[05:25] <ikt> yay free time
[05:27] <ikt> anyone running the 12.04 final beta?
[05:29] <sagaci> yup
[05:31] <ikt> whatcha think so far?
[05:31] <sagaci> it's good so far
[05:32] <ikt> I'm getting over the anti-unity stuff pretty fast these days
[05:32] <sagaci> 11.04 unity was pretty meh but it's certainly got a lot better
[05:32] <ikt> If you hate unity so much why not use Lubuntu or Xubuntu or Kubuntu or Mint or Debian Mint or any of the thousands of other distros ?? this is linux, you're not forced to use a certain DE
[05:32] <ikt> 11.04 was the worst release of ubuntu ever I think :/
[05:32] <ikt> but then I read that instagram is running on ubuntu 11.04
[05:35] <sagaci> yup, I'll install ubuntu and kubuntu
[05:37] <benonsoftware> I'll install 12.04 when APC has it on their cover DVD
[05:38] <ikt> ah
[05:38] <ikt> you're taking the first month off to see if they fix major bugs?
[05:38] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, You don't have unmetered access to a repo through bigpond, iinet, etc?
[05:38] <benonsoftware> jaddi27: Nope :(
[05:38] <ikt> http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/another-billion-dollar-open-source-company-instagram/index.htm 
[05:38] <ikt> We run Ubuntu Linux 11.04 (“Natty Narwhal”) on Amazon EC2. We’ve found previous versions of Ubuntu had all sorts of unpredictable freezing episodes on EC2 under high traffic, but Natty has been solid.
[05:38] <jaddi27> benonsoftware, Who are you with?
[05:39] <benonsoftware> Telstra, but pre-paid
[05:39] <benonsoftware> and I believe they don't have unmetered stuff
[05:39] <jaddi27> ah, ok. That is quite annoying then
[05:40] <benonsoftware> Yeah that is a pain
[05:42] <benonsoftware> Price for it is bad but it will cost $300 to change ISPs
[05:42] <jaddi27> post-paid bigpond wireless gets unmetered content from http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au
[05:43] <jaddi27> i guess you could try a small file from there to see what happens
[05:43] <benonsoftware> Tired it a while, counted :(
[05:43] <benonsoftware> Post-paid bigpong is great if you have two or more things with them
[05:43] <benonsoftware> I just have the internet and that's all
[05:43] <jaddi27> ok. maybe time to write a letter to them saying it would be great if they would offer it on prepaid
[05:44] <benonsoftware> I was thinking that before, might do that when I get a free weekend
[05:56] <ikt> I don't think they'll offer it
[05:56] <ikt> just my jaded view :P
[05:56] <ikt> waiting for the nbn!
[05:57] <jaddi27> probably not, but it can't hurt to try
[06:15] <ikt> fairly happy with 12.04, I'm not sure where else ubuntu can go though
[06:15] <ikt> maybe canonical will have more support services?
[06:15] <ikt> like ubuntu one
[06:20] <sagaci> ikt: what do you mean, desktop-wise?
[06:36] <ikt> yeah
[06:36] <ikt> I don't see where else ubuntu can go DE wise
[06:39] <sagaci> there's still probably a lot of tweaks and little things to be done
[07:27] <ikt> yeah true
[07:27] <ikt> sagaci, do you have a link to the team meeting log?
[07:34] <sagaci> ikt: there wasn't an April meeting
[07:34] <ikt> oh :)
[07:34] <ikt> :( *
[07:34] <ikt> how come?
[07:38] <sagaci> everyone way busy eating chocolate
[07:53] <ikt> oh true
[10:40] <jaddi27> welcome back head_victim
[10:49] <head_victim> Evening jaddi27 
[10:49] <head_victim> Just got home from a whirlwind tour of central qld
[10:50] <jaddi27> That sounds like it should have been interesting
[10:50] <head_victim> It was, I've driven about 1000kms today
[10:51] <jaddi27> That is certainly a long day then
[10:51] <jaddi27> On wednesday I drove most of the way back from Fraser Island - that drive was not as interesting as your drive would have been
[10:57] <head_victim> I drove back from an hour west of Emerald and started around 630 in the morning
[10:57] <head_victim> After the first 8 hours I got into a bit of a trance I think
[11:00] <sagaci> the wheels on the car go round and round
[11:02] <head_victim> And if you're on qld roads they even go up and down a bit too much
[11:10] <jaddi27> head_victim, What are the general guidelines on re-applying for membership? I only got 2/4 votes at the meeting during the week, so was unsuccessful in the application
[11:10] <head_victim> I actually logged in and saw that. As long as you address the feedback provided there is no set timeline.
[11:10] <head_victim> From what I read they didn't see enough supporting documentation (testimonials)
[11:11] <jaddi27> Ok. The only feedback I got was more testimonials
[11:11] <jaddi27> yes
[11:11] <head_victim> If that was the only concern raised then once you've fixed that issue I'd reapply.
[11:11] <head_victim> I was going to suggest you ask around but I saw you already had a couple of volunteers to write some.
[11:11] <jaddi27> Ok. What are the general number of testimonials you need?
[11:12] <jaddi27> I got one from sagaci - it was just slightly too late for the meeting
[11:12] <head_victim> Enough to prove to other random members that the claims you've made in your wiki application are supported.
[11:12] <jaddi27> and benonsoftware said that he would try to do one during the week
[11:12] <head_victim> So if you're claiming to triage 100s of bugs you'd expect to see a couple of known bug team members giving testimonials.
[11:13] <jaddi27> Right. I have mainly just done translations and loco things, so the main people would be you, sagaci and benonsoftware that I know more
[11:13] <head_victim> Pretty much sounds like it.
[11:14] <jaddi27> Hopefully that will be enough
[11:14] <head_victim> I must admit if I only saw one testimonial on an applicants page I'd be a bit unsure myself.
[11:14] <jaddi27> Yes, I was about to take my name off the list for the last meeting
[11:15] <jaddi27> I can completely understand why they thought that
[11:18] <sagaci> the next A/O meeting is during UDS
[11:18] <sagaci> around 4am Oakland time
[11:18] <jaddi27> So I am guessing you won't be there sagaci?
[11:19] <jaddi27> Should I wait for another month after that?
[11:19] <sagaci> nah
[11:19] <head_victim> As long as it's written on the wiki page and "signed" (using the @SIG@ wiki command) it should be just as good as being there
[11:20] <sagaci> actually 3am
[11:20] <jaddi27> Well that's a bit better then :P
[11:21] <sagaci> sydney event in 6 days
[11:22] <jaddi27> The facebook event has been created, but it did not automatically invite all the group members,which is annoying
[11:23] <head_victim> I can tweet/dent it if no one else gets a cahnce. If anyone else has time and wants to do it go ahead. Just make sure you link to the loco.u.c event page with the details
[11:26] <head_victim> jaddi27: nice work with the lp as well
[11:27] <jaddi27> head_victim, I can tweet it if you want
[11:27] <head_victim> jaddi27: go for it, as long as it's team related and we're not sending 10 a day feel free
[11:28] <jaddi27> Ok
[11:28] <jaddi27> I will just set something up, and then tweet it
[11:28] <jaddi27> dent it, actually
[11:29] <head_victim> Yeah it's set up if you send it to the identica account it will autopopulate to the twitter one
[11:29] <head_victim> The only gotcha is identica will allow a couple extra characters in it's limit I think so don't cut it too close or it doesn't go across to twitter.
[12:06] <sagaci> chrom{e,ium} has a shocking en_AU dictionary
[12:54] <jaddi27> sagaci, time to change to firefox :)
[12:55] <sagaci> but chrome is much better is other ways
[12:55] <sagaci> and up until two days ago, I was a retired translator
[12:56] <jaddi27> i can do more tomorrow - i have an exam tomorrow, so am doing study for that instead of translations at the moment
[12:56] <jaddi27> sorry about that
[12:57] <sagaci> I'm doing them in order of priority
[12:57] <sagaci> I doubt we'll get 17,000 done in 10 days