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| LLStarks | hi, i haven't been able to get the nouveau module to load for the past few weeks | 02:23 |
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| LLStarks | i get FATAL: Module off not found. | 02:23 |
| LLStarks | not sure what that's supposed to mean | 02:24 |
| Sarvatt | LLStarks: that means you have nvidia-current installed i believe | 02:26 |
| Sarvatt | can't use wayland with it installed | 02:26 |
| Sarvatt | err cant use nouveau sorry | 02:27 |
| Sarvatt | nouveau is aliased to off in the nvidia package | 02:27 |
| LLStarks | that's harmful towards my hybrid-graphics testing | 02:28 |
| LLStarks | i can't switch drivers on the fly | 02:28 |
| Sarvatt | of course you cant, nvidia sets up alternates for all of the mesa and x crap you need to be using to use nouveau | 02:29 |
| LLStarks | well, i could before | 02:29 |
| LLStarks | but now i can't | 02:29 |
| Sarvatt | it hasnt changed in a few releases | 02:29 |
| LLStarks | i'm getting invalid symbols and crap | 02:30 |
| Sarvatt | i dont know what you're doing but assuming bumblebee, update-alternatives switching to mesa needs to be called switching to mesa instead of nvidia the same as it has for the past few releases | 02:30 |
| LLStarks | nouveau.ko will not load | 02:30 |
| LLStarks | no matter what | 02:30 |
| LLStarks | i'm not worrying about mesa or the ddx | 02:31 |
| Sarvatt | using the nvidia alternates sets up the blacklist for nouveau | 02:31 |
| LLStarks | >nvidia-current_hybrid.conf | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | really? | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | alias nouveau off | 02:32 |
| Sarvatt | nothing has changed there, i dont know what changed for you recently because thats weird, its been 2 releases since its changed | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | wyf | 02:32 |
| Sarvatt | yeah | 02:32 |
| Sarvatt | using nvidia does that | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | this is new | 02:32 |
| Sarvatt | new as in 11.04 | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | don't do this | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | it's not necessary | 02:32 |
| Sarvatt | dont tell me, tell tseliot, or tell whatever stuff you're using outside of the distro thats not calling update-alternates to switch to mesa when you switch to nouveau | 02:33 |
| LLStarks | leave the modules alone, alternates are the only thing that need to be messed around with until PRIME lands later this year | 02:34 |
| Sarvatt | the alternates set up the blacklist, if its switching it should be fine | 02:34 |
| Sarvatt | maybe whatever you're using isn't calling update-initramfs to remove the blacklist from the initrd? | 02:35 |
| LLStarks | it's not switching | 02:35 |
| LLStarks | if i want to use wine, i need to modify the ld_library_path | 02:35 |
| LLStarks | afaik, nouveau loading first does not harm nvidia-current | 02:36 |
| Sarvatt | sure it does, it refuses to load if you do it | 02:36 |
| Sarvatt | nvidia prints messages about how you need to blacklist nouveau to use it | 02:37 |
| LLStarks | it's not a problem for me if nouveau is available | 02:37 |
| LLStarks | or loaded for that matter | 02:37 |
| LLStarks | the focus should be on keeping the card off using bbswitch as opposing to letting any driver load unless explicitly modprobed | 02:38 |
| Sarvatt | LLStarks: keeping bbswitch internal to something not in any distro doesn't help that cause :) bbswitch is awesome. | 02:40 |
| LLStarks | Sarvatt, well, it's the one thing that none of the people at dma_buf prime haven't considered | 03:08 |
| LLStarks | there is no other acpi solution | 03:08 |
| LLStarks | *people hacking away at | 03:08 |
| alex_mayorga | Can anyone here look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745481 should I file it to launchpad too? | 20:35 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 745481 in Untriaged "MapsGL doesn't render properly on nouveau" [Normal,New: ] | 20:35 |
| Sarvatt | alex_mayorga: wow, you can use mapsgl on nouveau? its a constant stream of gpu hangs on intel, i'm amazed webgl on mesa isn't blacklisted in firefox but other webgl pages do work fine | 20:48 |
| alex_mayorga | Sarvatt: I could until a few days ago =( | 20:53 |
| alex_mayorga | Filed it on Launchpad as the problem happens on Chromium Bug #981883 | 20:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 981883 in xorg (Ubuntu) " MapsGL doesn't render properly on nouveau" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981883 | 20:54 |
| alex_mayorga | Ask me anything =) | 20:55 |
| LLStarks | mapsgl just sucks | 20:57 |
| Sarvatt | chromium shouldn't even allow webgl on mesa 8 because its busted, what chromium are you using? | 20:57 |
| LLStarks | it doesn't work right with snb | 20:57 |
| tjaalton | alex_mayorga: could you file it upstream? :) | 20:57 |
| alex_mayorga | Sarvatt: 18.0.1025.151 (Developer Build 130497 Linux) Ubuntu 12.04 | 20:58 |
| alex_mayorga | tjaalton: How? | 20:58 |
| Sarvatt | oh maybe its just fixed in later chromium, not the one in the archive :( i'm on 20.x | 20:58 |
| alex_mayorga | Sarvatt: I use Mozilla's Nightly too and is the exact same bad rendering so I don't think is the browser | 20:59 |
| tjaalton | alex_mayorga: fdo mesa, nouveau dri | 21:00 |
| alex_mayorga | Sarvatt: Where do you get latest Chromium from? The PPA I have hasn't been updated in ages | 21:00 |
| alex_mayorga | tjaalton: Let me give that a try | 21:00 |
| Sarvatt | alex_mayorga: yeah its not, but mesa doesn't work well with webgl and needs to be blacklisted :( theres a very high chance any fix wont even be able to be backported to SRU to precise too now that nouveau is getting reworked | 21:01 |
| Sarvatt | oh sorry i meant chrome not chromium, gave up on chromium because the daily builds stopped too | 21:03 |
| alex_mayorga | Maybe I got that into myself https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729817#c50 =( | 21:03 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 729817 in Graphics "freezes and crashes @ nouveau_dri.so when on github" [Critical,Verified: fixed] | 21:03 |
| Sarvatt | hmm INTEL_HIZ=0 fixes mapsgl on intel | 21:03 |
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, how do you expect ivybridge to be working with precise in terms of stability and performance? | 21:04 |
| alex_mayorga | I can tell that it was working fine some weeks ago | 21:04 |
| Sarvatt | bjsnider: its awesome, unless you care about eDP or the limited 3 head support they have :) | 21:04 |
| bjsnider | edp? | 21:05 |
| Sarvatt | internal some video connection laptops use | 21:05 |
| Sarvatt | bjsnider: 11.10 is great on ivybridge too, thats mostly what i've been doing since the OEM machines will ship with 11.10 | 21:05 |
| alex_mayorga | http://webglsamples.googlecode.com/hg/aquarium/aquarium.html still works fine on Nightly, so maybe is Google's fault after all | 21:06 |
| mlankhorst | is ivy bridge out yet? | 21:06 |
| Sarvatt | except it needs oneiric-updates, they broke things in vbios 2 times after 11.10 came out | 21:06 |
| Sarvatt | mlankhorst: nope.. | 21:07 |
| bjsnider | the release date is the 23rd i think | 21:07 |
| mlankhorst | aw | 21:07 |
| alex_mayorga | tjaalton: Should I still file upstream? | 21:08 |
| alex_mayorga | Looks more like a "page issue" | 21:08 |
| mlankhorst | does it overclock better than sandy bridge? :p | 21:09 |
| Sarvatt | no clue, reference boards and laptops i have dont allow overclocking | 21:10 |
| mlankhorst | ah sad, running my 2500k pretty stably on 4.6ghz 24/7, ivy would probably be slower than that :) | 21:11 |
| bjsnider | not for graphics | 21:12 |
| bjsnider | the metrics i've seen it hit are a lot higher than sandybridge | 21:12 |
| Sarvatt | if you're overclocking a desktop its safe to say you arent using an IGP :) | 21:12 |
| mlankhorst | yeah | 21:13 |
| imbrandon | ok whom can i bribe with hardware to make my usb displaylink dvi adapter "just work" , its got me pulling my hair out | 21:20 |
| jwi | imbrandon: i think 3.4 has a new driver for those devices | 21:24 |
| imbrandon | 3.4 ? | 21:24 |
| imbrandon | sorry i'm wayyyy un X knowhow, been hacking linux for years, X is black magic to me | 21:24 |
| imbrandon | i'm guessing Xorg 3.4 ? i'm on precise upto date with the xorg-displaylink driver installed | 21:25 |
| jwi | imbrandon: the upcoming 3.4 linux release :) | 21:25 |
| imbrandon | ahhh | 21:25 |
| imbrandon | kernel :) | 21:25 |
| imbrandon | kk | 21:25 |
| imbrandon | well i kinda have it working | 21:26 |
| imbrandon | sorta | 21:26 |
| imbrandon | lol | 21:26 |
| imbrandon | its green screen on boot ( its a 3rd monitor ) other two are native diplay port on a mac mini | 21:26 |
| imbrandon | and i can add a conf file to the .d dir | 21:26 |
| imbrandon | and reboot and it works perfect | 21:27 |
| imbrandon | peoblem is the other two are then out of commission | 21:27 |
| imbrandon | heh | 21:27 |
| imbrandon | so that is where i lay. broken and only 2 of 3 displays working :( | 21:27 |
| imbrandon | but i do have an extra on my desk :) | 21:28 |
| imbrandon | usb adapter not display :) | 21:28 |
| * imbrandon wonders off, anyone hilight my name if you have ideas , i'm game, and if it helps i'll send you one to keep if it takes that | 21:29 | |
| alex_mayorga | Sarvatt, tjaalton : So should I upstream the bug? | 22:05 |
| Sarvatt | alex_mayorga: it would be much appreciated if you would pass it along to bugs.freedesktop.org because it needs to go there to get fixed, but i dont think anyone will respond honestly and blacklisting webgl which you convinced mozilla to stop doing is the more appropriate option :( | 22:10 |
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