[00:31] <jkyle> my preseed late_command is throwing this error on a package install
[00:31] <jkyle> (Can't locate Debconf/FrontEnd/Newt.pm
[00:31] <jkyle> The same script can be run either in the Installer shell on an alternate virtual console or in userland without error
[00:58] <tnachen> hi all, I wonder how do you look for bugs to be SRUed?
[00:58] <tnachen> on launchpad
[01:08] <Gallomimia> scuse me how do i get php installed on ubuntu server? not using it with apache
[01:08] <Bluemalkin> hi - does anyone have some tips on using rsyslog/relp for custom logs?
[01:09] <Gallomimia> oh. apt-get install php5
[01:09] <Gallomimia> the number tripped me up
[02:20] <hallyn> Ursinha: (see tnachen's question) do you know of a good query for finding fix released bugs (say in libvirt) which are still open for older releases?
[02:26] <Ursinha> hallyn, well, let me think a bit
[02:26] <Ursinha> (where think means open ipython and poke launchpad :))
[02:34] <hallyn> Ursinha: thanks :)  (no hurry, I'm pretty sure)
[02:39] <Ursinha> hallyn, :)
[02:46] <rainmakr> \quit
[04:08] <Paladine> can full disk encryption be applied to a running server or does it have to be done during disk setup/partioning?
[04:16] <SpamapS> Paladine: if you have spare space, you can use LVM to migrate to full disk encryption.. but its non-trivial.
[04:16] <SpamapS> Paladine: probably simpler to do a full backup, reinstall w/ full disk encryption, then restore.
[04:17] <Paladine> yeah that was my thoughts, I think i will wait til next LTS when I do a hardware upgrade
[04:17] <Paladine> given this is a production server
[04:17] <Paladine> it is more a "nice to have" feature atm than an essential one
[04:17] <SpamapS> next LTS .. meaning... next week? ;)
[04:17] <Paladine> is it next week?
[04:17] <SpamapS> aye
[04:18] <SpamapS> 'tis
[04:18] <Paladine> well i won't be installing it next week hehe
[04:18] <SpamapS> yeah wait for .1
[04:18] <SpamapS> :)
[04:18] <Paladine> will have to wait until June
[04:18] <SpamapS> Though, give it a test run on release day, and report some bugs, so June will go more smoothly :)
[04:18] <Paladine> I would if I had the time, that is why it will have to wait until June
[04:19] <Paladine> 10.4 has been good to me so far
[04:19] <Paladine> it can wait a couple more months
[04:20] <Paladine> thanks for the advice though, much appreciated, I know it is late
[05:56] <Karmen> Does a Intel SE7501BR2 Dual CPU Socket 604 Motherboard Server Board work with Ubuntu Server?
[05:57] <Karmen> It is an olderboard I just purchased.
[08:56] <lynxman> morning o/
[09:00] <azertyu> hi
[09:00] <azertyu> there
[09:00] <azertyu> anyone ?
[09:01] <azertyu> i get block on ubuntu grub menu
[09:01] <azertyu> what i have tod o ?
[12:10] <cornfeed> hello & good morning... I am having some troubles re-installing samba 4... would someone mind taking a look?  http://dpaste.org/gPuVo/
[12:23] <Atlantic777> I have a init script in /etc/init/ for redmine and I can use it as "service redmine start" but how to add it to startup with update-rc.d? update-rc.d looks in /etc/init.d/ and there is different kind of scripts.
[13:02] <pythonirc101> after a few hours (or days sometimes), my ubuntu box changes the file system to read only. Can anyone please help. I tried doing touch /forcechk ; reboot...but it still does the same thing over time.
[13:02] <pythonirc101> pangolin: any ideas?
[13:06] <rbasak> pythonirc101: sounds like a corrupt filesystem, or faulty hardware causing a corrupt filesystem. You should be able to check the cause by examining the bottom of "dmesg" output. If this is the case then I'd boot a recovery image and do a full fsck by hand.
[13:10] <claude2_> anyone know if theres a fix/workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/789174
[13:51] <Kiall> Anyone familiar with ebtables? Wanting to block certain ARP packets from passing out one side of a bridge, I believe ebtables can do this?
[14:39] <gary_poster> hallyn, hi.  we are running with lxc 0.7.5-3ubuntu52 on ec2, which should have the fix for bug 974584 AFAIK (from 0.7.5-3ubuntu51).  We're making lucid containers on precise.  We still see the semaphore problem until we manually make the change you described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/974584/comments/6 .  Is this unexpected/buggy, or according to plan?  (If we have to add the manual change from now
[14:39] <gary_poster>  on, that's ok, but I'd like to verify that this is the intent.)
[14:39] <hallyn> gary_poster: it's expected
[14:39] <hallyn> gary_poster: in lucid it'll have to be fixed with lxcguest
[14:39] <gary_poster> hallyn, oh ok cool
[14:39] <hallyn> gary_poster: since lxcguest isn't in the archive there, I just need to fix it in the version in ppa:ubuntu-virt/ppa, but haven't had time
[14:40] <hallyn> oneiric will require sru
[14:40] <gary_poster> ack, thanks hallyn
[14:40] <hallyn> gary_poster: if it's urgent, please yell at me and I'll fix the lucid one
[14:41] <gary_poster> hallyn, we'll add our own automation for the workaround, it's ok
[14:42] <hallyn> gary_poster: I don't see a knob to mark that bug as affecting lxc in lucid and oneiric
[14:43] <hallyn> gary_poster: cool, thanks
[14:44] <hallyn> jamespage: btw, i now do have a complete pyunit based lxc testsuite.  pls lemme know when you have a minute to show me what i should do with xunit so i can hand it to you :)
[14:55] <jamespage> hallyn, sure - can we do that next week?  ODS'ing ATM
[14:56] <hallyn> jamespage: that'd be great, thanks
[14:59] <koolhead17> hallyn, hey there
[15:00] <hallyn> koolhead17: hey
[15:01] <koolhead17> hallyn, are we having libvirt the 0.9-11-rc2 with precise?
[15:01] <hallyn> no
[15:01] <hallyn> we'll merge with debian in a few weeks, soon as q opens.  but p is frozen
[15:01] <hallyn> the version in the archive now is, as far as i'm concerned, final
[15:01] <koolhead17> 0.8.3 is still buggy
[15:02] <hallyn> 0.8.3?
[15:02] <koolhead17> am asking the guy to join us
[15:02] <koolhead17> and tell u issiue he had
[15:02] <koolhead17> gimme a sex
[15:02] <koolhead17> sec
[15:02] <koolhead17> lool
[15:02] <hallyn> we're on 0.9.8-2ubuntu17
[15:02] <koolhead17> ooh cool then. should not be an issue
[15:02] <hallyn> if there is an urgent bug, pls open a critical bug :)  certainly there are issues (some still upstream and definately in 0.9.11)
[15:03] <koolhead17> yes. thanks :)
[15:03] <hallyn> my kingdom for someone with the time and inclination to fix up the races with qemu hooks
[15:03] <koolhead17> hmm.
[15:04]  * koolhead17 wants to use openstack with lxc on precise
[15:05] <hallyn> pretty sure zul has made sure openstack+lxc on precise rocks
[15:07] <koolhead17> cool
[15:08] <Razique> Hello :)
[15:11] <koolhead17> hallyn, Razique is our friend here
[15:11] <koolhead17> :P
[15:11] <Razique> hello hallyn :)
[15:12] <hallyn> Razique: hi.  I"m afraid I'm running around like a headless chicken, but I'll respond as I can (just will seem unpersonable some of the time).  what's up?
[15:12] <Razique> I'm fine thanks :)
[15:23] <miceiken> is there any tool i can run to verify that my drives are intact?
[15:29] <patdk-wk> miceiken, fsck?
[15:29] <resno> RoyK: ping
[15:30] <RoyK> resno: pong
[15:32] <resno> RoyK: buying the sas board... you need other parts dont you?
[15:32] <RoyK> what sas board?
[15:32] <RoyK> how many ports/drives?
[15:32] <RoyK> hotplug?
[15:32] <resno> RoyK: the lsi 9211-8i
[15:33] <RoyK> you'll need gaffer tape
[15:33] <RoyK> just in case
[15:33] <resno> do i only need the lsi 9211-8i controller card or another thing?
[15:36] <RoyK> resno: given you have room for the drives, all I can think if, is a mini-SAS-to-4-sata-plugs-cable
[15:36] <RoyK> preferably two of those
[15:37] <resno> RoyK: ah, thats what i was missing. i only see 2 connectors on the card, so i wasnt sure how the connecting worked
[15:37] <RoyK> :)
[15:37] <resno> i knew it could do more... but its not magic
[15:41] <resno> RoyK: can you recommend another sas card, thats "affordable" this for my own home useage
[15:43] <RoyK> resno: AOC-SAT2-MV8 is a good board, but with good-old 32bit/33MHz PCI, it'll probably be too slow for large drives
[15:43] <resno> RoyK: large drive being 2TB?
[15:43] <RoyK> yes
[15:43] <RoyK> LSI 3081 is a good board too
[15:44] <RoyK> only 3Gbps (not 6 like the LSI 9xxx boards), but still, that's quite sufficient for spinning drives
[15:44] <resno> RoyK: can i assume all lsi boards are good?
[15:45] <RoyK> and seems you can get that for sub $100 on ebay
[15:45] <RoyK> resno: AFAIK, yes, although on some platforms (solaris), the mpt driver used for the 3Gbps boards, sucks rather badly
[15:46] <resno> i wont be gong solaris so, no wories there
[15:46] <RoyK> I don't think there's a problem with the linux driver for those boards
[15:46] <RoyK> and for <$100, it's dead cheap
[15:47] <resno> yea. i agree
[15:47] <resno> RoyK: i appreciate your continued help..
[15:47] <resno> now to get a bigger case and more drives lol
[15:47]  * RoyK is in a brilliant mood, just signed for a new job at hioa.no
[15:48] <resno> that in norway?
[15:48] <RoyK> most of .no is in norway ;)
[15:48] <resno> ah, i didnt even think that... i saw oslo and guessed
[15:49] <RoyK> hehe
[15:49] <andol> RoyK: congrats
[15:49] <RoyK> thanks :)
[16:15] <ironm> hello. Please allow me one question. is it possible to install PVMs from local iso image (ubuntu-server) on XCP 1.5 host? The "Other install media" template is for HVM and works as expected however the network performance is quite low :(
[16:15] <ironm> thank you in advance for any hints.
[16:19] <dkn> is there an easy way to forward localhost mail using an outside smtp.example.com server? i don't need incoming capabilities, i'd just like my root and user emails to forward to my real email account
[16:24] <mull> jamespage, do you still maintain a hudson / jenkins PPA somewhere ?  The ones I was able to find seem rather inactive.
[16:25]  * mull now sees that that might be a stupid question
[16:47] <hlan> I really really really need to upgrade the kernel... 3.0 keeps crashing on me
[16:47] <hlan> I use BTRFS and other candy
[17:54] <hallyn> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/204/builds/15536/testcases    <-  server qa test cases, fwiw
[17:56] <hallyn> (looking good so far)
[17:57] <hlan> great
[17:57] <hlan> are there some official precise prerelease EC2 AMI?
[17:57] <hlan> I really need to upgrade ASAP to get a newer kernel
[17:57] <hallyn> hlan: ubuntu-cloudimg-query precise
[17:57] <hallyn> ami-b5ea34dc
[17:58] <hallyn> should be the latest one
[17:58] <hlan> great... our production is crashing once a day
[17:58] <hallyn> yikes
[17:58] <hallyn> same way every day?
[17:58] <hlan> I'm on Oneiric now
[17:58] <hallyn> oh
[17:58] <hlan> I'm using lxc and btrfs so I guess one of them is causing it
[17:59] <hlan> probably btrfs
[17:59] <hallyn> yeah, btrfs promises so much, but...
[17:59]  * RoyK mumbles something about ZFS
[17:59] <hlan> and can't get any crash logs, EC2 really sucks for debugging kernel crashes... no output at all
[18:00] <hlan> I switched from ZFS to BTRFS because ZFS on linux was horrible. ZFS crashed every day as well and finally had to switch because it crashed consistently on boot
[18:01] <hlan> BTRFS is at least better because it's much simpler to work with subvolumes and it doesn't hog memory
[18:01] <jcastro> matsubara: That Michael Hughes guy on the maas-devel list tested like 3 of the PPAs, he should be your new best friend!
[18:01] <RoyK> hlan: zfs-fuse isn't good, but btrfs isn't ready and probably won't be in a year - or three?
[18:01] <RoyK> hlan: zfs on solaris/fbsd is *very* stable
[18:02] <hlan> RoyK: btrfs should not be that unstable... it was considered as the official file system by some distro
[18:02] <RoyK> hlan: which distro?
[18:02] <hlan> the main concern is the lack of diskcheck
[18:02] <hlan> which exists now
[18:03] <hlan> the main problem is that btrfs that is bundled with Oneiric is from like 2010...
[18:03] <hlan> RoyK: don't remember
[18:03] <RoyK> hlan: but which distro? or is that your average {{citation needed}} ?
[18:04] <hlan> RoyK: "Fedora17 to seriously consider Btrfs as default file system"
[18:05] <hlan> RoyK: I need linux for other reasons so solaris is not an option.
[18:05] <matsubara> jcastro, will take a look. thanks for the pointer and for getting me lots of new BFF
[18:05] <RoyK> hlan: so do I ... but I use solaris for storage
[18:05] <hlan> IT might not even be btrfs causing the crash... wish I could get some damn error dumps :/
[18:05] <hlan> EC2 FTL....
[18:05] <RoyK> heh
[18:06] <RoyK> I wonder when that fsck tool will appear
[18:06] <RoyK> it's been at least three years since I read it was almost finished
[18:07] <jcastro> matsubara: how has the testing been so far?
[18:08] <jcastro> matsubara: this will continue to be tough, the kind of people we need to test maas probably won't be paying too much attention until 12.04.1
[18:09] <matsubara> jcastro, we got some feedback. I still need to go through them and improve the docs. I've busy working on the Lexington lab
[18:09]  * jcastro nods
[18:10] <hlan> Is precise on the 3.3 kernel?
[18:11] <Nafallo> no. 3.2.0
[18:11] <hlan> Nafallo: what does this mean then? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.3.2-precise/
[18:12] <ogra_> it means what the url says :)
[18:12] <ogra_> its a nightly mainline 3.3.2 build
[18:13] <hlan> ogra_: of the kernel?
[18:14] <hlan> why is it labeled "precise"? is it just for testing?
[18:14] <jcastro> yes
[18:14] <jcastro> so basically if you report a kernel bug they ask you to try it on those to see if it's still present in a newer upstream version.
[18:23] <cjohnston> robbiew: ping
[18:23] <robbiew> cjohnston: pong
[18:24] <cjohnston> robbiew: For some reason (a decision above me) the decision was made ro rename Server & Cloud to Cloud & Server.. With that the track slug is now cloudserver...
[18:25] <cjohnston> robbiew: BPs are being filed under servercloud, so not being imported correctly into Summit
[18:26] <robbiew> uh...
[18:26] <robbiew> WHO made that call?
[18:27] <robbiew> cjohnston: who told you to change this?
[18:27] <cjohnston> Bug #959212
[18:28] <robbiew> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[18:29] <cjohnston> robbiew: would you like me to send out an email about the change or....?
[18:29] <robbiew> no
[18:30] <robbiew> cjohnston: do you have to change the slug?
[18:30] <robbiew> is the title on the web page somehow connected to what gets pulled from LP?
[18:30] <cjohnston> I could change it back to servercloud.... then it would just be backwards from the "name" of the track
[18:31] <jamespage> mull: its in the archive for oneiric and precise - but you can get backports from ppa:hudson-ubuntu/backports
[18:31] <robbiew> that's fine
[18:31] <robbiew> I've already sent multiple emails out telling people to use servercloud-q-
[18:31] <cjohnston> robbiew: the way it works is in the Summit admin, the track name and track slug are defined.. then when Summit imports from LP it checks the slugs against the name of the meeting (community-, servercloud-, etc) to assign a track
[18:31] <robbiew> right
[18:31] <cjohnston> ok... I will switch it back
[18:31] <robbiew> thanks
[18:31] <cjohnston> np
[18:32] <cjohnston> sorry for the confusion.. :-/
[18:32] <Blah1> any preseed experts in here?  For the life of me I can't get 'disable_dhcp boolean true'  to work.  No matter whether i pass it as kernel param or in the preseed file, it always tries to do dhcp and will only use the static ip *IF* the dhcp server lease fails.   If I have an existing dhcp service on the network, it will always try to grab that dhcp lease instead of using the static ip i've preseeded it for.   (ftr this is a
[18:32] <Blah1>  local preseed file on the custom cd i created)
[18:33] <robbiew> cjohnston: no worries....we've got too many cooks in the kitchen this time around
[18:33] <cjohnston> yup..
[18:33] <robbiew> cjohnston: thanks for letting me know...as apparently others didn't feel the need to
[18:33] <cjohnston> trust me.. I agree.. I have Linaro cooks too
[18:33] <cjohnston> :-)
[18:33] <robbiew> "lucky" you
[18:33] <cjohnston> heheh
[18:34] <cjohnston> They are taking me to Connect in Hong Kong... I guess that's lucky
[18:37] <SpamapS> anybody have experience getting rsyslog to log both remotely and locally?
[18:39] <cjohnston> robbiew: done
[18:40] <robbiew> cjohnston: thanks!
[18:40] <cjohnston> np
[18:40] <robbiew> SpamapS: run it twice :P
[18:43] <Blah1> anyone else preseed expert?
[19:59] <jsmith-argotec> I'm getting an error when trying to add a user using smbldap-useradd if I include a mail address...
[19:59] <jsmith-argotec> without the mail address it works fine
[20:00] <jsmith-argotec> this is the error: failed to add entry: objectClass: value #0 invalid per syntax at /usr/sbin/smbldap-useradd line 629, <DATA> line 466
[20:38] <tyler_d> hello all, I am trying to mount an ssd (kingston), I can see it in dmesg(but only 1 line) hep me please
[21:03] <iToast> hey
[21:03] <iToast> i cant speak in ubuntu e-e
[21:03] <iToast> Also.
[21:03] <iToast> Can I cluster my ubuntu servers togeather with windows..
[21:04] <iToast> I wan't to throw togeather a bunch of ubuntu machines in a cluster to assist in video rendering..
[21:33] <jkyle> I'm not getting a boot menu with 11.04. where could I set the timeout to higher? or force a menu?
[21:33] <Patrickdk> did you use the left shift key?
[21:34] <Patrickdk> edit the timeouts in /etc/default/grub
[21:37] <jkyle> cool, hidden_timeout was set. commented it
[21:53] <Blah1> anyone else preseed expert?
[22:40] <sako> hey guys how do i check what is set to startup at boot?
[22:40] <sako> which of my services are set to startup*
[22:50] <JanC> sako: if you have a recent Ubuntu system, that's somewhat difficult to predict, as services are supposed to start only when they are supposed to start...
[23:02] <sako> ya
[23:34] <hlan> anyone here familiar with crashes on amazon ec2? I never get any debug output when my instances stop responding... :/