[01:01] re: shaving soap. pretty much anything will work too. Ivory or Dove are both gental and super cheap. [01:02] don't skimp on brush. [01:02] I had a boar brush for a while, it was terrible. [01:02] Badger is where it is at. [01:19] jcastro: How does this remind you of me? [01:19] snap-l: no idea [01:19] like he'd be your brother or something [01:22] Ah, if I had a dopey brother that obsessed over shaving. [01:22] jcastro: for what is the witch hazel? [01:23] jcastro: I kind of a agree, though I don't think I saw it until you said something [01:29] jrwren: I think people use it for like an aftershave [01:29] and astrigen [01:34] yeah, i use it as an astringent, hopefully to minimize my pores, so I can be more perty :p [01:34] but I dunno what it does for my shaving. [01:34] i shall try it as aftershave. [01:34] TOMORROW! [01:42] I don't use it [01:42] I am trying to avoid turning into a crazy person [01:43] like audiophiles with cable elevators [01:51] jcastro: Too late [01:51] well, a pint of whichhazel is like $0.79 at meijer :) [01:51] I expect you to be putting ferrite cores in your bathroom [01:53] snap-l: oxygen free [01:57] jrwren: http://www.michiguide.com/archives2012/2012/04/newsmakers-and-links-april-12.html [01:59] wtf? [02:00] well that is great. I hope they get some $$$ and increase their signal [02:00] because its a weak signal even on campus [11:52] morning party people [12:09] Goooood morning [12:09] http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/12/2332239/indian-man-charged-with-blasphemy-for-exposing-miracle [12:44] anyone else get spammed by mug announce this morning ? [12:44] yea, last night got two of them for last tues's meetings [12:44] Yes, it's my fault [12:44] get him! [12:44] I've been playing with r2e, and accidentally did a reset [12:47] grrr, bzr die! [12:52] my poor mail server is getting hammered as well. :) [12:52] 337 feeds, some of which go back to 2007 [12:53] doesn't it limit it at all? [12:53] not well [12:53] I mean I load a feed into greader it only grabs the last 10 [12:53] ugh, that's off. My poor notmuch db would get hammered and seaching my email would be forever corrupt [12:53] There is a --no-send flag [12:54] but, when it runs in cron, there's not nuck you can do about it without killing it [12:54] finally got the old backups to the nas. Found out I copied an rsync command from their docs that did symlink copying which made for a much larger copy that I intended [12:54] Oh, lovely [12:55] yea, so ended up blowing away some stuff and restarting some backups [12:55] so only took a week to get the backups off, now to get the curent systems copying there now [12:57] i am experiencing the future, and it sucks [12:57] lol [12:57] what broke now brousch ? [12:57] We wanted to get a backup set of keys for the new used car [12:57] $230 [12:58] the key has some encryption chip in it that pairs with a chip in the ignition [12:58] ah yea [12:58] they have to program it, and only dealerships can do it [12:58] car keys these days...can't keep people out of hte cars, but they can try to keep them from starting it [12:59] $230 for a key. these guys have their dicks in the peanut butter [13:00] you know what it costed to have a guy come out and break into the car when my wife locked herself out? $45 [13:00] so she can lock herself out 5x for the price of a key [13:00] brousch: Even better are the rfid keys [13:01] expect those in the near future [13:01] rfid is cheap. that's the whole point [13:01] so some thief will still be able to hotwire your car, but he'll be able to do it from 50 feet away [13:01] so why does it cost $230 to put it in a key? [13:01] and you'll have to pay $500 for their newfangled keyfob [13:01] well if anyone at the dealership touched it you nkow you add $100 to it [13:02] brousch: the same reason it costs $600 for an in-dash radio that sounds worse than a college boombox [13:02] and the programmer probably costs the dealership $100,000,000 [13:02] that's maybe the most annoying part. only the dealership has the equipment to make a new key [13:02] yea, else break-ins would be easy! [13:02] locked in tighter than an iphone [13:02] brousch: Come to Detroit. I'm sure some warehouse somewhere has the same exact equipment [13:03] i mean come on, i live in grand rapids. my car is never going to be stolen [13:08] http://www.autotransponder.com/2009_subaru_forester_keys_and_keyless_entry_remotes [13:08] brousch: It'll be moved if you happen to park on a nickel, though. [13:08] Probably towed [13:08] so the key itself is $10 and the fob is $70. $70 for a nickle worth of plastick and a dollar in electronics [13:09] I <3 MUG [13:09] ? [13:09] Sent out a message about the r2e screw up [13:09] Hi Craig. [13:09] Do you have any experience with building home media pc that utilizes things like XMBC ? [13:09] lmao [13:09] *headdesk* [13:10] doh, krondor is doing his charm school at the same time as the web bof? booo [13:19] crap, can we edit the PC schedule stuff at all? Where's waldo... [13:19] * brousch snickers [13:19] sorry, couldn't help it [13:24] it was intentional :) [13:31] brousch: i have solved this exact key problem. [13:31] i just don't lock my car doors. [13:32] nice [13:32] i think i can get a remote door fob for cheap and program it myself [13:33] that will be good enough for now [13:33] still $70 [13:36] dist-upgrade is listing some NEW packages to be installed. how can I pin them as not install? [13:38] i found a programmable aftermarket fob for $40. at least i can open the doors even if i won't be able to start the car [13:45] a my own q: use upgrade instead of dist-upgrade [14:29] rick_h: i just saw your team pic from budapest. you've lost a lot of weight since i last saw you. good job! [14:34] thanks [14:40] http://gizmodo.com/5901263/court-rules-it-is-impossible-to-steal-computer-code I preduct that SCOTUS will overturn this case. [15:01] greg-g: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1680-how-boiron-scammed-me-and-paid-for-it.html [15:02] jrwren: I expect the scotus to overturn something specific to this case, but nothing more [15:02] the SCOTUS doesn't give the broad sweeps that I wish it would. [15:20] send help to the first person that ever sends me a MP with a doctest in it. [15:20] the fury that will be unleashed... [15:22] EVERY scotus ruling IS broad sweeping. [15:22] MP ? [15:22] * jrwren sends rick_h an MP [15:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleash_the_Fury [15:23] jrwren: merge proposal sorry [15:23] pull request, pick your term [15:24] snap-l: I'm most amused that its posed on teh James Randi page. [15:24] patch ? [15:24] jrwren: sure, that'll count [15:27] jrwren: Which, the homeopathy page? [15:27] There's a whole foundation with James Randi's name on it [15:27] The James Randi Educational Foundation (jref) [15:28] I got JoDee a membership to it [15:44] snap-l: yes, the homoepath page. [15:44] yeah, Janice hosted James Randi for Ann ARbor Science and Sceptics. [15:44] only reason I know of the guy [15:45] He's the closest the skeptical community has to a religious figure. [15:46] I don't believe that [15:46] lol [15:55] snap-l: re those accidental MUG announce mails: they're also in HTML :/ [15:55] ;) [15:55] you're welcome. [15:55] * snap-l needs to split out a separate r2e instance for that. [17:48] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android seems like a pretty sweet idea [17:48] more clocks than KDE! [17:49] unpossible! [18:02] btw, we had an honest to goodness thunderstorm in SF last night. That never happens. I mean, people who have lived here for over a decade said that there was more lightnight and thunder last night than the whole time they've been here [18:02] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2129246/Once-lifetime-picture-lightning-striking-San-Franciscos-Bay-Bridge.html [18:03] yea, saw that pic, awesome [18:04] and just so you aren't momemtarily confused like I was, that is the Bay Bridge, not the Golden Gate :) [18:04] I know it is in the title/url/etc, but they also said "iconic" which most people would assume refers to the GG [18:26] I thought that referred to the Greg Grossmeier [18:26] haha, nice, I didn't even realize that when I typed it [18:26] also, Rowan loved it. He was so intrigued by it all [18:52] aha! i figured out the muttrc problem! [18:52] now, just need to figure out how to fix it [18:54] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/618/ [18:54] the problem and explanation ^^^ for those who care to look [18:54] * jrwren contemplates moving to mutt [18:55] greg-g: is there a space in between sent and mail? [18:55] if so you might have to escape it? [18:55] I know it is an escaping issue, but man, I'm bad at remembering all the little..... [18:55] hmmm [18:56] yes, there is (stupid gmail's "imap" server implementation) [18:56] folder-hook +mitechie.* set query_command='"goobook query \'%s\'"' [18:56] so I've had to do that where I have spaces/etc in there [18:57] folder-hook +mitechie.* set sendmail='"/usr/bin/msmtp -a mitechie"' [18:57] same thing there [18:57] w00t! [18:57] that was it (adding the 's) [18:57] thanks rick_h [18:57] awesome [18:57] np [18:57] I'm so bad at remember the escaping rules [18:58] yea, it's strange in there, I can't explain it, but know it works for my rules [18:58] :) [19:01] jrwren: do it, you'll have tons of config file support from rick_h and I [19:11] ok, i will. [19:20] got a getting started guide? [19:20] or should I just look for rich_h dotfiles on github? [19:20] I don't keep my email stuff on github since it's pretty personal [19:21] https://bmark.us/recent/mutt has some good mutt links/info [20:09] multiaccount mutt looks like shit. [20:10] I think I'll pass for now. [20:53] jrwren: wha? nah, I love it [20:53] I use 3 imap accounts plus 5 From: addresses with no problem [20:55] all the multiacct things I saw looked ugly config [21:12] config may be 'ugly' but use isn't. [21:12] really, my sig/default FROM is auto-set based on which folder the email I am reply to is in (or which one I'm just looking at right now). [21:13] but I can change the from: by just doing one of v1, v2, v3, v4, v5 [21:18] n0p: :) http://flixel.com/flixel/9fb92fe986fe799834ee [21:19] :-D [22:39] rick_h: your gear get in yet? [22:40] greg-g: that is one awesome pic [23:26] jcastro: what gear? [23:26] jrwren: I don't use the sidebar. I just use . and such to know which dirs have new email and jump to them [23:27] jrwren: but I did end up aggregating my accounts into one single imap account I manage now [23:53] greg-g: Those "Flixel" images (cinemagraphs) are CREEPY