[00:06] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N15i1bKnTA
[01:29] <jrwren> snap-l: wtf is that i love my bike?
[01:35] <jrwren> snap-l: whoa! this battlecross is pretty swete
[01:39] <jrwren> snap-l: lol, shot at magic stick
[01:40] <jrwren> snap-l: what kind of metal do you call those last two bands?
[13:24] <rick_h> morning
[13:43] <brousch> ug
[13:43] <brousch> stiff today
[13:43] <brousch> played golf at arcadia bluffs yesterday
[13:56] <rick_h> ah, good stuff
[13:56] <rick_h> was a good day to get out and about
[13:57] <snap-l> jrwren: Detroit-area. :)
[13:59] <brousch> also, responsive design is fun
[14:01] <rick_h> brousch: heh, tinkering with it for something?
[14:02] <rick_h> man, argparse is sweet
[14:02] <rick_h> the nested parsers is just awesome once you figure it out
[14:10] <rick_h> man, another new person asking about CHC on the michipug list
[14:10] <brousch> next webdev doesn't have enough speakers, so i figured i'd mess with it
[14:10] <rick_h> could we really outgrow our space in two weeks of time?
[14:10] <brousch> semantic.gs is the bizomb
[14:10] <rick_h> brousch: ah, very cool
[14:10] <rick_h> lol
[14:11] <brousch> fluid, responsive grid with no span crap in your html
[14:12] <brousch> uses scss or less
[14:12] <rick_h> either one?
[14:15] <brousch> right
[14:16] <rick_h> that's cool
[14:20] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqYdwJ-DTGo
[14:22] <rick_h> you drug pusher!
[14:22] <snap-l> Heh. :)
[14:24] <rick_h> doh, don't forget to make your default make rule not be clean_all
[14:24] <snap-l> rick_h: Ouch
[14:24] <snap-l> Yeah, default to all
[14:24] <rick_h> redownloading venv/packages since I just wiped the venv on accidnet
[14:25] <jrwren> i shall just call it shitty vocal metal then.
[14:25] <snap-l> jrwren: Could call it Deathcore
[14:25] <jrwren> ah, ok.
[14:25] <snap-l> I dunno.. people get realy tied up with the labeling of things.
[14:26] <jrwren> i listen to gothic and symphonic metal. MUCH different ;)
[14:26] <snap-l> Personally, I categorize it as "stuff I like" and "stuff I don't care for"
[14:26] <jrwren> me too, but that is orthoginal.
[14:26] <snap-l> Yep
[14:26] <snap-l> That's me, Mr. Orthagonal.
[14:27] <snap-l> Orthagonal Man Orthagonal man
[14:27] <jrwren> e.g. cradle of filfth I actually like and they are more death metal.
[14:27] <snap-l> Doing things as orthagonally as he can
[14:27] <jrwren> nice.
[14:27] <snap-l> What's it like? It's not important
[14:27] <snap-l> Orthagonal man
[14:27] <jrwren> ya know... I really can't stand modern TMBG
[14:27] <snap-l> jrwren: It's not new anymore
[14:27] <jrwren> what's not new?
[14:27] <snap-l> It's very hard to keep the novelty.
[14:27] <jrwren> oh. right.
[14:28] <jrwren> but even Lincoln is a great album IMO
[14:28] <snap-l> ++
[14:28] <jrwren> but far less novel than the one after it.
[14:28] <snap-l> Flood?
[14:28] <jrwren> but I herd john henry and it sounded so vanila and stopped listening to 'em.
[14:29] <jrwren> lol, yeah, flood, probably their most popular
[14:29] <snap-l> Apollo 18 was good
[14:29] <jrwren> ya know, i never really listened to that one. I should.
[14:29] <snap-l> And then Factory Showroom was... middling
[14:29] <jrwren> its just... things like "here ocme hte abcs" and "here come the 123s" should be great for me and my 5yr old... but I can't stand them.
[14:30] <snap-l> "I liked them before my kids did"
[14:30] <snap-l> hipster dad.
[14:30] <jrwren> um... no.
[14:30] <snap-l> ;)
[14:30] <jrwren> my kid doesn't like those 2 albums either :)
[14:30] <jrwren> she does like Why Does The Sun Shine
[14:30] <jrwren> as do I
[14:31] <snap-l> "Daddy, put on the ramones"
[14:31] <snap-l> "I don' wanna be berries in pet cemmitaries"
[14:32] <jrwren> lol
[14:32] <snap-l> s/be/eat/
[14:51] <rick_h> rst2html.py weekly_report.rst > /tmp/weekly_report.html
[15:00] <rick_h> oops
[15:41] <greg-g> rick_h: heh, I have the same thing in a script I run on taskwarrior output :)
[15:44] <rick_h> greg-g: :) well trying it out for writing wordpress posts vs raw html
[15:45] <rick_h> though the stupid newline crap drives me nuts. If I'm editing "raw html mode" don't create new breaks for me :/
[15:45] <greg-g> oh, I see, weekly_report.rst wasn't auto-generated, that was the blogpost.
[15:45]  * greg-g nods
[15:46] <rick_h> greg-g: right
[15:46] <greg-g> hah, bookie api being the cli version of bookie, I like :)
[15:46] <rick_h> yea, well it'll provide both since the cli is nothing but calls to the python api
[15:46] <greg-g> s/version/interface/
[15:46]  * greg-g nods
[15:47] <rick_h> so you can pip install that and get the cmd line tool and in your own scripts import bookie_api
[15:47] <greg-g> ohhhh, neat
[15:49] <greg-g> your "fontawesome" reminded me: what do you think of the new AWESOME project from Canonical? Taking away hits for the best window manager ;)
[15:49] <rick_h> heh, well it lacks an 'e' :)
[15:50] <rick_h> I think it's cheesy myself, but it's what was determined
[15:50] <greg-g> oh, heh, I missed that, dang autocorrect
[15:50] <greg-g> (my brain's autocorrect, that is)
[15:50] <rick_h> yea, understand...like I said...a bit cheesy
[15:51] <greg-g> :)
[17:04] <derekv> oh shit is this a tiling window manager?
[17:04] <derekv> it sure looks like it
[17:05] <derekv> I open all my windows... get gets dark and start thundering
[17:05] <derekv> windows on my house windows
[17:05] <rick_h> huh?
[17:05] <rick_h> derekv: is what a tiling WM?
[17:05] <derekv> awesome
[17:06] <derekv> installing it
[17:06] <derekv> "awesome" window manager
[17:06] <rick_h> yea, awesome is a tiling WM, some of us are tiling fans
[17:06] <rick_h> Blazeix: widox_ _stink_
[17:06] <rick_h> we're working on converting greg-g, but taking time
[17:06] <derekv> I tried really hard using something called lars wm
[17:06] <rick_h> widox_: is running xmonad and _stink_ still running the rat poison child?
[17:06] <derekv> I couldn't make it work for me but really wanted to, it was like 90% worked great
[17:06] <rick_h> 75515y9
[17:07] <rick_h> bah
[17:07] <rick_h> yea, there's a couple of trade offs
[17:07] <derekv> then some applications just refused to label their windows and dialogs correctly and lars wouldn't know where to place them
[17:07] <rick_h> but I find that the normal usage is so worht it
[17:08] <rick_h> just beware, sans any config they tend to not do much and need docs to help figure out how to do things
[17:08] <rick_h> since they're all keyboard driven, discoverability lacks
[17:08] <derekv> I remember my biggest pet peave was firefox opening dialogs and not labeling the window or resource, larswm would stick it behind firefox so it became a popunder, and I wouldn't know why firefox wasn't responding
[17:08] <derekv> but that was >10 years ago I think
[17:09] <rick_h> yea, there are still some fuglyness with that stuff since you get giant dialogs that get tiled like a full app
[17:10] <rick_h> and if it doesn't have a close button/etc you have ot use the WM commands (win-shift-c) to close it
[17:11] <derekv> yes, derek's unpublished rules of UI : don't open another window to ask the user something.  never, ever use a blocking dialog.  all windows should be fully resizeable.
[17:15] <derekv> and  someone still uses mutt I see
[17:15] <rick_h> heck yea
[17:15] <rick_h> I'm pretty much cli if I can
[17:15] <derekv> mutt is the best
[17:15] <rick_h> yea, notmuch brought me back to mutt
[17:16] <rick_h> since now I have decent fulltext search
[17:17] <derekv> my third email address migrated to gapps just recently, meaning all three of my main emails are now on gapps... meaning its past due to set up my own mail server
[17:18] <rick_h> http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/11/20/an-updated-email-config-2-offlineimap-mutt-and-dovecot-ftw/
[17:18] <derekv> Thanks
[17:18] <rick_h> not complete, but yea I pull a few different email accouts into a single imap server from one of my ec2 instances
[17:19] <rick_h> and then mutt and my phone just pull from my own dovecot server as a single combined mailbox
[17:21] <derekv> I keep toying with the idea of doing some sort of universal inbox app.  When I've looked a ...
[17:21] <derekv> holy crap lightning
[17:21] <derekv> bbl
[17:21] <rick_h> see ya
[17:24] <snap-l> Lots of lightning
[17:28] <rick_h> 533758
[17:35] <snap-l> “We’re not paying that much for black and white print outs. Give us the white ink for free.”
[18:59] <greg-g> uh oh, a blog post on offlineimap and email setup...
[18:59]  * greg-g reads
[18:59] <greg-g> oh right, that one
[22:01] <brousch> awesome. only 150 lines of scss to make this version that looks good on 1080p to 320px iphone http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/index.html
[22:04] <brousch> no divs that are used just to wrap other divs and no column/span crap in the html
[22:13] <Blazeix> wow, i love the fonts
[22:15] <brousch> heh, yeah, the artsy stuff is not my doing
[22:15] <Blazeix> actually, did that compile down to 130 lines of css?
[22:15] <brousch> just the making it a web page and responsive
[22:16] <brousch> Blazeix: looks like it
[22:16] <Blazeix> that's actually a testament to css, then :)
[22:16] <Blazeix> or sass's compiler
[22:16] <brousch> the compiler puts some }} on the same line and cut out some blank lines
[22:17] <brousch> my scss looks like pep8 python ;)
[22:18] <brousch> here ya go http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/index.html
[22:18] <brousch> blah
[22:18] <brousch> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/css/responsive.scss
[22:25] <brousch> ah, broken on IE
[22:25] <brousch> now the real fun begins
[22:28] <brousch> ie8 does not support media queries. can we just kick all IE users off the internet?
[23:01] <brousch> hah, got ie working with a couple of helper projects
[23:30] <rick_h> 362604
[23:30] <rick_h> bah
[23:32] <brousch> humbug
[23:54] <snap-l> brousch: re: kicking all IE users off of the internet: sounds like a plan to me.