[00:07] <clashingwave> Hello all I'm wondering if anyone has a fix for the problem in Kde where If I set my panels to hid and run a full screen program, I can't click in the  program where the panel reveals at. Is there a way to stop it from doing this?
[00:25] <BluesKaj> clashingwave, try the escape key
[01:29] <BluesKaj> clashingwave, which "program" , if it's a video , which player ?
[01:46] <clashingwave> BluesKaj, it's a virtual machine, but it also happens in gewnview
[03:29] <_rob_> i have kubuntu 12.04 running on my laptop and everything was working fine until I just ran `apt-get upgrade` and now my wifi is broken. I cannot even turn it on. Anyone know how to fix this?
[03:30] <_rob_> im guessing it replace my drivers with the wrong ones but i have no idea
[03:33] <rapidsp> _rob_: laptop brand?
[03:35] <_rob_> vaio vpcf232fx
[03:43] <rapidsp> only `apt-get upgrade` or `apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[03:43] <_rob_> only `apt-get upgrade`
[03:44] <rapidsp> i think it need `apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade`
[03:45] <_rob_> hmm, didn't think dist-upgrade would do anything since im on the latest beta
[03:45] <_rob_> but i did `apt-get update` first
[03:45] <rapidsp> may be some modules does not upgrade
[03:46] <_rob_> running it now
[03:47] <_rob_> lol "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[03:48] <_rob_> i did sudo
[03:48] <_rob_> and nothing else is running afaik
[03:48] <rapidsp> some apt is running
[03:48] <xzuhto> I'm trying to connect to a remote server to work on some PHP via Bluefish HTML Editor. I'm not quite used to KDE yet. Could someone point me in the direction of where to make this connection?
[03:48] <rapidsp> ps aux|grep apt
[03:51] <_rob_> another process was listed so i killed it then tried the upgrade again and same thing
[03:51] <JontheEchidna> the dpkg lock is stale then
[03:51] <JontheEchidna> !aptlock
[03:54] <_rob_> just tried that
[03:54] <_rob_> same error
[03:54] <_rob_> and a reboot didnt fix it either
[03:55] <jonrob287> need help trying to install xp on kubuntu
[03:55] <jonrob287> but get error chkdsk /f
[03:55] <jonrob287> may be corrupt
[03:56] <xzuhto> Anyone have any idea how to go about connecting to a remote server? I feel like I'm missing something obvious.
[03:57] <jonrob287> use remmina remote desktop client
[03:57] <jonrob287> it works good for me
[03:58] <mr-rich> jonrob287: install XP on Kununtu? via aVM?
[03:58] <jonrob287> whats aVM?
[03:58] <mr-rich> Virtual Machine
[03:59] <jonrob287> no
[03:59] <mr-rich> oops ... /s/aVM/a VM/ ...
[03:59] <xzuhto> jon I'm not trying to remote desktop. I'm trying to access a remote server to access html/php files so I can edit my website
[03:59] <L3top> are you attempting to dual boot xp and kubuntu jonrob287?
[03:59] <jonrob287> this is my old computer giving to my mom n she wants xp not kubuntu
[04:00] <jonrob287> srry xzuhto
[04:00] <mr-rich> aha ... trying to install over kubuntu, then ...
[04:00] <jonrob287> yes
[04:00] <rapidsp> _rob_: some apt still running i think
[04:00] <L3top>  /join #windows
[04:00] <xzuhto> Jon boot from disk redo the partitions and let windows do the rest...
[04:01] <rapidsp> _rob_: muon as examle
[04:01] <mr-rich> jonrob287: get a disk util and raw format the disk ...
[04:01] <jonrob287> tried xz got errror
[04:01] <jonrob287> which rich?
[04:02] <_rob_> rapidsp, strange, I `sudo -s` first and it's now upgrading
[04:02] <mr-rich> jonrob287: donno ... I run Win as a VM ...
[04:02] <_rob_> but `sudo apt-get ...` was giving errors
[04:02] <mr-rich> jonrob287: sounds like the HD might me heading south, though ...
[04:02] <mr-rich> jonrob287: may need to replace it ...
[04:03] <rapidsp> _rob_: may be in '/root' some locks...
[04:04] <mr-rich> jonrob287: in order for checkidsk to work, it needs to be formatted to NFS/FAT, IIRC ...
[04:05] <_rob_> so far 12.04 beta2 has worked flawlessly on my laptop except for some noise coming through my speakers
[04:06] <_rob_> pretty happy with it
[04:08] <rapidsp> beta is beta :)
[04:09] <_rob_> hmm wireless still unavailable
[04:10] <rapidsp> bugreport it
[04:12] <lanc3r> #hacktheplanet
[04:13] <lanc3r> #hackthegibison
[04:28] <GH0> Where is output from the rc.local files kept? I am trying to figure out why a script which has been working for over a month, is starting to fail in rc.local, but works successfully when running the shell script manually.
[04:33] <tsimpson> GH0: probably in /var/log/syslog
[04:50] <herman_> dsvas
[08:04] <glisignoli> Question: Is there a way to install kubuntu from linux? Without booting from cd?
[08:04] <bazhang> glisignoli, to another partition?
[08:04] <glisignoli> na
[08:04] <glisignoli> overwriting the hdd
[08:05] <bazhang> the mounted hdd?
[08:05] <glisignoli> yeah
[08:05] <bazhang> err partition I mean
[08:05] <bazhang> the one you are currently using?
[08:05] <glisignoli> well, overwriting the hdd. I do have a linux rescue dvd I can boot from
[08:05] <glisignoli> well, overwriting the hdd. I do have a linux rescue dvd I can boot from
[08:05] <glisignoli> basically I have a usb stick with kubuntu on it. Can't boot from it, but the stick is fine.
[08:06] <glisignoli> and no blank cd's
[08:06] <bazhang> overwriting a mounted and active one? the one you're on?
[08:07] <glisignoli> Well, the hdd won't be mounted. I'll boot the system off a system rescue dvd.
[08:07] <glisignoli> But installing to the only hdd in the machine
[08:07] <glisignoli> overwriting all partitions
[08:24] <tsimpson> glisignoli: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD and the section below
[09:36] <bibijke> hi, amarok can't play aac+ di.fm radio, what i need to install? (kubuntu 11.10)
[11:36] <sirriffsalot_> Hello! I screwed up an set my graphics driver off without selecting another one, and now when I try to boot my monitor goes to sleep mode, haha! Any way I can set my graphics driver from a live cd?
[11:37] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_:which video card?
[11:38] <Peace-> intel nvidia or at
[11:38] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: nvidia...)*
[11:39] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: It's been giving me trouble at bootup (or so I think) when I get messages such as "starting system v runlevel compatibility          fail" and stopping automatic crash report generation            fail"
[11:40] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: lead me to try to install a earlier graphics driver and screwed up as previously explained...:-/ Any ideas?
[11:40] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: you need to boot with kernel recovery http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/recoveryc.jpeg , then you will choose root shell or something like that  http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/aukckf6e.jpeg
[11:41] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: the trouble is my installation doesn't give those options...
[11:41] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: it goes straight to booting up what would be the first choice
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:41] <sirriffsalot_> BluesKaj: Hey=)
[11:41] <mydogsnameisrudy> using 11.10 and at login i get this error  Unknown error. (Unable to fetch item from backend)
[11:41] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: press SHIFT
[11:42] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: Ok... what do I do when I do the second picture?:P
[11:42] <Peace-> you ned to select netroot
[11:43] <Peace-> then you are root
[11:43] <Peace-> with internet
[11:43] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: well yeah, but after that?:D
[11:43] <Peace-> so you can try to fix the driver
[11:43] <sirriffsalot_> Aah
[11:43] <sirriffsalot_> I see
[11:43] <sirriffsalot_> At what point am I to hold in shift?
[11:43] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: wait a moment
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hey sirriffsalot_ , Peace- , mydogsnameisrudy
[11:43] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: first we talk to how to fix the driver
[11:44] <sirriffsalot_> BluesKaj: Hi again
[11:44]  * BluesKaj goes for coffee
[11:44] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: this dirver it's the default one xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:44] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: so i *guess* and i am NOT SURE youshoud
[11:44] <Peace-> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[11:44] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: alright, am I to select that when I get there?
[11:45] <Peace-> then
[11:45] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:45] <Peace-> or maybe better
[11:45] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_:  sudo apt-get install  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[11:46] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: anyway a good step it's read all this stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:46] <sirriffsalot_> Hang on:)
[11:47] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: you should be able to undestand which files you have to remove reinstall
[11:47] <Peace-> BluesKaj: holas
[11:47] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: if you can boot with recovery kernel ...
[11:47] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: Let's hope I can
[11:47] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: gonna give it a go! Cheers so far!
[11:47] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/try-to-fix-your-kubuntu-box-with-kernel-recovery/
[11:47] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: read that if youcan't boot
[11:48] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: oh
[11:48] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: that is my website
[11:48] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: by the way... I'm on a Dream Studio install.. Will that make a difference?:S
[11:48] <Peace-> sirriffsalot_: i support only kubuntu then
[11:48] <sirriffsalot_> Peace-: Meh ok...
[11:50] <mydogsnameisrudy> on login i get this error     Unknown error. (Unable to fetch item from backend)  any ideas?
[11:52] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm looks like i have a good one , no one has seen ;)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy, have you checked phonon backend ..gstreamer?
[12:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> no?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> dunno , just guessing
[12:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> no idea what your asking me
[12:24] <BluesKaj> "Unable to fetch item from backend"
[12:24] <mydogsnameisrudy> setup a new user and it works fine ..
[12:24] <mydogsnameisrudy> so its just this user
[12:24] <mydogsnameisrudy> at login
[12:56] <shredding> test
[12:57] <shredding> hello
[12:57] <shredding> I'm new to (k)ubuntu.
[12:57] <shredding> I'd like to install new software, but the software center is blank.
[12:58] <shredding> nevermind killall software-center did it
[12:58] <shredding> anyway: my real question: when i shutdown kubuntu, the shutdown process freezes at "shutting down tomcat"
[12:58] <shredding> how can i avoid thid?
[12:59] <DoctorPepper> shredding:  stop tomcat  manually before  doing the shutdown
[13:00] <shredding> DoctorPepper: Thanks for your help. I'm really new to linux. is there a way to automate this, like a script that runs everytime before shutdown?
[13:02] <DoctorPepper> i dont know of any script  that  does  that
[13:03] <DoctorPepper> are  u  running  on a desktop  or server
[13:03] <shredding> desktop
[13:04] <shredding> I'm not really sure, if I need tomcat.
[13:04] <DoctorPepper> in the case  disable  the tomcat service
[13:04] <shredding> So if there's a script that would prevent it from starting at first place, i guess I'm good.
[13:04] <shredding> How would I do that?
[13:07] <DoctorPepper> shredding:  http://dotgiri.com/2009/08/31/alternative-for-chkconfig-in-ubuntu-sysv-rc-conf-enable-or-disable-services-at-startup/
[13:08] <DoctorPepper> the use this software to the disable tomcat
[13:10] <shredding> thanks
[13:11] <DoctorPepper> you're  welcome
[13:12] <shredding> would you mind to drop a word about the numbers (service)?
[13:12] <shredding> I just deactivated it anywhere
[13:14] <shredding> I really have to say that linux is lots of fun.
[13:34] <GH0> How can I change the permissions to reflect the following:
[13:34] <GH0> drwxr-xr-x  2 root bind     4096 2012-04-11 20:22 bind
[13:34] <GH0> drwxr-sr-x  2 root bind     4096 2012-04-13 22:44 bind_bak
[13:34] <GH0> Specifically the s permission.
[14:49] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I foolishly "unselected" my graphics driver and did not activate another, and now I can't access my login prompt, haha. Is there a way to fix this? Through recovery mode or live cd?
[14:50] <|rapidsp|> sirriffsalot: whats video card?
[14:51] <sirriffsalot> |rapidsp|: not sure, don't want to give you bad info:)
[14:51] <|rapidsp|> laptop?
[15:02] <robertzaccour> after using the razor tool in kdenlive, how do I delete part of that clip without removing the entire video?
[16:09] <_rob_> |rapidsp|, fixed my wifi this morning
[16:09] <_rob_>  `rfkill unblock all`
[16:24] <BluesKaj> _rob_, care to share what your situation was , so we can learn from it ?
[16:25] <_rob_> i did a `apt-get upgrade` on 12.04 b2 and my wireless stopped working
[16:27] <_rob_> not sure what packages were included in the upgrade, there were about 100 of them
[16:28] <BluesKaj> I'm talking about your network manager error messages , if any
[16:28] <BluesKaj> when you tried to connect
[16:29] <_rob_> no errors, it just wouldn't let me connect
[16:29] <_rob_> i thought it was a driver til i started digging through the package manager and found rfkill
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:33] <BluesKaj> yes , i've heard of rfkill before but usually it doesn't work , _rob_ , i think you lucked out there :
[16:35] <_rob_> i guess so. I'm still wondering how it got blocked but it's working now so it's not important
[16:36] <_rob_> if only i could get my cifs mounts to umount now on reboot and shutdown ...
[16:40] <BluesKaj> _rob_, check your fstab settings , you may need to re-enter the cifs settings
[17:04] <_rob_> BluesKaj, I think fstab is fine. The network shares mount fine, it just causes the system to hang on reboot.
[17:16] <bias> hallo
[17:16] <bias> hallo?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> hi bias
[17:17] <bias> puuhh  ich dachte schon mihc hört man nicht::))
[17:17] <BluesKaj> !de
[17:18] <bias> hello?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> engl,ish only here , bias
[17:19] <bias> I understand blueskaj told me,...
[17:19] <_rob_> BluesKaj, from my reading it seems the network manager shuts down before the cifs shares around un mounted. I added symlinks to umountnfs.sh in rc0.d and rc6.d but it still hangs
[17:20] <bias> is somebody there who appears in berlin every secong wednesday?
[17:21] <bias> hey rob youŕe still alive? ;)
[17:21] <_rob_> of course, im only 32
[17:22] <BluesKaj> _rob_, i tried a .sh script link in and I had hangups as well.. did you do update-rc.d after making the links
[17:22] <bias> 32? I don wanna know you're age ;)
[17:23] <bias> ? @rob  what you're mean y that?
[17:25] <_rob_> BluesKaj, no, i didnt. Not really sure how
[17:26] <BluesKaj> _rob_, sudo update-rc.d in the konsole
[17:27] <_rob_> i got a usage error when i tried that
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ahha ..quote the error
[17:29] <_rob_> http://pastebin.com/Pb6jM1Vh
[17:31] <BluesKaj> _rob_, that's not an error , that's normal output
[17:35] <_rob_> still stuck trying to shut down
[17:35] <kilo12v4ku> hello all
[17:36] <kilo12v4ku> looking for some help on solving a dual mon issue
[17:37] <kilo12v4ku> cant get a resolution above 1024x768 on one of the mons, where windows I I could get it to 1280
[17:38] <hounddog> hi, i just installed kubuntu and am a bit lost how i would get the graphics running properly on my laptop... have a hybrid graphic card... nvidia.
[17:41] <voodoo123x_> @hounddog: Have you installed the additional drivers?
[17:42] <hounddog> voodoo123x_,  not yet... was a bit unsure...
[17:42] <hounddog> was googling around.
[17:42] <hounddog> hmmm just seeing they are installed
[17:42] <hounddog> in muon i see additional drivers 2 times... 1 is installed
[17:43] <voodoo123x_> @hounddog: Open the menu and type "Additional Drivers" and you should see an option there. Install the driver for the graphics card from there if it is not already.
[17:43] <kilo12v4ku> @hounddog I installed the nvidia-current and it locked me up - figured Id look for help on the forums on that ione myself
[17:43] <BluesKaj> hounddog, which gpus do you have ?
[17:43] <hounddog> gt 330m nvidia
[17:44] <kilo12v4ku> anyone have any ideas on screen res problems?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> voodoo123x_, the @ symbol doesn't do anything on irc , just use the nick
[17:44] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku,^
[17:44] <hounddog> if i open the nvidia x server i get the message is not configured properly... will follow those steps.
[17:45] <voodoo123x_> BluesKaj, Heh, thanks. More of a habit than anything.
[17:45] <BluesKaj> you have 2 gpus what's the other one hounddog
[17:45] <_rob_> the @ symbol does do something, it keeps you from using tab auto completion on nicks :p
[17:45] <kilo12v4ku> voodoo same here
[17:45] <hounddog> let me check on the acer site :)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> _rob_, some ppl find it annoying
[17:47] <BluesKaj> sometimes we have to remind ppl this isn't Bingo english :)
[17:47] <kilo12v4ku> Bingo English?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> b4 for before etc
[17:47] <kilo12v4ku> ahhh chatspeak
[17:48] <BluesKaj> google bingo kilo12v4ku
[17:48] <kilo12v4ku> same thing as chatspeak just a newer term
[17:49] <BluesKaj> dunno I use plain english as much as possible
[17:49] <BluesKaj> except for some expressions that everyone knows
[17:49] <BluesKaj> like dunno :)
[17:50] <_rob_> BluesKaj, that was more a hint to voodoo123x_ and kilo12v4ku that they can hit tab for auto completion on nicks if they dont use @
[17:50] <hounddog> http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/2010/Acer/Aspire/Aspire5745G/Aspire5745Gsp2.shtml there it is... searching for the card info :)
[17:51] <kilo12v4ku> I actually just used on here bc it seemed like more an attn getter, but np
[17:51] <BluesKaj> _rob_, yeah got it
[17:52] <kilo12v4ku> anyway...ne1 got any ideas about screen res issues?  if not Im headin to the forums
[17:52] <hounddog> either i am blind or i cannot find the specs for the second gpu...
[17:55] <L3top> hounddog lspci | grep VGA    will tell you the hardware. It can get a lot more verbose. Check out bumblebee for hybrid discrete graphics switching.
[17:56] <hounddog> ahh directly also shopws both
[17:56] <hounddog> thx
[17:57] <hounddog> http://pastie.org/3787630 there they are :)
[17:57] <hounddog> L3top, saw something about this
[17:57] <hounddog> will check it out
[17:57] <BluesKaj> hounddog, looks like you have 2 nvidia gpus, 330m and 310m..first time I've seen that
[17:58] <hounddog> BluesKaj, look at the pastie, that is more accurate
[17:58] <L3top> np. I am currently writing stuff to completely disable the weaker for the stronger performer for am open source project that has a media center.
[17:58] <hounddog> i was sure it is intel and nvidia
[17:58] <L3top> It usually is intel + something
[17:58] <hounddog> i think those could be different laptop models
[17:59] <L3top> intel + intel is what is killing me. Trying to choose the "best" one. I just don't have the hardware... so I am presuming the first listed is the weaker
[17:59] <hounddog> L3top, if youare at it... i need a proper media center for my tv ... default one is crap :p
[17:59] <hounddog> i mean installed ON the tv :)
[17:59] <BluesKaj> hounddog, sudo lshw -C video
[18:00] <L3top> This is a different project... it just HAS a media center. It is a whole house automation platform. linuxmce.org
[18:00] <hounddog> ok, sounds nice... i actually like xbmc...
[18:00] <hounddog> http://pastie.org/3787639
[18:00] <L3top> feel free to take a look or join #linuxmce
[18:01] <hounddog> you have a easy to reach api on it? then i could do something with js on the screen...
[18:01] <hounddog> BluesKaj, just pasted it again in that pastie
[18:01] <L3top> There is nothing easy to reach on lmce... lol
[18:01] <hounddog> ok...
[18:01] <L3top> its just different.
[18:02] <hounddog> :)
[18:02] <BluesKaj> right hounddog , intel and nvidia
[18:02] <L3top> If you would like to experiment I can throw code at you... but bumblebee is probably what you want.
[18:03] <hounddog> i know programming... but i do not know linux very well... would rather go the easy/secure way...
[18:03] <GH0> What are the default groups assigned to a user when you first install Kubuntu?
[18:03] <L3top> I understand. It was more for me than you ;P
[18:03] <kilo12v4ku> where do I find out which vers of kubuntu it is I am running
[18:04] <hounddog> this morning i actually bricked my ubuntu install by messing with graphics
[18:04] <kilo12v4ku> hey hounddog me too...this is actually my fourth install since yesterday
[18:05] <hounddog> well, you are 2 installations ahead of me :p
[18:05] <L3top> kilo12v4ku: you can type lsb_release -c -s
[18:05] <L3top> in a terminal.
[18:05] <L3top> though I am sure there is a gui help/about way.
[18:05] <kilo12v4ku> cool ty
[18:06] <hounddog> http://pastie.org/3787668 this is the same thing where i bricked it this morning
[18:06] <hounddog> runing nvidia-xconfig
[18:08] <hounddog> L3top, looks like the solution has something to do with bumblebee according to forums
[18:10]  * L3top was pretty sure he said bumblebee 3 times
[18:11] <hounddog> following that guide now and parying
[18:12] <L3top> dont forget to thrust.
[18:12] <hounddog> ?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> hounddog, http://hybrid-graphics-linux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Bumblebee
[18:13] <hounddog> BluesKaj, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee was following this atm
[18:13] <L3top> it was a play on words of your typo... nm
[18:14] <hounddog> lol
[18:14] <hounddog> :)
[18:14] <BluesKaj> there's another script that some use called vga_switcheroo
[18:14] <hounddog> there is also something about some gui version some guy has built
[18:14] <L3top> It is my experience that bumblebee is more mature.
[18:15] <hounddog> ok... relogin... if i do not come back i am lost :p
[18:16] <L3top> How does lucid handle kdm startup? I know that /etc/X11/default-display-manager points to /usr/bin/kdm... but what is invoking that path? Is that an OS thing or an X thing?
[18:19] <yofel> L3top: it's started by /etc/init/kdm.conf
[18:20] <kilo12v4ku> ok since more ppl have showed up....if i use the nvidia current I lose my 2nd mon, any ideas?
[18:20] <yofel> it doesn't show up in nvidia-settings?
[18:21] <kilo12v4ku> under sys settings it doesnt show up no
[18:21] <L3top> ty yofel
[18:21] <kilo12v4ku> never was able to get to nvidia-settings
[18:22] <kilo12v4ku> let me install it again but I really hate losing the real estate
[18:22] <yofel> kilo12v4ku: first check if it's installed, then try alt+f2 nvidia-settings
[18:22] <kilo12v4ku> gonna re-install it now
[18:23] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, don't jump the gun , check what yofel says first
[18:23] <kilo12v4ku> not there
[18:24] <BluesKaj> did you do nvidia-xconfig
[18:24] <kilo12v4ku> and looking at muon and nvidia-current-dev is not installed
[18:25] <kilo12v4ku> I did that in install 3 and froxe the box
[18:25] <yofel> you don't need -dev
[18:25] <BluesKaj> or did you ude jockey to install
[18:25] <kilo12v4ku> *froze
[18:25] <yofel> what you need is:
[18:25] <hounddog> so, screen is still working.
[18:25] <yofel> !info nvidia-settings
[18:25] <yofel> and it won't show up in system settings if I remember correctly
[18:26] <kilo12v4ku> nvidia-settings is not installed
[18:26] <yofel> install it, that's what you use for multi-screen setup with the nvidia driver
[18:26] <kilo12v4ku> installing now
[18:27] <BluesKaj> it's in the kmenu>apps>settings kilo12v4ku
[18:27] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, how are you installing it ?
[18:28] <kilo12v4ku> from within Muon
[18:28] <BluesKaj> not the way to do it
[18:28] <kilo12v4ku> lol
[18:28] <GH0> Is anyone here familiar with ACL's? I seem to be having a problem setting them up correctly. Right now I am trying to setup a file server so that only specific groups can access those files. Right now I have my base folder /srv/ setup for 755 with root:root as the owner:group. Beyond that, I have an Applications folder which is setup in /srv/storage/Applications which is setup like so:
[18:28] <GH0> http://pastebin.com/0HWR2HJi However, I can't create files, and I am not sure if I just have the ACL's set up wrong, or if it something else I am doing. If I create a file I get:  "andrew@server:/srv/storage/Applications$ mkdir test"  "mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied"
[18:28] <kilo12v4ku> ok - whats the best route
[18:28] <hounddog> with me settings is installed but throws warning that i do not appear to be using nvidia x-driver...
[18:29] <BluesKaj> open the kmenu kilo12v4ku , apps>system>additional drivers , choose the recommended driver and install
[18:29] <yofel> BluesKaj: he has the driver, he's trying to set up multiple monitors
[18:30] <GH0> The user that I am testing with is a part of the software group.
[18:30] <kilo12v4ku> ok installing that now
[18:30] <GH0> Also yofel, the mounting issue that I was having, was a KDE Configuration error. If I change any setting, it fails. If I delete the .kde folder it works fine.
[18:30] <BluesKaj> yofel, yeah, but is it the correct one
[18:37] <kilo12v4ku> i had actually refused to install one until on this kub install bc it was ticking me off (the loss of the 2nd mon)
[18:39] <kilo12v4ku> ok before I do what it is wantingme to do
[18:40] <kilo12v4ku> if I get frozen on the boot,,,how do I get to the cmd line?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+f1 or 2
[18:43] <kilo12v4ku> BluesKaj: it says I am not using Nvidia X Driver
[18:43] <kilo12v4ku> next question is there a way to start using it without having to reboot
[18:44] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, ctrl+alt+f7 or 8
[18:54] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, try this at the tty prompt (ctrl+alt+f1) , sudo service kdm stop , then,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then sudo nvidia-xconfig , then startx
[19:12] <L3top> you should pkill X as well after kdm stop
[19:12] <ahmet> ATI RV370 DRİVER PARDUSA NASIL KURABİLİRİM?
[19:12] <L3top> it will drop to login prompt otherwise
[19:13] <meNtha> i want to buy a "new" laptop
[19:14] <meNtha> it has multitouch touchpad
[19:14] <meNtha> fe: dubble finger scrool, zoom with fingers, etc
[19:14] <meNtha> it will work on kubuntu/ubuntu?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> L3top, never needed to kill X . kdm stop is sufficient
[19:20] <L3top> I always have. nvidia setup doesn't care about kdm, it wants X stopped. If stopping kdm was enough to stop x, then pkill X wouldn't do anything anyway. I don't see the harm... and for me, on lucid, I have to.
[19:21] <BluesKaj> L3
[19:21] <L3top> I am not trying to argue, just explain my rationale.
[19:21] <L3top> I do not claim to be right, it is just my experience.
[19:22] <BluesKaj> L3top, Ifollowed that procedure I posted several times and and it always worked to install anew nviida driver... aamof i copied it from a kubuntu tutorial
[19:24] <BluesKaj> but if you want to kill X then that's your business :)
[19:26] <alberto> HOLA
[19:27] <BluesKaj> L3top, lucid ? ..ok , that might explain it
[19:30] <meNtha> BluesKaj do u have any idea in my problem?
[19:38] <hounddog> so... i am not able to see any 3d opengl rendering yet... my laptop hates me
[19:39] <hounddog> opening nvidia-settings also tells me that i do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver...
[19:40] <BluesKaj> meNtha,hou have you setup desktop effects in system settings, I have to ask :P
[19:40] <BluesKaj> oops wrong guy , hounddog ^
[19:40] <L3top> BluesKaj: sudo service kdm stop    at prompt ps aux | grep X  just for fun.
[19:40] <BluesKaj> meNtha, sunno much about tablet computing , sorry
[19:40] <hounddog> desktop effects?
[19:41] <BluesKaj> yeah in system settings
[19:41] <meNtha> its not a tablet :D
[19:41] <hounddog> found it...
[19:41] <meNtha> wait, i will serach a video
[19:42] <meNtha> BluesKaj http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDKQNKM3eA   @ 1:45
[19:42] <hounddog> but its not just desktop... i am just using my samplegame to see if the graphic card is rendering anything in opengl... but nothin
[19:43] <hounddog> samplegame = webgl
[19:43] <BluesKaj> hounddog, you have to set desktop effects for 3D rendering
[19:44] <hounddog> ok, just set it to start at startup
[19:45] <hounddog> let me relog and check
[19:47] <hounddog> nope, no change...
[19:48] <BluesKaj> MetaBot_, we don't whether or not that laptop is fine for linux ...we don't give that kind of advice ...we can't recommend specific computers unless they are already loaded with a kubuntu OS.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> meNtha,^
[19:49] <meNtha> o, i see
[19:49] <meNtha> thanks anyway
[19:49] <BluesKaj> hounddog, have you installed bumblebee
[19:49] <avihay> meNtha: http://www.google.com/search?q=linuxlaptop I guess
[19:49] <hounddog> yep
[19:50] <hounddog> am able to switch on and off etc
[19:50] <bias> did anybody know how to change my password?
[19:50] <avihay> also, I recommand not to buy an MSI PR600 due to some sensor issues, suspend and other minor oddities
[19:51] <avihay> incidently, if anyone knows any workarounds for an MSI PR600, I'd be glad to hear about them
[19:51] <hounddog> BluesKaj, running nvidia-settings allways gives me warning that not using nvidia x driver
[19:53] <bias> who's the operator of the berlin site?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> hounddog, yes , because it's using the intel lower level driver...have you set up bumblebee , there must be some kind of configuration gui
[19:56] <hounddog> am just going through it again
[19:57] <bias> @blueskaj ,...I wanna change my passwort at the berlin ubuntu site could give an idea how?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> bias, is it on freenode ?
[20:01] <bias> is anyone ,...in mai in berlin?
[20:11] <hounddog> grmbl
[20:11] <hounddog> oh wait.
[20:11] <hounddog> i have 3d!
[20:12] <hounddog> wtf oO my game only gave me 60 fps on windows... here i even have 120 fps
[20:12] <hounddog> BluesKaj, works finally!
[20:13] <hounddog> but i have to start everything with optirun
[20:15] <BluesKaj> no ideqa what optirun is , but if it works better than windows ,,great , because most linux graphics have a lesss cluttered path to the API than windows ..directX and all that crap
[20:15] <hounddog> that is something with bumblebee... i have to start every program which i need 3d from now with optirun
[20:16] <BluesKaj> hounddog, perhaps you can set it to autostart with games and movies etc
[20:27] <hounddog> BluesKaj, just checking on this kind of stuff...
[20:28] <hounddog> at least something is working now
[20:49] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!!!
[20:55] <kb3gtn> oO
[21:31] <Daskreech> DoctorPepper: Hi!
[21:31] <Daskreech> kb3gtn: Hello
[21:43] <kilo12v4ku> BluesKaj: are you here?
[21:46] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, yes
[21:46] <kilo12v4ku> I am looking at the nvidia x server settings
[21:47] <kilo12v4ku> its showing 2 mons and one is disabled and its registering on here as a crt which it isnt
[21:51] <kilo12v4ku> its a flat digital but I have it connected via VGA cable
[21:51] <kilo12v4ku> it worked before I installed the nvidia driver
[21:56] <BluesKaj> kilo12v4ku, sorry, I have no experience with 2 monitors on linux
[22:09] <dbc254> how do you get windows XP loaded onto VirtualBox?
[22:10] <dbc254> ext pack won't work either. Guess an OS has to be installed 1st??
[22:10] <Daskreech> dbc254: Pretty much treat it like you would any computer that you didn't buy from a retail store or an OEM
[22:10] <Daskreech> It's a white box machine
[22:11] <dbc254> I'm doing something wrong then. . .  .
[22:11] <Daskreech> dbc254: I can't comment on that ;) What are you doing?
[22:13] <Daskreech> How are you trying to get WinXP on to the VM?
[22:15] <dbc254> I don't know how. That's the problem
[22:15] <dbc254> I thought after I got VM loaded, it was prompt me somehow for an OS. No such thing happened
[22:15] <kb3gtn> you need a windows XP install CD..
[22:16] <dbc254> got one
[22:16] <kb3gtn> then set the VM to boot from it..
[22:17] <Daskreech> dbc254: What VM are you using?
[22:20] <dbc254> Installed quick-n-easy. Then went to add the OS and hit a brick wall
[22:23] <Daskreech> dbc254: This is virtualbox? Do you have a physical CD or an ISO ?
[22:33] <Daskreech> dbc254: Hello?
[22:45] <Daskreech> :-(
[23:15] <kilo12v4ku> so how do I ge rid of a driver
[23:15] <kilo12v4ku> id like to go back to where I have both monitors
[23:16] <kilo12v4ku> in other words I need to get rid of the nvidia driver
[23:20] <Daskreech> kilo12v4ku: remove it if you installed it via a package
[23:22] <kilo12v4ku> Daskreech installed via apt-get
[23:22] <kb3gtn> kilo12v4ku: did you try nvidia-settings when setting up the dual head configuration?
[23:22] <kilo12v4ku> kb3gtn: its showing me as having a CRT and its disabled
[23:23] <kilo12v4ku> I have an nvidia card...dvi port and vga...1 mon on each
[23:23] <kb3gtn> hmm.. interessting.. maybe monitor EDID problem..
[23:24] <yofel> can't you enable it?
[23:24] <kilo12v4ku> wont let me
[23:24] <yofel> odd
[23:24] <kilo12v4ku> w/o the nvidia driver I have both mons
[23:24] <yofel> well, to remove it you should use jockey usually
[23:24] <kb3gtn> If you want to remove the nvidia driver, do "apt-get remove nvidia-current"
[23:25] <kb3gtn> or jockey
[23:25] <yofel> if you do it via apt-get, you'll need to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand
[23:25] <kilo12v4ku> am i really missing anything by not using the nvidia driver
[23:25] <kb3gtn> well.. if your not gamming on it.. then no..
[23:25] <kilo12v4ku> have had no luck rm the xorg
[23:26] <kilo12v4ku> no gaming except SWTOR
[23:26] <yofel> hm, some performance in 3D, vdpau (hardware video decoding - not needed unless you need fluent HD) and cuda I guess
[23:26]  * yofel uses nouveau - works fine
[23:27] <kilo12v4ku> will jockey rm via gui?
[23:27] <lsv> one quick question for all my linux friends here.  Does anyone knows how are the files in ~/.thumbnails/normal named?
[23:27] <kilo12v4ku> or do I need to ctrl-alt-f1
[23:27] <yofel> rm via GUI
[23:27] <yofel> then you'll need to reboot
[23:27] <kilo12v4ku> let me try that
[23:27] <kilo12v4ku> can I get jockey via muon
[23:28] <Daskreech> lsv: badly
[23:28] <Daskreech> lsv: There is a lot of discussion going on about that currently and the storage of them
[23:28] <lsv> Daskreech: haha.
[23:28] <yofel> Daskreech: md5sum?
[23:28] <lsv> yofel: I don't think so
[23:29] <yofel> well, that was guessing
[23:29] <kilo12v4ku> so uhm jockey common or jockey-kde?
[23:29] <yofel> jockey-kde
[23:29] <lsv> yofel: yeah that was my first guess too :)
[23:30] <kilo12v4ku> app its already installed
[23:30] <kilo12v4ku> upgrading
[23:31] <Daskreech> lsv: It's a Freedesktop spec so you'll have to wade through that
[23:31] <kilo12v4ku> ok i just typed in jockey and it came up with "additional drivers"
[23:31] <Daskreech> jockey-kde
[23:32] <lsv> Daskreech: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[23:32] <kilo12v4ku> brb
[23:32] <Daskreech> lsv: trying to find the bug report on b.k.o
[23:33] <lsv> Daskreech: b.k.o?
[23:34] <Daskreech> lsv: http://bugs.kde.org
[23:34] <kilo12v4ku> not letting me restart
[23:34] <lsv> Daskreech: oh, got it.
[23:37] <lsv> Is there a way to monitor what program uses certain files?
[23:37] <kilo12v4ku> ok heres the other issue
[23:38] <kilo12v4ku> I have nboth mons back - thanks everyone
[23:38] <Daskreech> lsv: lsof ?
[23:38] <kilo12v4ku> i know the mon goes to 1280x1024 but it wont let me go that high
[23:39] <lsv> Daskreech: yeah, maybe I could just watch the ~/.thumbnails/normal folder and see what program writes the picture
[23:41] <Daskreech> lsv: Why would that matter?
[23:42] <permafrost> hi there!
[23:43] <lsv> Daskreech: I just wanted to know how the system picks a name for the png file.  And by finding the name of the program that writes the file, I'm one step closer to my goal?
[23:43] <permafrost> i have a problem with my wired conection to internet, the wifi conection works very good
[23:44] <permafrost> the cable and router works very good because i tried it with a win / laptop
[23:44] <permafrost> win 7 laptop
[23:46] <permafrost> can anybody help me?
[23:48] <kb3gtn> permafrost: what wired network card do you have.
[23:50] <permafrost> kb3gtn : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[23:50] <yofel> lsv: I would believe it's this http://people.freedesktop.org/~vuntz/thumbnail-spec-cache/thumbsave.html
[23:50] <kb3gtn> permafrost: That card should work fine in linux..
[23:50] <yofel> but I can't quite verify it here :/
[23:51] <permafrost> kb3gtn : yes, i know. Every body tells me it :)
[23:51] <permafrost> but it doesn't work
[23:51] <kilo12v4ku> still lokking to solve screen res issue
[23:51] <kilo12v4ku> *looking
[23:52] <kb3gtn> need to know more detail about the network configuration inorder to help..
[23:53] <permafrost> kb3gtn: i 've installed the driver r8168-8.029.00 and i blacklist 8168
[23:53] <permafrost> r8168
[23:53] <Guest5243> ciaoo
[23:53] <kb3gtn> does the wired interface work at-all?
[23:53] <permafrost> kb3gtn: then i sudo update-inittramfs -u and reboot
[23:55] <lsv> yofel: Thanks!  I'm reading it.
[23:58] <yofel> ah no, that is the right standard, I was hashing \n too in my test here ^^