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r4y | I want to record audio from hydrogen drum machine. What programs do I use?, I want to make an audio file to put on my mp3 player so I can drum to it and learn rhythms. | 03:55 |
holstein | r4y: you can export from H2 correct? | 04:00 |
r4y | I am trying that right now | 04:00 |
holstein | you can just fire up audacity or whatever | 04:00 |
r4y | but if I remember correctly it will be only the length of a pattern or song | 04:01 |
holstein | the pro way to do it it JACK.. just route it via JACK's virtual patchbay to ardour | 04:01 |
holstein | r4y: then, you and cut and paste that in audacity | 04:01 |
r4y | I want to record the pattern being played over and over for a minute | 04:01 |
holstein | r4y: but its just going to export the song | 04:01 |
holstein | r4y: you tell H2 what you want it to do, and it'll do it | 04:01 |
holstein | r4y: if you have the repeat button on and theres just one bar in the "song", then thats what will export... one bar | 04:02 |
holstein | r4y: feel free and ask in #opensourcemusicians | 04:02 |
r4y | OK, cool, I've used jack before, but I forgot | 04:02 |
r4y | TY for the input | 04:02 |
holstein | r4y: JACK is really overkill for what you are doing | 04:03 |
r4y | With H2 I just read there is a record button which I never noticed before. I tried it but I don't know how to retrieve any file from recording | 04:04 |
holstein | r4y: i would ask folks in #opensourcemusicians about how to use H2... or reference the manual... i usually just starting messing with the audio applications, and figure it out as i go | 04:05 |
holstein | i would just fire up H2 and give it a look, but im not near my studio rig right now | 04:05 |
r4y | Thank you again for the help | 04:05 |
r4y | It's OK. I should just keep experimenting anyways. Maybe I will learn other things along the way. | 04:06 |
r4y | I just tried recording with Audacity and it is very very quiet but it recorded | 04:10 |
holstein | r4y: congrats! | 04:10 |
holstein | just turn up the gain somewhere, if that works for you | 04:11 |
r4y | Looking | 04:11 |
holstein | or grab the one measure you have, and copy and paste it | 04:11 |
holstein | OR, fire up JACK... and ardour or qtractor... | 04:11 |
holstein | there are lots of options | 04:11 |
holstein | i would literally ask in that channel i referenced | 04:11 |
holstein | stuzz over there is quite an H2 expert | 04:11 |
holstein | i personally just play the actual drums... its easier for me | 04:12 |
holstein | stuzz or [lsd]... or anyone over there that uses H2 more than i do will be glad to help | 04:12 |
holstein | i can only say its possible by several different methods | 04:12 |
holstein | anyways... goodluck! | 04:13 |
r4y | I have a pattern I made up that is some what difficult in concept, but simple. I can play 2 parts with my right hand on the snare and the other part on the high-hat from practicing late last night. | 04:18 |
r4y | It's 3 against 4 on the off rhythms and the snare on the back beat | 04:19 |
r4y | 3 is on the on quarter notes, not the off rhythms of 3 | 04:21 |
bioterror | hmmmm... I should learn to use hydrogen | 04:22 |
bioterror | maybe | 04:22 |
bioterror | or is there a better software? | 04:22 |
r4y | For money they are better programs. | 04:26 |
r4y | I've heard of a program called Reason which sounds like real drums | 04:26 |
r4y | It is set to have different dynamics around the dynamics programmed into it which makes it sound more like a real drummer | 04:28 |
r4y | I think it requires hardware, but I am not sure. That might have been another program I was looking into which I can't remember the name of | 04:29 |
r4y | I've heard of fruit loops as well | 04:29 |
r4y | Gneutronica was the program I was thinking of, but I never tried it because from what I understand it requires hardware | 04:30 |
r4y | http://gneutronica.sourceforge.net/ | 04:32 |
r4y | I had asked someone a long time ago and that person said it requires hardware | 04:32 |
r4y | What's cool about hydrogen drum machine is it's free and I was able to find free drum samples to make my own drum set so it sounds better then the current one, as well as add drum samples from the add-on package for hydrogn drum machine on top of that | 04:34 |
r4y | OK, so Gneutronica requires a MIDI device. O well. | 04:40 |
r4y | I guess I could try out Gneutronica to see if it really requires a MIDI device in case I am wrong, because I have wondered if it does indeed require a MIDI device | 04:44 |
richardlxc | i use taskwarrior | 06:44 |
richardlxc | and how can i look the completed tasks | 06:44 |
Areckx | grub rescue> | 08:11 |
Areckx | ubuntu 12.04 | 08:12 |
Areckx | dell inspiron 1720 | 08:12 |
Areckx | entire partition | 08:12 |
Areckx | network manager wasn't installed among many other packages from usb install using unetbootin (o whatevr it's called) | 08:13 |
Areckx | so | 08:13 |
Areckx | I downloaded linux mint 9 and did the same, said missing operating system and eventually | 08:13 |
Areckx | now I can't even boot into ubuntu 12.04 | 08:14 |
Areckx | grub rescue is the only option? | 08:14 |
Areckx | or can i try another usb method? | 08:14 |
Areckx | ls | 08:14 |
Areckx | (hdo) (hdo,msdos5) (hdo,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1) | 08:15 |
Areckx | ls for any of these yields | 08:16 |
Areckx | error:unknown filesystem | 08:16 |
bobweaver | must the time you mount them then read them | 08:18 |
bobweaver | <~~knows knowings about booting usb only done it a couple of time | 08:19 |
Areckx | hmm | 08:45 |
Areckx | so I should read every document before installing? | 08:46 |
malm | er der nogle danskere herinde som kan hjælpe mig | 09:43 |
geirha | malm: #ubuntu-dk would be appropriate if you want help in danish. | 10:05 |
bioterror | !dk | 10:09 |
ubot2 | For at få dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal forefindes kun engelsksproget support. | 10:09 |
malm | bioterror er du linux newbie eller haj har brug for hjælp | 10:21 |
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r4y | holstein was it you who tried to help me with jack control? | 13:49 |
holstein | r4y: nope... i gave you several suggestions about how to get audio out of h2 | 13:49 |
r4y | I got it working | 13:49 |
r4y | Answers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1497013&page=2 | 13:50 |
r4y | and | 13:50 |
r4y | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack/+question/164955 | 13:50 |
holstein | jack control? | 13:50 |
r4y | Yes | 13:50 |
holstein | cool... yeah, its been working fine for me :) | 13:50 |
r4y | It was not working at all for me and I have used recordmydesktop, hydrogen, and jack control all at once before | 13:51 |
holstein | jack is not trivial | 13:51 |
holstein | and quite overkill for what you are trying to do anyways | 13:51 |
r4y | I don't know what the deal was, maybe this is a different install from what I was using | 13:51 |
holstein | i *love* JACK, and use it often, and suggest it as a last resort to all casual users | 13:52 |
holstein | r4y: i issue "gksudo qjackctl" as a troubleshooting step | 13:52 |
r4y | I should go and write myself a tutorial for the future to use | 13:52 |
holstein | if it runs as root, you know its a permissions issue | 13:52 |
holstein | r4y: yeah.. til you get a new piece of hardware... or a new kernel ;) | 13:52 |
r4y | I tried that though and it didn't work | 13:53 |
holstein | r4y: right, so its *not* a permissions issue | 13:53 |
holstein | thats a hardware or config issue | 13:53 |
r4y | but it said realtime was on | 13:53 |
holstein | r4y: you dont need realtime anyway | 13:53 |
holstein | and, its supposed to *not* fail for realtime support anymore | 13:53 |
holstein | as of 11.10 | 13:54 |
r4y | That must be it then. I am running 10,.04 | 13:54 |
holstein | r4y: me too | 13:54 |
holstein | still, as root, with the RT box unchecked... all should be good | 13:55 |
holstein | or is for me when i test with internal sound cards, USB, or firewire | 13:55 |
holstein | still, there will never be a JACK tutorial that will work for everyone | 13:55 |
holstein | the hardware cases are too specific | 13:55 |
r4y | Can't wait for 12 to be offical. I only stick with what they call stable and long term releases | 13:56 |
holstein | r4y: we have a live CD now.. ubuntustudio | 13:56 |
r4y | what is firewire? | 13:56 |
r4y | I tried Ubuntu Studio once and I didn't like it | 13:57 |
holstein | r4y: ubuntustudio = ubuntu | 13:57 |
holstein | r4y: firewire is an interface... kind of like USB | 13:57 |
r4y | Um, what? | 13:57 |
r4y | ubuntustudio = ubuntu? | 13:57 |
holstein | if you go to a pro studio, they will *not* be using USB, or internal sound cards | 13:57 |
holstein | r4y: its all the same repositories | 13:57 |
holstein | r4y: if you open synaptic from ubuntu 10.04, and search ubuntustudio (or kubuntu, or xubuntu for that matter) you'll see they are all the same | 13:58 |
r4y | OK, so Ubuntu Studio is not needed to get the same thing with Ubuntu alone, right? | 13:58 |
holstein | just customized a bit, and different default package sets | 13:58 |
holstein | r4y: correct.. they are *all* the same | 13:58 |
holstein | just totally different ;) | 13:58 |
holstein | if you get what i mean | 13:58 |
r4y | I remember installing the Ubuntu studio theme as well for fun on a different install | 13:59 |
holstein | regardless.. now you can download the ubuntustudio live CD.. pop it in, and use JACK and the other tools from the live CD | 13:59 |
r4y | O, so jack is on the cd?, but not ubuntu unless installed after installing? | 14:00 |
holstein | r4y: ubuntu is on all the CD's, kind of | 14:01 |
holstein | ubuntu is the community really, and the default OS | 14:01 |
holstein | r4y: you can consider ubuntu to be unity, and the "normal" default package set | 14:01 |
r4y | I mean is jack on the ubuntu cd, or only the ubuntu studio cd? | 14:01 |
holstein | r4y: we use XFCE now with ubuntustudio | 14:01 |
holstein | r4y: JACK is on the ubuntustudio live CD | 14:02 |
r4y | but not the ubuntu cd? | 14:02 |
holstein | r4y: correct | 14:02 |
r4y | That's neat | 14:02 |
holstein | makes testing hardware a lot easier | 14:02 |
r4y | Thank you for telling me. I have a hard time with English even though I am native to it and don't speak other languages. | 14:03 |
holstein | no worries... anytime! | 14:03 |
r4y | So Ubuntu Studio uses a different GUI called XFCE. Isn't that on xubuntu or something as well? | 14:04 |
holstein | r4y: xubuntu = ubuntu = ubuntu using the XFCE desktop | 14:05 |
r4y | So firewire is hardware? | 14:05 |
holstein | r4y: its an interface | 14:06 |
r4y | I should just Google it | 14:06 |
holstein | USB is not appropriate for audio, though it is getting more appropriate | 14:06 |
r4y | I thought USB was too slow for audio, so they are making how fast it works for audio better then? | 14:07 |
holstein | theres a reason why professional studios cost per/hour about as much as some of those USB interfaces cost ;) | 14:07 |
r4y | All I have that is USB slash audio is a guitar cable called Lightsnake which is cheap | 14:08 |
holstein | r4y: im told USB 3.0 will be appropriate... it also depends on your needs... i use USB for 2 channel stereo stuff all the time | 14:08 |
r4y | It took me a long time to get lightsnake to work. One of the reasons was I need to make my guitar louder for jack control | 14:09 |
holstein | yup... preamps... thats another one of those tools that cost $$ | 14:09 |
holstein | i tell project studio users all the time to go to a studio, and take a tour.. most will show you around anytime for free | 14:10 |
r4y | I mean I Googled for a year then I found IRC and found someone who told me what to do but that took me a long time so once I got it working I made a text file to know what to do in the future | 14:10 |
holstein | see what they have, ask questions.. try and emulate the workflow | 14:10 |
r4y | Actually I used my stereo as an amp because I don't have an amp or the money for an amp | 14:11 |
holstein | no reason to try and re-invent the wheel... or try and take $15 worth of gear, and fight with it trying to make something professional sounding | 14:11 |
r4y | I wasn't aiming a pro | 14:11 |
r4y | I prefer drums | 14:11 |
r4y | I just don't play guitar as well as I can play drums | 14:12 |
r4y | I like guitar, don't get me wrong | 14:12 |
holstein | recording the drums with me a similar process though.. clean signal path... decent preamp... decent mic | 14:12 |
r4y | I just wanted Lightsnake to work | 14:13 |
r4y | I haven' tried recording drums, but that would be great | 14:13 |
r4y | That's one of the reasons I use hydrogen | 14:13 |
holstein | r4y: thats a great example though... you'll *never* see a studio using one of those.. you could put that $$ toward a USB interface with decent preamps.. get a shure 57 that you can use on the drums and guitar | 14:14 |
holstein | MIDI is a great place to start, since the gear doesnt really matter as much | 14:14 |
holstein | the signal path is all digital and "in the box" | 14:14 |
r4y | shure 57 | 14:14 |
r4y | Googled | 14:14 |
holstein | r4y: thats a super cheap mic that'll do the job.. multi purpose, and not a waste of $$ | 14:15 |
r4y | TY for the help. What MIDI have you tried | 14:15 |
holstein | r4y: i used to use hardware MIDI... all kinds of stuff... ive dabbled with most of the packages in the repos and then some.. [lsd] is my go-to MIDI guy though in #opensourcemusicians | 14:16 |
holstein | he's an ubuntu user http://wootangent.net/category/linux/ ...has some nice tutorials there | 14:18 |
r4y | What are MIDI's, I mean all I know about them is that I have a P-90 keyboard that doesn't have a MIDI for it. What else are they used for in regards to drums, guitar | 14:18 |
holstein | r4y: MIDI is just an interface.. you can trigger sound with it.. you could use your guitar to trigger drum sounds for example | 14:19 |
r4y | I should have asked about how they connect to computers | 14:19 |
holstein | you can record that data and play it back, which is really a relatively small amount of data | 14:19 |
holstein | r4y: MIDI connects however you want.. you dont need a computer really, though something electronic is implied | 14:20 |
holstein | you can use the computer to record the data, and play that back, triggering an external synthesiser | 14:20 |
holstein | you can use the computer to generate the sounds "software synthesiser" or "softsynths" | 14:20 |
holstein | hydrogen is an example of a software synthesiser, as well as a drum machine | 14:21 |
r4y | So USB?, I've seen the big fat connection on my keyboard which is kind of like s-video but big and has many more connetions at the end | 14:21 |
holstein | you can connect your guitar to something in JACK like rakarrack, and have that analog sound trigger drums in hydrogen | 14:21 |
holstein | thats whats so nice about JACK.. *all* of the hardware and software is connectable | 14:21 |
holstein | though, mileage may vary | 14:21 |
r4y | I got jack and jack mixed up when I started | 14:22 |
r4y | I mean the audio jack on the back of the computer | 14:22 |
holstein | r4y: you have to google around about the keyboard you have, and see if the hardware works | 14:22 |
holstein | i typically just plug them in and look in lsusb or lspci, and try and find it in JACK anc connect and test | 14:22 |
holstein | r4y: JACK is a virtual patchbay.. if you take that tour of your local professional studio as i suggested, or google around a bit, you'll see what a patch bay is/does, and why its so important to the workflow in a pro studio | 14:23 |
r4y | What I mean is that I thought that I could connect my guitar through the jack on the back of the computer | 14:23 |
holstein | r4y: the jack on the back or your computer is crap | 14:23 |
r4y | I got jack and jack mixed up is what I meant | 14:24 |
holstein | r4y: you should put a piece of tape over it. or disable it in the bios.. or take it out | 14:24 |
holstein | r4y: thats a great way to improve the audio on you computer | 14:24 |
r4y | I use it for stereo. I guess I need a better sound card before doing what you have suggested | 14:24 |
holstein | r4y: you can experiemnt with what you got... but you should expect problems | 14:25 |
holstein | r4y: that card is made for what it is made for, and that is *not* getting your guitar into you computer | 14:25 |
holstein | r4y: im not saying its bad.. im saying its inappropriate | 14:25 |
r4y | Do you mean not being able to hear certain voicings in sounds kind of problems?, or? | 14:26 |
r4y | OK, I think I know what you mean | 14:26 |
r4y | sorry | 14:26 |
holstein | r4y: its likely a stereo input... and you have a mono jack... its 1/8 inch, and you have 1/4 inch... the impedance is incorrect | 14:26 |
holstein | the list goes on... best case, you end up hearing your guitar and a nasty buzz or hu | 14:27 |
holstein | hum* | 14:27 |
holstein | thats after going to the radio shack and picking up $15 dollars worth of adapters you'll never use for anything else | 14:27 |
r4y | Right, so if I was going to use the jack on the back of the computer which is mono then I should get a 1/4 sound card instead | 14:28 |
r4y | I mean made for it though | 14:28 |
holstein | r4y: you should decide what you need.. how many inputs... how many preamps.. | 14:28 |
holstein | my inface has 8 preamps.. and 10 channels in/out | 14:28 |
holstein | interface* | 14:28 |
holstein | you can get some nice USB interfaces with 2 preamps that are totally decent for under $100 | 14:29 |
r4y | Neat. Thank you for all the help. It's been great talking | 14:29 |
holstein | r4y: enjoy! | 14:29 |
r4y | I want to go back and read, and I need to go to bed soon. | 14:30 |
holstein | r4y: just keep in mind... $100/hour in a studio is a really good rate | 14:30 |
holstein | the idea of taking $60 or $80 and making a clean recording is a bit unrealistic | 14:30 |
holstein | $300 or so is more like it.. or just do MIDI at first with what you got | 14:30 |
r4y | I would rather do home recording. I don't care if it is pro. I get it though. Cheap is cheap. | 14:31 |
r4y | I just want to have fun. | 14:32 |
holstein | r4y: im not implying professional.. im implying clean | 14:32 |
holstein | r4y: theres nothing fun about a buzz or a hum | 14:32 |
r4y | My dream is simple for recording. | 14:32 |
holstein | the price of that lightsnake and the adapters you'd need to plug your guitar in to your inapproprate sound card would get you half way to a nice USB interface | 14:32 |
r4y | Record drumming someday and play it back and play to it to play rhythms I might not otherwise be able to as one drummer | 14:33 |
holstein | eh... try it with the internal mic on your laptop or something... im not trying to discourage you... im just saying, most folks try and emulate an actual drummer for a reason | 14:34 |
holstein | theres a point where it just gets too busy.. and drums are challening enough to mix around as-is | 14:34 |
holstein | anyways.. have fun!.. im out :) | 14:35 |
r4y | I will TY | 14:35 |
r4y | It's been fun, thank you for talking to me | 14:35 |
edlik | please help. I upgraded to 12.04 and now I can not connect using my usb wifi adapter and have no wired connection at desktop | 14:35 |
holstein | edlik: its likely you just need to reinstall the driver.. i would try searching around, or going through the same process you did in 11.10 or 10.04... try hooking it up to wired internet temporarily.. | 14:36 |
r4y | Sorry, maybe someone else here can help you. There is also the #ubuntu channel | 14:36 |
holstein | edlik: also, keep in mind 12.04 is not released yet, so you will likely be reffered to #ubuntu+1 | 14:37 |
r4y | Sorry, I didn't see your reply holstein | 14:37 |
r4y | bye :) thank you | 14:37 |
edlik | holstein: thanks, i just cant remember the steps i did before | 14:38 |
r4y | That's a lot holstein has told me. I am not sure if I completely understand all that he was saying, but I am glad I read back through what he was saying. Thank you holstein again for talking to me. | 15:11 |
r4y | I made notes and quotes of what you said. | 15:12 |
r4y | bye all :) | 15:12 |
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arbiel | hi everybody | 15:41 |
arbiel | Is there here somebody to help me concerning mounting and umounting iso files without "udoing" | 15:41 |
arbiel | in fact, without "sudoing" | 15:42 |
arbiel | The problem I experience is the following : mount records into its mtab file the target of a softlink instead of the softlink itself. "mount" mounts the file, but "umount" finds a discrepancy with mtab | 15:44 |
geirha | use the "real" path in fstab | 15:56 |
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mathewjoy | anybody can suggest a gud tut 4 wine? | 17:19 |
haqking | mathewjoy http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine | 17:33 |
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Areckx | hihi | 19:40 |
JoseeAntonioR | Hi, Areckx! | 19:40 |
edlik | please help. I upgraded to 12.04 and now I can not connect using my usb wifi, this happened last time and I cant remember how I fixed it. | 20:12 |
aveilleux | edlik | 20:40 |
aveilleux | Shoot. edlik, what did you upgrade from? | 20:40 |
edlik | eveilleux: I upgraded from 11.10 | 20:55 |
asterismo | hi people | 21:03 |
asterismo | i need help with something | 21:03 |
asterismo | i need to send an encrypted email with evolution | 21:04 |
asterismo | i have ubuntu precise pangolin | 21:04 |
asterismo | and i created a GPG key using seahorse encryption and keys application | 21:04 |
asterismo | and i published my key in ubuntu keyserver | 21:05 |
asterismo | but i think i have to import it back in the keyring for using with evolution.... right? | 21:05 |
asterismo | when i search for my name or email in seahorse, my key is not found | 21:06 |
asterismo | so when creating mail i cannot PGP encrypt it, only sign it | 21:06 |
asterismo | any help? | 21:06 |
asterismo | does anybody knows how to use GPG encryption to encrypt mails in Evolution? | 21:09 |
asterismo | anyone? | 21:21 |
philipballew | asterismo, | 21:27 |
philipballew | whats up! | 21:27 |
asterismo | <philipballew> what's up man | 21:28 |
asterismo | i'm screwed with GPG shit | 21:28 |
philipballew | does this work? | 21:28 |
philipballew | http://www.secure-my-email.com/clients_evolution.php | 21:28 |
asterismo | i got my GPG key and uploaded to keyserver | 21:28 |
asterismo | but i cannot PGP encrypt mi outgoing emails with evolution | 21:28 |
philipballew | i did that once. | 21:28 |
philipballew | dont loose it, thats what I did | 21:28 |
asterismo | but what's the diffrerence between PGP Sign and PGP Encrypt so | 21:29 |
asterismo | i can send PGP signed mails | 21:29 |
asterismo | not PGP Encrypted | 21:30 |
philipballew | not sure. I have never used evolution. I wonder if they have an irc channel as well | 21:31 |
philipballew | Discussion of Evolution (development and otherwise) takes place in #evolution on irc.gimp.org according to the website, if noone answers here that is a good option | 21:32 |
asterismo | that sucks | 21:33 |
asterismo | big time | 21:34 |
philipballew | asterismo, what sucks? | 21:35 |
philipballew | I copied that from their website | 21:35 |
philipballew | http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/ | 21:35 |
philipballew | but someone should help here eventually | 21:36 |
asterismo | there is no updated manual about setting up email encryption in evolution | 21:36 |
asterismo | that sucks big time | 21:36 |
asterismo | just google "ubuntu+evolution+GPG encryption" | 21:36 |
asterismo | all is useless | 21:36 |
asterismo | or old | 21:37 |
asterismo | or bugs | 21:37 |
asterismo | no tutorial | 21:37 |
philipballew | I wonder if the man page has anything | 21:37 |
asterismo | <philipballew> do you know the difference between sign and encrypt? i think i know | 21:39 |
asterismo | but every google post in confuse | 21:40 |
edlik1 | can anyone help me get my wireless dongle to work again after upgrade? | 21:47 |
jalcine | Signing is like its paper counterpart, it's pro thatr | 21:48 |
haqking | asterismo, sign means sign the meail digitally to prove identity of sender (non repudiation) encrypt means to encrypt the data/message and then can only be read when decrytped | 21:48 |
jalcine | *it's proof that a specific file has been authenticated by a specific key | 21:48 |
* jalcine watches haqking do his thang | 21:48 | |
haqking | ha not for long as haqking is ust about to sign off ;) | 21:48 |
haqking | as his typing is atrocious | 21:49 |
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