[01:01] <jrwren> re: shaving soap. pretty much anything will work too. Ivory or Dove are both gental and super cheap.
[01:02] <jrwren> don't skimp on brush.
[01:02] <jrwren> I had a boar brush for a while, it was terrible.
[01:02] <jrwren> Badger is where it is at.
[01:19] <snap-l> jcastro: How does this remind you of me?
[01:19] <jcastro> snap-l: no idea
[01:19] <jcastro> like he'd be your brother or something
[01:22] <snap-l> Ah, if I had a dopey brother that obsessed over shaving.
[01:22] <jrwren> jcastro: for what is the witch hazel?
[01:23] <rick_h> jcastro: I kind of a agree, though I don't think I saw it until you said something
[01:29] <jcastro> jrwren: I think people use it for like an aftershave
[01:29] <jcastro> and astrigen
[01:34] <jrwren> yeah, i use it as an astringent, hopefully to minimize my pores, so I can be more perty :p
[01:34] <jrwren> but I dunno what it does for my shaving.
[01:34] <jrwren> i shall try it as aftershave.
[01:34] <jrwren> TOMORROW!
[01:42] <jcastro> I don't use it
[01:42] <jcastro> I am trying to avoid turning into a crazy person
[01:43] <jcastro> like audiophiles with cable elevators
[01:51] <snap-l> jcastro: Too late
[01:51] <jrwren> well, a pint of whichhazel is like $0.79 at meijer :)
[01:51] <snap-l> I expect you to be putting ferrite cores in your bathroom
[01:53] <jcastro> snap-l: oxygen free
[01:57] <snap-l> jrwren: http://www.michiguide.com/archives2012/2012/04/newsmakers-and-links-april-12.html
[01:59] <jrwren> wtf?
[02:00] <jrwren> well that is great. I hope they get some $$$ and increase their signal
[02:00] <jrwren> because its a weak signal even on campus
[11:52] <rick_h> morning party people
[12:09] <snap-l> Goooood morning
[12:09] <snap-l> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/12/2332239/indian-man-charged-with-blasphemy-for-exposing-miracle
[12:44] <jrwren> anyone else get spammed by mug announce this morning ?
[12:44] <rick_h> yea, last night got two of them for last tues's meetings
[12:44] <snap-l> Yes, it's my fault
[12:44] <rick_h> get him!
[12:44] <snap-l> I've been playing with r2e, and accidentally did a reset
[12:47] <rick_h> grrr, bzr die!
[12:52] <snap-l> my poor mail server is getting hammered as well. :)
[12:52] <snap-l> 337 feeds, some of which go back to 2007
[12:53] <rick_h> doesn't it limit it at all?
[12:53] <snap-l> not well
[12:53] <rick_h> I mean I load a feed into greader it only grabs the last 10
[12:53] <rick_h> ugh, that's off. My poor notmuch db would get hammered and seaching my email would be forever corrupt
[12:53] <snap-l> There is a --no-send flag
[12:54] <snap-l> but, when it runs in cron, there's not nuck you can do about it without killing it
[12:54] <rick_h> finally got the old backups to the nas. Found out I copied an rsync command from their docs that did symlink copying which made for a much larger copy that I intended
[12:54] <snap-l> Oh, lovely
[12:55] <rick_h> yea, so ended up blowing away some stuff and restarting some backups
[12:55] <rick_h> so only took a week to get the backups off, now to get the curent systems copying there now
[12:57] <brousch> i am experiencing the future, and it sucks
[12:57] <rick_h> lol
[12:57] <rick_h> what broke now brousch ?
[12:57] <brousch> We wanted to get a backup set of keys for the new used car
[12:57] <brousch> $230
[12:58] <brousch> the key has some encryption chip in it that pairs with a chip in the ignition
[12:58] <rick_h> ah yea
[12:58] <brousch> they have to program it, and only dealerships can do it
[12:58] <rick_h> car keys these days...can't keep people out of hte cars, but they can try to keep them from starting it
[12:59] <brousch> $230 for a key. these guys have their dicks in the peanut butter
[13:00] <brousch> you know what it costed to have a guy come out and break into the car when my wife locked herself out? $45
[13:00] <brousch> so she can lock herself out 5x for the price of a key
[13:00] <snap-l> brousch: Even better are the rfid keys
[13:01] <snap-l> expect those in the near future
[13:01] <brousch> rfid is cheap. that's the whole point
[13:01] <snap-l> so some thief will still be able to hotwire your car, but he'll be able to do it from 50 feet away
[13:01] <brousch> so why does it cost $230 to put it in a key?
[13:01] <snap-l> and you'll have to pay $500 for their newfangled keyfob
[13:01] <rick_h> well if anyone at the dealership touched it you nkow you add $100 to it
[13:02] <snap-l> brousch: the same reason it costs $600 for an in-dash radio that sounds worse than a college boombox
[13:02] <rick_h> and the programmer probably costs the dealership $100,000,000
[13:02] <brousch> that's maybe the most annoying part. only the dealership has the equipment to make a new key
[13:02] <rick_h> yea, else break-ins would be easy!
[13:02] <brousch> locked in tighter than an iphone
[13:02] <snap-l> brousch: Come to Detroit. I'm sure some warehouse somewhere has the same exact equipment
[13:03] <brousch> i mean come on, i live in grand rapids. my car is never going to be stolen
[13:08] <brousch> http://www.autotransponder.com/2009_subaru_forester_keys_and_keyless_entry_remotes
[13:08] <snap-l> brousch: It'll be moved if you happen to park on a nickel, though.
[13:08] <snap-l> Probably towed
[13:08] <brousch> so the key itself is $10 and the fob is $70. $70 for a nickle worth of plastick and a dollar in electronics
[13:09] <snap-l> I <3 MUG
[13:09] <rick_h> ?
[13:09] <snap-l> Sent out a message about the r2e screw up
[13:09] <snap-l> Hi Craig.
[13:09] <snap-l> Do you have any experience with building home media pc that utilizes things like XMBC ?
[13:09] <rick_h> lmao
[13:09] <snap-l> *headdesk*
[13:10] <rick_h> doh, krondor is doing his charm school at the same time as the web bof? booo
[13:19] <rick_h> crap, can we edit the PC schedule stuff at all? Where's waldo...
[13:19]  * brousch snickers
[13:19] <brousch> sorry, couldn't help it
[13:24] <rick_h> it was intentional :)
[13:31] <jrwren> brousch: i have solved this exact key problem.
[13:31] <jrwren> i just don't lock my car doors.
[13:32] <brousch> nice
[13:32] <brousch> i think i can get a remote door fob for cheap and program it myself
[13:33] <brousch> that will be good enough for now
[13:33] <brousch> still $70
[13:36] <jrwren> dist-upgrade is listing some NEW packages to be installed. how can I pin them as not install?
[13:38] <brousch> i found a programmable aftermarket fob for $40. at least i can open the doors even if i won't be able to start the car
[13:45] <jrwren> a my own q: use upgrade instead of dist-upgrade
[14:29] <brousch> rick_h: i just saw your team pic from budapest. you've lost a lot of weight since i last saw you. good job!
[14:34] <rick_h> thanks
[14:40] <jrwren> http://gizmodo.com/5901263/court-rules-it-is-impossible-to-steal-computer-code  I preduct that SCOTUS will overturn this case.
[15:01] <snap-l> greg-g: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1680-how-boiron-scammed-me-and-paid-for-it.html
[15:02] <snap-l> jrwren: I expect the scotus to overturn something specific to this case, but nothing more
[15:02] <snap-l> the SCOTUS doesn't give the broad sweeps that I wish it would.
[15:20] <rick_h> send help to the first person that ever sends me a MP with a doctest in it.
[15:20] <rick_h> the fury that will be unleashed...
[15:22] <jrwren> EVERY scotus ruling IS broad sweeping.
[15:22] <jrwren> MP ?
[15:22]  * jrwren sends rick_h an MP
[15:23] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleash_the_Fury
[15:23] <rick_h> jrwren: merge proposal sorry
[15:23] <rick_h> pull request, pick your term
[15:24] <jrwren> snap-l: I'm most amused that its posed on teh James Randi page.
[15:24] <jrwren> patch ?
[15:24] <rick_h> jrwren: sure, that'll count
[15:27] <snap-l> jrwren: Which, the homeopathy page?
[15:27] <snap-l> There's a whole foundation with James Randi's name on it
[15:27] <snap-l> The James Randi Educational Foundation (jref)
[15:28] <snap-l> I got JoDee a membership to it
[15:44] <jrwren> snap-l: yes, the homoepath page.
[15:44] <jrwren> yeah, Janice hosted James Randi for Ann ARbor Science and Sceptics.
[15:44] <jrwren> only reason I know of the guy
[15:45] <snap-l> He's the closest the skeptical community has to a religious figure.
[15:46] <ColonelPanic001> I don't believe that
[15:46] <jrwren> lol
[15:55] <greg-g> snap-l: re those accidental MUG announce mails: they're also in HTML :/
[15:55] <greg-g> ;)
[15:55] <snap-l> you're welcome.
[15:55]  * snap-l needs to split out a separate r2e instance for that.
[17:48] <rick_h> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android seems like a pretty sweet idea
[17:48] <rick_h> more clocks than KDE!
[17:49] <brousch> unpossible!
[18:02] <greg-g> btw, we had an honest to goodness thunderstorm in SF last night. That never happens. I mean, people who have lived here for over a decade said that there was more lightnight and thunder last night than the whole time they've been here
[18:02] <greg-g> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129246/Once-lifetime-picture-lightning-striking-San-Franciscos-Bay-Bridge.html
[18:03] <rick_h> yea, saw that pic, awesome
[18:04] <greg-g> and just so you aren't momemtarily confused like I was, that is the Bay Bridge, not the Golden Gate :)
[18:04] <greg-g> I know it is in the title/url/etc, but they also said "iconic" which most people would assume refers to the GG
[18:26] <snap-l> I thought that referred to the Greg Grossmeier
[18:26] <greg-g> haha, nice, I didn't even realize that when I typed it
[18:26] <greg-g> also, Rowan loved it. He was so intrigued by it all
[18:52] <greg-g> aha! i figured out the muttrc problem!
[18:52] <greg-g> now, just need to figure out how to fix it
[18:54] <greg-g> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/618/
[18:54] <greg-g> the problem and explanation ^^^ for those who care to look
[18:54]  * jrwren contemplates moving to mutt
[18:55] <rick_h> greg-g: is there a space in between sent and mail?
[18:55] <rick_h> if so you might have to escape it?
[18:55] <greg-g> I know it is an escaping issue, but man, I'm bad at remembering all the little.....
[18:55] <greg-g> hmmm
[18:56] <greg-g> yes, there is (stupid gmail's "imap" server implementation)
[18:56] <rick_h> folder-hook +mitechie.* set query_command='"goobook query \'%s\'"'
[18:56] <rick_h> so I've had to do that where I have spaces/etc in there
[18:57] <rick_h> folder-hook +mitechie.* set sendmail='"/usr/bin/msmtp -a mitechie"'
[18:57] <rick_h> same thing there
[18:57] <greg-g> w00t!
[18:57] <greg-g> that was it (adding the 's)
[18:57] <greg-g> thanks rick_h
[18:57] <rick_h> awesome
[18:57] <rick_h> np
[18:57] <greg-g> I'm so bad at remember the escaping rules
[18:58] <rick_h> yea, it's strange in there, I can't explain it, but know it works for my rules
[18:58] <greg-g> :)
[19:01] <greg-g> jrwren: do it, you'll have tons of config file support from rick_h  and I
[19:11] <jrwren> ok, i will.
[19:20] <jrwren> got a getting started guide?
[19:20] <jrwren> or should I just look for rich_h dotfiles on github?
[19:20] <rick_h> I don't keep my email stuff on github since it's pretty personal
[19:21] <rick_h> https://bmark.us/recent/mutt has some good mutt links/info
[20:09] <jrwren> multiaccount mutt looks like shit.
[20:10] <jrwren> I think I'll pass for now.
[20:53] <greg-g> jrwren: wha? nah, I love it
[20:53] <greg-g> I use 3 imap accounts plus 5 From: addresses with no problem
[20:55] <jrwren> all the multiacct things I saw looked ugly config
[21:12] <greg-g> config may be 'ugly' but use isn't.
[21:12] <greg-g> really, my sig/default FROM is auto-set based on which folder the email I am reply to is in (or which one I'm just looking at right now).
[21:13] <greg-g> but I can change the from: by just doing one of v1, v2, v3, v4, v5
[21:18] <greg-g> n0p: :) http://flixel.com/flixel/9fb92fe986fe799834ee
[21:19] <n0p> :-D
[22:39] <jcastro> rick_h: your gear get in yet?
[22:40] <jcastro> greg-g: that is one awesome pic
[23:26] <rick_h> jcastro: what gear?
[23:26] <rick_h> jrwren: I don't use the sidebar. I just use . and such to know which dirs have new email and jump to them
[23:27] <rick_h> jrwren: but I did end up aggregating my accounts into one single imap account I manage now
[23:53] <snap-l> greg-g: Those "Flixel" images (cinemagraphs) are CREEPY