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| Ursinha | hello? | 16:00 |
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| arosales | Hello | 16:00 |
| smb | \o | 16:01 |
| utlemming | I think this is going to be lightly attended meeting today with everyone at ODS | 16:01 |
| Ursinha | should we do that anyway? | 16:01 |
| arosales | yes, lets meet | 16:01 |
| Ursinha | #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team | 16:02 |
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| arosales | should be relatively short :-) | 16:02 |
| Ursinha | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:02 |
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| Ursinha | should I trust the wiki page? | 16:02 |
| arosales | smoser: did you update after last weeks meeting? | 16:03 |
| Ursinha | the logs aren't there.. | 16:03 |
| arosales | spamaps isn't here at the moment | 16:04 |
| arosales | jamespage: did you have a chance to follow up on the FTBFS? | 16:04 |
| arosales | jamespage: is also at ODS so may not be available. | 16:04 |
| arosales | Ursinha: lets move onto bugs for now | 16:04 |
| Ursinha | all right | 16:05 |
| arosales | http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html | 16:05 |
| Ursinha | #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html | 16:05 |
| * arosales looking for non openstack bugs | 16:05 | |
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| arosales | bug 928990 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 | 16:05 |
| arosales | utlemming: any update there? | 16:06 |
| utlemming | arosales: yes, it is going to require substaintial plumbing to get that fixed. | 16:06 |
| arosales | utlemming:ok, as we are past final freeze is this something that will need to go into an SRU? | 16:07 |
| utlemming | Most users should never hit it, so it not as scary as it sounds | 16:07 |
| utlemming | that particular bug has been changed with a request for a rescue console | 16:07 |
| arosales | utlemming: ok, thanks. | 16:07 |
| utlemming | I've done a bit of work on it, but I want to make this a UDS discussion | 16:07 |
| arosales | utlemming: will you be drafting up a blueprint? | 16:07 |
| utlemming | Yes, its part of the cloud images roundtable I've proposed | 16:08 |
| arosales | utlemming: cool, thanks. | 16:08 |
| * arosales skipping 930916 as SpamapS isn't currently available | 16:09 | |
| arosales | quantum bugs . . . | 16:09 |
| arosales | bug 979159 | 16:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 979159 in quantum (Ubuntu Precise) "Several installation error issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979159 | 16:09 |
| arosales | looks like jamespage had confirmed that one | 16:10 |
| arosales | also looks like jamespage triaged bug 979190 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 979190 in quantum (Ubuntu Precise) "Missing upstart scripts" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979190 | 16:11 |
| arosales | as well with bug 979163 | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 979163 in quantum (Ubuntu Precise) "quantum-server needs to create /var/run/quantum" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979163 | 16:11 |
| arosales | skipping bug 880339 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #880339 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339). The error has been logged | 16:12 |
| arosales | bug 974584 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 | 16:12 |
| seh | fixed for lxc for precise | 16:13 |
| seh | staying open to be fixed in initscripts in q+ | 16:13 |
| arosales | seh: thanks for the update. | 16:13 |
| Ursinha | is the importance High as the other tasks? | 16:14 |
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| seh | I think so | 16:14 |
| Ursinha | I'll set it, thanks seh | 16:14 |
| seh | thanks | 16:14 |
| arosales | Ursinha: thanks | 16:14 |
| arosales | have one new FTBFS | 16:15 |
| arosales | bug 935071 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 935071 in drools (Ubuntu Precise) "Please remove drools from precise" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935071 | 16:15 |
| arosales | looks like jamespage had also taken a look at that one. | 16:15 |
| arosales | MIR's are progerssing | 16:16 |
| Ursinha | arosales, he unassigned himself from that bug | 16:16 |
| arosales | Ursinha: ah yes, any takers here ? | 16:17 |
| Ursinha | it seems the package needs to be removed from the archive, if so, there might be a process somewhere indicating how to do so | 16:17 |
| Ursinha | (subscribing a team to the bug or something like that) | 16:17 |
| arosales | ya, may need to add an archieve admin | 16:17 |
| arosales | I'll follow up on it | 16:17 |
| Ursinha | cool | 16:18 |
| arosales | thats it for the bugs. | 16:18 |
| arosales | Just a few blueprints to go over | 16:18 |
| * arosales looking at | 16:18 | |
| arosales | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html | 16:18 |
| Ursinha | [ACTION] arosales to follow up on bug 935071 | 16:18 |
| meetingology | ACTION: arosales to follow up on bug 935071 | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 935071 in drools (Ubuntu Precise) "Please remove drools from precise" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935071 | 16:18 |
| arosales | sorting by priority and completion | 16:18 |
| Ursinha | #topic Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html | 16:18 |
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| * arosales also looking at non-openstack bugs | 16:18 | |
| arosales | skipping https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-charms | 16:19 |
| arosales | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-kvm-document-suggested-changes | 16:19 |
| arosales | I don't think hallyn is here | 16:19 |
| seh | I was going to start the perf runs today, but that laptop is now doing qa tests | 16:19 |
| seh | i blame arosales :) | 16:19 |
| Ursinha | arosales, one of the ACTION items from last meeting was: SpamapS to postpone servercloud-p-cloud-power-management to Q | 16:19 |
| arosales | seh: for sure, I'll take that blame :-) | 16:20 |
| arosales | I'll follow up with hallyn | 16:20 |
| arosales | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-pushing-cloud | 16:20 |
| arosales | utlemming: are these TODOs going to make 12.04? | 16:20 |
| utlemming | No, I've marked the blueprint deferred already. I'll also update the todo's | 16:21 |
| arosales | utlemming: ok, thanks | 16:21 |
| arosales | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloudutils | 16:21 |
| arosales | also may need to look at this one I think the thought on that one was to get clou-images-sync done | 16:22 |
| arosales | utlemming: is that still viable for 12.04? | 16:22 |
| utlemming | arosales: yes, the cloud-image sync script is done | 16:22 |
| arosales | utlemming: cool, should "[utlemming] implement cloud-images-sync: TODO" move to done? | 16:23 |
| utlemming | refresh. I just updated that | 16:23 |
| arosales | utlemming: ah thanks :-) | 16:23 |
| arosales | Ursinha: thats covers the blueprints I had in mind to discuss | 16:24 |
| Ursinha | arosales, right | 16:24 |
| Ursinha | moving on then | 16:24 |
| Ursinha | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:24 |
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| Ursinha | anything to note? | 16:24 |
| arosales | So a lot of folks at ODS | 16:24 |
| seh | [1;5AI expect I'll be heading to linuxcon in august | 16:24 |
| Ursinha | besides ODS happening right now | 16:24 |
| arosales | m_3 will be attending railsconf April 23-25 | 16:25 |
| seh | (for security summit, maybe kvm one) | 16:25 |
| Ursinha | cool :) | 16:25 |
| Ursinha | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) | 16:25 |
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| * Ursinha looks around for hggdh | 16:26 | |
| hggdh | I am here, just had a bit of an issue with weechat | 16:26 |
| Ursinha | oh | 16:27 |
| hggdh | Ursinha: nothing new, except please help test :-) | 16:27 |
| hggdh | .. | 16:27 |
| Ursinha | :) | 16:27 |
| Ursinha | great | 16:27 |
| Ursinha | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | 16:27 |
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| * smb only has to say that he has nothing to say... | 16:27 | |
| smb | .. | 16:27 |
| Ursinha | hehe | 16:27 |
| Ursinha | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | 16:27 |
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| rbasak | ARM server netinstalls are currently broken due to bug 984007. This is a critical issue and should be fixed soon. | 16:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 984007 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "netinst d-i fails on armadaxp" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984007 | 16:27 |
| rbasak | Nothing else to report. Any questions for me? | 16:27 |
| arosales | rbasak: can that be an SRU or do we need to talk with the release team about getting this in before 12.04 release? | 16:28 |
| rbasak | arosales: the foundations team are looking after this - infinity in particular. | 16:28 |
| arosales | rbasak: ok, I'll also follow up with the release team on Friday during their meeting | 16:29 |
| rbasak | I presume he'll a fix in before release. | 16:29 |
| rbasak | he'll get a fix in | 16:29 |
| arosales | rbasak: thanks for the info | 16:29 |
| arosales | .. | 16:29 |
| Ursinha | it was just set to In Progress, yay | 16:29 |
| Ursinha | thanks rbasak | 16:29 |
| rbasak | np | 16:30 |
| Ursinha | #topic Open Discussion | 16:30 |
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| rbasak | Our planned reference install will be a netinstall on armadaxp, so this is critical for us :) | 16:30 |
| arosales | rbasak: for sure | 16:30 |
| arosales | Ursinha: one topic | 16:30 |
| arosales | Call for testing on bare metal installs | 16:30 |
| arosales | We need help doing some installs to check off the tests at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds/15473/testcases | 16:31 |
| arosales | so if anyone has any spare cycles please see if you check if any of the tests pass | 16:31 |
| arosales | .. | 16:31 |
| * Ursinha looks | 16:31 | |
| seh | j'accuse | 16:31 |
| Ursinha | cool | 16:32 |
| Ursinha | please, help test! | 16:32 |
| Ursinha | #topicAnnounce next meeting date and time | 16:32 |
| Ursinha | #topic Announce next meeting date and time | 16:32 |
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| Ursinha | according to the queue, that should be utlemming | 16:32 |
| Ursinha | is that correct? | 16:32 |
| utlemming | yup, that's my understanding | 16:33 |
| Ursinha | all right, I'll update the wiki page | 16:33 |
| arosales | Thanks for charing this meeting Ursinha :-) | 16:33 |
| Ursinha | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Apr 17 16:33:29 2012 UTC. | 16:33 |
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| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-04-17-16.02.html | 16:33 |
| Ursinha | thanks arosales for leading it :) | 16:33 |
| Ursinha | thanks guys | 16:33 |
| jsalisbury | #startmeeting | 16:59 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 16:59 |
| jsalisbury | ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. | 16:59 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 16:59 |
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| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 16:59 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Precise | 16:59 |
| jsalisbury | # Meeting Etiquette | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # | 17:00 |
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| jsalisbury | Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting | 17:00 |
| ppisati | o/ | 17:00 |
| henrix | o/ | 17:00 |
| herton | o/ | 17:00 |
| kamalmostafa | \o | 17:00 |
| cking | o/ | 17:00 |
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| bjf | \o/ | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) | 17:00 |
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| ppisati | P/omap4: the video issue was resolved (lp963512), kernel was rebased on master (3.2.0-23.36) and Ubuntu-3.2.0-1412.15 will be Precise's omap4 kernel | 17:00 |
| ppisati | .. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | 17:01 |
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| jsalisbury | Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | 17:01 |
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| ogasawara | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.04.html | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | All work items have now been closed \o/ | 17:01 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Precise Development Kernel (ogasawara) | 17:02 |
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| ogasawara | The Precise kernel is currently frozen and release candidate images are | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | set to be spun this Thurs Apr 19. Final release is almost 1 week away | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | on Thurs Apr 26. We have started queuing patches for the first kernel | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | SRU. This includes patches from the most recent v3.2.15 upstream stable | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | release. Should an additional upload be required before final release, | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | we will try to include a few bug fixes which have been queued. Please | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | note that at this point in time, all patches are subject to our SRU | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | policy and uploads will only be granted at the discretion of the release | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | team. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/StablePatchFormat | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Important upcoming dates: | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | * Thurs Apr 19 - Release Candidate (~1 day) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | * Thurs Apr 26 - Final Release (~1 week) | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw) | 17:02 |
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| apw | nothing to report, backlog unchanged | 17:03 |
| apw | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Oneiric/Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton) | 17:03 |
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| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 17): | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | * Hardy - 2.6.24-31.101 - Nothing this cycle | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Lucid - 2.6.32-41.88 - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Natty - 2.6.38-14.58 - Completed | 17:03 |
| bjf | * Oneiric - 3.0.0-19.32 - Regression testing | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | Current opened tracking bugs details: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | Future stable cadence cycles: | 17:03 |
| bjf | * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseInterlock | 17:03 |
| bjf | 17:03 | |
| bjf | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | 17:03 |
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| bjf | Quixotic Quetzacoatl | 17:04 |
| cking | bjf just could not resist that | 17:04 |
| kamalmostafa | how would I ever learn to spell that? | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | Thanks everyone | 17:05 |
| jsalisbury | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Apr 17 17:05:19 2012 UTC. | 17:05 |
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| kamalmostafa | thanks jsalisbury | 17:05 |
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