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[01:36] <uvirtbot> New bug: #982704 in samba (main) "package samba-common-bin 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982704
[01:56] <ChmEarl> lsb-release for precise still says devel branch?
[04:05] <uvirtbot> New bug: #982739 in ubuntu (main) "package winbind 2:3.6.3-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982739
[04:14] <ruben23> guys i have an directory with files agc now some updated came to some files on another server ubuntu..how do i copy only the updated one on teh same folder..? just add the update not copy whole again
[04:15] <ruben23> same direcotry name agc but the pther one si more updated
[04:42] <twb> ruben23: I didn't understand your question.
[04:42] <twb> ruben23: but I guess you want rsync, or something else that uses the rsync algorithm (e.g. unison).
[08:11] <uvirtbot> New bug: #982787 in glance "glance-registry start report error" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982787
[08:25] <lynxman> morning o/
[08:31] <koolhead17> hi lynxman
[08:31] <lynxman> koolhead17: hello!
[08:32] <koolhead17> lynxman, how are things? are u attending ODS
[08:36] <lynxman> koolhead17: won't be at ODS this time :)
[08:37] <koolhead17> lynxman, always next time. :) But you will be at UDS siir!!
[09:36] <uvirtbot> New bug: #982917 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.9.1-2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982917
[11:31] <uvirtbot> New bug: #982984 in unixodbc (main) "package unixodbc 2.2.14p2-5ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982984
[11:36] <Atlantic777> Hey, any problems with installing ubuntu server from flash prepared with unetbootin?
[11:37] <Atlantic777> I always get error msg that there's no a valid ubuntu cd-rom.
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[13:51] <PedroGomes> Hi, did anyone here tried to install 2 different versions of Ubuntu in the same disc trough PXE/preseed?
[13:52] <PedroGomes> I'm tired of searching/trying preseed templates with no success
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[14:13] <hallyn> stgraber: now, bc lxc is seeded it's subject to final freeze right?  we have to wait for q for patches even though it's in universe?
[14:15] <stgraber> hallyn: it's affected by final freeze yes, doesn't meant we won't let it in though. If we (as in ubuntu-release / edubuntu-dev) consider the changes as being low-risk and useful to have in the released media, your package may well be accepted
[14:25] <hallyn> stgraber: hm, ok.  the ubuntu-cloud change seems worth trying.
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[14:36] <WuxiIxuw> Hello
[14:37] <WuxiIxuw> Please I'd like to know how exactly to secure the VPS using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[14:40] <WuxiIxuw> please where can I find a guide in the website
[14:40] <WuxiIxuw> it is a vps server
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[15:23] <hallyn> hm, redefining a defined domain with 'virsh define' doesn't raise an error.  did it use to?
[15:24] <hallyn> and now it does.  maybe it's in my head
[15:25] <hallyn> oh, I think it acts differently if you specify a uuid
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[16:04] <barduck> does anyone have any pointers about moving a software RAID array + LVM to a new Ubuntu install (OS on separate disk) ?
[16:08] <konradb> hi is it possible to restore /usr/share/locale? :x
[16:15] <henkjan> bah, missing iso-8859-1 locales on new server installs :(
[16:17]  * ogra_ doesnt think ubuntu ever used iso-8859-1
[16:17] <henkjan> but they could be generated
[16:18] <ogra_> sure, just generate them with locale-gen
[16:18] <henkjan> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man3/setlocale.3.html
[16:18] <henkjan> Linux  (that  is, glibc) supports the portable locales "C" and "POSIX". In the good old days there used to be support for the European  Latin-1 "ISO-8859-1"  locale  (e.g.,  in  libc-4.5.21 and libc-4.6.27), and the Russian  "KOI-8"  (more   precisely,   "koi-8r")   locale   (e.g.,   in libc-4.6.27),     so    that    having    an    environment    variable
[16:18] <henkjan>  LC_CTYPE=IS-8859-1  sufficed  to  make  ispIrint(3)  return  the  right answer.   These  days non-English speaking Europeans have to work a bit harder, and must install actual locale files.
[16:19] <ogra_> no
[16:19] <ogra_> locale-gen de_DE.iso-8859-1
[16:19] <ogra_> that will generate german locales
[16:19] <ogra_> with the awful iso set
[16:20] <ogra_> any reason to live in teh past and not use utf-8 ?
[16:21] <henkjan> customer scripts interfacing with an oracle-db
[16:21] <henkjan> and data in that locale
[16:21] <ogra_> and oracle is 20 years behind still ?
[16:21] <ogra_> oh my
[16:21] <henkjan> history data i suppose
[16:38] <hallyn> lifeless: hey, just curious, were you just playing with lxc-execute, or do you plan to use it?
[16:38] <hallyn> because lxc-execute doesn't quite do what i think most ppl think it does, and it's fragile, so i like to advise against it when i can :)
[16:39] <hallyn> ust yours
[16:39] <hallyn> (prepend j, append to a sentence i pasted in another chan :)
[16:48] <desperado> hey
[16:48] <desperado> is anybody available to give some help
[16:48] <desperado> ?
[16:49] <desperado> I`m trying to setup a new ubuntu server which my run a virtualized windowsXP
[16:49] <desperado> using KVM with LVM
[16:49] <desperado> but I got some issues on windows installer
[16:50] <desperado> also, is there a good idea to virtualize another ubuntu with services (LAMP/ samba)?
[16:57] <lifeless> hallyn: I have/had a crazy idea about distributed builds that needs to run stuff on an isolated fs but can share most everything else
[17:01] <jcastro> robbiew: can you accept this bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-servercloud-q-mysql-utilities
[17:01] <jcastro> I'd like to get all the mysql content on the schedule asap and not moving around
[17:01] <robbiew> jcastro: I could...but arosales should ;)
[17:02] <jcastro> robbiew: oh, I see
[17:02] <jcastro> arosales: ^^^
[17:02] <robbiew> jcastro: unless he doesn't have the power to
[17:02] <robbiew> (and he should)
[17:02] <jcastro> he should
[17:02] <robbiew> arosales: to accept, click on the link under "Sprints" next to uds-q
[17:03] <robbiew> jcastro: screw it...I'll do it
[17:03] <jcastro> I can wait!
[17:04] <robbiew> jcastro: meh...done
[17:04] <jcastro> heh
[17:04] <robbiew> jcastro: I need to properly walk arosales through the blueprint stuff anyway...but that can wait next week
[17:04]  * jcastro nods.
[17:04]  * robbiew is hell bent on dumping that joy on arosales and Daviey ;)
[17:05] <jcastro> we just need to doublecheck that all MySQL important things are on Tuesday
[17:05] <jcastro> that's like the magic day everyone will be there
[17:05] <robbiew> that's also the Ubuntu Cloud day...ugh
[17:05]  * robbiew is glad he leaves Tuesday night
[17:05]  * desperado is desperated
[17:06] <desperado> jcastro robbiew do any of you know something about virtualization on ubuntu server?
[17:06] <jcastro> I know we have it
[17:07] <desperado> yeah, but I got some issues and doubts =/
[17:07] <resno> can anyone recommend some monitoring tools?
[17:07] <jcastro> desperado: a good portion of the team is travelling, and everyone will be gone to UDS soon so you might want to punt to the mailing list.
[17:07] <patdk-wk> resno, mirroring what?
[17:07] <resno> i want to keep an eye on the servers cpu and stuff
[17:07] <patdk-wk> oh, monitoring, heh, read fail :)
[17:07] <resno> monitorx was one i heard about... maybe monit and munin
[17:08] <resno> patdk-wk: :-)
[17:08] <robbiew> desperado: hallyn is your man ;)
[17:08] <resno> patdk-wk: i mispelled first
[17:08] <desperado> alright
[17:08] <patdk-wk> I personally use munin
[17:08] <robbiew> desperado: smoser is good too, but he's in and out b/c he's at OpenStack Dev Summit
[17:09] <resno> patdk-wk: i just found it worked the cpu a bit more then i liked
[17:09] <robbiew> desperado: oh, and kirkland...but he's got his hands full with a baby :)
[17:09] <patdk-wk> resno, than configure it differently :)
[17:09] <resno> heh
[17:09] <patdk-wk> I'm monitoring 20-50 items per server, and 50 servers
[17:09] <patdk-wk> not even using 10% cpu
[17:10] <resno> patdk-wk: ive got limited cpu power...
[17:10] <patdk-wk> if you have limited cpu, you can't monitor
[17:10] <desperado> robbiew: my boss asked me to set up a ubuntu server and virtualize a windows XP within it
[17:11] <patdk-wk> if it's a single server only your monitoring, use sar?
[17:11] <desperado> this ubuntu server should run LAMP and SMB
[17:11] <patdk-wk> still find it funny if your munin install is using >100mhz cpu
[17:11] <resno> sar?
[17:11] <desperado> is it a good idea to virtualize another ubuntu server to run these services?
[17:11] <robbiew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[17:12] <resno> patdk-wk: no, its not that limited... but there are times were it gets under load and theres a wait
[17:12] <desperado> I`m running oneiric ocelot
[17:12] <robbiew> jcastro: will probably kill me for not having an askubuntu.com link
[17:12] <jcastro> :)
[17:13] <robbiew> desperado: it all depends on the configuration and capacity of the server, tbh
[17:13] <desperado> it`s a i5-2400 with 16gb ddr3 and 2x 2tb
[17:13] <desperado> raid1
[17:13] <desperado> a nice machine
[17:14] <hallyn> desperado: from what i see looking at the backlog, i don't see any problems, 'Just do it'
[17:14] <robbiew> yep
[17:14] <robbiew> what hallyn says
[17:14] <desperado> I just tried installing windows xp through vnc this morning
[17:15] <hallyn> desperado: and see https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/virtualization.html
[17:15] <desperado> but it came up with a setup error I never saw before
[17:16] <desperado> I found several tutorials on how doing it
[17:16] <desperado> but none seemed to work properly
[17:16] <desperado> (or maybe it`s just me being too dumb to follow some setps)
[17:16] <hallyn> desperado: fwiw I don't use windows anywhere for anything, but ocne in awhile I do install it just to test, and haven't had trouble.
[17:16] <hallyn> desperado: please do open a bug, that's probalby the best way to get the info needed to figure it out
[17:17] <desperado> I made a windows sp2 bootable iso
[17:17] <hallyn> uh, hm :)  maybe ahs3 can help you :)
[17:17] <hallyn> he does funky stuff with windows like that sometimes :)
[17:18] <desperado> it started the vm, booted up and installed windows via dos. when it rebooted to config, an error dialog showed up
[17:19] <hallyn> desperado: and if you open a bug, you can paste a screenshot/picture of the error dialog :)
[17:19] <desperado> first I had trouble connecting to it through vnc to set up windows installer
[17:19] <desperado> then i installed kde and connected to it locally
[17:20] <hallyn> ok, so the server is remote and doesn't have x?  (i.e. you couldn't do it logged in locally over SDL)?
[17:20] <ahs3> desperado: yeah, a bug would be good -- i install a couple of versions of Windows via virt-manager all the time.  the only bugs i find that way are in Windows
[17:22] <desperado> yeah, it`s a ubuntu server text-only
[17:24] <hallyn> desperado: do you know how to file a bug?
[17:25] <desperado> nope
[17:26] <desperado> i think the response time will be too high for me
[17:26] <desperado> It is supposed to be already done
[17:26] <ahs3> which windows are you installing?  win7?  win2008r2?
[17:26] <desperado> I`m struggling with it since friday
[17:26] <desperado> winXP
[17:27]  * arosales reading backscroll for mysql server blueprint util
[17:27] <desperado> is there any way to give you access to connect and check it?
[17:27] <ahs3> hrm.  haven't tried that one in a long time.  who produces the error?  windows?
[17:28] <desperado> yea, windows show up an error dialog
[17:28] <desperado> sorry, I didn`t take note
[17:28] <desperado> :/
[17:28] <arosales> robbiew: thanks for approving the MySQL util blueprint
[17:28] <desperado> but it`s a weird error, I never saw it
[17:28] <ahs3> ah, okay.  was it a message about it not shutting down correctly?  so it has to come back up in safe mode?
[17:28] <hallyn> desperado: did you delete it?  can you just restart it and see if you get the error again?
[17:29] <desperado> oh... I already started a fresh ubuntu install
[17:29] <desperado> X/
[17:29] <desperado> starting over again
[17:29] <desperado> since friday I installed several packages
[17:30] <desperado> and I decided to fresh install it rather than cleaning up
[17:30] <desperado> since nothing was done yet
[17:30] <ahs3> there are some cases in other versions of Windows where Windows itself crashes (good ol' BSOD) on shutdown so you get errors on start-up.
[17:31] <arosales> jcastro: any other actions needed for the MySQL blueprints?
[17:31] <ahs3> but, i've only seen those happen with the paravirtual drivers, not win-native drivers
[17:31] <desperado> ahs3: that was not the case, it installed successfully and rebooted normally
[17:32] <jcastro> arosales: I think just doublechecking them on the schedule next week or so should work?
[17:32] <desperado> then, during configuration process it showed up an error dialog
[17:32] <ahs3> desperado: k.  so something entirely different.  good; that rules out that path
[17:32] <jcastro> arosales: the Oracle folks are new to UDS, maybe doublechecking they understand when the sessions are as a precaution?
[17:33] <desperado> ahs3: I`ll start it all over again right now
[17:33] <desperado> which tutorial should I follow?
[17:33] <arosales> jcastro: will it be showing up here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/track/cloudserver/
[17:33] <desperado> I`ll do it using KVM and LVM
[17:33] <arosales> shortly?
[17:33] <desperado> ahs3:
[17:34] <jcastro> arosales: the scheduler can be dumb sometimes, I check each day individually: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/2012-05-08/
[17:35] <arosales> jcastro: ah ok. I'll follow up with the Oracle folks to confirm they are aware of the time slots.  Thanks for the help on the scheduling.
[18:04] <hallyn> Daviey: roaxsoax: re bug 981728, does orchestra auto-install dnsmasq?
[18:04] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 981728 in libvirt "internal error Network 'default' is not active" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/981728
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[19:00] <wlan2> ohaio minna~
[19:01] <wlan2> I did something very unuseful...
[19:01] <wlan2> I installed webmin
[19:02] <wlan2> Webmin broke something at my apache configuration but I do not know what
[19:04] <wlan2> what can I do?
[19:07] <patdk-wk> don't use webmin?
[19:08] <wlan2> Yes, but I need a way to repair what webmin did
[19:09] <wlan2> even if webmin is uninstalled, apache2 configuration will continue broken
[19:10] <wlan2> I had it configured with virtual servers
[19:11] <wlan2> But wembin did something ugly causing all requests going to default and default-ssl
[19:11] <guntbert> wlan2: if I remember correctly webmin keeps rather good logs about what it does, try to find them
[19:29] <RoyK> !webmin
[19:29] <ubottu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.
[19:30] <guntbert> RoyK: yes, we know that - he tries to recover from webminitis :-)
[19:32] <RoyK> best way is to restore from backup ...
[19:32] <RoyK> less hassle
[19:32] <RoyK> and I guess best answer to that is "what backup?"
[19:32] <wlan2> Last backup dates from 2011
[19:33] <wlan2> Well
[19:33] <wlan2> Itv seems I'ts gonna be
[19:33] <RoyK> why oh why don't we have more developers focusing on btrfs?
[19:33] <resno> i use samba for streaming and it recently keeps causing issues with the cline
[19:33] <wlan2> An awful lot of nano to do
[19:34]  * RoyK is extremely happy with snapshots in zfs
[19:34] <resno> not you aagain :) RoyK
[19:34] <RoyK> oh yeah ;)
[19:42] <halvors> Hi
[19:42] <koolhead17> hi
[19:42] <halvors> I'm currently running ubuntu server with webmin.
[19:42] <halvors> I think that's not recommended.
[19:43] <halvors> So is there any simular solutions for hosting simple domains?
[19:43] <halvors> And using virtualmin too.
[19:43] <guntbert> !webmin | halvors
[19:43] <ubottu> halvors: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.
[19:44] <halvors> guntbert: I know.
[19:45] <halvors> guntbert: I was asking that it's something similar with support for ubuntu i may use instead?
[19:45] <guntbert> halvors: sorry, I didn't *really* read your question
[19:45] <halvors> guntbert: Ok ;)
[19:46] <wlan2> ¿openpanel?
[19:46] <guntbert> halvors: some will tell you about ebox - I tried it once and dropped it almost immediately
[19:46] <resno> is nfs faster then samba for streaming video, etc?
[19:46] <wlan2> resno, if you really want streaming, why not http?
[19:47] <resno> wlan2: streaming to a client... xbmc
[19:50] <halvors> Anything that actually is in ubuntu ppa?
[19:57] <wlan2> can someone remember me how to purge the configuration and set it to default?
[20:05] <locuse> hi.  i need to deploy -- well actually, rebuild -- a xen server. i've been on opensuse, but can no longer deal with the lack of support.  sooooo,  seriously considering ubuntu-server.  iiuc, precise will (?) ship with xen-tools 4.2.1, which led me to suspect/hope xen itself will be v 4.2.1.  but, poking around on packages.ubuntu.com, i'm finding only xen 4.1.x listed for precise.
[20:05] <locuse> can anyone clarify what version of xen will actually 'officially' ship with precise?
[20:21] <hallyn> locuse: zul or smb most likely can answer that
[20:22] <locuse> hallyn: thx.  as they've been pinged now,  i'll wait a bit ...
[20:22] <hallyn> locuse: unfortunately zul is at openstack summit, so it might take a bit for him to see it, but yup
[20:31] <adac> how to install sun-java6-jdk in 10.04 LTS ?
[20:36] <Patrickdk> adac: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jdk-6u30-oth-JPR
[20:38] <adac> Patrickdk, they do not even have a .deb
[20:38] <adac> :(
[20:38] <Patrickdk> they have a .bin :)
[20:39] <Patrickdk> adac, ask oracle to not buy sun? several years ago
[20:42] <adac> Oracle is evil
[20:43] <Nafallo> but they make good hats.
[20:43] <Nafallo> oh. no. that wasn't them, was it...
[20:43] <adac> they even support CISPA
[20:43] <adac> Nafallo, hehe
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[20:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #974938 in libnss-ldap (main) "Process "gsettings" prevents logging in" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974938
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[21:43] <robbiew> SpamapS: I'm thinking we might need a btrfs session for 12.10, in regards to our desire to use/push ceph more...thoughts?
[21:49] <jamiemill> Hi. Having trouble with a monit setup. When I try to terminate my processes, they are stuck in a 'stop pending' state. Here is config - any idea why? https://gist.github.com/b9fc0d12986eeed18a87
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[22:19] <SpamapS> robbiew: So, I think we should have a btrfs session and gather everybody interested to talk about it. Seems like it is mostly kernel team's domain, but we want to be consumers..
[22:19] <SpamapS> robbiew: It should be worth noting that CEPH works fine on XFS, and Sage seemed to suggest that in the 12.04 kernel, it would be better to use XFS than BTRFS
[22:20] <robbiew> SpamapS: I'd say foundations
[22:20] <SpamapS> robbiew: I suppose.. filesystems are always tricky in that regard. :)
[22:22] <robbiew> ;)
[22:22] <robbiew> SpamapS: do we support XFS on ubuntu?
[22:27] <hallyn> robbiew: fwiw i until a few weeks ago i used xfs exclusively on my laptop, worked great.  (ext4 failed me in lucid..natty)
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[22:28] <SpamapS> robbiew: I believe we do yes
[22:28] <robbiew> okay
[22:29] <robbiew> doesn't matter for 12.10 though, right?
[22:29] <robbiew> I mean, the ceph folks preach btrfs all the time, no?
[22:29] <locuse> if i deploy a 'prerelease' precise-server install now, will it have access to precise repos now, and (eventually) migrate smoothly to the full version?
[22:34] <locuse> asking as, iiuc, 12LTS release is 'soon'.  or, it it recommended to deploy a full release now (11.10, or 10LTS) and do a version upgrade at 12LTS release?
[22:35] <Nafallo> locuse: I'd do the latest daily...
[22:35] <Nafallo> locuse: it will say it's a development system for a week or two still, but who cares...
[22:36] <locuse> Nafallo: so the 12-prelease route ... are all the 12 repos accessible?  in opensuse-land, that's not always the case for a prerelease ...
[22:36] <Nafallo> locuse: AFAIK, yes
[22:37] <Nafallo> locuse: (I've already upgraded half of my servers)
[22:38] <Nafallo> that said, I'm not completely sure which repos you're speaking of.
[22:44] <locuse> Nafallo: great, thx!  well, good question -- just talking about access to any upgrades on the path to full release.  again, in *suse, it's been -- if you install the prerelease, it's from .iso only, and the path to next prelease is, again, .iso only.
[22:46] <locuse> oh, and does the ubuntu-server installer support mdadm-RAID (0,1,10) creation from within the graphical installer?  or do i need to drop to a shell somehow?
[22:48] <Nafallo> tui installer, but yes. it does.
[22:49] <locuse> Nafallo: great, thx.  help's appreciated.
[22:59] <jkyle> locuse: are you doing hands off installs? e.g. pxe boots and such?
[23:14] <roasted> HELLO
[23:14] <roasted> Got a server here running DHCP with 2 NICs for LTSP usage, but 1 NIC fails to hand out DHCP while the other NIC works great.
[23:15] <roasted> etc default dhcp3-server has eth0 and eth1 listed so both should be fine.
[23:15] <roasted> the scope for both are identical with the exception of the 3rd octet (10.52.17.1 vs 10.52.18.1)
[23:15] <roasted> any idea why dhcp could work on one NIC but not the other? I'm downright baffled.
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[23:34] <locuse> jkyle: no, not as yet.
[23:38] <locuse> jkyle: atm, migrating a xen host from opensuse -> ubuntu-server, with raid boot, root& data arrays.  trying to 1st recover hosed arrays, and 2nd migrate as much server config as is possible.
[23:38] <locuse> very hands on ...
[23:38] <jkyle> locuse: ah, we use post-flight scripts on automated installs for advanced partitioning. . . much easier than mucking with teh debian-installer
[23:39] <locuse> jkyle: sure.  did the same in suse-land.  xen guests are, of course, trivial.  the smoke-pouring-from-the-server complicated my life a bit ..
[23:40] <jkyle> partman is like some kind of black magic if you're dealing with more than one disk or raids
[23:42] <locuse> jkyle: generally i prefer to get to the shell -- cfdisk/sfdisk & mdadm go a long way ... though i'd be much happier if btrfs were production ready.
[23:42] <locuse> even opensuse's graphical installer -- which is generally quite nice -- is a waste-of-bits when it comes to advanced raid config