :) | 17:26 |
| DonkeyHotei | akk: uhhh, that's the bay bridge, not the GG | 17:27 |
| akk | Oh, oops. It actually isn't a great pic of the bridge, so I was having a hard time telling | 17:28 |
| akk | and the page didn't have any info. | 17:28 |
| akk | I assumed from "iconic" that it was supposed to be the GG -- since when is the bay bridge iconic? :) | 17:29 |
| DonkeyHotei | it says "BAY BRIDGE" atop the pic, and it's too long to be the GG, and you can see the cross-hatch pattern in the towers that the GG lacks | 17:29 |
| DonkeyHotei | btw, until very recently, the bay bridge was THE longest bridge in the world | 17:35 |
| akk | Agreed, it's historic, it's a fine bridge, but I still wouldn't call it iconic. | 17:45 |
| akk | Not a lot of tourists get excited about seeing the bay bridge. | 17:45 |
| DonkeyHotei | a LOT of people died building it. in contrast, the GG construction set records for safety | 17:47 |
| seidos | \o the bay bridge would probably be more iconic if Oakland was considered more interesting to visit | 18:05 |
| akk | True. Poor Oakland. | 18:05 |
| akk | Neither Oakland nor San Jose get any respect. | 18:06 |
| greg-g | awww, sad | 18:06 |
| seidos | i'm sure Oakland is great, it's hard to compete with SF culture | 18:07 |
| seidos | and all that greenery north of it | 18:07 |
| akk | Also west and south | 18:08 |
| bkerensa | I got offered a fantastic Open Source job today by the CEO of a tech company :D | 18:08 |
| bkerensa | and invited to lunch :D | 18:08 |
| akk | woo! | 18:08 |
| DonkeyHotei | meh, marin is even less interesting to visit | 18:22 |
| DonkeyHotei | the only thing good about it is the outdoors | 18:23 |
| seidos | lol that's funny, i think my favorite part of SF was GG park | 18:34 |
| seidos | well, and the people, but with the right people anywhere is good times | 18:37 |
| DonkeyHotei | GG park isn't exactly "the outdoors" | 18:38 |
| DonkeyHotei | it's all man-made | 18:38 |
| seidos | is that why i didn't see Pocahontas while i was there? | 18:39 |
| seidos | lol | 18:39 |
| DonkeyHotei | wrong coast | 18:40 |
| seidos | i saw Pocahontas on the west coast | 18:41 |
| seidos | she is everywhere \o/ | 18:41 |
| seidos | lol | 18:41 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Pretty cool blog post... My fiancée's CEO is jewish and orthodox at that so the relationship he has with female employees is very interesting to observe | 19:31 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: fortunately my fiance is reform :) | 19:32 |
| pleia2 | we avoid pork, but in general don't keep kosher | 19:32 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: yeah :) I thought it was interesting my fiancée brought her CEO a holiday card and he wouldnt even take it from her he just kind of looked at it.... He doesnt touch or shake hands with women who are not his family :P | 19:33 |
| bkerensa | There is some good Kosher foods :) I like Kosher dogs better then the non-kosher alternative and latkes are pretty tasty | 19:33 |
| bkerensa | and I love me some Hummus | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | I live in Philly for a while so I know all about kosher foods, there are indeed some great ones :) | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | s/live/lived | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | I think the only thing I have disliked is Matzah | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | :P | 19:35 |
| pleia2 | gefilte fish is horrible | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | heh | 19:35 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Does Ubuntu CA have anything special planned for UDS other then the walkabouts? | 19:36 |
| bkerensa | I'm not exactly sure how proposing outside events goes.... Because I could likely summon funds and take a good handful of people for a MozCoffee | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UDS-Q has our event ideas | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | the only one that is confirmed is SF tourism, but that's the same night as czajkowski's photo event that you're attending | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | Yeah :D I wanna go take photos... I have been to all the places on the tourism walk | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | although I might make way to the cable car turnaround for a slice of blondies pizza if it still exists | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | oh Debian dinner in Oakland is that night too, but waiting on them to announce it | 19:39 |
| bkerensa | OH | 19:39 |
| bkerensa | :s | 19:39 |
| bkerensa | If the Portland Debian folks go for the Debian dinner I might have to tag along | 19:39 |
| pleia2 | anyway, that's on the page I linked too :) | 19:40 |
| * pleia2 back2work | 19:40 | |
| bkerensa | cool stuffs | 19:40 |
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| seidos | The new cover of Time is auspicious..."The World's Most Exclusive Club: The secret society of Presidents" | 21:31 |
| greg-g | oh Time :/ | 21:38 |
| akk | jtatum: Around? I'm researching mifi. (Or anyone else who's used mifi units, of course.) | 23:14 |
| jtatum | hi akk :) it's been a while since i've tried a vzw mobile hotspot. my current is from clear. | 23:16 |
| jtatum | also have at&t lte on my tablet | 23:17 |
| jtatum | way too much mobile internet at the moment | 23:17 |
| akk | ah, okay. We're evaluating the t-mobile deals (and a few others). | 23:18 |
| akk | (would prefer verizon but can't justify paying that much more) | 23:19 |
| akk | Wondering if the difference between various 4g standards and frequency bands should be a factor in choice of unit. | 23:20 |
| jtatum | ahh.. probably? usually whatever the carrier has is the right part I guess. lte and wimax are both really slick. lte maybe has an edge because it's got better range. | 23:21 |
| jtatum | very low latencies and fast | 23:21 |
| akk | T-mobile has two units, an older, lighter, better range, cheaper one and a newer, faster, less range, heavier one. | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | not only does lte have better coverage, they're expanding their coverage faster than wimax | 23:22 |
| akk | More freq bands on the newer one, apparently, and the salesman handwaved about it being a different 4g standard but couldn't go into detail. | 23:22 |
| akk | I suspect it's not as radical a change as wimax vs. lte, but I'm not sure. | 23:23 |
| * akk is pretty confused about 4g in general | 23:23 | |
| pleia2 | it is confusing | 23:23 |
| * pleia2 still just has 3g :) | 23:24 | |
| jtatum | yeah there's a million different lte bands | 23:24 |
| philipballew_ | its weird as g doesn't even imply speed | 23:24 |
| philipballew_ | neither does 4 | 23:24 |
| jtatum | seriously something like 45 different bands | 23:24 |
| philipballew_ | yet they market is as such | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | I have a usb dongle from Sprint that does 4G, on Mac and Windows :( only does 3G in Ubuntu | 23:24 |
| akk | pleia2: For phones, all my googling says 3g is actually better because 4g sucks so much battery. | 23:24 |
| akk | (unless you really do mega downloads, I guess) | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | oh yeah, 4G eats battery like crazy | 23:24 |
| akk | Wow, the usb dongle works in Linux? I'd heard most of them didn't, so I wasn't even considering that option. | 23:25 |
| jtatum | i love low latency. don't really care about the speed boost. it's nice for web and ssh | 23:25 |
| akk | Latency is important. But that's not something reviews or sales pages ever mention. | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | akk: the only ones I know work are a couple models from Sprint, and you need to use kppp to get online with them (it's all rather goofy) | 23:26 |
| akk | We'll probably stick with mifi, because they'll work with multiple devices, and tablets that don't have usb. | 23:26 |
| akk | (and no ppp hassles) | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | the problem with watching Star Wars these days is that I set my phone to make R2D2 noises for txt messages | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | now I'm all "wait, phone or tv" | 23:27 |
| pleia2 | (I didn't used to have a fancy phone I could set custom sounds on ;)) | 23:28 |
| akk | Apparently the 4g difference is that the new unit is "HSPA+", whatever that means. | 23:28 |
| akk | pleia2: haha | 23:28 |
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