[00:16] <BrianMasinick> Just stopping in to say "Hi" as I install Beta 2 of Xubuntu 12.04; have had great success with several previous versions.
[00:21] <BrianMasinick> Looks as if the installation is almost over: the GRUB selections are being created using "update-grub".
[00:22] <BrianMasinick> I hope this release uses the Debian firmware-b43-installer package instead of that old Broadcom STA driver for wireless firmware.
[03:44] <Superbest> Hi, I'm using the xubuntu 11.10 alternate install cd for i386 from a usb drive and my install is failing on the "select and install software" step
[03:46] <holstein> Superbest: i would confirm the ISO.. i would try formatting the stick..i would try the other image.. i would try a CD, or a different stick
[03:47] <Superbest> I tried the first two
[03:47] <FerchoLP> I'm not sure what "alternate" version is for. I've always used regular iso with Unetbootin both to install from usb and use the live version
[03:47] <Superbest> third isn't an option, I need drive encryption
[03:47] <holstein> Superbest: the alternates are challening to use with USB.. so maybe try a CD
[03:48] <Superbest> I wish I had an empty cd close by
[03:49] <Superbest> Apparently the following packages are causing problems: memtest86+, man-db, ubuntu-standard, ntfs-3g, ufw, irqbalance, openssh-client, popularity-contest, apparmor, ca-certificates, libcurl3-gnutls, apt-transport-https
[03:49] <Superbest> ring any bells?
[03:50] <holstein> Superbest: sure, if the image is bad
[03:50] <holstein> or the stick
[03:50] <Superbest> but the md5 is fine
[03:50] <Superbest> and I tried unetbootin and lili
[03:50] <Superbest> and both get the same thing
[03:51] <holstein> cool... i would try a different stick..i always format before
[03:51] <Superbest> i did format
[03:51] <holstein> i literally just *never* use the alternate images anymore with USB
[03:53] <FerchoLP> I'm running Xubuntu 11.10. I have /home in a separate partition. If I do a fresh install of Xubuntu 12.04, is it expected to work? I know simple programs like  .dropbox, .filezilla and that kind of stuff won't be a problem, but will I have problems with folders like .libreoffice, .gconf, .config/xfce4 ?
[03:54] <holstein> shouldnt matter.. try it.. and try #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support FerchoLP
[03:54] <FerchoLP> ok, thanks :)
[10:34] <noname120> I get issues with wireless :
[10:34] <noname120> I've a broadcom wifi chip with the driver installed
[10:35] <noname120> I've the networking applet but this one only allow to connect to a wired connection: I can't see the wireless access points... How can I fix it ?
[10:42] <Os_Maleus> noname120: try to reboot. if it won't work out, You need to find out what adapter is built in into Your machine.
[10:42] <Os_Maleus> noname120: ... and google for solutions.
[10:42] <noname120> I boot hundred times
[10:42] <noname120> My wifi chip works great on backtrack
[10:43] <noname120> I can't find any
[10:43] <noname120> How can I check if my wifi chip is activated ?
[10:48] <Os_Maleus> should work somehow with the information of lsmod
[10:50] <Os_Maleus> but You need to say as well, which machine You are running, if You expect seriously helpful answers.
[10:59] <SandJ> What is the provided / recommended text search utility for Xubuntu?   That is, I want to search a directory structure for any file containing "some text".  (I have tried Catfish with "Fulltext search" but it either fails to find anything or returns "Fatal error, search was aborted")
[10:59] <noname120> I run xubuntu on my external harddrive: I've a broadcom wifi chip and i installed the driver with the software provided on xubuntu.
[11:00] <noname120> Broadcom 43XX  IIRC
[11:04] <Os_Maleus> broadcom is having trouble with the drivers for the adapter, which is managing the bluetooth and the wifi simultanously.
[11:12] <Os_Maleus> noname120: http://pastebin.com/ZnPE0vpc
[11:12] <Os_Maleus> noname120: that is how I have solved it. I need to leave now. sorry!
[11:13] <noname120> thanks
[12:13] <SandJ> I have worked out the answer to my own "best text search tool" question.  It is to install the gnome-search-tool package.
[12:32] <xubuntu405> I am working on customizing xubuntu 11.10. I want to place two shortcut icons on the desktop. What directory is responsible for holding these files?
[12:34] <xubuntu405> I have two xubuntus installed. One is a testing environment and the other is the customization one. In the testing environment I have made two shortcuts and now I need to place them in a proper directory in the customized installation environment. I don't know this directory.
[12:40] <SandJ> Is it a file in directory ~/Desktop called whatever containing [Desktop Entry] and Name=Whatever Program v7
[12:42] <SandJ> Or in your case, copy the contents of ~/Desktop from the testing environment to your customization environment.
[12:45] <loppy> hello?
[12:45] <SandJ> Hello.
[12:46] <loppy> do you like grilled cheese?
[12:46] <SandJ> Is that a Synaptic Package?
[12:47] <loppy> no, it is a sandwitch
[12:48] <SandJ> My Ubuntu netbook came with Cheese webcam software, if that helps.  But it did not have any "grill" function.
[12:48] <SandJ> Sandwitch?  Is that the repository?
[12:51] <loppy> ok my netbook came with a webcam but how can i get it to work in Xubuntu i can only get it to work with the windows7 that it came with
[12:52] <loppy> SandJ?
[12:54] <loppy> hello?
[12:54] <loppy> volar mini?
[12:55] <loppy> ben_says?
[13:01] <SandJ> @loppy, does your netbook have a CD drive?  If not, do you have an external CD drive you can plug into it?
[13:02] <loppy> no i dont have a cd drive
[13:03] <SandJ> That's a shame, installing from CD is easiest.  Will it boot from a bootable USB memory stick?
[13:04] <loppy> yes it can
[13:05] <SandJ> Here are some non-CD drive options: http://www.jonlee.ca/installing-xubuntu-without-a-cd-drive-the-weekend-project-continued/
[13:06] <SandJ> USB stick method: download the Xubuntu .ISO you want, then follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:07] <loppy> ok thank you! i will try this out...
[13:08] <SandJ> You're welcome.  Enjoy your Welsh Rarebit.  :-)
[13:08] <loppy> it is working! thanks!
[14:41] <STC> yo - babble  u there?
[14:41] <babble> STC: mostly, yeah
[14:42] <STC> cool, running xubuntu live on usb, seems smoother than wubi!
[14:42] <babble> did you get a USB drive made with a writeable filesystem?
[14:42] <babble> ah, told you it would :)
[14:42] <STC> yeh this is perfect for me
[14:42] <babble> it's not trying to shoehorn a complete Xubuntu environment into the application available RAM on that machine now.
[14:42] <STC> yeh
[14:42] <babble> WUBI is more-or-less akin to running in a VM
[14:42] <STC> oh wow
[14:43] <babble> The other thing you can do is get a small portable drive and do a Xubuntu installation on that
[14:44] <STC> would that be faster than usb? most portable drives are usb right?
[14:44] <babble> well, it depends on the portable hd of course, but nearly any would be generally faster than a flash drive.
[14:45] <STC> eek
[14:45] <babble> just as a rough example: I have SanDisk cruzer flash drives I use as installation media instead of CD/DVD media - a clean, nuke the system partition and reinstall from those is ~20-30 mins
[14:45] <STC> getting bursts of lagg
[14:45] <STC> like freezing
[14:45] <STC> and this thing called debconf keeps popping up
[14:46] <babble> I have my portable HD I image my system to, and that's a live system you can install from. Installing from THAT is ~5 mins
[14:46] <babble> it's probably the flash drive you're using
[14:46] <STC> nice
[14:46] <STC> ah
[14:46] <babble> and debconf is trying to configure something you've installed.
[14:46] <STC> yeah this pendrive is from like 2006, data traveler 2gb
[14:47] <STC> yeah i am installing chromium as we speak - just finished
[14:47] <babble> you probably don't have much room left over for the casper writeable image. Don't install too much on it
[14:47] <STC> everythings smoother now though
[14:47] <STC> yeah
[14:47] <babble> what you ideally want is a cheap ~50-100gb portable hd to do this on
[14:47] <STC> gonna try to get wine and run jedi academy which is installed on my xp , gonna try to go through the xp filesystem and run the .exe
[14:47] <Guest74131> hello
[14:47] <STC> cool
[14:47] <babble> I wouldn't, from that flash drive
[14:48] <babble> it's probably going to be painfully slow
[14:48] <babble> hiya Guest74131
[14:48] <STC> this is just temporary tbh, i have a good gaming pc, but i had some issues and had to come back to live with parents
[14:49] <STC> otherise first thing id do is get moar ram!! lol
[14:49] <babble> hehe.
[14:49] <babble> these days, ideally, you want 1gb or more to run Xubuntu comfortably
[14:49] <STC> yeh
[14:49] <STC> even xp i like 2gb for gaming
[14:49] <STC> at least
[14:50] <Sysi> XP :(
[14:50] <STC> xubuntu! :)
[14:50] <Guest74131> hey guys, someone may recommend me a distro for a AMD 1,6gh 256 RAM 80 hd , i have xubuntu now but my system don't work lightly with it, sorry for my bad english
[14:51] <babble> Guest74131: for folks looking for lightweight, most folks seem to gravitate to Lubuntu, if you want a lightweight Ubuntu distro
[14:52] <Guest74131> and support torrent download
[14:52] <babble> any current desktop environment should support a torrent client, depending on which client you want; if you use Lubuntu/LXDE, you probably don't want to use a KDE torrent client, as it'll need plenty of KDE dependencies to run
[14:54] <Guest74131> umm, linux is more hard for a novel that i suppose ...jejje
[14:54] <babble> Guest74131: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
[14:55] <Guest74131> i never work with linux
[14:55] <Guest74131> and i have a old pc
[14:55] <babble> Guest74131: by, 'hard for a novel' do you mean you need an office suite?
[14:55] <Guest74131> that i want to use for download, navigate, etc
[14:56] <Sysi> linux won't make that machine new, it will be slow anyway
[14:56] <babble> Guest74131: if you want to stay with Ubuntu, but you want something lighter-weight than Xubuntu, try Lubuntu. But, yes, it won't magically be dramatically faster.
[14:56] <Sysi> but lubuntu should have everything for basic usage by default
[14:56] <Guest74131> and i think in linux cause is more ligth than windows
[14:57] <Guest74131> i try lubuntu, so
[14:58] <Guest74131> i try vector linux and is more ligth, but so much difficult for a novel , this is that i mean before
[14:58] <Sysi> also, if there's ubuntu channel using your native language, they should know about lubuntu and xubuntu too
[14:58] <Guest74131> xubuntu is more easy because is more similar to windows
[14:59] <babble> Guest74131: I'm still not sure what you mean, but if you want a decent, all-around word processor, and you need an alternative to LibreOffice, you may have a look at Abiword
[14:59] <Guest74131> jejeje
[14:59] <Guest74131> i don't know how i enter in my native chat XD
[14:59] <Guest74131> but you all are more kindly
[14:59] <SandJ> @Guest74131, that 256 MB RAM is very low.  It will be very slow.
[14:59] <Sysi> babble: I guess hea means "newbie" with "novel"
[14:59] <Sysi> !sp
[15:00] <Sysi> !es
[15:00] <babble> Sysi: I'd thought of that, too, but I'm taking a bit of a shot in the dark.
[15:00] <Guest74131> ow yes, newbie, i sorry XD i am spanish
[15:00] <Guest74131> gracias ubottu
[15:01] <Guest74131> thaks for all!
[15:22] <grifo74> hello how i see my shared folders in thunar
[15:23] <Sysi> find them with gigolo
[15:23] <grifo74> how__
[15:24] <STC> i lovesss xubuntu - makes my slow pc zoom zoom
[15:25] <grifo74> in past i use pclinuxos xfce and in thunar exist a icon to see network
[15:28] <babble> grifo74: if you're in a current version of thunar, you can also get a network browser in Thunar, if you like.
[15:29] <babble> grifo74: Do Ctrl-L and do:
[15:29] <babble> network:///
[15:31] <grifo74> network:/// after ctrl L notihing apen
[15:31] <babble> grifo74: do you have gvfs-backends installed?
[15:32] <grifo74> no
[15:32] <grifo74> thnaks i go install
[15:32] <babble> grifo74: in your terminal, do:
[15:32] <babble> sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[15:38] <grifo74> work perfectly
[15:52] <STC> silly question, but how do i change the time? its wrong and cant find any setting to change it
[15:54] <babble> in Gnome Control Center, see Date & Time
[15:55] <babble> You can also open the launcher for it directly in /usr/share/applications
[16:02] <STC> cool thanks
[16:10] <babble> sigh
[16:10] <babble> it looks like lag is going to stalk me all day
[16:12] <STC> aw
[16:12] <STC> hey i notice i cant trash any files, just SHIFT + DEL perma delete
[16:12] <babble> you're using the live user
[16:13] <babble> to trash anything in the usual way, you need to install on something and log into a user account
[16:13] <STC> thats the one i am suposed to do right?
[16:13] <STC> ah
[16:13] <babble> the system you're logged into isn't intended to be a permanent system
[16:13] <STC> i see
[16:13] <STC> with my 1.2gb filesystem lol
[16:13] <babble> hehe.
[16:14] <babble> like I said, if you want to *keep* a portable system, you'll want something roomy enough you can install on and have a regular home directory, etc.
[16:14] <STC> yeh
[18:16] <nikihr> Hey is it possible to remove the ugly "handle" on windows in the bottom right corner?
[18:17] <babble> nikihr: with a different xfwm/gtk theme, probably
[18:18] <babble> I use a frameless window theme, but some apps (thunar, a couple of others) will still draw a resize thumb
[18:18] <babble> but with an unobtrusive gtk theme, it's not much to notice.
[18:21] <babble> nikihr: see: http://ubuntuone.com/1rR0TaOSzqs9ypUeF9JrP5
[18:26] <nikihr> babble: http://imgur.com/23ygC
[18:27] <babble> nikihr: for terminal, without grabbing the source yourself, I don't think there
[18:27] <babble> there's an easy way to get rid of the thumb.
[18:27] <babble> for everything else, experiment with a different gtk theme you may like better
[18:28] <nikihr> its only for xubuntu users
[18:28] <nikihr> i had fedora with same xfce version and this problem wasnt there
[18:29] <babble> I don't regularly use other distros, so I can't help you troubleshoot differences between Fedora and Ubuntu.
[18:30] <babble> some folks on sites like Deviantart claim that Ubuntu and Debian packagers regularly make changes to their gtk packages that make theming for them do unexpected things, so if that's true, it may be because of that
[18:30] <nikihr> :(
[18:30] <nikihr> annoying :P
[18:30] <babble> if you prefer fedora, why not just stick with Xfce in Fedora?
[18:31] <nikihr> i never said i prefered fedora
[18:31] <nikihr> :P
[18:31] <nikihr> i want ubuntu
[18:31] <babble> if you're bound and determined to look for issues, you'll find them.
[18:35] <babble> in any case, if it's true that it's coming from either Ububtu or Debian upstream, it may be something to take up in appropriate channels with folks who can do something to suit your taste.
[18:46] <holstein> nikihr: you might see a way to login to an XFCE session instead of xubuntu-desktop
[18:46] <holstein> you dont have to use xubuntu to get xfce in ubuntu
[18:47] <nikihr> i can try that :)
[18:49] <nikihr> still the same :(
[18:50] <holstein> nikihr: i didnt mean to suggest that would be an  easy fix for whatever youf issue is
[18:50] <holstein> im suggesting that might be a more "default" place to start
[18:50] <holstein> if you are concerned about the ubuntu repackaged versions of XFCE
[18:50] <babble> it may be a specific design decision that Ubuntu packagers have made, to try and draw a resize thumb as a user experience issue.
[18:51] <babble> I can't say for certain that claims made on Deviant, say, are true; just that I can see UX argument for it, if it is true.
[18:52] <holstein> well, deviant doesnt make an operating system, and that is fact
[18:53] <babble> holstein: oh, I know. I'm thinking specifically of claims that get made like the comment thread here: http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/journal/Confussling-292596160#comments
[18:53] <babble> I'm not saying that Deviant commenters are right or wrong on the issue, necessarily
[18:53] <holstein> yeah, im just presenting the idea that they *could* be wrong
[18:54] <babble> I *am* saying that if it's true that either Ubuntu or Debian packagers have made specific changes to their gtk packages, I can see a user experience argument for trying to draw a resize thumb even if a given theme says not to
[19:00] <holstein> most folks really appreciate and take advantage of the ubuntu packaging that seems to make things easier... unless it doesnt.. then you probably need to explore other avenues
[19:08] <grifo74> hi people one software to make folder backups like fwbackup
[19:08] <babble> grifo74: I do /home backups with rsync.
[19:09] <babble> I'll post my backup script and walk you through what it's doing, if you want
[19:09] <grifo74> ok give me the script
[19:10] <babble> here's the core script:
[19:10] <babble> http://paste.ubuntu.com/928384/
[19:10] <babble> that reads from an exclusions file, which I'll also post.
[19:11] <babble> Exclusions:
[19:11] <babble> http://paste.ubuntu.com/928387/
[19:11] <babble> the exclusions file tells rsync not to try and copy from any of my usual network mounts
[19:12] <babble> the core command is this line:
[19:12] <babble> rsync -av --delete --progress --exclude-from /home/wardc/Documents/scripts/rsync-exclusions.txt /home/wardc /home/wardc/Locations/rsync-backup/wardc-backup
[19:13] <babble> that backs up the contents of /home/wardc to a folder on a mounted drive
[19:13] <babble> will that work for what you need?
[19:14] <grifo74> very interesting i go try
[19:14] <babble> you'll need to modify it for your home folder, of course, and your backup location.
[19:14] <babble> we'll go over the rsync options, if you like.
[19:15] <babble> (or if you're backing up something other than /home, modify it for your source and your target folders, of course)
[19:16] <grifo74> thanks it's all i need
[19:16] <babble> :)
[19:24] <lJ6il> Hello there, I'm trying to activate line-in input in Xubuntu
[19:24] <lJ6il> But i can't... Alsamixer doesn't know a line-in input and amixer either
[19:28] <babble> that should be doable in JACK
[19:28] <babble> give me a minute to dig around a bit
[19:33] <babble> what's your audio recording app?
[19:35] <lJ6il> i tried a few
[19:35] <lJ6il> audacity, audio-recorder...
[19:35] <babble> Audacity is JACK aware (and probably several others)
[19:36] <babble> you should be able to set up line-in routing from your card's line-in input in JACK
[19:36] <babble> QJackCtl is a GUI frontend for JACK
[19:40] <lJ6il> ok so i install qjackctl ?
[19:40] <babble> and related JACK dependencies, yes.
[19:40] <lJ6il> ok thanks for your help babble :)
[19:40] <babble> np :)
[19:41] <lJ6il> apt-get is asking me if i want to activate real time process blablabla (don't know how to translate it in english :D)
[19:42] <lJ6il> real time process management, maybe ?
[19:43] <babble> you likely don't need to worry about realtime process management, and you'll need a realtime enabled kernel if you end up wanting it
[19:43] <babble> what's your computer?
[19:44] <lJ6il> ok
[19:44] <lJ6il> a small laptop
[19:44] <lJ6il> eeepc
[19:44] <babble> what processor speed?
[19:44] <lJ6il> oh... mmm i know it's a core 2 duo and i use xubuntu 64 bits
[19:44] <lJ6il> but the processor speed... :D
[19:44] <babble> an intel core should be fine.
[19:44] <babble> don't worry about realtime bits
[19:45] <lJ6il> ok :)
[19:45] <lJ6il> it's installed :)
[19:45] <babble> if you get strange dropouts in your resulting recording, come back and we'll get you an rt kernel (but these aren't under active development anymore, as far as I know, so there's that)
[19:46] <babble> open QJackCtl and look in Setup and in Input and you should be able to set your Line In jack as the input device
[19:46] <babble> then start the Jack server (the green start button in QJackCtl
[19:46] <babble> then, in Audacity, set JACK as your audio input and you're good to go
[19:47] <lJ6il> ok thanks
[19:49] <lJ6il> babble, as input, jack suggests me "by default", "hw:0", "plughw:0", "/dev/audio", and "/dev/dsp"
[19:49] <lJ6il> what should i choose ?
[19:49] <babble> look in the popout menu next to that
[19:49] <babble> if it can figure out your card's line in jack, it should be in there.
[19:50] <babble> the device names will be cryptic, but whatever it can identify for those devices will be in the pullout menu next to that
[19:51] <babble> are you certain that your eeepc *has* a line-in jack, and not a std. line-level mic input?
[19:51] <lJ6il> "hw:0 HDA Intel", and "hw:0,0 ALC269VB Analog"
[19:51] <babble> analog input should be the microphone port
[19:51] <lJ6il> actually, i don't know, maybe i'm on the wrong path
[19:51] <lJ6il> I'm trying to record an external source
[19:52] <babble> if you wanted a line-in jack specifically, you need a hardware port that's actually a line-in (i.e. not dependent on a volume level from the source)
[19:52] <babble> line-in means something different from a microphone port, typically
[19:52] <lJ6il> i have an olympus digital voice recorder, and i'd like to recorder it
[19:52] <babble> how are you patching output from the recorder into your eeepc?
[19:53] <lJ6il> i already have an internal mic, but i connected my external source in the external microphone input of my computer
[19:53] <lJ6il> male-male cable
[19:54] <babble> in the input section in JACK, that should be the analog port it's identifying as hw:0,0
[19:54] <lJ6il> don't know exactly how it's called, but it the same we use as headphone
[19:54] <babble> (that mic input on the eeepc)
[19:54] <lJ6il> ok
[19:54] <babble> that's not really the same thing as a line-in jack, which means something specific
[19:55] <babble> line-in and line-level are what audio geeks use to describe input ports.
[19:55] <babble> line-in doesn't care about the volume level of the source, as long as there's a signal.
[19:55] <babble> line-level *does* care about the volume level of the source, i.e. a microphone port
[19:56] <lJ6il> Great ! It works ! :)
[19:56] <babble> there you go
[19:56] <babble> because that's very likely a line-level port, check your recorded audio for peaking
[19:57] <lJ6il> ok :)
[19:57] <babble> and reduce the volume on the olympus recorder if you're getting clipping
[19:58] <lJ6il> ok. I will try that.
[19:58] <lJ6il> Anyway, thank's for your help
[19:58] <babble> without installing other stuff which I haven't sorted through yet, Jack will override Pulse when the Jack server is running
[19:58] <lJ6il> see you soon babble :)
[19:58] <babble> see you soon :)
[20:05] <noname120> hi$
[20:05] <noname120> Iget issues connecting to wireless net w
[20:06] <noname120> network with my broadcom 43xx wifi card : I've xubuntu and I installed the driver, the network manager of xubuntu don't show the wireless connections
[20:06] <noname120> I tried to install wicd but this can't find any network neither
[20:07] <noname120> But with backtrack, a bunch of wireless network are found and I can connect on them
[20:07] <noname120> How can I fix my xubuntu ?
[20:09] <noname120> hope Sysi or oxic , maybe raevol or why not nikolam could answer
[20:10] <raevol> noname120: this channel is pretty slow for support answers, since that is a driver/hardware issue, you may find better help in #ubuntu
[20:10] <jola> hi. after a BSOD I can't boot windows anymore. grub says "error: no such device: B248C33048C2F261. error: no such disk". the BSOD said: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL [...] NDIS.SYS [...], and when it occured I hadn't been starting any programs for quite a while, I was just writing an email in firefox when it suddenly happened. I'm dual booting windows xp and xubuntu. I'm on xubuntu now, the windows partition doesn't appear in Thunar (
[20:10] <jola> the file manager) either. but "fdisk -l" shows the partition (also marked as bootable). I want to use xubuntu to check for what's causing the issue but I don't know what it could be or what to test for and how. some driver screwed with the partition
[20:10] <noname120> raevol : thanks I'll go on #ubuntu then
[20:29] <Os_Maleus> hi noname120!
[20:29] <Os_Maleus> noname120: did You try my proposal?
[20:30] <Os_Maleus> noname120: You need to put some three drivers to the blacklist.
[20:30] <Os_Maleus> noname120: like I told: the issue is about the wrong (or infinite) driver for the broadcom-adapter.
[20:31] <noname120> hi Os_Maleus : great that you're here !
[20:31] <noname120> 1) I didn't understand what I had to do
[20:31] <noname120> 2) The paste has expired
[20:32] <Os_Maleus> noname120: that one is built in in several machines. Dell has built it in into some of their machines and Lenovo in some of their Ideapads as well. (lucky I am, I have one of those Ideapads.)
[20:32] <Os_Maleus> did You save that for Yourself?
[20:33] <Os_Maleus> noname120: generate that file with the name and trace given in the first line.
[20:33] <Os_Maleus> that one should do it actually.
[20:34] <noname120> Os_Maleus : I didn't think you set an expire time so I haven't the backup
[20:34] <noname120> Basically, I need to replace the file ? But how do i that ? I've no access of the file
[20:35] <Os_Maleus> if it doesn't, You should restart once under Win, change the setting in the way that You switch on the WiFi, and the bluetooth off. then, the module should be recognized in the WiFi-on-setting and You should be able to use the WiFi - no matter which manager You are using.
[20:36] <Os_Maleus> the Network manager has actually more features and more possibilities for putting settings.
[20:37] <Os_Maleus> noname120: note: information is never for waste. ... and I didn't want to make everything available to the end of internet-time. ;-)
[20:37] <noname120> I can't boot on windows : my HDD has bad sectors and I'm booting on my external hardrive where I installed xubuntu for that purpose
[20:38] <Os_Maleus> You don't need to replace the file. You just need to add additional lines into that.
[20:38] <noname120> ok
[20:38] <Os_Maleus> okay, wait a sec! I will generate such paste again.
[20:39] <noname120> thank
[20:39] <noname120> s
[20:40] <Os_Maleus> You came actually pretty much in last second. just wanted to leave. :-)
[20:40] <noname120> ok
[20:40] <noname120> great
[20:41] <noname120> So I'm waiting and please stay a few seconds after for support :)
[20:42] <noname120> Os_Maleus : how long will this need to create the paste ?
[20:42] <Os_Maleus> noname120: are You newbe under Linux?
[20:42] <noname120> kinda
[20:43] <noname120> I nver touched to system files
[20:43] <noname120> only few things like compiling ./configure etc
[20:43] <noname120> I'm a programmer but I was lastly on windows
[20:43] <noname120> (probably for that king of problems under linux)
[20:45] <Os_Maleus> first, You have to backup that file from /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf to where ever You want to. open terminal and write there something like 'mkdir Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/ ; cp /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/ '
[20:46] <Os_Maleus> this will generate You a folder in Templates under Your user directory.
[20:47] <Os_Maleus> You can change the name of the file to something like etc-usb_modeswitch.conf-ori ... then You know that this had been Your initial and original file.
[20:48] <Os_Maleus> copy it under a different name (like etc-usb_modeswitch.conf-mut01) to overwork it.
[20:48] <noname120> I got issues
[20:48] <noname120> noname@NicePC:~/Documents$ mkdir Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/ ; cp /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/  mkdir: cannot create directory `Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/': No such file or directory cp: cannot create regular file `Templates/Systemconfiguration-Files/': No such file or directory noname@NicePC:~/Documents$
[20:50] <Os_Maleus> and then You can copy that back to the system folder with 'sudo cp [source] [destiny]'
[20:51] <noname120> I think that I'll install backtrack-linux on my computer instead: that will be much easier
[20:51] <Os_Maleus> 'noname@NicePC:~/Documents$' tells me that You are located in Your directory, named Documents. You need to change into /home/noname by 'cd /home/noname' or 'cd ..'
[20:52] <Os_Maleus> with blackubuntu, my machine is generating only a black display, even running under the trial-system. ;-)
[20:52] <noname120> blackubuntu ? what's that ?
[20:53] <Os_Maleus> http://pastebin.com/iNgfCcyf
[20:53] <Os_Maleus> blackubuntu or blacktrack ... similar. both behave the same on my machine.
[20:54] <noname120> it's backtrack , not blacktrack
[20:54] <Os_Maleus> and until You don't know what You are doing, it doesn't matter which system You are using. ... ubuntu/xubuntu is more save in this sense.
[20:54] <Os_Maleus> ;-)
[20:55] <noname120> of course
[20:55] <Os_Maleus> http://pastebin.com/iNgfCcyf
[20:55] <noname120> but backtrack roks without any modifications
[20:55] <Os_Maleus> save this paste as an additional file to be able to compare it with Your original!
[20:55] <Os_Maleus> ... for later as well.
[20:58] <Os_Maleus> noname120: to see if any relevant drivers are loaded, tipe: lsmod | grep 'b43 \| bcma \| wl'
[20:59] <noname120> I give up
[21:00] <Os_Maleus> If any of these are installed, remove them (as root)! ... 'sudo rmmod b43', or 'sudo rmmod bcma' or 'sudo rmmod wl'
[21:00] <noname120> I'll reinstall my OS as backtrack : this will be easier this way
[21:00] <noname120> But I keep this file in safe if I need this later thanks
[21:01] <Os_Maleus> sure! with that You are mistiping something and can reinstall the whole thing again. ... wish You fun!
[21:01] <Os_Maleus> *mistyping
[21:02] <noname120> That's the most convenient way
[21:02] <noname120> I don't wanna spend hours to make it work
[21:02] <Os_Maleus> but I admit: I needed 5 months to figure out what the thing was about. ... with the help of SEVERAL friends from the IT.
[21:02] <noname120> Backtrack will make it work in one second
[21:02] <Os_Maleus> if it does, then it is an option, of course.
[21:03] <noname120> I just find that Broadcom sucks: their driver should work correctly without modifications etc
[21:03] <Os_Maleus> but with that Your OS is more exposed. Your system more worn-able.
[21:03] <noname120> I would have done it if it were easy but unfortunaly is it a pin
[21:03] <Os_Maleus> should I tell You something?
[21:03] <noname120> "Your OS is more exposed. Your system more worn-able." <-- ??
[21:03] <Os_Maleus> Backtrack is based on Debian. ;-)
[21:04] <noname120> I know
[21:04] <Os_Maleus> xubuntu is as well.
[21:04] <Os_Maleus> ;-)
[21:04] <noname120> But it bundled with many drivers
[21:04] <noname120> i chose xubuntu 'cause it was supposed to run faster than ubuntu etc
[21:04] <noname120> But it seems that KDE is fine too
[21:04] <Os_Maleus> under backtrack, You have a root-profile existent. under xubuntu not.
[21:05] <noname120> what does it change ?
[21:05] <noname120> I've an idea: I install teamviewer and if you're nice then you control my computer to configure it yourself since I'm too new to linux's world
[21:06] <noname120> Do you accept ?
[21:06] <Os_Maleus> if somebody wants to hack Your pc (and You as a programmer should know about!?) then he just needs to hack Your root-password. under xubuntu, there is no root. thus, nothing to hack. ;)
[21:06] <Os_Maleus> I can perhaps help You then better.
[21:07] <Os_Maleus> but to configure it, You should work on that Yourself. ;-)
[21:07] <Os_Maleus> but let's try it.
[21:53] <martinphone> why cant I edit a file in etc/privoxy?
[21:53] <martinphone> will it work if I use nautilus?
[21:56] <Os_Maleus> martinphone: try it as sudo!
[21:56] <xubuntu829> hi
[21:56] <martinphone> Os_Maleus, how? I need to open an edito to edit the file
[21:57] <Os_Maleus> terminal ... sudo gedit [file-path]
[21:57] <babble> Os_Maleus: you likely want to use gksudo to start a root gedit session.
[21:58] <Os_Maleus> you can always open files. just saving them won't work out, if You don't use it as sudo.
[21:58] <Os_Maleus> babble: for me it worked out with simple sudo.
[21:58] <babble> gksudo for gui apps.
[21:58] <babble> Os_Maleus: It will work most of the time.
[21:58] <babble> the problem is when it causes something unpredictable, because sudo doesn't know or care about your desktop environment
[21:58] <Os_Maleus> okay. ... I konow that You, babble, have more experience. :-)
[21:59] <babble> gksu and gksudo do
[21:59] <Os_Maleus> okay. I see. thanks for explanation and the correction!
[21:59] <noname> hi again
[22:00] <Guest55346> damn "You failed to identify in time for the nickname noname
[22:00] <Guest55346> * You are now known as Guest55346"
[22:01] <babble> Guest55346: if you're noname, you can still log into nickserv and identify
[22:01] <martinphone> sudo gedit /etc/privoxy/config does not work, have i written that correctly?
[22:01] <martinphone> command not found
[22:02] <knome> martinphone, gksudo mousepad /etc/privoxy/config
[22:03] <martinphone> knome, the command didnt open an editor...
[22:04] <knome> martinphone, it should open a password prompt, because editing that file needs root access
[22:05] <martinphone> knome, not here
[22:05] <knome> what "not here" ?
[22:05] <martinphone> that it does nothing... no password prompt, no nothing
[22:05] <martinphone> do I need any package?
[22:06] <knome> shouldn't. are you running 12.04?
[22:06] <martinphone> yes, beta2
[22:06] <knome> ok, in that case, replace mousepad with leafpad
[22:07] <martinphone> that worked knome
[22:07] <martinphone> but why do I get five: #this directs ALL requests to the tor proxy
[22:07] <martinphone> forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 .
[22:07] <martinphone> #this forwards all requests to I2P domains to the local I2P
[22:07] <martinphone> #proxy without dns requests
[22:07] <martinphone> forward .i2p localhost:4444
[22:07] <martinphone> #this forwards all requests to Freenet domains to the local Freenet node
[22:08] <martinphone> #proxy without dns requests
[22:08] <martinphone> forward ksk@ localhost:8888
[22:08] <martinphone> forward ssk@ localhost:8888
[22:08] <martinphone> forward chk@ localhost:8888
[22:08] <martinphone> forward svk@ localhost:8888
[22:08] <martinphone> sorry
[22:08] <knome> !pastebin
[22:08] <martinphone> (leafpad:3745): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory
[22:08] <martinphone> sorry again
[22:08] <martinphone> for the long string
[22:08] <knome> ummh, just forget the warning
[22:33] <diablillo> buenas
[22:33] <knome> hullo
[23:15] <n2diy> How do I termine which audio device my sys. is using?