[02:56] <dj_segfault> Hi.  I have a 10.04LTS Ubuntu box with mythtv-backend release-0-23-fixes.  If I upgrade to 12.04LTS when it comes out, will the upgrade take care of MythTV?  should it *Just Work* or will I have to tweak it afterwards?
[03:05] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, I would recommend against doing an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[03:05] <tgm4883> better to backup the database and fresh install 12.04
[03:06] <tgm4883> If you do decide to do the upgrade, the upgrade will take care of upgrading mythtv as well
[03:06] <tgm4883> but you may end up with a system that you need to install grub to
[03:07] <dj_segfault> Ah.  So if I do a fresh install, restore the database, then install mythtv-backend, it will figure out it needs to upgrade the database and do it?  Sweet!
[03:07] <dj_segfault> Wait, I mixed up your meaning I think.
[03:08] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, actually, first I would just upgrade to 0.25, then backup the database
[03:08] <tgm4883> !repos
[03:08] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos
[03:09] <dj_segfault> Let's say I back up everything and install 12.04LTS fresh.  How do I get my content back into mythtv?
[03:09] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, is your content on a different partition already?
[03:10] <dj_segfault> Yes.  Four different drives, actually ;)  all separate from the OS.  I have about 2TB now
[03:10] <tgm4883> ok, so you would just mount them in the same locations, then restore the database and everything should be fine
[03:11] <tgm4883> I actually just did this same thing yesterday
[03:12] <dj_segfault> tgm4883: I'm looking at that page.  I'm running ubuntu, not mythbuntu, so when that page says "simply open the Mythbuntu Control Centre, and modify the Repositories tab" I just change the software sources in System->Administration->Software Sources, right?
[03:13] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, well, you can install the mythbuntu-control-centre in Ubuntu, but yes, essentially you are just adding our 0.25 repo for lucid
[03:15] <dj_segfault> tgm4883: When you say "just mount them in the same locations, then restore the database and everything should be fine", you mean do that after the fresh install of 12.04LTS, right?  And to play it safe don't install mythtv until the database is restored and the mounts set up for the drives?  Sorry to be pedantic but one misunderstanding can lead to a pretty bad day.
[03:17] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, no worries
[03:17] <tgm4883> so the steps would be like this
[03:18] <tgm4883> 1) Take a DB backup (DB1) 2) Activate 0.25 repo 3) upgrade mythtv to 0.25 4) Take a second DB backup (DB2) 5) Install 12.04 6) Mount the storages in the same locations 7) Restore the DB (DB2)
[03:18] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, as another note, if you have any custom scripts you use (eg. channel changers) you will want to backup and restore those as well
[03:19] <dj_segfault> Excellent.  Thanks for your advice.  Doing it that way separates the risk of mythtv upgrade from the risk of the ubuntu install, which is good.
[03:19] <tgm4883> IIRC I also did a B&R of the ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt file
[03:20] <tgm4883> yep, and multiple database backup's ensure if any part of the process goes bad, you can go back
[03:20] <dj_segfault> I should be able to test .25 out before even upgrading ubuntu
[03:20] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, correct, we will continue to build 0.25 for 10.04
[03:20] <tgm4883> 10.04 will not get 0.26 though
[03:21] <dj_segfault> Yeah, i'm a bit of a backup whore.  Even though it's just my home box the databases, mail files, log files, etc get backed up a few times a day to a few times a month (depending on the file), and I do monthly offsite backups to external USB drive I keep at work.
[03:21] <tgm4883> hey nothing wrong with backups
[03:21] <dj_segfault> But there have been two occasions when I needed them and had them.
[03:25] <dj_segfault> Nice!  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-dev/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-common/view/head:/repos.db has a line "TRUNKPASS	YouMustBeThisTallToRide"
[03:25] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu-dev/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-common : contents of repos.db at revision 278
[03:25] <tgm4883> dj_segfault, yes it does
[03:30] <dj_segfault> One last concern.  looking at the description of mythbuntu-control-centre, it says "This application can also be used on a standard Ubuntu system to convert it directly to a Mythbuntu box or to add Mythbuntu role(s) in addition to the existing desktop role.'  Does that change the theme or UI in any way?
[03:33] <tgm4883> yes
[03:33] <tgm4883> it would install xfce and the mythbuntu-desktop suite
[03:33] <tgm4883> That is an option of mythbuntu-control-centre, that doesn't automatically happen when you install it
[03:35] <dj_segfault> OK, I found http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki/mythbuntu-control-centre-mcc and see that's optional.  Good.  thanks again, tgm4883
[03:35] <Zinn> [www.mythbuntu.org] Mythbuntu Control Centre (MCC) | Mythbuntu
[03:37] <tgm4883> yw
[17:29] <nysasounds> Hi all
[17:29] <nysasounds> Is anyone aware of a possible problem with mythbuntu theme and 0.25?
[17:29] <nysasounds> Seems it doesn't allow you to "Edit Schedule" under "Recording Options"  for pre-existing recording rules.
[17:29] <nysasounds> I see this in the logs:
[17:29] <nysasounds> 2012-04-16 18:29:23.891970 E [28159/28159] CoreContext mythuiutils.cpp:33 (Child) - Container 'ScheduleEditor' is missing child 'metadata'
[17:29] <nysasounds> 2012-04-16 18:29:23.891993 E [28159/28159] CoreContext scheduleeditor.cpp:140 (Create) - ScheduleEditor, theme is missing required elements
[17:30] <nysasounds> It seems the theme doesn't support the metadata editing
[17:30] <tgm4883> nysasounds, I haven't tested that, and I'm not home right now :/
[17:30] <tgm4883> gbutters, ^
[17:32] <nysasounds> No problem - just thought I'd see if anyone was aware it's a problem.  Would be a shame to ship mythbuntu on precise without full theme support :)
[17:32] <nysasounds> There's a related bug here:
[17:32] <nysasounds> http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10234
[20:25] <Patrickdk> heh, I always schedule my shows via mythweb