[00:00] <txomon> ghil, but do u have 2 screens?
[00:00] <Octane> ghil yeah default is 18gb
[00:00] <Octane> thinking about going down to like 10
[00:00] <jamie_> Can someone help me, When i try to install some software from the USC, i get the following message "E:I wasn't able to locate a file for the smc-data package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package."
[00:01] <ghil> txomon: yes, I have two screens. Twinview set up with Unity.
[00:01] <Areckx> That's awesome, I wonder if I can get an additional monitor
[00:01] <ghil> Octane: it should be more than enough. 16gb is mainly breathing room so you can do some things with it.
[00:01] <Octane> ghil cheers mate
[00:02] <Areckx> I have 180gb partition, I say I should focus on learning the 10.04 OS
[00:02] <ghil> Areckx: Twinview currently supports 2 monitors at once. if you get a third, it would have to be cloned from one of the two primaries.
[00:02] <ghil> np Octane :P
[00:02] <Areckx> oh when you enable cloning
[00:02] <Octane> oooh there's also a way to increase wubi size!!
[00:02] <txomon> ghil, its a shame you dont have gnome-shell... could you install it?
[00:02] <Areckx> I didn't like the rotating cube
[00:03] <Areckx> so you can have one monitory with exactly the same output as your first, and a third monitor that is a unique workspace?
[00:03] <ghil> yes
[00:03] <Areckx> YES!!!
[00:03] <ghil> I never tried it, since I don't have three monitors, but the option is certainly there.
[00:03] <aaas> sorry why would you want to clone your monitor?
[00:03] <Areckx> Is there a way to get my foot in the door working at a company that runs Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:04] <Areckx> I live in California
[00:04] <ghil> aaas: a lot of reasons, say you want to present something, or have it clone your desktop on the TV so you can watch things, etc...
[00:04] <Areckx> I need to get an HDMi cable
[00:05] <jamie_> You wouldnt need to use software to clone displays When i worked in retail we had several displays running from one screen, aslong as your using LCD tvs (Or monitors if u can find them) with an Output on them (Scart or HDMI) then you can run as many as you want
[00:06] <aaas> ok but for most people just at their desktop there aren't people wasting a monitor because it doubles things ;)
[00:06] <ghil> aaas: I doubt someone would double his desktop for the fun of watching it twice. :p
[00:06] <aaas> haha
[00:07] <txomon> ..
[00:07] <txomon> MOG :D
[00:08] <^Mike> What's the program that catches when you try to run a program that isn't installed and then finds possible matches, and suggests which packages to install?
[00:09] <jamie_> im trying to install a game from the software center, and i keep getting a popup saying a previous installation failed, how do i repair this?
[00:10] <ghil> jamie: have you tried installing it through terminal? (sudo apt-get install nameofthegame) and seeing the results? normally, it'll be more verbose about what's not working, and we'll be able to build from that.
[00:10] <jamie_> Ghil: ill try that now, then give you the result
[00:14] <jamie_> Ghil: when i installed from the terminal, it worked. Thanks alot. I shall install things from the terminal more often now
[00:14] <ghil> jamie: yes. while the USC is a nifty new tool, apt-get is generally better for everything. Once you're used to it, it's normally quicker too :P
[00:16] <stef1a> hi
[00:16] <ghil> Hey there
[00:16] <Sajan> I'm a former Windows user.  Why does Unity get such a bad rep?
[00:17] <ghil> it's because it's really far from what most Linux users where used to.
[00:17] <ghil> It's also a little counter-intuitive if you've been using Gnome for 10 years.
[00:17] <ghil> but it's really not bad. I'm getting used to it slowly. ^^
[00:18] <Sajan> I see.  Coming from Windows, I found Unity much more appealing than the others.
[00:18] <stef1a> i'm using ubuntu 10.10 and i've noticed recently, after switching some connection settings around, that it now takes a very long time to initially load website pages, even though my up and download speeds are very fast (25/5)
[00:19] <ghil> Sajan: I think that was the idea. Offer a new paradigm that would benefit most people, and wouldn't be quite awkward for windows/OSX users.
[00:20] <Sajan> ghil: It seems to have angered most loyal users in the process.
[00:21] <bazhang> !ot | ghil Sajan
[00:26] <c_smith> Hello, I'm trying to get Conky to read my Wlan speed, and I've no clue how to do so, currently it reads my Lan speed which isn't used.
[00:26] <txomon> ghil, you should really try gnome-shell
[00:27] <austin182> Why is Linux so great?
[00:28] <ardian> Hi, I have 2 graphic cards nvidia and Intel but I want to use the intel one I know I am using nvidia now because of the config Icon but which Driver cause Optimus is making me crazy
[00:28] <phillijw> austin182: why are turtles blue?
[00:29] <aaas> phillijw  haha that's unfair, it's a real question...just a broad one ;)
[00:29] <austin182> they are not blue!!
[00:29] <phillijw> and who said linux was great?
[00:30] <aaas> hmmm maybe he's saying linux isn't great then
[00:30] <stef1a> i'm using ubuntu 10.10 and i've noticed recently, after switching some connection settings around, that it now takes a very long time to initially load website pages, even though my up and download speeds are very fast (25/5)
[00:30] <Tekk_> I'm trying to help someone build a game on ubuntu, but they get an error with SDL's Mix_Init saying that MIX_INIT_OGG and MIX_INIT_FLAC don't exist. Does anyone else have that problem? he has the sdl mixer development libraries
[00:30] <phillijw> linux has tons of problems that windows/osx doesn't have. Its just different
[00:31] <austin182> I did...I guess its a opinion sort of thing so i will be quiet now
[00:31] <txomon> austin182, it is because it is very modular, accesible for anyone and free. And overall, very customizable (as much as you want/can)
[00:31] <aaas> yes all oses have pros and cons, the question is to the degree the pros outweigh the cons for particular circumstances
[00:31] <txomon> I supposed you meant linux
[00:31] <txomon> linux=kernel
[00:32] <aaas> austin182 it really depends on what you want to do with your computer interaction, windows, osx may be fine or even bettetr
[00:33] <skulltip> i can't go into recovery mode, it tries to boot and then stalls at:  ACPI: PWR BUTTON  ....
[00:33] <austin182> ya I get it Linux just made my crappy computer run a lot smoother so i'm liking it!
[00:34] <aaas> austin182 im with you...personally im on windows right now, but you should see the crazy things i got going on my server it has been a godsend for me
[00:35]  * txomon knows that having a windows server is just... calvary
[00:37] <suzanne> how do i add  a program to the "open with "opton
[00:37] <danes> hello, how can I play a DVD movie in my computer? What do I need to install?
[00:37] <austin182> I do like the windows OS though, because of compatibility. Btw have any of you people tried windows 8?
[00:38] <danes> it seems that it is encrypted and I cannot play DVD movies
[00:38] <wylde> !dvd | danes
[00:38] <wylde> !ot | austin182
[00:39] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue
[00:40] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent
[00:40] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:40] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:40] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:40] <FloodBot1> mrd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <txomon> that was antiflood measure
[00:41] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:41] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:41] <wylde> !alis | mrd_
[00:41] <wylde> !patience | mrd_
[00:42] <suzanne> how do i add  a program to the "open with "opton ./ or wherre do i find  the programs on ubuntu?
[00:43] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:44] <goddard> how can i make it so my touchpad and bluetooth are disable by default?
[00:45] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:46] <txomon> !info mrd_
[00:46] <zykotick9> suzanne: from terminal "whereis foo" will give you the path of "foo"
[00:46] <mrd_> hello  any one know the channel name of pearson vue pls help its very urgent plzzzzz help
[00:46] <wylde> mrd_: you need to stop
[00:46] <mrd_> what with my info any way ask me directly
[00:46] <wylde> !ot | mrd_
[00:48] <suzanne> zykotick9, im  a bit new at this. but where like pigin and thunderbird to set it to auto-start when i login?
[00:49] <zykotick9> suzanne: sorry, for unity i have no idea.
[00:49] <suzanne> ubuntu 10.04
[00:50] <zykotick9> suzanne: there is a "startup applications" or similar in the menus
[00:51] <suzanne> ok i found that, so how do i get it to work for thunderbird  and a bunch of other apps?
[00:52] <whitekidney> http://pastebin.com/mR1531xw - Anyone wanna help me out with that?
[00:53] <zykotick9> suzanne: "whereis thunderbird" type thing and put that into the path part, i think the only other thing is a name...
[00:54] <txomon> !alis | txomon
[00:55] <suzanne> zykotick9,  thunderbird: /usr/bin/thunderbird /etc/thunderbird /usr/lib/thunderbird /usr/share/man/man1/thunderbird.1.gz  so that do i do with this?
[00:56] <wylde> suzanne: /usr/bin/thunderbird is the path to the executable.
[00:57] <whitekidney> http://pastebin.com/mR1531xw - Anyone wanna help me out with that? Trying to install a package and need to overwrite some files
[00:59] <ChogyDan> whitekidney: have you tried uninstalling the other package?  (I don't know amd64)
[01:00] <whitekidney> ChogyDan: I can't remove that whole package.. can't i just overwrite?
[01:00] <suzanne> wylde, thanks ! so  can i use this  to "open with option? when i downlown something like an rss feed , so it defualt to thunder bird?
[01:00] <ChogyDan> whitekidney: well, you can delete the file yourself, with rm.  Dpkg will never do it for you; it is a built in safety protection
[01:01] <suzanne> zykotick9,  thanks for your help
[01:01] <ChogyDan> whitekidney: well, maybe there is some option in dpkg...  I don't know it offhand
[01:01] <wylde> suzanne: if you set thunderbird for RSS feeds in it's options then yes.
[01:02] <suzanne> yea!! :D
[01:03] <Scott_Z> I just did an upgrade to 64bin and now when I try to boot I get the following error. run init: /sbin/init exec format error. Any ideas?
[01:04] <escott> Scott_Z, upgrade to 64bit? you mean the "unsupported changing of your binary format?"
[01:05] <wylde> Scott_Z: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1636386.html
[01:05] <Scott_Z> escott: no I used a 64bit live CD and selected the option to save all my files and install (that was the default that was already selected)
[01:06] <drounse> where can i find ubuntu server 12.04
[01:07] <madlumberjack> hey has anyone gotten a toshiba backlit keyboard working yet?
[01:07] <wylde> drounse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Beta2
[01:07] <wylde> !precise | drounse
[01:08] <drounse> wylde: thanks
[01:08] <suzanne> wylde,  so thunderbird -h will make the program auto-start  upon login?
[01:09] <madlumberjack> can anyone help me out here?
[01:09] <wylde> suzanne: thunderbird -h print the help
[01:10] <wylde> suzanne: I'm not on 10.04, there's an application in preferences for startup programs, you just have to add a new one and use '/usr/sbin/thunderbird' as the command to autostart when you log in
[01:11] <suzanne> wylde,  so what command do i put in "startup applications?
[01:11] <Scott_Z> wylde: I looked at the post but i cannot seem to find the script to run. All I see are the results that were posted. I am a newbie so thanks for the patients.
[01:11] <pilotbub> has anyone run into shuttleworth's office to find him secretly dual booting OS X
[01:11] <wylde> suzanne: /usr/sbin/thunderbird
[01:12] <pilotbub> "I need to get some real work done sometimes guys"
[01:12] <bazhang> !ot | pilotbub
[01:12] <const_antine> hi, what is the equivalent of MS Windows 'net' tool for Ubuntu?
[01:13] <skel> const_antine: ssh
[01:13] <suzanne> wylde,  thanks for your help
[01:13] <const_antine> skel, cool, didn't know it was compatible with NetBIOS
[01:13] <wylde> Scott_Z: I hope you made backups of your data beforehand... I personally don't know how to resolve your problem, I have never had to deal with thtat situation
[01:13] <skel> const_antine: oh you want the samba equivelant
[01:13] <wylde> suzanne: no problem :)
[01:13] <const_antine> sure
[01:14] <skel> const_antine: depending on what you want it'll be some tool in the samba suite. like smb_browse etc
[01:14] <const_antine> there is 'net' but it doesn't support all the commands
[01:14] <jgornick> hey guys, is it possible to resize a terminal only instance of ubuntu… meaning, i have it installed on a virtual machine and i want to increase the size of my window by increasing the size of rows and columns of the shell… is this possible?
[01:14] <const_antine> such as 'view', 'use', etc
[01:14] <Scott_Z> wylde: I backed up my home folder but it does me no good if I cant get the os back up. Thanks though
[01:14] <skel> const_antine: what specifically are you trying to do? I might be able to be more specific
[01:15] <suzanne> wylde,  im half way there to the answer.... now to manually input  dozens apps to auto start
[01:15] <wylde> suzanne: really? you need all those applications to autostart?
[01:16] <dlentz> suzanne, just make a script that does it and put that in autostart
[01:16] <skel> const_antine: smbclient will work for a lot of the stuff
[01:16] <const_antine> i need to copy over files
[01:16] <skel> const_antine: yeah, smbclient will work for that
[01:16] <const_antine> from what i understand whatever is marked as shared will be available upon mount
[01:17] <const_antine> ok, thank you
[01:17] <const_antine> smbclient it is
[01:17] <skel> const_antine: yeah if you wanted a more permanent solution smbmount would be the way to go, but if you just want to copy a few files, smbclient is good
[01:17] <skel> const_antine: np =]
[01:20] <suzanne> wylde,  dlentz  yes , skype thunderbird, mico, web,.. and a few others ...  really ? a script    i dont know anything about that...
[01:23] <mercedes> hi i need help because i delete some apps and when i click exit in lubuntu says Failed to execute child process "lubuntu-logout" and i can shut down
[01:23] <drounse> im going to use ubuntu server, for my files and streaming movies to my devices (computer, tablets etc. only one at a time though) also i would like to be able to access these files from outside of my home network (at school, or anywhere with internet) i have 2.5gb of ram total that i need to split with the server and my desktop (one 512mb stck, and two 1gb sticks) how much should i use for my server?
[01:23] <mercedes> cant
[01:23] <Roasted> Generic question - Lexmark undoubtedly... sucks... but what about Canon? I don't have much experience with Canon, just curious if they have decent Linux support.
[01:23] <Roasted> particularly Canon scanners.
[01:24] <skel> drounse: depends on how you're streaming..
[01:24] <mercedes> i cant shut down mi laptop
[01:24] <skel> drounse: are you using a solution that will need to transcode the media?
[01:25] <skel> drounse: or just a straight up http stream?
[01:25] <drounse> skel: id like to use xbmc, so whatever would work best
[01:25] <skel> drounse: I'm not familiar with xmbc, does it transcode the media into different formats for the devices?
[01:25] <dlentz> mercedes, workaround is to press Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, and ruin sudo init 0
[01:25] <Zteve> #Beginner
[01:25] <dlentz> *run
[01:26] <suzanne> drounse,  i hear  plex  is a good dlna server/media server app , and it  does many devices and platforms
[01:26] <caoxiaomin> 如何进入中文UBUNTU
[01:26] <caoxiaomin> ？
[01:26] <caoxiaomin> HELP
[01:26] <mercedes> ok butt when i click exit says this Failed to execute child process "lubuntu-logout" (No existe el fichero o el directorio)
[01:27] <caoxiaomin> 这里不欢迎中国人吗？
[01:27] <drounse> suzanne: does it work with ubuntu?
[01:28] <suzanne> How to enter the Chinese?  这里不欢迎中国人吗？ ( translated)  caoxiaomin
[01:28] <escott> !cn | caoxiaomin
[01:28] <wylde> !cn | caoxiaomin
[01:28] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-cn caoxiaomin
[01:28] <drounse> skel: one of my devices would be a tablet, and the rest would just be computers
[01:28] <suzanne> yes drounse  it work with in ubuntu
[01:29] <LeroyR91> shi de, wo men zhe li huan ying zhong guo ren
[01:29] <drounse> suzanne: so how much ram would i need?
[01:29] <suzanne> http://www.plexapp.com/
[01:29] <Areckx> ?
[01:30] <Areckx> is that good?
[01:31] <suzanne> Areckx,  whom are you talking to ?
[01:33] <Areckx> suzanne,  sorry
[01:33] <Areckx> suzanne ::  I am just starting to get used to the interface.
[01:34] <hi675445> is xubuntu classed as ubuntu
[01:34] <Almagest> Hello, Im trying to create a Install USB so that my friend can run Ubuntu off of it, i've Created the USB perfectly but everytime he plugs it into his laptop he gets the copyright info shown. What am i doing wrong that it wont boot?
[01:34] <suzanne> Areckx, in theroy yes its a good idea. combine it with evernote and you got a copy and like machine you and later read, like your own rss feeds
[01:35] <Areckx> is there a way to do it from terminal???
[01:35] <DiabolicalGamer> howdy
[01:35] <Areckx> open source apt-get?
[01:36] <Almagest> ?
[01:36] <hi675445> xubuntu run better than ubuntu
[01:36] <DiabolicalGamer> Can anyone tell me why MaaS with Ubuntu 12.04 isn't working? I've added two nodes, but both are listed offline even once booted.
[01:37] <suzanne> drounse, this app works within ubuntu, and runns in the background.. i  have amd 2.1.  2gb ram. am i have tons for stuff going( but manage like a pro ;)
[01:37] <Almagest> syslinux 4.06 EDD 4.06-prel Copyright (C) 1994-2011 N. Peter Anvin et al
[01:37] <drounse> suzanne: i only have 2.5 gigs that i need to split between mt desktop and server:/
[01:37] <Almagest> Thats what pops up every time he trys to boot it
[01:38] <suzanne> Areckx,  me?
[01:38] <jgornick> hey guys, is it possible to resize a terminal only instance of ubuntu… meaning, i have it installed on a virtual machine and i want to increase the size of my window by increasing the size of rows and columns of the shell… is this possible?
[01:38] <drounse> the server can either use the amd athlon ii or the celeron d, i use the amd for my desktop but i guess i could use it for my server
[01:38] <Almagest> I've tryed unetbootin and universal
[01:40] <hi675445> it mite be a boiso thing u have to change
[01:40] <suzanne> drounse,  512-700ish  will run fine in virtualbox.. (remind you that vb has a limit on a software level even when given ton of hp from hardware
[01:41] <Almagest> a BIOS?
[01:41] <hi675445> try it agane it has happened to me it may be an error in croupson
[01:42] <drounse> suzanne: it wont be in a vb, it will be on the ubuntu server whichwill be on the metal
[01:42] <hi675445> it odd re  download it make sure you use firefox
[01:42] <suzanne> drounse, this amount is also considering  a gui"gmone" or lighter.  with tons of other apps, but
[01:42] <hi675445> chrome
[01:42] <Almagest> i used chrome
[01:42] <drounse> suzanne: it willl be headless
[01:42] <suzanne> drounse, metal?
[01:42] <hi675445> that ok that will be ok
[01:43] <Tekk__> I'm trying to compile a program that uses sdl mixer on 11.10, and it keeps erroring saying that MIX_INIT_FLAC and MIX_INIT_OGG are undefined. I have the sdl mixer dev files though. anyone else have this problem or know what's rong?
[01:43] <Tekk__> wrong*
[01:43] <drounse> suzanne: not a vb, actually installed on the harddrive
[01:43] <hi675445> chrome ok with iso dont no about ie tho
[01:43] <drounse> use chromium
[01:43] <Almagest> I've got everything compiled
[01:43] <Almagest> Im thinking something with the boot on the image is off?
[01:43] <drounse> Almagest: why are you compiling?
[01:44] <hi675445> just try redownloding the iso
[01:44] <hi675445> and start agane
[01:44] <suzanne> drounse, how hard core work are you going to put the server through on avg?/ or  the avg load?
[01:44] <Almagest> hmm....
[01:45] <Almagest> So redownload the ISO, Run usb unviversal or UNETBOOTIN and try again?
[01:46] <Almagest> His hard drive is fryed so im trying to run the OS from the USB
[01:46] <drounse> suzanne: it will be for my files, so i can save my files from anywhere/ access from anywhere, and stream my media, mostly movies, because i will save my music to the server as a back up
[01:46] <drounse> Almagest: if youre in ubuntu you should use startup disk creator it works better
[01:47] <OomElvis> q
[01:47] <OomElvis> how do i find out when a folder was created via command line?
[01:47] <OomElvis> usually u get the modified time
[01:47] <OomElvis> with ls -l
[01:47] <Almagest> I have a dual boot system, windows and ubuntu, But im not doing it directly on my laptop, My friend and i are in differnt states, so im doing it remotly from my PC to his.
[01:48] <drounse> Almagest: but if his harddrive is fried then how can you even get on his remotely?
[01:48] <suzanne> drounse,  well if its fine for 512, but 1gb tops, incase you change your mind later(1gb)
[01:49] <Almagest> He is using a horribly old windows XP desktop. I copy the ISO onto it and create the USB from it, then put the USB into the newer laptop.
[01:49] <Almagest> His Desktop is slower than dial up and sucks to work on remotly.
[01:51] <Almagest> So thats the advice, Redownload and try again? Is there something i could have done wrong?
[01:52] <Zteve>     #wasteland
[01:58] <phillijw> My numlock light is ON but when I use the numpad it isnt making numbers
[02:02] <Areckx> Wow it keeps doing that
[02:03] <Almagest> Im going to try and make an image from ubuntu and send it to him through dropbox, copy it to a usb and see if that works
[02:04] <Areckx> Almagest::  That;s a good idea
[02:04] <Almagest> when i create the image in ubuntu, i can set it onto the hard drive to sit right?
[02:04] <Almagest> i dont need a USB plugged in?
[02:04] <Areckx> I used the ubuntu website to download the ISO
[02:04] <Areckx> I used USB
[02:05] <Areckx> I used Ubuntu 10.04 to prepare the ISO onto the USB
[02:05] <Almagest> I used the website to, but when he trys to boot from the USB Stick he get a weird error message, it wont boot
[02:05] <Areckx> Almagest::  Type "live"
[02:05] <Areckx> at boot
[02:06] <monkeybox> anybody have a solid way to get music from Ubuntu 11.04 to an iPhone 4s with iOS5?
[02:06] <Areckx> errr, 12.04
[02:06] <Areckx> I meant to say
[02:06] <Almagest> He cant type
[02:06] <Areckx> upload to sendspace?
[02:06] <Areckx> Almagest:: no keyboard / not detected?
[02:07] <Areckx> monkeybox:: you can upload 400mb files maximum to sendspace
[02:07] <Areckx> then download it via an app from your iOS
[02:07] <Almagest> SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-prel Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[02:07] <Areckx> monkeybox::  plenty of FREEWARE to choose from
[02:07] <Almagest> Thats what pops up, and nothing can be pressed to get rid of it
[02:08] <Areckx> vive?
[02:08] <Almagest> vive?
[02:08] <monkeybox> Areckx: Thanks for the sendspace suggestion I'll give it a shot. Everyone else seems to be using virutalbox and a windows vm to sync
[02:09] <Areckx> monkeybox::  you could just put them as .7z files if you prefer
[02:09] <Areckx> very high compression rate
[02:09] <samuel> hello! anyone awake?
[02:10] <shape> Hello, can anyone please tell me where can I set up the threshold for bad sectors for Disk Utility?
[02:10] <Areckx> samuel::  for awhile now
[02:10] <escott> shape hdparm?
[02:10] <shape> escott: no idea what that is :(
[02:11] <Areckx> shape::  have you tried doing double/triple pass oif 0000 0000 ???
[02:11] <samuel> haha thankyou
[02:11] <shape> Areckx: where? and what is that. In the GUI Disk-Utility I don't find any options
[02:12] <samuel> can anyone recommend any data recovery software for flash memory?
[02:12] <shape> Also, in fedora it tells me the HDD has problems yet in Ubuntu, the same program (Disk Utility) says it has a few bad sectors even though it has 200 of them
[02:12] <Areckx> shape::  that would be where you should start searching :: an option to do that
[02:12] <samuel> the disk utility on my gf's mac somehow wrecked the formatting on her sd card
[02:12] <shape> Areckx: And that's what I'm asking.
[02:13] <escott> shape, http://linux.die.net/man/8/hdparm
[02:15] <microp12> test
[02:15] <shape> escott: So, Disk Utility gets its info from hdparm?
[02:16] <escott> shape, no it gets it from smartctl. but AFAIK smartctl is only for reporting. its possible smartctl allows you to change warning levels so you might check it as well
[02:16] <shape> escott: Because it's Disk Utility that shows me a green circle in Ubuntu (a few bad sectors - 200 sectors) and same Disk Utility in fedora shows me a yellow circle. And Alerts me the HDD is having health problems.
[02:16] <shape> I find that very odd that the same program in different OS reports different things.
[02:17] <escott> shape, maybe there is some text file somewhere that determines what the warning levels are
[02:18] <shape> escott: exactly, and that's what I was asking, if someone knows where to find that.
[02:18] <dwatkins> shape: what are the two operating systems that report different results for the same app?
[02:19] <shape> Ubuntu 11.10 (no alert for 200 bad sectors - green circle on S.M.A.R.T.) and Fedora 16 (alert for 200 sectors - yellow circle on S.M.A.R.T.)
[02:20] <wrb>  #bespin .
[02:20] <escott> shape, any config files like that would be in /etc
[02:20] <DaemonFC> shape: It's a known issue that older versions of the GNOME Disk Utility made less serious issues seem more urgent
[02:20] <dwatkins> I'd check the smartctl -a output for the disk, but bear in mind the numbers are often counter-intuitive, shape
[02:21] <covi> Any one using cmus? I'm using it in my gnome terminal, and '-'  '+' do not decrease/increase the volume at all.
[02:21] <DaemonFC> I'd go by whatever the newer version is saying to you. A lot of issues that aren't really all that serious have had their urgency "downgraded"
[02:22] <shape> DaemonFC: but 200 bad sectors for a 2TB drive isn't bad you say?
[02:22] <shape> IT keeps on adding 1 bad sector per day
[02:22] <DaemonFC> then the disk is failing
[02:22] <DaemonFC> back up your data now
[02:22] <dwatkins> backup and have it replaced
[02:22] <pksadiq> any one having problem browsing fsf.org or gnu.org now?
[02:22] <DaemonFC> figure on it failing soon
[02:22] <dwatkins> if it's 2 TB, it might still be in warranty
[02:23] <DaemonFC> yes, but you usually need to run the manufacturer's diagnostic utility and report any error code with your warranty claim
[02:23] <DaemonFC> some manufacturers won't replace it just because of bad sectors, but some will if you won't take no for an answer
[02:24] <shape> dwatkins: Indeed. I only had it for a year. My only inquiry was how come the same program reported differently. I understand the HDD is bad.
[02:24] <DaemonFC> I'd be persistent and explain that the bad sector count is rising rapidly and that you're concerned that the disk will fail soon
[02:25] <dwatkins> shape: understood, both distros are quite new, but perhaps they do indeed have different enough versions of Disk Utility as DaemonFC suggests
[02:25] <shape> DaemonFC: Yes, I will. First I need to buy a HDD to back up and then RMA the bad one. However I find it ironic that my 6 year old 80GB from the same manufacturer (Seagate) has NO BAD SECTORS.
[02:25] <microp12> test
[02:25] <shape> dwatkins: So it's the program version that sets the parameters. correct?
[02:25] <shape> dwatkins: As in I would be messing with it if I change those things.
[02:25] <DaemonFC> Disk Utility won't turn yellow or red until the drive is nearly out of replacement sectors to allocate
[02:26] <DaemonFC> when it runs out, then you're at a huge risk of having not only bad sectors, but data that is totally unrecoverable
[02:27] <BryGuy71Z> is there a way to reupgrade?
[02:27] <shape> DaemonFC: I see. Yet in Fedora turned yellow for only 200 sectors. I find that a better way to alert the user, because otherwise I would have never checked on my own.
[02:27] <DaemonFC> the way the firmware determines when a sector is bad is when it starts having trouble reading data from it. The idea is to move the data over to a replacement sector while it can still be read.
[02:27] <BryGuy71Z> im getting cannot initialize x11 x gui errors
[02:27] <dwatkins> shape: from what I understand, later versions handle thresholds of bad sectors differently
[02:27] <DaemonFC> shape: What version of Fedora?
[02:27] <shape> DaemonFC: Fedora 16
[02:27] <DaemonFC> I know 16 and 17 have newer versions of the disk utility than Ubuntu 11.10 does
[02:28] <DaemonFC> so I'd go with whatever they say
[02:28] <shape> Oh, good to know.
[02:28] <shape> How can I find this information on my own
[02:28] <shape> i.e. a table or a list
[02:28] <shape> with what the distros programs versions are.
[02:28] <samuel> hi just incase anyone has answered me and i havnt noticed, THANKS! otherwise, the tool i opted for was PhotoRec found with the testdisk package
[02:29] <dwatkins> shape: you can search http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for gnome-disk-utility
[02:30] <DaemonFC> shape: On Fedora and most RPM distributions you can use rpm -q <packagename> and it will tell you the version you have installed. On Debian-based systems (including Ubuntu), it is dpkg -s <packagename>
[02:30] <shape> DaemonFC: Oh ok. I am looking on the web because I'd have to turn on my laptop to check fedora that way.
[02:31] <shape> it should be on the main page or wiki (looking now)
[02:31] <DaemonFC> and the name of Disk Utility is actually palimpsest
[02:32] <HankySpanky> Hello everyone ?
[02:32] <dwatkins> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome-disk-utility suggests Oneric has version 3.0.2-1ubuntu2, whatever that means.
[02:32] <lwizardl> is there a way to stop ubuntu from adding a trash folder to external drives?
[02:33] <shape> dwatkins: I was looking at that actually! and the fedora one is gnome-disk-utility-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 557kB
[02:33] <DaemonFC> shape: Sometimes you'll see more bad sectors right after a disk format, but it depends on the file system and OS, or at least what version of the mkfs utility or kernel version you have :)
[02:33] <dwatkins> aha ok, shape - only a minor difference, then
[02:33] <dwatkins> still, it may be significant, there might be something in the release notes about thresholds
[02:33] <shape> dwatkins: yes but that annoys me because I want to find out! XD
[02:34] <dwatkins> find out what, shape?
[02:34] <shape> dwatkins: The threshold XD, and if you can modify it. And the thing is, when I go to the Disk Utility support it tells me to go to the ubuntu channel.
[02:35] <shape> dwatkins: Maybe I should email the developers for Disk Utility?
[02:35] <DaemonFC> older distributions were more likely to expose bad sectors because the formatting process for Ext2/3/4 used to go through and actually check every sector at the time you created the file system
[02:35] <DaemonFC> they stopped doing that as of like, last year to make the formatting process faster
[02:36] <phillijw> anyone know if a good command line calculator?
[02:36] <Blizzerand> Hi, if want to install nginx via apt-get, is there anyway to get the list of all dependencies and packages which get installed along with nginx
[02:36] <phillijw> something that I can just type in formulas or quick math
[02:36] <DaemonFC> the time needed to create an Ext4 partition of a couple terabytes was well over a minute and now that is only a few seconds
[02:36] <dwatkins> phillijw: bc
[02:36] <shape> DaemonFC: The 2 TB drive has only media/storage stuff on it. I never used it for the system.
[02:37] <phillijw> dwatkins: cool
[02:37] <shape> dwatkins: Thanks for your help btw!
[02:37] <DaemonFC> the downside is that if there are dozens of bad sectors, you won't know about it until the file system tries storing something on one
[02:37] <jjgalvez__> system completely froze during a system backup, trying to figure out what could have gone wrong, any thoughts as to which log files I should be looking at?
[02:37] <DaemonFC> so it will uncover them over time instead of marking them all bad at once
[02:38] <curl_e> phillijw: bc for quick math. You can pipe expressions to octave or R
[02:39] <shape> DaemonFC: Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the tips! :)
[02:39] <skellum> Er bu grr, wubi is kickin my butt
[02:39] <DaemonFC> shape: So it is entirely possible that those have all been there all along and it is just uncovering them one at a time as it tries to write something to the disk
[02:39] <phillijw> curl_e: maybe i'll have to learn about those 2 at some point
[02:40] <DaemonFC> in that case, there could in fact be hundreds more that it just hasn't told you about because it hasn't gone to write anything there yet
[02:40] <skellum> Not resuming download for the big image is wild
[02:40] <shape> DaemonFC: Yeah. I will contact Seagate anyway. Because like I said before it's 1-2 sectors every day. :(
[02:40] <DaemonFC> so they could just already be there and the count will increase as it finds them
[02:41] <DaemonFC> I just throw the drive away and slap a new one in if I'm not sure I can trust it anymore
[02:41] <DaemonFC> I jsut had one myself that was a few years old that started doing that
[02:41] <shape> DaemonFC: Well, Seagate offers 5 years warranty and Ive only used it for 1 year.
[02:42] <DaemonFC> just remember to make a pass with the manufacturer's drive utility to zero out all sectors before you send it in if there is any confidential information on the drive (or before it goes in the trash, depending on if they will honor the warranty or not)
[02:42] <shape> I understand.
[02:42] <shape> DaemonFC: Anyway I must leave! Thanks for your help!
[02:43] <DaemonFC> you never know who or what or where that drive will end up, so it's better to shred everything if it's going to be out of your possession :)
[02:43] <DaemonFC> yep :)
[02:43] <dj_segfault> Quick sanity check: It would be stupid to try to upgrade a 10.04LTS server to 12.04LTS when it comes out, right?  I should do a fresh install?  I think way too much has changed since then.
[02:44] <zykotick9> dj_segfault: expect issues ;)
[02:45] <jrib> dj_segfault: umm, why would it be stupid?  It's explicitly supported...
[02:46] <dj_segfault> jrib: M'Kay.  Reading the docs it says to go one revision upgrade at a time, and I guess I could do that, but it seems like an awful lot has changed between those releases.
[02:46] <jrib> dj_segfault: no, LTS -> LTS is explicitly supported
[02:46] <jrib> dj_segfault: (i.e. you do not need to go to 10.10, 11.04, and 11.10 in between)
[02:47] <dj_segfault> jrib: I was looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:47] <dj_segfault> I guess if I back up first there's not much to lose in trying
[02:47] <Ukto> hey guys, a friend of mine is using a dell onboard raid which makes a "Dell Virtual Disk". they installed ubutnu, and its been fine for the last few months. there was a power issue, box rebooted, now it starts to boot ubuntu, and comes back with a VFS error mounting sdc1. it shows beforehand thatboth sata links are down, and raid autodetect found nothing. he said he hadnt recompiled the kernel or anything. but.. heh. any ideas?
[02:47] <DaemonFC> dj_segfault, I don't see any reason to not do an in-place upgrade. Two things to remember would be to back up important data first, and to burn a CD of 12.04 anyway in case you ever want to reinstall it from scratch.
[02:47] <jrib> dj_segfault: and?  That page should confirm (or at the very least not contradict) what I've told you
[02:48] <Ukto> i even tried usiong lilo to boot run level 1, but no change
[02:48] <pangolin> dj_segfault, that page hasn't been updated yet to include to recommended process for upgrading to 12.04 either. In 11 days when it is released officially you will be offered to upgrade by the upgrade manager
[02:49] <dj_segfault> jrib: Ah, I see the second part of that sentence where it says you can go from LTS to LTS.  Thank you for pointing that out.
[02:49] <dj_segfault> pangolin: Thanks.
[02:49] <jrib> dj_segfault: yep, one of the big benefits of LTS
[02:49] <pangolin> dj_segfault, protip: backups :)
[02:49] <DaemonFC> I burn a new LTS ISO each time they refresh the ISO with all the updates applied to it, like 12.04.1, 12.04.2. If the time ever comes where I need to do that, I don't really want to look forward to old installation media that may have bugs or be missing hardware support that I need.
[02:50] <dj_segfault> pangolin: Been there done that tip: Two backups ;)
[02:50] <DaemonFC> in 10.04, there was a very good example of that. A bug prevented it from bringing up my display if I used DVI, but 10.04.1 didn't do that.
[02:50] <pangolin> anyway 12.04 support and talk in #ubuntu+1
[02:50] <DaemonFC> It was aggravating to have to go find a VGA cable just so I could get the thing installed and apply the proper update that made it stop doing that. :)
[02:51] <dj_segfault> pangolin: yeah, i guess I should move to there.  Sorry.  Will do
[02:51] <pangolin> DaemonFC, Please stick to answering/asking questions. We don't need an essay of your past trials.
[02:52] <Punk_Unity> I have an issue with x11 gnome shell not botting when i reb oot
[02:53] <Areckx> anyone use android OS http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17705873
[02:53] <Punk_Unity> http://pastebin.com/jdj5RGZW
[02:53] <pangolin> Areckx, ##android maybe
[02:53] <Ukto> anyone have any suggestions?
[02:54] <acorn> as to what?
[02:55] <acorn> I thot this was practice morse code channel
[02:55] <Blizzerand> How do I use apt-get to install a package in my home directory so that I do not have use sudo for accessing it later
[02:55] <DaemonFC> Punk_Unity, What's with the paste? Most ddx drivers haven't needed a xorg.conf in years. Unless you wish to override a default setting then you do not need to create one.
[02:55] <Ukto> acorn: my issue? :)
[02:55] <kanliot> let me remark on how slow apt-get seems to be today
[02:55] <Punk_Unity> im about to reinstall the whole OS
[02:56] <acorn> sorry ukto..my mistake..joined on the fly
[02:56] <Punk_Unity> ok DaemonFC
[02:56] <Almagest> Anyone might know why a CPU would freeze in the middle of a boot from a LIVE USB?
[02:56] <Blizzerand> Anyone has any idea? I thought this should have been quite simple task. :(
[02:57] <Punk_Unity> well i have no idea how to boot into ubuntu anymore
[02:57] <kanliot> almagest how much ram
[02:57] <Punk_Unity> sometimes it works and mostly it says x11 cannot initialize
[02:57] <Punk_Unity> error
[02:57] <kanliot> almagest try the alternate installer
[02:57] <Almagest> Have no alternate
[02:57] <Almagest> gets stuck on the copyright image
[02:58] <Almagest> enough ram, its a newer laptop
[02:58] <binny> hey guys!! =)
[02:58] <kanliot> stuck right after you boot?
[02:58] <binny> I have something here that's been killing me all day:
[02:59] <binny> I'm trying to set up a ubuntu server. But the ethernet cable doesn't seem to be connecting for some reason....
[02:59] <Punk_Unity> how do i reset all my defaults?
[02:59] <binny> it delivers internet to the computer I'm on now. But not to the server...any suggestions?
[02:59] <binny> thanks =)
[02:59] <Almagest> SYSLINUX 4.06 edd 4.06-prel Copyright (c) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[03:00] <Almagest> thats the screen it freezes on
[03:00] <kanliot> almagest  that's a good error description but i don't know what it means
[03:00] <kanliot> you might google it, and also google your laptop model
[03:00] <Almagest> the hard drive is fryed on the laptop im trying to load the os on, so im trying a live flash drive, Created from Universal and UBOOTIN
[03:01] <Almagest> i've google, many other have had the problem, no one has the solution.
[03:01] <dj_segfault> Blizzerand: I believe the answer is that you don't need to type in the password because you want to access the .deb, you need to type in your password to update the software database and install the software.  So yeah, you need to type in the password regardless of the permissions on the .deb.
[03:02] <ghil> So i've installed the latest 12.04, and even though it says I have the NVIDIA graphics driver (version current) activated, it defaulted to Unity-2d. how can I fix that?
[03:03] <Blizzerand> dj_segfault: Thanks for the reply :) But that wasn't what I was looking for(I think). I want to install nginx in my home directory(apt-get will install it in /usr/bin/ or something) so that I can use nginx in future without having to use sudo
[03:04] <Blizzerand> How do I do that
[03:04] <escott> !precise |ghil
[03:05] <yeats> binny: you've verified that the server's NIC is functional?
[03:07] <binny> my hunch is that it's not so I'm trying to find drivers for it but, it may be totally functional, lol, how do i check if it is?
[03:09] <yeats> binny: lspci would let you know if the server recognizes that the NIC is attached
[03:10] <binny> ahh. ok. so when i do that, it tells me: ethernet controller: realtek semiconductor co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C+
[03:10] <yeats> binny: also /var/log/syslog and/or /var/log/dmesg should have some messages about it
[03:11] <ghil> tried changing to post-release update driver, and it still defaults to unity2d. -_-
[03:11] <yeats> binny: 'grep eth /var/log/dmesg' should show something useful
[03:11] <squid> binny...are you having a network issue?
[03:12] <craigbass1976> Isn't there an apt-get install lamp-server type of command to get everything in one fell swoop?  I'm googling badly I guess
[03:12] <binny> squid: no. I specifically checked the same cable on this computer and it worked fine
[03:12] <squid> jeremy-4201...is that your CCIE number?
[03:13] <squid> sorry binny I dont know the original problem that you have...
[03:13] <yeats> craigbass1976: do 'sudo tasksel' and select LAMP from the options
[03:14] <craigbass1976> yeats, aha; forgot that step
[03:15] <binny> yeats: i did 'grep eth /var/log/dmesg" and got "[3.654468] 8139too 0000:02:02.0: eth0 Realyek RTL8139 at 0xdc00, 00:16:17:15:20:23, IRQ 22"
[03:16] <yeats> binny: are you trying to assign a static IP or are you using DHCP?
[03:17] <dj_segfault> Blizzerand: Sorry I misunderstood you.  Looking at the man pages, I'm not sure you can do that.  ISTR that rpm had a parameter to change the installation root but I don't think apt-get install does.  You might be able to get away with changing ownership of the files to you though.
[03:17] <n-iCe> I have dell inspirion mini 1018 but I cant ifconfig wlan0 up says is blocked because rfkill
[03:25] <MooNSpell> hi
[03:25] <MooNSpell> so quiet
[03:26] <MooNSpell> m 36  here any mature lady wana chat
[03:26] <n-iCe> I have dell inspirion mini 1018 but I cant ifconfig wlan0 up says is blocked because rfkill
[03:28] <Celltech> How do I update java, divX, and flash by terminal command?
[03:29] <Wildbat> Celltech, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:30] <Celltech> So it would be sudo apt-get update java?
[03:30] <Wildbat> no i will update all your package
[03:33] <y0om4> how can i pause a process?
[03:34] <celthunder> y0om4: kill STOP
[03:34] <Areckx> thanks!
[03:34] <y0om4> i don't want to kill the process
[03:34] <y0om4> i simply want to pause it then unpause it later
[03:34] <Areckx> how about process monitor?
[03:34] <celthunder> y0om4: it doesnt stop pauses it
[03:34] <celthunder> y0om4: kill cont should continue it later
[03:34] <Areckx> System>>Administration
[03:34] <y0om4> how do i unpause it
[03:35] <y0om4> okay
[03:35] <skel> MooNSpell: if /jazz and /disco were in a boat.. and /jazz fell out.. who is left?
[03:35] <Areckx> missing directory error?
[03:35] <celthunder> skel: everyone you dont cease to exist just because you are not in the boat :)
[03:36] <skel> celthunder: =]
[03:37] <dj_segfault> skel: If the boat is moving, then /jazz would be left as the boat moved away
[03:37] <skel> the point was just to get MooNSpell do type /disco =]  but we can do philosophy too =P
[03:37] <dj_segfault> alternate snarky answer: It depends on if /jazz fell off the left side of the boat or the right side of the boat
[03:38] <celthunder> skel: :) were bored
[03:38] <skel> dj_segfault: are you measuring angular momentum?
[03:38] <skel> celthunder: I can see =P
[03:38] <celthunder> at some point in time niether would be left....at least alive...
[03:40] <skel> celthunder: then I suppose you could start to argue at what point does a single celled organism differ from a chemical reaction and where do you assing "life" to one and not the other :-P
[03:41] <celthunder> skel: dang i should have shut up while ahead
[03:41] <celthunder> lol
[03:41] <skel> =]
[03:44] <Celltech> In update manager. Is there a list of updates that aren't needed and ones that are? Last time I updated it screwed so much up
[03:45] <dj_segfault> My current theory is that life is not something you have, or some critical collection of substances.  Life is a flow of energy, like electricity.  That's why if you stop a life without removing any matter from the previously living thing you can only bring it back to life by causing the flow of energy again (jump start the heart, make the lungs go in and out,etc).  And yes I am sleep deprived.  Why do you ask?  Oh right.  you didn't.
[03:45] <goddard> Celltech: what happened?
[03:46] <mundane> hey, so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my janky computer. anyone willing to help?
[03:46] <mundane> i'm new, never used it before but want to learn.
[03:46] <deper29> hey, can someone help me install acroread on 10.04? when I try sudo apt-get install acroread I get this for output http://pastebin.com/tdMP72Bj
[03:46] <dj_segfault> mundane: Define "janky".
[03:46] <pilotbub> um hackintosh if youve got this skills if not try it in a VM before you commit
[03:47] <pilotbub> its not a retail OS and efforts must be made to reach the status quo you may expect
[03:47] <Celltech> My graphics messed up, my computer got super super slower, and things just stopped working all together. I just freshly installed 10.04 no updates at all and I like it this way. I just need to update java and a couple other browser things
[03:47] <mundane> dj_segfault: it's new and the computer itself is fine but windows 7 isn't working on it so i've had to use other computers
[03:48] <skel> okie, I'm all done upgrading. ttyl, have a good night =]
[03:48] <pilotbub> if OS X is a walk in Central Park on a perfect spring afternoon Linux is a walk in a minefield under enemy fire
[03:48] <pilotbub> mundane you sound like a windows 8 candidate
[03:49] <pilotbub> ubuntu sounds fun in theory but in practice it may drive you to a dark part of yourself you or your loved ones never knew existed
[03:49] <deper29> anyone have any suggestions?
[03:49] <xangua> !ot | pilotbub
[03:50] <pilotbub> um... is answering a support question in the support channel off topic? sheesh
[03:51] <Celltech> Ugh! Whatever. I'll run update mananger again but if it messed up. I'm going back to windows. So I can avoid this junk
[03:51] <mundane> pilotbub: i've comitted myself to this and i don't want this to be just another thing i back out of lol
[03:52] <mundane> if anything i've always been interested and tired of putting up with mac/windows silliness. i just want to install it, if only to see
[03:52] <pilotbub> I'd say start with Win 8 and VirtualBox a distro
[03:55] <mundane> i don't really have the Win 8 option right now. i have the ubuntu CD burnt and ready to go, i just want help getting it set up because it's not doing what all the set-up guides say it'll do and i want to know if anyone knows why.
[03:56] <pilotbub> what step are you a
[03:56] <pilotbub> t
[03:58] <mundane> i burnt the CD. I have it in my CD drive. when i start up my computer it has me at the Windows Boot Manager - giving me two options, Windows 7 and Ubuntu. When I select Ubuntu, instead of taking me to an installation thing, it gives me a message "minimal BASH-like like editing is supported."
[03:58] <Booyah> pilotbub: Why do you say that. "Dark part of yourself"
[03:58] <mundane> This an HP Pavilion dv6 for what that's worth
[03:59] <pilotbub> what sort of CPU
[03:59] <pilotbub> Booyah its just what it says what is there to be confused about
[03:59] <pilotbub> mundane can you burn your own cds or better yet do you have a thumb drive
[04:00] <pilotbub> if its a P4 youd have to wait for input from people who know the best version for that proc
[04:00] <mundane> i'm using another computer on which i burnt another CD. i have also tried the USB stick to the same result.
[04:02] <mundane> pretty sure it's a P4
[04:02] <mundane> but i can burn my own CDs and I have a thumb drive, yes.
[04:03] <zenlike> Hi everyone, does anyone have experience with installing Ubuntu as a dual boot OS from some sort of backup of a Virtual Box install?
[04:04] <zenlike> I have a Windows 7 PC and I've been running Ubuntu in Virtual Box, but I think it's time to move it to a real partition and not just a virtual one.
[04:06] <pilotbub> is it?
[04:06] <mundane> i've also thought of installing an older version like 9.10
[04:06] <mundane> i just need some functional OS on this laptop
[04:07] <mundane> like, putting 9.10 and using that to get the most recent version
[04:08] <pilotbub> maybe mint would suit your purposes mundane
[04:08] <mundane> i just want to know why i don't get the install screen when i reboot my computer with the CD in
[04:08] <mundane> mint?
[04:08] <pilotbub> LMDE Cinnamon... and you might have an alternate text based CD
[04:10] <mundane> alright, so i should get cinnamon
[04:10] <pilotbub> its all as simple as unetbootin + USB
[04:10] <pilotbub> but remember its not a retail OS
[04:11] <pilotbub> so after hours of effort you may realize I was right and you're better off on Win 8
[04:11] <mundane> why does it matter that its not a retail OS
[04:11] <pilotbub> you'll see
[04:11] <pilotbub> enjoy the adventure
[04:11] <mundane> why are you being mysterious and sage-like and not just answering my questions
[04:11] <mundane> thanks for the advice
[04:12] <pilotbub> lol and yw
[04:12] <bozonius> unity slows down my entire system.
[04:12] <pilotbub> zenlike, still here? partition, install and then work on transferring files
[04:12] <bozonius> is there a trick to this, or how to disable
[04:13] <bozonius> btw, I am running ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM
[04:13] <zenlike> pilotbub:  hm, i had hoped to somehow get all the things i've sudo apt-get installed without having to do it all over again
[04:13] <wookienz> hi guys. I stupidly changed my UID in the /etc/passwd file. I now cant log in. I have read the forums about ssh'ing nd changing the file back or by changing wnership of the ICEauthorty file bt i cant eve do tht. Essentilly i m locked out of my box. ny ideas how i fix this?
[04:13] <bozonius> currently, I am giving it 2 cpus at 60% level
[04:13] <zenlike> not too many files so it's not the end of the world, but was curious if anyone had an elegant solution.
[04:14] <pilotbub> google around there is a way to go from virtualbox image to baremetal install but im not too familiar i know its easier with vmware but worst case scenario you could convert the disk image
[04:14] <pilotbub> gl
[04:14] <zenlike> bozonius:  try 3d acceleration, give it plenty of RAM, and enable hardware virtualization if you have a multicore CPU worked wonders for me
[04:14] <bozonius> wookienz:  I usually boot my linuxrescuecd, but there may be better ways.
[04:14] <squid> guys...switch to windows and your problems will be gone.
[04:14] <squid> LOL
[04:14] <bozonius> ah!
[04:14] <zenlike> squid: lol
[04:14] <zenlike> it's so obvious
[04:14] <bozonius> that's it.  Fatten up MS's bottom line
[04:15] <wookienz> I hae a guest connection to the 11.10 box but it is not in the sudoers file. I cant ssh from another box, there is no response. All i can think of is a live cd boot mount the drive and change it that way. Any other ideas?
[04:15] <zenlike> pilotbub: thanks for the help, i'll look into it
[04:15] <bozonius> Gates needs the cash so he can help all the underprivileged in the world who are victims of capitalism.
[04:15] <pilotbub> yw
[04:15] <squid> wookienz...are using a VM?
[04:16] <squid> I F*&^ing hate windows dude
[04:16] <sacarlson> wookienz: if you have physical access you can boot single user as root and fix things
[04:16] <bozonius> I heard that disabling 3D actually helps in some cases.
[04:16] <wookienz> squid, no. physical access.
[04:16] <bozonius> personally, I haven't noticed any differences
[04:16] <squid> ufffffffffff
[04:16] <wookienz> sacarlson, what keys do i hold to do that?
[04:17] <sacarlson> wookienz: no physical access there is no way that I know to single user boot from remote
[04:17] <squid> are hacking someone? lol just kidding...
[04:17] <squid> let me think here for a bit
[04:18] <wookienz> sacarlson, i hve physical access.
[04:18] <bozonius> zenlike, how much is "plenty of ram?"  I gave it one Gig
[04:18] <wookienz> there was a "." after the no.
[04:18] <squid> so...sudoers account locked up, only access using the guest but no root priv...and no physical access...
[04:18] <zenlike> bozonius:  i threw 3 gigs at mine, but I have 6 on my whole system
[04:18] <bozonius> eh
[04:18] <wookienz> squid, i have physical access.
[04:19] <bozonius> 3G?
[04:19] <sacarlson> wookienz: oh then just hold shift at boot and pick restore in grub
[04:19] <squid> wookienz let me see if i can get you the steps for that...just a sec
[04:19] <wookienz> no "restore" option. can i drop to command line and do it there?
[04:19] <sacarlson> wookienz: ya rescure sorry not restore
[04:19] <bozonius> That makes it sound like a certain resource-sucking "operating system," which is really a desktop application recycled and tweaked 7 times, along with a price increase
[04:19] <zenlike> bozonius: yep, ~ 3 gb.  that video memory setting cranked up to 128 mb (i think that's the max?) seemed to help too
[04:19] <sacarlson> wookienz: rescue
[04:20] <bozonius> I've got 128MB of video
[04:20] <zenlike> bozonius: word, yeah, i'm considering going to baremetal install for this very reason.
[04:21] <wookienz> ah i see...ill look at that.
[04:21] <zenlike> bozonius:  i use windows applications less frequently than terminal etc. so i think WINE would be more fitting for me
[04:21] <zenlike> than virtual box
[04:21] <bozonius> tbh, I am not working on anything serious here.  Just testing and trying it all out, trying to understand how it all works together.
[04:22] <zenlike> same here man.  that's the spirit of linux!
[04:22] <zenlike> i think so, at least
[04:22] <Almagest> Who here can help someone with a seemingly unsolvable problem!!!???
[04:22] <zenlike> Almagest:  What is the set of all sets?
[04:22] <bozonius> I use Windows less often than terminal.
[04:22] <pilotbub> an unsolvable problem? no one
[04:22] <zenlike> bozonius:  agreed
[04:22] <bozonius> In fact, I use Windows ... ZERO.
[04:22] <zenlike> Except to run your Linux on.  :)
[04:22] <Almagest> So check it
[04:23] <bozonius> Only at work, where they haven't discovered that there is a computing universe that is not tied to proprietary licensing
[04:23] <syslq> zenlike: hehe
[04:23] <main> I will hear the "unsolvable problem
[04:23] <Almagest> My friends hard drive is fried, so im trying to boot Ubuntu onto the pc from a Flash drive.
[04:23] <Almagest> Possible correct?
[04:23] <mundane> i came for installation support. i stayed for the philosophical implications of linux
[04:23] <syslq> Almagest: if your bios supports it sure
[04:23] <Almagest> It does
[04:23] <Almagest> Now then
[04:23] <bozonius> sorry, mundane
[04:23] <squid> There is a recovery mode in Ubuntu...
[04:23] <Almagest> I have the flash correctly set up
[04:23] <squid> http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-change-user-password-in-recovery.html
[04:23] <sacarlson> Almagest: easy plug and play maybe some bios setting to enable usb boot
[04:24] <Almagest> When i try to boot the os
[04:24] <squid> wookienz...
[04:24] <Almagest> Problems insue
[04:24] <syslq> bozonius: that's weird btw, most companys here have at least some portion of business on linux
[04:24] <bozonius> we should take this other nonsense to a social forum...
[04:24] <squid> check that site out
[04:24] <zenlike> bozonius:  Yeah, I feel that pain... it seems as open source takes off more and more due to Github and it's ilk, it's becoming a lot more feasible to drive use in professional situations
[04:24] <bozonius> syslq.
[04:24] <zenlike> mundane:  LOL
[04:24] <pilotbub> bozonius, or maybe like all businesses they like to get things accomplished and not troubleshoot every machine for hours a day
[04:24] <Almagest> A weird message pops up and the PC Freezes
[04:24] <bozonius> syslq:  This is the United States here.
[04:24] <bozonius> There ARE no other countries.
[04:24] <Almagest> How do i get past this screen?
[04:24] <syslq> bozonius: I thought in USA that's even more common
[04:24] <bozonius> Just us, the US military and Microsoft.
[04:25] <bozonius> not in the offices it isn't.  The US is still tied down to Windows nearly everywhere.
[04:25] <sacarlson> Almagest: message that states what?  might be it tries to boot from hard disk first so will fail,  change the boot sequence so usb boots first
[04:25] <syslq> bozonius: I was checking your job market a while ago and it seemed hungry for linux pro's
[04:25] <bozonius> Unix, Linux, Solaris, etc are used for servers and web hosting, cloud computing services.
[04:25] <squid> syslq...LOL
[04:25] <zenlike> pilotbub: this is a good point i've thought about a lot, when you pay for a service/product you can demand things such as ease of use / accountability for weird bugs and stuff
[04:26] <syslq> squid: so that's not true then :)?
[04:26] <sacarlson> Almagest: so you will have to boot into bios setting mode to change boot sequence
[04:26] <squid> there is nothing like Linux in this world!!!!
[04:26] <syslq> squid: ?
[04:26] <sacarlson> squid: yes there is there's solaris
[04:26] <bozonius> I applied to RackSpace for exactly that reason, syslq.  I flunked the phone interview because I couldn't rattle off the numeric values for all the entries in /etc/services.
[04:26] <squid> Im not a Microsoft person AT ALL.
[04:26] <syslq> bozonius: hehe :)
[04:26] <bozonius> that's the kind of Linux "expertise" they are looking for.
[04:26] <bozonius> yeah.
[04:27] <bozonius> fsck them.
[04:27] <Almagest> SYSLINUX 4.06 EED 4.06-prel Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. peter anvin et al
[04:27] <syslq> bozonius: wtf, point is that you know where to find info, not to have it memorized :)
[04:27] <Almagest> thats what it gets stuck on
[04:27] <bozonius> tell them that.
[04:27] <Almagest> I've ordered the BIOS boot correctly
[04:27] <squid> syslq...bingo!
[04:28] <syslq> bozonius: don't worry, from such interview the only possible conclusion is that, you don't really want to work there if you have any other choice :)
[04:28] <pilotbub> and BSD
[04:28] <bozonius> Look, syslq, what do you want from a country that insists that market-driven health care is a better alternative than universal health care?
[04:28] <bozonius> agree, syslq
[04:28] <sacarlson> Almagest: is this ubuntu?
[04:28] <Almagest> Yes
[04:28] <bozonius> very agreed
[04:29] <bozonius> anyway, is there an alternative to unity?
[04:29] <squid> I really like to help people out...I really do and I enjoy helping people here in the forum, but sometimes it looks like people just want others to google simple shit for them....
[04:29] <zenlike> bozonius:  GNOME shell I think/
[04:29] <syslq> bozonius: kudos on health care
[04:29] <bozonius> zenlike, that was gnome 1, right?
[04:29] <squid> Fluxbox!!!!
[04:29] <sacarlson> Almagest: can the usb flash disk boot on any other systems?
[04:29] <Almagest> I have not tryed
[04:30] <syslq> bozonius: but try not to get labeled as commie :)
[04:30] <Almagest> I have tryed wiping it and puting ubuntu back onto it several time though
[04:30] <zenlike> bozonius:  to be frank, I've never tried GNOME shell, just have heard people who say they hate Unity like GNOME shell better
[04:30] <Almagest> I am now trying an earler build of ubuntu
[04:30] <MissionControl> was wondering about ubuntu 12.04 multimonitor support and how it will be better than that of 10.04
[04:30] <bozonius> how do I fire up Fluxbox on Ubuntu, and isn't that kind of defeating the whole purpose?
[04:31] <wookienz> squid, thanks got it back. will use the proper method of changing UID next time.
[04:31] <bozonius> I also have Mint in another VM, and it runs just fine.  I like it very much, and I am even debating switching to it from PCLinuxOS
[04:31] <wookienz> sacarlson, thanks all fixed
[04:31] <sacarlson> wookienz: cool
[04:31] <bozonius> Mint is derived from Ubuntu, and seems to work better.  So what happened?
[04:31] <squid> I recommend you check it out first b4 you try it....Fluxbox could be a little weird to some users not use to it...
[04:31] <squid> they have a site and nice doc ...
[04:32] <Almagest> I'be been googling all day and cannot find out what that message means, but there are other people out there with the same problem
[04:32] <bozonius> is there a Ubuntu-fluxbox distro or CD?
[04:32] <squid> excuse my errors...typing very fast
[04:32] <bozonius> np, squid
[04:32] <squid> you could prob...do apt-get install fluxbox
[04:32] <bozonius> just wondering if there is a ready-to-go ubuntu image like kubuntu, only for fluxbox or something else.
[04:33] <bozonius> ok
[04:33] <sacarlson> Almagest: does the usb flash boot on another computer?  what software method did you use to install the iso file on the usb flash disk?
[04:33] <bozonius> will fluxbox then show up as an option at the Gdm login?
[04:33] <squid> yup...
[04:33] <bozonius> great.  I will try that then.  Thanks.
[04:33] <Almagest> UNETBootin as well as Universal
[04:34] <bozonius> syslq:  I am a socialist, commie, or whatever else people care to label me.  I care about people more than I do about profits or the animals that live off other people's labor.
[04:34] <bozonius> but this is not the socialism channel, so...
[04:34] <Ziek> Need help making my wireless belkin G card work
[04:34] <bozonius> let's keep this to ubuntu.
[04:35] <Ziek> any takers?
[04:35] <sacarlson> Almagest: and reading back I don't see what version you have installed.  if you have a system to program the usb flash you should try to test the usb flash boot on that system to isolate the problem
[04:35] <squid> long live mother russia
[04:35] <sacarlson> Almagest: version of ubuntu iso's you tried
[04:36] <bozonius> "mother russia" was not communist or socialist -- it was totalitarian
[04:36] <bozonius> (sorry, squid, with all due respect)
[04:36] <Almagest> 11.5
[04:36] <Almagest> sorry 11.10
[04:37] <squid> ;)
[04:37] <Almagest> 32 and 64 bit
[04:37] <syslq> bozonius: nice to meet you. I'm commie too :)
[04:37] <syslq> bozonius: even lived in communism and was way better than the thing you call democracy
[04:37] <Almagest> I cant test the system because it is not with me, its in a differnt state, im doing all of this by controlling another system from remote and having someone try the USB in the intended CPU
[04:38] <rdw200169> syslq !ot
[04:38] <mundane> so i'm pretty sure i figured out more about my problem if anyone's willing to help
[04:38] <squid> wookienz..good!
[04:38] <Ziek> Having problems connecting on my wireless G card, need urgent help. The card shows up on my "lsusb" command, it is able to view my home network, it is NOT able to connect to it.
[04:38] <sacarlson> Almagest: well then have them try it on the system you use as the remote
[04:39] <ceti331> are there any text editors for linux with windows-style interaction, but argb transpaerency (as per terminal)
[04:39] <squid> ceti331...there are a few
[04:39] <sacarlson> Almagest: I've never seen your problem so I would have to first isolate
[04:39] <squid> nano...cmd
[04:39] <squid> gedit GUI
[04:39] <Lil> Ziek; how can it view the network.. if its not connected to it? Do you mean it can see the network?
[04:39] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to disable popup notifications in Filezilla?
[04:40] <ceti331> squid: nano can display transparent i.e. in the terminal - but the keys are non-windows
[04:40] <squid> Chris....thats in the EDIT tab...click pref
[04:40] <syslq> Ziek: iwconfig output?
[04:40] <ceti331> gedit = opqaue ?
[04:40] <ceti331> whats cmd
[04:40] <Ziek> Lil: Yes, I can see that there is a wireless connect, however I cant connect to it
[04:40] <squid> command line
[04:40] <Almagest> ok ill see if it will work, the system they are running on and that i am controlling is an old XP from 2001.
[04:41] <Almagest> Not sure if the BIOS will have the USB option
[04:41] <squid> ceti331 ...if I was u...I would use gedit
[04:41] <ceti331> i use gedit sure
[04:41] <squid> are u new to linux?
[04:41] <Almagest> Trying to get a newer laptop up and running but making the USB from the older machine.
[04:41] <Almagest> by*
[04:42] <sacarlson> Almagest: oh then maybe you might need something like a 32bit lubuntu iso to test it on that also
[04:42] <ceti331> i use it on and off.. i'm a conditioned windows user, but get nostalgic buzz from anything non-wintel
[04:42] <Ziek> syslq: No such device
[04:42] <bozonius> syslq: may be "called" democracy, but it ain't
[04:42] <squid> anybody need any Cisco help...let me know
[04:42] <ceti331> I am most productive coding with microsoft visual studio under windows
[04:42] <ceti331> but have a perpetual itch to use gnu tools
[04:42] <sacarlson> Almagest: I would start from lubuntu 10.04  32bit  and work up from there if needed
[04:42] <bozonius> squid:  I've got ubuntu running fluxbox.
[04:43] <bozonius> A big menuing system.  Not very sexy.
[04:43] <Almagest> Lubuntu
[04:43] <syslq> bozonius: yeah, it's timocracy
[04:43] <squid> ceti331...I used it be4...kinda cool
[04:43] <Almagest> Ok, thanks
[04:43] <ceti331> I got some joy today using raw GDB a bit
[04:43] <syslq> Ziek: you dont have drivers?
[04:43] <Almagest> If this 10.5 ubuntu doesnt work that will be my next step
[04:43] <bozonius> is Unity usable, short of buying more RAM than the army?
[04:44] <squid> Almagest ... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:44] <syslq> Ziek: lsusb just lists devices connected trough usb, you need drivers in order for your OS to work properly with your hardware
[04:44] <squid> Almagest ... don't do it... man it first
[04:44] <sacarlson> Almagest: a 2001 system I don't think will boot a standard ubuntu 10.04  probly not enuf mem
[04:44] <bozonius> syslq, pm me
[04:44] <ceti331> gedit is cool, one little tweak that would be nice is to remove the tab-bar if only one file is in the window
[04:45] <ceti331> but gedit works well
[04:45] <squid> you can turn on line numbers etc...
[04:45] <ceti331> yes I use that
[04:45] <Almagest> Im trying to boot ubuntu from a LIVE USB onto a 2010 model HP laptop with a dead hard drive, but the BIOS still work, It freezes on the screen with the weird copyright info.
[04:45] <Ziek> syslq:Yes, I have the Cd drivers, but I believe that they are already installed because it showed up usb list. However I just tried to install the drivers via ndisgtk and it says that its an invalid driver
[04:46] <syslq> Ziek: lsusb shows connected hw not the drivers. Which card do you have?
[04:46] <syslq> Ziek: which device I mean
[04:47] <Ziek> Belkin wireless g FSd7050
[04:47] <bozonius> squid: I note that there is a "2D" option besides Fluxbox and Ubuntu.
[04:47] <Ziek> syslq: Belkin wireless G FSD7050
[04:48] <ceti331> i like fluxbox, its a nice minimalist windowmanager
[04:48] <syslq> Ziek: gimme a sec
[04:48] <ceti331> i like the option for mousewheel desktop switching which defaul ubuntu seems to lack
[04:48] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys, when I right click on PHP files I'm not able to select a program I installed, Komodo Edit
[04:49] <sacarlson> Almagest: oh 2010 hp could be a it has an efi bios,  I wonder how those boot from usb
[04:49] <Ziek> syslq: no problem, thanks
[04:49] <faryshta> how do I use the pirate bay magnetic links?
[04:49] <ChrisFromTheBay> Is there an easy way to add a program to a filetype's list of available programs?
[04:49] <ChrisFromTheBay> faryshta: download Transmission or another torrent downloading program, which can open magnet links
[04:49] <syslq> Ziek: I think you need http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/rt73-source
[04:49] <wookienz> faryshta, hardly ubuntu related.
[04:49] <syslq> Ziek: rt73 driver
[04:50] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, I have transmittion installed.
[04:50] <bozonius> Looks like the 2D version runs Ubuntu/Unity whatever it is
[04:50] <pilotbub> transmission comes with ubuntu
[04:50] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, which is the next step?
[04:50] <Lil> faryshta; try #piratebay
[04:50] <pilotbub> wierd icon and all :D
[04:50] <Lil> lol
[04:50] <sacarlson> Ziek: I use 2 devices with rt73 chips both work on 10.04 and 11.10
[04:51] <ChrisFromTheBay> Does anyone know how to add a program to a filetype's (PHP) context menu in Ubuntu?
[04:51] <syslq> Ziek: apt-cache search rt73 should get you somewhere
[04:51] <faryshta> How do I set transmission to open magnetic files?
[04:51] <wookienz> i have upgraded to 12.04 LTS beta but non of the icons up the top notification bar are working. What package is it that runs the so i can reinstall it
[04:51] <ChrisFromTheBay> I'm not sure faryshta
[04:51] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, what do you mean. Open a .php file with nautilus?
[04:52] <ChrisFromTheBay> Well, I'd like to open PHP files with a program, Komodo.
[04:52] <sacarlson> ChrisFromTheBay: I assume from an appache2 server?   just sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[04:53] <syslq> bozonius: ping
[04:53] <Almagest> Sac: not sure but it seems to pick up some info from the USB as the message says Linux
[04:53] <ChrisFromTheBay> My lamp stack is all setup. :) ... I'm trying to edit PHP files with a program I've used on Macs & PCs a lot
[04:53] <Ziek> syslq: It says I have duplicate sources that "you may want to run sud apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:53] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, right-click any .php file and choose 'open with another program'
[04:53] <faryshta> How do I set transmission to open magnetic files?
[04:53] <sacarlson> ChrisFromTheBay: oh from the command line with no appache2?  then just install php5-cli
[04:54] <syslq> Ziek: you should actually always do apt-get update before that, it updates you package index
[04:54] <Ziek> sacarlson: Any specific command that might get me that package download
[04:54] <syslq> Ziek: so try that first and let me know
[04:54] <ChrisFromTheBay> I clicked "open with another program", and Komodo Edit isn't on the list of All Programs that can open it. :(
[04:54] <sacarlson> Ziek: it was plug and play so what problems are you having?  is your network encrypted?  if so you will need wpa-supplicant
[04:54] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, then choose the 'use command' and put komodo or whatever the command for komodo is.
[04:55] <Ziek> syslq: Ok, ran it first, then the search and it says the same thing
[04:55] <sacarlson> Ziek: also try wicd gui as it has more options
[04:56] <faryshta> How do I open magnetic files using transmission?
[04:56] <ChrisFromTheBay> faryshta: Thanks, how could I chose "use command", should that be in a list alongside the other programs?
[04:56] <Ziek> sacarlson: Yes my network is encrypted
[04:56] <ChrisFromTheBay> faryshta, did you open Transmission?
[04:56] <Ziek> sacarlson: I'm sorry I am not familiar with wpa-supplicant
[04:56] <sacarlson> Ziek: oh but I read up and see you see no device at all?  like with iwconfig?
[04:57] <Lil> faryshta; must you repeat the same question several times? Not sure if you noticed, but this is called #ubuntu .. and your piratebay questions don't really relate to ubuntu.
[04:57] <syslq> Ziek: what exactly does apt-cache search r73 returns?
[04:57] <sacarlson> Ziek: with wicd you won't have to know much about it,  it takes care of it for you
[04:57] <Lil> faryshta; use google for your question, it'll be much quicker then repeating it 100 times in here.
[04:57] <ChrisFromTheBay> faryshta: I just clicked a magnet link on PB, and it asked if I wanted to open with Transmission : http://thepiratebay.se/search/linux/0/99/0
[04:57] <squid> apt-cache search simply send queries to the apt- server...it won't install anything
[04:58] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, I have transmission open. For komodo, you won't need to do anything. From now on it will be available when you right-click.
[04:58] <Ziek> sacarlson: No wireless extension shows up
[04:58] <faryshta> Lil, you are not helping but thanks anyway.
[04:58] <Ziek> sacarlson: wait
[04:58] <sacarlson> Ziek: oh maybe I did install firmware
[04:58] <Ziek> sacarlson: IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:off/any   Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=20 dBm    Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off Power Management:on
[04:58] <squid> Ziek...try this lspci | grep Wireless
[04:59] <sacarlson> ziek: ok then it's working fine
[04:59] <squid> Ziek... or try this lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:59] <pilotbub> the solution for all wifi problems: 1. Reboot 2. Select Windows at GRUB
[04:59] <Ziek> syslq: The search returns the message I typed before about the duplicates
[04:59] <Almagest> might try to boot windows 8 from USB if this doesnt work.
[04:59] <faryshta> Lil, How do I open magnetic files using transmission?
[05:00] <syslq> Ziek: I'm guessing if you search for anything else (apt-cache search irssi) for instance you get the same result?
[05:00] <sacarlson> Ziek: I've never tested rt73 with wpa my access point will only do wep so if wicd can't connect to it try disable your encryption on your access point to isolate it to that
[05:01] <Ziek> squid: 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[05:01] <squid> Ziek... you didn't get anything for the Wireless?
[05:01] <Ziek> syslq: Correct.
[05:02] <ChrisFromTheBay> faryshta: Try using Firefox to click the magnet link. I just did for a Linux distro magnet link... and it popped up asking if I wanted to open with Transmission
[05:02] <Ziek> syslq: irssi - terminal based IRC client
[05:02] <Ziek> irssi-dev - terminal based IRC client - development files
[05:02] <Ziek> ekg - console Gadu Gadu client for UNIX systems
[05:02] <Ziek> irssi-plugin-otr - Off-the-Record Messaging Plugin for Irssi
[05:02] <Ziek> irssi-plugin-xmpp - XMPP plugin for irssi
[05:02] <Ziek> irssi-plugin-xmpp-dbg - XMPP plugin for irssi - Debugging symbols
[05:02] <FloodBot1> Ziek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <sacarlson> Ziek: oh you see it in iwconfig but not in ifconfig?  then bring the device up like sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:02] <squid> Ziek...please use paste.ubuntu.com
[05:03] <squid> no disrecpect
[05:03] <squid> disrespect
[05:03] <faryshta> ChrisFromTheBay, thanks let me try.
[05:04] <Ziek> squid: Sorry im nto familiar with that option for pasting
[05:04] <faryshta> Lil, saying 'just google it' isn't helping. If I am here it means that Google wasn't helpful.
[05:04] <squid> I wasn't until two days ago...
[05:04] <squid> I pissed a bunch of people off
[05:05] <squid> created an script for some user and pasted here
[05:05] <Lil> faryshta; Not sure why you think these questions are OK for #ubuntu .. but whatever floats your boat man.
[05:06] <sacarlson> ziek: I hope you tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up;  as I'm getting confused what irc has to do with wifi connection so I might be on the wrong page for you
[05:06] <squid> basically...the site is used to paste your code or w.e and then it will generate a hyper-link that you can to copy and paste...something similar to what Twitter does
[05:06] <Ziek> sacarlson: yes i see alot off info for ifconfig
[05:07] <sacarlson> ziek: so you see that wlan0 is up then?
[05:07] <Ziek> sacarlson: how can i tell?
[05:07] <sacarlson> Ziek: if you already tried to connect in network-manager and that failed I would install wicd
[05:07] <ceti331> can compiz do argb alpha blending
[05:08] <ceti331> instead of uniform alpha
[05:08] <Ziek> squid: ok thanks
[05:08] <sacarlson> ziek: I guess with  ifconfig | grep wlan ; would tell if it's seen at all
[05:08] <faryshta> Lil, can you point me which of this I broke? http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct did you broke any of these yourself?
[05:09] <Ziek> sacarlson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/932093/
[05:09] <squid> Ziek .. :D lol
[05:10] <edbian> How can I convert x264 video to xvid or something easier for my processor to play using ffmpeg?
[05:10] <Ziek> squid: what? :) I used the paste thing
[05:10] <sacarlson> Ziek: so this line wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:50:6a:53:6f     shows you have a working wifi device,  did you try network-manager?
[05:11] <Lil> faryshta; You broke none of them, nor did I. However, this channel is for ubuntu related discussion. Your pirate bay question hardly relates to ubuntu.
[05:11] <scientes> unity wont start
[05:11] <scientes> i have to use unity-2d
[05:11] <scientes> or gnome classic
[05:11] <Ziek> sacarlson: Yes ethernet does showup in the network manager aswell as the wireless connection
[05:11] <scientes> i get Window manager warning: Log level 16: Unable to register authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject
[05:11] <scientes> Window manager warning: Log level 16: Error registering polkit authentication agent: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: An authentication agent already exists for the given subject (polkit-error-quark 0)
[05:11] <sacarlson> Ziek: ok and you see your access point?  and tried to connect to it?
[05:11] <scientes> when i run gnome-shell --replace
[05:11] <Ziek> sacarlson: after clicking on it to conenct it "attempts" to connect, but does not
[05:12] <Lil> faryshta; I already PM'd you a google link that answers your question. Don't be lazy. I have had that problem before, and google answered it with the link I gave you.
[05:12] <mikeliss> Anybody familiar with setting xmx for java?
[05:12] <sacarlson> Ziek: it should have asked for a password if it's encrypted,  so best try install wicd then,   apt-get install wicd
[05:13] <Ziek> sacarlson: It asked the password. After it is provided it is still unable to connect. And trust me (it is well written)
[05:13] <faryshta> Lil, as I said. If I am here it means that google wasn't helpful.
[05:13] <sacarlson> Ziek: and be sure you have the correct password to connect
[05:13] <squid> Ziek..yea
[05:13] <sacarlson> Ziek: I would try wicd
[05:14] <sacarlson> Ziek: if that fails isolate down to if it's an encyption problem by disabling encyrption in your access point
[05:14] <faryshta> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines Lil you might want to read this
[05:14] <faryshta> Lil,  you are breaking the guidelines of this IRC.
[05:15] <Ziek> sacarlson: It says i should be added to "netdev" what am i getting into?
[05:15] <squid> faryshta are you the supervisor of the iRC?
[05:16] <Lil> faryshta; Apparently you haven't read it.. Or you wouldn't continue to post your question several times. Then expect someone to hold your hand and help.
[05:16] <sacarlson> Ziek: oh maybe your user doen't have privliges to connect  to networks
[05:16] <squid> Lil Wayne
[05:16] <faryshta> Lil, you are still not helping anyone here.
[05:17] <Ziek> sacarlson: here is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/932098/
[05:17] <squid> uh oh
[05:17] <sacarlson> Ziek: then you will want to look at user groups  with users-admin
[05:18] <Ziek> sacarlson: you lost me...
[05:18] <squid> Ziek...visudo
[05:18] <Lil> faryshta; I have helped.. even when the question wasn't related to ubuntu.
[05:18] <faryshta> Lil, no you didn't. You didn't help me and you aren't helping others either.
[05:18] <sacarlson> Ziek: that looks ok,  so did you try run wicd then?
[05:18] <squid> Ziek...then ... %ziek ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:19] <sacarlson> Ziek: ya just run wicd with sudo to try it
[05:20] <Ziek> sacarlson: it does nothing
[05:22] <sacarlson> Ziek: you ran gksudo wicd in a term?  did you see any errors?
[05:23] <Ziek> sacarlson: none
[05:23] <sacarlson> Ziek: I'm not sure,  check in synaptic to see if wicd installed
[05:23] <HackNewton> hello all
[05:23] <sacarlson> Ziek: I didn't see any error in install that should have stoped it
[05:24] <edbian> How can I convert h264 video to something easier to play using ffmpeg?
[05:25] <Ziek> sacarlson: Yes it is here.
[05:25] <pilotbub> edbian find a better player
[05:26] <edbian>   pilotbub can you suggest something?  I've tried totem and vlc, both play choppy.  I'm pretty sure it's my netbooks processor that's too slow.  Why is converting using ffmpeg a bad idea?
[05:27] <pilotbub> if your CPU cant handle playing it how well do you think it will convert? Look into CorePlayer
[05:27] <Ziek> sacarlson: I noticed 1 error when installing go back to the paste.ubuntu look down at the  * Starting Network connection manager wicd                              [fail]
[05:28] <Debolaz> edbian: http://handbrake.fr/
[05:28] <edbian> pilotbub, It can convert just fine.  It will take a long time, but the quality will remain.  Some codecs are more processor intensive to play than others.
[05:28] <edbian> Debolaz, why this and not ffmpeg?
[05:28] <Debolaz> pilotbub: h264 is significantly more cpu hungry than xvid, its a good chance xvid will play just fine.
[05:28] <edbian> Debolaz, is handbrake in the repos?
[05:28] <edbian> xvid does play fine
[05:28] <Debolaz> edbian: Handbrake is easier to use.
[05:29] <edbian> Debolaz, is it in the repos?
[05:29] <pilotbub> enjoy those 48 hour conversions...
[05:29] <edbian> pilotbub, better than not playing things at all! :P
[05:29] <sacarlson> ziek:  try reboot and see if the error repeats
[05:29] <pilotbub> hey if youre into that more power to you
[05:29] <Ziek> sacarlson: ok brb
[05:29] <Debolaz> edbian: https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-releases
[05:29] <edbian> so it's not in the repos...
[05:30] <Debolaz> Allergic to ppas? :)
[05:30] <Debolaz> It's in a PPA repo, is that a bad thing?
[05:30] <edbian> well
[05:30] <edbian> I would have preferred being in repos...
[05:30] <Debolaz> Why?
[05:30] <edbian> Then I don't need to worry about it when I upgrade releases
[05:31] <edbian> Debolaz, thanks for the help :)
[05:31] <edbian> pilotbub, thank you as well
[05:32] <HackNewton> does anyone know when final release of Precise will launch ?
[05:32] <pilotbub> yw
[05:32] <pilotbub> soon
[05:32] <pilotbub> #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <Debolaz> 26th I think
[05:33] <Debolaz> Hmm, 28th it seems. :)
[05:34] <ziek> sacarlson: back
[05:36] <ziek> sacarlson: now its worse, i cant see any wireless network
[05:38] <sacarlson> ziek: bring it up with sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:38] <pilotbub> Don't worry Wireless will be supported on Ubuntu 25
[05:38] <KM0201> pilotbub: ? wireless works fine with most devices...
[05:39] <ziek> sacarlson: O_O wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[05:39] <sacarlson> ziek: oh try iwconfig  see if the number changed
[05:40] <ziek> sacarlson: lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:40] <ChrisFromTheBay> Hey guys. I right click PHP files, and it isn't showing my favorite text editor as an eligible from to open the file with. I want to set it to the default. Suggestions? Thanks
[05:40] <ziek> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:40] <pavlz> hi
[05:40] <ziek> eth0      no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions
[05:41] <ziek> sacarlson: lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:41] <pavlz> i got my e-mail on @gmail.com, i would to download my e-mailes on my hdd, how can i do it by shell ?
[05:41] <ziek> eth0      no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions
[05:41] <Areckx> trying to install im-ja
[05:41] <Areckx> so I can input Japanese
[05:42] <sacarlson> ziek: unplug and replug your device and try again
[05:44] <ziek> sacarlson: still, nothing
[05:45] <sacarlson> ziek: also try another usb port
[05:46] <sacarlson> ziek: not sure how it could have worked before and not now.  so also verify the device is still seen with lsusb
[05:48] <ChrisFromTheBay> does anyone know how to change the default application that opens a type of files?
[05:49] <KM0201> ChrisFromTheBay: most of the time, right click the filetype, click the 'Open With' tab (or something like that)... and choose the program
[05:49] <ziek> sacarlson: Yes it is seen in lsusb, however now it does not show any wirelles network nor the led blinks
[05:49] <ziek> sacarlson: its like its dead
[05:49] <KM0201> ChrisFromTheBay: least thtas how i remember it.. been a while since i used Gnome
[05:49] <ChrisFromTheBay> KMO201: Thanks. What if the program doesn't show up in the list?
[05:49] <sacarlson> ziek: and nothing seen with iwconfig?
[05:49] <KM0201> ChrisFromTheBay: isn't there an "add" button?
[05:50] <ziek> sacarlson: no wireless extensions
[05:50] <sacarlson> ziek: ok we should look in /var/log/syslog  file to see what kind of a problem it sees
[05:50] <tomgeorge> Need help on Glade Interface Designer...
[05:51] <ChrisFromTheBay> KMO201: There is an add button, but it's not showing my desired program in the list of applications that button can add.
[05:51] <sacarlson> ziek: is this a dual boot system windows and linux?
[05:51] <tomgeorge> I always end up with Cannot find Glade XML Object error
[05:52] <ziek> sacarlson: yes its a dual boot
[05:52] <sacarlson> ziek: that might explain why it worked then stoped,  as windows would have installed the firmware and linux might keep the firmware in untill powered off or unpluged
[05:53] <sacarlson> ziek: so we should also check to see you have the firmware package installed,  I have to lookup the name
[05:55] <ziek> sacarlson: Well thats the thing I dont have this wireless card installed in windows either
[05:56] <sacarlson> ziek: there is a package rt73-common that has updated firmware
[05:56] <Areckx> anyone can help me with im-ja?
[05:56] <Areckx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ImJa
[05:57] <ziek> sacarlson: throw me the command
[05:57] <sacarlson> ziek: sudo apt-get install rt73-common ;
[06:01] <scientes> where can i get old kernel packages?
[06:02] <scientes> i need linux-headers-3.2.0-19
[06:04] <Abhijit> scientes, may be kerner.org
[06:04] <Abhijit> kerne
[06:04] <Abhijit> kernel
[06:04] <scientes> you mean kernel.org
[06:05] <scientes> no, this is a specific precise kernel
[06:05] <Abhijit> yeah
[06:05] <scientes> ive got a regression
[06:05] <Abhijit> scientes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <Abhijit> for precise editon help
[06:09] <ohptlabs> alright so ive been using transmission for a few  weeks now and ever couple of days it tells me that movies and shows ive watched and were fine, suddenly have a piece or two that is corrupt
[06:11] <ohptlabs> anyone have any ideas? the files are being saved toa  1Tb usb drive
[06:12] <scientes> ohptlabs, look at dmesg
[06:12] <scientes> ohptlabs, is it a usb hard drive?
[06:12] <scientes> and are you cold booting it (pulling the plug without unmounting it)
[06:14] <ohptlabs> scientes, the dmesg looked normal, its booted and shut down with the computer
[06:14] <JoeR1> Ok, what does this mean? Process /usr/bin/Thunar received signal 11
[06:14] <ohptlabs> scientes, yes it a usb harddrive
[06:15] <scientes> ohptlabs, usb hard drives are very sensitive to hard shutdowns, you have to make sure to unmount it from nautilus before unplugging it, or only unplugging it when the computer is shut down (and shutting down the computer gracefully)
[06:15] <pilotbub> could be a fluke just rehash the torrent and dl the missing pieces whats the prob bob
[06:16] <ohptlabs> pilotbub, yes thats what ive been doing however its weird that i keep having to do this with 100 things im seeding
[06:17] <pilotbub> well linux + 100 seeding torrents = shake territory
[06:17] <scientes> eSATA is really much better if you can get that
[06:17] <scientes> as usb 2.0 doesn't support spinning down hard drives either
[06:17] <ohptlabs> pilotbub, i guess just dont understand how ive viewed them, they were fine, i havent touched them and yet its telling me a piece of a complete file is corrupt
[06:17] <ohptlabs> hmmm i see.
[06:18] <pilotbub> yeah update your transmission is all I can suggest
[06:18] <ohptlabs> should i just rip open the usb harddrive and put it in my computer
[06:18] <pilotbub> thats an approach
[06:21] <ohptlabs> pilotbub, is there anyway the file isnt actually corrupt and its just transmission being lame?
[06:21] <Areckx> I am having issues with iBus
[06:22] <Areckx> I added anthy japanese input
[06:22] <Areckx> and am unable to convert hiragana to kanji using space
[06:22] <scientes> Areckx, #ibus
[06:22] <pilotbub> id say thats the likelier option if youre using a reputable tracker
[06:22] <scientes> Areckx, gnome 3 breaks alot of stuff
[06:23] <ohptlabs> pilotbub, not to sound ignorant, but how can itell if a tracker is reputable?
[06:24] <pilotbub> general rule: something well known like ubuntu or other distro trackers
[06:24] <pilotbub> transmission like all software isnt perfect
[06:25] <Abhijit> scientes, no it wont. its unity who breaks everything
[06:25] <pilotbub> can no one see the irony
[06:25] <ohptlabs> i can :)
[06:26] <scientes> Abhijit, unity is gtk 3
[06:26] <scientes> Abhijit, but yeah gnome-shell MIGHT be better gtk 3
[06:26] <MissionControl> unity is supposed to have better multi-monitor support and if it works for my setup then I'm all for unity
[06:26] <ohptlabs> pilotbub, yeahim not sure actually since i dont think most dist track classic films which is what ive been seeding
[06:26] <pilotbub> all you can do is update your client and OS
[06:27] <pilotbub> submit a bug report
[06:27] <pilotbub> transmission team is pretty active and will probably respond
[06:27] <pilotbub> ubuntu is a big distro for them
[06:27] <pilotbub> if youre not happy they want to know why
[06:27] <Abhijit> scientes, whatever. its unity who breaks everything
[06:28] <MissionControl> oldie has joined?
[06:28] <scientes> Abhijit, I dont like unity, but the move from gtk 2 to gtk 3 breaks alot of stuff
[06:28] <Abhijit> ok!
[06:28] <ohptlabs> alright i shall do so, im using the LTS of ubuntu, so im guessing ill have to get a much newer version of transmission too
[06:30] <pilotbub> not to go OT but give precise a while who knows maybe they patched your issue already
[06:30] <pilotbub> whirl*
[06:31] <lolmaus> Hi! What command do i have to run to update the init system after creating a new Upstart config (/etc/init/foo.conf)?
[06:33] <bozonius> if we have trouble running Unity, can we run Disunity instead?
[06:33] <pilotbub> lolmaus, try Function+3+K
[06:33] <pilotbub> but Unity break everything!
[06:35] <adac> How to get virtualbox in full screen mode?
[06:35] <bozonius> what is the advantage of running Ubuntu, esp. 11.10, if Unity, its showcase feature causes so many issues for so many people?
[06:35] <pilotbub> adac, try Function+3+K
[06:36] <bozonius> adac, you should join #vbox
[06:36] <bozonius> but, yes, F3K should work
[06:36] <bozonius> try Hostkey+F
[06:37] <rumpe1> bozonius, it's the newest release. That's the advantage.
[06:37] <adac> pilotbub, I try, but first I need to know how to switch back to normal screen :D
[06:37] <bozonius> newest release.
[06:37] <bozonius> same command, adac.
[06:37] <bozonius> Hostkey+F
[06:37] <adac> bozonius, is hostkey the "windows" key?
[06:37] <bozonius> will toggle back and forth between full screen
[06:37] <bozonius> it depends how your vbox VM is configured
[06:38] <bozonius> I think -- on Linux at least -- it is the left alt key by default.
[06:38] <bozonius> but you really should consult someone on #vbox for virtualbox-related questions.
[06:38] <nesusvet> Host, key is the windows key as usual
[06:39] <adac> nesusvet, well with the windows key i get the ubuntu menu
[06:39] <nesusvet> For the VBOX it's a right ctrl
[06:39] <lolmaus> pilotbub, wut? I'm in console.
[06:39] <adac> yes it was the right ctrl + f
[06:39] <adac> thank you guys
[06:40] <pilotbub> lolmaus, try curl -s 22.44.342.44 -xfg
[06:41] <bozonius> rumpel:  Unity slows down my entire system!  Even if it IS the latest release.
[06:41] <pilotbub> that should link you up to the mainframe and commence the launch
[06:41] <bozonius> or is it rumpe1?
[06:41] <rumpe1> bozonius, then use something different
[06:41] <rumpe1> bozonius, nobody is forced to use unity
[06:41] <bozonius> I do.  I wanted to try Ubuntu because so many people are raving about it.
[06:41] <pilotbub> just use W8
[06:42] <pilotbub> when it comes to Linux I say go modern or go back to retail
[06:42] <bozonius> OK, but why use, say, openbox instead of Unity on Ubuntu?  why not use some other distro altogether?  That's what I am asking.
[06:42] <bozonius> I don't have Windows here.
[06:42] <rumpe1> bozonius, i mean: unity is just a suggestion for a desktop environment. You still have the choice of many other desktop environments, you could install and use.
[06:42] <pilotbub> if i want to use gnome I'd ride a time machine back to win 95
[06:42] <bozonius> I know that.
[06:43] <bozonius> I am allergic to all Microsoft products.  I am unable to use them without serious side effects.
[06:43] <bozonius> But there are literally 100's of Linux Distros.
[06:43] <pilotbub> 1000s
[06:43] <pilotbub> 100s active
[06:44] <bozonius> My question is, how can Ubuntu make the argument for itself if its premier product does not play well for people who don't have the hardware to support it?
[06:44] <pilotbub> end user linux will have it time in the sun but that time has not yet arrived
[06:44] <bozonius> I have 4G of ram and a dual core CPU
[06:44] <bozonius> I feel that should be plenty.
[06:45] <bozonius> pilotbub, I am not meaning to argue with you, honestly.
[06:45] <pilotbub> the ubuntu pipe dream is that people with adequate hw will choose Unity over Win
[06:45] <bozonius> I am sure the Ubuntu devs are proud of unity, and they should be
[06:45] <bozonius> when it does play, it plays very nicely.
[06:46] <bozonius> trouble is, Mint (a sort of modified ubuntu) does not have this issue.  of course, it does not have unity (at least not out of box)
[06:46] <bozonius> but Mint's interface is also very nice and easy to use.
[06:46] <pilotbub> its got cinnamon but mint also suffers stability issues
[06:46] <bozonius> and I believe you are correct:  Ubuntu is better than Windows
[06:46] <bozonius> for the same hardware
[06:46] <bozonius> whatever that hardware is.
[06:47] <pilotbub> as a blanket statement id have to say you were mad but it has its strengths in certain areas
[06:47] <bozonius> then again, a Hyundai is better than a Yugo.
[06:47] <bozonius> oh, I'm not mad.
[06:47] <pilotbub> as an end user platform linux just isnt there yet
[06:47] <bozonius> not at you.
[06:47] <pilotbub> the question is will it ever be
[06:47] <bozonius> pilotbub, have you tried PCLinuxOS?
[06:47] <pilotbub> no
[06:48] <bozonius> if you get the bandwidth/are bored sometime/have nothing else to do
[06:48] <bozonius> try it out.
[06:48] <bozonius> I think it plays comparatively well against Windows.
[06:48] <pilotbub> ive tried out mint cinnamon and ubuntu 12 recently when my linux patience is restored ill do Fed 17 but I dunno about PCLinuxOS it just sounds terrible
[06:49] <bozonius> it doesn't have the "let me guess what the user will do next" unity software, but it is a sufficient improvement over Windows of any kind.
[06:49] <kcin> hi, is there any extension for libreoffice so it makes sound when i type? ^_^
[06:49] <pilotbub> probably
[06:49] <bozonius> I've been using PCLinuxOS for about 8 years I think (since its pre-release versions) and I've had very good luck with it.
[06:50] <pilotbub> ill look into it i have heard of it but the name kept me awa
[06:50] <bozonius> why does PCLinuxOS sound terrible?
[06:50] <pilotbub> just sort of generic and uncreative
[06:50] <ServerCrash> hi does anyone knows how to verify if the attached Screen is HDCP compliant or not
[06:50] <bozonius> it started out as a Mandriva/Connectiva branch and merger, but it has evolved quite a bit in its own direction
[06:50] <pilotbub> ComputerOperatingSystem2012
[06:51] <bozonius> :)
[06:51] <pilotbub> theres always mageia 2
[06:51] <bozonius> I hear you.
[06:51] <bozonius> well, I'll continue trying out Ubuntu in 2D, with CPU throttling under VBox
[06:52] <bozonius> I'll check back after I've played with it a while.
[06:52] <pilotbub> you must be suffering in vbox I couldnt take it baremetal
[06:52] <pilotbub> alright good luck
[06:52]  * Debolaz runs Unity 3D in VirtualBox.
[06:52] <Debolaz> Works fine for me. :)
[06:53] <Debolaz> But it requires a) 3D acceleration to be enabled and b) Guest additions to be installed properly.
[06:54] <bozonius> I did all that.  Someone told me I should consider giving the VM 3G! out of my 4G
[06:54] <bozonius> I think that is excessive for Linux.
[06:54] <bozonius> Most Linux distros I run do fine in 1G or less.
[06:55] <bozonius> and that's with FF and other heavy apps running.
[06:55] <bozonius> I keep 30 or 40 tabs open at the same time
[06:56] <beatlemonster> I was resizing a partition in my hd when the light went off. How can recover my files?
[06:56] <scientes> Debolaz, fedora is using llvmpipe so you dont need any 3d acceleration at all, its all done in the CPU
[06:57] <mac_> GameOver>
[06:57] <Debolaz> Fedora would be a nice thing if it was debian based. ;-)
[06:58] <scientes> Debolaz, no reason we cant use llvmpipe mesa too
[06:58] <scientes> itsa upstream
[06:58] <bozonius> scientes, would that address the performance issue of unity?
[06:58] <bozonius> (I really am not familiar with this area)
[06:58] <scientes> bozonius, no, not at all, it just puts more load on the CPU
 agree
[06:59] <bozonius> so what is it you are saying about llvmpipe?
[06:59] <tarathiel> hello, how to change g++'s include dir?
[07:00] <bozonius> (for the clueless, please)
[07:00] <mac_> request join my page http://www.facebook.com/unixarmy
[07:00] <bozonius> before I enlist, can I ask a question?
[07:00] <anakapeng_> hi everybody
[07:00] <mac_> hi
[07:01] <bozonius> Debolaz, how much memory is your ubuntu/unity install running with?
[07:02] <bozonius> I gave mine 1G
[07:02] <Debolaz> 1 GB. But I'm not doing that much heavy stuff on it.
[07:02] <bozonius> I wasn't either.
[07:02] <Debolaz> Just got a few tabs on FF, etc.
[07:02] <bozonius> had a couple of tabs open in F
[07:02] <bozonius> yeah
[07:02] <bozonius> same here
[07:02] <anakapeng_> i have a question concerning the registration of a nickname, is here anybody how can help me?
[07:02] <bozonius> but it was slowing the hardware down.  Even my host could barely catch a breath of CPU cycles
[07:02] <Abhijit> anakapeng_, #freenode
[07:02] <gnuskool> hi, my ubuntu server which server a alocal lan suddenly went offline over the weekend. I rebooted and now is all ok, but where do i check to see what caused this, are there certain log files to look at ?
[07:03] <bozonius> anakapeng_:  /join #freenode
[07:03] <mac_> by
[07:03] <wolfslord> Does anyone have a clue on how can I recover files from a corrupted partition fliesystem? Any help welcome
[07:04] <bozonius> restore from backup?
[07:04] <wolfslord> Wish i had
[07:04] <bozonius> fsck?
[07:04] <ohptlabs> arg, my transmission is at 2.33 because im still on the LTS release, however the source code for it is at 2.51... if i was going to roll it by hand, how much of the previous version should i remove if any?
[07:04] <Dryanta> hi everybody
[07:05] <wolfslord> Fsck wont work. It is sayng the block something is corrupted
[07:05] <scientes> wolfbyte, what filesystem?
[07:05] <wolfslord> Ext4
[07:06] <scientes> wolfbyte, you can use an alternate superblock
[07:06] <scientes> however i dont know much about that
[07:06] <wolfslord> I was resizing it when the power went off
 will fsck  remove my hard disk errors?
[07:07] <wolfslord> I dont know about that either. I tried some but no luck
[07:07] <Dryanta> i cant get the ubuntu livecd to run on my laptop
 I was resizing it when the power went off
[07:07] <scientes> ouch
[07:07] <Dryanta> have a amd/ati hybrid graphics
[07:08] <wolfslord> If i create a new pertition with gparted, will it erase everything in it?
[07:08] <ohptlabs> Dryanta, you try booting it with some of the other video options?
[07:09] <Dryanta> ohptlabs: unaware as to how to do so
[07:09] <KM0201> wolfslord: well if you "create" a partition, it will be blank
[07:09] <Dryanta> only linux i have gotten to work with the graphics is slitaz
[07:09] <Dryanta> and that took a hell of a lot of work :p
[07:09] <Dryanta> but cant seem to get my wifi to work
[07:10] <Dryanta> this hp pavilion g7 is a bitch hardware wise
[07:10] <wolfslord> If i create it is there any way i can recover the files that were in it using some program, if yes which program should i use
[07:11] <ohptlabs> Dryanta, when it has the list of options move you keyboard to the bottom one i believe and you'll be able to type things in the command that the cd uses when booting
[07:11] <KM0201> wolfslord: you're not making sense... if you 'create' a partition, it is blan
[07:11] <KM0201> *blank
[07:12] <Dryanta> i didnt have a list of options
[07:12] <Dryanta> goes to a splash screen then blank almost immediately
[07:12] <wolfslord> Ok. But, will the files be there on disk just marked as blank or will the entire disk be phisicaly erased?
[07:12] <ohptlabs> KM0201, well.. kind of? if thre was already information there and yu just repartion but dont reformat then the information is technically still there, even if it may be unreadable
[07:13] <ohptlabs> Dryanta, hmm.. last ubuntu i installed was i believe lubuntu 11.10
[07:13] <KM0201> wolfslord: what are you trying to do?.. cuz i can't make any sense of your questions
[07:13] <KM0201> ohptlabs: i wasn't going to complicate the discussion any further
[07:13] <ohptlabs> KM0201, sawie >_<
[07:14] <wolfslord> I was resizing my disk and the power went off. I cant reach my files and i wnat to know if there is any way i can do this
[07:14] <DrManhattan> how do I get 11.10 installed on nvraid?
[07:14] <DrManhattan> it can't install the bootloader
[07:14] <KM0201> wolfslord: ah ok.. yeah, sorry i don't know about that one
[07:15] <wolfslord> Yeah i guess im with no luck. Thanks anyway.
[07:16] <bozonius> well, Ubuntu 2D is even slowing my system down.  I know it is Ubuntu, because it was only after I started using it that the system's performance took a hit.
[07:17] <bozonius> guess I will have to order more memory after all...
[07:19] <ohptlabs> bozonius, or try lubuntu
[07:24] <ohptlabs> so im in the process of rolling my own transmission for source, however should i remove  the install packages from 2.33 first since im rolling 2.51?
[07:26] <timing> Hi all, how do I disable unity in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:29] <nunnsby> hey all
[07:30] <nunnsby> I want to build a server using 2 partitions: 1 for OS and 1 for data
[07:30] <nunnsby> data would be syslogging and mysql database
[07:30] <nunnsby> only ever used a single drive and / as mount opint
[07:30] <nunnsby> *point
[07:31] <nunnsby> what would be the best route of creating the mount points and what would I point where?
[07:31] <nunnsby> for the syslog
[07:31] <nunnsby> but for mysql?
[07:31] <nunnsby> not sure
[07:31] <nunnsby> will use mysql from apt, so not certain on how to split mount points
[07:31] <nunnsby> any advice?
[07:32] <bluefrog> one partition/disk for /var
[07:32] <nunnsby> will point var to data patition
[07:32] <nunnsby> cool, will mysql be in there aswell by default?
[07:34] <nunnsby> var that is?
[07:36] <bluefrog> /var/lib/mysql/
[07:36] <peppe__> ciao
[07:36] <peppe__> !list
[07:43] <nunnsby> bluefroh: thanks. appreciated! :)
[07:44] <nunnsby> *bluefrog: tx - lol
[07:45] <nunnsby> another question ... in todays day and age of having plenty of memory ... is a swap file really needed?
[07:45] <l1nr007> Hello,.. when I run "who" command.. it get the host name instead of the ip-address.. how can I get the ip address ?
[07:45] <Areckx> I'm having problems with java
[07:45] <Areckx> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#selfextracting
[07:45] <Areckx> I did everything there
[07:45] <backbox> ello
[07:45] <nunnsby> if I have a server with 4 gigs of mem, and it is unlikely that will be an issue, is a swap file needeed?
[07:46] <Areckx> for chromium
[07:48] <l1nr007> hello,..
[07:48] <backbox> how to get wifi hidden pasword
[07:49] <bluefrog> backbox, ask the owner of the wifi access point
[07:49] <NeoDestruction> Hi im having trouble watching flash video's. Every-time i watch a vid like youtube or dailymotion the sound goes ahead than the video its self. and when i pause the video the images (or video) from the vids continues to play for 2 sec then stops.
[07:50] <backbox> ops... that my 1st time using ubuntu
[07:50] <backbox> my laptop cannot read wifi coverage it`s im using the ubuntu
[07:51] <faryshta> backbox, so you are asking why your wifi isn't working?
[07:51] <backbox> but is same time im using windows...my wifi can be reach
[07:51] <backbox> ya ya
[07:51] <faryshta> backbox, can you open a terminal?
[07:51] <backbox> can
[07:52] <backbox> <== new ubuntu user
[07:52] <rdz> hi all. how can i send a html file as mail with evolution without evolution reformatting it?
[07:52] <faryshta> backbox, Go to the menu->accesories->terminal
[07:53] <backbox> then
[07:53] <faryshta> a window with something a command shell will appear
[07:53] <faryshta> there write: iwlist
[07:54] <backbox> then
[07:54] <faryshta> then write: iwconfig
[07:54] <faryshta> and copy the result here please.
[07:55] <backbox> Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]
[07:55] <backbox>               [interface] frequency
[07:55] <backbox>               [interface] channel
[07:55] <backbox>               [interface] bitrate
[07:55] <backbox>               [interface] rate
[07:55] <backbox>               [interface] encryption
[07:55] <FloodBot1> backbox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <faryshta> nunnsby, the swap file is needed for hibernation.
[07:56] <l1nr007> When i'm using "who" command to see who is logged-in,.. it gives me the hostnames.. how can I get the ip-address instead ?
[07:56] <hyperstation> hallo
[08:01] <faryshta> which is the command to open the restricted drivers dialog?
[08:07] <Boneripper> hey guys
[08:08] <Boneripper> ubuntu laptop not connecting to my hm network but surfing is fine.. any ideas please?
[08:10] <domsom> what's hm network?
[08:10] <Boneripper_> home
[08:11] <domsom> what's "not connecting"? to what?
[08:12] <Boneripper_> ubuntu laptop is NOT connecting to the home network but it is connecting to the internet fine
[08:12] <domsom> using the same connection? e.g. wifi?
[08:12] <Boneripper_> CAT5 to the router
[08:13] <domsom> what are you trying to connect to on your home network?
[08:13] <Boneripper_> just trying to access files
[08:13] <Boneripper_> i  have windows shares setup on the main PC running XP
[08:14] <Boneripper_> trying to get files off that... it was working fine till yesterday
[08:14] <domsom> can you access them from another box?
[08:14] <Boneripper_> hmmm wait
[08:14] <domsom> box or laptop or whatever
[08:15] <Boneripper_> from another ubuntu laptop, no it doesnt
[08:15] <Boneripper_> either
[08:16] <Boneripper_> cant ping the computer from either the laptops also
[08:16] <domsom> then it's probably the XP box
[08:16] <jkitzenabelson> how do i authenticate my log in?
[08:17] <Boneripper_> hmmm ok
[08:17] <Boneripper_> interesting.. as to what the problem might be
[08:18] <administrator_> 408520
[08:18] <administrator_> 408520
[08:18] <domsom> Boneripper_: if you can't even ping the XP box from other network nodes, the XP box is either down or not connected
[08:19] <Boneripper_> the XP box is fine.. i'm just downloading photos from my camera at the moment
[08:19] <sacarlson> Boneripper so you can't ping your win XP box from ubuntu?  that's normal as windows won't return a ping responce,  you can use arping to get a responce from a window box
[08:19] <Boneripper_> but i know what you are trying to say bud
[08:19] <Boneripper_> ok
[08:21] <Boneripper_> sorry just asking an off topic question.. does anyone know how turn off all this "quit" msgs on IRC?
[08:22] <Boneripper_> quit and joined messages grrr
[08:22] <sacarlson> Boneripper on pidgin there is a plugin that eliminates it
[08:23] <Boneripper_> i'm on gnome IRC chat
[08:25] <domsom> Boneripper_: can you access the internet from your xp box?
[08:26] <scientes> Boneripper, could be double NAT
[08:26] <Boneripper_> domson: give me a sec mate..
[08:26] <n05u> hi at all
[08:27] <sidd_mak> how 2 route traffic come from VM to base machine to internet ??
[08:27] <Boneripper_> domson: yes i can mate
[08:28] <domsom> Boneripper_: can you ping the ubuntu boxes from XP?
[08:28] <domsom> Boneripper_: (the XP box is connected to the same router as the ubuntu boxes, I assume)
[08:28] <Boneripper_> domson: hold one
[08:29] <Boneripper_> sorry whats the ipconfig equivalent for linux pleasre
[08:29] <domsom> ifconfig
[08:29] <Boneripper_> thanks
[08:30] <Boneripper_> domson: yes i can to both machines
[08:30] <violinappren> sidd_mak: depends on the virtual machine you're using, if you're running virtualbox, ask in #vbox
[08:30] <domsom> Boneripper_: hmm
[08:30] <Boneripper_> domson: is this the proper command; smb://192.168.....
 thanx
[08:30] <domsom> Boneripper_: yes, if you're in nautilus
[08:31] <Rienzilla> howdy, #ubuntu. I have a fresh ubuntu install with the proprietary ati drivers offered in the ubuntu install. However, with that driver, I cannot set the native resolution of my panel, and my display (plasma tv) is detected as a projector resulting in the driver underscanning. I can fix the underscan issue once with aticonfig, but I cannot set the resolution correctly. Furthermore, everything I set with aticonfig is reset as soon as the x session restar
[08:31] <domsom> Boneripper_: try 'smbtree smb://192.168...' on the commandline
[08:31] <domsom> should give you more detailed error messages than nautilus
[08:32] <Boneripper_> domson: i've been using that command without any issues for the last month or so???
[08:33] <domsom> Boneripper_: as soon as you find the cause, you'll know what you did last night ;-)
[08:34] <domsom> Boneripper_: but to find out, you need the error messages
[08:36] <Boneripper_> Could not display.. Failed to retrieve share list from server. please select another viewer and try again
[08:38] <domsom> Boneripper_: did it ask you for your password?
[08:38] <Boneripper_> nope.. it never have in the past month or so.. since i set it up
[08:39] <DrManhattan> im trying to set up software raid on 12.04 - I make md0 but when the menus of partitions shows back up again, the raid device isn't in the list for me to partition
[08:39] <domsom> Boneripper_: if you browse the network on your XP box, can you see the shares there?
[08:40] <Boneripper_> domson: yes i can mate
[08:41] <domsom> Boneripper_: any firewall settings on the XP box?
[08:41] <DrManhattan> wtf
[08:41] <DrManhattan> I've never had this issue before - am I missing something here? How do I partition my software raid volume?
[08:42] <domsom> DrManhattan: you don't partition it
[08:42] <domsom> DrManhattan: you can create a filesystem on it or install lvm there
[08:42] <domsom> DrManhattan: it's a volume, not a drive
[08:43] <mcnellis> Is it possible to disable the autodetect monitor feature? I'm having an issue on my Thinkpad where it's detecting my VGA monitor with an invalid refresh rate and then both my screens go black. If I unplug the VGA, the system autodetects that action and gives me my single laptop screen back.
[08:43] <mcnellis> It didn't use to do this, but somehow it started using an invalid refresh rate I think, and I don't know how to change the default that is being used when it changes my monitor config on autodetect
[08:43] <DrManhattan> well this is quite different than what I'm used to
[08:43] <bozonius> does ubuntu 1 work without unity?
[08:44] <bozonius> can I run ubuntu 1 client under, say, fluxbox?
[08:44] <Boneripper_> domson: yes but nothing has changed as ususal.. running zonealarmy
[08:44] <Boneripper_> domson: yes but nothing has changed as ususal.. running zonealarm
[08:44] <DrManhattan> when I got to set up LVM, it's asking me for devices.
[08:45] <DrManhattan> yeah md0 isn't coming up in the lvm setup either
[08:45] <DrManhattan> I can use physical drives for lvm but not the raid volume i just made
[08:45] <DrManhattan> it simply doesn't show up in the partitioner list
[08:47] <Boneripper_> domson: yes but nothing has changed as ususal.. running zonealarm
[08:49] <DrManhattan> yeah the raid volume doesn't show up in the partition manager
[08:57] <DrManhattan> this sucks
[08:58] <jml_> join ###Diaspora
[09:02] <DrManhattan> Im trying to install here, I make the raid device, but it doesn't show up in the partitioning menu even though the device is there
[09:02] <DrManhattan> LVM devices show up Raid devices do not.
[09:03] <auronandace> !raid
[09:08] <antaranian> hi ladies
[09:09] <DrManhattan> thanks auronandace   I'll try the server release
[09:10] <auronandace> DrManhattan: no worries, i'm just aware of the factoid, never used raid before :)
[09:10] <antaranian> I'm having issues with my ubuntu ~11.10 insstallation with unity
[09:10] <antaranian> it doesn't catch mouse events in desktop mode
[09:11] <auronandace> antaranian: what kind of issues (i don't use unity)
[09:11] <auronandace> antaranian: what do you mean by desktop mode?
[09:12] <antaranian> auronandace: my account automatically logs in, runs startup applications and as I can see, everything is ook, but I can do anything with input devices
[09:13] <freshman> hi
[09:13] <auronandace> freshman: greetings
[09:14] <antaranian> auronandace: I mean now I'm iin comman line mode, using irssi, but when I switch to unity, everything is as I've described
[09:14] <auronandace> antaranian: i never autologin and i don't use unity, not sure if the problem you have is with unity or compiz
[09:15] <sp3ck> guys anyone knows where bind9 log file is (virtualmin installed,ubuntu 11.10 server)
[09:15] <auronandace> sp3ck: tried /var/log/
[09:15] <sp3ck> i want to configure webminstats for bind9 and i cannt find the query logfile
[09:15] <auronandace> sp3ck: i'm guesssing
[09:16] <sp3ck> auronandace: of course i've tried
[09:16] <antaranian> auronandace: not sure whaat causes it, now when I move mouse, cursor changes positioon, when I click, it doesn't respond
[09:16] <sp3ck> auronandace: there's no "named" folder or bind.log or something like that
[09:16] <auronandace> antaranian: sure your mouse isn't broke?
[09:17] <antaranian> on keyyyyyboard there are some combinations, that work, like toggling between languagle layers, and some dont, as print screen
[09:18] <antaranian> auronandace: andit's not funny about broken mouse :)
[09:18] <auronandace> antaranian: have you tried a different mouse?
[09:18] <auronandace> antaranian: what are you trying to click?
[09:19] <auronandace> antaranian: left or right click?
[09:20] <antaranian> auronandace: it doesn't make difference, I can move just cursor, but events aren't catching
[09:20] <antaranian> even edge binding
[09:20] <antaranian> and I still can't access applications by keyboaard
[09:20] <toooot> hi guys, just installed ubuntu 11.10. The problem is that I lost some graphic elements. Like when I press alt-tab it shows old style switching (like in classic mode). Same is with ctrl-alt-DOWN or UP.  It moves only sideways insted of up or down (between desktops)
[09:21] <auronandace> antaranian: does the mouse work on a different desktop environment?
[09:21] <antaranian> auronandace: how can I check ?
[09:21] <auronandace> antaranian: log into a different desktop environment
[09:22] <antaranian> I mean i need to log out after autologin, but I cant
[09:22] <antaranian> to choose another desktop
[09:22] <auronandace> antaranian: i don't know what else to suggest then
[09:25] <antaranian> auronandace: thank you anyway
[09:25] <violinappren> antaranian: are you using a laptop?
[09:26] <antaranian> violinappren: no, desktop
[09:26] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[09:27] <DrManhattan> yeah the partitioning orks the way its supposed to with debian
[09:27] <DrManhattan> just not in 12/04
[09:27] <violinappren> antaranian: open a terminal then run the command: xev
[09:28] <violinappren> antaranian: then click inside the while small window that shows up and see if the event gets registered in the terminal
[09:28] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[09:28] <auronandace> !12.04 | DrManhattan
[09:29] <antaranian> violinappren: I get "Unable to open desktop"
[09:29] <alteregoa> when can i get zonky zebrule?
[09:29] <DrManhattan> auronandace, sadly, i got the same error in 11.10
[09:29] <DrManhattan> very odd.
[09:29] <violinappren> antaranian: you get that where ?
[09:30] <antaranian> violinappren:  when i run "xev"
[09:31] <violinappren> antaranian: is that the EXACT message you're getting?
[09:31] <violinappren> antaranian: the whole of it?
[09:32] <antaranian> violinappren: "xen: unable to open display"
[09:33] <violinappren> antaranian: it's xev not xen, and are you running under a normal user or root?
[09:34] <caddoo> ok i've had a potential unwanted access to an ubunutu web server, it looks as though log files have been deleted and a new folder created
[09:34] <caddoo> is there a way to find out when files where deleted and a folder created
[09:35] <antaranian> sorry, there is xev , xen was a misstype, violinappren
[09:35] <violinappren> caddoo: you've had to have auditd  running and configured for this purpose
[09:36] <violinappren> antaranian: are you running under the normal user in the terminal? what's the output of this command: whoami
[09:36] <Zhengfeng> ff
[09:37] <caddoo> looks like someone manually shut the server down
[09:37] <antaranian> violinappren: output is "antaranian", that's my username
[09:37] <caddoo> seem likely? http://pastesite.com/34473
[09:38] <violinappren> antaranian: what's the output of: echo $DISPLAY
[09:39] <antaranian> violinappren: it shows an empty row
[09:41] <violinappren> antaranian: export $DISPLAY=":0.0"
[09:41] <violinappren> antaranian: then run xev again and click inside the small window
[09:42] <violinappren> and see if the events register in the terminal
[09:42] <DrManhattan> o.m.f.g. debian installs to software raid but wont boot afterwards
[09:43] <auronandace> !omg | DrManhattan
[09:43] <DrManhattan> it's not a regular basis. I used it once.
[09:43] <dixon_> Hi. I'm trying to partition my SSD drive with fdisk and the Live Ubuntu 12.04 beta2 CD. But when trying to create my first partition, I can only start from cylinder 3. Isn't that wierd?
[09:44] <auronandace> !12.04 | dixon_
[09:44] <dixon_> auronandace: you think fdisk is acting wierd because it's 12.04 beta2?
[09:45] <auronandace> dixon_: i use gparted, but if you are using 12.04 it isn't supported here until released
[09:46] <dixon_> auronandace: ok, I see
[09:46] <dixon_> auronandace: thanks for the info :)
[09:46] <alteregoa> dixon: try a distro like fedora, so you get rid of such errors
[09:46] <dixon_> alteregoa: what do you mean? Should I try partition with a fedora live cd?
[09:47] <alteregoa> yes
[09:48] <dixon_> alteregoa: what makes fedora much better than ubuntu on that?
[09:48] <auronandace> alteregoa: a better suggestion would be partedmagic, which is actually designed for that use, as opposed to downloading a whole distro
[09:48] <alteregoa> aurondace: yes
[09:48] <alteregoa> ok use partedmagic mr dixon: you can try fedora elsehow
[09:48] <alteregoa> i use feduntu
[09:49] <dixon_> but in general terms, will I have an aligned SSD partitions if I start on the 3rd cylinder?
[09:49] <dixon_> I can live without the first bytes... :)
[09:51] <alteregoa> you need to feed the cylinder with a stochastic value of 10 parts air and 1 part gasoline
[09:51] <Jordan_U> dixon_: I higly recommend using [G]Parted for partitioning, or simply letting Ubuntu's installer do it for you. Among other things, [G]Parted understands fileystems, understands non-msdos labels, and follows best practivec like aligning on MiB boundaries.
[09:52] <dixon_> Jordan_U: but I've been struggling to find how to reliably align SSD partitions in GParted. All posts online are on fdisk...?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> dixon_: GParted does the right thing by default.
[09:53] <dixon_> Jordan_U: awesome then :) I'll try immediately
[09:53] <Jordan_U> alteregoa: Please stop giving nonsense responses and making offtopic comments.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> dixon_: Ubuntu's installer, which uses libparted, does this as well.
[09:55] <dixon_> Jordan_U: I'll go with GParted which is on the Live CD, I believe?
[09:55] <Jordan_U> dixon_: Yes, it comes on the Ubuntu LiveCD by default.
[09:55] <caddoo> what is the best way to see a clear indication of shutdown times and startup times of an ubuntu machine
[09:55] <Jordan_U> !bootchart | caddoo
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> caddoo  command 'last'
[09:57] <alteregoa> gparted crashed often
[10:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right...bash no such file or directory ubuntu
[10:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ubuntu 12
[10:01] <Gorilla_No_Baka>  any ideas?
[10:01] <auronandace> !12.04 | Gorilla_No_Baka
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> Gorilla_No_Baka  ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <alteregoa> i feel so def
[10:03] <mertsas> is there a way to update only one repository in ubuntu using the commandline?
[10:03] <auronandace> mertsas: only one? why?
[10:04] <mertsas> theres
[10:04] <mertsas> there's a firewall which stops updating of some, so I thought I should try updating only one
[10:04]  * alteregoa smell some skin yard
[10:05] <auronandace> mertsas: no offence but that doesn't make sense
[10:05] <auronandace> !ot | alteregoa
[10:06] <clockwize> Hi guys, my ubuntu server hasn't automatically adjusted the time for british summer time… how can I set this up?
[10:07] <alteregoa> clockwise according to the tamarian, you should chose them in system language settings
[10:08] <clockwize> where is that on a server?
[10:08] <clockwize> with no gui
[10:12] <mox> hi everybody
[10:12] <auronandace> mox: greetings
[10:12] <mox> could someone help me out with networking configuration?
[10:12] <mox> i have an ubuntu server 10.4
[10:13] <mox> installed on it kvm
[10:13] <mox> now my goal is
[10:13] <mox> to have the eth0 of ubuntu server with this address 192.168.101.10
[10:13] <mox> and the guest with 192.168.99.x
[10:13] <auronandace> !enter | mox
[10:13] <mox> ok auronandace
[10:13] <mox> sorry
[10:13] <mox> would it be possible?
[10:14] <clockwize> hmm, I get ntpdate[5264]: no servers can be used, exiting.. if I run ntpdate.. my /etc/ntpd.conf has a server in it though
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> mox  if the subnet is 255.255.0.0
[10:15] <mox> MonkeyDust, could you explain me please? what do you mean? i try to be more clear: i want to be able to connect either with the server machine, either with the guest switching vlan
[10:15] <mox> (from a remote host)
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> mox  explaining subnets is not easy, better find a tutorial
[10:17] <mox> MonkeyDust, could you give me a resource to get it working please?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> mox  start here http://compnetworking.about.com/od/workingwithipaddresses/a/subnetmask.htm
[10:21] <caddoo> how can i ensure my ubuntu server isn't sleeping after a certain amount of time
[10:21] <Guest50665> no sound from headphone any help?
[10:21] <auronandace> Guest50665: screenshot of alsamixer
[10:22] <janvi> how to register nodes on Ubuntu enterprise cloud
[10:23] <auronandace> !pm | Guest50665
[10:23] <detly> where are the commonly used licenses (like GPL, etc) stored?
[10:23] <p3c0> How to get the location of settings of application installed on ubuntu ?
[10:24] <drecute> after setting up ubuntu 11 as nis client, ubuntu's performance becomes so slow
[10:24] <LjL> p3c0: i don't think there is a standard way
[10:25] <drecute> elements of the GUI becomes non-responsively and waits a long time after performing an action
[10:26] <drecute> s/non-responsively/non-responsive
[10:26] <auronandace> drecute: using unity by any chance?
[10:27] <drecute> yes
[10:27] <drecute> but I've switched to 2D
[10:28] <c0mrade______> WriteLn.Console("Hello"):
[10:28] <c0mrade______> I am not linux guru. But I've booted from the live BackTrack DVD and currently I am watching a video by Vivek Ramachandran about Wireless Security. I have the earphones plugged but the sound is coming out of the laptop not the earphones?!
[10:28] <auronandace> drecute: oh, i was hust about to say unity uses compiz by default, but if you are using unity2d you are using qt instead
[10:28] <auronandace> just*
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  better ask in #backtrack-linux
[10:29] <c0mrade______> MonkeyDust: I am banned from #backtrack-linux. But anyhow. BackTrack is based on ubuntu.
[10:29] <auronandace> c0mrade______: and not supported here
[10:30] <c0mrade______> Okay.
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  i guess you're banned without reason
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> ?
[10:30] <drecute> auronandace: so what exactly is the problem?
[10:30] <drecute> I can't work with this
[10:30] <c0mrade______> No. With a reason. I did't have much of experience so I started shooting a lot of questions and that made the ops mad :P
[10:31] <c0mrade______> Okay then my question is going to be a general one.
[10:31] <auronandace> drecute: good question, i've not tried unity or unity2d so i'm not sure of the performance hit you'd get
[10:31] <caddoo> How do I check if my ubuntu machine has a computer sleep time out?
[10:32] <c0mrade______> If I am working on a 'nix machine and I am listening to music while having my earphones on, why does the sound come out of the laptop not the earphones, anyway to configure the settings and how?
[10:32] <drecute> auronandace: I don't think this is a problem with unity
[10:32] <drecute> I've been using it for a while without problems
[10:32] <Paarthunax> Bluetooth headset?
[10:33] <drecute> this problem started when I installed nis
[10:33] <auronandace> drecute: i've never used nis either
[10:33] <c0mrade______> Another question for the ops.
[10:34] <c0mrade______> If I want to create my own nix server. What kind of hardware requirements do I need for the web server?
[10:34] <drecute> does anyone know the cause of this problem?
[10:34] <c0mrade______> Maybe a 1U Rack server with 64 GB of memory, and a Xeon CPU, is that enough?
[10:35] <c0mrade______> Maybe a place that will support 500 concurrent users.
[10:35] <auronandace> c0mrade______: wouldn't the requirements depend heavily on what you plan to do with it?
[10:35] <Paarthunax> I would like to know about the headset problem too, I also have this issue.
[10:36] <sacarlson> has anyone used html5 in Lubuntu?  seems I can't get anything to play, just wonder if it's on my side or youtube.com
[10:36] <c0mrade______> Support about 500 concurrent users. No support for video and audio and file transfer. Support for multiple rooms and public rooms.
[10:36] <Pumpkin-> heavily depends on what you want to do. Serving 500 users a bunch of static pages you could most likely do on a 486. Serving 500 concurent users something that involves a lot of complex logic, database queries and general processing, maybe not. Serving 500 users analysis of the the Large Hadron Colider results in real time, not a hope etc ...
[10:36] <hateball> c0mrade______, Paarthunax: are these headsets with 3.5mm connectors, or bluetooth etc? Sometimes the jack sense doesnt work for some chipsets
[10:37] <c0mrade______> Maybe I think about using Apache server.
[10:37] <drecute> i cannot edit networking properties
[10:37] <c0mrade______> Paarthunax: They are standard earphones with a standard jack. No bluetooth.
[10:38] <Paarthunax> I solved the jack issue by not inserting all of the plug.
[10:38] <Paarthunax> Mine is a bluetooth one
[10:38] <jblanca> Hi, I have some doubts regarding grub2
[10:38] <ponrajuganesh> how to find the location of the directory in ubuntu
[10:39] <ANub_> drecute: explain....
[10:39] <c0mrade______> Pumpkin-: I'll be probably using PHP on the server side and html/javascript on the client side and I'll use an IRC server and customize it to my needs.
[10:39] <jblanca> I have just installed precise and grub has been installed in the mbr. This is a dualboot system and I want to reinstall grub2 in the ubuntu partition
[10:39] <drecute> ANub_: I just configured nis client on ubuntu 11 desktop
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> jblanca  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <jblanca> I know that I can do it with grub-install, but I don't know if the next time grub is update it will overwrite th mbr again.
[10:40] <c0mrade______> Well the issue here is the bandwidth.
[10:40] <drecute> and symptoms of that is whether I launched an action, it takes a long time to respond
[10:41] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: before you setup for 500 concurrent users you can setup you home unit with dhcp to probly handle 10 or more users depending on content
[10:41] <jblanca> Any idea regarding how to specify where grub2 should be installed on updates?
[10:41] <drecute> coupled with that, my networking connection in which nis, DNS, likewise depends on is disaled and wn't allow me to edit it
[10:41] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: sorry dhcp = adsl
[10:41] <c0mrade______> My ISP gives limited bandwidth down=4GB up=1.5GB downspeed=1Mbps upspeed=200Kbps every extra 1GB per month costs 7$.
[10:42] <ANub_> drecute:Odd....however why would u wanna use NIS.........it poses a serious security threat if used with dynamic IP
[10:42] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: then limit you server activity,  when you get the trafic then move to a virtual system that can handle the trafic
[10:42] <Paarthunax> ponrajuganesh: have you tried $locate [directory]?
[10:42] <auronandace> c0mrade______: 4gb monthly allowance and you want to run a server?
[10:42] <drecute> i'm not using dynamic IP
[10:43] <c0mrade______> Well HeHe. I am trying to work it out.
[10:43] <c0mrade______> There might be a solution.
[10:43] <c0mrade______> I mean it's an issue but...
[10:43] <ponrajuganesh> ya that works Paarthunax  thanks
[10:43] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: you can also change your contract with your ISP or change ISP
[10:43] <ponrajuganesh> what is the command to start and stop the tomcat?
[10:44] <c0mrade______> It's there's a user sending 1Kb in the public room that contains 100 users he's uploading 100Kb. Damn!
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  4GB for 500 users?
[10:44] <ANub_> drecute: Are you using GUI....Network-Manager..?
[10:44] <c0mrade______> Well I can change the contract with the ISP as sacarlson said.
[10:45] <drecute> I also modified the network parameters myself in /etc/network/interfaces. But that won't still make the GUI network manager to become enabled
[10:45] <drecute> yes I am
[10:46] <c0mrade______> I am worried more about the webserver hardware cost, the webserver setup, the website code...
[10:46] <ANub_> drecute: which Ubuntu version you are using..?
[10:46] <drecute> 11.10
[10:46] <sacarlson> drecute: you want a static address?  should be posible from network-manager,  if you changed interfaces file pastebinit for us to see
[10:47] <ANub_> drecute: have you tried stopping and starting network-manager service from terminal..?
[10:47] <c0mrade______> :P people are starting to use IPv6
[10:47] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: there's lots of free php code the server take almost nothing compared to the bandwidth needed
[10:47] <drecute> yes. static address.
[10:47] <ANub_> drecute: have you tried stopping and starting network-manager service from terminal..?
[10:47] <drecute> yes
[10:47] <c0mrade______> Well that's good.
[10:48] <c0mrade______> I don't want the server to take up half of the bandwidth lol.
[10:48] <drecute> I did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:48] <mertsas> auronandace: I don't really care if it makes sense, but is it possible?
[10:48] <auronandace> mertsas: why would your firewall block one update but not another?
[10:48] <ANub_> drecute: networking is separate from network-manager
[10:49] <brun0l3z> Hello People
[10:49] <ANub_> try "service network-manager restart"
[10:49] <auronandace> mertsas: if you are updating just the one repo and you install updates you might end up having dependency issues and things will break
[10:49] <drecute> ok
[10:50] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: with an ISP of 10Mbs bandwidht you could live with a very small 1.7 ghz cpu and 512meg dram,  hardware is nothing,  you might want a big disk drive to play with
[10:50] <drecute> done that
[10:50] <drecute> no luck still
[10:50] <brun0l3z> I have a problem, i have tor browser configured and works well but this website keep blocking and canceling my accounts i create with them so i was wondering if they is another way to go about this
[10:51] <ponrajuganesh> how to check whether a location exists or not ?
[10:51] <sacarlson> drecute: I seem to have missed your pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces  did you post it for us to see?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> ponrajuganesh  use locate
[10:52] <OerHeks> brun0l3z, not really an ubuntu issue, is it? some sites do not accept tor-traffic.
[10:52] <ANub_> drecute: does your network-manager GUI shows you any options..?
[10:52] <ANub_> and r those selectable
[10:52] <bel3atar> Guys I need help, I've just accidentally removed my /etc/rc.local
[10:53] <sacarlson> ANub_: if he modified /etc/network/interfaces then network-manager no longer controls it
[10:53] <rumpe1> bel3atar, just create it again
[10:53] <sacarlson> ANub_: sorry he = drecute
[10:53] <auronandace> sacarlson: doesn't networkmanager overwrite /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:54] <ANub_> drecute: does your network-manager GUI shows you any options..?
[10:54] <ANub_> and r those selectable
[10:54] <drecute> only Edit connections is enabled
[10:54] <drecute> here: http://codepad.org/vRTGLTKw
[10:54] <c0mrade______> sacarlson: What do you think about this one --> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1u+rack+server+with+64+gb+of+ram&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=536&prmd=imvns&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9057710692162008529&sa=X&ei=vPmLT7TxBMGg0QXGq9jLCQ&ved=0CHkQ8wIwBA
[10:54] <sacarlson> auronandace: not as far as I know,  maybe at install?  but I was told the method to set static was to modify /etc/network/interfaces
[10:54] <dixon_> How important is it to start SSD partitions on the second cylinder? I've noticed that newer versions of GParted automatically aligns the partitions correctly, but it does it from the first cylinder on the device.
[10:55] <auronandace> sacarlson: ah, i may be remembering wrongly then, thanks for the info
[10:55] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: for one thing you will also need a rack to mount it in and seems it comes with no mem
[10:56] <dixon_> Reason why I ask regarding what cylinder to start the first SSD partition on is because some claim starting on the 2nd cylinder is better?
[10:56] <ANub_> drecute: this is wat you posted in /etc/network/interfaces.....?
[10:56] <bel3atar> rumpe1, and fill it with what?
[10:56] <c0mrade______> I know I've got an old empty rack chassis. And yeah. I'll upgrade it with as much RAM as it'll need.
[10:56] <drecute> I have removed the entry in /etc/network/interfaces and restarted network-manager
[10:56] <bel3atar> rumpe1: and fill it with what?
[10:56] <drecute> no luck still
[10:57] <rumpe1> bel3atar, whatever you like. Maybe it should be set executable. It's just a script, which (if it exists), will be executed on boot
[10:57] <drecute> yes
[10:57] <hateball> !ot | c0mrade______
[10:57] <c0mrade______> What's up hateball?
[10:57] <c0mrade______> :P
[10:57] <sacarlson> drecute: what setting are you trying to acheave?   ipaddress, mask, gateway ?
[10:57] <rumpe1> bel3atar, the default rc.local consists of just a script without any commands (just commented lines)
[10:57] <hateball> c0mrade______: Just letting you know this channel is for Ubuntu support, rather than general inquiries :)
[10:58] <bel3atar> rumpe1: OKI thanks a lot
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for your kind of questions
[10:58] <c0mrade______> Oh yeah.
[10:58] <c0mrade______> Awesome!
[10:58] <ANub_> drecute: r u using wifi right now to chat......or is it another PC...?
[10:58] <drecute> another PC
[10:59] <rumpe1> dixon_, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual    Cylinder alignment seems to be for compatibility with old OS like DOS
[10:59] <ANub_> drecute: r u sure ..... ur network cable is plugged in right....?
[11:00] <ANub_> 'cause if its not.....u will not see Auto-Eth in network-manager applet
[11:00] <rumpe1> dixon_, "MiB alignment provides enhanced performance when used with RAID systems and with Solid State Drives, such as USB flash drives."  ... "Cylinder/Head/Sector ... no longer valid to use .. to achieve enhanced performance"
[11:00] <drecute> yes
[11:00] <drecute> i can ping other computers in my network
[11:01] <ANub_> from ubuntu PC....?
[11:01] <sacarlson> drecute: so you failed to add a default gateway route
[11:01] <dixon_> rumpe1: ah, yeah. thanks! :) I think I'm good to go then
[11:02] <ANub_> drecute: have u tried using "ifconfig" command and adding a manual route
[11:02] <JelloPop> rumpe1: u running arch linux
[11:03] <rumpe1> JelloPop, not at the moment
[11:03] <ANub_> if that works for you....and network-manager still stuck then you can try uninstalling and reinstalling network-manager from ubuntu software center
[11:03] <ANub_> drecute: have u tried using "ifconfig" command and adding a manual route
[11:03] <ANub_> if that works for you....and network-manager still stuck then you can try uninstalling and reinstalling network-manager from ubuntu software center
[11:03] <JelloPop> rumpe1: Figured u might be in arch linux most people dont now the full package name for the network-manager-applet...
[11:04] <sacarlson> ANub_: drecute: all these values are changeable in network-manager I think drecute is lacking for a minimal static address with routes and dns services
[11:04] <JelloPop> rumpe1: I know most of them cause I run Xmonad and now arch linux.. :)
[11:04] <ANub_> sacarlson: it seems drecute's Network-manager is either stuck or crashed
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> drecute  don't forget to add a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:05] <sacarlson> ANub_: that would of happened after he modified the interfaces file so he won't let us peak at that and provides no info of the values he will need to know to setup a working routed connection
[11:06] <JelloPop> rumpe1: Can u tell me what the best chance I have at running virtualbox with 2 gigs of ram cpu i70 which is 2ghz ?
[11:06] <ANub_> drecute: try what i've suggested above
[11:07] <ANub_> hopefully it will work
[11:07] <JelloPop> rumpe1: tried to run linux mint 64 and it is slow in virtualbox.. It almost crashed...
[11:08] <drecute> ok
[11:08] <rumpe1> JelloPop, i would suggest to ask that question in the proper channel ( irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help )
[11:08] <ANub_> first make sure u r able to assign ip address using ifconfig
[11:08] <ANub_> then bring up the interface using
[11:09] <ANub_> ifconfig eth0 up
[11:09] <MrElendig> (or better, ip)
[11:09] <ANub_> then add manual route
[11:09] <drecute> i used network-admin. Now it is not working anylonger
[11:09] <ANub_> and see if communication happens
[11:09] <drecute> "The configuration could not be loaded"
[11:09] <JelloPop> rumpe1: I need help with virtual box its to slow!
[11:09] <JelloPop> rumpe1: can u help in ubuntu chat
[11:10] <ANub_> drecute: use "ifconfig "your-interface" IP-add netmask up
[11:10] <rocket16> Hey guys. Is there a way I can share my laptop internet connection with my android? (Without Wifi, 'cause that doesn't work between my system and phone). I mean to use the USB cable. :) I want to do that because the laptop bandwidth is more and faster
[11:10] <drecute> Liboobs-WARNING **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backens: Activation of org.freedesktop.SystemToolBackens timed out
[11:10]  * rocket16 uses Ubuntu 11.10 btw
[11:10] <drecute> ANub_: on it
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> rocket16  start here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[11:12] <drecute> hostname lookup failure
[11:12]  * drecute trying to edit /etc/hosts
[11:12] <JelloPop> MrElendig: thanks for the help earlier today in Archlinux this is archboxman thank you I understand key ring now
[11:13] <ANub_> drecute: just execute the command as i wrote
[11:13] <drecute> yeah
[11:13] <ANub_> use "ifconfig "your-interface" IP-add netmask up
[11:13] <rocket16> Doing that. Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:13] <drecute> it says "+ Host name lookup failure"
[11:14] <ANub_> thats odd......it shldnt
[11:14] <munsking> i've been trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 using unetbootin and it looks like grub isnt installing correctly because it wont boot, no errors are given during installation and after running "grub-install" using the live CD it still doesn't work, even though there were no errors
[11:14] <ANub_> if u run ifconfig eth0
[11:14] <ANub_> does it show u any output
[11:14] <munsking> so how do i config grub and what should i change
[11:14] <auronandace> ANub_: he edited /etc/hosts
[11:15] <drecute> yes
[11:15] <drecute> shows what's in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:16] <ANub_> then run ifconfig eth1 up
[11:16] <sacarlson> drecute: another option is you can override network-manager for a session with a script like this http://pastebin.com/jPmRs0GJ
[11:16] <ANub_> as u have shown its ur eth1 interface
[11:16] <ANub_> then ping ur own interface
[11:17] <ponrajuganesh> whether using grep could we find whether a string is found in another string?
[11:17] <ANub_> and afterwards ping other PCs on the same network
[11:17] <saulo> hello. I have mysql running inside a schroot environment. I can't connect at database from apache: I receive "can't connect" for localhost and if I put the machine IP I receive "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". Somebody can help me?
[11:17] <saulo> hello. I have mysql running inside a schroot environment. I can't connect at database from apache: I receive "can't connect" for localhost and if I put the machine IP I receive "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". Somebody can help me?
[11:17] <ANub_> if successful add a default route and point it to ur gateway to go to internet\
[11:17] <FloodBot1> saulo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <drecute> all works fine
[11:18] <drecute> the network config is fine
[11:18] <drecute> my my only problem is that ubuntu is refusing to start some GUI apps
[11:18] <ANub_> try reinstalling those applications
[11:18] <drecute> e.g i want to leave the AD domain and it won't start likewise
[11:19] <ponrajuganesh> whether could we use grep to find a string contains other string?
[11:20] <jrib> ponrajuganesh: echo outside_string| grep inner_string
[11:20] <drecute> i dont need internet on this for now
[11:20] <sacarlson> saulo: schroot environment?  is that normal?  what guide did you use to set it up?  do you have a link?
[11:21] <drecute> i can do that when I need to
[11:21] <Greyze> Afternoon, can anyone help me with a small issue with Skype on ubuntu 12?
[11:21] <auronandace> !12.04 | Greyze
[11:24] <Greyze> Have an odd problem with Skype, when someone calls, I hear the ringing sound.. but theres no actual button or notification I can press to accept the call. Am I being dull and its hidden somewhere, or is this some bug?
[11:24] <computer_> when is 12.04 officially be released?
[11:25] <saulo> sacarlson: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 and installed Mysql inside. Connections inside works good, connections from other machines dont
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> computer_  april 26
[11:26] <computer_> i cant wait that long! :(
[11:26] <computer_> :)
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> computer_  you can use the beta, suport in #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <computer_> i want the full release not beta
[11:27] <shape> computer_ April 26
[11:27] <computer_> hehe
[11:27] <shape> computer_ if you look it up on google you can track the ubuntu development of it
[11:27] <computer_> its like a special holiday, cant wait!
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> computer_  final coment: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[11:28] <sacarlson> saulo: ok that just limits users to access certain apps wow then I guess you should also post your configs for schroot,  not sure why this would be needed
[11:28] <shape> computer_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[11:28] <computer_> :)
[11:28] <shape> Ah he beat me to it
[11:29] <sacarlson> saulo: mysql already has control to limit access that you will also have to set
[11:30] <sacarlson> saulo: maybe setup a normal mysql system with your remotes then add this layer of security after you figure out the normal security built into mysql
[11:30] <computer_> nice link
[11:31] <matt__> I'm trying to install right now, but Ubiquity seems to be stuck on "Removing conflicting operating system files", should I restart or wait it out?
[11:31] <shape> matt_: what install method did you use?
[11:31] <shape> matt_: and for how long have you been waiting?
[11:31] <matt__> shape: liveusb
[11:31] <matt__> shape: around 15 minutes
[11:32] <shape> matt_ Does Ubuntu have its own partition?
[11:32] <shape> Or did you install it alongside windows
[11:33] <matt__> shape: yeah, Ubuntu is being installed (/) on a USB, /home is on a separate harddrive
[11:33] <saulo> sacarlson: more information about: I have 3 machines: (1) mysql and ruby systems (2) with Apache + PHP5.2 (3) with Apache + php 5.3 . All with schroot and needing connect with the databases..
[11:33] <matt__> I feel I should confess that I'm installing precise, but +1 is dead atm
[11:33] <Onewhohelps> sacarlson:
[11:34] <sacarlson> saulo: so I suggest skip the schroot part for now or for ever
[11:34] <shape> matt__: I see. I never installed from a usb and I have no experience with 12. So I shouldn't give bad advice but if I were in your situation I would just redo it. I'd wait max 30 minutes.
[11:35] <sacarlson> saulo: or at least leave it out of the mysql part,  maybe still ok for your developers to limit there access
[11:36] <matt__> shape: yeah, nothing can really go horribly wrong here, so I guess it's pointless to wait it out
[11:36] <shape> matt__: The reason I asked was in case you were installing it on the same partition as windows, only then I would have worried.
[11:37] <matt__> shape: yeah, I'm not into Windows ;)
[11:37] <computer_> how do i make so i can 64 or 32 bit ubuntu on usb?
[11:38] <computer_> how do i make so i can run 64 or 32 bit ubuntu on usb?
[11:38] <sacarlson> saulo: oh maybe your problem has nothing to do with schroot you just need to open some of your mysql accounts to be accessed by some of your other servers
[11:38] <shape> Does anyone here have any advice on how to convert a friend to Linux (he is using a MAC), because all he does is just surf the web and email anyway. I haven't used a MAC and I don't know any good arguments about its software (apart from not being open source and the machine costing a lot). Are there any flaws system-wize?
[11:38] <computer_> i have 8gb usb key
[11:39] <mathews> computer_, dowmload the ISO 32 bit which can be run on both 32 and 62
[11:39] <aboudreault> Hi. Why can I read a blueray file (or x264) without problem? My pc is quite recent and the video card very good. but... I always see glitches in the screen. The only way I have been able to watch that kind of movie is with *cvlc*. But sometime it doesn't work very good, like other players.
[11:39] <computer_> mathews, really? cool!
[11:39] <sacarlson> saulo: the overlaped security adds to the complexity to isolate your problem for me
[11:39] <computer_> thanks!
[11:40] <mathews> why some text missing here on xchat which I entered?
[11:40] <shape> aboudreault: you mean play a HD movie in ubuntu? Gives you choppy graphics in the player?
[11:40] <matt__> shape: personally, I wouldn't waste my time. Mac folk tend not to deal well with arguments
[11:40] <mathews> some part of my text missing when it entered
[11:41] <computer_> irc server issue i guess
[11:42] <sacarlson> mathews: I've noted that everytime my systems dhcp lease expires my irc has to reconect,  not sure why,  could be just me
[11:43] <mathews> I am having a check in the preference section to see whats wrong
[11:44] <sacarlson> computer_: or with 8gb flash drive you could create a multiboot usb drive
[11:44] <shape> mathews: you could also try a different program and see if the same thing happens
[11:44] <computer_> i think if u type too many lines too fast it does that by irc server
[11:45] <computer_> yeah but using just 32 would be easier
[11:45] <mathews> yes,sure. Let see
[11:45] <sacarlson> computer_: I've never tried this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/easily-create-a-multiboot-usb-stick/
[11:46] <computer_> ill take a look
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson i've used muti
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson i've used multisystem
[11:46] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: did you try this one that creates it for you?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson difference with unetbootin is, that multisystem copies the locales
[11:47] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: oh unetbootin already supports multiboot now?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> copies = takes over
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> sacarlson  that's another differnce, multisystem uses a grub-like menu
[11:48] <computer_> got a link mokey?
[11:48] <mathews> my problem solved,I increased the "shorten tab labels to" to 50 in the chennel switcher
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> computer_  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:48] <computer_> nice to have choices like this
[11:48] <sacarlson> computer_: ya and pendrivelinux.com has all the cool stuf like that
[11:49] <saulo> sacarlson: thanks anyway! I partially solved changing the bind-addres value from 127.0.0.1 to the machine IP (192.168.254.253) at my.cnf . Partially because I don't know if will appear some problem related yet, but going test :)
[11:49] <sacarlson> but funny with all this muliboot stuf I still can't get a single ubuntu alternate iso to boot from a flash drive or added menu in grub2
[11:50] <computer_> hmm
[11:50] <aboudreault> shape, yes, exact.
[11:50] <bourke> is it possible to remove the messaging applet from the unity panel?
[11:51] <aboudreault> shape, something like the image is not rendered without glitches.... ie, an horizontal line that goes up. (image drawing)
[11:51] <sacarlson> bourke: I think it might remove something else you might want to keep like the time or volume,  I could be wrong about this
[11:51] <dr_willis> bourke:  should be., i recall the webupd8 blog site having a list of tweaks and tips. I think that was one of them
[11:52] <mrafi> #python
[11:52] <bourke> i would have thought it should be easy but haven't turned up much so far in google
[11:53] <dr_willis> bourke:  check the webupd8 site and the askubuntu.com site
[11:54] <bourke> got it :) indicator-messages
[11:54] <sacarlson> bourke: when removed do you still see your volume control?
[11:55] <Xtreme> hey guys, i have downloaded warzone from their website.. but while installing its giving error sdl is missing.. i searched apt-get, and warzone is available there. so how can i only install dependencies using apt-get
[11:55] <dr_willis> used to be people would right click/remove - and it would remove the whole indicator-applet panel thing. :) so removeing all indicatlr-applets i recall.
[11:55] <dr_willis> Xtreme:  its a newer version on the site>?
[11:56] <bourke> Xtreme: apt-get build-dep warzone (i think
[11:57] <dr_willis> if the download from the site is a .deb you could use gdebi to pull in all needed deps.
[11:58] <computer_> hmm i wonder if pdanet works with ubuntu
[11:58] <dr_willis> computer_:  that xdgteather app thats out does.. no idea on pdanet
[12:00] <computer_> heheh found it, lets see if it works http://junefabrics.com/bin/PdaNet.deb
[12:00] <Xtreme> bourke: got error
[12:00] <Xtreme> source required as uri
[12:00] <computer_> its for iphone?! :(
[12:01] <computer_> iphone sux
[12:01] <sacarlson> computer_: I guess pdanet is just like wifi tether?
[12:01] <computer_> usb
[12:01] <computer_> i got it to work with windows..no luck with linux
[12:01] <sacarlson> computer_: oh ok,  I just use wifi for that stuf
[12:01] <trevor> w
[12:01] <computer_> i use my htc sprint to share internet with my pc
[12:02] <computer_> free
[12:02] <q222> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1585550 Anyone have a solution for this old thread? Because it's still a problem, a huge one that's totally ruining the OS for me.
[12:02] <sacarlson> computer_: same as wifi tether as you android becomes an access point that a group can also share
[12:02] <computer_> but then again i guess i could virtualbox win and use it
[12:03] <computer_> u have to pay 30 extra dollars to sprint to be able to share internet
[12:03] <computer_> with ur phone
[12:03] <computer_> ur pc i mean
[12:03] <sacarlson> computer_: how can they tell you running a wifi tether?
[12:03] <Guest71555> fantastisch
[12:03] <computer_> well the panet only works with usb tethering
[12:04] <computer_> pdanet*
[12:04] <computer_> not wifi
[12:04] <sacarlson> computer_: so you phone doesn't have wifi?
[12:04] <computer_> yeas but pdanet wont work asa wifi router
[12:04] <computer_> of usb connection
[12:05] <computer_> only*
[12:05] <paulus68> what is a good tutorial to create a preseed file?
[12:05] <sacarlson> computer_: I'm speaking of a different application that does the same thing on wifi for an android,  I don't know how sprint can detect it
[12:05] <computer_> whats the app called?
[12:06] <dr_willis> The carriers can detect it if you are teathering apraently and give you a nasty suprise..
[12:06] <sacarlson> computer_: there are many you can google " wifi tether "
[12:06] <dr_willis> some  apps the use usb-cables. aparently are not detectable. they yse some proxy method
[12:06] <fidel> isnt that an adroid default function - as long as the carrier allows it?
[12:06] <computer_> hmm my coworker been using it for months no surprises
[12:06] <fidel> i had no need to install anything special - to be able to share my whatever network
[12:07] <zayan> Hey i need some help guys
[12:07] <fidel> zayan: hi - whats the problem?
[12:07] <computer_> ive been using it for 4 months...no surpprise...ye :)
[12:07] <computer_> yet*
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> let's hear it, zayan
[12:07] <zayan> do any of you know where can i meet backtrack users
[12:08] <zayan> On XCHAT
[12:08] <dr_willis> !backtrack
[12:08] <zayan> yeah
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> zayan  /join #backtrack-linux
[12:08] <dr_willis> their web site most likely gives their irc channel info also..
[12:08] <zayan> thanks
[12:08] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:09] <computer_> i use to pay sprint 30 dollars extra for wifi/usb tethering...not anymore :) now its free
[12:09] <dr_willis> untill they send you a nasty bill.. but thats ot for here...
[12:09] <computer_> :)
[12:10] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:10] <dr_willis> Ive been using some app called 'clockworkmod teather' uses usb cable only.
[12:10] <xavicolomer> Hello!
[12:10] <dr_willis> zayan:  notice any messages about the channel being registered nicks only?
[12:10] <computer_> is it free?
[12:10] <zayan> how do i register
[12:10] <dr_willis> computer_:  like $5 i think. i just used the demo a little
[12:10] <dr_willis> !register
[12:11] <fidel> zayan: #help
[12:11] <shape> aboudreault: Did you fix the issue (sorry I had to brb)
[12:11] <zayan> ok i see
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> zayan  just entered backtrack channel, 208 nicks
[12:11] <xavicolomer> Is anybody here? I need a little help installing a nginx module, and they say in this channel you may help
[12:11] <xavicolomer> I get:
[12:11] <xavicolomer> make: *** [config.status.extras] Error 1
[12:11] <xavicolomer> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[12:11] <zayan> no i dont know
[12:12] <xavicolomer> Any idea?
[12:12] <zayan> can you help me to register
[12:12] <computer_> downloading the free version...
[12:12] <fidel> zayan: this is an ubuntu help channel
[12:12] <dr_willis> zayan:  help on that in #freenode
[12:12] <fidel> not a freenode help channel ;)
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> zayan  no need to register, see my previous comment
[12:12] <shape> aboudreault: What you generally need is to enable hardware acceleration or change the video output (i.e. in SMplayer you could change it to gl (fast)
[12:12] <fl1bbl3> zayan: some channels do need you to be registered.  For help "/msg NickServ help"
[12:13] <Pici> !register | zayan
[12:13] <mathews> #register
[12:14] <computer_> looks like the free version works
[12:14] <computer_> hmm
[12:14] <computer_> nice
[12:14] <computer_> pdanet does the same though
[12:14] <computer_> but yours work with linux
[12:14] <computer_> yeah!
[12:14] <computer_> :)
[12:15] <computer_> thanks
[12:15]  * computer_ drinks a shoot of sailer jerry
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> zayan: backtrack channel isn't +r (like MonkeyDust said) so no need to register to speak
[12:16] <computer_> any text to speech for linux?
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> yes
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> but its not great
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> festival
[12:16] <computer_> :(
[12:17] <sacarlson> computer_: yes but not many the reverse speach to text
[12:17] <computer_> what languages does it work with?
[12:17] <computer_> which is a good one?
[12:17] <fl1bbl3> computer_: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
[12:17] <paulus68> what is a good tutorial to create a preseed file?
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> languages as in english/french or as in perl/python?
[12:18] <shape> LOL
[12:18] <computer_> !preseed
[12:19] <computer_> nothing
[12:19] <mathews> "Grub2 will be installed in the MBR!" what it means?
[12:19] <fl1bbl3> master boot record
[12:19] <meet> i have a game which worked well on my laptop ubuntu 11.10 with wine. But i tried installing it on ubuntu 10.04 it did not work. instead the computer goes in hibernation. what can i do?
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sweex
[12:20] <fidel> meet: check the game-reuirements in the first place - if you are talking about 2 different boxes
[12:20] <computer_> !sweex
[12:21] <Pici> !msgthebot
[12:21] <meet> i had winxp on this system before and the game worked on it properly. morever its a small game of 30mb. @ fidel
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> Hey guys! I'
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> Ups
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> I'm having trouble installing opera in the software center...
[12:21]  * computer_ drinks a shoot of sailer jerry
[12:21] <computer_> im real tipsy now
[12:21] <computer_> :)
[12:22] <Paarthunax> mathews, MBR is a part of the hard disk which cares for booting the systems.
[12:22] <rich__> not sure if im asking this on the right channel but i have installed precise  devlopment branch i am trying to resolve some issues  how can i find out exactly witch stage of this i am running so i can look up the correct info
[12:23] <Paarthunax> Guys, excuse me. what does 'Join-part revolving door attempt' mean? I got banned from a channel
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> rich__  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:23] <rich__> ty
[12:23] <Pici> Paarthunax: Please ask in #freenode
[12:23] <Paarthunax> Just because I closed the wondow and tried to join the channel again
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Paarthunax  i guess if you enter/leave too often, it's like a revolving door
[12:24] <fl1bbl3> join flood
[12:24] <sirriffsalot_> When I try to open the opera .deb file in the software center it says "Internal error. The file "home/sirriffsalot/downloads/opera_XXXXXXX.deb" could not be opened." any ideas?
[12:24] <Paarthunax> I just did this once and by mistake _ _* .. thank you both
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  isnt opera in the repos?
[12:25] <sirriffsalot_> MonkeyDust: do explain^^
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  the repos are the ubuntu software sources
[12:25] <meet> i have a game which worked well on my laptop ubuntu 11.10 with wine. But i tried installing it on ubuntu 10.04 it did not work. instead the computer goes in hibernation. what can i do?
[12:25] <sirriffsalot_> MonkeyDust: which should be enabled for opera?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  try third party
[12:26] <sirriffsalot_> Ok, hang on:)
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  apt-get update after you set it active
[12:26] <sirriffsalot_> Both were already ticked...
[12:26] <fl1bbl3> meet: and the version of wine you are using is identical?
[12:27] <meet> ya 1.3
[12:27] <nlici> Hi to everybody
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> sirriffsalot_: what happens if you do "sudo dpkg -i <path to deb>"
[12:27] <meet> but one is on ubuntu 11.10 (worked) and the other is 10.04
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> meet: do you need to run 10.04?
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> and/or do you need to run the game?
[12:27] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: I did that, and it installs fine, but I need the flash-plugins afterwords, which I then can't find in synaptic etc...=(
[12:28] <meet> i got an old desktop. should i try installing 11.10?
[12:28] <fl1bbl3> sirriffsalot_: but all software center is going to do is exactly that command
[12:28] <nlici> question: i downloaded from the ubuntu s.center Gfax program but as i see it is not working can you advice me any kind of fax program and inorder and how can i install the driver of the fax modem ?Thanks in advance
[12:28] <shape> meet How old. Ubuntu 11.10 has low system requirements in the first place.
[12:28] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: well... the problem is still here:P
[12:29] <nlici> question 2 :what makes my computer work slow i have new computer )desctop)and it works with ubuntu .
[12:29] <meet> fl1bbl3 the thing is i promised my mom that this game and all her activities which she did on winxp(which was way 2 slow ) can be done easiiy so she agreed to migrate but now its not wokring
[12:29] <meet> 10 yrs old shape
[12:29] <shape> meet: so if it works on 11.10 why not try installing it?
[12:29] <meet> shape: 1.6ghz, 512 mb ram, pentium 4 :) i think that it wont work on
[12:30] <Somelauw> I tried festival, but it says one word of my input and then displays [12:30] <MonkeyDust> nlici  start with sudo apt)get autoremove to get rid of obsolote packages
[12:30] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: so what now?:)
[12:30] <meet> i think it ubuntu 11.10 would be to slow and sluggish on these specs.. whats ur say?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> nlici  start with sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of obsolote packages
[12:30] <meet> @ shape
[12:30] <shape> meet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:31] <meet> shape: will a live session give me a true idea of how it will work?
[12:31] <nlici> so which one do i have to use as a fax modem program ?
[12:32] <shape> meet: yes. And also Xubuntu in case Ubuntu is too sluggish. Take a look on that page for alternatives.
[12:33] <meet> shape:i tried lubuntu but i like gnome so ditched it for ubuntu 10.04. lubuntu 11.10 worked well but i guess it was bcos of lxfe or that :D
[12:33] <fhsales> People, does anyone know hot to print from a pdf file?
[12:34] <Somelauw> fhsales: Open it in evince and press ctrl-p
[12:34] <shape> meet: I have almost the same system (8 years old), and Ubuntu works perfectly. Except I have 2GB ram rather than 512MB
[12:35] <fhsales> Somelauw:  what is evince? i dont know :?
[12:35] <shape> meet: 11.10
[12:35] <Somelauw> fhsales: your pdf reader. Just double click the pdf to open it. Then go to file and press print.
[12:35] <meet> shape: i guess the ram factor will be vital.. but still i will try the live session.. btw if i post the wine error msg which i got through the terminal while running the game .exe file will it be helpful?
[12:36] <shape> meet: I wouldnt be able to help you with that but someone else might.
[12:37] <meet> ok..
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !find fax | nlici
[12:37] <zayan> I realliy dont know how to register to backtrack chat
[12:37] <Pici> zayan: the folks in #freenode can help you with that
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> zayan  you don't have to, just type /join #backtrack-linux
[12:38] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:38] <hi675445> can we take about xubuntu some times it as grate as ubuntu
[12:38] <hi675445> lol
[12:39] <mcb_> join /#backtrack-linux
[12:40] <Pici> zayan: again, please join #freenode for help registering, they are very helpful there. we like to keep #ubuntu free for Ubuntu support only.
[12:40] <nlici> MonkeyDust@thanks
[12:41] <hi675445> chmod +x promison i xubuntu
[12:42] <nlici> i download the efax but how can i run it even i can not find the icon please help
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> nlici  try alf-f2 efax
[12:43] <nlici> i can not find it from ubuntu s.center do i have to download it from the site?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> nlici  use synaptic
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> or apt-get
[12:46] <rotham> hey.. im trying to copy files to a harddrive i formatted originally with windows 7, and im getting an error about a read only hard file system
[12:46] <rotham> any ideas what would cause this?
[12:46] <nlici> thx
[12:46] <escott> rotham, install ntfs-3g
[12:46] <escott> rotham, then unmount/remount the fs
[12:47] <rotham> escott - already installed
[12:47] <Charlotte4u> Why Ubuntu is better Then Windows 7 ?
[12:48] <KM0201> Charlotte4u: that's a loaded question.. spend some time with Google
[12:49] <mathews> Charlotte4u, feel the freedom with Ubuntu
[12:49] <escott> rotham, then check the output of mount and verify it is being mounted with fuseblk (ntfs-3g) and not in kernel ntfs driver
[12:50] <shape> Charlotte4u: You can watch naughty movies on the web without ever worrying about viruses!!
[12:50] <Stanley00> Charlotte4u: I think the best way to know is finding out what Ubuntu mean and try it yourself
[12:51] <MTRX> o_O
[12:52] <aboudreault> shape, checked glxinfo output and Direct rendering was set to Yes (not opengl)
[12:52] <aboudreault> I use nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:53] <shape> aboudreault: which player
[12:53] <aboudreault> shape, vlc
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Charlotte4u  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[12:53] <AaronMT> !edgy
[12:54] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: interesting link..
[12:55] <bouma> im trying to sort out a wierd issue with my grub menus. i originally had ubuntu 11.10 on sdc2. then i installed the 1204beta 2 to sda1, afterwards i ran update-grub from 11.10 and it detected pangolin and added it to the sdc boot menu. but i want to just boot straight into sda.
[12:58] <bouma> when i run update-grub under 1204, it finds vmlinuz-3.2 from 12.04 and the older ub 11.10 (as well as memtest and a win7). this is what i want, but when i reboot it seems like sda is just redirecting straight to sdc and giving me the old boot menu where precise is under a submenu
[12:58] <bouma> i've looked at /boot/grub/grub.cfg and it looks alright
[12:59] <mmorena> Hola grupo... Hello group!
[12:59] <bouma> grub2 is a bit different from 1, im not sure which of the many grub-* tools might be helpful
[13:00] <gvo> !12.04 | bouma
[13:01] <yzhd> I'm trying to sync cm7 source. I'm following this guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Compile_CyanogenMod_(Linux)  -----      but when I type in the git core command, I get this error: E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate. I read that it was removed because of license issues? Any suggestions on what I can do? Thanks.
[13:02] <chriswk> yzhd: just install openjdk-6-jdk instead
[13:02] <giuseppe_> #ubuntu-it
[13:02] <yzhd> chriswk, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk ?
[13:03] <gvo> yzhd: and remove the sun-java6... from the git command line
[13:03] <chriswk> yzhd: yes
[13:03] <yzhd> gvo, how? Sorry, I'm a newb at ubuntu
[13:03] <chriswk> replace the sun-java6-jdk with openjdk-6-jdk
[13:04] <gvo> You typed in git .... sun-java6 ....  just don't add that package when you type the command.
[13:04] <gvo> Use git-core gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl1.2-dev libesd0-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev squashfs-tools build-essential zip curl libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev  pngcrush schedtool
[13:05] <yzhd> done
[13:05] <yzhd> it's installing :/
[13:05] <yzhd> :)
[13:07] <yzhd> I have a 32-bit system, but I read that gingerbread will only work for 64 bit systems. There is a workaround.. but shall I do that after or before I have synced the source?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> yzhd  you may need ia32-libs
[13:10] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: i thought ia32libs worked the other way around (32bit software on 64bit os)
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> (me re-reads question)
[13:11] <PedroGomes> HI guys, on a preseed operation, how can I chose the option "Guided - reuse partition, SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda)" on partman
[13:11] <PedroGomes> I have tried "d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select Guided - reuse partition, SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda)" but it doesn't work
[13:12] <AnToStArLiGhT> .org
[13:15] <bali> hey
[13:15] <bali> i need an app for my blackberry Bold 9000
[13:16] <bali> one like the blackberry desktop
[13:27] <meet> i installed wine through the software center. i want to install that same software on another pc with no internet connection. where can i find the .deb package of wine?
[13:28] <zykotick9> meet: fyi DEBs you download with any APT program get stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:29] <meet> but the wine package is not there zykotick9
[13:29] <Stanley00> meet: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[13:29] <zykotick9> meet: really, odd.
[13:30] <eldani> someone could please help me with my live stream radio? i want to live steam my desktop using idjc or another software
[13:30] <eldani> i cannot find any helpful advice online
[13:32] <meet> any other place to look for? zykotick9
[13:33] <upset> I'd like to write a theme for Unity 2d, but I've never written one before and I don't think I understand what components Ubuntu still uses. Bare minimum I need what, gtk3, metactiy, and unity themes?
[13:39] <tjiggi_fo> meet, try: whereis
[13:41] <Alyssa_> does rsync -avz delete anything in the dest dir
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> Alyssa_  no, you need --delete for that
[13:41] <Alyssa_> odd…..i wonder why 212gb of data has disappeared
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> 212 is a lot of data to disappear
[13:44] <Alyssa_> yup
[13:44] <iexplore> every one here using ubuntu
[13:45] <iexplore> ??
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> iexplore  most likely yes
[13:45] <eldani> someone could please help me with live streaming my desktop in ubuntu?
[13:46] <eldani> i want to use IDJC but if you suggest other software is ok, this is for an internet radio
[13:47] <Alyssa_> eldani: such as vnc?
[13:48] <eldani> i dunno, i have a radio in caster.fm and idjc
[13:48] <eldani> my goal is to stream live an interview
[13:48] <eldani> using skype
[13:48] <eldani> and if possible, my desktop, but i would be happy with skype
[13:49] <triple-09> assalamualaikum,...
[13:49] <eldani> alyssa, u know how to do this?
[13:52] <Alyssa_> eldani a google search reveals http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577914 … pls don't pm me without asking first
[13:53] <eldani> i already tried that thread...maybe i will have another look, but it did not work
[13:57] <bouma> when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, it doesnt ask for which device to install to? how does it get determined ?
[14:00] <drecute> my NIS server is on windows server and I have configured ubuntu as nis client which works pretty well. with ypcat passwd I can see all the mapped users
[14:00] <drecute> to authenticate with one of them on ubuntu via x11rdp, do I need to setup each of those users locally?
[14:11] <shaneo> can someone assist me with a winbind error on Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/932563/
[14:12] <fartofagony> hi
[14:12] <fartofagony> do games run better on ubuntu / linux?
[14:12] <kbitz> than? Windows? than they used to?
[14:12] <bazhang> !appdb | fartofagony check here
[14:13] <fartofagony> than windows yes
[14:13] <kbitz> some do; some don't
[14:13] <auronandace> fartofagony: want to play windows games, the best platform for that is windows
[14:13] <bazhang> fartofagony, /join #winehq for particular games after checking the appdb
[14:13] <kbitz> the ones that run bettor on linux typically are written to
[14:13] <Tinkerer1> heyhey psad blocked an IP adress for the first time on my server, should I be worried? http://pastebin.com/6gFNnQZU
[14:13] <fartofagony> ah, was thinking of the whole OS using the cpu
[14:14] <fartofagony> ubuntu seems smoother and doesnt run unnessecary things
[14:14] <kbitz> FoA, yes, but windows games typically require all those unnecessary things
[14:15] <kbitz> wine is really good and improving all the time, though.  give it a look
[14:15] <fartofagony> kbitz: wouldnt wine have the things neede to run games as they should be run? those that work in wine
[14:15] <hayden_ru> http://www.winehq.org/
[14:15] <kbitz> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:15] <kbitz> search that page for the game you're looking for and it'll rate its support from nothing to platinum
[14:15] <fartofagony> in the repository, do they have the latest wine?
[14:15] <fartofagony> ahh
[14:15] <fartofagony> thanks
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, No, but it's close...
[14:16] <bazhang> fartofagony, you need to check there, then join the #winehq channel once you have done that for particular apps
[14:16] <fartofagony> thanks guys!
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, You can install the lastest versions of Wine by following the instructions on the WineHQ page to install Wine from PPA.
[14:16] <kbitz> huh, bioshock 1 is wine-platinum
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, The latest version of Wine is wine1.4
[14:16] <kbitz> that's awesome
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> or you could buy a windows key
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> and use windows
[14:17] <kbitz> never buy a windows key.  get somebody else to buy it for you
[14:17] <kbitz> "hey, uhh, i really need windows . . . for work"
[14:17] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[14:17] <kbitz> sorry
[14:23] <erkon> hi, guys.Can you tell me how I can block all udp connections to remote port?
[14:25] <drecute> my NIS server is on windows server and I have configured ubuntu as nis client which works pretty well. with ypcat passwd I can see all the mapped users
[14:25] <drecute> to authenticate with one of them on ubuntu via x11rdp, do I need to setup each of those users locally?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk> On an RHEL6 system, I get password warnings in /var/log/secure.  On an RHEl4.9 system I do not.  Is this a difference in configuration, or a difference between the releases?
[14:25] <liberal> erkon: iptables -I OUTPUT -p udp --dport <dport> -j DROP
[14:26] <bazhang> jhutchins_wk, ask in #rhel or similar
[14:26] <erkon> liberal:  thank you
[14:26] <auronandace> jhutchins_wk: wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> bazhang: Sorry, thought I was there.
[14:26] <liberal> erkon: you'll need to make sure that gets saved and applied at boot.
[14:27] <erkon> this will block all conections to that remote port, the destination does not matter, right?
[14:27] <erkon> how to do that?
[14:27] <Doodie> hi, I want to be able to be logged into my router homepage (192.168.x.x) via its IP address. When I enter IP address of router, the webpage is busy but loads noting.
[14:27] <EriksLV> hi!
[14:27] <liberal> any outbound udp packet to remote port <dport> will not leave the box.
[14:28] <EriksLV> just a quick question: release date for 12.04?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> EriksLV  april 26
[14:28] <erkon> ok.If I put that command in rc.local it will work i guess
[14:28] <EriksLV> thanks MonkeyDust
[14:28] <bazhang> !12.04 | EriksLV
[14:28] <liberal> erkon: I imagine it should, though I am not familiar with ubuntu, or the appropriate way of saving and applying firewall rules in it.
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> auronandace: Sorry, my nick registration lapsed and irssi didn't change channels when I thought it had.
[14:29] <drecute> anyone have an idea?
[14:29] <erkon> ok thank you
[14:29] <bazhang> Doodie, hows your router related to ubuntu support
[14:30] <liberal> iptables has a iptables-save and a iptables-restore binary.
[14:30] <sai> hi
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: You will need to create a home directory for the user somehow.  Not sure how that's usually done in an NIS environment.
[14:30] <liberal> s/appropriate/preferred/
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: Sometimes /home is shared via NFS.
[14:31] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i solaris i use autohome. works pretty well
[14:31] <LinuxFreakD> Mint 12 (I know, not clean Ubuntu but I can't get to their IRC). I just updated NVIDIA to 295.40 and everything seems to be good but when I load into desktop, even though everything looks right, my mouse won't move and my keyboard commands do nothing. Like it is locked up. However it is not locked up as I can still SSH to my box and issue commands. Any suggestions before I give up and reinstall?
[14:32] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, go to mintsupport not here
[14:32] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i just want to know if I need to create those windows NIS users locally on ubuntu before users can authenticate on ubuntu
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang, there's a mint support channel on the ubuntu server, thanks!
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> #join mintsupport
[14:32] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: No.
[14:32] <drecute> FYI, ubuntu is added to windows AD
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> join# mintsupport
[14:32] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, its on spotchat
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> dang been awhile
[14:33] <jhutchins_wk> lin //
[14:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | LinuxFreakD
[14:33] <auronandace> !mint | LinuxFreakD
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang. I don't know what that means. I have not been in IRC in about a year or two
[14:33] <jhutchins_wk> Ah, lag
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> thx
[14:33] <borsin> LinuxFreakD: did you try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:34] <auronandace> LinuxFreakD: /connect irc.spotchat.org (then /join #linuxmint-help)
[14:34] <LinuxFreakD> borsin, ya. I don't think it's my drivers. I spent about 4 hours working on that and now it all loads up properly, nvidia appears to be working right. Just locks up the desktop.
[14:34] <LinuxFreakD> auronandace: thanks!
[14:35] <borsin> LinuxFreakD: it will rewrite your entire xorg.conf and possibly fix the mouse problem
[14:35] <bazhang> borsin, feel free to support him there
[14:36] <fartofagony> if installing wubi, will windows and wubi be up and ru8nning at the same time?
[14:36] <LinuxFreakD> borsin: I have already done it a couple times however I will run it again and report back in a min
[14:36] <|Anthony|> update manager is prompting me to install nvidia-modaliases. I have installed nvidia binary from their site. Can i safely install this update, or can i safely ignore it?
[14:37] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, feel free to go to PM or in the mintsupport channel
[14:37] <bazhang> fartofagony, no they wont
[14:37] <fartofagony> oohh
[14:37] <fartofagony> nice
[14:38] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i tried to authenticate with one of those nis users on ubuntu, but it didn't work
[14:38] <auronandace> fartofagony: but the ntfs partition will be in use
[14:38] <bazhang> |Anthony|, well if I understand you correctly, you went outside the package manager for that
[14:39] <|Anthony|> bazhang, to install the nvidia driver, yes
[14:39] <l3d> is there a way to export and then inport the sources list from ubuntu to another one
[14:40] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang: I am going to mint also to talk to them though I doubt the issue is specific to mint unless it's due to lightdm. The only reason I am still here is I was trying the suggestions of others related to NVIDIA which isn't distro specific. I will be gone shortly, for not pretend I didn't use the word mint.
[14:40] <auronandace> l3d: copy and paste the file, make sure you are doing it for the same release (don't mix releases)
[14:41] <LinuxFreakD> borsin: Ya, tried it again and no luck. Probably not an nvidia problem. Going to talk to the mint guys before I do a reinstall.
[14:41] <l3d> right both 10.10
[14:41] <cloudgeek> let i type clear on bash it take me top of it , but how can i undo this command if i need that data again
[14:41] <Tinkerer1> heyhey psad blocked an IP adress for the first time on my server, should I be worried? http://pastebin.com/6gFNnQZU
[14:41] <auronandace> l3d: 10.10 is no longer supported
[14:42] <auronandace> !10.10 | l3d
[14:42] <LinuxFreakD> auronandace: connection refused when I tried to connect to spotchat
[14:43] <cloudgeek> how we can undo the clear command on the bash
[14:43] <ikonia> LinuxFreakD: not our problem, read the linux mint website
[14:43] <auronandace> LinuxFreakD: sorry we can't help with that
[14:43] <l3d> well thats to bad I hate the way 11.10 or high looks and feels the gm sucks but that my opinion.
[14:43] <auronandace> l3d: is it just unity you don't like? i use 11.10 without unity
[14:44] <LinuxFreakD> ikonia: ah well thanks for politely letting me know it's an issue with mint and not something wrong with IRC. I will check their website
[14:44] <l3d> is there a d/l for 11.10 with out unity
[14:44] <ikonia> it's not an issue with mint, the irc channel is up and running, I'm in it. The details of how to connect are listed on the mint website
[14:45] <auronandace> l3d: sure, xubuntu, kubuntu and lubuntu and of course the mini iso
[14:45] <l3d> no normal gnome
[14:46] <bazhang> !notunity | l3d
[14:46] <auronandace> l3d: gnome3 is available via the repos, you'd need to use the mini iso
[14:46] <bazhang> auronandace, 11.10 uses it already
[14:46] <auronandace> bazhang: i meant that if you wanted to avoid having unity at all
[14:47] <fartofagony> how hard is it to find and install graphic card drivers in ubuntu?
[14:47] <bazhang> l3d, gnome3 is the 'normal gnome' unity is a shell. as is gnome-shell
[14:47] <auronandace> fartofagony: depends on graphics
[14:47] <l3d> ok
[14:47] <bazhang> fartofagony, depends on the card. ancient ones, or Sis and the like
[14:47] <fartofagony> auronandace: like manufactur?
[14:47] <auronandace> fartofagony: yes
[14:48] <bazhang> fartofagony, yes. intel is in the kernel generally
[14:48] <bazhang> well dkms
[14:48] <fartofagony> auronandace: know about ati radeon ones? thinking of uninstalling windows completely. am afraid of failure, then id be stuck with nothing
[14:49] <auronandace> fartofagony: wrong person to ask, i use nvidia
[14:49] <auronandace> !ati | fartofagony
[14:49] <fartofagony> ahh ok, thakns
[14:50] <renode> how do you view a daemonized process?
[14:50] <fl1bbl3> what do you mean "view"?
[14:50] <renode> such as over ssh
[14:50] <fl1bbl3> define "view"
[14:51] <renode> not the fact that its running, but the output
[14:51] <renode> sorry about that
[14:51] <fl1bbl3> depends on the process
[14:52] <renode> if the proccess allows it, how would i go about doing it?
[14:53] <van> -*-
[14:55] <fl1bbl3> renode: usually with a daemonized process you would expect it to have logging enabled
[14:56] <fl1bbl3> therefore usually /var
[14:56] <fl1bbl3> or syslog
[14:56] <username> amos
[14:57] <renode> ahhh ty fl1bbl3
[14:57] <Iszak> Is there any way to go up directories (recursively) until a folder name is matched?
[14:58] <Iszak> through the command line that is. e.g. cd ..*foo or something
[14:58] <Iszak> because often the folder I want is a few levels up say three, and I cba doing cd ../../../
[14:59] <escott> Iszak, ksh has some more advanced globbing it might do something like that
[14:59] <Iszak> kornshell?
[15:00] <Iszak> escott: can you give me an example or a url to read more about ksh?
[15:02] <escott> Iszak, i dont use them myself i just know that one of the things ksh/zsh are noted for are globbing
[15:02] <escott> Iszak, http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/07/fancy-globbing-with-zsh-on-linux-and.html
[15:03] <Iszak> epic
[15:04] <escott> Iszak, or just pwd with some awk
[15:04] <Iszak> that's too long tbh
[15:04] <Iszak> and that only works for parents, what about children?
[15:04] <fellayaboy> hey usually ill do cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history and itll erase all my history but when i put it in the rc.local stgartup script it never works...i know rc.local is activiated
[15:04] <Iszak> sure, find command, but again, less than desirable.
[15:09] <escott> Iszak, foo(){
[15:09] <escott> > cd `pwd | sed -e "s#\(.*/$1\)/.*#\1#"`
[15:09] <escott> > }
[15:10] <escott> Iszak, and what you are describing wouldn't work for children. what if there are multiple subdirs matching the pattern?
[15:10] <Iszak> you'd just match the first one.
[15:10] <Iszak> bang, done.
[15:11] <Iszak> or print out the possible opportunities citing ambiguity
[15:13] <escott> fellayaboy, have you checked roots bash_history. I'm pretty sure its gone
[15:14] <txdv> how do i make services stop starting automatically on startup?
[15:14] <escott> fellayaboy, also there is a command for this history -c
[15:15] <fellayaboy> escott oh so hisgtory -c will clear it
[15:15] <dr_willis> txdv:  upstart services get started from their /etc/init/whateer.conf file. you can rename it to be like whatever.dontrun (is one way)
[15:15] <dr_willis> !upstart
[15:15] <fellayaboy> oh look at that ur right
[15:15] <fellayaboy> thanks
[15:16] <txdv> yeah but there must be some default naming conventions or tools that do that job for me
[15:16] <fellayaboy> so if i where to do cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history it will only clear the roots history rather than the user?
[15:16] <fellayaboy> if i put it in rc.local??...
[15:16] <dr_willis> txdv:  not sure of any gui tools that do that for upstart
[15:16] <txdv> command lines are good enough
[15:17] <dr_willis> rename foo.conf to foo.dontrun is all i ever do ;)
[15:17] <txdv> the dirty linux way
[15:17] <txdv> oo you bad boy
[15:17] <dr_willis> txdv:  err.. its how the upstart docs say to do it i belive.
[15:17] <dr_willis> or edit the .conf file and put some dontstart item in it i recall.
[15:18] <txdv> how about the rc* directories?
[15:18] <txdv> the service i want not to start appears to be in thereand not in init
[15:19] <dr_willis> those are not 'upstart' services.  those are the old sysv type services.
[15:19] <escott> fellayaboy, you can put it in rc.local you just have to think about who the script runs as. what i dont understand is why you would want to do this
[15:19] <vevais> Hello
[15:19] <txdv> any keywords i can use to google them
[15:19] <dr_willis> !sysv
[15:19] <txdv> yeah im using 11.04
[15:19] <fellayaboy> escott so i could clear the bash history of course why else
[15:19] <escott> fellayaboy, but why?
[15:19] <dr_willis> upstart is actually handling the sysv stuff these days.
[15:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, im trying to install libffi and it's hanging on the line "libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libffi_convenience.a" - anyone got any ideas whats going on?
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is in the make
[15:20] <escott> fellayaboy, if you just want less bash history thats easily modified by changing .bashrc. if you want to disable history you can do that
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> hang on
[15:20] <fellayaboy> dont like people viewing my history..file i edit...plus loony balloonies trying to copy my commands and doing stuff they dont know how to do
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> i had the console scrolled up *facepalm*
[15:21] <fellayaboy> escott how do i disable bash history
[15:21] <dr_willis> make the history file only readble by root.. :)
[15:21] <escott> fellayaboy, presumably set these to 0 # for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1)
[15:21] <escott> HISTSIZE=1000
[15:21] <escott> HISTFILESIZE=2000
[15:21] <snaky90> Hi
[15:21] <FloodBot1> escott: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <yeik> My ubuntu box is competely freezing. it has done it twice in the last two weeks. I can't ping it, or get alt+sysreq reisub to even do anything.
[15:23] <fellayaboy> OK HOLD ON brb
[15:23] <yeik> is there any logs or anything i can look at that might hint what it is doing or causing it to freeze?
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> yeik  demsg
[15:23] <snaky90> If I install Ubuntu 12.04 daily now, Ubuntu will update every day before de final build ¿?
[15:24] <dr_willis> snaky90:  yes
[15:24] <yeik> you mean dmesg?
[15:24] <snaky90> ok
[15:24] <dr_willis> !final
[15:24] <yeik> MonkeyDust, you mean dmesg?
[15:24] <snaky90> These updates would be like having the final version, right ?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> !dmesg| yeik
[15:25] <dr_willis> i always install the rc, then update the day or 2 befor release.. then wait a week or 2 after release to update again. due to the servers getting overloaded on release day
[15:26] <fellayaboy> escott perfect that worked for me
[15:26] <fellayaboy> excellent
[15:26] <yeik> MonkeyDust, you originally said demsg, which is why i asked for clarification
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> yeik  it was a typo
[15:27] <fellayaboy> clear
[15:27]  * yeik nods
[15:27] <yeik> thats why I asked.
[15:28] <yeik> Is there anything important I am suppose to see other than it initializing hardware and stuff since i rebooted? it doesn't seem to have anything from the time it was frozen
[15:28] <balaber> hi
[15:29] <dr_willis> dmesg logs are not kept over reboots.
[15:29] <balaber> can someone help me with my suspend to ram isue?
[15:29] <yeik> how does that help me figure out why it froze?
[15:29] <dr_willis> monitoring dmesg via ssh from a remote box may catch somthing when it freezes
[15:30] <corehook> hi all, after upgrading (dont remember what packets) my ubuntu cant startup...i send 'text nomodeset' params in grub and see that loading stand at "Stopping userpsace bootsplash" [ OK ]
[15:30] <dr_willis> could be some hardware glitz, or power surge also.  or other very hard to catch reason.
[15:30]  * yeik nods
[15:30] <yeik> I usually am over ssh with screen.
[15:30] <fellayaboy> ive been having a problem with my vpn server..it seems that it wont take any kind of vpn..not even pptp or openvpn...i just keep getting a failed to connect....it use to work but all of a sudden it stopped...even without me editing anything..all i did was an update...my vpn server is ubuntu 10.04 desktop edition
[15:31] <yeik> it happened overnight, the computer is attached to a ups
[15:31] <fellayaboy> if i do a ifconfig i see as0t0 through as0t3 connection
[15:31] <fellayaboy> i did a iptables -F but nothing seems to work right...what could it be...could it be bugs?
[15:32] <djszapi> Hey! Is it okay if the daemon part of my project is started automatically by an upstart job put into the /etc/init/ folder with the ubuntu desktop version ? Is there a better interface for that like we had /etc/init/apps on Harmattan ?
[15:32] <balaber> can someone help me with my suspend to ram isue? the suspend section looks good but wen i wont to resume i always get a reboot or a "new session" instead of my old suspended session
[15:34] <Steeltip> Is there anyone who would be so kind to tell me if i can reserve local outgoing ports for an application, i.e. apache
[15:35] <balaber> @steetltip do you want to see your open ports?
[15:35] <escott> Steeltip, only privileged processes can listen on ports <1024. what more do you need?
[15:36] <Steeltip> no, its the following problem: my apache listens on more then 4000 Ports and sometimes when i restart my apache i process like mount.nfs uses a port my apache is configured for , too
[15:36] <balaber> i need also help with my suspend sh** :)
[15:36] <Steeltip> any ideas ?
[15:37] <escott> Steeltip, you can restrict ports with iptables to specific groups. thats probably what you want to do
[15:38] <Steeltip> do you have a source for reading escott ?
[15:39] <Steeltip> how can i configure to block all apps on port 4000 - 8000 ? and only let apache bind the ports !?
[15:40] <escott> Steeltip, this shows how to prevent a user from using a port. the reverse would be to deny all and then enable that user http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block-outgoing-network-access-for-a-single-user-from-my-server-using-iptables.html
[15:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. not sure if iptables has a per app type feature or not.
[15:40] <dr_willis> been ages since ive looked at iptables. :)
[15:40] <Steeltip> thanks for the hint escott, i will try
[15:41] <dr_willis> apache does run as the apache user i thought. so a per user blocking would be as good i guess.
[15:41] <escott> dr_willis, it would have to be by uid/gid. not sure how well it would work. esp if root opens the socket on behalf of the app
[15:41] <dr_willis> yea - this is the sort of stuff ive not needed to use in years...
[15:42] <dr_willis> i just recall some beginner guide stating 'windows blocks based on app' 'linux blocks based on port'    but that may have been a very very overgeneralization
[15:44] <escott> Steeltip, alternately take the ports yourself and then give them to apps you want to have them
[15:46] <savr> hi
[15:46] <savr> I am experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-rvm/+bug/935590
[15:47] <savr> do I add group admin?
[15:47] <kell> please is anyone using mac os dual boot with ubuntu.is there any driver problem or smthing like that?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !mac| kell start here
[15:48] <kell> thks
[15:49] <Lil> What generates the motd?
[15:50] <savr> oh boy
[15:51] <savr> ubuntu 12.04 is buggy like hell
[15:51] <savr> this is like the 5th bug I ran into
[15:51] <escott> !precise | savr
[15:51] <bardyl> ncake-pirates.org
[15:51] <savr> are we going to make it for an april release
[15:52] <savr> escott, I know it is beta...
[15:52] <zenmaster> Just got my Dell PowerEdge 2800. :) Best home server I presonally have ever had.
[15:52] <bazhang> savr, wrong channel
[15:52] <savr> can't run eclipse or rvm
[15:53] <zenmaster> 16gb memory. Amazing to me.
[15:53]  * P1rate say happy easter
[15:57] <P1rate> Well i guess no IT problems today :/
[16:02] <redragoonz> is anyone here i have a quick question
[16:03] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I had to install opera via dpkg terminal since software center and synaptic gave me trouble... Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal as well?:) Cheers!
[16:03] <raj> is ~ a valid character in most operating systems?
[16:03] <raj> for a filename
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> "quick questions" often turn out to be most difficult ones, shoot!
[16:03] <datruth> I'm running kubuntu 11.10 and my /etc/apt/source.list has been removed where can I get another source.list file from?
[16:04] <redragoonz> how do i resize my home partition i have 10.04 lts on the one partition now but i need to resize my second partiton for backtrack 5 how would i do this considering i am mounted to my home drive?
[16:05] <rasusto> raj - yes, in fact emacs by default appends ~ to filenames to denote old versions
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Anyone?:)
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> redragoonz  use gparted on a live cd, you cannot modify mounted partitions
[16:05] <raj> rasusto, thank you
[16:05] <raj> rasusto, what might be a good alternative?
[16:05] <redragoonz> ok and running it like that wont hurt my current unbunyu?
[16:05] <raj> besides _
[16:05] <Onewhohelps> hey raj
[16:05] <raj> I need to organize my files in such a manner
[16:06] <raj> hi
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> redragoonz  first backup your data to be sure
[16:06] <raj> rasusto, I say that, because I don't want these files to be confused for 'old' files by emacs users
[16:06] <Lil> What generates the motd?
[16:06] <redragoonz> thank you /monkeydust
[16:07] <escott> Lil, /etc/motd or you can configure an application to do it
[16:07] <hi675445> hi
[16:08] <bazhang> hi
[16:08] <hi675445> need dlp
[16:08] <bazhang> what?
[16:08] <hi675445> xubuntu user here
[16:08] <Lil> escott; I know that. But something generates it. Because it shows the server load and etc. I'm curious where/what script generates it.
[16:08] <bazhang> try #xubuntu
[16:08] <Pl3nar1us> hello all
[16:08] <Roj> سلام
[16:08] <Roj> تو ssh چطوری می تونم یه اسکریپت رو ران کنم
[16:08] <Roj> یه چنتا دستور ساده bash
[16:08] <hi675445> english please
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !en| Roj
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> beautiful characters, tho
[16:09] <oCean> !ir | Roj
[16:09] <satyanash> Unicode!
[16:09]  * satyanash wonders how they learn them
[16:10] <satyanash> If you select them, they get reversed..
[16:10] <Lint> satyanash, it
[16:10]  * rinzler wonders how they type them...
[16:10] <Lint> ´s  a bug in XChat
[16:11] <hi675445> love xchat sick and xubuntu
[16:11] <Roj> how i can run a bash script in ssh
[16:11] <hi675445> i see u guys
[16:12] <veryape> hrm, all of a sudden my 12.04 beta is not able to load jpeg/bnp/png and other image files in any of my graphical interfaces, they work if i open them in firefox but not in their defaults apps, any idea about what it could be and how to fix it? didn't find any useful information browsing ubuntuforums :/
[16:12] <need_helpp> hey, i need help please SKYPE it consume cpu 100% always i am using 64-bit ubuntu  , how i can fix it pls?
[16:12] <rasusto> Roj, what seems to be the problem?
[16:13] <Roj> -bash: ./download.sh: command not found
[16:13] <btorch> hello .. is there a way to have ubuntu automatically skip trying to mount drives that are not avaiable when they are still in the fstab ? right now book hangs waiting for someone to press "S" .. I've tried adding "nobootwait" into fstab but then that makes the box hang for a long time and I'm not sure what that is yet
[16:13] <Roj> chmod +x download.sh
[16:13] <Lil> escott; Found it. /etc/update-motd.d
[16:13] <rasusto> try adding the ssh command to the begining of the script
[16:13] <need_helpp> hey, i need help please SKYPE it consume cpu 100% always i am using 64-bit ubuntu  , how i can fix it pls?
[16:14] <rasusto> skype is non-free software that doesn't respect your freedums. The solution is to stop using skype.
[16:14] <Pessimist> need_helpp, I'm sorry but repeating the question doesn't help much. And afaik Ubuntu doesn't officialy support it because it's closed source
[16:15] <need_helpp> Pessimist,  sorry is there any software supported by ubuntu for skype ?
[16:16] <Pessimist> need_helpp: Skype is closed source and you won't get support here. Maybe try official skype forums
[16:16] <veryape> no idea about the problem with loading jpeg/bnp/png files? just getting "unrecognized image file format"
[16:17] <need_helpp> Pessimist,  ok thx is there any software i can use for voice/cam on ubuntu ?
[16:18] <meganerd> need_helpp: a few people I know use ekiga
[16:18] <Pessimist> need_helpp: Pidgin/Empathy
[16:19]  * sipior just shakes his head.
[16:19] <meganerd> need_helpp: I don't use video chat very often (maybe three times per year)
[16:20] <mimmo82> salve
[16:20] <mimmo82> !list
[16:21] <sipior> need_helpp: which version are you running?
[16:22] <need_helpp> sipior, ubuntu 64-bit 11.04
[16:22] <sipior> need_helpp: sorry, which skype version?
[16:22] <yeik> well cpuburn is running, i started 4 of them as it is a quad core
[16:22] <ccssddee> is there any linux comptabible newer than 2 out there?
[16:22] <ccssddee> is there any linux comptabible newer than 2 skyp out there?
[16:23] <need_helpp> sipior, 2.2
[16:23] <sipior> need_helpp: the beta?
[16:23] <need_helpp> sipior,  ya there's stable one ?
[16:23] <need_helpp> for ubuntu ?
[16:24] <Sarajevo> hi
[16:25] <sipior> need_helpp: looks like they've removed the 2.1 download links. wonderful.
[16:27] <fartofagony> do i have to type commands and stuff to install skype ?
[16:27] <auronandace> !skype | fartofagony
[16:28] <czytelnik> ED21K -34U
[16:29] <magicJ> I have a system that when I boot in recovery mode, or when I mount it after booting from a live USB stick all appears normal.  BUT, when I try and do passwd, or for that matter edit a file I get a message that it is write protected - how is this possible - If I am the root, which I am in those case
[16:30] <xharx__> when i use the update manager i get the following error message: why. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/407392/
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> hello, guys
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> do there's anyway to cleanup my ubuntu from all installed packages?
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> and live only my personal files?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  fresh install
[16:31] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: dificult for me, bro :(
[16:31] <DelphiWorld> mongy_: if i can set it up through console that would be fun. otherwise i can't read the screen
[16:32] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, not without nuking your system, you need to copy your files off manually via console and fresh-install, or just deal with excess cruft on your system
[16:32] <lombardi> google
[16:32] <EvilResistance> or via whatever method
[16:33] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: i can't use ubuntu installed without voice; i'm looking to set it up through a voicing system through serial console but that soon a bit dificult
[16:33] <Mikero_> Hi, can anyone help me with my wireless internet connection. It broke after updating to 12.04 and now chokes up every couple of minutes or so.
[16:34] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, i dont think there's anything that can help yo udo that...
[16:34] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: yes, that's my actual issue :(
[16:34] <EvilResistance> !12.04 | Mikero_
[16:34] <Debro> how i can set openJDK to work in chromium?
[16:34] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, then i think you're SOL
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  that's the easies way
[16:34] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: would be glad to make a automated boot menu to enable serial console
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  if you have a separate /home partition, fresh install takes about 15 minutes
[16:35] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: i can backup my data; issue is how to fresh install it without eyes; that's all
[16:36] <Mikero_> EvilResistance: Thanks, so I'll hope waiting will fix it then
[16:37] <jjgalvez__> My computer just started crashing! I am trying to get a good backup but last night and today its been crashing before the backup is complete, any thoughts on which logs I should be looking in to trouble shoot?
[16:37] <EvilResistance> Mikero_, no, you should /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there is what i was saying
[16:40] <foobArrr> is there an easy way to bulk rename directories? I tried thunar rename and pyrenamer, but either I'm blind, or those only work with normal files and not directories.
[16:40] <roelforg> @jjgalvez Every one? Nah, try dmesg
[16:40] <roelforg> @foobArr bash script
[16:41] <jjgalvez__> roelforg: looking there now, so far not finding anything helpful :(
[16:42] <Pici> foobArrr: a combination of find and rename would work.  something like: find /some/path -type d -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/foo/bar/'
[16:42] <roelforg> @jjgalvez You could try posting on the forums, a lot of people can help you there and it's easier then on a irc;;;; but it's slower
[16:42] <foobArrr> I'll try that, thanks
[16:42] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I had to install opera via dpkg terminal since software center and synaptic gave me trouble... Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal as well?:) Cheers!
[16:46] <jjgalvez__> roelforg: just did that thanks
[16:53] <masterkiller136> hello ubuntu users
[16:53] <roelforg> hello masterkiller136
[16:53] <longrifle0x> hello guys
[16:54] <triple-09> helooo :-D
[16:55] <triple-09> does anyone here used to programming with gambas? any one?
[16:56] <Scunizi> What thrashes a harddrive more.. accessing the system portion of the install or user data?
[16:56] <lacrymology> I just changed one of the files in ~/.gnome/apps, how can I have gnome reload the launchers?
[16:57] <karolus98> hello :) One I launch Linux, it alters  my grub.cfg, so Kubuntu becomes default OS (again). How to stop this and set Windows to default, permanently ?
[16:58] <llutz> karolus98: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober && sudo update-grub
[16:58] <datruth> I'm running kubuntu 11.10 and my /etc/apt/source.list has been removed where can I get another source.list file from?
[16:59] <karolus98> llutz: After changing default OS to my favorite, or before?
[17:00] <llutz> karolus98: this will put your windows (or better: any non-linux-OS found) first to the menu
[17:00] <jrib> datruth: you should be able to use software-properties-gtk to generate a new one
[17:00] <karolus98> llutz: Thanks : )
[17:00] <Scunizi> datruth: you may also have a sources.list~ as a backup.. just rename it.
[17:01] <sentriz> after doing 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell' it did loads of fancy stuff and is now stuck on Ldconfig deferred proccessing now taking place
[17:01] <Scunizi> datruth: if not you can use mine as the basis.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/932784/
[17:02] <karolus98> And last one ; D I don't know why, but Muon doesn't see most packages ,e.g. gcc, mesa-utils, etc... On the second machine it does work fine. Nothing has been changed. Any ideas?
[17:02] <datruth> Scunizi: thanks
[17:02] <chrisinthedark> I found this tool, I hope it will be helpful for you --> Pick random things at www.worandom.com
[17:02] <sentriz> after doing 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell' it did loads of fancy stuff and is now stuck on Ldconfig deferred proccessing now taking place
[17:02] <roelforg> sentriz, let it process
[17:02] <sentriz> ok
[17:02] <sentriz> so its doing something?
[17:02] <roelforg> it needs to update stuff
[17:02] <roelforg> yes
[17:02] <roelforg> the hd should be going crazy
[17:02] <sentriz> oh okay :D estimated time?
[17:03] <roelforg> dunno, depends. It's reindexing libs.
[17:03] <sentriz> Okay thank you :)
[17:04] <karolus98> Scunizi: could you post this list to somewhere, where I can download it as plain text without creating Launchpad account ;  )
[17:06] <datruth> Scunizi: http://pastebin.com/sZPxsHZ2 I am getting this even tho I dont see the url in the source.list
[17:06] <Scunizi> karolus98: ther's a "download as text" button.. shouldn't need a launchpad account to see the post.
[17:06] <i7c> i have a text file on my external harddrive, no suddenly the textfiles appear as #filename.txt# as well... anyone knows which program does that? o.O
[17:07] <datruth> nvm mind found it with the tool jrib suggested
[17:07] <karolus98> Scunizi: I don't mind. It redirects me to https://login.launchpad.net/8Dskq6bVp11hWsmV/+decide (formally: creating an account ;) )
[17:08] <Scunizi> datruth: what was the issue? why was it doing that?
[17:08] <TzeM> Know anyone how to find the package xchat irc in launchpad for translation?
[17:08] <Scunizi> karolus98: do you have a different pastebin account in mind?  I did this from cli automatically with pastebinit.
[17:09] <karolus98> Scunizi: Ok, solved ; ]
[17:09] <Scunizi> karolus98: How?  highlight > copy > paste ??
[17:09] <karolus98> Scunizi: No. Create an account, log, see as plain : ]
[17:10] <Scunizi> karolus98: ah.. I didn't realize that the paste's were tied to a launchpad account.
[17:10] <benjamin_> ss
[17:10] <benjamin_> cc
[17:10] <benjamin_> sa va???
[17:10] <benjamin_> enculer
[17:10] <benjamin_> cc
[17:10] <benjamin_> sa va???
[17:11] <karolus98> Scunizi: However, It's solved..  : ] ( By passing-by )
[17:11] <tensorpudding> !fr | benjamin_
[17:11] <benjamin_> coucou
[17:11] <bazhang> benjamin_, stop that
[17:11] <benjamin_> erghdodbkhfhfdui dfuy ghbsusb xydbxuqbxyedvu qshyxdvdgtayerjsbterque
[17:11]  * Scunizi boing
[17:11] <benjamin_> okaz
[17:12] <Stelpa> Could someone help me disable the Shift-F10 keyboard shortcut?
[17:12] <TzeM> Know anyone how to find the package xchat irc in launchpad for translation?
[17:15] <Scunizi> TzeM: check https://launchpad.net/xchat or join #xchat and ask
[17:16] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:16] <TzeM> Scunizi: tnx you
[17:16] <whitekidney> What plugin can I use to see windows media player web content?
[17:18] <Scunizi> whitekidney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6051/how-to-install-windows-media-player-plugin-on-chromium
[17:18] <karolus98> thank you for assistance, bye ;)
[17:18] <TzeM> i find the http://translationproject.org/domain/xchat.html
[17:18] <sentriz|netbook> @roelforg - its still going -.- :P
[17:18] <TzeM> if someone need the site for translation
[17:19] <roelforg> sentriz, i once had it do that for 30 min, it depends on the install size
[17:19] <aakash> hey...can anyone tell me is there a 3d designing software in ubuntu...???
[17:19] <sentriz|netbook> its been nearly an hour now :P
[17:19] <Scunizi> aakash: like CAD software?
[17:19] <aakash> Scunizi : no idea about cad
[17:20] <aakash> is it like maya or something?>
[17:20] <Stelpa> so nobody can help me?
[17:20] <Scunizi> aakash: what do you want to design?  products.. graphics/video .. maya I think has a community edition.. there's also Blender
[17:20] <xichael> "missing operating system" is all i get when i try to boot from usb. i've used the Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com to load 11.10 Desktop onto the drive. any ideas what's wrong?
[17:21] <aakash> i am looking for a 3d designing software where i can design high definition objects and make them animate
[17:21] <roelforg> xichael, does your mobo support usb-boot?
[17:21] <sirriffsalot>  Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal? Had to install opera through dpkg...
[17:21] <xichael> yes. it's a dell mini 1018
[17:22] <padhu> xichael: from ubuntu or windows?
[17:22] <Scunizi> aakash: Blender.. there's lots of tutorials, examples etc.. it's in the repositories through the software center or synaptic.. also check out http://www.blender.org/
[17:22] <roelforg> xichael, is the usb in the boot order before the hd
[17:23] <roelforg> padhu, it doesn't boot any os, (i think)
[17:23] <xichael> yes, i'm using the f12 boot menu
[17:23] <Stelpa> i can't find anything on google, please someone help
[17:23] <starving_fridge> hi
[17:23] <padhu> xichael: install multisystem, then reinstall. then try again
[17:23] <starving_fridge> i've got a question
[17:23] <Scunizi> Stelpa: "anything" is hard to search for.
[17:23] <roelforg> xichael, modify the bootorder, i'm thinking a bios bug prevents it from listening ;)
[17:23] <Stelpa> Scunizi: i've stated my problem several times
[17:24] <starving_fridge> how to change a number of workplaces in 12.04
[17:24] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:24] <xichael> i'll try that...
[17:24] <padhu> xichael: Multi OS system?
[17:24] <Scunizi> Stelpa: well... perhaps there are people that have joined after your last post and didn't see what you posted previously....
[17:24] <aakash> scunizi: thanx got it
[17:24] <LukeNukem> How can i create a launcher
[17:24] <LukeNukem> in GNOME 3?
[17:24] <xichael> i'd like to ditch windows, and just have ubuntu (or lubuntu)
[17:24] <Stelpa> Scunizi: i see
[17:25] <Scunizi> aakash: there's a pretty big learning curve.. grab a beginning tutorial to help you get started.. it's a very capable program
[17:25] <roelforg> xichael, no cd/dvd drive?
[17:25] <coolroot> hi...i'm using ubuntu 10.04 lts i got Linux coolroot 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.35 or something.....how can i do that?
[17:26] <roelforg> coolroot, apt-get my friend
[17:26] <aakash> thanx for info...
[17:26] <Scunizi> coolroot: the latest LTS release is about to be released with a much newer kernel.. sure you don't just want to upgrade?
[17:26] <xichael> no, it's a netbook... i just switched the boot order to no avail
[17:26] <kjs> Looking for linux users for my new community site, if anyone is interested hit up http://nixguru.com
[17:26] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:26] <xichael> it's still "missing operating system"
[17:26] <bazhang> kjs, dont advertise here
[17:26] <roelforg> xichael, can the usb boot other machines?
[17:26] <guntbert> kjs: don't advertise here, thx
[17:26] <xichael> i'll try...
[17:26] <sentriz> How to I edit the settigs for the side bar? :)
[17:27] <Scunizi> Stelpa: a quick google search turned up https://ubuntuincident.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[17:27] <coolroot> Scunizi,  what distro is it!? is it 10.04 lts? i just don't get it sorry lol
[17:28] <blah1> anyone using ubuntu on Macbookpro and resolved the issue where touch pad stops working randomly?
[17:28] <blah1> i've googled the shit out of that topic lots of hits but nothing definitive answer
[17:28] <Scunizi> coolroot: 10.04LTS came out in April of 2010.  Sometime this month we should be getting the official release of 12.04 LTS .. both are ubuntu. 12.04 being the newest
[17:28] <jdhfr> my unity box is absolutely empty. how to fix?
[17:28] <blah1> btw, i'm on 12.04 desktop x64 daily as of 2 days ago.   problem also was on 11.10
[17:28] <sacarlson> coolroot: you might find a later version of the kernel in the ppa repository if not in your present repository list in synaptic
[17:29] <roelforg> coolroot, sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:29] <roelforg> jdhfr, what do you mean with "empty"
[17:29] <home> hello my problem is... there are some libreries that are not abaliable in ubuntu 11.10
[17:30]  * Scunizi AFK
[17:30] <roelforg> home, soo... Just compile them yourself
[17:30] <jdhfr> there is nothing there
[17:30] <jdhfr> only icon with arrow in the bottom
[17:30] <sentriz> How to I edit the settigs for the side bar? :)
[17:30] <roelforg> jdhfr, empty hd?
[17:30] <Stelpa> Scunizi: that is how to disable F10, not shift-f10
[17:30] <jdhfr> empty what?
[17:31] <marscher> hi
[17:31] <bluebomber> Hi, I'm on 12.04 32bit, and when I login using the Ubuntu DE (instead of Ubuntu 2D), it works for a bit, but then when I start to scroll in Firefox, the window's contents flicker, then the entire desktop environment freezes. I can still move the mouse, though.
[17:31] <home> how, because i tried, but it shows me an error
[17:31] <roelforg> jdhfr, sorry timing issue... Can you describe the arrow? or post in the forums with a screenshot
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> bluebomber  ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:31] <marscher> does somebody know if you can parameterize qtiplot python scripts?
[17:31] <home> using the ubuntu software center
[17:31] <bluebomber> Thanks, MonkeyDust.
[17:31] <marscher> i could not figure it out
[17:31] <roelforg> home, generally you do ./configure followed by make and make install (you need build-essential(
[17:31] <jdhfr> it is home icon with an arrow above
[17:31] <sacarlson> bluebomber: stick with ubuntu 10.04 for another year if you want stable
[17:32] <StephaneScot> blahl: no idea how to fully fix it so it doesn't ever happen, but when it does just pull up a terminal control-alt-t and then remove and re-add the trackpad module (bcm5974).
[17:32] <home> i download them, and i made a sudo dpkg -i
[17:32] <roelforg> jdfhr, try clicking on the cog when logging in, and click on the unity entry
[17:33] <blah1> StephaneScot, awesome advice.  Thanks!
[17:33] <roelforg> home, tell me which lib
[17:33] <home> and many mistakes starts
[17:33] <StephaneScot> No problem.
[17:33] <mesenga> hi.. how to compact a file and upload him in a single command.. i saw this but don't remember how to do.. something using pipe..
[17:33] <home> ok hold on i will turn my lamp top on
[17:34] <blah1> StephaneScot, btw, dunno if you tried 12.04 yet but it fixes the BCM4331 wifi stability issues such as wireless N speed.
[17:34] <JPeterson> how do i change the tcp and udp timeouts? i.e. when my system drops idle udp connections and tcp connections in different states such as TIME_WAIT
[17:34] <blah1> my life so much better now on this mbp w/ 12.04
[17:34] <roelforg> home, "lamp top" can i use that as the hostname for my laptop?
[17:34] <guntbert> !12-04 | blah1
[17:34] <blah1> gundy, ?
[17:34] <guntbert> !12.04 | blah1
[17:35] <JPeterson> are they all in /proc/sys/net/ipv4?
[17:35] <magicJ> I have a system where even if I boot from the memory stick and moiunt it I can not write to the files.  If I boot in recovery mode and sign on as root I seem to be on but I can not write files.  How does this happen
[17:35] <home> sorry laptop...hahaha
[17:35] <blah1> ubottu, ok
[17:35] <blah1> guntbert, ok thx
[17:35] <dlentz> !botsnack
[17:35] <gundy> blah1, yes?
[17:36] <guntbert> gundy: he mis-tabbed - meaning me :)
[17:36] <roelforg> magicj, that correct
[17:36] <xichael> roelforg, i just tried on two other systems with the same result
[17:36] <roelforg> home, still:  can i?
[17:36] <home> ok
[17:36] <gundy> guntbert, heh.
[17:36] <roelforg> xichael, your usb is broken
[17:36] <roelforg> use the guide on the ubuntu wiki
[17:37] <bazhang> roelforg, which guide is that
[17:37] <home> gconf-service_3.2.5.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[17:37] <xichael> i just used it lats night to install Win7 on another machine, so I know it's not broken
[17:37] <xichael> i did use the guide on the download page
[17:38] <home> other, gconf-service-backend_3.2.5
[17:38] <xichael> it's said to use the Universal USB Installer
[17:38] <xichael> I've reinstalled it to the drive now 3 times
[17:38] <home> other, libgconf-2.4_3.2.5
[17:39] <home> and there are others
[17:39] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut in the terminal, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:39] <home> what do you think...?
[17:39] <magicJ> roelforg: what do you mean "that correct"
[17:39] <roelforg> xichael, i meant your install setup on the usb... Installation/InstallationFromUSNStick
[17:39] <home> i've already download them
[17:40] <roelforg> magicj, it's supposed to do so.
[17:40] <bazhang> roelforg, please be helpful when helping. just saying "thats correct, or look on the wiki is not helpful
[17:40] <bazhang> roelforg, if you dont know then please dont answer
[17:41] <xichael> i'll give that a shot
[17:41] <roelforg> xichael, wiki.ubuntu.com/community/installation/FromUSBStick
[17:41] <roelforg> woops, Installation (typo
[17:41] <sentriz> How to I edit the settigs for the side bar? :)
[17:41] <home> roelforg, did you see them?
[17:42] <ansi> can someone please help me with aptana studio.. i am new to it and i am new to ubuntu also .. please .. it will be a big favour
[17:42] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: helping doesnt mean to give you point to point directions, telling you to look into the wiki means your queries are answerwed in the wiki, all you need is some reading skills :)
[17:42] <roelforg> home, see what?
[17:42] <home> the libreries
[17:42] <xichael> roelforg, would this process work with lubuntu?
[17:42] <bazhang> MrHanjrah, thats not right. we have specific factoids for the wiki.
[17:42] <sentriz> can someone PLEASE help me
[17:42] <sentriz> im sure its easy
[17:43] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: i agree, but why would someone point you to the wiki if something you want is not there
[17:43] <ansi> i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:43] <bazhang> MrHanjrah, this is not the arch channel or the like. we *do* point to point support.
[17:43] <home> roelforg, did you ?
[17:44] <home> and so...
[17:44] <roelforg> home, yeah... apt-cache search libgconf showed them just fine on my systems
[17:44] <derek925> guys and someone please help me with an issue with the gnome 2.2 menu
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <bazhang> derek925, which version of ubuntu
[17:44] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: aha...!
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <bazhang> ansi, no need to repeat
[17:45] <derek925> I create a menu and put it in the wrong place so i removed it rebooted clecan cache etc etc and no mater where i put it it comes back in the same place where i didnt want it
[17:45] <ansi> bazhang pleas help me
[17:45] <bazhang> derek925, which version of ubuntu
[17:45] <derek925> maverick
[17:45] <derek925> gnome 2.2
[17:45] <home> and so...
[17:45] <magicJ> roelforg: if that's what it is supposed to do then how can I recover - surely if I am REALLY on as the root I should be able for example to change passwords - on other ubuntu systems I can
[17:46] <ansi> bazhang pleas help me
[17:46] <oCean> ansi: please stop
[17:46] <oCean> !helpme | ansi
[17:46] <sacarlson> ansi: here 1.4 million results http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=aptana&gbv=2&oq=aptana&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=hp.3..0l10.2741l2741l0l3887l1l1l0l0l0l0l165l165l0j1l1l0.frgbld.
[17:46] <oCean> sacarlson: not helpful :(
[17:47] <sacarlson> oCean: training how to use google is bad?
[17:47] <ansi> my apologies but i am trying to seek help past 3 days but no one has responded
[17:47] <bazhang> sacarlson, please dont do that
[17:47] <home> roelforg, what else.
[17:47] <bazhang> ansi, you need to ask an actual question, all on ONE line
[17:48] <ansi> i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:48] <bazhang> ansi, aptana studio?
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang yer
[17:48] <roelforg> home, they are in the repo (i wanted to prove that). Did you run sudo apt-get update
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang yes
[17:48] <bazhang> ansi, how does that relate to lamp?
[17:48] <home> of course
[17:49] <derek925> bazhang i see your busy if you can help when you get a chance on the menu item reaccouring
[17:49] <derek925> Id be very greatful
[17:49] <zenmaster> Hi, I was curious if someone could point me into the right direction on how to install and configure Vmware on Ubuntu Server 11.10?
[17:49] <bazhang> derek925, maverick is already end of life
[17:49] <auronandace> !vmware | zenmaster
[17:49] <Dragonforce> hi everibody
[17:49] <roelforg> home, apt-cache policy libgconf
[17:49] <ansi> bazhang i installed aptana.. then apache ..now as per aptana i am suppose to set the path of preview to apache folder.. but still i dont get a preview
[17:50] <home> when i used sudo aptitude
[17:50] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | derek925
[17:50] <derek925> look on you tube there millions of videos on vmware server etc
[17:50] <DasEi> zenmaster: I could help you a little in pm, but I went to vbox
[17:50] <Dragonforce> everybody*
[17:50] <zenmaster> Thank you auronandace.
[17:50] <zenmaster> I just need to throw a copy of windows on this machine I can VNC to so that I can use the power of this machine to do certain tasks. :)
[17:51] <Dragonforce> can someone help me ? every time i start my pc, ubuntu doesn't recognize all my hardware, i need to restart to fix that, so, there's a command line that i can use to force ubuntu to reset or search hardware again ?
[17:51] <zenmaster> I don't care really what helps me accomplish this goal as long as I can get it done. :)
[17:51] <zenmaster> DasEi: So does this sound framiliar to you?
[17:51] <bazhang> Dragonforce, which hardware
[17:51] <roelforg> home, ... I dunno your ubuntu version  but mine (11.10) goes back to 3.2.0
[17:51] <Dragonforce> bazhang, soundcard and wireless
[17:51] <derek925> so you cant help its not a security issue its driving me mad I want to know why it keeps coming back where can i delet the menu item Ive delete the file in /usr/share/aps etc etc
[17:51] <DasEi> zenmaster: no problem  , though wrong channel, feel free to pm
[17:52] <home> roelforg, no se pudo lov}calizar el paquete libgconf
[17:52] <Dragonforce> bazhang, but after restart, its ok
[17:52] <zenmaster> Sure thank you. :)
[17:52] <ansi> bazhang i installed aptana.. then apache ..now as per aptana i am suppose to set the path of preview to apache folder.. but still i dont get a preview
[17:52] <bazhang> Dragonforce, which card for wireless, ie chipset
[17:52] <home> sorry localizar
[17:52] <bazhang> ansi, yes, patience
[17:53] <dlentz> Dragonforce, have you tried the following command hwen that happens: sudo alsa force-reload
[17:53] <Dragonforce> bazhang, its an atheros, wireless card of notebook, chipset is intel but i dont know exactly
[17:53] <Dragonforce> no no dlentz , is this what im looking for, a command to re-search hardware
[17:53] <bazhang> Dragonforce, it would be either atheros or intel, not intel, unless you have two
[17:53] <dlentz> well, that one reloads sound driver/module
[17:53] <Dragonforce> dlentz, but alsa can be used for all hardware ?
[17:53] <bazhang> ansi, whats the guide you are following?
[17:54] <Dragonforce> bazhang,  sorry, wireles is atheros, but the notebook is a based intel chipset
[17:54] <home> i try to translate the message. it  couldn't search the paq libgconf
[17:54] <home> roelforg,
[17:54] <xichael> roelforg, just tried Linux Live Usb Creator and it had the same problem. i'll try Unetbootin now
[17:54] <Rienzilla> mmh
[17:54] <dlentz> Dragonforce, i would als try comparing dmesg output from a boot where everything works and one where hardware fails to work
[17:55] <zenmaster> Shoot I hope IRSSI did not just auto ignore daesi. :D
[17:55] <ansi> bazhang i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:55] <bazhang> zenmaster, its DasEi
[17:55] <bazhang> ansi, you are not answering my questions
[17:55] <ansi> bazhang http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-11.10-lamp-p2
[17:55] <bazhang> ansi, stop repeating that same line
[17:56] <Slype> Is it possible to compare Aptana to MonoDevelop?
[17:56] <roelforg> home, the livecd should enable you to use the linux tools on a different pc to create the usb
[17:56] <bazhang> Slype, more like dreamweaver
[17:56] <b2kru> I like cheese and tomato to be honest
[17:56] <ceti331> just been messing with 'synergy', what an awesome program
[17:57] <home> roelforg, so should i try to repair the o.p
[17:57] <bazhang> ansi, that link and aptana; whats the connection?
[17:57] <home> with the livecd
[17:57] <Slype> Thank you, bazhang
[17:57] <roelforg> home, no i mean another pc with a cddrive can boot the livecd and you can use it to create the usb
[17:58] <b2kru> the file is located on the server, its a Truecrypt locked file
[17:58] <home> how
[17:58] <b2kru> whoops
[17:58] <home> now im using a desk top pc
[17:58] <home> and the bug is in my laptop
[17:59] <home> how can i do that please
[17:59] <oCean> home what are you actually trying to accomplish? the libgconf package is called "libgconf2-4"
[17:59] <Dragonforce> dlentz, so, doen't exist a command that restart hardware detection in ubuntu ?
[17:59] <sacarlson> roelforg: we do have a linux tool that installs a ubuntu iso file to a usb flash without ever being on a cd
[18:00] <roelforg> sacarlson, home said that it didn't work.
[18:00] <bazhang> sacarlson, dd?
[18:00] <home> ocean, my problem is...
[18:00] <roelforg> bazhang, dd=gnu
[18:00] <bazhang> roelforg, what?
[18:00] <oCean> ?
[18:01] <roelforg> bazhang, dd is a linux tool
[18:01] <bazhang> roelforg, and?
[18:01] <sacarlson> roelforg: it doesn't work on all iso files to make them bottable but many usb-creator-gtk
[18:01] <Rienzilla> anyone here able to assist me on setting up a custom resolution with ubuntu and fglrx driver?
[18:01] <home> i run a sudo aptitude, it shows there are some broken packages
[18:01] <Rienzilla> my desired resolution is nog in the ati catalyst control panel
[18:02] <Rienzilla> not*
[18:02] <home> i could not fix it cause the are somo of them not abaliables
[18:02] <sandking> hi
[18:02] <anon> Does anybody know a file sharing tool for only 2 parties? One could use ssh servers on both sides but is there something more comfortable?
[18:02] <auronandace> home: sudo apt-get install -f
 it does not work
[18:02] <sandking> anyone knows what might be the reason that when installing an app i get missint python >=2.7 while i got 3.1 installed anyway?
[18:02] <sandking> i got both 2.6 and 3.1
[18:03] <skel> does anyone know why ironpython wasn't carried forward from natty?
[18:03] <sacarlson> anon: maybe ssh using nautilus then it's drag and drop like you might be used to
[18:03] <skel> or was it and I'm just missing it?
[18:03] <skel> !ironpython
[18:03] <xichael> ok, i've now tried Linux Live Usb Creator, Unetbootin, and Universal USB Installer. they all produce a boot drive with the same "missing operating system". i've tried them on three different systems. what more can I do?
[18:03] <skel> xichael: use dd
[18:04] <xichael> what's that?
[18:04] <anon> sacarlson, how I use nautilus with SSH?
[18:04] <skel> xichael: on your system, plugin the stick, from a terminal do sudo dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/<usb device name here> bs=1M
[18:04] <xichael> i'm on a windows machine
[18:05] <skel> xichael: ah ok =/ do you have an osx machine near? you can use dd on that too
[18:05] <Escherial> so, i've pinned an application to the unity launcher, but it's icon is just "?"
[18:05] <xichael> no...
[18:05] <Pici> skel: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ironpython/+bug/549320 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dlr-languages/+publishinghistory
[18:05] <Escherial> how do i go about assigning it an icon? i have a png ready and er'thing
[18:05] <roelforg> xichael, livecd --- download, burn and boot using a desktop
[18:05] <skel> Pici: ty!
[18:05] <sacarlson> xichael: usb-creator works well on casper type iso files but not on all iso like ubuntu alternate iso,  maybe try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ for more details
[18:06] <PedroGomes> Hi, when installing a second Ubuntu in a free partition and forcing grub update to go to  (hd0,msdos1) (that I suppose is equal to sda1 my /boot partition) in the result all grub entries go to the new system. I can't figure this out...
[18:06] <skel> xichael: I'm not sure why those other tools aren't working for you, maybe try the fedora usb creator? I've used that to make ubuntu bootable usb devices
[18:06] <xichael> i'm trying to install to a netbook. it has no optical drive
[18:06] <Escherial> to provide some respite from the dunning-kruger effect, i'm trying to "install" pycharm (which apparently means dumping it in some directory and running pycharm.sh when you want to use it)...attempted to pin it to the launcher while it was running, and now i have the question-mark icon woes
[18:06] <roelforg> xichael, use a desktop to boot the livecd, have the livecd dd the iso to the usb, stick the usb in the netboot
[18:06] <xichael> sacarlson, i tried pendrivelinux's tool
[18:06] <roelforg> edit: i meant netbook
 home, no i mean another pc with a cddrive can boot the livecd and you can use it to create the usb. how can i do it, what is adress
[18:07] <bozonius> even running 2D, and throttling the cpu to 60%, ubuntu VM in vbox is crashing other guests
[18:07] <roelforg> home, the normal ubuntu-install-cd is a livecd
[18:07] <sacarlson> xichael: the method I normaly use if I still have a bootable linux disk is just create a grub2 menu to boot iso files in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[18:07] <home> i know it
[18:07] <bozonius> even running fluxbox, not even having unity running, crashes other VM's
[18:08] <Pici> sandking: Code for python3 is not compatible with code for python2.
[18:08] <home> but what do you mean, i can follow you
[18:08] <sandking> Pici, oh, i thought that when it asks for >=2.7 it means that 3.1 should be ok. thanks for the info
[18:08] <home> step by step
[18:09] <bozonius> I want to use Ubuntu One, but its damn operating system VM is causing the rest of my system to walk with a bad limp
[18:09] <roelforg> home, can you boot it on your own?
[18:09] <xichael> ok... do you guy have some links to instructions for these methods
[18:09] <ansi> bazhang http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html5/tutorials/aptana-studio-3-guided-tour-and-tutorial-create-a-web-project-using-the-html-5-boilerplate-framework.html#fbid=08uljAMcfes
[18:09] <home> of course
[18:09] <home> and then
[18:09] <xichael> i'm linux illiterate as of yet
[18:09] <roelforg> home, determine what /dev/sd* is your usb.
[18:09] <guntbert> !ubuntuone | bozonius
[18:09] <xichael> the dd, and the grub2 stuff that is
[18:09] <home> and
[18:10] <roelforg> home, i'll assume /dev/sdd for the ease
[18:10] <bozonius> Yes I know that.  That's why I want to use it.
[18:10] <roelforg> home, sudo dd if=/path/to.iso of=/dev/sdd
[18:10] <sacarlson> xichael: you might find better than this if you look http://icyrock.com/blog/tag/grub2/
[18:10] <roelforg> home, replace /dev/sdd with the right one
[18:10] <bozonius> From what I've seen, I like it.  Trouble is, Ubuntu is crashing my other guests and worse, slowing down my entire host
[18:10] <guntbert> bozonius: sorry, the important part is in the last line :)
[18:10] <skel> xichael: have you tried https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ ?
[18:10] <anon> log anon
[18:10] <bozonius> oh, ok
[18:11] <bozonius> thanks
[18:11] <sylos> hello all. This is my first time on IRC so not really sure how this works. Im trying to tack down an error and whether it is kernel based or something else. Am I in the right place?
[18:11] <xichael> skel, i'll give that a try first
[18:11] <guntbert> sylos: this is the ubuntu support channel - so if you are on ubuntu - yes
[18:11] <home> not man i cannot, there is an other way a easier way to do that?
[18:12] <roelforg> home, netbooks are just harder to install...
[18:12] <ansi> bazhang http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html5/tutorials/aptana-studio-3-guided-tour-and-tutorial-create-a-web-project-using-the-html-5-boilerplate-framework.html#fbid=08uljAMcfes
[18:13] <ansi> bazhang are u there?? can anyone please help  me.. its so frustrating to moveon to ubuntu..
[18:13] <sylos> guntbert: thanks here it is:   [ 7838.014939] ICE1712 0000:06:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) ->
[18:13] <sylos> IRQ 19
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014967] ice1712: Using board model M Audio Delta 66
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014971] invalid EEPROM (size = 145)
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014987] ICE1712 0000:06:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014996] ICE1712: probe of 0000:06:00.0 failed with error -5
[18:13] <FloodBot1> sylos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <home> so what shoul i do instead
[18:13] <bazhang> ansi, with xampp? that looks like a windows help page
[18:13] <roelforg> home, what i said: use the livecd dd the iso to the usb
[18:13] <oragsy> Hello! I'm not able to get micro SD adapter work on Ubuntu 11.10 running on Dell XPS 15. I tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15 but still not working.. Can anyone please heple me fid it
[18:13] <home> roelforg, do you have a skype account?
[18:14] <roelforg> home, nope
[18:14] <roelforg> home, i do have a ubuntuforums one
[18:14] <jbwiv> guys, I run a software raid mirror, with lvm on top of that, and with ext4 on top of that. since installing 11.10 (and now with 12.04) the "[jbd2/dm-1-8]" process constantly spins disks and eats i/o. Any idea how to stop this?
[18:14] <oragsy> Can anyone please help me fix it*
[18:14] <home> msn or something
[18:14] <sylos> ahh, sorry. The error comes when using an Maudio sound card BUT only when my PCIe graphics card is also installed. The maudio is old PCI
[18:14] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:14] <guntbert> sylos: I'm not good with kernel messages - I suggest you tell the channel a little about the problem and send a somewhat longer output to a !pastebin
[18:14] <roelforg> home, nope (i don't like those)
[18:14] <bazhang> roelforg, where is the iso on the livecd
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> jbwiv  #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[18:14] <home> facebook
[18:15] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:15] <jbwiv> MonkeyDust, yep, but it happens on my other box, which is 11.10
[18:15] <roelforg> bazhang, it ain't. You can either download it inside the livecd or just use /dev/sr0 (first cd-drive) as source
[18:15] <sylos> to avoid flooding I should do it all in one post, yes?
[18:15] <bazhang> ansi, is that using xampp?
[18:16] <bazhang> roelforg, does that not seem very complex to a first time user?
[18:16] <guntbert> sylos: use a !pastebin please, and for the statement - one line is perfect :)
[18:16] <guntbert> !pastebin | sylos
[18:16] <echa> hi, i would like to set up an ipv4 route for a connection in NetworkManager. I want to use my ethernet connection only for a certain route. I check the "ignore automatically obtained routes" and add a route for my host - however the gateway i need changes depending on when i connect to the network. Is there any way to place a dynamic net gateway parameter for this route?
[18:16] <roelforg> bazhang, it might... but on the irc, everything seems so as other messages are injected between the instructions
[18:17] <roelforg> bazhang, as a whole, it's not to hard
[18:17] <home> roelforg, hey please help me, give me a hand with this
[18:17] <oCean> home, listen. Your only, actual issue is that your aptitutde gives you an error?
[18:17] <bazhang> roelforg, I'd suggest it is quite too hard for said user, without very clear explanation
[18:18] <roelforg> home, i gave the instuctions for usb install ( i might be confusing conversations now... )
[18:18] <home> not it says that there are some broken packages
[18:18] <oCean> home, roelforg if that is your only issue, how come you are looking for a way to create livecd? To do what exactly?
[18:18] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:18] <oCean> home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How_to_fix_broken_packages
[18:18] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:18] <FloodBot1> ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <roelforg> bazhang, try stitching them together and look
[18:19] <roelforg> bazhang, my messages i mean (i type to fast
[18:19] <bazhang> roelforg, you are the one that suggested he do this?
[18:19] <roelforg> bazhang, i think i confused home and xichael...
[18:19] <bazhang> roelforg, all just to fix some broken packages?
[18:19] <xichael_> liveusb-creator has failed as well
[18:19] <home> yes you did hahah
[18:20] <oCean> roelforg: do you mind a pm?
[18:20] <roelforg> oCean, no i don't, as long as it is just a link to a new or updated thread
[18:21] <xichael_> is there some way i need to be formatting the drive? a few of the utilities offer to do it for me (to FAT32), but it didn't make any difference
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: try unetbootin
[18:21] <Chaosadnd1> Anyone have experience mounting a windows filesystem with webmin?
[18:21] <sylos> ok : here is the pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/932913/   (hope I did that right)
[18:21] <auronandace> !webmin | Chaosadnd1
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: webmin isn't supported or to be used
[18:21] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:22] <bazhang> ansi, aptana studio?
[18:22] <Chaosadnd1> Hmm, why is it no longer supported?
[18:22] <ansi> bazhang yes
[18:22] <bazhang> ansi, wait a moment
[18:22] <skel> xichael_: yeah I usually just let the tool format the usb drive and haven't had any issues =/ is there a read / write switch on the drive?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: it doesn't gel with the config files and will break your OS
[18:22] <oCean> roelforg: pm, private message I mean. it must have opened a new tab in your irc client
[18:22] <rattatoue> I am using 10.04 LTS. I was wandering if someone could help me with getting my Netgear N150 working with it.
[18:22] <fixxxermet> Hi.  If I would like to voulnteer to maintain a package (such as the user-space scripts for the lxc package), who would I contact?
, i had tried with the synaptic, but it cannot
[18:23] <Chaosadnd1> Didnt know that. Have been running on my 11.10 server for qutie some time. Never noticed anything bad with it
[18:23] <oCean> !contribute | fixxxermet
[18:23] <Pici> fixxxermet: #ubuntu-motu would be a good place to drop by.
[18:23] <Chaosadnd1> quite*
[18:23] <fixxxermet> Thanks*2
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: can you give a pastebin of:   sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb       Thanks
[18:24] <xichael_> no read/write switch. i've been using this drive for months to install windows 7.
[18:24] <skiy1337> xichael_: What error message to you get during mkfs.*?
[18:24] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've tried Unetbootin,  Linux Live Usb Creator, and Universal USB Installer as well
[18:25] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/n8nZuh80
[18:25] <sacarlson> xichael_: I looked back about 2 hours in your chat records and can't find what version or what iso file you are working to install with usb flash
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: safe remove the device, jam it in a windows PC and format it FAT32
[18:25] <Chaosadnd1> So is there just no alternative to webmin now for Ubuntu/Debian?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: you have a class C IP? The wifi appears to be working.
[18:25] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal Chaosadnd1
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | Chaosadnd1
[18:26] <Chaosadnd1> Thank you
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: I suggest you just use SSH, it will teach you about your OS and your skills will be transferrable
[18:26] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, I am currently on Wifi with a WG111 Netgear. Thats where the class C IP is from. I want to use the Netgear N150 not this WG111v3 one.
[18:26] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've formatted to FAT32 a number of times, to no avail
[18:27] <Chaosadnd1> I already use SSH, I also use webmin for ease of use.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: when you unplug from windows, do you safely remove the device?
[18:27] <Chaosadnd1> If it wasnt for webmin, i likely wouldnt be using Ubuntu at all. it helped me  learn alot.
[18:28] <skel> xichael_: you're using a standard thumbdrive right? Not a usb partition on a mobile phone or anything like that?
[18:28] <sacarlson> xichael_: might try lubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso  or ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso  they are stable and are casper type that many have used as bootable usb flash installs
[18:28] <xichael_> sacarlson, i was just here under xichael .. it disconnected me and logged me back in with this. I am attempting ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso and lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso . neither has worked with any of the utilities i've tried.
[18:28] <DasEi> Chaosadnd1: webmin is quite insecure
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663232    seems to use ndiswrapper
[18:28] <Chaosadnd1> Oh I understand that now, was just answering what was directed at me.
[18:28] <xichael_> skel, yes, standard thumb drive
[18:29] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've been safely removing each time
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: good, that's important
[18:29] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'll try 10.04
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: if all alse fails, grab a magnet and put it on one side, then the other. Then format is and try again.
[18:29] <skel> xichael_: it could also be a corrupt iso =/ those are tough things to determine without already running linux
[18:30] <dav> hello, im trying to build a project and I get this error, I guess I am missing a library. here is the error output: http://pastebin.com/JH5UVDgk
[18:30] <xichael_> i've downloaded both via bittorrent
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/167111
[18:30] <manitou> hi im new to ubuntu project , not totaly noob vith linux ! one Q:update from Beta2 to final LTS is it possible ?
[18:30] <sacarlson> xichael_: those i see you have should have worked too but missed why they failed maybe black screen?
[18:30] <skel> xichael_: did the md5sums match up?
[18:30] <bazhang> !final | manitou
[18:30] <root> hi all
[18:31] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'm getting "Missing Operating System" at boot up
[18:31] <manitou> ubottu: thx that is nice !
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !rooirc | Guest21576
[18:31] <sacarlson> xichael_: sounds like bios picks the wrong sequence of device to boot first
[18:32] <xichael_> skel, i believe a couple of the utilities had checked that with no issues
[18:32] <skel> xichael_: dumb question but did you already modify the bios to be ahead of the in system disk for boot order?
[18:32] <xichael_> yes
[18:32] <skel> k
[18:32] <Guest21576> i need some help
[18:32] <Guest21576> is any one can help me
[18:33] <xichael_> both using the boot menu (F12 on the Dell) and editing the BIOS
[18:33] <sacarlson> xichael_: my notebook is like that every time I reboot I have to change the bios to get it to boot the usb,  eeepc for me
[18:33] <sauce_boss> eee pcs are terrible
[18:34] <xichael_> this one's pretty consistent. the BIOS settings are saved fine,
[18:34] <sacarlson> sauce_boss: I love it
[18:34] <sauce_boss> its good for travel
[18:34] <sauce_boss> i knew a guy who managed to put minecraft on it
[18:34] <xichael_> it just won't recognize the contents as bootable
[18:34] <bazhang> !ot | sauce_boss
[18:35] <sacarlson> xichael_:  if the usb software program did verification then it must be bios I think
[18:36] <sacarlson> xichael_: I have also got some counterfit usb's here in thailand that have caused me problems
[18:37] <xichael_> i have tried this on 2 other machines and had the same problem... the USB is fine, as I use it to install Windows 7 all the time
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: try the mini install. May help. Use a wired connection and you can install using the repos
[18:37] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i'm on Windows 7
[18:37] <sacarlson> xichael_: try at least start install win 7 on your notebook to verify that the bios is set good
[18:38] <sauce_boss> probably its ur live usb creator program thats dodgy, i use unetbootin, works the best
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: so? You can put the mini ISO on the USB with Win7. What does the version of windows have to do with anything?
[18:40] <sacarlson> xichael_: I'm sure you did an md5sum of the iso you put on the usb flash drive to verify it's not corrupted
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: you could even be using a Mac and the process using unetbootin is the same.....
[18:40] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, ok, i thought you were referring to something i had to do from linux
[18:40] <scrub> Hey can someone help me, for some reason my Ubuntu software center wont let me press the download buttton, it is just greyed out
[18:40] <skiy1337> scrub, I can help you install from command line.
[18:40] <scrub> alrighty
[18:40] <skiy1337> So, which program do you want?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: no, not at all. Its just a small installation that installs from the web rather than using the CD as the source of packages
[18:41] <sacarlson> scrub  maybe it want you to be sudo?
[18:41] <pilotbub> xichael: boot up win 7 and vbox ubuntu until you get your fill
[18:41] <xichael_> sacarlson, how is this done?
[18:41] <scrub> I am sudo
[18:41] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, do you have a link for some instructions?
[18:41] <scrub> skiy1337, kismet-2011.03.2a.i386 is what I downloaded
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> !mini
[18:42] <scrub> which then opened in the software center
[18:42] <skiy1337> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: ^
[18:42] <sacarlson> xichael_: md5sum?  from windows 7?  http://www.winmd5.com/  or others
[18:42] <scrub> ugh, im such a windows baby.
[18:43] <sacarlson> scrub: we all were or still are babies
[18:43] <skiy1337> Well anyway, after that type: sudo apt-get -f install
 sudo dpkg -i *.deb   was that the command for me?
[18:43] <skiy1337> scrub, yes both of them
[18:43] <scrub> alright
[18:45] <skiy1337> Make sure that's the only .deb file in Downloads/
[18:45] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: funny I couldn't get ubuntu alternate cd to work as a usb or grub2,  but I guess they have mini.iso working?
[18:45] <xichael_> sacarlson, they matched
[18:45] <scrub> skiy1337, when typing in the first command I got there is no such directoy as *.deb
[18:45] <xichael_> how would the MinimalCD help me in this case?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: i believe it does :)
[18:45] <skiy1337> cd; cd Downloads/; sudo dpkg # etc.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: its a different ISO to try
[18:45] <sacarlson> xichael_: ok one posibility down,   so how to check if bios is set correct?
[18:46] <jola> ssta, are you there?
[18:46] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: xichael_: ya and only 24 meg to down load to try
[18:46] <ssta> nope
[18:47] <xichael_> well, i'm sure the BIOS is set up correctly. on all 3 machines I've tried this on, i've previouly installed Windows 7 via USB without issue
[18:47] <jola> ssta, if windows recovery cd doesn't work, can I undo its changes by dd'ing the file back to the partition?
[18:48] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'll give it a try
[18:48] <jola> or should I try to repair it with testdisk first?
[18:49] <jola> apparently the disk doesn't have bad sectors, I used dd_rescue and it showed 0 errors
[18:49] <ssta> jola: try repairing first, but you can undo the changes...this is why you took the copy in the first place
[18:49] <sacarlson> xichael_: I hope you pick the verify option on your usb or maybe do the full diagnostics on the device,  they don't all work
[18:50] <jbwiv> guys, I suspect (based on reading bug reports) that pm-utils is causing some unwanted disk writes. I proceeded to uninstall it with apt, but apt wants to uninstall gnome-session as well? Anyone know why/how to get around?
[18:50] <jola> ssta, I wasn't sure I could just copy it back. if not, I'd have to find a tool that can recover individual files from the partition image, but I'd have to reinstall everything, which is what I want to avoid
[18:51] <ssta> jola: yeah, good luck with it.
[18:51] <ssta> jola: and learn the lesson...backups! :)
[18:51] <jola> ssta, so should I do "chkdsk c: /f" or choose "repair an existing windows installation" from the menu?
[18:51] <jola> or both? in which order?
[18:51] <ssta> jola: I'd try the repair first, but that's just me
[18:51] <xichael_> sacarlson, i just used this USB thumbdrive last night to install windows on another machine, but i'll look into running a diagnostic. i think sandisk has a utility...
[18:52] <jola> ok
[18:52] <DemonID> Hi All..
[18:52] <DemonID> Witaam !
[18:52] <jola> ssta, if that fails, do you know of a free tool that repairs NTFS signatures?
[18:52] <zeusdark> ciao
[18:53] <zeusdark> !list
[18:53] <zeusdark> !list
[18:53] <zeusdark> o
[18:53] <Lil> lmao
[18:54] <ssta> jola: offhand, no
[18:54] <xichael_> the miniCD just gave me the same "missing operating system" as the others. maybe i'll try another distro to rule out ubuntu as the problem
[18:54] <jola> ok, I'll try the windows recovery cd now
[18:54] <xichael_> what should I try, Debian?
[18:55] <xichael_> Fedora. I'll try that.
[18:56] <shade34321> a user is trying to ssh to another computer but is receiving a host key verification failed error...we've deleted his known_hosts files already but still getting it...any ideas?
[18:57] <jola> ssta, if it doesn't work, should I do fixboot or fixmbr?
[18:57] <ssta> jola: you have a backup, do whichever seems appropriate
[18:57] <jola> I don't know what seems appropriate
[18:58] <jola> recopying the backup for each try would take days
[18:58] <jola> the backup took a day to copy
[18:58] <susanne> hi. can someone plz. help me... I cant watch any videos on firefox. Tried to download java but it doesnt seem to work...
[18:59] <xichael_> i better go catch some sunshine. i'll get back to this later. thanks for everyone's help!
[18:59] <auronandace> susanne: what uses java to play vids?
[18:59] <skel> susanne: chances are you don't need java for streaming video
[18:59] <Fyodorovna> susanne, did you install the restricted extras?
[18:59] <ssta> jola: welcome to disk recovery
[18:59] <skel> susanne: do you have the adobe flash plugin installed?
[19:00] <susanne> i checked the plugins flash plugin is installed
[19:00] <ssta> jola: there's a reason a decent specialist will charke like $1000 to even look at something
[19:00] <yeats> susanne: do you get an error when a video doesn't play?
[19:00] <jola> ssta, yes, but just because someone charges $1000 that doesn't make him a specialist
[19:01] <susanne> it only sais check plugins
[19:01] <jola> maybe he just looks at it, even though he is a specialist
[19:01] <yeats> susanne: how did you install flash?
[19:01] <susanne> Ubuntu software center
[19:01] <yeats> ok
[19:01] <ssta> jola: sure.  No data recovery specialist will promise to get your data back.  It's hit and miss.  It's a LOT easier to restore from backup than recover data on a fried filesystem
[19:02] <yeats> susanne: try typing 'about:plugins' into Firefox's address bar... does flash show up there?
[19:02] <skel> jola: if you need to recover files off a lost filesystem, photorec works pretty well (sorry I missed the first part of the discussion)
[19:02] <susanne> i try
[19:02] <Fyodorovna> susanne, generally all you have to install is the ubuntu-restricted-extras  it has plugins ms font and flash all in one.
[19:03] <susanne> x shockwave flash
[19:03] <yeats> susanne: have you restarted FF since installing flash?
[19:03] <susanne> yep
[19:03] <yeats> susanne: okay - I'm tapped out then ;-)
[19:03] <jola> skel, I want to avoid having to reinstall everything. do you know how I can repair the NTFS signature?
[19:04] <susanne> will i find the restricted-extres in the software center
[19:04] <Fyodorovna> susanne, yes, please use nics in the chanel as wel.
[19:04] <Fyodorovna> well*
[19:05] <susanne> ok fyodorovna
[19:05] <Fyodorovna> susanne, cool ;)
[19:05] <skel> jola: sorry I missed the first part of the discussion (small scrollback buffer) what happened?
[19:08] <teligard> Hi all
[19:08] <jola> skel, after a BSOD some days ago (DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, NDIS.sys) I couldn't boot windows anymore, nor mount the partition under linux. mount said the NTFS signature was missing. I copied the partition as an image to my external drive
[19:08] <jola> and now want to repair the NTFS signature
[19:09] <teligard> Anyone have any ideas why when I boot, I have all of my shares (fstab appears to work), but if I perform a umount -a -t cifs and then a mount -a, the system returns an error saying that the fstab is incorrect?
[19:10] <ssta> jola: did the XP recovery tool fail?
[19:11] <skel> jola: yeah if you boot off your windows install cd there should be an active parition recovery option
[19:12] <Fyodorovna> jola, have you tried the ##windows channel, for fixing a broken partition table.
[19:13] <jola> Fyodorovna, no, I only had the info that the NTFS signature was missing
[19:13] <jola> I don't know what else was overwritten by that driver
[19:13] <DasEi> teligard: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[19:14] <Fyodorovna> jola, not really sure here but when I look that up it appears top be a broken partition table, may not really be fixable efficiently really.
[19:14] <skel> jola: if you've cloned the disk image already and have it backed up, you could try: http://www.howtoforge.com/ntfs-disk-recovery
[19:17] <DasEi> teligard: url ?
[19:19] <Swinden> join #familab
[19:19] <Down_to_Earth> Hey
[19:24] <n233g16> I installed ubuntu alone on my PC
[19:24] <n233g16> I think I've selected it to encrypt my files in /home
[19:24] <yzhd> Guys, I'm trying to repo init, but I
[19:24] <n233g16> now when I want to edit a text file, it says I'm not the owner
[19:25] <n233g16> should I sudo change the file's permissions?
[19:25] <yzhd> i'm getting this error: ~/android/system$ repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b gingerbread
[19:25] <yzhd> No command 'repo' found, did you mean:
[19:25] <yzhd> . I think I have to path /bin?
[19:25] <acicula> n233g16: which text file
[19:25] <n233g16> or is there another way to deal with this?
[19:25] <n233g16> I've made a simple text file in my documents folder acicula
[19:25] <craigbass1976> My number pad isn't working so well.  When numlock is off, home, end, etc are all workign properly.  When I hit shift Home (to select everything from where I am back to the beginning of the line) I get 7.  10.04 is the last time I didn't see this happening.
[19:25] <n233g16> using sudo gedit
[19:25] <DasEi> n233g16: has nothing to do with each other solution is..
[19:26] <acicula> n233g16: you should never use sudo in combination with a grafical program
[19:26] <n233g16> got it acicula
[19:26] <DasEi> and use gksu for graphical sudo , n233g16
[19:26] <n233g16> acicula: I've used because it would let me store in ~/Documents
[19:26] <acicula> n233g16: if you saved a file when using sudo  its owned by root and you need to change the ownership using chown
[19:26] <n233g16> Thanks DasEi
[19:27] <acicula> n233g16: you need to check the permissions of Documentd then, you should almost never need to use root priviledges like that directly
[19:27] <DasEi> n233g16: but back to your problem , you try to open a file from without running ubu on ecryptfs ? or a permission problem ?
[19:27] <n233g16> acicula: ok, I'll do it. But next time I want to write in my ~/Documents, I should be able to just use gedit as a regular user
[19:27] <jola> ssta, skel: testdisk said the bootsector was bad and I copied the backup boot sector over the boot sector, now I can mount the windows partition, I'll try to boot into windows now
[19:28] <n233g16> DasEi: I'm trying to open it just like I used to do before encryption
[19:28] <acicula> n233g16: by default you should be yeah, unless you changed something.
[19:28] <n233g16> DasEi: without using anything
[19:28] <jola> wish me luck
[19:28] <n233g16> acicula: I haven't. It's a "vanilla" install
[19:29] <DasEi> n233g16: sudo chown -R >YourUsernameHere< ~/myDocuments         that ones whole dir and subdir , but ask, if unsure
[19:29] <acicula> n233g16: thats odd, check that your user owns the Documents directory and that its rw for at least your user
[19:29] <n233g16> DasEi: Thank you!
[19:29] <DasEi> and again as said above, that's nothing about ecryptfs
[19:29] <n233g16> acicula: Thank you !
[19:29] <Abijar> Hello, I have a problem with Oneiric on a eMachines e525, GPU Intel GMA 900. Resolution is only 1024x (should be 1333) and cant be changed. Research on Internet say the i965-Driver should help - but it doesnt.
[19:29] <Abijar> Any suggestions? :/
[19:30] <DasEi> ones=owns , n233g16
[19:30] <n233g16> It was the whole directory permissions that weren't correct
[19:30] <acicula> n233g16: great :)
[19:31] <DasEi> n233g16: problem with that cmd in general, it also does it to all subdirs, so be carefull not to run root
[19:31] <acicula> Abijar: are you sure its loaded the intel driver and not the standard vesa driver? thats why you would see the 1024x768 resolution
[19:32] <yado> sera
[19:32] <Abijar> Hm, I installed it. How can i see if it loaded?
[19:32] <yado> !list
[19:32] <n233g16> DasEi: got it ;)
[19:32] <Ben64> yado: why !list
[19:33] <DasEi> !support | yado , ;)
[19:34] <sha0coder> hi ppl
[19:34] <acicula> Abijar: uhm id guess /var/log/Xfree.0.log or maybe the glxinfo can be of some help there
[19:35] <JonEdney> Hey, anyone here familiar with XChat and possibly making custom settings?  I'm trying to set alerts only for a specific network, not everywhere I'm connected to.  Any ideas?  XChat channel, no one has any clue.
[19:35] <yzhd> i'm getting this error: ~/android/system$ repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b gingerbread. I think I have to path /bin. Anyone knows how to do that?
[19:36] <acicula> yzhd /bin is always in your path, or your system would not even be working
[19:37] <osse> If I ssh to a machine and start a shell like so 'ssh -t hostname bash' I cannot type any of the characters æøå and probably many others. Why is that? Obviously starting bash that way is pointless; what I'm actually doing is starting tmux, but I guess this rules tmux out.
[19:37] <yzhd> acicula, why do I get that error?
[19:37] <acicula> yzhd: what error
[19:37] <Boohbah> osse: probably due to the locale settings of your remote host
[19:38] <yzhd> acicula, No command 'repo' found, did you mean:
[19:38] <yzhd>  Command 'rep' from package 'rep' (universe)
[19:38] <yzhd>  Command 'repl' from package 'nmh' (universe)
[19:38] <yzhd>  Command 'repl' from package 'mailutils-mh' (universe)
[19:38] <yzhd> repo: command not found
[19:38] <FloodBot1> yzhd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <osse> Boohbah, indeed.
[19:39] <acicula> osse: sshing from osx?
[19:39] <geek0091> hey need some help transfering files from the rescue shell on the ubuntu recovery cd
[19:39] <osse> acicula, no. From Ubuntu
[19:40] <yzhd> acicula, did you see what I sent? or was it removed because of flood?
[19:40] <geek0091> no ssh installed, nothing, trying to figure out how to transfer dir or files on hd
[19:40] <geek0091> dir of files*
[19:40] <acicula> yzhd: maybe its not packaged, instrucions on how to install it are here https://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
[19:41] <osse> Boohbah, when I log in regularly I get 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8' and all the others except LC_ALL. When I log in with -t LANG also is empty the the remaining ones are POSIX. Do you know how I fix this?
[19:41] <DasEi> geek0091: little confusing talk, you want to use live cd to get files from hd ?
[19:42] <Pici> yzhd: You forgot the first part of your command.   shouldn't it be: git init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b gingerbread
[19:42] <yzhd> Pici, have no idea :/ I'm following this guide : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Compile_CyanogenMod_(Linux)
[19:43] <sirriffsalot_> Hello! Does anyone know where I could find the JACK plugin for Opera? I can't find it in synaptic...
[19:45] <Abijar> acicula: Log says: "[   729.612] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so", glxinfo: OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer ...
[19:45] <Pici> yzhd: Ah, I see. Can you try doing:    source ~/.profile    and see if that fixes it?
[19:45] <yzhd> Pici, btw, I'm "Cd'ied" inside android/system
[19:46] <DasEi> geek0091: ?
[19:46] <Pici> yzhd: thats fine.
[19:46] <yzhd> Pici, it worked :D Terminal is doing something now
[19:46] <konbon> hello
[19:47] <roasted> Question - how do I log out of the GUI and return back to the login screen via terminal?
[19:47] <yzhd> Pici, before I start repo sync j-16, do you know how I can do this? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22307617&postcount=3
[19:47] <tarrenj> hey, I'm installing a package from source, but I'm getting a make error 2.  I remember that being an easy fix, but not what it is.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> roasted: killall -u $USER    works, if a bit heavy handed
[19:48] <yzhd> pici, it's just gedit I guess
[19:48] <Pici> yzhd: It sounds pretty self explanitory.  Yes.
[19:48] <roasted> ActionParsnip: is that the optimum way to quietly log out, though?
[19:48] <ctjctj> What is the name of the package that provides the network-manager interface that shows up in the menubar next to the sound control (applet?)
[19:48] <guntbert> roasted: what DE are you using?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> roasted: define optimum
[19:49] <roasted> ActionParsnip: pulling the plug on a computer is convenient to turn it off, but not optimum.
[19:49] <trism> tarrenj: hard to say without seeing the error, pastebin?
[19:49] <roasted> guntbert: gnome classic or unity. both I would like to find out.
[19:49] <tarrenj> sure, trism
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> roasted: that 'ideal' not optimum
[19:49] <ctjctj> Issue is that one of my users does not get the menu item "VPN Connections..." and my other user account does.  I'm trying to determine what is the difference between those two user accounts
[19:49] <xangua> !info gnome-network-manager | ctjctj
[19:50] <xangua> !info network-manager-gnome | ctjctj
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> roasted: there is the gnome-session command but the command I gave will work
[19:50] <guntbert> roasted: for gnome there is gnome-session-quit
[19:51] <ctjctj> xangua: I've searched that package for "VPN Connections"  It shows up in the po directories but not in any source file.  I'm sure this is luser error.
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> roasted: gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[19:51] <tarrenj> trism, http://pastebin.com/azJq0vra
[19:51] <roasted> ActionParsnip: snazzy. I'll try that out. Appreciate it.
[19:52] <ctjctj> xangua: disregard.  :-( luser error on reading the info you gave me.  Thank you.
[19:53] <yzhd> Pici, there was a command that showed the size of a folder. Which one was that? I CD'ed then ls something
[19:54] <Pici> yzhd: du -h or du -hs
[19:54] <yzhd> Pici, that's the command, thanks :D
[19:54] <trism> tarrenj: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[19:54] <Pici> yzhd: np
[19:54] <tarrenj> kernal headers?
[19:55] <trism> tarrenj: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r);
[19:55] <tarrenj> trism, kernal headers? I'm installing something else right now, but as soon as thats done I will thakn
[19:55] <yzhd> Pici, one last question :D A week or two ago.. I download a program that edited the fonts.. and the circle loading thing on the mouse etc... You have any idea on what the name of that program can be? I have uninstalled it. It was a common program. I'm searching, but can't find anything
[19:56] <jeff__> I have a Netgear N150 and I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I am currently on a different USB Wireless dongle right now, so any suggestions would help greatly.
[19:56] <tarrenj> trism, whats with the -$(uname -r)?
[19:56] <trism> tarrenj: it just gets the version of your running kernel
[19:56] <Pici> yzhd: Uhh... I'm not sure, sorry.  I'm not much of a gui person.
[19:56] <tarrenj> ahh thanks
[19:57] <yzhd> Pici, I see. Thanks for all your help though! I appreciate it :)
[19:57] <sentriz|netbook> im stuck on 'ld config derrered processing now taking place' after doing 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell'
[19:57] <sentriz|netbook> :(
[19:57] <sentriz|netbook> its been like 3hrs
[19:58] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: stuck means ? system frozen ?
[19:58] <sentriz|netbook> its just staying there - system isnt frozen
[19:58] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: ctrl+c
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> sentriz|netbook: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[19:58]  * ldvx board
[19:58] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:58] <tarrenj> when in doubt, Ctrl+C, then rerun the command, sentriz|netbook
[20:00] <tarrenj> trism, http://pastebin.com/ciftspeU  errors installing
[20:00] <sentriz|netbook> @ActionParsnip - oneiric
[20:00] <jeff__> I have a Netgear N150 and I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I am currently on a different USB Wireless dongle right now, so any suggestions would help greatly.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> sentriz|netbook: are you getting the package from the main repo or a ppa?
[20:00] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: issued dpkg command ?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: tried ndiswrapper?
[20:00] <roasted> ActionParsnip: any idea how I'd accomplish taht task (gnome-session-quit --no-prompt) but with xfce?
[20:00] <trism> tarrenj: what does uname -a; return?
[20:01] <tarrenj> trism, nevermind fixed it
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> roasted: not sure, let me see.
[20:01] <tarrenj> and Linux Veelox 3.3.2-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 14 09:48:37 CEST 2012 x86_64 AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[20:01] <sentriz|netbook> er
[20:01] <DasEi> ?
[20:01] <tarrenj> meh, kinda big, but not too big, close though
[20:02] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, yes and it says its successful, but it says this in the terminal. netathurx : driver installed	device (0846:9030) present.  But still nothing is showing up for it in iwconfig.
[20:02] <tarrenj> also, make is working now, thanks trism
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: did you run:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[20:02] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: issued dpkg command ?
[20:02] <sentriz|netbook> i will
[20:02] <roasted> ActionParsnip: looks like xfce session is xfce4-session, but not sure how to drop it. it says command not found = xfce4-session-quit --no-prompt
[20:03] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, yes
[20:03] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: please put nick when responding
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> roasted: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xfce4-session-logout
[20:03] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: run:   sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper.conf
[20:04] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, did that then reran the modprobe thing and it still not showing up in iwconfig or ifconfig
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: all the files need to have a .conf extension in that folder for some weird reason
[20:04] <roasted> ActionParsnip: you the man.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> roasted: all I do is web search
[20:04] <tarrenj> roasted, who the man?
[20:04] <roasted> ActionParsnip: hey, I did too.
[20:04] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - it asked for a pass, I gave it one, and thats it
[20:04] <roasted> ActionParsnip: perhaps I fail @ web search :(
[20:05] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:05] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: what was the package you tried to install ?
[20:05] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, okay well that errors fixed, but still the same problem.
[20:05] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - gnome-shell
[20:06] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell last then
[20:06] <tarrenj> anyone have anything against running make clean install?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[20:06] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell                          last then
[20:06] <jeff__> ActionParsnip, no
[20:06] <sentriz|netbook> omg
[20:06] <DasEi> tarrenj: nope, but wrong channel if you are running arch
[20:07] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - can you put all commands in "'''s" please :)
[20:07] <tarrenj> DasEi, I know, I just figured I could come here since compiling from source is a bit more of a newbby thing, and the compile commands are the same,  thanks for letting me stay, later
[20:07] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: I will start the terminal lines so
[20:07] <sentriz|netbook> thanks
[20:08] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:08] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell
[20:09] <crazyandi86> hi! i need to find a program, which is located anywhere in my $PATH. Can i search for it with wildcards?
[20:09] <crazyandi86> i mean like "findprog *programxy*"
[20:09] <guntbert> tarrenj: something to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[20:10] <escapeplan> Anybody here familiar with Conky ?
[20:10] <DasEi> crazyandi86: sudo updatedb && locate <programname>
[20:10] <DasEi> escapeplan: just ask the real q
[20:10] <sh0t> hi all.
[20:10] <ivan__> ciao
[20:10] <lwizardl> is there a way to create a sort of docked area to have the mounted partitions always showup in versus just randomly popping up somewhere on the desktop ?
[20:10] <ivan__> ITALY????
[20:10] <sh0t> does anybody know how to use ipod shuffle on ubuntu ? (without virtualization or emualtion?)
[20:10] <crazyandi86> DasEi: you mean like "find / -name "*program*"
[20:10] <tarrenj> hmm, looks interesting, thanks guntbert
[20:10] <guntbert> !it | ivan__
[20:10] <sh0t> i read already something but nothing seems working
[20:11] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - okaym it's doing some stuff now lol
[20:11] <DasEi> crazyandi86: sudo updatedb && locate <programn*>
[20:11] <guntbert> tarrenj: you're welcome :-)
[20:11] <DasEi> crazyandi86: like locate gedi*
[20:11] <crazyandi86> DasEi: ok, i'll give it a try
[20:11] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - Setting up gnome-shell (some stuff 0ubuntu)
[20:11] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - Setting up gnome-shell (some stuff 0ubuntu)
[20:12] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - "Setting up gnome-shell (some stuff 0ubuntu)"
[20:12] <roasted> Question - I'm trying to make some Linux systems in our environment "self healing" for student profile issues on our machines. Long story short, I want to create a user who runs a script when they log in. The script needs root priviledges. How can I issue root priviledges to this script when ONLY this particular user logs in? I was going to tag it in startup applications and run it via "command" but it needs sudo so I'm not sure how
[20:12] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: ?
[20:12] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - thats what it says
[20:12] <sysfailure> i would write a script and add it to his permissions
[20:13] <guntbert> roasted: what speak against sudo?
[20:13] <crazyandi86> DasEi: for performance reasons i at first only wanted to search in my PATH, doesn't updatedb index my whole filesystem?
[20:13] <roasted> guntbert: pardon?
[20:13] <DasEi> crazyandi86: yes, one time , I had my issues with find
[20:14] <guntbert> roasted: you talked about "but it needs sudo" - where is the problem?
[20:14] <roasted> guntbert: if I run a root command in "startup applications" will it not prompt me for my password?
[20:14] <crazyandi86> DasEi: but i mean, i can search quite fast for programs starting with program by typing "prog <TAB><TAB>"
[20:15] <yakster> if any one has the time, and the know how, I ahve an issue with sound sometimes not working on my system. I believe that it is because ALSA is not making my audio device default. it changes with every boot… can anyone help me with setting it up so a specific device is default?
[20:15] <crazyandi86> DasEi: isn't a tool out there for doing that with wildcards?
[20:15] <sysfailure> run a shell script in the users file, when he logs on it will use his password if you assign it to his login
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> yakster: you could have a command that runs at login and sets the sound device.
[20:16] <DasEi> crazyandi86: you can pipe via grep, I'm not sure if I understand you
[20:16] <yakster> that is what I am looking for… I didnt know what owuld be the best way…
[20:16] <guntbert> roasted: ah I see  -  well you can give a user the permissions to run *one command* and to not need a password with sudo - it is only a little complicated
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> yakster: you may find:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[20:16] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: still spilling errors ?
[20:17] <crazyandi86> DasEi: i yust mean, i seriously don't want to index my whole filesys before searching a (perhaps new) command in my path
[20:17] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - its now "stuck" on 'setting up gnome-shell (3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1) ...'
[20:17] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - its now "stuck" on 'setting up gnome-shell (3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1) ...'
[20:17] <sentriz|netbook> ooopps
[20:18] <yakster> here is my aplay -l
[20:18] <yakster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/933087/
[20:18] <roasted> guntbert: ehh that's kind of where I get hung up. I need a root command to run at login for a specific user. It's a long story... basically I'm in an elementary school running linux laptops. Cool, right? They use a local "student" account that automatically logs them in. For SOME reason, no idea why, but for some reason sometimes their home folder gets borked and we have to reset it.
[20:18] <roasted> guntbert: the reset? rm -rf /home/student, then cp -R it from /etc/skel, and reassign perms and ownership.
[20:18] <Guest71555> does anyone know the best way going about partitioning a harddrive to run two OS alongside each other?
[20:18] <yakster> sometimes I get 2 card 1's, and other times 2 card 0's
[20:18] <beandog> roasted: rsync --delete would be easier
[20:19] <beandog> maybe.
[20:19] <roasted> guntbert: I want to create a user named ResetProfile, with a command that runs, via root, when the ResetProfile user logs in. Then at hte end of the script, it automatically logs them out. The script has been tested and it's done. I just need a way to run it via root.
[20:19] <DasEi> !gparted | Guest71555
[20:19] <sentriz|netbook> Guest71555 - wubi
[20:19] <DasEi> !dualboot | Guest71555
[20:19] <roasted> beandog: oh, true. I hadn't thought of that. Same basic concept, though.. It's a matter of like 10 MB that gets copied.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> yakster: deleting the pulse things may help
[20:19] <yakster> guest71555, gparted
[20:19] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - its now "stuck" on 'setting up gnome-shell (3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1) ...'
[20:19] <roasted> Long story short, if I can find a way to SOMEHOW run this root script at a specific user login, I'm golden.
[20:20] <DasEi> Guest71555: wubi I wouldn't suggest for long term run
[20:20] <yakster> ok, I am not to familiar with pulse, isnt that the replacemnt for ALSA?
[20:20] <beandog> roasted: .bash_login ?
[20:20] <yakster> or somthing like that
[20:20] <Guest71555> ok thanks
[20:20] <roasted> beandog: as root, though?
[20:20] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - its now "stuck" on 'setting up gnome-shell (3.2.2.1-0ubuntu0.1) ...'
[20:20] <beandog> roasted: create a shell script, and tell sudo to allow the user to run it as root, but only that command
[20:20] <guntbert> roasted: use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers, there you can allow one single user to run one single command (and without the need for a password) even with root permissions
[20:21] <roasted> guntbert: not sure I'm entirely following...
[20:21] <yakster> ok, what was the pulse command again?
[20:21] <Pici> roasted: but make sure that the script itself cannot be edited by that user, only read and executed.
[20:21] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: ctrl+c it again then
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> yakster: pulse is an abstraction for alsa
[20:21] <roasted> guntbert: I can basically tell the sudoers file to allow a user to run one specific command as root?
[20:21] <beandog> roasted: you can  give sudo permissions to run just ONE command
[20:21] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook:"sudo apt-get -f install
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> (21:16:54) ActionParsnip: yakster: you may find:    killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*            a simple scrollup would have shown that....
[20:21] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook:does this add anything ?
[20:21] <DasEi> does*
[20:21] <beandog> or any # of commands, really
[20:22] <yakster> I accidently closed the chat room… sry
[20:22] <guntbert> roasted: roasted yes, like beandog said too - AND you can allow that without the need for a password
[20:22] <beandog> the principle is that you can limit them to running specific commands
[20:22] <yakster> ok so removing pulse will cause the system to regenerate its config???
[20:23] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - 0 installed 0 newly .... 0 everything
[20:24] <roasted> guntbert: hmm, this sounds like what I need, but I'm not sure how I'd actually do it... do you have an example, or a link or something?
[20:24] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:24] <sentriz|netbook> oh god
[20:24] <beandog> roasted: just google for sudo howto, or read the manpage
[20:24] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - hoe to c&p that
[20:24] <beandog> it's pretty simple
[20:24] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - *how to c&p that
[20:25] <yakster> ok I have no pulseaudip processes
[20:25] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: simply issue cmds as given, it reurns a url, give that here
[20:25] <yakster> I do have ~./pulse/"gobbledygook"/ directory in my home folder
[20:26] <guntbert> beandog: please show him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo  when he returns, I have to leave
[20:26] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: or c/p commands from messenger to terminal ?
[20:26] <beandog> guntbert: kk thx
[20:26] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - http://paste.ubuntu.com/933102/
[20:26] <crazyandi86> DasEi: again me, did it like this: "for i in $(printenv PATH | tr : " ");do find $i -name "*python*";done;"
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> yakster: the process needs killing to delete the pulse cookie and the pulse folder, they will then be regenerated
[20:26] <Mongey> Hey I'm getting really bad distortion / noise when I try to use my mic
[20:28] <crazyandi86> DasEi: think it will be faster, because it will only search in PATH, i think i should define a function for it
[20:28] <Mongey> Actually sound seems to be distorted too
[20:29] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - http://paste.ubuntu.com/933102/
[20:29] <DasEi> crazyandi86: sure, as said find played tricks on me, I like locate better
[20:30] <DrManhattan> I need a guide for the available kernels please - Im running ubuntu on a VM and I'm trying to get the best kernel for the machine
[20:30] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: got it the first time, apart from extras I can't find anything suspicious
[20:31] <crazyandi86> yes, at first also thougt so, but when i got the trick with find, you will like it to
[20:31] <sentriz|netbook> DasEi - so what do I do? Im sorry this is really bugging me
[20:31] <cocolos> msg nickserv identify carlosrojas
[20:31] <crazyandi86> i mean, there for sure will be use for both of the programs
[20:32] <sentriz|netbook> omg lol
[20:32] <yakster> ok, how do I find the PID of pulse audio?
[20:32] <crazyandi86> DasEi: thanks for your help
[20:33] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell
[20:34]  * yakster falls
[20:34]  * yakster fails at life
[20:37] <DasEi> yakster: ps -aux | grep pulse*
[20:37] <yakster> thx
[20:38] <yakster> ok, aparently I dont have pulse running on my system
[20:39] <DasEi> sentriz|netbook: if that also fails, you either have to crawl apt's messages or first set up a "rural" sources.list by commenting out any fancy lines, like updates, backports,extras and agaoin try to install, also I can't predict what extras with partners disabled will do
[20:39] <DasEi> yakster: or look in top/htop
[20:39] <mnewton> hey #ubuntu - anyone good at bash who can help me write a command
[20:40] <beandog> yakster: okay, out of curiosity, what are you trying to do?
[20:40] <yakster> top/htop???
[20:40] <DasEi> beandog: PID of pulse-aud.
[20:40] <yakster> alrighty then…. when my system starts, sometimes audio starts other times not….
[20:40] <yakster> well it alyws starts but not alyws are the sound cards the same
[20:41] <DasEi> mnewton: #bash
[20:41] <yakster> like plughw:0,0 is not alyws 0,0, sometimes it  1,0
[20:42] <beandog> yakster: how many sound cards do you have
[20:42] <beandog> DasEi: pidof pulseaudio ?
[20:42] <DasEi> beandog: is what yakster was looking for, y
[20:43] <yakster> its xbmcbuntu distro I am running… but the issue isnt xbmc, its ubuntu…
[20:43] <beandog> DasEi: I like pkill much better than kill
[20:43] <beandog> er.  yah.
[20:43] <beandog> not that anybody cares. :)
[20:43] <kubav> hi, what offers ubuntu instead of xampp?
[20:44] <DasEi> beandog: anyway, I'm tired now, later
[20:44] <Guest19755> I want to find out if my harddrive is SSD... any suggestions?
[20:45] <yakster> 2, if you ocunt the HDMI audio…
[20:45] <daftykins> Guest19755: check its' name
[20:46] <Guest19755> how do I check it's name? I'm running oneiric ocelot
[20:46] <yakster> guest19755, open the case, and with the power on spin it, does it feel like a gryo?
[20:46] <beandog> yakster: so you're trying to get it to load the audio devices in a fixed order every time
[20:46] <_r00t_> Guest19755: lsb_release -a
[20:46] <beandog> _r00t_: ooh thats cool
[20:47] <beandog> I always just used cat /etc/lsb-release
[20:47] <DrManhattan> ok so im looking at the kernel versions - and the linux-virutal is stripped of drivers? what would I need to do to get a specific driver for that - specifically the driver for my easycap 002, which is a module
[20:47] <shazzner> hi there
[20:47] <_r00t_> beandog: whatever makes you happy ;)
[20:47] <shazzner> ok I've got a weird, terrible problem. I have a 750GB disk that's is somehow completely full
[20:47] <yakster> sry i am chatting over 3g, and connection isnt to stable
[20:48] <ardian> Hi I am using Psensor to check my laptop temp what is normal temp ?
[20:48] <ardian> I have an i5 proccessor
[20:48] <shazzner> somehow it's showing 100% usage, but running the disk analysis program on the livecd only shows 20GBs used
[20:48] <yakster> yes that is correct beandog
[20:48] <shazzner> what's is going on? how do I get that space back?
[20:48] <Guest19755> from the terminal?
[20:48] <_r00t_> ardian: varies from chipset to chipset ... 40-50C are ok temps
[20:48] <beandog> yakster: are they all the same audio device?
[20:49] <_r00t_> shazzner: what os are you using ?
[20:49] <beandog> yakster: that is, are they all using the same audio module?  Because if they aren't, you could just force the order of modules being loaded.  That'd do it.
[20:49] <shazzner> _r00t_: ubuntu 12.04 on the disk
[20:49] <yakster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/933087/
[20:49] <beandog> yakster: or maybe you could reference the audio devices by name instead of index
[20:49] <shazzner> _r00t_: ubuntu 11.10 on the livecd
[20:49] <yakster> aplay -l
[20:49] <ardian> _r00t_, It's normal on idle but when I start some program like the "yes" command it starts and gets to 64*
[20:49] <snip_> hello
[20:49] <beandog> yakster: I like the module idea better
[20:49] <Garet> if i install winxp and than install ubuntu on second partition does grub will see xp boot too?
[20:50] <beandog> unless it's all hdma-intel
[20:50] <shrax> Garet yes
[20:50] <beandog> er, hda-intel
[20:50] <Garet> thank you
[20:50] <_r00t_> ardian: seens high for your cpu .... might be an idea to clear out dust from the fans / vents
[20:50] <beandog> yakster: either way, it's an alsa problem, not a ubuntu one
[20:50] <snip_> I have a question regarding getting the display backlight keys to work on a MacBook Pro 5,4 running 11.10
[20:50] <ardian> _r00t_, I bought this laptop last month
[20:51] <yakster> ok, so how to i refernce them… 1/2 the time it works with plughw:1 and toher times default… if that makes any sence
[20:51] <ardian> _r00t_, I don't know it works fine on Windows
[20:51] <yakster> is there an ALSA irc rm?
[20:51] <beandog> yakster: try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[20:51] <wylde> !alis | yakster
[20:51] <Guest19755> it just says no lsb modules available...
[20:52] <yakster> I just did a "sudo apt-get install pulseaudio" now … what that did IDK…. jsut sayin…
[20:53] <Garet> what version of ubuntu should i choose for my first linux if i have not so new pc and to have stable and supported one? :)
[20:53] <beandog> Garet: 11.10 should be okay
[20:54] <Garet> i installed 10.10 but it looks as not supported anymore ;) lucky me ;) thanks for adwise :)
[20:54] <yakster> wow-weee
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> yakster: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[20:55] <kubav> what offers ubuntu instead of xampp?
[20:55] <yakster> oneiric
[20:55] <teligard> Would anyone be able to tell me why when I boot my ubuntu box, the shares that I set up in the fstab are available, but if I umount -a -t cifs then mount -a, the system returns an error stating that cifs is not supported.  My fstab only has things set to be set up as cifs shares.
[20:56] <teligard> running ubuntu 11.10
[20:56] <beandog> teligard: are you trying to mount them as your user or root
[20:58] <DrManhattan> I want to be able to use my easycap 002 in my VM, I hope the driver is there for it
[20:58] <DrManhattan> if it isnt there for the virtual kernel, how do I get the module for it?
[21:01] <DrManhattan> cmon guys 1660 people here and no one knows how to get a module for the virtual kernel?
[21:01] <beandog> should load automatically.
[21:01] <beandog> if it doesnt, well, that's weird.
[21:01] <DrManhattan> nah the virtual kernel doesn't have that
[21:01] <DrManhattan> the normal kernel loads it just fine
[21:01] <beandog> then don't use a virtual kernel
[21:01] <DrManhattan> for the VM?
[21:01] <beandog> right
[21:01] <DrManhattan> alrighty, thx
[21:03] <tbrown> I love you guys Just something to say Random
[21:03] <tbrown> I know go to Ubuntu Random chat room
[21:04] <DrManhattan> generic it is!
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: did you ask in #vbox or #vmware  whichever tech you are using?
[21:06] <DrManhattan> ActionParsnip, nah, it's an ubuntu Q but im cool w generic, it actually works better in vmware player than virtual
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: I'd as in #vmware too
[21:06]  * beandog gives tbrown a cookie
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924504&page=19
[21:07] <rakia> 3aslema
[21:07] <_r00t_> soz about that
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1753438
[21:07] <rakia> anis tu la
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> DrManhattan: modprobe easycap 'bars=0'
[21:09] <DrManhattan> thank you
[21:10] <maintou> anyone with some idea about how to set partitions for hybrid ssd+hdd ? i have 20gb ssd + 320 gb hdd , and my Q is should i use ssd only for /  and dd for swap and /home , or some others solution for it ? swap is no good for ssd
[21:11] <wroathe> How does Photoshop 5.5 run on Ubuntu?
[21:11] <wroathe> For those of you who have gotten it to work
[21:12] <beandog> maintou: that's a pretty good idea you've got already
[21:12] <auronandace> !appdb | wroathe
[21:13] <wroathe> auronandace: Thanks, I already know that's the preferred way of setting things up. My question was if any of you have experiencing with setting it up and using it
[21:13] <izzhed> hello there
[21:13] <auronandace> wroathe: better asked in #winehq
[21:14] <maintou> beandog: ok thx im o my way to install first tie Ubuntu on  my machine ! (not beginner just not used ubuntu , not big fan of .deb packages)
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> wroathe: could use Gimp instead
[21:14] <i7c> i can't hear my vlc audio with pulseaudio... it is shown in the "playback" tab of volume control, but the bars dont move... what could i do?
[21:14] <Celltech> True or false. XFCE is lighter and faster than Gnome
[21:14] <sandeep_> unable to compile kernel module for vmware any help?
[21:14] <beandog> Celltech: true
[21:14] <auronandace> Celltech: true
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Celltech: lighter, yes. Faster is dependant on nconfig
[21:15] <vincenzo> ciao
[21:15] <Celltech> Ubuntu 10.04 How do I get it
[21:15] <vincenzo> !list
[21:15] <auronandace> !xfce | Celltech
[21:15] <beandog> maintou: good luck, the installer will help you with partitioning
[21:15] <i7c> Celltech: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[21:15] <Newbuntu2> hello
[21:16] <auronandace> !vmware | sandeep_
[21:16] <_r00t_> 'ello
[21:16] <sandeep_> unable to compile kernel module for vmware in ubuntu 12.4 any help?
[21:16] <Celltech> Awesome... Then I reboot and select it from the boot menu?
[21:16] <_r00t_> sandeep_: what module ?
[21:16] <auronandace> !12.04 | sandeep_
[21:16] <vincenzo> giochi xbox 360
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sandeep_: ask in #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support please
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> sandeep_: it's also 12.04 not 12.5
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> *12.4
[21:16] <auronandace> Celltech: you select it from the login screen
[21:17] <Newbuntu2> I need to convert timestamps in a csv file - the first column is "M/D/YYYY HH:MM:SS.ss", and I want to get the unix time equivalent
[21:17] <Celltech> Ok. so log out, then log into it instead. then I can go through and remove/purge the desktops I don't want and generic versions?
[21:17] <Newbuntu2> any examples?
[21:17] <auronandace> Celltech: removing gnome might be tricky
[21:17] <_r00t_> Newbuntu2: ask the question on #perl
[21:17] <auronandace> !purexfce | Celltech
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Celltech: the choice is at the bottom middle after you click your username
[21:18] <Celltech> So just leave it but don't use it.
[21:18] <chiliblue> does ubuntu have all the v4l modules or is that something I will have to compile in
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Celltech: probably easier
[21:18] <vincenzo> b sera
[21:18] <beandog> chiliblue: theyre in there
[21:18] <auronandace> Celltech: yes, that is what i would do
[21:18] <Celltech> Perfect. Sorry for not naming anyone. I've got 3 of you talking to me. And I'm paying full attention
[21:19] <chiliblue> beandog, in the main distro or precomiled in a package (that I don't seem to have installed
[21:19] <beandog> chiliblue: just part of the installed kernel
[21:20] <zozovitch> Plz ! Can i have the name of French Ubuntu ?
[21:20] <auronandace> !fr | zozovitch
[21:21] <zozovitch> Merci a vous
[21:21] <chiliblue> beandog wonder why they aren't coming up for my tv usb capture device. The web cam on my notebook works just fine
[21:21] <zozovitch> Thank's a lot :)
[21:21] <beandog> chiliblue: could be firmware
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Celltech: you could install Xubuntu if you like XFCE and it will give a cleaner OS
[21:21] <vincenzo> irc.eltrium.net
[21:22] <tbrown> Am going to load Ubuntu in windows which VM should I use I have the Answer but I just want to see what you say:)
[21:22] <chiliblue> for the device, ok I will look into that. I guess you mean it is something that has to be pushed to the device.
[21:22] <l3d> was wondering is it sudo apt-get install gnome-session?     to make 11.10 look like and act like 10.10
[21:22] <Celltech> I had it a while back and it was so slow for some reason. So I came back to ubuntu 10.04 and it's flawless. But then again I was on xubuntu 11.10
[21:22] <vincenzo> list
[21:22] <zykotick9> !notunity | l3d
[21:23] <tbrown> Am going to load Ubuntu in windows which VM should I use I have the Answer but I just want to see what you say:)
[21:23] <vincenzo> lista xbox 360
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> l3d: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed/
[21:24] <banseljaj> hello.
[21:24] <banseljaj> What is the way to have a script start at bootup?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> banseljaj: is it after the user logs in or during boot, and does the script need root access?
[21:25] <banseljaj> ActionParsnip: No root access, after boot up
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> banseljaj: in dash there is an app called 'startup applications' you can add stuff there
[21:26] <banseljaj> Hmm.
[21:26] <banseljaj> Thanks
[21:27] <jvargas> what screencast application works? I've tried recordmydesktop but it has problems when converting to other formats and uploading to youtube.
[21:27] <jvargas> any recommendation?
[21:27] <beandog> jvargas: don't encode for youtube and let them do it
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> jvargas: xvidwincap or http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/help-test-new-screen-recording-app-eidete/
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> jvargas: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/linux-screencasting-tool-kazam-goes-gstreamer-adds-pulseaudio-support/
[21:28] <_r00t_> pulseaudio from 'natty updates' screwed me :( .... downgrading is a pain
[21:28] <jiffe98> anyone ever boot a machine via iscsi?  Is the iscsi disk supposed to show up as a local disk during linux installation?
[21:28] <banseljaj> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:29] <jvargas> beandog: I did, once it worked fine, next time it tells me the video is wrong, and with another video, it show it pixelated.
[21:29] <jvargas> thanks ActionParsnip, I am reading about them.
[21:31] <hypn0> ActionParsnip, they finally got the message, only took abt 2 versions :-) gnome classic
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> hypn0: how do you mean?
[21:32] <kdford> test
[21:32] <hypn0> not many desktop ppl like unity ActionParsnip
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> hypn0: then use xfce, lxde, kde or any other DE?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> hypn0: gnome-panel was always available.....
[21:34] <hypn0> they should have defaulted to classic, with option for unity ActionParsnip
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> hypn0: you can install mini ISO, then install gnome-panel
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> hypn0: again, as I have said for the last year. You don't have to use Unity
[21:35] <vexaxv> hey parsnip
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: howdy
[21:36] <vexaxv> ActionParsnip, any idea if the fglrx proprietary ati/amd drivers are the same thing as amd-driver-installer-12-3-x86.x86_64.run downloaded from there site?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: I'd imagine so, the proprietary driver is only made by AMD...
[21:37] <jvargas> ActionParsnip: Kazam did the job. I will recommend it.
[21:37] <scientes> vexaxv, yes, but the debian way is MUCH MUCH nicer
[21:38] <scientes> *debian/ubuntu way
[21:38] <tbrown> I was wondering on ubuntu do they have a team out in Iowa and if they do were is a located at or something because I was searching for it and I could not find it
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> jvargas: I've used none, I just know of those pages
[21:38] <vexaxv> ActionParsnip, but is it updated to the current version on there site? if u dont know how do i check lol
[21:38] <scientes> vexaxv, also the radeon FOSS driver is pretty good these days
[21:38] <vexaxv> lol
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> vexaxv: try the app, see what version is installed
[21:38] <pilotbub> theres something you rarely hear
[21:38] <scientes> vexaxv, yes it is actively updated
[21:38] <pilotbub> "The FOSS driver is pretty good these days"
[21:38] <vexaxv> k thanks guys
[21:39] <scientes> pilotbub, well AMD has opened up specs
[21:39] <vexaxv> got another question for ya guys lol
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> pilotbub: i get decent performance off nouveau on my nvidia 6150 onboard
[21:39] <scientes> pilotbub, and the radeon driver has better 2D performance
[21:40] <tbrown> I was wondering on ubuntu do they have a team out in Iowa and if they do were is a located at or something because I was searching for it and I could not find it
[21:40] <vexaxv> i tryed going to programming channels but nobody talks so this might be the wrong place to ask but i figured id try..im starting up programming, i wanted to know what do u guys think the best language would be for me to learn (idc if there hard i prefer em then "start here its easy") for making linux programs or even window programs, c++? python?
[21:40] <vexaxv> i heard python was more for support/plugins
[21:40] <scientes> vexaxv, python or ruby
[21:41] <vexaxv> why not c++
[21:41] <vexaxv> i thought thats what made everything nowadays
[21:41] <scientes> vexaxv, or vala over c++
[21:41] <iNeal> Anyone know how to fix the "only wallpaper loading" on Ubuntu 11.10? When I log in, it only loads the wallpaper, nothing else.
[21:42] <scientes> gtk is alot of vala, and qt is alot of c++
[21:42] <vexaxv> whats better about python over c++ and c++ over python?
[21:42] <scientes> iNeal, click the ubuntu icon next to your name, and select ubuntu-2d, and see if that works
[21:42] <zenmaster> Any expierence getting Radeon 7000-m driver for Ubuntu Server?
[21:43] <Riddell> vexaxv: for learning python is much better
[21:43] <scientes> zendeavor, did you try a current kernel, like 3.2? (radeon driver)
[21:43] <iNeal> scientes: I don't even have that top bar - all I see if the wallpaper. But I did try loading ubuntu-2d via terminal; it didn't help.
[21:43] <Riddell> c++ has too many concepts for it to be a beginner language
[21:43] <scientes> iNeal, try metacity --replace via terminal, DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace
[21:43] <zenmaster> scientes: No not sure yet.
[21:43] <vexaxv> well which language is best as a foundation (i know ill need another language for plugins and crap)
[21:43] <vexaxv> best to make games or programs
[21:44] <zenmaster> I have 3.0.0-12-server.
[21:44] <vexaxv> on linux mainly but windows as well
[21:45] <scientes> zendeavor, http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[21:45] <scientes> iNeal, you can get back to the login screen with ctrl-alt-sysrq-k
[21:46] <vexaxv> any ideas? best language to make games or programs on linux
[21:46] <scientes> iNeal, (sysrq == print screen button)
[21:46] <iNeal> scientes: It's a server :/
[21:46] <tbrown> can I run xchat in ubuntu
[21:46] <zykotick9> scientes: iNeal it's actuall alt+sysrq+k (ctrl not required)
[21:46] <vexaxv> yes tbrown
[21:46] <Lil> tbrown, sure
[21:46] <Areckx> I am having trouble with my iBus Anthy input for Japanese
[21:46] <Areckx> are there any alternatives for Japanese input?
[21:46] <vexaxv> im on xchat right now
[21:47] <tbrown> vexaxv: Thank you
[21:47] <Areckx> The issue is that I can input hiragana but the input does not convert to kanji
[21:47] <vexaxv> tbrown, np
[21:47] <vexaxv> scientes, best language for programs/games on linux??
[21:48] <iNeal> scientes: this is what i see when i log in - http://cl.ineal.me/1L1G422B0j1S383z0Z1B
[21:48] <scientes> Areckx, there is scim
[21:48] <scientes> Areckx, however scim is broken with gtk3 from what i've heard
[21:48] <Areckx> I am running 10.04
[21:48] <Areckx> I heard of IM-JA
[21:48] <scientes> iNeal, yeah you need to use ubuntu-2d
[21:48] <Areckx> but when attempting to install it I ran into problems
[21:49] <scientes> iNeal, or run metacity --replace
[21:49] <iNeal> And when I do DISPLAY:0 thing, I get No protocol specified Window manager error: Unable to open X display :0
[21:49] <brynne_> hi
[21:49] <brynne_> what does this error code mean?: http://i.imgur.com/VQXjp.jpg
[21:49] <brynne_> :X
[21:49] <scientes> iNeal, you only have to set the DISPLAY variable if you are running from a tty that isn't in the desktop session
[21:49] <iNeal> scientes: Ah, with metacity --replace, i get the top thing to close folder/apps
[21:50] <Areckx> scientes:: I think I have gtk2 running
[21:50] <vexaxv> brynne_, means he sucks to much black ****
[21:50] <brynne_> ?
[21:50] <iNeal> scientes: Is there any way I can make it load ubuntu-2d by default?
[21:50] <scientes> Areckx, some apps are gtk2 and some apps have moved to gtk3
[21:50] <Areckx> oh I see
[21:50] <scientes> iNeal, yes, click the ubuntu icon next to your name when you log in, and select ubuntu-2d
[21:51] <scientes> iNeal, or install gnome-session-fallback for a more gnome 2 like experience (with gnome-panel)
[21:51] <iNeal> scientes: It's a server and I use NX NoMachine to login
[21:51] <iNeal> oh okay
[21:52] <Areckx> I would like to use an input method that is at least as good as Microsoft IME
[21:52] <iNeal> I already have gnome-session-fallback
[21:52] <scientes> iNeal, the sessions are in /usr/share/xsessions/
[21:52] <scientes> iNeal, im not sure how nx selects them
[21:53] <iNeal> scientes: I want nx to select ubuntu-2d right? or gnome-fallback?
[21:53] <iNeal> gnome-classic.desktop gnome-shell.desktop xfce.desktop xubuntu.desktop gnome.desktop ubuntu-2d.desktop xsession.desktop gnome-fallback.desktop ubuntu.desktop xterm.desktop
[21:53] <scientes> iNeal, either one should work, choose depending on your preferences
[21:53] <iNeal> those are all i have
[21:53] <iNeal> Okay, thanks
[21:53] <scientes> iNeal, xfce would also work
[21:59] <schultza> what is the name of the package for the gnome menu that looks like opensuse or even regular suse?
[22:00] <zykotick9> schultza: IF that exists - you'd need to go outside the default ubuntu repositories.
[22:01] <schultza> it used to be part of the ubuntu package... oh... mint uses it as well
[22:01] <scientes> schultza, do you mean cinnomon?
[22:01] <schultza> never heard of it...
[22:01] <scientes> could be
[22:01] <iNeal> scientes: Awesome, I changed nx config to load gnome-classic and it worked!
[22:01] <iNeal> thanks :)
[22:01] <zykotick9> schultza: cinnomon = mint's interface
[22:01] <OerHeks> schultza, KDE ?
[22:04] <schultza> it's the closest to what im looking for at the moment... yes
[22:05] <xMopxShe1l> hey, if I shut off my computer while a raid 5 mdadm array is syncing, will my progress be lost?
[22:06] <jiffe98> is it possible to install ubuntu on a remote iscsi disk?
[22:06] <jiffe98> the BIOS supports booting iscsi, I gave it a shot and it installs but fails to install a boot loader
[22:07] <skel> jiffe98: hm yeah I don't know that your boot parition could be iSCSI
[22:08] <clausen> I can't get foreign languages working in the latest beta...
[22:08] <zykotick9> jiffe98: could you install grub to a local disk?  grub would need to support iscsi as well (i have no idea about that)... good luck.
[22:08] <clausen> the gnome-language-support option doesn't let me use Portuguese
[22:08] <clausen> (even though it says I installed it already, when I go to Add/Remove languages)
[22:08] <skel> clausen: did you switch over to it?
[22:08] <clausen> zykotick9, can't grub just bootstrap off the BIOS's support for iscsi?
[22:08] <clausen> skel, I can't
[22:09] <clausen> skel, it's greyed out
[22:09] <zykotick9> clausen: ? big question mark there - i don't know
[22:09] <SolarNRG> Does anybody in here like putting metal in the microwave?
[22:09] <jiffe98> thats what I was figuring
[22:09] <zykotick9> clausen: i don't even know if iscsi has a typical mbr?  never touched iscsi in my life ;)
[22:10] <skel> clausen: does it show up in locale -a ?
[22:10] <jiffe98> but I don't know what the motherboard's support for iscsi boot really does
[22:10] <clausen> skel, everything shows up in locale -a
[22:10] <clausen> (sorry, not everything
[22:10] <clausen> but chinese, german, ...)
[22:11] <clausen> (but not spanish.  weird!)
[22:11] <ukbeast> Unity is way wizz on my netbook now, and wifi suspend works out of the box!
[22:11] <skel> clausen: have you tried using update-locale LANG=<whatever> LC_MESSAGES=POSIX ?
[22:12] <beandog> ukbeast: wifi suspend?
[22:12] <clausen> skel, $ update-locale LANG=pt_BR LC_MESSAGES=POSIX*** update-locale: Error: invalid locale settings:  LANG=pt_BR LC_MESSAGES=POSIX
[22:12] <clausen> zykotick9, you can put an MBR on anything...
[22:13] <ukbeast> when you suspend on 11.10, wifi stopped working
[22:13] <skel> clausen: what about pt_BR.UTF8 ?
[22:13] <clausen> skel, yes, that one works, but it wants root privileges
[22:13] <skel> clausen: hmm weird
[22:13] <clausen> (what does update-locale do?  it doesn't have a man page)
[22:13] <zykotick9> clausen: well, good luck.  i have no knowledge of booting iscsi so i'm of no assistance (should have just kept my mouth shut ;)
[22:14] <ukbeast> gnome 3.4 seems to be bloated in comparison to unity?
[22:14] <skel> clausen: I think it just sets those env variables and re-inits the environment so you don't have to logout /in. not positive on that though
[22:14]  * beandog recommends evilwm for lightweight goodness
[22:15] <beandog> I probably shouldn't say that here.
[22:15] <clausen> skel, ah, ok
[22:15] <ukbeast> beandog: link please :)
[22:15] <beandog> ukbeast: nothing
[22:15] <lionofgod> Hello, I accidentally typed sudo apt-get remove
[22:15] <lionofgod> I need help in restoring my system >.<
[22:15] <lionofgod> I have so far installed ubuntu-desktop, unity and gnome again
[22:15] <lionofgod> I dont know what else I need to install to restore system
[22:16] <lionofgod> is anyone able to help me?
[22:16] <ukbeast> beandog: ok
[22:16] <clausen> skel, this gives me portuguese help:  LANG=pt_BR.UTF8 ls --help
[22:16] <ukbeast> lionofgod how far can you get?
[22:16] <clausen> skel, what I'm really interested in is being able to use ibus for portuguese, hindi, and other scripts
[22:16] <lionofgod> I have unity working
[22:16] <lionofgod> my login screen is kind of messed up
[22:17] <skel> clausen: yeah you could just try setting LANG=pt_BR.UTF8 in your .bashrc but I don't know if the Window manager will pick that up
[22:17] <lionofgod> but it seems my files are okay
[22:17] <skel> clausen: I'm not familiar with ibus, whats that?
[22:17] <ukbeast> what needs to be installed?
[22:17] <lionofgod> I ahve no diea
[22:17] <skel> clausen: is that like a replacement for dbus?
[22:17] <lionofgod> is their any log
[22:17] <clausen> skel, it's a keyboard entry method
[22:17] <lionofgod> that gets filled when apt-get remove is run?
[22:17] <clausen> skel, no, it's not related to dbus
[22:17] <lionofgod> I know that my mic is not working right now
[22:17] <ukbeast> open terminal and press Up key
[22:18] <lionofgod> but I can hear stuff
[22:18] <ukbeast> it shows history in terminal
[22:18] <skel> clausen: ah ok
[22:18] <Areckx> I would like to use an Japaneseinput method that is at least as good as Microsoft IME
[22:18] <lionofgod> ?
[22:18] <Areckx> I am running 10.04
[22:19] <l3d> ok I have tried the fallback thing to make 11.10 look like 10.10 and wow did I go back to 10.10 (thank you remastersys) why mess with a good thing I will never know. so I was looking  and found that if I liked and would like to use what I am used to try linux mint 12 so thanks alot ubuntu
[22:19] <lionofgod> sudo apt-get remove python libapache2-mod-python
[22:19] <lionofgod> this is the command i typed
[22:19] <lionofgod> and it screwed me over
[22:19] <const_antine> hi, question, where can i learn about drafting non-disclosure agreements? is there a business/legal issues room for engineers?
[22:19] <ukbeast> sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-python
[22:19] <lionofgod> how can I check if improtant system files are missing?
[22:19] <lionofgod> no
[22:19] <lionofgod> but when i typed that command, instead of removing that package it started removing system files
[22:20] <lionofgod> i ahve ubuntu software center working I jsut dont know what files were unisntalled
[22:20] <acicula> const_antine: heu try contacting a lawyer?
[22:20] <skel> const_antine: an opensource backed irc network probably isn't the best place to look for proprietary legal advice :)
[22:20] <ukbeast> what it say under history?
[22:20] <lionofgod> bothing
[22:20] <lionofgod> *nothing
[22:21] <const_antine> it's not proprietary we just don't want our hardware guy to go all zuckerberg on us
[22:21] <lionofgod> i mean it jsut tells em commands but not what was uninstalled
[22:21] <lionofgod> my mic is not working how do i fix that?
[22:21] <const_antine> anyway thanks
[22:21] <skel> const_antine: non-disclosure == proprietary, but anyway maybe look around on opensource.org and check out the EFF's website.. I can't think of anywhere on this network that would be helpful
[22:21] <lionofgod> what software must have been uninstalled for mic not to work?
[22:21] <ukbeast> did it work before
[22:21] <lionofgod> yes
[22:22] <_r00t_> lionofgod: are you sure no one tampered with it ?
[22:22] <lionofgod> no
[22:22] <lionofgod> I actaully
[22:22] <lionofgod> typed sudo apt-get remove
[22:22] <lionofgod> and my system files were getting deleeted
[22:22] <lionofgod> so i shutdown computer
[22:22] <FloodBot1> lionofgod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <ukbeast> reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[22:23] <lionofgod> when i restarted desktop wasnt working so i installed ubuntu-desktop, unity, gnome
[22:23] <lionofgod> k
[22:23] <_r00t_> lionofgod: maybe someone shoved the mic up the... no wait
[22:23] <lionofgod> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal
[22:23] <ukbeast> yep
[22:24] <ukbeast> it makes sure all needed files are in check
[22:24] <_r00t_> earlier this week I returned to find that my kid thought it was great fun to rip off the keys on my laptop o_O
[22:24] <lionofgod> it says that it is installed
[22:24] <HelpWubi001> Can I please get some assistance with a Wubi installation ?
[22:24] <acicula> _r00t_: my cat used to do that too
[22:25] <lionofgod> how do i install compiz again?
[22:25] <ukbeast> Is synaptic installd?
[22:25] <lionofgod> yes
[22:25] <xMopxShe1l> if I shut off my computer while a raid 5 mdadm array is syncing or recovering, will my progress be lost?
[22:25] <acicula> HelpWubi001: do you have a particular question?
[22:26] <lionofgod> what do i use synaptic for??
[22:26] <ukbeast> right click ubuntu-minmal and click reintsall
[22:26] <lionofgod> k
[22:26] <_r00t_> acicula: damn .... matters got worse when the mother patched it up. I started typing and the keys started falling off ROFL
[22:26] <ukbeast> installing deb. files
[22:26] <ukbeast> *packages
[22:26] <lionofgod> k it is reinstalled
[22:26] <HelpWubi001> acicula: I've downloaded the 11.10 and installed it with wubi but afer the restart it won't continue. Something along the line of: Cannot find wubdir
[22:26] <lionofgod> anything else?
[22:27] <acicula> _r00t_: hehe, i fortunatel then had a dell where i could click the keys back in to place
[22:27] <ukbeast> reinstalled compiz?
[22:27] <lionofgod> yes am doing so
[22:27] <acicula> HelpWubi001: when you boot do you get some kind of boot menu or?
[22:27] <_r00t_> acicula: yeah :) Mother didn't know how to click them into place properly LOL *sighs* The joys of life
[22:28] <lionofgod> ok i will try restarting to see if everything is okay
[22:28] <lionofgod> thank you
[22:28] <ukbeast> OK, Ill wait
[22:28] <HelpWubi001> acicula: no, it goes into the process of booting the ubuntu installation but can't finnd wubdir (it looks on all partitions hdd 0,0 then 0,1 and so on)
[22:29] <ukbeast> _r00t_ needs a 403 *trolls
[22:29] <HelpWubi001> acicula: after it fails it prompts me to ctrl-alt-del and then I can see Windows 7 and Ubuntu menu
[22:29] <ukbeast> trying to use wubi?
[22:29] <_r00t_> ukbeast: sod that my apache.conf reads ErrorDocument 403 | 12000Volts
[22:30] <acicula> i suppose wubdir is where wubi puts the wubi installation files, can you see that directory anywere when you boot windows7?
[22:30] <ukbeast> XD you are sooo.. forbidden :P
[22:31] <HelpWubi001> acicula: I see an ubuntu folder and a wubildr.mbr
[22:31] <ukbeast> Master boot record? - mbr
[22:32] <Fyodorovna> !tab | ukbeast
[22:32] <tbrown2012> I have something to say I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and I want to know how I can install my drivers that would be okay I see a icon on the top right conder it looks like a drivers or something and it has a lock on it what do I do with that?
[22:32] <lionofgod> Hey
[22:32]  * _r00t_ wonders why mkv files created by ffmpeg can't be viewed on windows :/
[22:32] <lionofgod> Everything seems okay but my login screen is messed up
[22:33] <lionofgod> I get a box in middle of screen with usernames and I dont get to schoose desktop environemnt it jsut logs me in
[22:33] <mneptok> _r00t_: try VLC on Win
[22:33] <tbrown2012> I have something to say I just installed ubuntu 11.10 and I want to know how I can install my drivers that would be okay I see a icon on the top right conder it looks like a drivers or something and it has a lock on it what do I do with that?
[22:33] <lionofgod> this is ubuntu 11.10
[22:33] <rhin0> why am I getting on  sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`  Media Change: Please insert the disc labelle  'Xubuntu 10.04.2 _Lucid Lynx_ - Release amd64 (20110215.1)'  -- anyone know?
[22:33] <ukbeast> Did I type something I should not?
[22:33] <lionofgod> ?
[22:33] <_r00t_> mneptok: I'm trying to edit the files :/
[22:33] <ukbeast> lionofgod: It is auto logging in
[22:34] <_r00t_> vcodec on linux libx264
[22:34] <lionofgod> ?
[22:34] <acicula> HelpWubi001: can you run chkdsk /r on the disk that wubi is installed on?
[22:34] <ukbeast> one sec
[22:34] <aaas> what cpu temps are people running at?
[22:34] <lionofgod> i ahve it set to autolog
[22:34] <lionofgod> but
[22:34] <lionofgod> the desktop screen is not the usual one
[22:34] <_r00t_> HelpWubi001 ..... acicula 's chkdsk is a winner
[22:34] <ukbeast> is it lightdm?
[22:35] <ukbeast> or gdm?
[22:35] <lionofgod> no i set it to gdm
[22:35] <lionofgod> when iw as isntalling gnome
[22:35] <tbrown2012> Can someone help me?
[22:35] <lionofgod> its suppsoed to b lightdm?
[22:35] <acicula> HelpWubi001: short version if windows is not shutdown properly then wubi will not be able to start
[22:35] <lionofgod> how do i change
[22:35] <HelpWubi001> acicula: the drive is C: can't run it while windows is using it
[22:35] <FloodBot1> lionofgod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <lionofgod> How do i change from gdm to lightdm?
[22:35] <acicula> HelpWubi001: eh? what is the output of chkdsk?
[22:35] <ukbeast> One sec
[22:36] <civixier> Hi all. I am using lubuntu, but everyone in that channel is idle, so I am trying my luck here. When I suspend my computer at any screen brightness and start it up again the screen brightness goes up to 100%. Any ideas? (lubuntu, lxde, ux21e)
[22:36] <acicula> lionofgod: update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[22:36] <lionofgod> i type that in terminal?
[22:36] <acicula> tbrown2012: best to just ask a question
[22:36] <lionofgod> and select lighdm?
[22:37] <HelpWubi001> acicula: http://paste.ubuntu.com/933229/
[22:37] <acicula> lionofgod: think you need to specify some settings
[22:37] <lionofgod> k
[22:37] <acicula> HelpWubi001: choose yes, reboot, wait for it to finish checking, try booting wubi again
[22:37] <tbrown2012> acicula: Is there anyway that I can see were the drivers are located in ubuntu
[22:37] <ukbeast>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure light-dm
[22:37] <HelpWubi001> will do
[22:37] <lionofgod> k
[22:38] <acicula> tbrown2012: kernel modules/drivers are located under /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[22:38] <ukbeast> srry sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[22:38] <lionofgod> it says lightdm is not isntalled
[22:38] <_r00t_> civixier: !pm
[22:38] <lionofgod> k
[22:38] <lionofgod> that works
[22:38] <ukbeast> after just logout
[22:38] <lionofgod> gave me a warning
[22:38] <lionofgod> dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_NAME missing
[22:38] <lionofgod> dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing
[22:39] <acicula> tbrown2012: do you have a problem with a driver?
[22:39] <lionofgod> is that warning okay>
[22:39] <lionofgod> should i just logout?
[22:39] <civixier> _r00t_ > yep, even when I run pm-suspend instead of closing the lid.
[22:39] <ukbeast> ignore and see what happens
[22:39] <lionofgod> k
[22:40] <acicula> civixier: does lubunt have some kind of power-managment app in the settings menu? afaik in normal ubuntu you can mess with the brightness settings there
[22:40] <_r00t_> civixier: yes ... the scripts that run during restore are setting defaults
[22:40] <tbrown2012> acicula: I dont know am kind of wondering to my self because I got a notice on my computer and it said there were two drivers that need to be installed but last time when I installed them I got a nastey watermark before from AMD
[22:41] <civixier> acicula: yeah, Ive been in there, but nothing on the brightness subject.
[22:42] <ukbeast> I still use flash player 10.3 cause adobe removed the acceleration
[22:42] <civixier> _r00t_ ah, do you know where I can change the default settings for screen brightness in lxde?
[22:42] <acicula> tbrown2012: ah that notice is because some propriatary drivers do not get installed by default, which is why you have to activate them. They get installed in the same place as the normal ones. Though you dont necessarily need to install the propriatary amd drivers though you wont get much in the way of 3d acceleration then
[22:43] <ardian> Is it normal for a laptop to have temp 60 * for 1-2 seconds after I start a programm ?
[22:44] <ukbeast> ardian: turning on the pc after 2sec?
[22:44] <sentriz|netbook> anyone know how to remove the whole ubuntu chat mibbit thing, away busy under your name too
[22:44] <acicula> ardian: yup
[22:44] <sentriz|netbook> not mibbit
[22:44] <lionofgod> Thank you so much ukbeast, you helped me get my ubuntu back : D
[22:44] <sentriz|netbook> not mibbit
[22:44] <sentriz|netbook> gwibber
[22:44] <FloodBot1> sentriz|netbook: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <ukbeast> no worries ;)
[22:44] <tbrown2012> acicula: So I dont need to install or if I do how do I install them the right way
[22:44] <never2far> has anyone use byobu ?
[22:45] <never2far> *used
[22:45] <acicula> tbrown2012: just using the tool that ubuntu provides to install additional drivers should be enough
[22:45] <sentriz|netbook> anyone know how to remove the whole ubuntu communication thing, away busy under your name too
[22:45] <acicula> which is the same tool that gave you the notice about installing the drivers
[22:45] <tbrown2012> acicula: Were do I find the tool at?
[22:46] <Areckx> is there a terminal command to check the remaining hard disk space?
[22:46] <iluwka> какой порт в торе в ирц прописывать?
[22:46] <iluwka> 9050,,
[22:46] <sentriz|netbook> the online accounts thing
[22:46] <ukbeast> jockey
[22:46] <acicula> its called something drivers, its in either of the two administration menus
[22:46] <L3top> !ru
[22:46] <acicula> Areckx: df -h
[22:46] <Areckx> also, sometimes I have accidentally did ctrl+alt something and it would ask me "2000 will be displaced, y/n?" and it displays all of the available terminal commands, what is the keystroke?
[22:47] <Areckx> acicula::  thank you!
[22:47] <sentriz|netbook> how to get a list of installed packages?
[22:47] <acicula> sentriz|netbook: dpkg-query -l
[22:47] <ukbeast> synaptic
[22:47] <sentriz|netbook> thanks
[22:47] <Kanerix> dpkg -l will do it too
[22:48] <acicula> sentriz|netbook: dpkg(-query) in general for all your package information needs
[22:49] <ukbeast> I <3 rhythmbox over banshee
[22:49] <gr33n7007h> Areckx, tab tab
[22:50] <tbrown2012> aricula: Am in the Additional Drivers and I see the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX grapics Drivers and they want me to make it active but the thing is last time I deed it I got a watermark I know I said that but I deed not understand what you said last time sorry:(
[22:50] <MrJones> hello
[22:51] <ukbeast> are there any anime themes for ubuntu?
[22:51] <tbrown2012> MrJones: Hello
[22:51] <MrJones> is it intended that the last recent nginx update overwrites web contents with a stupid empty "Welcome to nginx!" html file?
[22:51] <MrJones> if not you shoul probably hold that update back and repair that :p
[22:51] <MrJones> *should
[22:52] <megamanx1978> I am having trouble installing desura can someone help
[22:53] <Areckx> gr33n7007h::  thanks!
[22:53] <MrJones> Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS btw
[22:55] <ukbeast> later my fellow penguins
[22:55] <acicula> tbrown2012: not sure what you mean by watermark, you do not strictly need to activate those drivers though, unless you intend to do things like gaming
[22:55] <_Marcus> Quack
[22:55] <_Marcus> That's what penguins do, right?
[22:56] <_Marcus> Anyway, is it possible to install Ubuntu without having GRUB on my system? I noticed it goes over Windows' boot loader
[22:57] <bobweaver> I have a question located here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZYgwJVmn2Y    thanks for your time
[22:57] <bobweaver> any pointer to links or anything would be helpful at this point
[23:00] <acicula> bobweaver: why not just ask your question here?
[23:01] <megamanx1978> desura wont install or update can someone please help
[23:01] <bobweaver> because it is long and hard to type out that much It would flood the place :)
[23:01] <acicula> _Marcus: you can opt to install grub on a separate usb stick, and then boot from that instead, but you will need grub or some bootloader capable of loading the linux kernel
[23:02] <tbrown2012> what is the command for root
[23:02] <_Marcus> So I need GRUB?
[23:02] <_Marcus> tbrown2012: To run a command as root, type "sudo " before the command
[23:02] <DrManhattan> Woohoo! I got it working
[23:02] <Arturas> Hi, I've got a new computer and I'm gonna be installing Ubuntu. Now can anyone suggest me if I should go for the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Beta2 or 11.10?
[23:02] <bobweaver> !root
[23:03] <DrManhattan> so now I just have to figure out how to make my easycap load up 4 video devices and i'm good to go
[23:03] <bobweaver> ArchNemesis,  12.04 HANDS DOWN
[23:03] <acicula> _Marcus: more or less yeah
[23:03] <_Marcus> Hm.. Is Wubi a virtual machine? Like VMWare?
[23:03] <DrManhattan> lol @ whoever put that into ubottu
[23:04] <acicula> _Marcus: no its not
[23:04] <tbrown2012> _Marcus: Sorry that not what am looking for make the  root:tbrown2012@HP:~$ or something like that
[23:04] <bobweaver> sorry ArchNemesis  thatwas for Arturas
[23:04] <_Marcus> tbrown2012: So you wish to log into root?
[23:04] <tbrown2012> _Marcus: Yes
[23:04] <bobweaver> Marcus wubi is like a .exe that instals onto the system not virtual at all
[23:04] <_Marcus> tbrown2012: Type "sudo su"
[23:05] <tbrown2012> _Marcus: I keep forgetting that sorry:)
[23:05] <bobweaver> !sudo su
[23:05] <acicula> _Marcus: all wubi does is instead of using a partition as a root file system it uses a file as its root filesystem.
[23:05] <bobweaver> Marcus plz tell users to use sudo -i for root as sudo su is more danger
[23:05] <_Marcus> acicula: So does it require GRUB still?
[23:06] <_Marcus> bobweaver: Sorry, didn't know
[23:06] <yeik> wubi uses windows boot manager, it doesn't use grub.
[23:06] <_Marcus> Great
[23:06] <bobweaver> _Marcus, No grub it is like a exe file like any other file that you install on a windows computer
[23:06] <Arturas> bobweaver, but why is 12.04 a beta then? Sounds kind of scary...
[23:06] <tbrown2012> what will sudo apt-get -dist upgrade do again
[23:06] <yeik> bobweaver,  isn't sudo -s better?
[23:06] <tbrown2012> or deed it do that wrong
[23:07] <yeik> tbrown2012, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades to the next distribution release.
[23:07] <clausen>  bobweaver what is dangerous about sudo and su?
[23:07] <DrManhattan> ugh weak - I can only use 1 input at a time
[23:07] <bobweaver> Arturas, I have been using 12.04 for about 6 months now and had to go back to 11.10 real quick last night and was like Wow there is such a differennce
[23:07] <DrManhattan> well, for 20 bucks a piece I guess I can just order 3 more
[23:07] <Arturas> Is 12.04 stable enough?
[23:08] <Arturas> Well I mean does it feel stable enough?
[23:08] <yeik> clausen, su changes user, sudo will time out. if you forget to log off the terminal, it is very dangerous and it is a much safer practice
[23:09] <tbrown2012> how to install package that deed not install all the way or something
[23:10] <yeik> tbrown2012, i believe it is sudo apt-get install -f
[23:10] <clausen> yeik, but most users don't only care about attacks over the network?
[23:10] <yeik> you might have to do dpkg configure -a
[23:10] <acicula> Arturas: if you are familiar with ubuntu i suppose its fine if you are willing to experiment a bit.
[23:10] <Areckx> ok, so how do I check my OS version?
[23:10] <Areckx> in terminal
[23:11] <acicula> Arturas: lsb_release -a
[23:11] <clausen> yeik, (s/don't//)
[23:11] <acicula> err meant Areckx
[23:11] <sissy_wangus> hi everybody
[23:11] <birthmother> urbuttoo lol
[23:11] <sissy_wangus> ^^^
[23:11] <DrSerbia> buttes
[23:11] <Areckx> acicula::  thought so hehe
[23:11] <Meepsheep>    penises
[23:11] <Areckx> acicula::  thanks
[23:11] <Areckx> 10.04.4
[23:12] <yeik> clausen, imagine running a command as root that you forgot was actually in a root terminal. deleting a wrong file or directory. or most often, attacks that want your data are local. its much easier to get access physically.
[23:12] <tbrown2012> Will I got all of my updates Know am going to install xfce know better I think I dont like the apps in the left side
[23:12] <yeik> also, the possibility of hijacking your session.
[23:12] <Tasmania> Is Ubuntu GUI based?
[23:12] <clausen> yeik, most people have a separate window for root commands?
[23:12] <birthmother> jacking your ses
[23:12] <sissy_wangus> hi tasmania
[23:13] <clausen> yeik, and if someone hijacks your session, you are screwed anyway?
[23:13] <lionofgod> Hello, I am able to wtach youtube videos but cannot watch anyother videos
[23:13] <Meepsheep> tasmania sup!
[23:13] <lionofgod> I think it may be because I am using html5 for youtube
[23:13] <yeik> clausen, if your not root, they don't necessarily have your password. and everybody is different. it is just much safer. You don't have to lock your front door on your house
[23:13] <clausen> yeik, if someone gets unprivileged access, they can just alias "sudo" to something that logs keystrokes
[23:13] <acicula> Tasmania: yes
[23:13] <lionofgod> I jsut reinsalled chromium
[23:13] <yeik> clausen, but it is much safer to keep it locked at all times.
[23:13] <Tasmania> aye.
[23:14] <vexaxv> how do i change the default python version on ubuntu? i just installed python 3.2.3 from source but it still says 2.7.2 is default
[23:14] <clausen> yeik, I don't see how it's any safer... in fact, I would think it's safer to abolish passwords, and have a root window (that can only be access locally)
[23:14] <acicula> clausen: thats how it works now
[23:15] <clausen> (i.e. abolish passwords for priviledge elevation)
[23:15] <zenmaster> So uh, on Vsftpd, I have local users enabled, and write enabled. But when I login with local user, I can't upload? Permision denied even to my own home dir.... :*(
[23:15] <lionofgod> I cant watch videos online, can someone help me?
[23:15] <lionofgod> I jsut reinstalled chromium
[23:15] <clausen> acicula, I still have to type passwords for privilege elevation...
[23:15] <lionofgod> but on firefox and chrome videos are not working
[23:15] <clausen> (even with policykit)
[23:15] <acicula> clausen: you have to type your own password yes
[23:15] <yeik> clausen, passwords aren't safe. they are a deterrent. nothing is secure. only make it harder to get to. What if i don't have physical access to my machine? ie a virtual machine loaded in a cloud in amazon?
[23:15] <ardian> acicula, I have that problem with the temp also if I open any site like in twitter when I look at the pics, it goes for 1-2 seconds and then it comes back to 54* so that is normal
[23:16] <acicula> clausen: though you can disable that in the sudoers file fairly easily so you can use sudo from your user without typing a password
[23:16] <yeik> also, multi user system, no root password is safer because if someone leaves you can remove them from sudo, instead of changing root password for any computers that used it.
[23:16] <clausen> acicula, can you insist on local sudo only?
[23:16] <clausen> (on the terminal)
[23:16] <clausen> (i.e. on the physical keybaord, etc.)
[23:17] <acicula> clausen: what i use is : my server has no passwords set, i can ssh in using keybased authentication as my user and use sudo
[23:17] <clausen> yeik, remote access isn't such a common use case.  in any case, ssh public key is a better solution than passwords
[23:17] <yeik> clausen, common use for who?
[23:17] <clausen> yeik, for random people on #ubuntu you might recommend sudo to
[23:18] <clausen> acicula, me too
[23:18] <yeik> clausen, I remote into my server all the time. infact i have a constant connection up. rarely am i physically at it.
[23:18] <yeik> clausen, you asked why sudo is better than su
[23:18] <Areckx> I am still unable to run java
[23:18] <Areckx> oh nvm
[23:18] <clausen> yeik, actually, I think both su and sudo are a disaster... it would make more sense to authenticate with keys somehow
[23:19] <yeik> and then you asked why not disable root except for physically.
[23:19] <clausen> (for remote access, I mean)
[23:19] <acicula> clausen: those two are not related?
[23:19] <clausen> is it possible to disable root, except for physically?
[23:19] <yeik> clausen, once you have an ssh connection, which you can set up to only allow keys, then its no different than being at the computer.
[23:20] <acicula> i think the reason for using sudo over su is just to prevent people from running a shell as root all the time, thereby circumventing any protections the system might have
[23:21] <yeik> acicula, that is what i was stating earlier, it has a time out. and also people can be removed from it (users/admins) without requiring a root password change
[23:21] <lionofgod> Hello. I accidentally almsot formatted my ubuntu, I finally have it running again but I cannot get videos to work
[23:21] <fnordism>   /join #hamradio
[23:21] <lionofgod> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, I even tried reinstalling flash
[23:21] <yeik> clausen, ubuntu is an operating system, it is going to be set up to be used the most securly and conviently for standard uses and users.
[23:21] <lionofgod> please can someone help me to get videos to work
[23:22] <yeik> lionofgod, what kind of videos?
[23:22] <lionofgod> I can view youtube videos, i think its cuz im on html5 trial
[23:22] <lionofgod> but videos on sites like animeseason
[23:22] <think> ui23
[23:22] <clausen> yeik, acicula, so you don't know any way to discriminate against non-local logins?
[23:22] <lionofgod> http://www.animeseason.com/naruto-shippuuden-episode-48/
[23:22] <clausen> (isn't there something like /etc/securetty?)
[23:22] <lionofgod> those dont work
[23:22] <lionofgod> I think those are flash
[23:23] <vexaxv> how do u uninstall something uve installed by source (its not in synpatic or the software center)
[23:23] <yeik> clausen, im not an expert, but i don't think it works like that. I can create a shell session locally, walk away and reattach. the user was logged in locally. how can i tell if it is remote or not?
[23:23] <acicula> clausen: yes you can disable gaining root priviledges from a remote terminal, but why would you want that
[23:23] <yeik> lionofgod, can you go to adobe flash about page and see if it tells you what version you have installed?
[23:24] <Diamondcite> lionofgod: They are flash, which browser?
[23:24] <Diamondcite> lionofgod: And if it's firefox, did you close all windows and re-open firefox since flash was installed?
[23:24] <clausen> yeik, you're thinking of screen or tmux?
[23:25] <clausen> yeik, if you're running screen/tmux as root, you'd need to be root to reattach?
[23:25] <yeik> clausen, i can run screen as myself, and su inside screen. or sudo. you are trying to complicate things too much.
[23:25] <Diamondcite> clausen: You will need the user which launched the screen session to re-attach to it.
[23:25] <clausen> acicula, it might make priviledge elevation attacks harder
[23:26] <clausen> acicula, I'm more worried about people aliasing sudo=keylogger
[23:26] <lionofgod> Im getting this message
[23:26] <yeik> clausen, are you really worried about elevation attacks?
[23:26] <lionofgod> http://pastebin.com/uz6tPNHd
[23:26] <lionofgod> and this is chromium
[23:26] <lionofgod> im looking at the technote thing
[23:26] <clausen> yeik, I would be forbidding running screen "as myself", and then su'ing from that
[23:27] <clausen> yeik, yes, I really am :)
[23:27] <yeik> clausen, then ubuntu isn't for you. you should build your own linux.
[23:27] <meganerd> clausen: yeik You can use sudo, you don't need to actually be root to attach to a screen session owned by root
[23:27] <clausen> yeik, that's a bit fast!
[23:27] <clausen> yeik, ubuntu is very configurable
[23:27] <yeik> meganerd, i was trying to explain to clausen that you can't block root/sudo access remotely
[23:27] <clausen> yeik, apt-get remove sudo; echo /dev/tty0 >> /etc/securetty ?
[23:28] <HelenB> Is anyone in #kubuntu who can help me with my sound?
[23:28] <meganerd> yeik: sure you can
[23:28] <meganerd> yeik: disable sudo and prevent ssh from accepting root
[23:28] <yeik> meganerd, please explain, then how if i have a shell session, it recognizes if i attach remotely or if i am physically at the keyboard.
[23:28] <HelenB> well the last time my sound was working was when I plugged my headphones into a different audio socket
[23:28] <HelenB> unplugging them from that socket
[23:29] <HelenB> messed up my sound
[23:29] <meganerd> yeik: you could go one further and have PAM prevent root as well.
[23:29] <HelenB> I tried the troubleshooting guide
[23:29] <HelenB> didn't work
[23:29] <Areckx> I would like to use an Japanese input method that is at least as good as Microsoft IME
[23:29] <HelenB> I also checked alsamixer
[23:29] <Diamondcite> lionofgod: Which version of ubuntu is this?
[23:29] <meganerd> yeik: Oh I see the difference
[23:29] <HelenB> everything is on full.
[23:29] <lionofgod> 11.10
[23:29] <meganerd> yeik: disabling remote access is what I was thinking
[23:29] <lionofgod> I jsut enabled flash plugin on about:plugins
[23:29] <HelenB> I'm using Kubuntu 11.10
[23:29] <lionofgod> I am going to restart chrome
[23:29] <clausen> yeik, if you have root, you can always make a poorman's telnetd
[23:29] <yeik> meganerd, you could remove root altogether, there are lots of things you can do. rename sudo to your own command.
[23:30] <clausen> yeik, (which is sort of what tmux/screen do)
[23:30] <meganerd> yeik: though you could look at the output of who and disconnect based on that
[23:30] <clausen> yeik, but if you don't use tmux/screen, then you don't open any such hole
[23:30] <yeik> meganerd, yeah.
[23:30] <meganerd> clausen: but screen is just so awesome
[23:30] <meganerd> gotta run, cheers
[23:30] <clausen> tmux is better!
[23:30] <clausen> anyway, gotta go too
[23:30] <yeik> clausen, im saying you are trying to lock things down too much, if you really want to limit access in such a way, then you already know far more than most people that are going to be here, and about as much as anybody that can help you here.
[23:30] <clausen> bye!
[23:31] <HelenB> clausen?
[23:31] <HelenB> screen doesn't open any holes. lol
[23:31]  * yeik boggles  his mind
[23:31]  * HelenB boggles yeik 
[23:31] <yeik> is it always this insane in here?
[23:31] <meganerd> I really did join that late
[23:31] <yeik> meganerd, yeah
[23:31] <meganerd> sorry about feeding the troll
[23:31] <yeik> he first asked the difference and why sudo is better than su
[23:31] <acicula> no usually the #paranoia is restricted to ##security
[23:32] <phillijw> tmux
[23:32] <clausen> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to troll
[23:32] <yeik> so i explained that it timed out.
[23:32] <acicula> tmux > screen
[23:32] <lionofgod> Okay, I have enabled shockwave flash in plugins for chrome but flash player still does not work
[23:32] <clausen> I do appreciate you explaining things to me
[23:32] <clausen> anyway
[23:32] <clausen> bye!
[23:32] <yeik> bye
[23:32] <HelenB> I WANT SOUND!
[23:32] <yeik> meganerd, its ok.
[23:33] <lionofgod> can someone please tell me?
[23:33] <zenmaster> How come in my own users directory, I am having permission issues uploading files via ftp. I am using Vsftpd.
[23:33] <lionofgod> I enabled flash yet it is still not working
[23:33] <yeik> lionofgod, did you go to adobes about page?
[23:33] <lionofgod> Yes
[23:34] <zenmaster> Its like it can only upload one folder deep then after that its jacked.
[23:34] <lionofgod> it tells me that my flash is disabled adn tells me to visit about:plugins
[23:34] <acicula> zenmaster: could be just because the vsftp daemon is running as a different system user
[23:34] <yeik> lionofgod, and does it still tell you that?
[23:34] <lionofgod> I went there and enabled flash
[23:34] <lionofgod> yes it still tells me that
[23:34] <roasted> Question - I have Ubuntu running with DHCP with 2 NICs... but one NIC does not hand out addresses while the other does... any ideas?
[23:34] <yeik> lionofgod, did you close all chrome windows?
[23:34] <lionofgod> Yes
[23:34] <zenmaster> acicula: How do I change that?
[23:34] <lionofgod> should I restart>
[23:34] <lionofgod> ?
[23:34] <yeik> roasted, DHCP server?
[23:34] <yeik> lionofgod, its always a good idea
[23:34] <lionofgod> okay
[23:34] <roasted> yeik, yes.
[23:35] <roasted> yeik, Ubuntu desktop edition, with dhcp installed.
[23:35] <zenmaster> I see root and nobody.
[23:35] <acicula> zenmaster: idunno, not familiar with vsftp, but it sounds like you are having permission issues. Did you check if there is a wikipage on the ubuntu community wiki on how to get started setting it up?
[23:35] <lionofgod> I have the option to enable other plugins such as vlc should i enable them as well?
[23:35] <yeik> roasted,  well, everybody has dhcp, but dhcp server...
[23:35] <mossy_> hey
[23:35] <zenmaster> acicula: Someof those resources.
[23:35] <roasted> yeik, yes dhcp server
[23:35] <yeik> roasted, iirc you might have to configure the DHCP server with  the mac address to broadcast on.
[23:36] <roasted> yeik, do you know where, by chance?
[23:36] <roasted> yeik, best I know of is /etc/default/dhcp3-server where I have to put in eth0 and eth1 for dhcp service.
[23:36] <yeik> roasted, i use my ddwrt router for dhcp. i haven't tried setting it up in ubuntu
[23:36] <Areckx> so.,... hibernate in 10.04
[23:37] <wylde> !dhcp | roasted
[23:37] <Areckx> the option isn't even in the menu
[23:37] <roasted> wylde, :(
[23:37] <yeik> roasted, http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch08_:_Configuring_the_DHCP_Server
[23:37] <violinappren> roasted: if you're looking for a lightweight and easy configurable DHCP/DNS server try dnsmasq
[23:37] <roasted> violinappren, I'm not. I'm just trying to find out why one NIC works and the other does not.
[23:38] <Areckx> !pm-hibernate | Areckx
[23:38] <wylde> roasted: heh, I do run a minimal dhcp server but that's only because I also have an ltsp server on my network.
[23:38] <roasted> wylde, that's what I'm working on... an LTSP server.
[23:38] <Areckx> !hibernate | Areckx
[23:38] <roasted> wylde, two NICs, one NIC per lab (two labs)
[23:38] <roasted> wylde, one gets DHCP, other does not. Even if I plug my laptopdirectly into the NIC, no DHCP...
[23:38] <roasted> wylde, definitely not a switch problem...
[23:39] <violinappren> roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/dhcp.html
[23:39] <wylde> roasted: I'm running with a single nic, the server is nothing more than a backup server for my home network, an ltsp server for my garage equipment and failover for the rest of my pc's.
[23:40] <yeik> wylde, can you post your config?
[23:40] <roasted> violinappren, unavailble.
[23:40] <yeik> wylde, im guessing you didn't put both ip addresses for both nics in your configuration
[23:40] <wylde> roasted: I suspect you will have to some specific configuration using 2 nic's.
[23:40] <roasted> nevermind
[23:40] <roasted> ot it
[23:40] <yeik> err, i meant roasted.
[23:41] <wylde> no worries.
[23:41] <roasted> yeik, I have 2 NICs, 10.52.18.2 and 10.52.17.2... then in the dhcp config, I have 2 scopes, one for 17.5-17.254 and 18.5-18.254
[23:41] <roasted> yeik, I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
[23:42] <roasted> yeik, the config is identical, except 17 vs 18
[23:42] <wylde> roasted: altho... moment I did find some lnks with 2 nic setup while seeting my ltsp server up.
[23:42] <violinappren> roasted: this page has a multiple interface example https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[23:42] <yeik> roasted, use pastebin to post your config.
[23:42] <wylde> roasted: ^^ beat me to it! danged beer!
[23:44] <yeik> if he is configuring the same subnet, it might take one of the configs over the other, i think he needs both ip addresses in the domain-name-servers option
[23:45] <roasted> yeik, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/933293/
[23:47] <roasted> hm
[23:47] <roasted> I see a problem
[23:47] <roasted> I think
[23:47] <wylde> roasted you have "next-server" uncommented
[23:48] <wylde> roasted: in lab 605
[23:48] <roasted> wylde, right
[23:48] <roasted> I just commented it
[23:48] <roasted> and the line below
[23:48] <roasted> no difference
[23:48] <sepoki> is there any channel for PRINCE XML or something like that ?
[23:49] <wylde> roasted:  ahh ok, was hoping for a quick fix hehe.
[23:49] <roasted> same here wylde :(
[23:51] <roasted> wylde, actually that may have worked
[23:51] <roasted> I gotta jet. I had to restart the network interfaces (before I just did dhcp but that alone didnt fix it)
[23:51] <roasted> wylde, thanks!
[23:51] <wylde> roasted:  hmmm .. moment. Are you using something other than dhcp3... errr nvm I'm going to look at my configs, /etc/dhcp3.conf is over ridden by /etc/ltp/somethingorother..... iirc.
[23:51] <wylde> brb goota check my pizza!
[23:52] <wylde> roasted:  oh?!
[23:53] <yeik> roasted, if that doesn't work check, where it has host  blah3{} https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[23:56] <ProfessorBacon> damn unity locks up a whole lot
[23:57] <JonMarkGo> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit server edition and when I run sudo apt-get update I get a bunch of "Failed to fetch bzip2...hash sum mismatch" errors
[23:57] <rhin0> how do I launch bash and get ssh and also issue a command (I forgot)
[23:57] <Boohbah> JonMarkGo: try a different mirror
[23:59] <MrUnagi> i love screen
[23:59]  * yeik loves screen too