[01:43] brb [03:55] I want to record audio from hydrogen drum machine. What programs do I use?, I want to make an audio file to put on my mp3 player so I can drum to it and learn rhythms. [04:00] r4y: you can export from H2 correct? [04:00] I am trying that right now [04:00] you can just fire up audacity or whatever [04:01] but if I remember correctly it will be only the length of a pattern or song [04:01] the pro way to do it it JACK.. just route it via JACK's virtual patchbay to ardour [04:01] r4y: then, you and cut and paste that in audacity [04:01] I want to record the pattern being played over and over for a minute [04:01] r4y: but its just going to export the song [04:01] r4y: you tell H2 what you want it to do, and it'll do it [04:02] r4y: if you have the repeat button on and theres just one bar in the "song", then thats what will export... one bar [04:02] r4y: feel free and ask in #opensourcemusicians [04:02] OK, cool, I've used jack before, but I forgot [04:02] TY for the input [04:03] r4y: JACK is really overkill for what you are doing [04:04] With H2 I just read there is a record button which I never noticed before. I tried it but I don't know how to retrieve any file from recording [04:05] r4y: i would ask folks in #opensourcemusicians about how to use H2... or reference the manual... i usually just starting messing with the audio applications, and figure it out as i go [04:05] i would just fire up H2 and give it a look, but im not near my studio rig right now [04:05] Thank you again for the help [04:06] It's OK. I should just keep experimenting anyways. Maybe I will learn other things along the way. [04:10] I just tried recording with Audacity and it is very very quiet but it recorded [04:10] r4y: congrats! [04:11] just turn up the gain somewhere, if that works for you [04:11] Looking [04:11] or grab the one measure you have, and copy and paste it [04:11] OR, fire up JACK... and ardour or qtractor... [04:11] there are lots of options [04:11] i would literally ask in that channel i referenced [04:11] stuzz over there is quite an H2 expert [04:12] i personally just play the actual drums... its easier for me [04:12] stuzz or [lsd]... or anyone over there that uses H2 more than i do will be glad to help [04:12] i can only say its possible by several different methods [04:13] anyways... goodluck! [04:18] I have a pattern I made up that is some what difficult in concept, but simple. I can play 2 parts with my right hand on the snare and the other part on the high-hat from practicing late last night. [04:19] It's 3 against 4 on the off rhythms and the snare on the back beat [04:21] 3 is on the on quarter notes, not the off rhythms of 3 [04:22] hmmmm... I should learn to use hydrogen [04:22] maybe [04:22] or is there a better software? [04:26] For money they are better programs. [04:26] I've heard of a program called Reason which sounds like real drums [04:28] It is set to have different dynamics around the dynamics programmed into it which makes it sound more like a real drummer [04:29] I think it requires hardware, but I am not sure. That might have been another program I was looking into which I can't remember the name of [04:29] I've heard of fruit loops as well [04:30] Gneutronica was the program I was thinking of, but I never tried it because from what I understand it requires hardware [04:32] http://gneutronica.sourceforge.net/ [04:32] I had asked someone a long time ago and that person said it requires hardware [04:34] What's cool about hydrogen drum machine is it's free and I was able to find free drum samples to make my own drum set so it sounds better then the current one, as well as add drum samples from the add-on package for hydrogn drum machine on top of that [04:40] OK, so Gneutronica requires a MIDI device. O well. [04:44] I guess I could try out Gneutronica to see if it really requires a MIDI device in case I am wrong, because I have wondered if it does indeed require a MIDI device [06:44] i use taskwarrior [06:44] and how can i look the completed tasks [08:11] grub rescue> [08:12] ubuntu 12.04 [08:12] dell inspiron 1720 [08:12] entire partition [08:13] network manager wasn't installed among many other packages from usb install using unetbootin (o whatevr it's called) [08:13] so [08:13] I downloaded linux mint 9 and did the same, said missing operating system and eventually [08:14] now I can't even boot into ubuntu 12.04 [08:14] grub rescue is the only option? [08:14] or can i try another usb method? [08:14] ls [08:15] (hdo) (hdo,msdos5) (hdo,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1) [08:16] ls for any of these yields [08:16] error:unknown filesystem [08:18] must the time you mount them then read them [08:19] <~~knows knowings about booting usb only done it a couple of time [08:45] hmm [08:46] so I should read every document before installing? [09:43] er der nogle danskere herinde som kan hjælpe mig [10:05] malm: #ubuntu-dk would be appropriate if you want help in danish. [10:09] !dk [10:09] For at få dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal forefindes kun engelsksproget support. [10:21] bioterror er du linux newbie eller haj har brug for hjælp === Flow742 is now known as register === register is now known as Flow742 === sattu94 is now known as satyanash [13:49] holstein was it you who tried to help me with jack control? [13:49] r4y: nope... i gave you several suggestions about how to get audio out of h2 [13:49] I got it working [13:50] Answers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1497013&page=2 [13:50] and [13:50] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack/+question/164955 [13:50] jack control? [13:50] Yes [13:50] cool... yeah, its been working fine for me :) [13:51] It was not working at all for me and I have used recordmydesktop, hydrogen, and jack control all at once before [13:51] jack is not trivial [13:51] and quite overkill for what you are trying to do anyways [13:51] I don't know what the deal was, maybe this is a different install from what I was using [13:52] i *love* JACK, and use it often, and suggest it as a last resort to all casual users [13:52] r4y: i issue "gksudo qjackctl" as a troubleshooting step [13:52] I should go and write myself a tutorial for the future to use [13:52] if it runs as root, you know its a permissions issue [13:52] r4y: yeah.. til you get a new piece of hardware... or a new kernel ;) [13:53] I tried that though and it didn't work [13:53] r4y: right, so its *not* a permissions issue [13:53] thats a hardware or config issue [13:53] but it said realtime was on [13:53] r4y: you dont need realtime anyway [13:53] and, its supposed to *not* fail for realtime support anymore [13:54] as of 11.10 [13:54] That must be it then. I am running 10,.04 [13:54] r4y: me too [13:55] still, as root, with the RT box unchecked... all should be good [13:55] or is for me when i test with internal sound cards, USB, or firewire [13:55] still, there will never be a JACK tutorial that will work for everyone [13:55] the hardware cases are too specific [13:56] Can't wait for 12 to be offical. I only stick with what they call stable and long term releases [13:56] r4y: we have a live CD now.. ubuntustudio [13:56] what is firewire? [13:57] I tried Ubuntu Studio once and I didn't like it [13:57] r4y: ubuntustudio = ubuntu [13:57] r4y: firewire is an interface... kind of like USB [13:57] Um, what? [13:57] ubuntustudio = ubuntu? [13:57] if you go to a pro studio, they will *not* be using USB, or internal sound cards [13:57] r4y: its all the same repositories [13:58] r4y: if you open synaptic from ubuntu 10.04, and search ubuntustudio (or kubuntu, or xubuntu for that matter) you'll see they are all the same [13:58] OK, so Ubuntu Studio is not needed to get the same thing with Ubuntu alone, right? [13:58] just customized a bit, and different default package sets [13:58] r4y: correct.. they are *all* the same [13:58] just totally different ;) [13:58] if you get what i mean [13:59] I remember installing the Ubuntu studio theme as well for fun on a different install [13:59] regardless.. now you can download the ubuntustudio live CD.. pop it in, and use JACK and the other tools from the live CD [14:00] O, so jack is on the cd?, but not ubuntu unless installed after installing? [14:01] r4y: ubuntu is on all the CD's, kind of [14:01] ubuntu is the community really, and the default OS [14:01] r4y: you can consider ubuntu to be unity, and the "normal" default package set [14:01] I mean is jack on the ubuntu cd, or only the ubuntu studio cd? [14:01] r4y: we use XFCE now with ubuntustudio [14:02] r4y: JACK is on the ubuntustudio live CD [14:02] but not the ubuntu cd? [14:02] r4y: correct [14:02] That's neat [14:02] makes testing hardware a lot easier [14:03] Thank you for telling me. I have a hard time with English even though I am native to it and don't speak other languages. [14:03] no worries... anytime! [14:04] So Ubuntu Studio uses a different GUI called XFCE. Isn't that on xubuntu or something as well? [14:05] r4y: xubuntu = ubuntu = ubuntu using the XFCE desktop [14:05] So firewire is hardware? [14:06] r4y: its an interface [14:06] I should just Google it [14:06] USB is not appropriate for audio, though it is getting more appropriate [14:07] I thought USB was too slow for audio, so they are making how fast it works for audio better then? [14:07] theres a reason why professional studios cost per/hour about as much as some of those USB interfaces cost ;) [14:08] All I have that is USB slash audio is a guitar cable called Lightsnake which is cheap [14:08] r4y: im told USB 3.0 will be appropriate... it also depends on your needs... i use USB for 2 channel stereo stuff all the time [14:09] It took me a long time to get lightsnake to work. One of the reasons was I need to make my guitar louder for jack control [14:09] yup... preamps... thats another one of those tools that cost $$ [14:10] i tell project studio users all the time to go to a studio, and take a tour.. most will show you around anytime for free [14:10] I mean I Googled for a year then I found IRC and found someone who told me what to do but that took me a long time so once I got it working I made a text file to know what to do in the future [14:10] see what they have, ask questions.. try and emulate the workflow [14:11] Actually I used my stereo as an amp because I don't have an amp or the money for an amp [14:11] no reason to try and re-invent the wheel... or try and take $15 worth of gear, and fight with it trying to make something professional sounding [14:11] I wasn't aiming a pro [14:11] I prefer drums [14:12] I just don't play guitar as well as I can play drums [14:12] I like guitar, don't get me wrong [14:12] recording the drums with me a similar process though.. clean signal path... decent preamp... decent mic [14:13] I just wanted Lightsnake to work [14:13] I haven' tried recording drums, but that would be great [14:13] That's one of the reasons I use hydrogen [14:14] r4y: thats a great example though... you'll *never* see a studio using one of those.. you could put that $$ toward a USB interface with decent preamps.. get a shure 57 that you can use on the drums and guitar [14:14] MIDI is a great place to start, since the gear doesnt really matter as much [14:14] the signal path is all digital and "in the box" [14:14] shure 57 [14:14] Googled [14:15] r4y: thats a super cheap mic that'll do the job.. multi purpose, and not a waste of $$ [14:15] TY for the help. What MIDI have you tried [14:16] r4y: i used to use hardware MIDI... all kinds of stuff... ive dabbled with most of the packages in the repos and then some.. [lsd] is my go-to MIDI guy though in #opensourcemusicians [14:18] he's an ubuntu user http://wootangent.net/category/linux/ ...has some nice tutorials there [14:18] What are MIDI's, I mean all I know about them is that I have a P-90 keyboard that doesn't have a MIDI for it. What else are they used for in regards to drums, guitar [14:19] r4y: MIDI is just an interface.. you can trigger sound with it.. you could use your guitar to trigger drum sounds for example [14:19] I should have asked about how they connect to computers [14:19] you can record that data and play it back, which is really a relatively small amount of data [14:20] r4y: MIDI connects however you want.. you dont need a computer really, though something electronic is implied [14:20] you can use the computer to record the data, and play that back, triggering an external synthesiser [14:20] you can use the computer to generate the sounds "software synthesiser" or "softsynths" [14:21] hydrogen is an example of a software synthesiser, as well as a drum machine [14:21] So USB?, I've seen the big fat connection on my keyboard which is kind of like s-video but big and has many more connetions at the end [14:21] you can connect your guitar to something in JACK like rakarrack, and have that analog sound trigger drums in hydrogen [14:21] thats whats so nice about JACK.. *all* of the hardware and software is connectable [14:21] though, mileage may vary [14:22] I got jack and jack mixed up when I started [14:22] I mean the audio jack on the back of the computer [14:22] r4y: you have to google around about the keyboard you have, and see if the hardware works [14:22] i typically just plug them in and look in lsusb or lspci, and try and find it in JACK anc connect and test [14:23] r4y: JACK is a virtual patchbay.. if you take that tour of your local professional studio as i suggested, or google around a bit, you'll see what a patch bay is/does, and why its so important to the workflow in a pro studio [14:23] What I mean is that I thought that I could connect my guitar through the jack on the back of the computer [14:23] r4y: the jack on the back or your computer is crap [14:24] I got jack and jack mixed up is what I meant [14:24] r4y: you should put a piece of tape over it. or disable it in the bios.. or take it out [14:24] r4y: thats a great way to improve the audio on you computer [14:24] I use it for stereo. I guess I need a better sound card before doing what you have suggested [14:25] r4y: you can experiemnt with what you got... but you should expect problems [14:25] r4y: that card is made for what it is made for, and that is *not* getting your guitar into you computer [14:25] r4y: im not saying its bad.. im saying its inappropriate [14:26] Do you mean not being able to hear certain voicings in sounds kind of problems?, or? [14:26] OK, I think I know what you mean [14:26] sorry [14:26] r4y: its likely a stereo input... and you have a mono jack... its 1/8 inch, and you have 1/4 inch... the impedance is incorrect [14:27] the list goes on... best case, you end up hearing your guitar and a nasty buzz or hu [14:27] hum* [14:27] thats after going to the radio shack and picking up $15 dollars worth of adapters you'll never use for anything else [14:28] Right, so if I was going to use the jack on the back of the computer which is mono then I should get a 1/4 sound card instead [14:28] I mean made for it though [14:28] r4y: you should decide what you need.. how many inputs... how many preamps.. [14:28] my inface has 8 preamps.. and 10 channels in/out [14:28] interface* [14:29] you can get some nice USB interfaces with 2 preamps that are totally decent for under $100 [14:29] Neat. Thank you for all the help. It's been great talking [14:29] r4y: enjoy! [14:30] I want to go back and read, and I need to go to bed soon. [14:30] r4y: just keep in mind... $100/hour in a studio is a really good rate [14:30] the idea of taking $60 or $80 and making a clean recording is a bit unrealistic [14:30] $300 or so is more like it.. or just do MIDI at first with what you got [14:31] I would rather do home recording. I don't care if it is pro. I get it though. Cheap is cheap. [14:32] I just want to have fun. [14:32] r4y: im not implying professional.. im implying clean [14:32] r4y: theres nothing fun about a buzz or a hum [14:32] My dream is simple for recording. [14:32] the price of that lightsnake and the adapters you'd need to plug your guitar in to your inapproprate sound card would get you half way to a nice USB interface [14:33] Record drumming someday and play it back and play to it to play rhythms I might not otherwise be able to as one drummer [14:34] eh... try it with the internal mic on your laptop or something... im not trying to discourage you... im just saying, most folks try and emulate an actual drummer for a reason [14:34] theres a point where it just gets too busy.. and drums are challening enough to mix around as-is [14:35] anyways.. have fun!.. im out :) [14:35] I will TY [14:35] It's been fun, thank you for talking to me [14:35] please help. I upgraded to 12.04 and now I can not connect using my usb wifi adapter and have no wired connection at desktop [14:36] edlik: its likely you just need to reinstall the driver.. i would try searching around, or going through the same process you did in 11.10 or 10.04... try hooking it up to wired internet temporarily.. [14:36] Sorry, maybe someone else here can help you. There is also the #ubuntu channel [14:37] edlik: also, keep in mind 12.04 is not released yet, so you will likely be reffered to #ubuntu+1 [14:37] Sorry, I didn't see your reply holstein [14:37] bye :) thank you [14:38] holstein: thanks, i just cant remember the steps i did before [15:11] That's a lot holstein has told me. I am not sure if I completely understand all that he was saying, but I am glad I read back through what he was saying. Thank you holstein again for talking to me. [15:12] I made notes and quotes of what you said. [15:12] bye all :) [15:12] * Sidewinder Thinks holstein is one righteous dude! [15:41] hi everybody [15:41] Is there here somebody to help me concerning mounting and umounting iso files without "udoing" [15:42] in fact, without "sudoing" [15:44] The problem I experience is the following : mount records into its mtab file the target of a softlink instead of the softlink itself. "mount" mounts the file, but "umount" finds a discrepancy with mtab [15:56] use the "real" path in fstab === JoseeAntonioR is now known as Guest65438 === Guest65438 is now known as JoseeAntonioR [17:19] anybody can suggest a gud tut 4 wine? [17:33] mathewjoy http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine [19:40] hihi [19:40] Hi, Areckx! [20:12] please help. I upgraded to 12.04 and now I can not connect using my usb wifi, this happened last time and I cant remember how I fixed it. [20:40] edlik [20:40] Shoot. edlik, what did you upgrade from? [20:55] eveilleux: I upgraded from 11.10 [21:03] hi people [21:03] i need help with something [21:04] i need to send an encrypted email with evolution [21:04] i have ubuntu precise pangolin [21:04] and i created a GPG key using seahorse encryption and keys application [21:05] and i published my key in ubuntu keyserver [21:05] but i think i have to import it back in the keyring for using with evolution.... right? [21:06] when i search for my name or email in seahorse, my key is not found [21:06] so when creating mail i cannot PGP encrypt it, only sign it [21:06] any help? [21:09] does anybody knows how to use GPG encryption to encrypt mails in Evolution? [21:21] anyone? [21:27] asterismo, [21:27] whats up! [21:28] what's up man [21:28] i'm screwed with GPG shit [21:28] does this work? [21:28] http://www.secure-my-email.com/clients_evolution.php [21:28] i got my GPG key and uploaded to keyserver [21:28] but i cannot PGP encrypt mi outgoing emails with evolution [21:28] i did that once. [21:28] dont loose it, thats what I did [21:29] but what's the diffrerence between PGP Sign and PGP Encrypt so [21:29] i can send PGP signed mails [21:30] not PGP Encrypted [21:31] not sure. I have never used evolution. I wonder if they have an irc channel as well [21:32] Discussion of Evolution (development and otherwise) takes place in #evolution on irc.gimp.org according to the website, if noone answers here that is a good option [21:33] that sucks [21:34] big time [21:35] asterismo, what sucks? [21:35] I copied that from their website [21:35] http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/ [21:36] but someone should help here eventually [21:36] there is no updated manual about setting up email encryption in evolution [21:36] that sucks big time [21:36] just google "ubuntu+evolution+GPG encryption" [21:36] all is useless [21:37] or old [21:37] or bugs [21:37] no tutorial [21:37] I wonder if the man page has anything [21:39] do you know the difference between sign and encrypt? i think i know [21:40] but every google post in confuse [21:47] can anyone help me get my wireless dongle to work again after upgrade? [21:48] Signing is like its paper counterpart, it's pro thatr [21:48] asterismo, sign means sign the meail digitally to prove identity of sender (non repudiation) encrypt means to encrypt the data/message and then can only be read when decrytped [21:48] *it's proof that a specific file has been authenticated by a specific key [21:48] * jalcine watches haqking do his thang [21:48] ha not for long as haqking is ust about to sign off ;) [21:49] as his typing is atrocious === areckx_ is now known as Areckx