[01:24] I finally found an excuse to use the tag in a blog post! http://blog.grossmeier.net/2012/04/15/learning-arduino/ [01:24] hah, how did you end up with that? [01:25] awesome idea [01:26] I can understand howt he toys are crazy. I tried to stay away from too much noise stuff [01:46] greg-g: Send a note to the manufacturer that the toy is defective. [01:46] "It plays drums like a white country music fan" [01:49] rick_h: I think I figured out a way to do the json file for my playlists without sniplate [01:49] create a small script to read the id3 tags off of a series of flac / mp3 files. [01:50] should be a day project [02:01] * snap-l is finally fed up with Miro [02:02] using gpodder now [02:05] snap-l: yea, something to json just screams script me [02:25] http://derivativecrafts.blogspot.com/2012/04/ogre-mk-v.html [12:06] Morning [12:06] morn [12:08] mo [13:06] btw: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct has been updated. [13:06] Expect the trout-slapping to increase [13:07] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/16/code-of-conduct-update/ [13:08] oh great, now we have to be agile [13:16] '''Leadership in the broader interest''' We expect that leaders hold the interests of the team and the Ubuntu community above those of themselves, their employer, and other projects. [13:16] It looks like I won't be leading anything Ubuntu [13:17] heh, no kidding [13:17] "sorry boss, fire me if you must, I'M GOING TO THIS BUGJAM" [13:17] at least it doesn't say above their god or country [13:17] Everyone knows I only do that for WSULUG [13:17] ;) [13:19] Yeah, that needs some rewording [13:22] Colonel Panic, go forth and teach thy peers to worship the One True God [13:23] K later God, I have to go do some questions on Launchpad Answers [13:23] OMG wtf [13:23] *sunglasses* Deal with it. [13:29] I fear one day, my language abilities will devolve to being capable of expressing ideas only as internet memes. === widox_ is now known as widox [13:34] i don't know that internet meme [13:39] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/deal-with-it [13:46] rick_h: What was the command that creates setup.py for Python? [13:47] Not having much luck with Google. [13:47] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/modern-package-template [13:47] ty [13:48] np, it's good stuff [13:48] start every bit of code with that, there are a few examples in packages I wrote at MP that use it [13:50] thanks, I'll check that out too! [13:54] ug, this computer is driving me nuts. brb [13:55] jrwren: yea, nice to start out projects consistantly and you start out being able to do python setup.py sdist ootb [14:01] Hm, PasteDeploy 1.5 has a key error on setup. [14:03] Looks like a bug in the python I have on 11.10 [14:06] snap-l: doh, sorry. Paste the traceback? [14:06] One sec [14:06] snap-l: also try the install again, I have had that happen lately for some reason [14:06] Trying it again in another virtualenv [14:08] what's the latest in editing text fields in vim for firefox? jrwren greg-g ? [14:10] CTRL-C / CTRL-V [14:10] ;) [14:10] bah [14:11] rick_h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9058804/pip.log [14:14] hmmm just chcked that I've got 1.5 here [14:15] 11.10? [14:15] oh hmm, that was pastescript throwing the error not deploy it looks like [14:16] snap-l: yea, try running it again if you haven't [14:16] in the same venv [14:16] wtf [14:16] because the traceback seems to imply that pastedeploy got installed, but that pastescript when trying to reference it failed [14:16] so guessing there's some race condition there [14:18] Yeah, it's working now [14:18] weird. [14:18] ok yea [14:18] cool [14:25] btw: In case someone is wondering if the Penguicon traffic regarding room parties applies to the release party [14:25] registration in this case means having the room party registered with the con [14:26] The hotel liaison helped us set up the release party location [14:26] They're aware of it [14:27] The hotel is VERY strict on keeping things quiet, so if a party erupts on a quiet floor, or the party isn't previously approved, the hotel will boot them from the con. [14:27] period. [14:28] So I don't foresee any problems. [14:28] Unfortunately, if you're planning on attending the release party, you'll still need to have a day pass for Penguicon. [14:28] Which is something we'll need to discuss in the future. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:44] rick_h: i'm not even sure what you are asking. the latest in editing text fields in vim for firefox? [14:45] jrwren: I get a version breackages notice for itsalltext [14:45] and there's a few diff plugins [14:45] so curious what people are using and figured you might be using something [14:46] ah, I don' tuse that plugin. [14:47] i really should use a vim kb plugin for FF, but I've not yet. [14:47] jrwren: k, sorry to bug you :) [14:51] lol, i like it when you bug me. [14:51] nag me to increase my nerd levels [14:58] rick_h: your gear come in yet? [14:59] jcastro: no, UPS man comes late...so probably will be late night bleeding session for me tonight :) [15:00] Sounds like fun. ;-P [15:00] oh yea...can't wait lol [15:00] Y'know, some people pay good money for pain [15:03] this damn split url bar search bar in FF is maddening [15:04] God, this site is retarded. [15:04] https://www.provena.org/stmarys/body_psmhfoundation.cfm?id=578 [15:05] The javascript makes it so you can't send in a donation under $100 [15:25] rick_h: what equipment did you get? [15:26] jrwren: shaving stuff? [15:27] http://goo.gl/PlN31 [15:27] ah, nice. [15:27] http://goo.gl/EkvO2 [15:27] ah, you might have liked the longer handled model razor. [15:27] so I went back and forth on that [15:27] its same exact merkur heavy duty, but with a longer handle [15:28] supposedly the long handle is cool, but should make moving harder? [15:28] you'll probably adjust to the short handle and be just fine. [15:28] yea, I figured short handle == more agile perhaps? [15:28] but we'll see [15:28] oh wow, that looks like a nice brush and a great deal too. [15:28] I did think about it and debate back/forth [15:28] i have a travel model wiht a short handle and i adjust to it just fine when I travel. [15:29] k [15:29] I've not gotten a stand yet and if I end up with two razors I'll get the 4 place stand/holder [15:29] and just deal with it, but whatever [15:29] it's a start to try out [15:29] i didn't get a stand until much later. [15:29] all of these items are nice htings for wives to buy husbands so i just let janice get 'em for me. [15:29] wishliste 'em or whatever. [15:29] good fathersday gifts ya knwo. [15:30] yea, true [15:30] travel one I have: http://www.amazon.com/Merkur-Travel-Razor-Chrome-Plated-Leather/dp/B001LY5WZ2/ref=sr_1_53?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1334590214&sr=1-53 [15:30] nice [15:30] even shorter handle, but its cool, it screws apart in 4 pieces. [15:31] yeah, folds down to very small for travel. [15:31] what soap/etc do you use? That seems to be the big giant whole to fall into [15:31] and TSA has never paid it notice [15:31] hah, cool [15:31] i use wahtever soap i have around. [15:31] wife got me some very fragrant soap i'm using now. [15:31] ah k [15:31] but in the past I've used fragrant stuff that I snag from hotels [15:32] really? [15:32] yup, really anything works. [15:32] oh cool, didn't realize that. [15:32] its just if you really want to spoil yourself you get the stuff with that a.... acid can't remember the a word [15:32] it makes your face tingle and feels real nice. [15:32] gotcha [15:32] does it linger? i used aftershave a couple of times, but it made my coffee taste like windex [15:32] yea, more worried about stuff that'll sud/hold water well I guess [15:32] acetic maybe? [15:32] nah, it doesn't linger. [15:33] i seriously thought someone poured ammonia in the coffee machine. dumped it out and made a new pot [15:33] ouch [15:33] brousch: GROSS [15:33] yeah, so no smelly aftershave now [15:34] i did enjoy the soap that was in jorge's picture. that came in the black plastic container. [15:34] it was very nice. [15:34] yea, I got a thing to start with that's like that [15:36] that lasted me a long time [15:36] 6-9mo IIRC [15:37] yea, I figure at the end of a few weeks I'll have an idea how it works out and what to look at going forward [15:37] *nod* [15:37] maybe you will like lots of fragrance, maybe you won't. [15:37] maybe you will like the luxury of a nice soap, maybe you won't. [15:38] or maybe you won't care enough to care about the fancy soap <-- me [15:38] i like it when it is there, but i don't go out of my way to get it. [15:45] hah, need to start up a new podcast on shaving. jcastro can star in it [15:46] COUNT ME IN [15:46] alright, who has an X-series 9-cell lenovo battery they want to sell me? :) no luck here for the last few weeks http://outlet.lenovo.com/accessories/batteries.html [15:47] greg-g: come to UDS, I might give you mine [15:47] my x220 isn't becoming travel friendly anymore, too much shell damage [15:47] smoser: you going to UDS? [15:48] rick_h: if you don't have a stand don't let the brush sit upright like that when it's drying off [15:48] ouch, shell damage? what did you do to the thing [15:48] jcastro: Dude, what the heck? [15:48] rick_h: supposedly you don't want water down by the knotty end of the brush over long periods of time [15:49] jcastro: yea, figured getting it all up there would be bad [15:49] I'll get a stand, just going to wait a few days of trial first [15:49] laying it on it's side should do the trick, heh [15:49] yea, or rig to hang it via string/something for a bit [15:49] you need a special fan and sanitizing gel to make sure it stays clean [15:49] hahaha [15:49] I'm already afraid of the brush after seeing posts about the smell of them to start with [15:50] mine smelled a little bit for the first 3 times [15:50] that was it [15:50] it's not like, OMG, I AM DYING. [15:50] an autoclave will work too [15:50] I am feeling very facially hair challenged. [15:51] jcastro: yay! I will! (though, admittedly, I won't be there the whole week, but I'll be there for part of it) [15:52] I have the small battery too [15:52] greg-g: I need the laptop for UDS but towards the end? [15:53] sure thing, when are you leaving town? [15:53] that saturday morning [15:53] so the Friday perhaps? [15:53] yeah, def that Friday I'll be there [15:54] just added to my calendar, 5pm - Midnight "Get laptop battery from jorge, etc" [15:54] ;) [15:55] s/Get laptop battery/Try to find Jorge to find that window of time to get laptop battery/ [15:56] yeah, exactly :) [15:57] hah, this diff really isn't very helpful at all http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sabdfl/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/revision/17 [15:58] greg-g: Maybe we could do a git merge. ;) [15:58] * greg-g snickers [15:58] It looks on the surface like they made it less verbose. [16:00] right, but, as I've learned talking to lawyers and politicians, you have to watch every single word because once it is gone and you agree to a version, it is near impossible to get it back (if you care about that word, that is) [16:00] the more i use desktop linux, the more i hate it :( [16:00] aww man, such a nice response from an All Hands Active person on my blog post, too bad I can't go take him up on the offer: http://blog.grossmeier.net/2012/04/15/learning-arduino/ [16:01] i really like the new brush smell [16:01] why do I have to hold the mouse button down in menus? [16:01] shouldn't 1 click leave it open and let me click my selection? [16:04] jrwren: it does in gnome-shell :) [16:06] that sounds odd jrwren [16:09] rick_h: heh! 9 minutes. [16:09] rick_h: I shave around lunch time now [16:09] jcastro: vnc session might behave differently? [16:09] I am down to 3 passes, 9 minutes. [16:10] jrwren: hmm maybe, I don't see why it would though [16:10] 3 passes, 9 minutes, what does that mean? [16:10] does it do that in other OSes? [16:10] jrwren: 3 lathers and shaves [16:10] oh damn. i just do a single pass and its good enough. [16:10] jrwren: according to the guy-who-looks-like-Craig videos that's how you're supposed to roll [16:10] oh, well, I am hairy too [16:11] yeah, you always had the 5 oclock shadow at noon. [16:11] indeed [16:11] in the army I had to shave like 3 times a day [16:11] it sucked. [16:11] 6am, noonish, and then around 5ish if I was working at night [16:11] jcastro: what?! really? 3x a day? [16:11] wow [16:11] army efficiency! (or something ;) ) [16:11] my brother is even worse, he shaves and you can't tell [16:11] heh [16:15] i always forget you are army [16:54] greg-g is the Army? [16:55] ColonelPanic001: no, jcastro [16:55] jcastro is the Army? [16:56] no, WAS [16:56] rick_h, yes, going to uds. i arrive wed of previous week. [16:56] then they had to form the DoD to replace him, I assume. [16:57] once army, always army [16:58] ColonelPanic001: I got it, don't worry :) [17:08] qotd https://twitter.com/#!/garybernhardt/status/191935421738008577 [17:11] lol. [17:11] i was actually running linux on the desktop in 1997 [17:11] and today I'm not. [17:11] well the whole thread there is fun to watch a little bit [17:11] it started out more with the estimated logevitiy of these node apps and such [17:15] i only show one reply :( [17:15] yay status net! [17:15] jrwren: just check out gary's stream [17:15] it wasn't all in a single thread, he just spurted out and ended up dragging it over several posts [17:16] ah, i see. thanks. [17:19] jrwren: You're still running UNIX though [17:19] or at least something that can cope with 20 year old code reasonably well [17:20] you-nicks! [17:20] uh oh...here we go [17:20] saved myself from the dinosours [17:20] UNIX on my phone. [17:20] UNIX on my linksys router. [17:20] jrwren: You're on a Mac? [17:21] UNIX on my mac. [17:21] i am jrwrenning today [17:21] ya know... for a week there i didn't know bash well enough and I needed an expr feature that is in gnu but not bsd, had ot gnuify my system. [17:21] old dell is not running well [17:22] jrwrenning === winning [17:22] :) lol. [17:22] <3 u guys [17:28] snap-l: remember my comment on overmastery the other day? I just had to turn volume WAY down on this becasue it was so bad it hurt my ears: Eminem Without Me [17:31] brousch: do you have any good way of queue'ing up things in google music? [17:31] guess just create a playlist nad keep adding crap to it? [17:32] it's the one thing that sucks about G music [17:32] well, 2 actually [17:33] rick_h: So I retagged and reripped some stuff [17:33] and it reuploaded it to GMusic [17:33] which I was like "oh awesome" [17:33] except now I have exactly two copies of every metallica album on there [17:34] playlist is the only quque, i think [17:34] queue [17:34] can't delete 'em? [17:35] jcastro: yea, it's a bit quirkly in playback [17:35] I'm liking it overall, but I keep hitting little things going..ugh, come on [17:35] funny. i copied all of my music to itunes and gmusic hasn't doubled up anything [17:35] rick_h: I know, that last 10% is so annoying [18:01] anyone know CGI well enough to know how the server invokes the script? [18:01] i know it sets QUERY_STRING and PATH_INFO and some other stuff [18:01] but how does it pass docroot? [18:02] does it change pwd and invoke the script as ./script ? [18:03] hrm... scripts executed from ServerRoot. [18:12] jrwren: I think there's a little more sandboxing than just cd $DOCROOT;./script [18:13] snap-l: you are probably wrong :) [18:13] I don't know offhand what that is, though [18:13] jrwren: Wouldn't be a first. :) [18:13] anyway, I was looking for SCRIPT_FILENAME [18:13] snap-l: there is zero sandboxing. [18:14] I thought 2.x added some more [18:14] unless you run something like suexec [18:14] well, i'm talking CGI [18:14] server agnostic [18:14] Ah, OK [18:14] I've only worked with Apache for Perl CGI [18:15] and php-cgi for NGINX [18:19] php-cgi is waht i am using too. [18:19] but i'm trying to run it cmdline. [18:19] i want to pass QUERY_STRING and have it run a for-web php. [18:24] something different than this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3848901/how-to-pass-query-string-parameters-to-the-php-binary [18:26] snap-l: yes, that is what i'm doing, but those answers are unsatisfactory [18:27] use argv is not a real answer. [18:33] greg-g: sounds like you need MORE WHITESPACE in your life [18:34] any vimmers use set switchbuf=usetab ? [18:34] jcastro: :) [18:37] its possible my vimconfig is not good. [18:37] 2G of usage just seems wrong. [18:39] greg-g: hah man [18:39] "see you on identi.ca" [18:39] awesome [18:39] jrwren: 2G of ram? [18:40] jrwren: no, using switchbuf useopen [18:41] ???? [18:41] greg-g: What's this about identi.ca? [18:41] snap-l: see his G+ post [18:41] snap-l: actually, I didn't mention identi.ca, but, I've basically said I won't use G+ anymore :) [18:42] it was a long time coming, something stupid just tilted me over the edge [18:42] greg-g: Always the way it happens. [18:43] * greg-g uses a ton of will power to not click that red 1 at the top of GReader because he knows its in response to his last post and dang would that be hypocritical [18:43] heh [18:44] watch, it'll be the best conversation ever on G+ (on something I said) and I'll miss it [18:44] Well, it's part of the reason I switched back to r2e [18:45] I missed the part about people sharing back with me in my reader, not my plus page. [18:45] Although I want to know when greg-g became the angry hippie. [18:46] i miss wave and buzz [18:46] buzz, maybe. Wave was a solution in search of a problem. [18:47] snap-l: yeah, it was gradual, but precipitated after the move to SF, I believe. I really need to work on getting the angry back out [18:54] greg-g: You should move back to Michigan. We don't harsh mellow. [18:54] We just bbq the mallow. [18:57] roast the mallow on a stick ovr an open flame [19:08] ok ok ok I clicked it! [19:08] jcastro: now I get why you mentioned identi.ca ;) [19:09] haha [19:16] this is awesome: [19:16] http://arxiv.org/pdf/1204.0162v1.pdf [19:17] guy proving his innocence (accused of running a stop sign) via a paper he wrote and put on arXiv [19:22] anyone want to help me with a bash quoting problem. maybe if I ask, i'll figure it out. [19:22] blah | awk '{print "define('\'\"$1\"\'', 1);//"$1}' [19:22] teh second $1 displays, hte first doees not, i can't figure what I'm doing wrong with quoting. [19:26] nvm, got it [19:26] see, i just had to ask [19:26] what's the solution? [19:30] | awk '{print "define('\''"$1"'\'', 1);//"$1}' [19:32] when in doubt, add more 's [19:34] http://www.metalinjection.net/around-the-interwebs/what-kind-of-metalhead-are-you [19:39] zomg snap-l this is awesome. [19:44] heh. the pantera one made me snicker [19:47] funny thing is I don't fit any of those [19:47] meh, they're stereotypes from one guy [19:47] "Guy that's just there to listen to the music" [19:48] lame [19:48] i don't fit them either. [19:48] but I'm not a metaler [19:50] snap-l: You are the power metaller, but lack the hair [19:51] brousch: I think I'm offended [19:51] lol, vim just gave me OOM ! [21:04] If you want any Cloudkicker merch, better get on it. [21:04] Ben Sharpe is getting married, so he'll be AFK for a month [21:05] http://cloudkicker.bandcamp.com/ [21:13] grrrrr....if you do python and use tabs I'll...I'll......bah!!!!!!!!!!! [21:21] i might have done just that, lemme check [21:21] nope, guess my conditional vimrc is working. [21:23] better...else you end up with diffs like this: https://github.com/mitechie/python-readability/commit/edccec5d3b4cecee3fdccff7667dd81bb3ed6258 [21:24] because I get freaking syntax errors adding code that has spaces in it [21:25] yuck [21:30] someone reformated your spaces? [21:30] just tell diff to ignore whitespace :) [21:31] it's past work hours [21:31] let's talk about shaving [21:33] I got a new beard trimmer today! [21:40] jcastro: got my stuff in, but have ot make dinner and get the boy to bed [21:40] looks shiny [21:41] jrwren: I reformatted their tabs into spaces so I could edit their code [21:41] it's going to go through a pep8 religous experience tonight [21:41] and if they don't like it I'll just keep my fork [21:42] rick_h: hah [21:43] rick_h: nice. [21:43] rick_h: install a precommit hook that runs *.py through a pep8 command [21:43] jrwren: no kidding [21:44] http://build.bmark.us/job/bookie-api/violations/ build servers people... [21:44] I need to do some light cleanup on the main bookie app [21:44] http://build.bmark.us/job/bookie-main/violations/ [23:55] jcastro: ok, first shave done [23:55] all tingly [23:56] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007XD3EU/ref=oh_o04_s01_i00_details has me feeling all pretty :P