[07:31] <Riddell> ug
[07:31] <Riddell> oversized CDs :(
[07:32] <Daskreech> ubergigs?
[07:32] <Riddell> not oversized yesterday
[07:32] <Riddell> what happened in the last 24 hours?
[07:33] <Daskreech> Oh the ISo not he CD ?
[07:33] <Riddell> http://paste.kde.org/457796/
[07:37] <Riddell> mm I'd love to get rid of that pointless firefox locale stuff but it's not a new thing
[07:42] <Daskreech> hi sta
[07:42] <Daskreech> hi starbuck 
[07:43] <starbuck> hello
[07:44] <Riddell> off with pt alas and no es for amd64
[07:45] <Daskreech> do we ship firefox?
[07:45] <Riddell> nope
[07:46] <Daskreech> Why are there locales then?
[07:46] <starbuck> Netrunner does :)
[07:46] <Daskreech>  what pulls them in?
[07:46] <Riddell> language-pack-base-xx does, blame dpm 
[07:46] <Daskreech> starbuck: :) Where do they find space on the cd ?
[07:46] <starbuck> dvd
[07:47] <starbuck> who does cd only these days? ;)
[07:47] <Riddell> yeah we'll drop the restriction next time, too painful indeed
[07:47] <starbuck> hi jonathan, there is a patch from Martin Graesslin for fixing the doubleclick-to-close-window, but it will be 4.9, any chance to compile package libdecorations4 with patch?
[07:48] <starbuck> for 4.8.2?
[07:48] <starbuck> http://quickgit.kde.org/index.php?p=kde-workspace.git&a=commit&h=27b667f49562963ea3f13d5b9dd56ff846feb75a
[07:48] <Daskreech> starbuck: BluRay! :)
[07:48] <Daskreech> Why choose?
[07:48] <starbuck> :)
[07:48] <Riddell> starbuck: too late for ubuntu archive proper I'm afraid, that sounds like a feature change, but I can put it in a PPA
[07:49] <Riddell> what is a strong click?
[07:49] <starbuck> yeah, ppa would be awesome just to test it...martin says it does not affect anything else, so it should "just work"TM
[07:49] <starbuck> not sure...its internal term
[07:50] <starbuck> its just so that you dont need 3 clicks to close
[07:50] <starbuck> because one opens menu, second closes menu and third closes window...
[07:51] <Riddell> do people still expect to close with a double click on the menu?  I thought that was a bit of Windows 3.0 behaviour
[07:51] <Daskreech> I still do it
[07:51] <Daskreech> But then I did install Windows 3.0
[07:52] <starbuck> hehe, yeah, i do
[07:52] <starbuck> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/18757/mysterious-blue-systems-las-s21e05/
[07:52] <starbuck> x-files music fading in
[07:52] <dpm> hi Riddell, has the kde-l10n-* upload to fix the translations happened already?
[07:54] <Riddell> starbuck: spooky!
[07:54] <Riddell> dpm: last upload "Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:17:15" is that recent enough?
[07:54] <Riddell> dpm: calligra-l10n was uploaded yesterday
[07:55] <dpm> Riddell, I believe not. We discovered the issue with the templates and fixed them on the 12th, IIRC. Let me check.
[07:57] <dpm> Riddell, yes, I can confirm that the templates were fixed on the 12th, so the kde-l10n-* upload on the 10th won't do and a new upload is needed
[07:57] <Riddell> dpm: gotcha, I'll prepare a new upload
[07:58] <Riddell> dpm: then it'll need a new language pack generation?
[07:58] <dpm> thanks Riddell
[07:58] <dpm> Riddell, yes, which will happen tomorrow
[07:59] <dpm> so the sooner the upload happens the better, as translations will take a while to import
[07:59] <Riddell> I'll do it toot sweet (after breakfast!)
[07:59] <dpm> tomorrow we'll be exporting translations from LP to be put in the final language pack
[08:00] <yurchor> Hi! For the reference, the short list (not including Calligra) of KDE templates that Kubuntu team failed to import in a right way: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/55247264/fail.ods
[08:00] <dpm> Riddell, also, bulldog98_ asked about calligra translations. I seem to remember that calligra has got its own locale packages. We also fixed the templates on the 12th. Has a calligra-l10n-* upload happened after that? If not, it also needs to be re-uploaded
[08:04] <Riddell> dpm: yes I uploaded calligra-l10n yesterday
[08:05] <dpm> Riddell, ok, cool
[08:07] <yurchor> There are also akonadi-kalarm-resource and okulargenerator-odp form kdegraphics
[08:08] <yurchor> Not imported at all (these are from kde-l10n-*).
[08:10] <Riddell> yurchor: that's surpringly few considering we haven't been generating any .pot file for all of this cycle
[08:10] <yurchor> Can these imports be suspended until the release and the stock upstream packages used to avoid confusion? Thanks.
[08:10] <Riddell> yurchor: I'm about to upload kde-l10n which will solve it
[08:11] <yurchor> Thanks. The next cycle templates will be in Universe, right?
[08:12] <yurchor> To avoid this manual handling and LP constant troubles...
[08:13] <kelemengabor> Riddell: is there anything special about the desktop-* templates of KDE? Looks like none of them was updated during the latest upload. Is this a bug or a feature?
[08:27] <dpm> argh, X crash
[08:30] <dpm> yurchor, could you put the list of templates in a pastebin somewhere? Then we can check them against:
[08:30] <dpm> - Templates that were updated and uploaded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/926643/
[08:30] <yurchor> dpm: Give me some minutes...
[08:31] <dpm> - Templates that could not be uploaded and thus needed a source package re-upload (source packages list): http://paste.ubuntu.com/926650/
[08:31] <dpm> yurchor, sure, no worries, I need to get on to something else too, will be back in a bit
[08:32] <Riddell> kelemengabor: desktop templates have been dropped, we don't strip .desktop files any more
[08:33] <kelemengabor> Riddell: okay, I'll disable them in LP Translations
[08:34] <Riddell> thanks
[08:40] <yurchor> dpm: http://pastebin.com/t7J7DY7y
[08:48] <Riddell> Darkwing: docs?
[08:50] <yurchor> Riddell: I have not looked yet, but are the Kubuntu docs even compilable? (Bug 852519 )
[08:50] <Riddell> yurchor: Darkwing is in the process of packaging them
[08:50] <dpm> yurchor, thanks for the list. I've double-checked it and it seems they all were uploaded and in good shape: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/932250/
[08:51] <yurchor> dpm: Good to know. Thanks.
[08:55] <yurchor> Can somebody mark Bug 530103 as fixed (it seeems that it is not relevant anymore)? Thanks.
[08:55] <Riddell> done
[09:47] <Riddell> dpm: new kde-l10n-* are in
[09:48] <dpm> Riddell, awesome, thanks!
[09:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I got a crash on starting kevelop :(
[09:55] <Riddell> when I moved /home/jr/.kde/share/apps/kdevelop/sessions/ out the way it started
[10:01] <ScottK> Riddell: I was playing with the seeds to try and top them off.
[10:02] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like dropping one more language pack will do it.
[10:03] <ScottK> Which looks like what you did already ...
[11:54] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:12] <Peace-> Riddell: i have downloaded a beta 2 iso , i tried to do partition manually... and .. i get a crash :)
[13:13] <Peace-> destkop version
[13:13] <Peace-> alternate version worked almost fine
[13:14] <bambee_> mhhh apparently there is a serious problem with calling javascript method from c++ in qt 4.8.1 (the javascript object is written in qml) http://paste.ubuntu.com/932491/
[13:14] <bambee_> QVariant::operator= (this=0x7fffffffc440, variant=...) at kernel/qvariant.cpp:1795
[13:15] <bambee_> this=0x7fffffffc440
[13:17] <bambee_> it worked just fine until I update to qt 4.8.1
[13:17] <bambee_> interesting...
[15:28] <soee> wrr 450 mb updates :)
[17:04] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'm trying to figure out what went wrong with the docs package...
[17:04] <Riddell> Darkwing: does it compile locally?
[17:05] <Darkwing> No. Not at this time... That's where I'm trying to find the problems that were changed from 11.10 to 12.04
[17:06] <Darkwing> Riddell: I'll have it worked out today I hope.
[17:06] <Darkwing> bbiab
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yeah, session handling is not particularly good in the 4.3 series, I've reported a crash or two on bugs.kde.org, they're still fixing that stuff, also KDevelop doesn't have any changes as such ( From the Changelog ), so I doubt the update caused the crash
[17:09] <shadeslayer> nor does kdevplatform 
[17:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hmm
[17:10] <Riddell> ScottK: if kdevelop 4.3.1 get a bit more testing do you think it can get in precise or is elsewhere better?
[17:10] <shadeslayer> At times KDevelop crashes 2-3 times in a row, offers to recover, crashes again, forgets to clean up the sessions, causing it to crash when you start it the next time
[17:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Since it's in Universe, now, I think it might still go in.  Personally, I think ktp 0.3.1 is a better thing to focus on.
[17:11] <shadeslayer> Has happened to me once or twice, cleaned up the session files and it works
[17:12] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ktp 0.3.1 is in
[17:12] <shadeslayer> Yes I know :P
[17:12] <Riddell> ScottK: ^^
[17:12] <shadeslayer> I'll work on it tomorrow ... No time today
[17:14] <swecarp> Riddell,  good work u and the other devellopers have donne on 12.04 it runs so smoth even on an old mashin
[17:14] <ScottK> Tomorrow is fine, but need it soon.
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Will be done tomorrow for sure, I just need to figure out how to not get distracted by Mass Effect 2
[17:15] <Riddell> swecarp: great :)
[17:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: work on kdevelop?  is there more to do?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Nope, I'm done, just needed testing, since you've done that, could we get it uploaded?
[17:17] <Riddell> since it broke when I test it I'd like someone else to test it :)
[17:17] <Riddell> !testers
[17:17] <Riddell> kdevelop needs testing
[17:17] <shadeslayer> probably because it crashed the last time you tested it as well :P
[17:17] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages
[17:24] <yofel> nothing paticulary broken here, but I don't use it much
[17:26] <Riddell> yofel: so no crash on startup?
[17:26] <yofel> not for me
[17:26] <yofel> my session only had one cpp file open though
[17:28] <Riddell> groovy
[17:31] <BluesKaj> isn't there a single ppa for all these rohan garg pkgs ?
[17:34] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: I'm not sure I follow
[17:34] <shadeslayer> I have 3 PPA's, one for TP, one for new stuff that's going into the archive soonish and the third is mostly extra stuff that I used to package in my free time
[17:49] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+packages
[17:50] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: yeah?
[17:50] <shadeslayer> I don't follow ....
[17:50] <BluesKaj> not sure which pkges i should try
[17:51] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: ah, install that ppa, and then install KDevelop
[17:52] <BluesKaj> anyway , no time for that right now ...I have other pressing business ...i'll get to it later
[17:52] <shadeslayer> sure
[18:27] <Peace-> let me ask something about packagin 
[18:27] <Peace-> but wtf if i my sources are present my mail and name it can be a problem ?
[18:27] <Peace-> becuase here 
[18:28] <Peace-> i have 
[18:28] <Peace-> dpkg-source: error: aborting due to unexpected upstream changes, see /tmp/kde-service-menu-vlc_0.7.0-1ubuntu~ppa1.diff.ooFpXB
[21:50] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I've been mistaken for you online, and received some of your email. :P
[21:50] <JontheEchidna> as long as I don't start getting your weird emails du jour, I'll be fine. :D
[21:51] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: not the Sierra Leane high commission's private e-mails?  those are top secret!
[21:51] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: nah, just some name suggestions for Kubuntu
[21:51] <Darkwing> hehehe. What's topping the list?
[21:51] <yofel> use firefox as default browser?
[21:52] <JontheEchidna> I forwarded the mail to jr, I think I'll let him share if he wants :P
[21:52] <Darkwing> hehehe
[21:55] <Riddell> "Quantum Entanglement" now there's a name!
[21:55] <Darkwing> LOL
[21:55] <Riddell> "KAON"  well it goes with the sub-atomic particle meme others have used
[21:55] <yofel> please not, first thing I was reminded of was a quantum of solice
[21:57] <Darkwing> K-GOAT :D
[21:58] <Darkwing> KDEs Greatest Of All Time