[00:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N15i1bKnTA [01:29] snap-l: wtf is that i love my bike? [01:35] snap-l: whoa! this battlecross is pretty swete [01:39] snap-l: lol, shot at magic stick [01:40] snap-l: what kind of metal do you call those last two bands? [13:24] morning [13:43] ug [13:43] stiff today [13:43] played golf at arcadia bluffs yesterday [13:56] ah, good stuff [13:56] was a good day to get out and about [13:57] jrwren: Detroit-area. :) [13:59] also, responsive design is fun [14:01] brousch: heh, tinkering with it for something? [14:02] man, argparse is sweet [14:02] the nested parsers is just awesome once you figure it out [14:10] man, another new person asking about CHC on the michipug list [14:10] next webdev doesn't have enough speakers, so i figured i'd mess with it [14:10] could we really outgrow our space in two weeks of time? [14:10] semantic.gs is the bizomb [14:10] brousch: ah, very cool [14:10] lol [14:11] fluid, responsive grid with no span crap in your html [14:12] uses scss or less [14:12] either one? [14:15] right [14:16] that's cool [14:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqYdwJ-DTGo [14:22] you drug pusher! [14:22] Heh. :) [14:24] doh, don't forget to make your default make rule not be clean_all [14:24] rick_h: Ouch [14:24] Yeah, default to all [14:24] redownloading venv/packages since I just wiped the venv on accidnet [14:25] i shall just call it shitty vocal metal then. [14:25] jrwren: Could call it Deathcore [14:25] ah, ok. [14:25] I dunno.. people get realy tied up with the labeling of things. [14:26] i listen to gothic and symphonic metal. MUCH different ;) [14:26] Personally, I categorize it as "stuff I like" and "stuff I don't care for" [14:26] me too, but that is orthoginal. [14:26] Yep [14:26] That's me, Mr. Orthagonal. [14:27] Orthagonal Man Orthagonal man [14:27] e.g. cradle of filfth I actually like and they are more death metal. [14:27] Doing things as orthagonally as he can [14:27] nice. [14:27] What's it like? It's not important [14:27] Orthagonal man [14:27] ya know... I really can't stand modern TMBG [14:27] jrwren: It's not new anymore [14:27] what's not new? [14:27] It's very hard to keep the novelty. [14:27] oh. right. [14:28] but even Lincoln is a great album IMO [14:28] ++ [14:28] but far less novel than the one after it. [14:28] Flood? [14:28] but I herd john henry and it sounded so vanila and stopped listening to 'em. [14:29] lol, yeah, flood, probably their most popular [14:29] Apollo 18 was good [14:29] ya know, i never really listened to that one. I should. [14:29] And then Factory Showroom was... middling [14:29] its just... things like "here ocme hte abcs" and "here come the 123s" should be great for me and my 5yr old... but I can't stand them. [14:30] "I liked them before my kids did" [14:30] hipster dad. [14:30] um... no. [14:30] ;) [14:30] my kid doesn't like those 2 albums either :) [14:30] she does like Why Does The Sun Shine [14:30] as do I [14:31] "Daddy, put on the ramones" [14:31] "I don' wanna be berries in pet cemmitaries" [14:32] lol [14:32] s/be/eat/ [14:51] rst2html.py weekly_report.rst > /tmp/weekly_report.html [15:00] oops [15:41] rick_h: heh, I have the same thing in a script I run on taskwarrior output :) [15:44] greg-g: :) well trying it out for writing wordpress posts vs raw html [15:45] though the stupid newline crap drives me nuts. If I'm editing "raw html mode" don't create new breaks for me :/ [15:45] oh, I see, weekly_report.rst wasn't auto-generated, that was the blogpost. [15:45] * greg-g nods [15:46] greg-g: right [15:46] hah, bookie api being the cli version of bookie, I like :) [15:46] yea, well it'll provide both since the cli is nothing but calls to the python api [15:46] s/version/interface/ [15:46] * greg-g nods [15:47] so you can pip install that and get the cmd line tool and in your own scripts import bookie_api [15:47] ohhhh, neat [15:49] your "fontawesome" reminded me: what do you think of the new AWESOME project from Canonical? Taking away hits for the best window manager ;) [15:49] heh, well it lacks an 'e' :) [15:50] I think it's cheesy myself, but it's what was determined [15:50] oh, heh, I missed that, dang autocorrect [15:50] (my brain's autocorrect, that is) [15:50] yea, understand...like I said...a bit cheesy [15:51] :) [17:04] oh shit is this a tiling window manager? [17:04] it sure looks like it [17:05] I open all my windows... get gets dark and start thundering [17:05] windows on my house windows [17:05] huh? [17:05] derekv: is what a tiling WM? [17:05] awesome [17:06] installing it [17:06] "awesome" window manager [17:06] yea, awesome is a tiling WM, some of us are tiling fans [17:06] Blazeix: widox_ _stink_ [17:06] we're working on converting greg-g, but taking time [17:06] I tried really hard using something called lars wm [17:06] widox_: is running xmonad and _stink_ still running the rat poison child? [17:06] I couldn't make it work for me but really wanted to, it was like 90% worked great [17:06] 75515y9 [17:07] bah [17:07] yea, there's a couple of trade offs [17:07] then some applications just refused to label their windows and dialogs correctly and lars wouldn't know where to place them [17:07] but I find that the normal usage is so worht it [17:08] just beware, sans any config they tend to not do much and need docs to help figure out how to do things [17:08] since they're all keyboard driven, discoverability lacks [17:08] I remember my biggest pet peave was firefox opening dialogs and not labeling the window or resource, larswm would stick it behind firefox so it became a popunder, and I wouldn't know why firefox wasn't responding [17:08] but that was >10 years ago I think [17:09] yea, there are still some fuglyness with that stuff since you get giant dialogs that get tiled like a full app [17:10] and if it doesn't have a close button/etc you have ot use the WM commands (win-shift-c) to close it [17:11] yes, derek's unpublished rules of UI : don't open another window to ask the user something. never, ever use a blocking dialog. all windows should be fully resizeable. [17:15] and someone still uses mutt I see [17:15] heck yea [17:15] I'm pretty much cli if I can [17:15] mutt is the best [17:15] yea, notmuch brought me back to mutt [17:16] since now I have decent fulltext search [17:17] my third email address migrated to gapps just recently, meaning all three of my main emails are now on gapps... meaning its past due to set up my own mail server [17:18] http://blog.mitechie.com/2011/11/20/an-updated-email-config-2-offlineimap-mutt-and-dovecot-ftw/ [17:18] Thanks [17:18] not complete, but yea I pull a few different email accouts into a single imap server from one of my ec2 instances [17:19] and then mutt and my phone just pull from my own dovecot server as a single combined mailbox [17:21] I keep toying with the idea of doing some sort of universal inbox app. When I've looked a ... [17:21] holy crap lightning [17:21] bbl [17:21] see ya [17:24] Lots of lightning [17:28] 533758 [17:35] “We’re not paying that much for black and white print outs. Give us the white ink for free.” [18:59] uh oh, a blog post on offlineimap and email setup... [18:59] * greg-g reads [18:59] oh right, that one [22:01] awesome. only 150 lines of scss to make this version that looks good on 1080p to 320px iphone http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/index.html [22:04] no divs that are used just to wrap other divs and no column/span crap in the html [22:13] wow, i love the fonts [22:15] heh, yeah, the artsy stuff is not my doing [22:15] actually, did that compile down to 130 lines of css? [22:15] just the making it a web page and responsive [22:16] Blazeix: looks like it [22:16] that's actually a testament to css, then :) [22:16] or sass's compiler [22:16] the compiler puts some }} on the same line and cut out some blank lines [22:17] my scss looks like pep8 python ;) [22:18] here ya go http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/index.html [22:18] blah [22:18] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/dritharat.com/css/responsive.scss [22:25] ah, broken on IE [22:25] now the real fun begins [22:28] ie8 does not support media queries. can we just kick all IE users off the internet? [23:01] hah, got ie working with a couple of helper projects [23:30] 362604 [23:30] bah [23:32] humbug [23:54] brousch: re: kicking all IE users off of the internet: sounds like a plan to me.