[00:29] <asterismo> a question
[00:30] <asterismo> once i generated my GPG key, I can post it on my university webpage for others to import it and send me encrypted mail? did I understood right?
[01:43] <Aptalmagest> Anyone in here?
[01:46] <Aptalmagest> .....
[01:51] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest, theres lots of people in here
[01:52] <Aptalmagest> Wasnt quite sure
[01:52] <Aptalmagest> Its awfully quiet
[01:54] <Aptalmagest> When trying to boot a USB with Ubuntu on it, i keep getting an odd line of code. The OS will not boot.
[01:55] <Aptalmagest> SYSlinux 4.06 EDD 4.06-prel Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[01:56] <Aptalmagest> Does anyone know what it means or how i can get the USB to boot the OS properly?
[02:01] <Aptalmagest> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:09] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest,
[02:09] <philipballew_> two ideas
[02:09] <philipballew_> make sure there are no errors in the downloaded iso (that means redownload it and make a new usb)
[02:10] <philipballew_> make sure you chose the right architecture (ppc on a i5 is a no go)
[02:10] <Areckx> philipballew_::  Worked for me ('w')b
[02:11] <philipballew_> Areckx, what you talkin bout willis?
[02:11] <Aptalmagest> What do you mean the right arch?
[02:11] <Aptalmagest> You mean the build of Ubuntu?
[02:12] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest, make sure you chose 32 bit if you have a 32 bit computer
[02:12] <philipballew_> what method did you choose to make a usb?
[02:12] <philipballew_> and what version of ubuntu are you trying to run
[02:12] <Aptalmagest> I've tryed both UNETBOOTIN and Universal
[02:13] <Aptalmagest> The latest 11.10
[02:13] <philipballew_> what os are you in now?
[02:14] <Aptalmagest> Im using windows to create the USB over a Remote connection.
[02:14] <philipballew_> ?
[02:14] <Aptalmagest> I Ubuntu on my system thoough, so i can drop box files onto the computer im creating the USB on.
[02:14] <philipballew_> over a remote connection?
[02:14] <Aptalmagest> have*
[02:14] <Aptalmagest> yes
[02:14] <philipballew_> why cant you do it locally?
[02:14] <Aptalmagest> Im in Seattle, The computer im creating the USB on is in Missouri
[02:15] <philipballew_> so this is for a friend?
[02:15] <Aptalmagest> Yes
[02:15] <philipballew_> nice!
[02:15] <Aptalmagest> his Hard drive is fried, trying to make a USB that can load an OS
[02:15] <Aptalmagest> His BIOS workds
[02:15] <Aptalmagest> Works*
[02:15] <philipballew_> you could make it and mail it if all else fails
[02:16] <Aptalmagest> i dont have the patiace
[02:16] <philipballew_> id make sure he or she has the right type of computer for your iso
[02:16] <philipballew_> sounds like a personal problem
[02:16] <Aptalmagest> bit wise?
[02:16] <philipballew_> the  iso might have not downloaded right.
[02:17] <Aptalmagest> I dont see why though, if it came directly from the website
[02:17] <philipballew_> I cant tell you "this is what is wrong" there are several problems that could have happened
[02:17] <Aptalmagest> I was looking over the code from the Universal USB, And while it was making it there were several error messages.
[02:18] <Aptalmagest> All having to do with the USB being used by another program
[02:18] <Aptalmagest> There was nothing else running though
[02:18] <Aptalmagest> i thought maybe someone would know what the message that came up everytime he booted it meant.
[02:18] <philipballew_> background?
[02:20] <Aptalmagest> nothing would use it but the computer itself. its an old ass XP from 01. I've deleted everything off of it, trying to trim down its RAM usage. What would run in the background that would use it?
[02:21] <philipballew_> i dont know. I dont use windows
[02:22] <Aptalmagest> Can i use Ubuntu to create the image and then Dropbox it to the computer and copy it onto the USB?
[02:23] <joxer90x> hello, could i get a hand with the openjdk? i've installed the 7'th but i dont have the java command in the terminal
[02:25] <philipballew_> create the image?
[02:25] <philipballew_> you dont create it, you download it?
[02:27] <joxer90x> Aptalmagest, i haven't fallowed the whole conversation but it sounds like you may want to try out acronis
[02:28] <Aptalmagest> Joxer i keep getting an odd text when trying to boot from a USB Drive
[02:29] <joxer90x> not all computers support that, are you sure you made an image of the whole disk and not just the one partition? either way what  does the text say?
[02:29] <philipballew_> your weird line in what everybody gets.
[02:29] <Aptalmagest> SYSlinux 4.06 EDD 4.06-prel Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Perter Anin et al
[02:29] <philipballew_> also, ond computers dont boot with usb
[02:30] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest, you should get that
[02:30] <Aptalmagest> Get what?
[02:30] <philipballew_> *old
[02:31] <Aptalmagest> when i say image i mean all the files that are put onto the USB after extraction with the UBOOTIN tool.
[02:31] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest, that line. thats just text on the screen. your soupposed to get that
[02:31] <Aptalmagest> But what happens after that text?
[02:31] <Aptalmagest> it just sits there
[02:32] <Aptalmagest> The laptop were trying to boot on is only a few years old, it has the option in the BIOS
[02:32] <Aptalmagest> we cant enter any commands or anything
[02:33] <joxer90x> what is the size of the usb drive? the hdd you made the image from? you may want to tweak it as you spill the image
[02:33] <Aptalmagest> 16 gig
[02:33] <Aptalmagest> but only 14 gig is usuable
[02:33] <Aptalmagest> the image is from ubuntu
[02:34] <joxer90x> what size was the disk you made the image from?
[02:34] <Aptalmagest> i didnt make the image
[02:34] <Aptalmagest> downloaded it
[02:34] <Aptalmagest> I can make an image, if needed
[02:34] <joxer90x> what software are you using tho
[02:34] <Aptalmagest> The OS to make the flash drive?
[02:34] <Aptalmagest> Windows
[02:35] <Aptalmagest> o
[02:35] <joxer90x> to make the image
[02:35] <Aptalmagest> ok
[02:35] <Aptalmagest> i see what you mean
[02:35] <Aptalmagest> I've tryed two
[02:35] <Aptalmagest> UBOOTIN and Universal, the ones Ubuntu said were best.
[02:36] <joxer90x> i suggest you download a copy of hiren's boot ( a nice collection of freeware & shareware tools ) it has a copy of acronis in it, nice and handy. boot with it and make an image ( careful with the size options you chose tho, read about it on the internet im no pro with that ( altho i was.. >_> ) )
[02:37] <joxer90x> comes in a nice .iso you can burn onto a cd and boot with it
[02:37] <Aptalmagest> No go on CD
[02:37] <Aptalmagest> Has to be flash
[02:37] <joxer90x> thats an option too i believe
[02:37] <Aptalmagest> what is acronis?
[02:39] <joxer90x> its a disk/partitoin manager, from what i know its the #1 choice if your going to work with linux file systems
[02:39] <joxer90x> check out this site http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
[02:40] <Aptalmagest> do you think
[02:40] <joxer90x> experience, encountered this stuff in work..
[02:40] <joxer90x> well im gonna head over #ubuntu-beginners-team, gotta get some help with this java issue i got..
[02:41] <Aptalmagest> Running a 32 bit on a 64 bit machine would be the problem?
[02:42] <joxer90x> it shouldn't altho the performance wont be perfect..
[02:43] <Aptalmagest> k, Thanks for the help.
[02:44] <philipballew_> Aptalmagest, where did you download the ubuntu iso from?
[02:50] <Aptalmagest> The site
[02:50] <Aptalmagest> Offical
[02:50] <Aptalmagest> Im going to try the 64 bit now
[02:50] <joxer90x> gl
[02:50] <Aptalmagest> thanks
[02:50] <Aptalmagest> if it doesnt woek
[02:51] <Aptalmagest> work*
[02:51] <joxer90x> make notes man, details equal progress
[02:51] <Aptalmagest> ill try downgrading to an early version of Ubuntu
[02:52] <Aptalmagest> I've researched whats up, i think its stuck on booting.
[02:55] <Aptalmagest> http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSYSLINUX%2B4.06%2BEDD%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D681%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&twu=1&u=http://foro.elhacker.net/gnulinux/problema_al_intentar_instalar_ubuntu_1110-t347817.0.html&usg=ALkJrhgs3stzskCJepj9TmzzS9O1c44gIg
[02:55] <Aptalmagest> Thats exactly my problem!
[03:52] <deper29> hey, I am having trouble installing acroread on ubuntu 10.04. I get this for output and am not sure what to do
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 hey, can someone help me install acroread on 10.04? when I try sudo apt-get install acroread I get this for output http://pastebin.com/tdMP72Bj
 mundane: Define "janky".
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 um hackintosh if youve got this skills if not try it in a VM before you commit
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 its not a retail OS and efforts must be made to reach the status quo you may expect
 My graphics messed up, my computer got super super slower, and things just stopped working all together. I just freshly installed 10.04 no updates at all and I like it this way. I just need to update java and a couple other browser things
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 dj_segfault: it's new and the computer itself is fine but windows 7 isn't working on it so i've had to use other computers
 okie, I'm all done upgrading. ttyl, have a good night =]
 if OS X is a walk in Central Park on a perfect spring afternoon Linux is a walk in a minefield under enemy fire
 mundane you sound like a windows 8 candidate
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[03:53] <deper29> oh crap. I'm sorry
[03:53] <deper29> I don't know how I copied that. I meant this: http://pastebin.com/tdMP72Bj
[03:56] <holstein> deper29: what are you trying to do? maybe you can just use a differnt pdf viewer...
[03:56] <deper29> holstein, I am doing sudo apt-get install acroread
[03:57] <deper29> I also tried using the software centre. I need acroread because my prof uploaded terrible scanned pdfs that aren't viewed properly in office
[03:57] <holstein> deper29: sure.. but i mean, in the larger sense.. maybe if veiwing pdf's is the goal, perhaps another package would be the path of least resistance
[03:57] <holstein> are you up to date with upgrades?
[04:02] <deper29> holstein, I am up to date with my upgrades
[04:02] <deper29> what do you suggest?
[04:02] <holstein> deper29: using a different pdf viewer
[04:03] <holstein> deper29: i would open the package manager of your choice and search "pdf"
[04:03] <holstein> i think evince is a popular one
[04:04] <holstein> deper29: AFAIK, acroread is using a ppa... that ppa could be down, or *anything* could have changed about 10.04 that is just not supported anymore
[04:05] <holstein> theres always the windows version http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3156
[04:08] <holstein> seems like you can just import them to some sevices now like google docs as well
[04:08] <deper29> hmm, I will look at these
[04:08] <deper29> thanks :D
[04:26] <Ziek> Urgent help making my wireless belkin  G card work
[04:46] <holstein> Ziek: urgent? it will be easier if you are connected to wired internet
[04:47] <holstein> Ziek: if its USB, run lsusb, if not... lspci is the command... you look in that list for information about the device and you can search for support
[04:48] <holstein> hopefully, you will just be prompted when you get online... you can always try the windows drivers as well.. anyways.. good luck!
[04:48] <Ziek> holstein: I ran lsusb and it shows up on the listing
[04:48] <Ziek> its sub
[04:48] <holstein> Ziek: sub?
[04:48] <Ziek> holstein:  Belkin wireless G FSD7050
[04:48] <Ziek> usb*
[04:49] <holstein> oh.. usb.. yeah... take the line from that output and you can search for it
[04:49] <holstein> Ziek: searching by model# is not always going to work, as the chipset can be different
[04:50] <Ziek> holstein: Where would I find the chipset?
[04:50] <Ziek> holstein: listed
[07:18] <richardlxc> how to turn off the service auto ?
[07:19] <richardlxc> at the start of pc.
[08:20] <^Arhim_shantidev> Heiwa! :-)
[11:52] <q222> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1585550 Anyone have a solution for this old thread?
[11:52] <q222> Because it's still a problem after all these years and it's my primary gripe with the OS.
[12:08] <duanedesign> q222: hello
[12:08] <q222> Hey.
[12:10] <q222> Do you know the solution for my problem?
[12:12] <geirha> Ah, that's not nautilus, that's the gtk file chooser (or whatever it's called). Not really related to nautilus at all.
[12:13] <q222> How would you allow it to view icons, though?
[12:14] <q222> Without icon view it's sort of useless.
[12:14] <geirha> I don't think it can, at all. It's very primitive as far as I know.
[12:14] <duanedesign> you mean when in wordpress you are writing a post and select to insert an image into your sory
[12:15] <duanedesign> i agree w/ geirha . i jus poked around and could not find anything
[12:15] <q222> Isn't there a way to replace it with something else, anything?
[12:16] <geirha> It's not a separate program, it's part of the gtk api
[12:17] <q222> And there's no way to edit that at all?
[12:18] <geirha> You'd have to change the program in question to use some other means to select files
[12:19] <q222> How would you do that?
[12:20] <geirha> aquire years of programming experience with the programming language the program is written in, and the gtk api, and it should be easy.
[12:21] <duanedesign> you could open the folder in nautilus and search the images. then when you have on selected use the Wordpress Add Image button
[12:22] <duanedesign> i often take the images I am going to use in a particular post and put them in a seperate directory. This makes finding, and identifying them easier
[12:23] <duanedesign> <off topic> good to read geirha </off topic>
[12:24] <geirha> I haven't tried zeitgeist yet, but I've read a little about it. I think it could simplify this type of task.
[12:25] <duanedesign> i followed zeitgeist a lot when it first was being developed. i had so mant options and chances to do a lot of coll stuf
[12:26] <duanedesign> As it got popular 'politice' kind of got in the way of development and acceptance. Things seem to be improving again though. Thanks t some hard working fols on that team
[12:26] <duanedesign> *'politics'
[12:28] <duanedesign> bah, still dark here. need to turn on some light
[12:28] <geirha> I read fols as fools first ;P
[12:29] <duanedesign> hahaha
[12:29] <duanedesign> fols*
[12:29] <duanedesign> darn it
[12:29] <duanedesign> folks*
[12:29] <duanedesign> *sigh*
[12:31] <duanedesign> geirha: what distro do you run?
[12:32] <duanedesign> I am looking for Ubuntu and closely related Ubuntu distros to test my little program :)
[12:32] <geirha> Anything but Ubuntu
[12:32] <duanedesign> ohhh, no
[12:33] <geirha> Hehe, no, only Ubuntu :)
[12:33] <duanedesign> what verion?
[12:33] <geirha> LTS on my desktop, latest stable on laptop
[12:33] <duanedesign> is that 12.04
[12:34] <duanedesign> and not 10.04
[12:34] <geirha> 10.04. Still some days till 12.04, isn't it?
[12:34] <duanedesign> not sure if my application rund on 10.04
[12:36] <geirha> What's its deps?
[12:37] <duanedesign> geirha: we just removed a few so to minimize it
[12:38] <duanedesign> geirha: looks like - python-vte, python-gtk2
[12:40] <duanedesign> It is turning into a cool program. I use it a lot to build an extensive command library.
[12:40] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/~clicompanion-devs/+archive/clicompanion-nightlies
[12:40] <duanedesign> if you want the PPA
[12:40] <duanedesign> if you want a one of deb...
[12:40] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/~clicompanion-devs/+archive/clicompanion-nightlies/+files/clicompanion_1.0-6~bzr83%2Bp12~lucid1_all.deb
[12:41] <duanedesign> if you have the chance please try. it is a small onobtrusive app
[12:41] <duanedesign> we are getting close to release and need all the feedback possible
[12:44] <geirha> Hm. Depends on most
[12:45] <duanedesign> ok, thanks
[12:45] <geirha> Oh, it's a terminal emulator
[12:45] <duanedesign> took that out yesterday...will see what happened.
[12:45] <geirha> What does it use most for?
[12:47] <duanedesign> you can select a command in your 'Command Dictionaty' and select Help. this shows you the Man page. People were having touble fiquring out q was the way to get back to the Terminal
[12:47] <duanedesign> Most has that info printed at bottom of screen
[12:48] <duanedesign> but we have some up with an alternative :)
[12:48] <geirha> Ah, in that case I'd set most as a recommended package, and only use it if it's installed.
[12:48] <duanedesign> good idea
[12:50] <duanedesign> in the new version you can clicj the  < command list in the top right an it hides all the UI and it operated like a 'normal' Terminal
[12:50] <duanedesign> something I really wanted so it would feel conftorable as a dailt terminal
[12:51] <duanedesign> I created it because i was tired of maintaining Tomboy notes full of commands that I hav come across, and it was not searchable:)
[12:52] <duanedesign> the command  line fu integration is neat, That is dependant on the success of the site
[12:53] <geirha> command line fu?
[12:53] <duanedesign> geirha: if you get a chance to use it for awhile I would appreciate anf and all feedback, harsh or not
[12:54] <geirha> I'm running it through an ssh tunnel now, unthemed, so it's slow and ugly at the moment. I'll give it a proper try when I get home. :)
[12:54] <duanedesign> http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse
[12:54] <duanedesign> comman line fu is a place where poeple can submit their commanfds
[12:54] <duanedesign> and people vote on them based on importance
[12:55] <geirha> Where they can submit broken commands apparently
[12:55] <geirha> I'm seeing crazy stuff like for a in $(find ...) there
[12:56] <duanedesign> hopeful that is where users can doen vote those commands
[13:01] <geirha> as a #bash regular, I get alot of shivers from those fu commands
[13:03] <duanedesign> really...
[13:03] <duanedesign> that is god input
[13:03] <duanedesign> We have amany feature we could be working on (othet thenn tat)
[13:03] <duanedesign> if it does not add a lot value it should be dropped
[13:04] <duanedesign> Thia application has coot a lot more popular then i ever imagined
[13:04] <duanedesign> I do not want to screw it up by putting unecessary bells and whistles
[13:05] <geirha> Well, there are sane and useful commands in there, but it doesn't appear many people comment or vote, so filtering out the junk will be problematic
[22:25] <geirha> duanedesign: chown should be sudo chown; only root can change ownership.
[22:26] <geirha> duanedesign: find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs grep -F ?  will fail for filenames containing whitespace or quote characters.
[22:27] <geirha> A safe version is  grep -F ? *
[22:33] <Unit193> Well, a user can change ownership of files that user owns.
[22:49] <geirha> Unit193: No
[22:50] <geirha> A user can change group ownership, but not (user) ownership
[22:50] <Unit193> Ah, so I see.
[22:50] <Unit193> Sorry, my bad.
[22:50] <bobweaver> hello there I am looking for help in general with making a Makefile IDK if I even need to or not I am making a .deb package and am lost
[22:50] <bobweaver> I dont understand how to use the upsource in a make file
[22:51] <bobweaver> here is my code (and others) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/zpanelcp/zpanelcp/files
[22:52] <bobweaver> My question   in a video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYgwJVmn2Y
[22:54] <geirha> duanedesign: My comments on the default commands in your clicompanion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/933248/
[23:13] <duanedesign> thank  you geirha !
[23:14] <duanedesign> geirha: you know you can click the 'Hide Command' button and use CLi Companion just like an average Terminal. It strips away all the UI
[23:16] <geirha> Yeah, though I hope you remove all those colors in the final version :P
[23:16] <bobweaver> geirha,  do you know anything about making a Bash makefile or how to call to one ?
[23:17] <geirha> bash has no knowledge about makefiles
[23:17] <geirha> you use make to interpret makefiles
[23:17] <geirha> perhaps you want make -f makefile
[23:20] <geirha> duanedesign: The File and Help menus are unreadable with white text on bright green and cyan backgrounds
[23:21] <geirha> Anyway late here. I'm off to bed. Good night.
[23:25] <bobweaver> geirha,  I ahave a  installler script for a control panel I am making a .deb and here is what needs to happen http://paste.ubuntu.com/933270/
[23:25] <bobweaver> cya
[23:55] <jpdoc> Hi, I just loaded Ubuntu 12.04 on an old pc just to try it out. Very basic user but I just can't get it to work. I enter username and password. Don't know what to do next? Should I get some kind of desktop? Like with windows?
[23:58] <duanedesign> When it boot you should only be asked for pass
[23:58] <duanedesign> jpdoc: did the screen have a graphics background or was it blac?
[23:59] <jpdoc> its black,
[23:59] <duanedesign> after you enter user an pass are you dropped to a shell prompt
[23:59] <jpdoc> with ~$