[11:35] hi [11:37] I am experienced abnormal high load on 12.04 beta2 when my systems are completely idle. Which package should I use to report this issue on? [11:37] experiencing [16:29] chilicui1: you've lost your cloak? [16:30] phillw: yep, connection troubles >_< [16:30] hmmm, I know that feeling. [17:48] hi [17:48] I am experiencing abnormal high load on 12.04 beta2 when my systems are completely idle. Which package should I use to report this issue on? [18:15] igadget can you be specific on what is causing the load? [18:19] kanliot, well I've been trying to find out [18:19] htop shows several processes taking very few percentage of cpu now and then [18:19] but the load of the machines is constantly between 0.5 and 1.5 [18:20] .5 %? [18:20] you can also see total cpu time [18:20] like seconds of cpu time for each process [18:20] ok... [18:21] well in that case it's unit-panel-service and compiz [18:21] ...and empathy-chat [18:21] but on the other systems I'm not using the latter [18:22] oh and hud-service as well, although less [18:22] really the devs need numbers [18:22] so how can I obtain those numbers [18:22] like empathy-chat was using 200 seconds of cpu before [18:22] ? [18:22] and now empathy-chat is using 500 seconds [18:23] so... I have to revert back to 11.10 [18:23] check the numbers there [18:23] yeah that would help [18:23] i know some people do power regression testing [18:24] like phoronix [18:24] they test the power used at idle [18:24] for the new ubuntu versions [18:24] yeah I read about those tests [18:24] so you can check their results when they come out [18:24] but still... an idle system should not have a load average between 0.5 and 1.5 [18:24] that's just absurd [18:25] %? [18:25] .5 % [18:25] ? [18:25] it's the numbers behind 'Load average:' in htop [18:25] right now on this system - 0.81, 0.82, 0.83 [18:26] I've been told that 1.0 is one cpu being used 100% [18:26] so 0.5 would equal 50% usage of 1 core, right? [18:28] yeah [18:28] actually i just read about load averages just now [18:28] full disclosure [18:29] something has to be eating your cpu [18:29] indeed... and it's present on all 3 systems I'm running 12.04 on [18:30] you can sort by cpu [18:30] cpu% you mean? [18:30] yeah [18:30] that's default, yes [18:30] f6 [18:30] and what I'm seeing there is the processes I mentioned before [18:31] and they are way below 25%? [18:31] unit-panel-service and compiz [18:31] ...and empathy-chat [18:32] and there are a few more which take 1 to 2% each [18:32] what's the highest percentage? [18:32] Is there any way to record htop's output? [18:32] and how many cores on that pc? [18:32] i donno [18:33] highest varies all the time [18:33] one moment it's compiz [18:33] then it's unit-panel-service [18:33] how much cpu time on unit-panelservice [18:33] ? [18:33] 2 cores with hyperthreading here, Core i5 [18:34] varies between 2 and 3% [18:34] sometimes higher [18:34] well i'm stumped [18:35] and that's the weird part I guess... the number don't add up [18:35] i don't think kernel times are included [18:37] I guess I can make a screencast video of htop while logged in via ssh, so the recording itself doesn't affect htop [18:37] would that help? [18:38] quit htop and load top [18:38] it shows kernel times [18:38] please [18:39] sure... so what should I look for? [18:39] ): 18.3%us, 2.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 78.4%id, 0.8%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st [18:39] look for like 40%sy [18:39] I'm not sure what those numbers mean [18:39] 1.3%sy [18:39] but load average is > 0.8 [18:40] the rest of the line? [18:40] it's changing like crazy, so it's just a snapshot [18:41] Cpu(s): 6.7%us, 2.1%sy, 0.0%ni, 91.2%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st [18:41] 2c. CPU States [18:41] The CPU states are shown in the Summary Area. They are always shown as a percentage and are for the time between now and the last refresh. [18:41] us -- User CPU time [18:41] The time the CPU has spent running users' processes that are not niced. [18:41] sy -- System CPU time [18:41] The time the CPU has spent running the kernel and its processes. [18:41] ni -- Nice CPU time [18:41] The time the CPU has spent running users' proccess that have been niced. [18:41] wa -- iowait [18:41] Amount of time the CPU has been waiting for I/O to complete. [18:41] hi -- Hardware IRQ [18:41] The amount of time the CPU has been servicing hardware interrupts. [18:41] si -- Software Interrupts [18:41] The amount of time the CPU has been servicing software interrupts. [18:41] st -- Steal Time [18:41] The amount of CPU 'stolen' from this virtual machine by the hypervisor for other tasks (such as running another virtual machine). [18:43] at 9% cpu usage i think you should have a load of 9%*4 = .36 [18:44] actually disregard what i said [18:44] i donno [18:44] I guess I will just create a screencast video and post it in a bugreport. Problem still is - what package to file the bug on? :) [18:44] i think it's a kernel problem [18:45] linux-image then [18:45] ya [18:45] good luck [18:46] thanks [18:46] and it would help if you gave hard numbers for load [18:46] and kernel versions also [19:15] well those will all be included in the video and the apport report I guess :) [19:39] kanliot, I think I found the cause of the problem [19:39] and it's not what I thought is was :) [19:40] ok [19:40] I'm using indicator-multiload as a replacement for the good 'ol gnome2 system monitor in the upper bar [19:40] but in 12.04, this indicator causes all the beforementioned processes to start consuming cpu [19:41] when I quit the indicator, the system load goes back to normal... [19:41] ...while the whole point to use the indicator was to get a sens of what the overal load of my system was like :P [19:41] yeah [19:41] pITA [19:42] so I'll be filing a bug alright... on indicator-multiload ;) [19:42] i suppose you should document it [19:42] but i donno where [19:42] :) === SaMe is now known as SergioMeneses1 === SergioMeneses1 is now known as SergioMeneses