[12:40] <njin> bug 981540
[12:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981540 in linux "[gm45] False GPU lockup EIR: 0x00000010 PGTBL_ER: 0x00000001" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981540
[13:01] <coutts99_> bug 981087
[13:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981087 in thunderbird "thunderbird exits if i'm scrolling down the text of an e-mail" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981087
[13:17] <ockham> can someone provide me with an answer to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/121986/how-do-i-report-printing-related-bugs
[13:21]  * penguin42 looks
[13:22] <penguin42> ockham: Can you describe your bug a little?
[13:22] <ockham> penguin42: if Libreoffice's printing workflow language is set to PDF, printing appears to be quite a bit slower than if it's set to a Postscript level.
[13:22] <ockham> what seems to be particularly long with the PDF worflow is the time between individual pages of a multi-page document
[13:23] <ockham> that time is much shorter if I'm using Postscript workflow
[13:24] <penguin42> oh hmm - let me try and write an answer in ask ubuntu and then lets go from there
[13:24] <ockham> penguin42: sounds good!
[13:25] <ockham> btw, as ubuntu-bug already offers audio, storage, and display related problems (all with quite complex stacks), maybe it should also offer printing related?
[13:28] <ockham> penguin42: ^
[13:28] <ockham> *preparing to file wishlist bug against apport*
[13:30] <penguin42> ockham: OK, see that
[13:32] <penguin42> ockham: Seems a reasonable request
[13:37] <ockham> penguin42: just filed bug 981586 for that
[13:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981586 in apport "Apport should offer printing related bugs on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981586
[13:38] <ockham> wait, let me change that bug title
[13:38] <ockham> better: bug 981586
[13:38] <ockham> hm, ubot only strikes once?
[13:39] <ockham> anyway, it's 'Apport should offer a "Printing related problems" option on startup' now
[13:40] <penguin42> yeh, just set the status on it
[13:43] <penguin42> ockham: OK, so going back to your problem - if you get libreoffice to produce a postscript or to export to a PDF file how are the speeds when producing and viewing them?
[13:44] <ockham> penguin42: i'll try that in a sec
[13:49] <ockham> both seem equally fast
[13:51] <ockham> btw, what's also funny is that i can't seem to select postscript level 3 -- it always goes back to level 2 when opening the settings dialog again...
[13:52] <penguin42> ockham: OK, I don't know the difference between 2 and 3; ok, so if I get this right you're saying printing pdf is taking much longer than printing postscript, but producing either ps or pdf from libreoffice takes about the same time?
[13:52] <ockham> penguin42: yup
[13:53] <penguin42> ockham: OK, so now you produced the pdf and ps files  if you print the files do they take similar times or does the pdf still take a lot longer? (Oh and when we say a lot longer, can you give me some idea of the two times)
[13:54] <ockham> penguin42: the problem is, i don't have the relevant printer available right now...
[13:54] <penguin42> haha ok, well that's what I'd try - are we talking seconds or minutes?
[13:55] <ockham> TBH i'm doing this for someone else. person says it's 2 vs 10 min for 30 pages
[13:55] <penguin42> ok, that's a big difference
[13:55] <penguin42> ockham: What type of printer?
[13:56] <ockham> HP photosmart C4380
[13:56] <ockham> as for the driver, cups says  hpcups 3.11.7
[13:56] <ockham> connected via wifi
[13:56] <ockham> but that's probably the kind of stuff i should probably fill into a cups bug now?
[13:57] <penguin42> ockham: Yeh
[13:58] <penguin42> ockham: I can think of a few reasons; if the pdf file is much larger then maybe that's the issue; or maybe it always converts the pdf to postscript internally that takes a bit longer; but then the other thought is that inkjets have a lot of different modes - especially the photo ones where they adjust the different qualities and stuff, and I'm just wondering if it's making different choices on the two routes
[13:59] <ockham> penguin42: that's about what i figured too, but hey, why not let uptream ponder this?
[14:00] <ockham> ;-)
[14:00] <ockham> btw, my sample pdfs that i just generated are about 3 times smaller than the corresponding ps files
[14:02] <penguin42> ockham: They probably won't ponder it too much unless you can give them a sample that exhibits it
[14:02] <penguin42> ockham: are his pdf's huge?
[14:03] <ockham> penguin42: i guess no; just ODTs with no photos etc
[14:03] <penguin42> oh, ok that's very odd
[14:17] <ockham> penguin42: ok, posted bug 981620
[14:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981620 in cups "Printing a LibreOffice document via PDF workflow is much slower than with PostScript workflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981620
[14:18] <ockham> (and bug 981606 along the way)
[14:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981606 in libreoffice "Cannot select Postscript level 3 printing workflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981606
[14:20] <penguin42> ockham: That might be printer specific - so you probably need to add some more information; e.g. printer that the libreoffice currently has selected?
[14:28] <ockham> you mean that latter Postscript level bug? or the other (PDF vs PS) one?
[14:29] <penguin42> the postscript level bug
[14:33] <ockham> added printer information
[15:17] <coutts99_> bug #981656
[15:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981656 in linux "le kernel paging request at b696c010 (dup-of: 981655)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981656
[15:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981655 in linux "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at b696c010" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981655
[15:17] <coutts99_> bug #981657
[15:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 981657 in linux "le kernel paging request at b696c010 (dup-of: 981655)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981657
[15:19] <penguin42> coutts99: Those are all from the same user, but the other 2 versions of the bug have much better back traces
[15:33] <coutts99_> penguin42: i've makred tha later two as duplicates of the first
[15:34] <coutts99_> penguin42: im new, is that the best thing to do? :)
[15:34] <penguin42> coutts99_: Normally we don't dupe kernel bugs, it might be worth putting comments in to say they're similar
[15:36] <coutts99_> penguin42: ok, can i de-deuplicate them? I thought they were all the same bug reported multiple times
[15:37] <penguin42> coutts99_: Yeh I agree in this case, although for kernel ones best to ask in #ubuntu-kernel, also although normally we dupe to lowest number, it's best to dupe to the one with the best description/logs - in the oops text
[15:38] <coutts99_> penguin42: ok, noted
[15:43] <penguin42> coutts99_: if the oops text absolutely match it's a pretty good guess
[17:52] <bmoresbest55> i am having a bug where the computer shuts down almost all the way. it goes almost into a sleep/hibernate mode instead of shutting down. everything is off except for the power. is anyone else having this same problem?
[17:56] <dlentz> bmoresbest55, is this a laptop?
[17:56] <bmoresbest55> yes
[17:56] <dlentz> what kind?
[17:56] <bmoresbest55> dell m1530
[17:59] <dlentz> mayb eit's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/944772
[17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 944772 in linux "shutdown does not work" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:00] <penguin42> it can often be very BIOS specific
[18:02] <bmoresbest55> BIOS? is there any way to modify it or anything else to fix?
[20:20] <wmp> hello
[20:20] <wmp> maybe in 12.04 i found bug in locale
[20:20] <wmp> but - i dont know ;)
[20:21] <wmp> in my system  mon_decimal_point is empty