[00:02] <ibeardslee> yeah the version upgrade via apt-get update && apt-get  dist-upgrade
[00:02] <ibeardslee> is just asking for trouble
[00:07] <snail> trying that now
[00:12] <mwhudson> the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade is not what one thinks it would be at first
[00:12] <mwhudson> or at least, it isn't what _I_ thought it would be at first
[00:13] <snail> mwhudson: i completely agree
[00:25] <ojwb> if you mean apt-get upgrade vs apt-get dist-upgrade, it's just that the latter can remove packages isn't it?
[00:29] <ibeardslee> nope
[00:30] <ibeardslee> upgrade upgrades existing packages
[00:31] <ibeardslee> dist-upgrade "also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages
[00:31] <ibeardslee> "
[00:31] <ibeardslee> .. .. so yes I suppose it can remove packages
[00:31] <ibeardslee> but the key with dist-upgrade is that it'll also install new dependancies
[00:33] <ibeardslee> a dist-upgrade will upgrade linux-image but will also install linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic when it's time comes
[00:33] <ibeardslee> whereas an upgrade would only update linux-image
[02:44] <mwhudson> yay for wifi-related oopses
[02:45] <mwhudson> when is precise being released again? :)
[02:48] <thumper> mwhudson: very soon
[02:48] <thumper> thursday week
[02:48] <thumper> UK time
[02:48] <thumper> so Friday morning most likely
[02:48] <mwhudson> a fantastic time to find a new crash!
[02:48] <mwhudson> hopefully it's an old problem that just happens every six months or so
[02:49] <mwhudson> not a new problem in today's kernel...
[02:52] <hads> Things seem to be working okay here currently.
[19:33] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:52] <chilts> morning
[20:05] <snail> mōrena
[20:19] <Atamira> morning
[20:31] <ajmitch> morning
[20:47] <ojwb> morning