[15:50] <bazhang> so savr is ban dodging then
[15:58] <bazhang> savr, you're still in #ubuntu ?
[15:58] <bazhang> ok
[15:59] <bazhang> savr, you were asked by Jordan_U to join here to resolve you r ban
[16:01] <savr> ok
 lREDl, rm -rf /
[16:02] <savr> yup
[16:02] <savr> and the next line
[16:02] <savr> and the previous line
[16:02] <bazhang> savr, but you never joined, but just cloaked and came back into #ubuntu
[16:02] <savr> it was all in gesture
[16:02] <savr> I talked to lredl
[16:03] <bazhang> ?
[16:03] <savr> I don't know why the ban wasn't placed on my cloak
[16:03] <bazhang> you weren't cloaked at the time
[16:04] <bazhang> savr, why give such a command in #ubuntu ?
[16:04] <savr> I assumed Jordan_U removed the ban after I said I spoke to lredl
[16:04] <bazhang> no
[16:04] <savr> bazhang, he asked how to delete a file ending it with :p
[16:04] <savr> so I replied in three lines
[16:04] <bazhang> savr, please answer my question
[16:04] <savr> rm -rf /
[16:04] <savr> path/to/file
[16:04] <savr> :p
[16:05] <savr> obviously by asking such a question and ending it with :p I assumed he knows a little bit about what he is doing...
[16:07] <savr> plus I sorted it out with him in private
[16:11] <oCean> savr: are you aware that lots of others are reading the conversations in the channel?
[16:11] <savr> yes
[16:11] <oCean> not just the ones you assume "know a little bit about what they are doing"
[16:12] <savr> if they were reading my line
[16:12] <savr> they would have read the next
[16:12] <oCean> no
[16:12] <oCean> do NOT assume that
[16:12] <savr> or they wouldn't have known what it was an "answer" to
[16:12] <oCean> they see a command, they run it
[16:12] <oCean> simple as that
[16:13] <mneptok> savr: there is never a mitigating circumstance that makes that command acceptable as input to #ubuntu. full stop.
[16:13] <savr> well they are not root
[16:13] <savr> so it wouldn't work anyway
[16:14] <mneptok> savr: i suggest you put down that shovel, stop digging that hole, and just promise never to send such stuff to #u again.
[16:14] <savr> I already made such promises
[16:14] <savr> and can make them again
[16:14] <bazhang> the ban evasion doesn't help
[16:15] <savr> I've spoke to bazhang, Jordan_U, and lredl out of this channel
[16:15] <mneptok> savr: on this channel during this discussion? i see nothing contrite at all. what am i missing?
[16:15] <savr> so things look very out of context
[16:15] <bazhang> savr, you were asked to join here first
[16:15] <savr> I was not aware I was evading a ban
[16:16] <savr> and when I saw that I could rejoin I assumed that Jordan forgave me before he went to sleep
[16:16] <savr> he told me to come here because he is going to sleep
[16:17] <savr> not because I didn't make good by briefing lredl and apologising to jordan and lredl
[16:18] <bazhang> savr, Jordan_U asked me to wait here to chat with you, so no
[16:19] <savr> then sorry for the misunderstanding
[16:19] <savr> freenode should have cloaked me upon connect
[16:19] <bazhang> savr, lets be 100% clear
[16:19] <bazhang> #ubuntu is support only
[16:19] <savr> yup
[16:19] <bazhang> no jokes, etc
[16:20] <bazhang> savr, clear on that? chit chat elsewhere, #ubuntu support only
[16:21] <savr> sure
[16:21] <savr> I came in today requesting help on a bug
[16:21] <savr> only to find a long bug report
[16:21] <bazhang> savr, next time the ban will not be lifted quickly
[16:22] <savr> so my bug comment was in context of the subject
[16:22] <bazhang> savr, and you are 100% clear on the rules, so lets not have any "I misunderstood" situations
[16:22] <savr> just 30 - 100 lines disconnected from the rest of the discussion
[16:22] <savr> ok
[16:28] <bazhang> !guidelines | savr please have a read
[16:28] <bazhang> !coc | savr and this too please
[16:32] <savr> done
[16:32] <bazhang> savr, feel free to join #ubuntu , thanks for joining to resolve this
[16:32] <savr> thx
[16:35] <bazhang> a voicing system via serial port install
[16:59] <bazhang> darmok kernel 3.3.2
[16:59] <bazhang> alteregoa
[17:00] <mneptok> at Tenagra?
[17:00] <Fuchs> oh, you do know alteregoa?
[17:01] <bazhang> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
[17:01] <bazhang> oh yeah
[17:01] <bazhang> he was spamming that the other day, he's in #ubuntu+1 asking abou t that alleged kernel now
[17:01] <bazhang> banned in #ubuntu afaict
[17:01] <Fuchs> he is one of the very few perma-banned people in #ubuntu-de
[17:02] <Fuchs> for being an idiot for over 4 years
[17:02] <bazhang> yep. pretty much the same time span of idiocy in #ubuntu
[17:02] <Fuchs> good
[17:02] <Fuchs> oh, and also in #ubuntuusers
[17:03] <bazhang> they make an awesome plugin for Firefox, or did
[17:03]  * mneptok his eyes red, his fist closed
[17:03] <Fuchs> who does?
[17:03] <bazhang> ubuntuusers.de
[17:03] <Fuchs> we do?
[17:04] <bazhang> lets you search the forums really precisely, tons of other features
[17:04] <Fuchs> I am not aware of that  (note that I am a uu.de team member)
[17:04] <mneptok> Temba! his forums open!
[17:04] <Fuchs> ah
[17:04] <Fuchs> yes, there was one
[17:05] <Fuchs> which is, according to current comments, no longer maintained
[17:05] <bazhang> awww
[17:05] <mneptok> Temba. at rest.
[17:06] <mneptok> Jelad with sails unfurled.
[17:06]  * mneptok and bazhang on the oCean 
[17:35] <oCean> no way, ANOTHER rerun of 2 and 1/2 men?
[17:46] <bazhang> roelfrog just seems to be giving nonsense advice, redirecting to forums and such
[18:01]  * oCean screams
[18:02] <bazhang> I'm ready to chew gravel
[18:02] <Pici> and?
[18:02] <bazhang> he seems completely unaware of anything he's "advising"
 xichael, use a desktop to boot the livecd, have the livecd dd the iso to the usb, stick the usb in the netboot
[18:07] <bazhang> rly?
[18:08] <oCean> (please don't notice he's Dutch)
[18:09] <oCean> nvm, I AM FROM K-PAX!
[18:10] <bazhang> did I miss him asking for a netboot? if he's on a live cd where is the iso? chroot'd into something and something etc etc?
[18:10] <oCean> netboot=netbook what he meant
[18:10] <bazhang> hehe K-pax
[18:10] <bazhang> ok
[18:11] <bazhang> still where is the iso
[18:11] <oCean> lost between sever lines of nonsense
[18:11] <oCean> several*
[18:11] <bazhang> heh
[18:11] <mneptok> Shaka. when the walls fell.
[18:15] <AlanBell> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
[18:18] <bazhang> alteregoa!
[18:20] <oCean> what now?
[18:21] <bazhang> al an bell
[18:21] <bazhang> al ter egoa
[18:21] <bazhang> see the resemblance!
[18:23] <Fuchs> yes, k-line him
[18:24] <bazhang> aptana studio seems like a real kludge to install
[18:24] <bazhang> does not work with openjdk
[18:24] <bazhang> and needs xulrunner
[18:28] <oCean> gave roelforg the supportersguide, but not sure if he gets the hint
[18:28] <oCean> it's not me, it's the guy asking for help, he's vague
[18:29] <bazhang> hehe
[18:33] <oCean> bazhang, re roelforg: I'm not sure if he continues in #u, but I asked him to join here if he feels like discussing our comments instead of discussing in the channel
[18:33] <oCean> I'm off for a couple of mins
[18:33] <bazhang> oCean, Thanks!
[18:38] <bazhang> roelforg, how may we help you
[18:39] <roelforg> bazhang, i'm just watching
[18:39] <bazhang> roelforg, something you wished to discuss?
[18:40] <roelforg> bazhang, i'm just watching
[18:41] <roelforg> bazhang, while your here. I was told you wanted to say something to me?
[18:42] <bazhang> roelforg, you were asked to join here if you wished to discuss issues related to your support in #ubuntu rather than in the channel itself, was my understanding
[18:43] <roelforg> Someone pm'd me and said that if you or (user that i'll keep anonymous) are trying to point something out to me, i was to check here,
[18:43] <roelforg> So i thought you were trying to do so.
[18:44] <bazhang> roelforg, you seem to be giving out advice that was overly complex, to the wrong users entirely, or just re-directing people to the ubuntu forums
[18:46] <roelforg> This is why i don't use IRC a lot, people always get angry at me. I'll just leave you alone.
[19:03] <oCean> Oh boy
[19:05] <oCean> had similar reaction in pm