[01:23] <JohnBeales> Hey Guys, what's the best and/or easiest, (hopefully they're both the same), to get Lubuntu running on EC2? Ideally I don't want to have to fire up a full ubuntu install and strip everything out, unless it's super easy to do, (I'm not a linux genius, by any stretch)?
[01:23] <Unit193> !mini
[01:23] <Unit193> JohnBeales: EC2, isn't that cli so a server OS would be better? Maybe Debian or Ubuntu server?
[01:24] <JohnBeales> You would think, but I need a desktop, (I'm taking screenshots of websites), and am hoping that Lubuntu will be faster than my current full-ubuntu setup.
[01:25] <Unit193> Never done it myself, so you may be able to use lubuntu-core, but not sure that's working right now.
[01:25] <JohnBeales> In theory I could install some sort of super-minimal linux, then add window managers & stuff, but I'm looking for an easier way where I don't have to spend a week learning what's what.
[01:27] <JohnBeales> According to the minimal installation page that should work, although wouldn't I have both the lubuntu-core installed, plus unity and all that ubuntu crap?
[01:27] <JohnBeales> I'm also working on installing to a VMWare fusion virtual machine that I may be able to upload & import into EC2.
[01:28] <JohnBeales> But the thought of waiting for a whole VM to upload on DSL is making me second-guess that plan.
[01:29] <Unit193> Can't you just install directly using alternate installer?
[01:30] <Unit193> Note: I haven't touched an EC2 before ever, so I'm doing nothing better than a guess.
[01:30] <JohnBeales> I have to boot something, though. You can't get a raw system on EC2, you need to access it by SSH or some sort of remote desktop, which requires an OS
[01:31] <JohnBeales> .. which makes it tough to use an "exotic" OS
[01:31] <Unit193> Alright, so you install the bare using mini.iso, upload, then install lubuntu-desktop?
[01:33] <JohnBeales> That's what I'm hoping to do. I'll see if it works.  If not I'll have to start with Ubuntu, (which is available already in EC2), and strip it.
[01:35] <JohnBeales> I just finished my mini.iso install, and am waiting for it to reboot. Then I'll make sure I have SSH and see if I can figure out how to upload it l)
[01:36] <Unit193> !purelxde |If you have to do it the other way
[01:37] <JohnBeales> Cool, thanks.  That's the kind of docs I need.
[01:40] <Unit193> Well, hope it all works out and that I helped a little.
[01:42] <JohnBeales> Well, my install into a VM from mini.iso doesn't seem to be bootable, so I'm going to try stripping an existing ubuntu install with the link you provided.
[01:52] <Unit193> Note, it's made for Ubuntu typical, not the EC2 one. ;)
[02:16] <JohnBeales> Yeah, I'm finding that most of the packages in the cleanup instructions aren't there, but that just means that things go faster
[02:45] <JohnBeales> Since I don't have a screen, I'm using a virtual frame buffer as a screen, but I'm not sure how to start the window managers & stuff, (or even what's needed).  I'm sure there's a script somewhere that would run if a screen was attached, does anyone know where it is?
[02:46] <Unit193> The command would normally be  startlubuntu, but not fully sure that's what you're talking about.
[02:50] <JohnBeales> I'll look ;)
[02:51] <JohnBeales> Do you know where the startubuntu command is kept, so I can look at it? (I'm guessing it's a script)
[02:53] <JohnBeales> Found it, in /usr/bin
[02:55] <Unit193> Heh, welp...
[02:56] <souliaq> is true that Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS?
[02:56] <kanliot> yes true
[02:57] <souliaq> damn, but if ubuntu repositories are updated, then Lubuntu keep updated in some way, right?
[02:58] <kanliot> well 99% of updated isn't very good
[02:58] <Unit193> Core and all, just not LXDE.
[02:58] <Unit193> 99% is rather good, just not LXDE.
[02:58] <kanliot> but then people are running 10.10 and so on without too much trouble
[02:58] <souliaq> ah ok, that's good.
[02:59] <Unit193> Just not the L in Lubuntu. ;)
[03:30] <micahg> BTW, FTR, not being LTS doesn't mean that the Lubuntu team can't update packages in the LTS, but rather that there just won't be point release ISOs
[03:30] <micahg> and there's no official commitment to support for >18 months
[03:33] <Unit193> While that is helpful, the problem was very few devs.
[03:35] <micahg> right, just saying if you get more later, you can still do bug fixes that would normally qualify for SRU
[03:36] <Unit193> Thanks, though I can't help with that.
[08:47] <Gorilla_No_Baka> hello everyone..
[08:47] <NQTropic> hi all
[08:47] <NQTropic> hey Gorilla_No_Baka
[08:52] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right.. i am back
[08:52] <NQTropic> k
[08:52] <Gorilla_No_Baka> so.. i am trying to run a script and it's telling me the files does not exist.. i am on a lubuntu 12 #!/bin/bash
[08:53] <Gorilla_No_Baka> any ideas on why?
[08:54] <Gorilla_No_Baka> it gives me bash: lubuntu12: No such file or directory
[09:01] <NQTropic> apart from the obvious the file does not exist
[09:02] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> it does.. i made the script ... is right in front of me.. :)
[09:04] <NQTropic> set to executable?
[09:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> yup
[09:10] <Gorilla_No_Baka> do you think it might be because somebody decided to left out the ia32-libs?
[09:11] <NQTropic> i guess it is a bit above me, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:12] <Gorilla_No_Baka> neah.. i decided to install it anyway.. those muppets will tell me to switch over to superbloaded crappy ass ubuntu pago-whatever..
[09:19] <NQTropic> it's console stuff, they dont need to know it's lubuntu
[09:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> good point..
[09:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[09:32] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right.. Apparently there's a lot of missing libs in Lubuntu... (Even after i have instaled the  ia32-libs)
[09:33] <Gorilla_No_Baka> http://pastebin.com/ia90XwEa
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right...bash no such file or directory ...ia32-libs exist on my computer.. i tried to reinstall bash.. no joy.. Any idea?
[10:04] <Gorilla_No_Baka> anyone alive?
[10:08] <Gorilla_No_Baka> sudo apt-get install libc6-i386* lib32gcc1* lib32z1* lib32stdc++6* ia32-libs*
[11:17] <NQTropic> did I miss anything?
[12:10] <KM0201> NQTropic: looks like someone named Gorilla_No_Baka was having some ia32libs issues
[12:11] <KM0201> other than that, quiet as a churchmouse
[12:12] <NQTropic> i didn;t miss anything then, thanks KM0201 :)
[12:13] <KM0201> ;)
[12:13] <KM0201> i was asleep while that was going on
[12:13] <KM0201> my guess is, he hasn't updated a 12.04 system, because that shouldn't be an issue anymore
[13:04] <KM0201> question on the desktop pager for Lubuntu.. why can't you "set" it like Gnome.. where instead of all the workspaces being shown side by side in the panel... where you can set it to be "2x4" or "4x4" .. etc.. rather than stacked all side by side
[14:37] <bkm> hello, (on Oneric) i get The Flash plug-in was blocked because it is out of date using chromium. I have a more recent plugin, but it does not seem to work. i have followed a bunch of online recipies, but the situation does not seem to improve.
[14:38] <bkm> if i say, Run this time, it works fine, but i do not know if this has security problems
[14:42] <gordonjcp> bkm: sudo apt-get install firefox ;-)
[14:42] <gordonjcp> I put up with chromium for about a day
[14:42] <bkm> not on this poor lappy. it seems to use more resources than chromium
[14:42] <gordonjcp> it looks pretty good but it's so slow and crashy
[14:42] <gordonjcp> and the "this file may harm your computer" thing is infuriating
[14:42] <bkm> never see that!
[14:43] <bkm> i wonder if that is something i turned off...
[14:46] <gordonjcp> bkm: try downloading a PDF
[14:46] <gordonjcp> you can't turn it off, and the Chromium devs say they have no plans to make it turn-off-able
[14:46] <bkm> it works fine. you you have a specific pdf?
[14:47] <gordonjcp> just in case, y'know, *somehow* a Microsoft Windows virus that uses Adobe Acrobat Reader can somehow infect a Linux machine through Evince
[14:47] <gordonjcp> bkm: no, any PDF at all
[15:06] <smile4life-jarig> baby. :p
[18:29] <smile4ever> bye :)
[19:32] <sqrrl_> hey, i try to set the default view of pcmanfm like here: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=638 but it does not work. I created the file .config/pcmanfm/main.lxde with configuration
[19:32] <sqrrl_> any suggestions?
[19:36] <Unit193> .config/pcmanfm/lubuntu/pcmanfm.conf should be the file
[19:38] <sqrrl_> Unit193: That does not work, do i have to restart/relog?
[19:39] <Unit193> You have to restart the pcmanfm process, and that handles the desktop.
[19:39] <Unit193> So logout anbd back in.
[19:40] <sqrrl_> Ok, if i not return, it worked, thanks :)
[19:40] <wxl> there's no good way to restart pcmanfm without logging out is there?
[19:41] <Unit193> killall pcmanfm && pcmanfm --desktop -d  is as close I think.
[19:41] <wxl> ah there's the necessary switches
[19:42] <Unit193> --profile lubuntu
[19:42] <Unit193> Forgot that one too.
[19:42] <wxl> duly noted
[20:34] <NQTropic> hi all
[21:18] <mandi> I have one question...I want to try lubuntu for an old computer so I thought to ask first for the availability of drivers. I have tried ubuntu and it managed to get the drivers itself. Will lubuntu do the same ?
[21:18] <Unit193> Should as the core is the same.
[21:20] <mandi> ok, ty
[21:44] <PoaB> lubntu doesn't use lxde in 12.x - i'm surprised.. why?
[21:45] <Unit193> Lubuntu uses LXDE in 12.04.
[21:46] <PoaB> hmm then i got something wrong - thx - wired
[22:31] <civixier> hi all. I have a problem I can't seem to get a grip on. When I suspend my ux21e and start it up again the screen brightness goes back to 100%. Any ideas?
[22:39] <qwebirc444214> hello, probably a stupid question but does lubuntu use .deb and does it have the same level of support ubuntu has with drivers?
[22:40] <Unit193> Lubuntu is using the Ubuntu core system but LXDE rather than Unity/Gnome.
[22:40] <qwebirc444214> so yes? XD
[22:40] <Unit193> Should, yep.
[22:41] <qwebirc444214> :D ty
[22:43] <qwebirc444214> umm... more possibly silly questions x3  does lubuntu have a software center like ubuntu and do all the programs and codecs in that work with lubuntu?
[22:46] <Unit193> Basically should, but since some have high depends, are better off not being installed.  You can install Ubuntu software center, or in 12.04 there will be a "Lubuntu Software Center" by default.