[00:45] <jrgifford> yano: yeah, thats nice.
[00:45] <jrgifford> i'm going to try and convince dad to swap the house over to ipv6.
[00:49] <yano> i realize that my sites aren't working over ipv6 :-(
[00:49] <yano> i think something is wrong with apache, because the domains are resolving to the correct ipv6 addresses
[00:52] <yano> woot got it to work, apparently the last time i restarted my routes dissappeared
[00:55] <yano> sweet, now i can ssh proxy ipv6 connections from firefox
[01:03] <yano> jrgifford: you watching the cyberpunk video?
[01:27] <jrgifford> yano: no, i had to leave, dad wasn't feeling good.
[01:29] <jrgifford> I think I'll run a devops 101 discussion or something tomorrow. just for kicks, since i'm really enjoying this stuff.
[01:30] <jrgifford> quickly re-setup a dual boot for my other laptop, install virtual box on it and fire up a few other VMs or something.
[08:36] <BiosElement2> I really dunno why people contact tech support for help and choose to call me a liar for stating the facts. >.> Don't ask if you don't want to know...
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[13:50] <canthus13> wh  Indiana Linux Fest... It's like a ghost town. 5 vendors.
[13:51] <dzho> canthus13: where?
[13:51]  * dzho googles
[13:52] <canthus13> Indianapolis.
[13:52] <dzho> oof
[13:52] <canthus13> On the plus side, I got my BSD horns this year. :) they have tons of them.
[13:53] <dzho> ah, right by the airport
[13:54] <canthus13> Right under the flight path, even.
[14:33] <yano> i see the Rock N' Roll hall of fame induction is today. traffic is going to be terrible
[14:35] <jrgifford> yeah, it will be. the weather won't help much either. :\
[14:36]  * yano checks the weather
[14:36] <jrgifford> it was raining earlier on my way in.
[14:37] <yano> ooh thunderstorms! :-)
[14:37] <yano> i might be outside today, :-P
[14:38] <jrgifford> :D
[15:42] <gilbert> paultag: nice work on the gcc47 build failures :)
[15:42] <paultag> gilbert: thanks man :P
[15:42] <paultag> I hate stuff holding back progress
[15:43] <gilbert> yaya
[15:43] <paultag> what's new, gilbert?
[15:43] <gilbert> not a whole lot actually
[15:43] <paultag> well, no news is good news :)
[15:43] <gilbert> yeah
[15:43] <gilbert> how about you?
[15:44] <gilbert> i like how you tagged your post "frasier"
[15:44] <paultag> not much, finally got my last +1 for NM, so I'm waiting on AM, which is cool. Work's great, a bit tired, but s'all good
[15:44] <paultag> hahaha, every blog post I have has one goofy tag :)
[15:44] <paultag> I like noticing which people notice :)
[15:45] <gilbert> haha paultag playing sociological experiments
[15:45] <paultag> >:)
[15:47] <paultag> gilbert: how's life @debian.org? :)
[15:48] <gilbert> i dunno, it doesn't really seem that different yet actually...
[15:49] <gilbert> kinda weird
[15:49] <paultag> Yeah, I'm sure it's really only debian-private and people bugging you for sponsorship :)
[15:49] <gilbert> i still feel restricted.  i've been trying to fix the state of wine but i'm not really getting anywhere
[15:49] <paultag> oh jeez
[15:50] <paultag> wine's a mess from what I can tell, what's blocking you?
[15:50] <gilbert> paultag: there is absolutely nothing going on now in debian-private except boring vacation notices
[15:50] <paultag> yeah :)
[15:50] <gilbert> http://bugs.debian.org/585409
[15:51] <gilbert> haven't really got any sponsorship requests yet
[15:51] <gilbert> did get a key signing request, but when i asked the guy what he does for debian, he never replied back
[15:51] <gilbert> so oh well
[15:52] <paultag> gilbert: wow, that post from msp is fucking lame
[15:52] <paultag> gilbert: yeah, lame. Oh well :)
[15:53] <paultag> gah
[15:53] <paultag> this is one giant ugly thread
[15:53] <gilbert> oh yes indeed
[15:53] <gilbert> :(
[15:54] <paultag> gilbert: you could do a hostile NMU ;)
[15:54] <gilbert> i know, but that's bound to stir a lot of trouble
[15:54] <paultag> gah, this thread is a mess
[15:54] <paultag> yeah, for sure. Totally joking :)
[15:55] <canthus13> Whee. This MySQL dude is a bore....
[15:56] <paultag> gilbert: dude, last 5 messages were yours
[15:56] <paultag> that's so lame
[15:56] <paultag> how do they not say "Here's the commit bit, go nuts"
[15:56] <paultag> canthus13: :)
[15:56] <canthus13> "Don't use ext2"  Who the fsck is gonna use ext2 on a database server built after 2001?
[15:57] <paultag> right?
[15:57] <canthus13> You'd have to put in extra work to install with ext2...
[15:58] <gilbert> paultag: i have no f'ing clue.  its rediculous.  right now i'm sort of just making a point
[15:58] <paultag> gilbert: keep making it, this thread is a fucking mess
[15:58] <paultag> this is what gives Debian a bad name
[15:59] <paultag> old versions and grumpy maintainers
[15:59] <gilbert> indeed
[15:59] <gilbert> and the social intractibility of allowing stogy maintainers to do this kind of thing
[15:59] <paultag> yeah, totally
[16:01] <gilbert> oh, and some random person has started a new thread about in on -devel just now...whee!
[16:01] <gilbert> not sure what i want to say there...
[16:01] <paultag> oh man
[16:01] <paultag> I'm so happy I'm not on d-devel
[16:02] <gilbert> you really should be as a prospective dd
[16:02] <gilbert> it doesn't get as ugly as it used to
[16:02] <paultag> I was on it for a long time, but it's just flame-war after flame-war
[16:02] <paultag> I just sit on -announce :)
[16:02] <paultag> but you're right, I suspect
[16:03] <paultag> alright, re-joined it. Let's see how long it lasts :P
[16:31] <gilbert> oh, one more thing about being a dd, i did vote in the election ;)
[16:51] <paultag> gilbert: haha, awesome! Good ole' Nota?
[16:52] <paultag> (kidding, I don't want to know :) )
[17:25] <Cheri703_> I am making progress in my sec+ study stuff!
[17:25] <canthus13> Cheri703_: Woo. :)
[17:26] <Cheri703_> I've finished 9/11 chapters, taken the practice tests after each, and have gotten 210/217 practice questions correct! \o/
[17:26] <canthus13> awesome. :)
=== Cheri703_ is now known as Cheri703
[17:26] <Cheri703> granted, that is read it/test it, but I'm going to go back through and re-test
[17:26]  * canthus13 should start that again.
[17:27] <Cheri703> let me know if you want my book once I am done, perhaps a trade for that laptop :)
[17:28] <canthus13> Sounds good. I'll prolly get that laptop in the mail friday.
[17:28] <Cheri703> ok, cool :)
[17:29] <canthus13> ...yay for unprepared speakers.
[17:29] <paultag> canthus13: heckle!
[17:30] <canthus13> paultag: he's using OpenSUSE. He's heckling himself.
[17:30] <paultag> I love heckling
[17:30] <paultag> oh man
[17:30] <paultag> so awesome
[17:30] <paultag> OpenSuSE is such a joke
[17:30] <canthus13> needs to add recordmydesktop... and OpenSUSE doesn't have it in the standard repos.
[17:30] <paultag> hahahahaha
[17:30] <canthus13> so he had to add a repo and install it... over crappy hotel wifi.
[17:31] <paultag> heckle!
[17:31] <canthus13> This is so slow I'm outtyping the connection.
[17:31] <paultag> tell him you've got a Debian ISO
[17:31] <canthus13> Hahaha. :)
[17:31] <paultag> I carry an Ubuntu stick for just such occasions
[17:31] <canthus13> He ignored me.
[17:31] <paultag> hahahahaha
[17:31] <canthus13> and gave up.
[17:32] <paultag> oh man, fail!
[17:32] <canthus13> So he's gonna give his presentation without recording it.
[17:32] <canthus13> On creating your own domain with Samba and LDAP.
[17:32]  * paultag cringes
[17:32] <canthus13> Poor guy works full time for SUSE.
[17:32] <paultag> oh god
[17:33] <canthus13> heh.
[17:33] <canthus13> the MySQL guy was kinda blah, but fairly informative.
[17:33] <canthus13> and they have a hackerspace here!
[17:33] <canthus13> they're sharing their room with a bunch of lockpicking nuts. Pretty fun stuff.
[17:33] <paultag> oh cool
[17:35] <paultag> alright, i'm off for a while
[17:35] <paultag> love y'alls
[17:35] <canthus13> later.
[17:36] <Cheri703> canthus13: I wish I could go to conferences :s I haven't heard back about this work from home thing (am SUPER anxious about it), if it happens, I will totally be travelling as much as possible :)
[17:37] <canthus13> Cheri703: Cool.
[17:37] <canthus13> Cheri703: speaking of which, if you need a ride to OLF, we can prolly pick you up.
[17:37] <Cheri703> Thanks! I will keep that in mind
[17:37] <canthus13> no prob.
[17:46] <canthus13> Cheri703: they're doing an all-day Python for Women workshop.  Looks to be pretty full, unlike the rest of the fest. :/
[17:47] <Cheri703> that's cool that they're doing it, bummer that the fest is not very well populated
[17:47] <canthus13> yeah. only 5 vendors showed. no ubuntu booth. :/
[17:48] <Cheri703> :s
[17:49] <canthus13> Kit's having fun, though. :)
[17:49] <Cheri703> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/geeksAreSexyTechnologyNews/~3/4oseVJ9_188/
[17:49] <Cheri703> that's good :)
[17:49] <canthus13> Haha. Cute. :)
[17:52] <Cheri703> ok, off to work, have fun!
[17:52] <canthus13> later. :)
[19:59] <jrgifford> yano: so, now when i tried to download another 3MB package, i get 16.4 kB/s. lol
[19:59] <jrgifford> I think they are QoS'ing all package managers.
[19:59] <yano> jrgifford: yea, I was coding earlier over SSH and my SSH session timed out.
[20:00] <jrgifford> yano: dang, that takes... a slow connection.
[20:00] <yano> jrgifford: actually the 1pm talk about Setting Up a Con network described how their network here is set up
[20:00] <jrgifford> thank the lord for tmux and screen
[20:00] <jrgifford> yano: ugh, i was at lunch then, otherwise i would have been in there.
[20:00] <yano> they have a VPN through the hotel's connection that is able to shape traffic between it is sent from the ISP to the hotel
[20:01] <jrgifford> oh, that makes sense. also explains why my IP is showing up at port clinton
[20:01] <yano> yea, it's pretty complex
[20:16] <yano> instead of tunneling via ssh i'm trying a VPN
[20:18] <Unit193> Never really set one up, should do that at some point...
[20:27] <yano> no tunnleing or VPNing -- http://www.speedtest.net/result/1894680436.png
[20:27] <yano> VPN -- http://www.speedtest.net/result/1894676026.png
[20:28] <yano> did nothing
[20:31] <jrgifford> yeah, its not really that nice.
[20:35] <yano> nope :-(
[20:35] <yano> is there a command to test bandwidth? besides just measuring the last number of downloading something with curl/wget ?
[21:04] <canthus13> yano: testing bandwidth accurately requires a server at the other end.
[21:05] <yano> canthus13: yea, isn't there a command where it could do a speedtest like speedtest.net but via the cli? (where you feed in a server or something)