[00:00] <HelenB> Daskreech, Sound wasn't working
[00:00] <HelenB> But there were literally no traces of problems
[00:00] <HelenB> and I mean no trace
[00:29] <Daskreech> HelenB: How did you solve it?
[00:36] <Daskreech> HelenB: Or what wsa the solution
[00:37] <Daskreech> giantpune: Yes there is what are you trying to do?
[00:39] <cryptodira> currently on ubuntu 10.10 amd/64 and NOT wanting the gnome3 fiasco, hence I would like to know if moving to kubuntu will have the same gnome3 issues and restrictions.... anyone?
[00:42] <HelenB> Daskreech, I solved it by muting the front controls and then unmuting.
[00:43] <Daskreech> HelenB: Ah right I remember doing that :)
[00:44] <Daskreech> cryptodira: what are the gnome restrictions?
[00:47] <cryptodira> Daskreech, i am seeing with the gnome3 interface a loss flexibility and features, ie: top and bottom bar functionality.
[00:58] <giantpune> Daskreech, im writing a program and i want to be able to recognize a specific hard drive and treat each one differently.  but i want to use something which wont be changed by formatting and creating partitions and deleting partitions and stuff like that
[01:44] <Daskreech> cryptodira: Sorry stepped away Let me answer you quickly :)
[01:44] <cryptodira> Daskreech, np.... standing by.
[01:45] <Daskreech>  Gnome 3 is at times polar opposite of KDE and in this case that happens to be true. KDE is remarkably flexible so much so that people have recreated Mac OSX interfaces Windows machines that fool people who use Windows all the time. THey have recreated Gnome3 and Unity so as it stands if there is something in Gnome 3 that you like you can rebuild it in KDE if you choose.
[01:48] <cryptodira> Daskreech,  i have just recently moved from OS/2 warp4... and am using ubuntu 10.10 which is no longer supported....i 'think' i would like to move to kubuntu and need to know if i have to upgrade to the current ubuntu version PRIOR to doing this: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ..... ??
[05:28] <Devenox> hey there, can anyone help?
[05:28] <bazhang> with?
[05:28] <Devenox> I did an upgrade last week, that stuffed my KWin
[05:28] <Devenox> thru Apper
[05:29] <bazhang> Devenox, to what version of kubuntu
[05:29] <Devenox> now my desktop effects don't work, can barely use this OS
[05:29] <Devenox> 11.10
[05:29] <Devenox> I have an 8800GTS gfx card, running generic nvidia drivers
[05:31] <Devenox> as you log in, the last of the 5 elements to load (Kwin/Plasma) takes ages, and doesn't load right
[05:32] <Daskreech> What do you mean doesn't load right?
[05:33] <Devenox> the loading screen stays there as it tries to load the kde, for example my panels load with nothing there..
[05:33] <Devenox> and you have to move or click the mouse for KDE to kick in and display my background and panel widgets etc..
[05:34] <Devenox> simple stuff like the "taskbar" and icons for LAN and volume etc..
[05:34] <Devenox> I think everything is currently running on my CPU?
[05:38] <Daskreech> Devenox: So.. it stalls when coming to the desktop ?
[05:38] <Devenox> kinda, but then I can use it at it's basics
[05:38] <Devenox> like here in konsole
[05:38] <Devenox> can run firefox and search for fixes
[05:38] <Devenox> but there's nothing about this problem really
[05:39] <Devenox> "KWin window manager": Desktop effects were too slow and were suspended
[05:45] <Nagatto190x> bonjour a tous
[05:45] <Daskreech> !fr
[05:45] <Nagatto190x> y'a t(il quelqu'un
[05:46] <Daskreech> Devenox: So the desktop doesn't really load?
[05:51] <Devenox> yes, it does. I've just managed to get the "Additional Drivers" package working, and find the "post-release updates". The updates disabled my gfx drivers it seems
[05:51] <Devenox> I'm about to restart and test.
[06:09] <Devenox> hmmmm
[06:09] <Devenox> does anyone know of anyone else having issues with recent updates disabled/messing with gfx drivers?
[06:12] <Daskreech> Yes I heard of someone with nvidia drivers having issues
[06:12] <Devenox> yeah, my mate who helped me onto linux says that my hardware drivers weren't working
[06:13] <Devenox> because we found a generic driver thru muon
[06:13] <Devenox> I just did the update, and it's has made things worse
[06:17] <Daskreech> Devenox: Ha ha ok what driver are you using now?
[06:19] <Devenox> NIVIDA accerlerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 173-updates)
[06:24] <Daskreech> Devenox: how was that installed?
[06:25] <Devenox> using the "Additional drivers" package
[06:25] <Devenox> Alt + F2: "Additi.."
[06:25] <Devenox> the recommended driver isn't working
[06:25] <Devenox> I just restarted then
[06:30] <Daskreech> Devenox: Ok It should remake your /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf then
[06:31] <Devenox> /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[06:31] <Devenox> heh
[06:40] <Daskreech> Devenox: Might not be bad thing
[06:41] <Devenox> at least the work on the win-partition lol
[06:42] <Daskreech> :-)
[06:42] <Daskreech> They should work here as well I don't know why it affecting your desktop loading
[06:42] <Daskreech> You think that it's a kwin inssue?
[06:42] <Daskreech> Issue?
[06:57] <Daskreech> You can replace kwin and see if it still reacts the same way
[07:15] <HelenB> Daskreech, :3
[07:15] <HelenB> Daskreech, You're seeing a refreshed version of me!
[07:15] <HelenB> I just got up. :D
[07:28] <Daskreech> HelenB: welcome
[07:28] <Daskreech> HelenB: gald to ssee you as a nice refresh :)
[07:29] <HelenB> THank you! :3
[07:36] <Daskreech> HelenB: You are welcome :)
[07:37] <Daskreech> you can try something like fluxbox to see if it's a kwin issue Devenox
[07:38] <HelenB> Daskreech, Surely they'll be a workaround in KDE if it has an issue with something.
[07:38] <HelenB> I've always found workarounds. :D
[07:38] <HelenB> Hey hey hey hey
[07:39] <HelenB> He wont have Kubuntu anymore
[07:39] <HelenB> He'll have Fubuntu!
[07:39] <HelenB> lol Fubuntu
[07:39] <HelenB> Did you see what I did there? :D
[07:40] <Daskreech> Ha ha
[07:40] <HelenB> They should be a Gubuntu
[07:40] <Daskreech> flubuntu actually
[07:40] <Daskreech> there is
[07:40] <Daskreech> Gnubuntu
[07:41] <HelenB> ?
[07:41] <HelenB> Does it have gnome?
[07:41] <Daskreech> Yes
[07:41] <HelenB> It's just...
[07:41] <HelenB> a lot of people hate Unity
[07:41] <Daskreech> It was renamed to #gwensense
[07:41] <HelenB> but now even Gnome is getting to be a hog
[07:41] <HelenB> so I switched to Kubuntu
[07:41] <HelenB> :D
[07:41] <Daskreech> Wait
[07:42] <Daskreech> thats #gnewsense :)
[07:42] <Daskreech> HelenB: Welcome to KDE and Kubuntu
[07:42] <HelenB> thankies!
[07:42] <HelenB> also...
[07:42] <HelenB> nvm
[07:42] <Daskreech> Ah
[07:42] <Daskreech> I want to m
[07:43] <HelenB> I think it's stupid that they renamed it.
[07:43] <HelenB> I mean...
[07:43] <HelenB> Gubuntu is cool
[07:43] <HelenB> it goes with the rest of the family!
[07:43] <Daskreech> Yep but they wanted to focus more on the freedom
[07:43] <HelenB> Gubuntu isn't even biological to the family anymore!
[07:43] <Daskreech> It's a fully Free Distro
[07:43] <HelenB> oh
[07:44] <HelenB> I guess someone else should make a Gubuntu
[07:44] <HelenB> :3
[07:44] <Daskreech> That means a lot of stuff doesn't work :)
[07:44] <Daskreech> SOmeone should
[07:44] <Daskreech> Though they cynical would just call that Debian
[07:44] <HelenB> ya that always happens when you completely remove Unity/gnome from Ubuntu
[07:44] <HelenB> and put something on like
[07:44] <HelenB> lets say
[07:44] <HelenB> dwm
[07:44] <HelenB> you'll find your sound doesn't work anymore
[07:45] <HelenB> you'll struggle to find things like the network manager
[07:45] <HelenB> so basicly
[07:45] <HelenB> you need to rebuild everything
[07:45] <HelenB> to fix the problems
[07:45] <HelenB> even I tried it to Ubuntu
[07:45] <HelenB> and I got issues
[07:45] <HelenB> lol
[07:45] <Daskreech> Yep part of the desktop depends
[07:46] <Daskreech> and why people just go with default installs
[07:46] <HelenB> It's good that things like Ubuntu for Unity, Kubuntu for KDE, Flubuntu for fluxbox exist
[07:47] <HelenB> because then people can just use there favourite DE, etc without problems.
[07:47] <HelenB> lol theres even edubuntu
[07:47] <HelenB> does that have something to do with the Kubuntu educational desktop?
[07:48] <Daskreech> Yes it does ;)
[07:48] <HelenB> :o
[07:48] <HelenB> so basicly it's Kubuntu but for schools?
[07:48] <HelenB> and kids at home?
[07:50] <HelenB> Daskreech, I'm going to be getting a test bench and a powerful mainboard
[07:50] <HelenB> I'm going to use the test bench for easy access
[07:50] <HelenB> to the mainboard when needed
[07:50] <Daskreech> Not really though you could you do that pretty easy
[07:50] <Daskreech>  !info edubuntu-desktop-kde
[07:50] <HelenB> I'm sick of fitting mainboards in a case.
[07:50] <HelenB> it's a real pain. lol
[07:50] <Daskreech> That should work for you
[07:51] <HelenB> Daskreech, Yes I know about that
[07:51] <HelenB> but I don't want it lol
[07:51] <Daskreech> Ok :)
[07:51] <HelenB> unless I'm an uneducated baby
[07:52] <Daskreech> :) or a parent
[07:53] <Daskreech> you are building computers?
[07:53] <HelenB> hmm
[07:53] <HelenB> yes
[07:53] <HelenB> 32GB RAM
[07:53] <FloodBotK1> HelenB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <HelenB> FloodBotK1, Excuse me? I beg your pardon?
[07:54]  * HelenB puts middle finger up at FloodBotK1 
[07:55] <Daskreech> For ... yourself? How are you sick of fitting boards in ?
[07:55] <HelenB> Daskreech, I do it all the time.
[07:55] <HelenB> and it's quite annoying.
[07:56] <HelenB> anyway...
[07:56] <HelenB> I'm going to set off to college now.
[07:56] <HelenB> See you soon! :3
[07:57]  * HelenB cuddles Daskreech and gives FloodBotK1 a dirty look over Daskreech's shoulder
[08:00] <Daskreech> Ha ha :)
[08:01] <Daskreech> :-p FloodBotK1
[08:01]  * Daskreech huggles HelenB 
[08:06] <rainbow33> i tried to run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade to install 12.04, but nothing happens. Is there something else to do?
[08:09] <Daskreech> rainbow33: can you try sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[08:10] <Riddell> Daskreech: pst, cat /usr/bin/kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[08:11] <rainbow33> Daskreech: when i run it in Konsole, i get "No new release found"
[08:15] <rainbow33> Daskreech: my thought was to do a clean install of the 12.04 from the latest disk, and keep what is on the home partition, but i dont know why muon and konsole cant find 12.o4.
[08:22] <Daskreech> rainbow33: :-) can you cat /etc/lsb-release ?
[08:23] <rainbow33> oneirc comes up
[08:24] <rainbow33> Daskreech: oneiric comes up
[08:25] <Daskreech> rainbow33: do you have a kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[08:29] <rainbow33> Daskreech: i am looking to torrent the iso
[08:29] <rainbow33> Daskreech:    is there a url that you recommend?
[08:29] <Daskreech> rainbow33: alright you have a home partition ?
[08:29] <rainbow33> Daskreech: yes
[08:30] <Daskreech> alright if it's any consolation that's the faster route
[08:30] <rainbow33> Daskreech: np, i am enjoying learning all this.
[08:31] <Daskreech> rainbow33: :-) Ok well ask any questions you like
[08:32] <rainbow33> Daskreech: thank you
[08:35] <rainbow33> Daskreech: i did have a question about an acer laptop with the intel gma chipset that was giving my room mate a hard time with no backlight after the grub menu. a simple workaround is to tap the fn+brightness key down once or more. it locks the screen into whatever setting once booted, but it is better than no backlight. is that important info, and if how should i report it?
[08:36] <Daskreech> rainbow33: what kernel?
[08:38] <rainbow33> Daskreech: any kernel after 2.6.~30. kubuntu 10.04 the backlight doesnt go out on boot, but the brighntess keys are non-functional. from 10.11, the backlight fails after the grub2 menu.
[08:40] <Daskreech> Hmm may be a kerel option passed by grub2
[08:41] <Daskreech> rainbow33: grep lts /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[08:43] <Daskreech> Kernel option Noacpi may help
[08:47] <rainbow33> it is bug Bug #740893 for the gma chipset.
[08:49] <rainbow33> Daskreech: #  lts    - Check to see if a new LTS release is available.  The upgrader prompt=lts
[08:51] <Daskreech> rainbow33: you'll want to change that :)
[08:52] <Daskreech> prompt=normal
[08:52] <Daskreech> rainbow33: http://www.markuswalther.com/tech/backlight.html is familiar to you ?
[08:55] <rainbow33> Daskreech: i saw the website, but skipped it because it sounded like he was talking about tuxracer.
[08:56] <rainbow33> Daskreech: i should have taken a closer look, it would have saved me a few hours. :)
[08:57] <Daskreech> rainbow33: :)
[09:05] <rainbow33> Daskreech:  in  muon - software sources - updates, it only gives the option for long term releases, normal releases or never. how do i change it to get 12.04?
[09:05] <Daskreech> Change it to normal
[09:09] <rainbow33> Daskreech:  i have the setting on normal in muon but i get lts from the cli.
[09:10] <Daskreech> rainbow33: hmm ok sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change to prompt=normal
[09:25] <rainbow33> Daskreech: erm, i am unfamiliar with this re: nano change prompt interface. i have changed it to prompt=normal. is there a save function?
[09:26] <Daskreech> rainbow33: press ctrl+x
[09:26] <Daskreech> on the bottom of the screen there are instructions
[09:26] <Daskreech>  ^ means Ctrl+
[09:26] <Daskreech> so ^y means Ctrl+y
[09:29] <rainbow33> Daskreech: no wonder. i thought ^was for alt, and nothing was happening. what is the symbol for alt?
[09:31] <rainbow33> Daskreech:  nvrmnd, i wikied it.
[09:33] <rainbow33> Daskreech:  thanx. that did the trick. the upgrade is going on in konsole.
[09:45] <Daskreech> rainbow33: :)
[09:45] <Daskreech> Ok
[09:45] <Daskreech> rainbow33: That's goig to take along time so I'm going out for a while
[09:48] <rainbow33> Daskreech: its very late here. heading off to sleep. have a good night. thank you for your help.
[09:49] <rainbow33> Daskreech: bb tomorrow
[11:06] <AlfE_> hello
[11:06] <AlfE_> how can i change the mount options of device notifier
[11:06] <AlfE_> owner, group etc
[11:30] <viKtor__> hey guys is there any way to make kontact inform you by notifications if i have new rss, notes, events and emails without having to open it each time?
[11:31] <Tm_T> viKtor__: yes, it has systray icon and you should be able to control its notifications
[12:45] <BluesKaj> hey all
[13:04] <madurax86> whenever i change resolutions the text gets smaller with smaler resolutions and when i go to higher resolutions the font is still small, how to fix?
[13:08] <madurax86> fixed! :D forced DPI
[13:10] <angelforget> sera atutti
[14:27] <linux4u> hey guys, I upgraded to 11.10 and know my widgets are not clickable.  well all the ones from before the upgrade are, and the only new one I added that worked was I added a default panel back.
[14:27] <linux4u> I also cant get the hover menu to come up that allows you to move and resize them to come up.
[14:28] <POQDavid> hi
[14:29] <linux4u> I deleted and added a plasmoid back for the task list, and it correctly shows me the list, I just cant move it, I can remove it, and change settings, but not move it.
[14:29] <linux4u> any suggestions?
[14:29] <linux4u> and hi POQDavid
[14:29] <POQDavid> i want to make a partition for the /home what type i make it
[14:29] <linux4u> ext3 or ext4
[14:29] <POQDavid> can i make it FAT32?
[14:29] <linux4u> why?
[14:29] <POQDavid> so i can read it on other OS
[14:30] <POQDavid> like win
[14:30] <mr-rich> linux4u: It has been my experience that more than one reboot is required after an upgrade ...
[14:30] <linux4u> I did reboot. mr-rich
[14:30] <viKtor__> hey guys, i hide an hdd from the panel of dolphin and now i don't know how to restore it :S can you help me?
[14:30] <linux4u> and the long file name in linux would not like fat32 I think, but I remember an distro that did reside on fat32 it was not kubuntu.
[14:31] <mr-rich> linux4u: reboot again ...
[14:31] <linux4u> several times.
[14:31] <viKtor__> not an hdd but a partition :S
[14:31] <tsimpson> windows can read/write ext3, you just need to install the driver from: http://www.fs-driver.org
[14:31] <POQDavid> kk so ext3 is better or ext4?
[14:31] <linux4u> mr-rich, is there a log file or something?
[14:31] <linux4u> ttyl
[14:32] <POQDavid> tsimpson: what about ext4?
[14:32] <mr-rich> linux4u: in all logs are in /var/log ...
[14:32] <lrpcuba> hello everyone in here
[14:33] <POQDavid> hi
[14:33] <viKtor__> hey guys, i hide a partition from the panel of dolphin and now i don't know how to undo it :S can you help me?
[14:33] <mr-rich> POQDavid: are you dual booting?
[14:33] <lrpcuba> does anyone here know how can i get my printer work ?  i have the correct drivers installed and the printer sayds that everything its okay , but.. she just dont print anything at all
[14:34] <lrpcuba> i have canon IR 1023
[14:34] <POQDavid> no
[14:34] <tsimpson> POQDavid: ext4 is too different from the other ext versions, so only ext2/3 will work
[14:34] <POQDavid> i am using a flash drive
[14:34] <tsimpson> afaik, the windows driver treats it as ext2 regardless, as ext3 is backwards compatible with 2
[14:35] <POQDavid> is there a driver for ext4???
[14:35] <mr-rich> POQDavid: then set up a mall FAT partition and put any files you want to transfer to M$ on that partition ...
[14:36] <POQDavid> hmm ok
[14:36] <POQDavid> thanks :)
[14:39] <CurB> nick MBR
[14:39] <POQDavid> can i set a ext4 type for /boot?
[14:49] <POQDavid> ok i gtg take care bye
[14:51] <linux4u> ok I hate to do this. but how can I get rid of all my widget configs?  I cant think of any other way to fix this.
[15:09] <linux4u> ok new twist, I downloaded some new widgets and I can only add widgets I had added before the upgrade.
[15:09] <linux4u> ne ideas?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> linux4u, did you add from the panel options add widgets?
[15:12] <mydogsnameisrudy> linux4u:  is asking on #kde now
[16:42] <jovin> hello my kdm keeps throwing me back when i try to login
[16:54] <HelenB> jovin, That's funny...
[16:55] <HelenB> I can see you IRCing.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> jovin, at the login ctl+alt+F1 , then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:57] <BluesKaj> HelenB, funny ?
[16:57] <jovin> i did, created new user, deleted .kde and now try to reinstall xorg
[16:57] <jovin> well, it's not the same machine, obviously
[16:57] <jovin> @HelenB
[16:57] <BluesKaj> perhaps you should have tried the recovery kernel in grub first
[16:57] <HelenB> jovin, I was just messing with you.
[16:57] <jovin> i don't mind :p
[16:57] <HelenB> as I know people can switch to a different TTY
[16:58] <HelenB> then irssi from it
[16:59] <BluesKaj> HelenB, mess around in #kubuntu-offtopic:)
[16:59] <HelenB> BluesKaj, no
[17:00] <HelenB> because I is being ontopic. lol
[17:01] <jovin> hmm
[17:01] <jovin> i cant purge xorg
[17:01] <jovin> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg
[17:01] <jovin> gives me dependence problems
[17:02] <BluesKaj> why are you purging xorg
[17:02] <jovin> wanna reinstall it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> jovin, sudo Xorg -configure at the tty
[17:05] <BluesKaj> mkae sure you di sudo service kdm stop , first
[17:06] <jovin> yes i already did configure it
[17:06] <jovin> dunno why, but now purging worked
[18:01] <[Relic]> !flash
[18:01] <[Relic]> !gnash
[18:02] <jovin> phew
[18:02] <jovin> after upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 everything works again
[18:02] <jovin> awesome
[18:16] <Daskreech> AlfE_: You mean you would like to pass mount options for the device popup? You would have to do that in /etc/fstab
[18:16] <Daskreech> hi BluesKaj
[18:17] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech
[18:20] <Daskreech> linux4u: mkdir ~/plasmabkup; kquitapp plasma-desktop && sleep 3 && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasmabkup/ && plasma-desktop&
[18:28] <AlfE_> Daskreech: I have a bunch of usb drives that i want to give specific rights so i can share them with samba for example
[18:29] <AlfE_> currently the mountpoint only belongs to the user that mounts it and nobody else has any right to access it
[18:29] <Peace-> hi guys
[18:29] <AlfE_> 700
[18:30] <AlfE_> fstab isn't that ideal for usb drives that could be removed
[18:31] <AlfE_> and reattached
[18:35] <Daskreech> AlfE_: you can use the UUID
[18:36] <Daskreech> Peace-: Peace
[18:38] <Peace-> Daskreech: :)
[18:39] <AlfE_> i am using them for all internal disks already and for my external ones, i would like to make it as easy as possible
[18:42] <Daskreech> AlfE_: you can generate the UUID with the blkid command. as long as you don't format the partition it will always associate the options with that drive
[18:45] <Daskreech> Ok I'm off
[18:45] <Daskreech> later
[18:46] <AlfE_> ok
[18:50] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: ping. can you guide AlfE_ with regards to mount points?
[18:55] <cryptodira> i am having trouble getting the screensaver to work with the opengl modules, they cause the entire screen to flash...... amd/64 , ati radion 4200 series graphics setup.... suggestions?
[18:56] <AlfE_> i had this in ubuntu/gnome, obviously it gives more rights to my mountpoints by default
[19:03] <BluesKaj> AlfE_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[19:10] <robertzaccour> I have Ubuntu with Gnome-Shell. Would it be better to install kde-desktop or kubuntu-desktop?
[19:11] <Peace-> robertzaccour: i would install kubuntu-desktop
[19:12] <robertzaccour> Peace-, whats the difference? besides extra software
[19:13] <Peace-> robertzaccour: dependeces
[19:13] <Peace-> robertzaccour: well kubuntu has a modded stuff
[19:13] <Peace-> i mean it's not kde vanilla
[19:14] <Peace-> robertzaccour: btw it's not a good thing what you are trying to do
[19:14] <Peace-> robertzaccour: i would install kubuntu in another partition
[19:14] <Peace-> 10 gig is even too much
[19:15] <Peace-> robertzaccour: in your case you wuld install kde into a gnomeshell installation that mean bad menus , multiple application for the same function and i think a bad performance for kde
[19:16] <Peace-> iwhen i have installed kde into ubuntu it was not so fast as you could get with a clean installation of kubuntu
[19:17] <BluesKaj> robertzaccour, kde-desktop and kubuntu desktop are related thru the workspace , but they are different
[19:17] <BluesKaj> anyway gotta go ....BBL
[19:44] <anon> test
[19:46] <anon> hi
[19:48] <anon> I have problem with network? If i start watching film on youtube, i cant open another one, if first do not finish buffering. Hm?
[20:28] <HelenB> Is chronical stopping Kubuntu? :o
[20:29] <pangolin> HelenB, you mean Canonical and no they are not stopping it, they just won't have someone on payroll working on kubuntu full time.
[20:29] <jussi> HelenB: canonical just stopped paying the lead dev, and he is now employed by another company, so nothing has really changed
[20:29] <pangolin> but Kubuntu is strong and not going anywhere
[20:29] <jussi> in fact, we now have 2 paid devs, so we are stronger than ever.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> chronical , hehe,
[20:31] <liudas> jussi: i'm really happy about that
[20:31] <BluesKaj> jussi, employed by another company ..I thought he was assigned other duties within canonical
[20:31] <liudas> kubuntu is nice distro
[20:32] <jussi> BluesKaj: no, he moved to blue systems, along with agateau
[20:32] <jussi> anyway, for more infor -> #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <HelenB> As long as it doesn't end up turning out hoggy and buggy like Ubuntu I'm okay.
[20:32] <BluesKaj> what's blue systems all about ?
[22:02] <ubuntu> how to join freenode on ubuntu-fr, please?
[22:05] <tsimpson> ubuntu: just put "/join #ubuntu-fr" without the quotes
[22:06] <ubuntu> ok thaks tsimpson
[22:51] <cryptodira> anyone here running Opera, if so, how did avoid 'jumpy/laggy' scrolling?
[22:51] <cryptodira> under kubuntu of course  :)
[22:55] <mydogsnameisrudy> chromium
[23:30] <viKtor__> hi people, is kdewallet really worth it?