[00:04] why does under system settings -> Details -> graphics, it shows the correct driver: Geforce GTX 260, but says the Experience: Standard, is that normal? [00:34] hey, if I get 11.10, when 12.04 comes is upgrading a simple matter of doing "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"? [00:36] harold, better to, updater-manager -d [00:36] sorry update-manager -d [00:36] hmm, what is that? [00:36] I mean, it that a part of apt? [00:37] harold, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [00:39] Classic seems to work quite well. Nice! Now I can finally upgrade from Maveric. Althoug, the Applications and Places texts seem to be tad bit too much on the gray side. Easiest way to make them darker? [00:40] delac, it's a bug in the theme. [00:41] I've seen a developer discuss it in another channel. i.e. it's being worked on. [00:41] nice, so it's propably fixed by the time Pangolin comes out. [00:41] Hopefully will be fixed by the time Pangolin is released. [00:41] Yeah. [00:42] so, I don't even have to fix that. This seems to be the best release for a long time. [00:44] delac: you can use GNOME Classic (Without Effects) to get the theming to look better [00:45] jbicha: even better? It looks pretty good already. And I do need the effects. [00:46] delac: ah, then don't worry about it [01:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11842333#post11842333 anyone has similar problems? [01:23] hey guys. what happens if you repeatedly maximise and minimise the dash in unity 5.10? i'm seeing the blurred image behind the dash visibly jump up and down [01:26] How much 'server stuff' does the ubuntu server iso include? Or would I be better off getting the ubuntu-alternate iso for a minimal install? [01:32] MyUnity has ceased to work--you can't change the color of the dash or launcher to a different color---after updating to the latest unity. [01:38] hmm [01:39] is there a ubuntu git like git.debian.org?.. [01:43] or other scm?.. [01:45] atpa8a: ubuntu uses bzr for pretty much everything... [01:45] Well I'm pretty sure that my last 3D bug is NVidia related as every system I try without NVidia powers up just fine in 3D [01:46] atpa8a: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu [01:47] Anyone with an NVidia card have no problems after a latest update? [01:47] keithclark: what kind of problems? [01:48] Will123456, slow rendering/no response from keyboard/mouse. [01:49] Will123456, system unusable without resorting to 2D mode [01:51] keithclark: i've got nothing like that on my 260 gtx [01:51] or whatever it's called [01:53] Will123456, when did you update last? === spacebug is now known as spacebug- [01:57] keithclark: i'm running 5.10 and all the latest updates [01:58] the only thing i don't have is some big java updates [01:58] Did I read that right? 5.10? === richardlxc is now known as richardlxc1 [02:01] Ok, I get the joke. Dated hardware.... [02:03] I thought Will123456 was talking about unity 5.10 [02:03] Ok, I understand...make fun of me. I got it. [02:08] I guess I can always try Mint. See how they help me out. [02:12] keithclark: sorry - i meant unity 5.10 [02:12] as in the latest 12.04 [02:13] i completely didn't realise that might not mean anything to you [02:13] i'm sorry! [02:13] i've been getting into reporting bugs on the latest incremental builds of unity that I'd completely lost all perspective. I was a mad man, if only for a moment. and certainly not making fun of you :) [02:16] Carry on as you see fit. I will keep researching my issue. [02:17] keithclark: what card are you using? there's always a chance your system might be trying to use nouveau and for whatever reason it's not performing that well [02:17] that's just a guess [02:17] Thanks, I'll try that idea out tomorrow. [02:20] arand_: thanks! i think that's what i was looking for [02:22] in Sid means.. still in development?.. [02:22] Sid is the eternal Debian unstable version, so yeah. [02:23] Although not necessarily everything there is an alpha/beta version. [02:23] so something that i found in launchpad that's "in Sid" would not have ubuntu patches, or would it? [02:24] I'm not sure. What's the context? [02:25] was looking for a source [ubuntu] deb for libvirt [02:26] found 0.9.11 in debian [02:26] launchpad bazaar seems to have the same but it marks it "in Sid" [02:26] https://launchpad.net/debian/sid/+source/libvirt [02:28] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/0.9.8-2ubuntu16 [02:28] yeah [02:28] The one in Sid is more recent. [02:29] the 0.9.8 is in precise [02:29] was looking for something over 0.9.10 [02:29] But yeah, it does not have Ubuntu patches. [02:30] it has one feature i would like to test [02:30] really? Stanley Cup been to space??? [02:49] i just tried installing the beta2 with btrfs, on an entire drive with one / partition. it wouldnt boot. i reverted to an old ub1108 and fscked and mounted it. the sda1 contains an @/with the expected root and an @home [02:49] is this a bug? [02:54] hrm something else occured [02:54] bouma: no idea... if you don't find a good answer here, you could try #btrfs [02:56] i was impatient when i specified not to download packages as part of the install (i picked the bottom flag, thinking it wouldnt dl anything). when it started taking mins to download I turned off my wifi and waited for it to timeout, perhaps when the install proceeded it 'forgot' to rearrange the root of dest partition [02:57] bouma: that could be it. [02:57] bouma: i've been reading the btrfs mailing lists, and they consider anything other than the very, very latest kernel to be completely out of date and useless for a stable and functioning btrfs [02:58] for them, 3.2 is the stone age [02:58] so i will warn you that they might just recommend not using btrfs with the 3.2 kernel, which is default in 12.04 [03:08] Has anyone here tried Sandy Bridge (Core I3-I7) graphics for compiz? Is it good enough for compiz? Or if I really want compiz will I need an [03:08] a discrete card? [03:09] As long as there proper 3D support for it, it's way more than enough. [03:09] any embedded video card within the past 5 years should run compiz fine [03:10] OK, thanks... am about to buy a dedicated Ubuntu notebook ;) [03:10] JontheEchidna, as long as there is a 3D driver for it :P [03:10] yes :P [03:17] Daekdroom: you probably dont need cuda for the desktop (yet!)... hrm how can we use bessel functions ... instead of a cube a project desktops on a pulsating sphere! [03:17] What? [03:18] we dont need gpgpu for the desktop yet [03:30] Will123456: Looking at lots of things, but my key concerns are small, long battery life, runs compiz and video well, lighter 3d gaming (don't need 60fps nexuiz... ;)) [03:31] oh, and I'm trying to pick one under 500 ;) === trinikrono is now known as mariobros === mariobros is now known as mariott === CQ_ is now known as CQ === snadge_ is now known as snadge === mariott is now known as marioland [03:58] gnu-dio: hey, those all sound like things i want too :) [04:40] hello, ive installed beta2 about 5 times now and everytime it ends with error migrating data. then directing me to /var/log/syslog [04:40] hey guys I have a laptop and when I opened it for resuming from "sleep" the cursor rendered to a black screen and I could move it around but I had a hard time figuring out how to get logged in. [04:41] The laptop uses Intel HD (might be something to do with open source intel drivers as well maybe?) [04:41] ended up doing a laptop restart. [04:42] so my questions is: can someone remind me what that program is I can do to restart the gdm? [04:55] cccangel, isnt it "sudo service lightdm start" [04:56] you can use stop also if you need === marioland is now known as trinikrono [05:00] cccangel: hitting ctrl + alt + backspace should kick you back into lightdm, though that might not be what you need [05:44] anybody there who can help on precise 12.04 with mysql and collation sets [05:44] i cant get the default collation to utf8_general_ci [05:45] its alway utf8_swedish_ci [06:02] what do i have to do to get help? [06:14] when issuing the command in mysql shell "show collation like 'latin1%';" it shows that utf8_swedish_ci is the default collation but the default charset is set in my.cnf to utf8_general_ci [06:57] He. Anyone with up-to-date packages having problem with their custom panel color? [06:58] sorry, I mean: launcher color [06:59] is it true that abdobe flash played does not support linux anymore? [06:59] I think so. [07:00] As long as you use google chrome, you can benefit from them maintaining their flash plugin. [07:00] Only will be distributed through chrome [07:00] good riddance as far as i'm concerned [07:01] agreed. [07:01] Strav: f*ck I think firefox is much more better. So are you using old versions of afp? [07:01] Btw about my issue, here's a short description. Whatever setting I set using either ccsm or ubuntu-tweak, my custom color gets overriden by the averaged color Unity samples from my current background. I tried: unity --reset, changing backgrounds, restarting X, reinstalling unity, etc. [07:02] chocimir: I don't much care for your taste in clothes and such. [07:05] Strav: that's ok. So r u using ff? if so, which version of adobe flash player do you have? [07:08] I'm using both chrome and firefox, but chrome is my main browser. If you want an up-to-date flash plugin, I'm not sure but perhaps you can make firefox use chrome's flash plugin that ships with it. === skellum2012 is now known as skellum [07:09] Anyways, aside from security issues, why would you need a cutting edge flash plugin? [07:11] hmmm [07:11] Strav: I think I dont need, I need something that works. [07:11] is beta 2 stabe yet? [07:11] or should I use 11.10 and wait a few days [07:12] rymate1234: depends one what are your needs. You run a mission critical server that needs constant uptime ;)? [07:12] Nah [07:12] I have a vps [07:12] That runs 11.04 [07:12] If it's a server you might want to wait [07:12] Oh then you really should ask for the sever edition. [07:12] but it's stable if you don't care [07:13] Strav, I believe its server edition [07:13] There is 10.04 [07:13] But I chose the os back when i though "newer is better, right?" [07:14] oh [07:14] question about 12.04 beta [07:14] when the fulll release comes out, can I do a straightforward upgrade? [07:15] If it would be my server, I would do a full backup before that's for sure. [07:15] Its for a desktop -_- [07:15] hello I can't solve problem for a weeks. while installing new kernels configs being generated forever.. [07:16] rymate1234: you'll be able to update to the release no problem [07:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/929067/ [07:17] rymate1234: ah. Then well, yes as les said, there should be no major problem (I did a desktop upgrade just yesterday, update-manager crashed but sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f did the trick. [07:17] ah ok [07:17] thx [07:18] Bwt, I always had better upgrade experiences when doing it from a virtual terminal. [07:18] * rymate1234 downloads a ubuntu daily build [07:18] LATEST UPDATES FTW [07:19] I hope unetbootin downloads a 12.04 daily build [07:19] can't you just make it use the iso? [07:21] how can I solve my issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/929067/ [07:22] MechanisM: you said it loops ad infinitum on this? [07:23] Strav nope I said it's freezes on it [07:23] here more http://paste.ubuntu.com/929071/ [07:24] I wonder if trying sudo update-initramfs -c -k all will do any good.. [07:25] ok, I'll try thanxx [07:26] Strav can you gimme more accurate command? http://paste.ubuntu.com/929073/ [07:26] Anyone else stuck with vivid pastel colors on their launcher? [07:26] sudo update-initramfs -c -k all [07:29] ohh well this command is successfull but after this when I'm upgrading it's freezed on same place. [07:30] MechanisM: do you have synaptic installed? [07:31] yes in synaptic the same [07:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/929079/ [07:31] (I'm wondering if you have broken packages) [07:31] nope [07:33] MechanisM: what does apt-get install -f gives you? [07:33] BEFORE INSTALLING NEW KERNEL EVERYTHING WAS FINE [07:33] hold on [07:35] Strav freezed on same place [07:38] perhaps try to remove the packages you're trying to install and install them anew. I'm sorry but I gotta go finish some work. Cya. === skellum is now known as skellum_ [07:48] hi all, looking for some help with a sudden error. Computer boots fine logs in but then takes forever to draw the icons and top bar. Mouse can move but no interaction can happen w/ desktop without massive delay and ends up not being usable at all. I have logged into an old kernel version and despite it not be able to configure my monitor correctly. Bizzarely things are working. I am running the latest kernel as well as the previo [07:48] us 3 in the 3.20.x series. [07:49] I thought it might be a bug that's fixed so I did a Ctrl + Alt + F1 and sudo apt-get upgrade -u but it didn't fix the problem [07:49] I have a problem with flash, videos on youtube work, but on other websides like liveleak they dont. [07:49] I have ubuntu oneric and adoble flash 11.202 [07:50] chocimir: wrong channel buddy. This is for Precise Pangolin support. Try #ubuntu instead. [07:51] somethinginteres: kk, sorry. [07:51] chocimir: it's np [07:55] Hello. Just out of curiosity, what purpose does this "Graphics" field serve inside the Details settings applet in GNOME Control Center? === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [08:46] Hi everyon I have a question about the Ubuntu LTS beta 12.04 [08:46] I am running this beta now [08:47] whats the issue Tiron [08:47] but do I need to install the Stable when it is released or does it automatically update? [08:47] !final | Tiron [08:47] Tiron: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Precise and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. [08:47] fantastic thanks [08:47] Tiron, may want to get that upgrade going before the actual moment of release though [08:48] okay will do [08:48] otherwise server slowness will be a big factor [08:48] should even be a factoid for that [08:48] !slow [08:48] The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates. Also, try changing !mirrors [08:48] hehe [08:51] ive installed beta2 a couple of times and it wont boot up. ive mounted it from another drive and want to get grub to update itself [08:51] how do i trigger the "rescue mode" in ub1108 ? [08:51] so it can reinstall grub /dev/sda using the menu generated from all drives [08:52] bouma, 11.08? [08:53] well 1204 wont start, ive gone back to oneiric [08:53] 11.10 would be that [08:53] uh i meant 1110 [08:53] right [08:53] shift at boot [08:53] support in #ubuntu [08:53] ok [08:54] at the end of the installer it give the error, error migrating data, and mentions /var/log/syslog [08:54] for which [08:55] for 1204 beta2 [08:55] ive repeated about 5times [08:55] uh i meant 1110 [08:55] ive used btrfs on a new partition/empty drive, and ext4, gave up on ext4 [08:56] bouma, you said you went back to 11.10 [08:57] ok, to clarify, i've installed ub1204beta2 about 5 times, because the final install wont boot when i configure my bios to boot from the WD where it is installed (the only WD in the machine). because i cant boot to ub1204b2 ive gone back into the bios and set it to boot from a seagate with oneiric, running presently [08:57] WD being what? [08:58] the md5sum is correct and the boot menu to verify the cd has successfully confirmed its ok. WD being a western digital sata3 drive [08:58] a brand name? [08:58] ok its not important, i just mentioned it because i havent confused drives or anything like that [09:00] bios should not enter into this if you have grub set up properly [09:00] i can definately say ive installed ub1204b2 to sda1 with the bootloader on sda, when the bios is directed to boot from sda it hangs with a flashing prompt [09:01] that was what I choose in the ub1204b2 installer. i want to reinstall grub to see if that lets it boot [09:02] is it safe to do sudo grub-install /dev/sda, this should rebuild a boot menu from all potential bootable partitions ? [09:04] bou [09:04] augh he quit [09:11] also after the ubuntu1204b2 installer reboots and i give up trying to get it to boot and instead start ub11.10, i check the sda with fdisk and it shows the Boot flag was clear? does this change anything ? will grub work without the fdisk boot flag? === krnekhelesh is now known as nik90 [09:13] i have a problem, my pc cannot recognize my wireless card after install ubuntu 12.04 [09:26] Ubuntu 12.04 setup works but it freezes after login. So I will use 10.04 until this will be fixed. PC: Dell Latitude D531. [09:29] Is my computer too old for the newest Ubuntu versions? [09:32] hello, i would like to now how clear custom created wifi network from list..? [09:43] When is it possible to already download the stable release of 12.04? [09:43] or how can I check if I already have it [09:44] Tiron, the stable of release of 12.04 is on the 26th april [09:44] okay [09:44] if you have been running the beta now, just keep updating [09:44] and you will automatically have the final freeze [09:46] nik90 thats nice.. [09:47] nik90 can you help me with some questions about apperence..? [09:47] alexstrand7 keep trying [09:47] Debro: right click the indicator and click edit connections then wireless then delete them [09:48] fishcooker I have tried many times, but it still don't work, it is a bug in the ATI driver [09:49] alleluya.. i have nvidia on my chips [09:49] :D [09:49] not good ATI [09:50] Debro, sure [09:50] Compiz is not working on 12.04 beta [09:50] It crashes [09:50] fishcooker I have an ATI card, I cant use another driver, the 10.04 driver works, why not use the same driver in 12.04? [09:51] I can't upgrade before someone fix it [09:53] ali1234, i dont have connection at wireles but i see it in hidden connections.. [09:53] I also have an Ubuntu 10.10 cd but it is useless for me because of the driver. The same problem occur in 12.04 [09:53] well, that's not what you asked [09:53] nik90, I where i can see opened applications if i minimize them to taskbar [09:54] Debro I had the same problem in 10.04 [09:54] alexstrand7, what you did to fix it..? [09:54] Debro, you are asking this for Unity right? [09:55] Debro I don't remember but I checked the wireless acces point, and if it's working I just switch off/on the wifi on my laptop [09:55] nik90, yes [09:56] alexstrand7, oh yes if i switch on/off if fix that problem.. it is lika a small bug.. [09:57] Debro, when you minimize an app, it is goes to the unity launcher...(the dock on the left).. [09:57] Debro, the current running apps are shown by a triangle to the left of the icon [09:57] alexstrand7, thanks for help... [09:57] Debro, if there are 2 triangles (one to the left and one to the right), then it means that that app is currently running and focussed [09:58] nik90, i have problem with skype and teamviewer [09:58] Debro, I can help you with skype [09:58] nik90, when i want to open them they open another instance of app [09:59] Debro, with skype it is different...when you close skype, it shows an icon in the top panel..to the right [09:59] Debro, you can click that to show skype [09:59] nik90, not for me.. [09:59] Debro, oh you dont see the skype icon on the top right? [10:00] nik90, yes thats the problem.. and the same for teamviewer [10:00] Debro, did you upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04? [10:00] nik90, no i created clean install off 12.04 [10:01] Debro, hmm that's wierd..skype has been whitelisted to show up in the top panel [10:01] Debro, are you running skype 2.2.0.35? [10:01] nik90, xchat also must be there.. also cant see it.. [10:01] Debro, oh yeah for xchat I am aware of the issue [10:02] nik90, can i get old appearance without unity and still keep unity..? [10:03] Debro, I do not understand your question...you mean how to get skype on top panel like before in unity? [10:04] skype is supposed to be whitelisted but it doesn't work at the moment for some reason [10:04] no i mean how to keep unity and use another older GUI [10:04] well you can keep unity and install gnome-classic [10:04] http://askubuntu.com/questions/39069/how-do-i-use-the-gnome-panel-in-unity [10:04] although I am not sure if that would solve your problem [10:07] ok will see how it goes.. [10:07] Ok, you can install Gnome in 12.04 but how can I install Unity in 10.04? [10:07] can i maximize app from system procesis or something..? [10:10] nik90, ali1234, now i need to install gnome-panel? or gnome-classic? [10:11] depends what exactly you want to do [10:11] ali1234, difference? [10:11] gnome classic is a whole other desktop, it includes gnome panel [10:11] you can select it on the login screen [10:11] you can also install just gnome panel and use it with unity, though it's kind of buggy [10:12] ali1234, your suggestion..? [10:12] try both and decide which works for you [10:13] ali1234, ok, ty! do you also now how to chek if video driver is installed..? [10:34] my wireless card didn't work for a long time [10:34] any suggestions? [10:35] and my os is ubuntu 12.04 [10:35] what chipset [10:37] Anyone know why from todays?? update NVIDIA (nvidia-current) stop work?? ( http://pastebin.com/gvfqrJF2 ) [10:37] bazhang: Intel WiFi Link 5100 [10:38] changed to gnome classic but i cant click properties [10:38] panx, new kernel? [10:39] panx And why doesn't ATI work? It's the same because both things is graphic cards and we will get the same problem if it doesn't work [10:39] ben pripably yes [10:39] ben? [10:39] baz xD [10:39] Sorry xD [10:39] panx, then start up in safe mode and install the drivers [10:39] ie recovery mode, then reboot once installed [10:40] =F [10:40] this help? [10:40] bazhang I have the same problem with an ATI driver, but I gave up getting 12.04 to work [10:41] i have problem with my NVIDIA i dont now if it works or not.. :P [10:41] alexstrand7, which card [10:41] I can't remember the whole name. But it is an ATI radeon. My PC is an Dell Latitude D531 [10:41] Debro, giving more detailed info is helpful, like exact card model [10:41] alexstrand7, lspci to see [10:41] bazhang, Your name is like an ointment for hemorrhoids :D [10:42] GeForce 8400GS [10:42] panx, thanks, I guess [10:42] bazhang, "bazag - and forgot about hemorrhoids " ;] [10:42] Debro, I have nearly the same card, works a charm [10:42] bazhang, how can i check mine..? [10:43] bazhang Why wanted Ubuntu to break their promise just because they forget to install ATI drivers with Ubuntu? [10:43] Debro, for drivers? in the additional drivers section or with jockey-gtk? [10:43] !info jockey-gtk [10:43] after 10.10 to newer it will not work [10:43] jockey-gtk (source: jockey): GNOME user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu5 (precise), package size 8 kB, installed size 126 kB [10:44] alexstrand7, wont work? fglrx? or what. amdccle ? [10:44] bazhang, dont now what i need do to see if it works.. cause in Details I see Driver: Unknown and Expirience: Standart [10:45] Debro, you'd need to install the drivers then [10:45] alexstrand7, what exact card? [10:45] damn..... not working after instalation drivers from Safe mode ;/ ( sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current / install nvidia-current) [10:45] and reboot [10:45] bazhang, at additiona driver i have one activated.. [10:45] so im wairing for patch to kerner [10:46] waiting* [10:46] wait.. xD [10:46] Any of you running kvm hosts/guests with 12.04? [10:47] damna... and i cannot playing Minecraft now .... aww... -.- [10:48] bazhang it is an ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 Setup completes when In login it freezes, and when I'm booting my old os I searched for it on google and it says it is a graphic bug. [10:48] alexstrand7, got a link to the bug page? [10:48] bazhang, nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version current-updates) [10:48] I have 4 machines running 12.04 updated today as kvm hosts running a handful of 12.04 and a couple 10.04 guests. [10:49] ok bye, thanks 4all :) [10:49] baqzhang no,If I can't login then I can't report it [10:49] The 12.04 guests randomly stop responding to network. tcpdump on the guest shows that it's still receiving packets but no longer sending any. [10:49] alexstrand7, you said you saw on the web. presumably that had a link. [10:49] The 10.04 guests have yet to have this problem. [10:50] anyone now why i cant see skype icon in right corner..? [10:50] I can't seem to manually cause it to happen. Seems random after ~24 hours of uptime. [10:50] ifdown/up does not resolve it. I have to reboot the guest. [10:51] bazhang it is deleted, I can't find it back [10:51] I found one for 10.10 but it is the same problem [10:51] could i get any help [10:52] bazhang here is one for 11.10 but it is still the same error http://www.linuxine.com/story/how-do-you-make-dell-latitude-d531-ubuntu-1110-show-task-bar-and-unity-dock [10:57] hello... [10:58] i need some help with graphic card, skype and unity [11:00] Someone knows about how to fix this? This is the same problem I got in 12.04 http://www.linuxine.com/story/how-do-you-make-dell-latitude-d531-ubuntu-1110-show-task-bar-and-unity-dock [11:13] awww need help with unity, skype and geforce 8400 [11:15] Finally able to break one after a few rsyncs. [11:16] At the end of that bug report, someone recommends disabling event_idx. So I'll give that a go and see if I can repro the failure. [11:34] * nik90 trying out IRC in empathy [11:35] hi nekhelesh [11:36] unfortunately for alexstrand7 [11:36] how about press shift after restart [11:36] then choose ubuntu after grub load [11:36] i've realized my friend also facing the problem [11:37] n booting well [11:37] jokerdino, hi [11:37] jokerdino, can you confirm if this message is addressed to you... in the sense that you get pinged [11:39] yes it does nik90 [11:39] jokerdino, awesome....trying out empathy after using xchat for a long time [11:40] nice :) [11:40] nik90: start typing a really long sentence... lulz ensues [11:40] nik90: also, try copy pasting from empathy... more lulz ensues [11:41] i am waiting :D [11:41] he's probably raging [11:41] airtonix, ?..hmm ok..This is a really really really really really really really really really really really reallyreallyreally long sentence :P [11:41] airtonix, jokerdino ...hahaha [11:41] notice how emapthy makes the window expand to fit the sentence, instead of making the sentence word wrap [11:41] raging heh? [11:42] airtonix...nope for me the sentence wraps [11:42] when you're typing it [11:43] airtonix...that's ok.. [11:43] it's actually really annoying [11:43] atleast it returns it to its original state after sending [11:43] since i don't have a habit of defining my windows widths and heights by the letters i type in them [11:43] i don't expect empathy to behave any differently [11:43] and yet [11:44] airtonix, my actual empathy window size remains the same...the input text box heigh starting increasing...but then returned to its original size after sending the text [11:45] it used to make the entire window width expand to fit the sentence [11:45] instead of just word wrapping it [11:45] ok that's doesnt happen to me...but I can see how annoying it would have been [11:45] and it also stayed at that new width [11:46] nik90, hello.. i installed gnome panel but i cant customize it what is a problem? [11:46] hold alt [11:46] then right click Debro [11:46] airtonix, not working [11:46] Debro, I have no experience with gnome-panel... sorry :( [11:47] Debro: if you're using Compiz, you'll need to hold down Alt+Windows key while right-clicking [11:47] airtonix, do you get the bug where skype icon is not present in the top panel as an indicator? [11:47] i don't use skype [11:48] jbicha, looks like im using Compiz.. :P [11:49] who can help me with Geforce 8400 drivers [11:50]