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| pellaeon | Hi, is there any guide on manually backporting packages? | 09:18 |
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| micahg | pellaeon: man backportpackage | 09:19 |
| pellaeon | thanks | 09:19 |
| pellaeon | uh, if I want to backport a package from precise to lucid, I must have precise? | 09:28 |
| micahg | pellaeon: no | 09:28 |
| pellaeon | I couldn't find backportpackage command on lucid | 09:29 |
| pellaeon | I have ubuntu-dev-tools installed | 09:29 |
| micahg | pellaeon: oh, yeah, that's only in oneiric on I think | 09:29 |
| pellaeon | So what should I do? | 09:30 |
| pellaeon | Are there other similar tools? | 09:31 |
| micahg | pellaeon: well, it just adjusts the version for you, you can use pull-lp-source to get the code and then add a revision with a lower version on top (~lucid1~ppa1) ~lucid1 would be an official backport | 09:34 |
| pellaeon | OK, I'll try that | 09:35 |
| micahg | pellaeon: which package is it? | 09:35 |
| pellaeon | ibus | 09:35 |
| micahg | have fun :) | 09:35 |
| pellaeon | Hope this is not too difficult for a newbie... | 09:36 |
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| paissad | hello guys, why do Ubuntu version always get released on thursdays ? | 12:10 |
| ockham | what's a good VM for testing Precise? | 12:19 |
| ockham | (under 11.10, that is) | 12:19 |
| ockham | ideally fast, lightweight, and no need to emulate another architecture than the host (amd64) | 12:20 |
| jtaylor | can someone see what goes wrong here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvas-server/+bug/634247 | 12:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 634247 in openvas-server (Ubuntu) "package openvas-server 2.0.3-3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:57 |
| jtaylor | apparently also opccurs in precise but I can't reproduce it | 12:57 |
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| cjwatson | ockham: kvm works well as long as you don't need 3D passthrough | 13:42 |
| cjwatson | I do nearly all my installer testing in it | 13:43 |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: and the automated daily tests of the installer are run via kvm as well | 14:12 |
| pellaeon | Hello, I was building gettext-0.18.1.1 inside pbuilder chroot, I encountered an error: | 14:30 |
| pellaeon | mkdir: cannot create directory `debian/gettext/usr/lib/': File exists | 14:30 |
| pellaeon | I am now in the shell (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Running_a_Shell_When_Build_Fails_.28Intro_to_Hook_Scripts.29) | 14:31 |
| Nafallo | hey. is it to late to upload a build1 ? | 14:31 |
| Nafallo | dovecot-antispam needs to get rebuilt against current dovecot, or it won't work. | 14:32 |
| cjwatson | Nafallo: in universe, should be ok | 14:32 |
| pellaeon | what should I do to solve this error? | 14:32 |
| Nafallo | excellent. then I'll go ahead and find my gpg key :-) | 14:32 |
| cjwatson | pellaeon: are you building a package you downloaded, or one you created yourself? which exact version on which release/ | 14:32 |
| cjwatson | ? | 14:32 |
| pellaeon | from precise http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gettext/gettext_0.18.1.1-5ubuntu3.dsc | 14:33 |
| pellaeon | My current version is lucid | 14:33 |
| cjwatson | and your aim is to produce a backport of that version to lucid? | 14:33 |
| pellaeon | yes | 14:34 |
| * cjwatson tries it in sbuild to see what's going on | 14:34 | |
| cjwatson | I mean, your next step is to debug the problem :-) | 14:34 |
| cjwatson | which is a creative task, in general | 14:34 |
| pellaeon | some hints? | 14:34 |
| cjwatson | don't have any until I've had a look | 14:34 |
| pellaeon | Ok, i'll wait, thank you! | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | debugging is far too general a subject to give general hints that are at all useful | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | I assume you've already backported git or something | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | ? | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | or are you weakening that build-dep? | 14:36 |
| pellaeon | er, it's kinda complicated, | 14:36 |
| pellaeon | I have git PPA enabled, so I now have git 1.7.10 | 14:37 |
| pellaeon | 1.7.10 meets the reqiurement of gettext | 14:37 |
| cjwatson | can you give me the URL of that PPA, to save me time following your footsteps? | 14:37 |
| pellaeon | https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ppa | 14:38 |
| pellaeon | Actually backporting gettext is just a step for me to backport ibus-1.4.1 | 14:39 |
| pellaeon | I don't know how to use sbuild yet, should I learn it? or pbuilder is just enough for my backporting work? | 14:40 |
| cjwatson | I strongly prefer it, but since you have an actual problem to solve it's probably better to solve it first | 14:41 |
| pellaeon | OK | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see, the problem is that the source has been converted to multiarch and lucid doesn't have that | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | basically you'll need to find the appropriate matching recipe in http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation and reverse the steps | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | it's a shame the source didn't have a suitable build-dependency to act as a warning there | 14:46 |
| pellaeon | Ok, thank you very much! | 14:47 |
| cjwatson | does ibus genuinely require the newer version, or is it sort of artificial? | 14:47 |
| cjwatson | I don't see the build-dependency in question - what was the trail that led you to a newer gettext? | 14:47 |
| cjwatson | it's possible that it will be easier to break the backport chain somewhere different | 14:48 |
| pellaeon | ibus-1.4.1 depends debhelper-8.13.0 depends dpkg-dev-1.16.0 depends gettext_0.18.1.1-5ubuntu3 | 14:49 |
| pellaeon | I don't really know if ibus really needed it, this is my first time | 14:49 |
| cjwatson | a build-dependency on debhelper 8.1.3 is almost certainly for multiarch | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | you don't want that in lucid anyway | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | so instead, you should reverse the Multiarch/Implementation recipe in ibus, and forget about the rest of that chain | 14:50 |
| pellaeon | So you mean I have to patch it ? | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | yes | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | the conversion was done in ibus 1.4.0-3, so you may be able to get hints from the diff between 1.4.0-2 and 1.4.0-3 | 14:51 |
| pellaeon | Thanks for the hint | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | though it might not be a simple matter of just reverting that; I expect it might be a bit tangled up | 14:51 |
| cjwatson | I guess you already know you might need to backport individual input methods as well ... | 14:53 |
| pellaeon | Thank you, I'll study the code | 14:53 |
| pellaeon | I know that | 14:53 |
| * cjwatson nods | 14:53 | |
| pellaeon | I've got much to learn | 14:53 |
| cjwatson | certainly not an easy task you've set yourself here | 14:54 |
| cjwatson | though not intractable or anything | 14:54 |
| pellaeon | Is this too difficult for a beginner? | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | depends how persistent you are :-) | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | I can probably help at some point if you get completely stuck, but would rather not take away the learning opportunity ... | 14:57 |
| pellaeon | I understand, thank you very much! | 14:58 |
| pellaeon | Bye, it's quite late here, good night | 14:59 |
| cjwatson | night | 15:00 |
| * cjwatson ceremonially burns his maverick chroots | 15:05 | |
| SpamapS | maverick was my first release | 15:07 |
| SpamapS | fare thee well brave meerkat! | 15:07 |
| cjwatson | you always remember your first? | 15:07 |
| * SpamapS also pushes it off into the hinterlands | 15:08 | |
| SpamapS | cjwatson: but does your first always remember you? :) | 15:08 |
| * Laney discovers feisty..maverick chroots | 15:09 | |
| cjwatson | a good question to which I do not honestly know the answer ;-) | 15:10 |
| jbicha | Rhonda: should wesnoth-1.8 be removed from Precise since we have wesnoth-1.10? | 15:23 |
| Nafallo | hrm. it got rejected. | 15:25 |
| Laney | Yes, do as I say! | 16:04 |
| * Laney enjoys that | 16:04 | |
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| Rhonda | jbicha: Hmm, I'm uncertain, but probably yes because precise is an LTS release. | 18:21 |
| * Rhonda . o O ( syncpackage wesnoth-1.10 ) | 18:22 | |
| Rhonda | oh, -d unstable | 18:23 |
| jbicha | Rhonda: and you're going to drop wesnoth-1.9 from Debian too, right? | 18:24 |
| Rhonda | That for sure, but that is blocked from sync anyway | 18:25 |
| ScottK | jtaylor: Accepted inspircd. If you're looking for something productive to do, I think asterisk really, really needs a merge before release. | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | ScottK: yes I did already merge it, but a user complained | 18:55 |
| jtaylor | the release in debian is supposed to be unstable | 18:55 |
| ScottK | Debian Bug 664411 has me concerned. | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 664411 in asterisk "[CVE-2012-1183 - CVE-2012-1184] Asterisk: AST-2012-002 and AST-2012-003 flaws" [Grave,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/664411 | 18:56 |
| ScottK | We should at least get those taken care of somehow. | 18:56 |
| Laney | Daviey loves asterisk | 18:56 |
| ScottK | That's true. | 18:57 |
| jtaylor | see bug 920020 | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 920020 in asterisk (Ubuntu Oneiric) "NOT FOUND answer on OPTIONS request" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920020 | 18:58 |
| jtaylor | there are patches from him for the sec issues, I'll have a look | 18:59 |
| jtaylor | ok but they contain features from later versions ... | 19:00 |
| ScottK | Not having huge security issues at release is a great feature all by itself. | 19:03 |
| ScottK | If they only way to get some of them fixed is to glom some other stuff in, then so be it. | 19:04 |
| jtaylor | I have a branch that merges asterisk if someone who actually uses it overrides paul I can upload it | 19:04 |
| jtaylor | provided an ffe is given too | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Daviey: Know any Ubuntu asterisk users? | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Get something reasonable to upload and we'll figure out the paperwork. | 19:04 |
| jtaylor | lp:~jtaylor/debian/sid/asterisk/merge-ubuntu | 19:05 |
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| verwilst | if a package has been removed from the archive, with the note NBS, what does that mean? | 19:51 |
| verwilst | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/dlm-pcmk :( | 19:51 |
| verwilst | no more distributed lock for pacemaker? | 19:51 |
| bobweaver | hello there I a quick question that I must be missing in the debian packaging guide Under depends do I have to put greater then or eq too on all packages ? here is a example of my control file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/931775/ | 22:30 |
| ScottK | bobweaver: You only have to specify a minimum version it you actually need a certain version. | 22:32 |
| Zhenech | bobweaver, you usually dont do equal | 22:32 |
| Zhenech | and then what ScottK says | 22:32 |
| bobweaver | Zhenech, so just > like bash (> 3.0) | 22:33 |
| bobweaver | off cource that is not the right version just a example | 22:33 |
| jtaylor | it must be (>> 3.0) | 22:34 |
| ScottK | Usually you use >= and specify the minimum version you need rather than > and a version less than you need. | 22:34 |
| ScottK | And jtaylor is right. >> is the proper way to specify strictly greater than. | 22:34 |
| Zhenech | please use >= minimum.version | 22:34 |
| Zhenech | and try not to include debian/ubuntu revision there unless really needed | 22:35 |
| bobweaver | I make my depends list by 1 taking a fresh copy of ubuntu server 12.04 then make clone of that in the og server run dpkg-query --list then install package on clone run same thing then grep and awk and sed come into play is this a good idea ? | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | in general no, but for some personal use maybe | 22:36 |
| bobweaver | like grep -xvF -f og.txt wdep.txt | 22:36 |
| jtaylor | what kind of a package is it? e.g. for simple native code stuff there are helpers to generate to minimal dependencies automatically | 22:37 |
| bobweaver | then that gets sent to new list and then I make list but I have been taking out the 2nd table that has versions I should leave | 22:37 |
| bobweaver | code is here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/zpanelcp/zpanelcp/files it is a control panel alternitive to Cpanel | 22:38 |
| bobweaver | jtaylor, there is that is cool . I am just starting out as you can tell. So thanks so much for that info | 22:39 |
| bobweaver | my goal is to learn how to package right (foloowing you all ) then partice partice partice and maybe one day I too could also be a ubuntu packager | 22:40 |
| bobweaver | Or at least know how to package right. IS there a mentore thing that you all do ? or a mailing list stuff that I can learn from ? | 22:42 |
| bobweaver | like the debian mentor program | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | you can always ask questions but if you want to package something its better to do it in debian | 22:44 |
| bobweaver | Wow I did not know that thanks so much ! | 22:45 |
| bobweaver | Is there a thing for ubuntu like the debian mentor program ? | 23:18 |
| ScottK | bobweaver: Mostly asking here and people will answer. There is also an ubuntu-motu list, but it's very low volume. | 23:27 |
| bobweaver | Thansk ScottK Did you join the debian mentor team 1st. I just want to kinda learn from others. if [ a <= debian mentor] then do $this else echo you should do $this1 ect | 23:31 |
| bobweaver | like should I learn to use r ? or is it just so old that it is not worth it | 23:31 |
| bobweaver | I am going to read this and make look cleaner also :) | 23:33 |
| bobweaver | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 23:33 |
| ScottK | I don't do much sponsoring in Debian. | 23:33 |
| bobweaver | Thanks ScottK | 23:33 |
| bobweaver | I would also like to say that I am sorry about my spelling as I am nonsense word dyslisic | 23:36 |
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