| jcastro | rick_h: your tank looks awesome | 00:39 |
|---|---|---|
| jcastro | 2 coreys? | 00:39 |
| rick_h | jcastro: 6 | 00:39 |
| jcastro | rick_h: ooooh nice! (wrt. the shave) | 00:39 |
| rick_h | 6 cories, 6 rainbows, down to 8 harlequin and 8 cardinal tetras | 00:39 |
| rick_h | one rubber nose pleco, 3 chinese algae eaters | 00:39 |
| rick_h | one of the harelquins committed suicide jumping out the tank :/ | 00:39 |
| jcastro | Jill is traumatized by our last die off | 00:41 |
| rick_h | yea, my wife wasn't happy | 00:41 |
| jcastro | though I personally want to just double down | 00:41 |
| rick_h | she told me "I don't want to know about these things..." | 00:41 |
| rick_h | yea, I mean fish are fragile and you lose some. | 00:41 |
| rick_h | the two main ones you could tell were sick/not schooling with the others | 00:41 |
| rick_h | I told the wife "oooh, that's a bad sign..." | 00:42 |
| rick_h | and got yelled at for saying that | 00:42 |
| rick_h | two days later....poor fishies | 00:42 |
| jcastro | heh | 00:42 |
| rick_h | but 3 out of the what...over 30 I conider a good run | 00:42 |
| jcastro | I was doing awesome | 00:42 |
| jcastro | it's the one getting stuck in the filter | 00:42 |
| rick_h | and the guys in tehre are starting to really get some good color going, feeding real stuff vs flake ftw! | 00:42 |
| rick_h | heh | 00:42 |
| jcastro | and turning it into a filter of ammonia death for like a week before I found it | 00:43 |
| rick_h | ouch, yea I try to do a quick count each morning | 00:43 |
| rick_h | so I've caught most of them next day | 00:43 |
| jcastro | heh | 00:45 |
| jcastro | My tank was humming just fine until then | 00:45 |
| jcastro | everything was awesome | 00:45 |
| rick_h | shave was good, learned a lot, next one will be better | 00:45 |
| jcastro | it was like a perfect SimCity | 00:45 |
| rick_h | the brush is crazy | 00:45 |
| jcastro | yeah | 00:45 |
| rick_h | heh, aw3esome | 00:45 |
| jcastro | it's all about the prep | 00:45 |
| rick_h | the blades tripped me up, didn't realize they'd be that small/bendy | 00:45 |
| rick_h | almost feel like plastic they're so thin | 00:46 |
| jcastro | yeah I always flip out when changing them | 00:46 |
| jcastro | remembering the long sides are sharp | 00:46 |
| jcastro | but the other ones, not so much | 00:46 |
| rick_h | I was thinking like the razor blades you'd get at the hardware store | 00:46 |
| rick_h | pretty stiff | 00:46 |
| jcastro | ah, right | 00:46 |
| jcastro | what blades? | 00:46 |
| jcastro | I am trying the gillette 7 oclocks next | 00:47 |
| rick_h | just the defeault merkur one that came with the razor | 00:47 |
| rick_h | it came with some other ones, box of 10 | 00:47 |
| jcastro | ah | 00:48 |
| rick_h | so I've got 11 blades to work with for now | 00:48 |
| rick_h | I'm sure I'll try something out and find some stuff | 00:48 |
| jcastro | 11 weeks worth! | 00:49 |
| jcastro | I like the merkur ones, they're my favorite so far | 00:49 |
| jcastro | the only ones I suck with are the Lord ones ... | 00:49 |
| rick_h | good to know | 00:49 |
| jcastro | I think depends on the face and the person | 00:50 |
| jcastro | From what I can gather it's easy to fall into monster-cable-type idiocy with this stuff | 00:50 |
| rick_h | yea, seems to be the idea, interchange more parts to find what works for you | 00:50 |
| rick_h | yea, I don't think I shave enough to get that into it | 00:50 |
| jcastro | heh yeah | 00:50 |
| rick_h | I'm a twice a week shaver, would love a little more, but don't think I'll be doing it twice a day nuts or anything | 00:51 |
| jcastro | I have this waking nightmare of craig watching the scrollback and being like "what happened to you guys." | 00:51 |
| rick_h | heh, I think I've already left him like that. | 00:54 |
| jjesse | yeah i tuned this whole channel out lately | 00:55 |
| jjesse | sounds like some extreme makeover? | 00:55 |
| jcastro | hah | 00:55 |
| jcastro | well, what do we normally talk about at 9pm on a monday? | 00:55 |
| rick_h | beer! | 00:56 |
| jjesse | well you were talking about it at 9am this morning as well | 00:56 |
| rick_h | oh crap, not allowed to do that lately | 00:56 |
| jjesse | i learned that jcastro shaved 4 times in the army | 00:56 |
| jjesse | or something silly | 00:56 |
| jcastro | 3! | 00:56 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Too late | 01:22 |
| snap-l | Figure you gents are busily manscaping and such | 01:22 |
| jcastro | hah | 01:22 |
| jcastro | we're brogramming | 01:22 |
| * rick_h does a twitch...damn word | 01:23 | |
| snap-l | Hah, latest Prog magazine has a newspaper in the style of "Thick as a brick" | 01:25 |
| jrwren | it reminds me of queer eye for the straight guy. | 01:29 |
| jrwren | 'cept even teh queer didn't teach proper shaving. | 01:29 |
| jrwren | the show instead got sponsors liek gillette and the hawked the latest 3, 4,5,6,7 blade razors that dont' work nearly as well as a proper shave. | 01:30 |
| jrwren | how about: straight eye for the straight guy. real shaving, none of that sissy shit. | 01:30 |
| snap-l | jrwren: You expected something else? | 01:30 |
| snap-l | tsk tsk, it's all about the marketing | 01:30 |
| jrwren | snap-l: expected: no. wanted: of course. | 01:30 |
| rick_h | bah, couldn't get all the way to pep8 in one shot | 01:34 |
| rick_h | going to take some effort... https://github.com/buriy/python-readability/pull/15/files | 01:34 |
| rick_h | that time when you submit a pull request and wait for someone on the other side of the world to get around to peeking at it... | 02:14 |
| Shakes808 | Hello all, | 02:30 |
| rick_h | howdy | 02:31 |
| Shakes808 | I have a question if you could be so kind :D | 02:31 |
| rick_h | depends on the question, but shoot | 02:32 |
| Shakes808 | I am new to Linux and am installing and configuring GIT | 02:32 |
| Shakes808 | I am going through the progit.org tut | 02:32 |
| Shakes808 | What should I use for a diff tool? | 02:33 |
| rick_h | I just use git diff | 02:33 |
| rick_h | if you want you can use an external program. I think meld is pretty good with a gui, or gdfiff if you're a good vim users | 02:33 |
| rick_h | but I'd suggest getting comfy with the normal git diff output | 02:34 |
| Shakes808 | I am going to try using VIM | 02:34 |
| Shakes808 | I have Eclipse downloaded as well | 02:34 |
| Shakes808 | So GIT comes with a Diff tool? | 02:34 |
| Shakes808 | Do I need to install it or does it come with the package? | 02:34 |
| rick_h | http://luhman.org/blog/2009/08/25/git-difftool-and-vimdiff | 02:34 |
| rick_h | git diff is just a git command that will output a diff for you | 02:34 |
| Shakes808 | alright, looks like i have it already :D | 02:35 |
| Shakes808 | Thank you | 02:37 |
| rick_h | np, have fun | 02:37 |
| Shakes808 | :) | 02:42 |
| Shakes808 | So question about that | 02:49 |
| Shakes808 | I put in what they suggested for the colors and all that jazz, but when I go to open vim I get" | 02:50 |
| Shakes808 | "Error detected while processing /home/aaron/.vimrc: | 02:51 |
| Shakes808 | line 3: | 02:51 |
| Shakes808 | E185: Cannot find color scheme green | 02:51 |
| Shakes808 | Press ENTER or type command to continue | 02:52 |
| Shakes808 | It goes into vim but doesn't hold the configurations that I put in per the site | 02:52 |
| Shakes808 | User Error! I miss spelled greens | 03:16 |
| === ebarch_ is now known as ebarch | ||
| rick_h | morning | 10:58 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 11:32 |
| snap-l | Latest OMC is up | 11:32 |
| rick_h | party on! | 11:34 |
| snap-l | And, just because I can't seem to win when it comes to smart phones: I asked Ting if it would be possible to upgrade to the Motorola Photon to get a phone to me sooner | 11:35 |
| rick_h | http://shop.oreilly.com/category/deals/pocket-references.do?imm_mid=083695&cmp=em-code-books-videos-pocket-reference-direct | 11:35 |
| snap-l | checked the device list: Photon is nw shipping in 2-3 weeks | 11:36 |
| rick_h | oh hmmm, :/ | 11:36 |
| rick_h | ok yea not sure on the photon as an ok phone | 11:36 |
| snap-l | but my inner child wants new toys. | 11:36 |
| snap-l | WAH!!! | 11:36 |
| snap-l | rick_h: I have some of those pocket references. I don't find I use them nearly as often as I think I would | 11:37 |
| rick_h | I do like the regex one | 11:37 |
| rick_h | I don't use the python one much admittingly | 11:38 |
| rick_h | I think the key is they have to be kept right in front of you | 11:38 |
| snap-l | Yep | 11:38 |
| rick_h | then there's that brousch guy | 11:39 |
| snap-l | ALthough I don't have the ebook version of the regex book. | 11:40 |
| rick_h | well not a fan of htem as ebooks | 11:40 |
| snap-l | but that's $4.99 as an upgrade, so no hurry | 11:40 |
| rick_h | just not good for that | 11:40 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 11:40 |
| * snap-l decides to take the pocket reference books to work | 11:41 | |
| snap-l | God, the Python "Pocket Reference" is 210 pages. | 11:42 |
| rick_h | well it's for a whole lang | 11:42 |
| rick_h | I got that one in ebook and never ever use | 11:42 |
| brousch | eh, what aboot me? | 11:43 |
| snap-l | I want to know what it is about Mr. Lutz that makes his books so damn huge. | 11:43 |
| brousch | good grpug last night. 2 new guys, 2 old guys came back, 3 python jobs mentioned | 11:44 |
| rick_h | nice! | 11:45 |
| rick_h | got my branch merged into the readability library, think I'm going to try to take ownership of it | 11:46 |
| brousch | of the project? | 11:47 |
| rick_h | yea, she says she's in maint mode, but already have 6 todo items to fix up on it | 11:47 |
| rick_h | and there's a fork that's done a ton of good work on it I want to cherry pick 20 commits or so | 11:47 |
| rick_h | but it's go no tests, no build, poor setup.py setup, no pep8...it needs a lot of <3 | 11:48 |
| brousch | carpe forkum | 11:48 |
| rick_h | yea, but I want my changes on pypi | 11:50 |
| rick_h | so unless I fork/rename/etc but why if I can get commit rights or even maintainership? | 11:50 |
| brousch | yeah | 11:52 |
| rick_h | speaking of modern-package-template from yesterday http://kennethreitz.com/repository-structure-and-python.html | 12:01 |
| rick_h | though note he doesn't advocate the src directory which a lot of commenters do | 12:01 |
| brousch | i'm not sureabout src | 12:01 |
| brousch | seems unnecessary | 12:02 |
| rick_h | well it won't work on heroku :/ | 12:02 |
| rick_h | but I like it | 12:02 |
| brousch | pydev tries to do it by default | 12:02 |
| rick_h | it splits up the clear package bits from virtualenv and other things | 12:02 |
| brousch | so you and pydev agree on something | 12:02 |
| rick_h | doh! | 12:03 |
| rick_h | no I mean... that... crap | 12:03 |
| brousch | muahahahah | 12:03 |
| brousch | rick_h: o'reilly is looking for reviewers for "Fitness for Geeks" http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920015475.do?imm_mid=083cf6&cmp=em-code-ug-ug-nl-apr12 | 12:07 |
| rick_h | good stress uh oh | 12:11 |
| brousch | good stress? | 12:14 |
| rick_h | from the book description | 12:15 |
| brousch | ah, at the end | 12:15 |
| brousch | i had to install the ginormous XCode and the XCode Command Line Utilities (an additional giant download) just to get virtualenvs working on OSX | 12:32 |
| rick_h | heh, I don't get devs on osx sometimes but oh well | 12:32 |
| brousch | and then i needed an additional apt-like program called homebrew to install the poppler library | 12:33 |
| brousch | i cannot live like this | 12:33 |
| jrwren | brousch: why not? brew is really nice. | 12:58 |
| jrwren | brousch: and IIRC there is some way you can install xcode command line utils without full xcode. | 12:58 |
| brousch | maybe, but the instructions i found had you go through XCode->Prefs->downloads and download it from inside of xcode | 12:59 |
| rick_h | yea, I think armin setup the command line tools only package or something | 13:01 |
| jrwren | brousch: me too. i've no idea how to get them wihtout full xcode. | 13:02 |
| jrwren | but i use full xcode occasionally, so I'm find with snagging it | 13:02 |
| rick_h | http://librelist.com/browser//homebrew/2012/2/16/command-line-tools-for-xcode/ | 13:03 |
| rick_h | sorry, kenneth did it I guess then | 13:03 |
| rick_h | see if it shows up in homebrew for you | 13:03 |
| jrwren | https://github.com/downloads/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer/GCC-10.7-v2.pkg looks like that it one option | 13:05 |
| rick_h | or that I guess | 13:05 |
| rick_h | :) | 13:05 |
| brousch | bah, well it's done now. my gigabytes are occupied | 13:06 |
| rick_h | well for future reference | 13:06 |
| jrwren | you might not be able to brew install it becuase it installs to system paths and brew does not install things to system paths. | 13:06 |
| rick_h | gotcha | 13:06 |
| rick_h | yea, just going off the email there | 13:06 |
| jrwren | from __future__ import print_function #pros?cons? | 14:26 |
| brousch | i think it just works in 2.7 | 14:27 |
| rick_h | yea | 14:27 |
| brousch | is that for 2.6? | 14:27 |
| rick_h | maybe 26? | 14:27 |
| jrwren | oh? | 14:28 |
| rick_h | make sure to test it first | 14:28 |
| jrwren | ty. | 14:28 |
| rick_h | pro if you can use it | 14:28 |
| jrwren | i'm not sure how to tell the difference. | 14:28 |
| jrwren | print("hi"); works no matter what. | 14:29 |
| rick_h | looks like it works in python 2.6 | 14:29 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, but doens't print without () error if that's imported? | 14:29 |
| rick_h | jrwren: yea, so testing it on my 2.6 ec2 box | 14:29 |
| rick_h | if you import print_function it makes `print 'test'` a syntax error | 14:30 |
| rick_h | and that imports in 2.6 | 14:30 |
| jrwren | but the function syntax works either way. | 14:30 |
| jrwren | ah, so it just makes the old syntax error. | 14:30 |
| jrwren | ok, I get it. | 14:30 |
| jrwren | anyone used proxmox ? looks like pretty sweet virtualization | 14:32 |
| rick_h | nope | 14:33 |
| jjesse | anyone watching tDiscovery land at Dulles Airport? | 14:33 |
| jjesse | looks like its finally coming in after a flyby of DC | 14:34 |
| snap-l | How poetic. ;) | 14:40 |
| snap-l | "Hey DC, get a glimpse of how great America was" | 14:41 |
| jjesse | basically | 14:41 |
| jjesse | maybe they should've done this more often so we would still have a shuttle program | 14:41 |
| snap-l | Nah, because then they'd bitch for the added air travel. | 14:42 |
| jjesse | well people are now interested in the shuttle | 14:43 |
| jjesse | should've done that earlier | 14:43 |
| snap-l | Maybe they'll get interested in the XPrize contenders | 14:43 |
| snap-l | Maybe NASA can compete then. ;) | 14:44 |
| rick_h | bwuhahah, upload stupid @#$#@ to pypi, I just point requirements.txt at my git repo! | 14:44 |
| snap-l | rick_h: Context, or we'll label you raving mad | 14:45 |
| rick_h | the readable maintainer merged my branch in, but uploaded an .egg to pypi | 14:45 |
| snap-l | Ah, OK | 14:45 |
| rick_h | .egg == no pip install == no heroku since it uses pip requirements.txt | 14:45 |
| rick_h | so I ping'd a heroku guy, found outit supports git installs | 14:46 |
| brousch | heh | 14:46 |
| rick_h | and thus bypass stupid paackage mantainer and just use my fork for heroku so it works | 14:46 |
| brousch | carpe forkum! | 14:47 |
| rick_h | yep, though I now have commit bits | 14:48 |
| rick_h | so I can commit to her git repo, but still need to get her to upload proper source dists | 14:48 |
| rick_h | so merged in a makefile with a make upload command that forces sdist :) | 14:48 |
| rick_h | bwuahhahaha, I'll makify the world! | 14:48 |
| rick_h | and `make heroku` is complete and my app is updated | 14:48 |
| rick_h | <3 | 14:49 |
| rick_h | sometimes I just love software, work around all the problems and just make it go | 14:49 |
| brousch | does make work on windows? | 14:54 |
| rick_h | no idea, who cares :P | 14:54 |
| rick_h | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/make.htm | 14:54 |
| brousch | well, you're assuming the maintainer can run make | 14:55 |
| rick_h | true | 14:55 |
| snap-l | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ou16t/ | 15:58 |
| snap-l | rick_h: ^^ | 15:58 |
| JonEdney | Good morning folks. | 15:59 |
| rick_h | snap-l: yay | 15:59 |
| rick_h | howdy JonEdney | 15:59 |
| snap-l | http://gizmodo.com/5902609/the-only-us-blackberry-store-might-be-the-saddest-place-on-earth | 17:08 |
| snap-l | Apparently it's in Farmington Hills | 17:08 |
| snap-l | And no, it's not tjagoda's house. | 17:08 |
| greg-g | but he goes there daily | 17:10 |
| greg-g | to apparently listen to jazz and get photo ops with mascots | 17:11 |
| snap-l | Actually, it was Wireless Giant | 17:11 |
| jrwren | TIL: if you don't have /etc/resolv.conf but do have dns in nss hosts, glibc will automatically try localhost, and if you have dns on localhost, it will work. | 17:16 |
| rick_h | ummm, nice? | 17:16 |
| jrwren | IMO its weird. | 17:16 |
| rick_h | <3 this little powergen battery thing. Forgot to charge the mifi...no problem. | 17:38 |
| snap-l | Man, I need to get a new music drive | 19:06 |
| snap-l | 99% with 8GB left | 19:06 |
| snap-l | of a 640 GB drive | 19:06 |
| JonEdney | Thats a lof of music.. | 19:07 |
| greg-g | geebus, mirroring jamendo, bandcamp, .. what else? | 19:07 |
| snap-l | CD rips | 19:16 |
| snap-l | all FLAC | 19:16 |
| greg-g | you know, if I had a workable CD drive in my possesion, I might do that | 19:19 |
| greg-g | as it is, the closest I have is my shelf stereo but even the cd player on that makes noises of impending death | 19:19 |
| greg-g | x-series all the way, baby | 19:19 |
| brousch1 | i have an external usb cd/dvd burner | 19:21 |
| brousch1 | has lasted for many years | 19:21 |
| greg-g | yeah, might need to do that at some point when I have a bit more time on my hands to backup all my CDs before they bit rot | 19:27 |
| brousch1 | you can just buy them again | 19:28 |
| snap-l | I haven't seen much bit rot on my discs | 19:29 |
| snap-l | and I have discs dating back to high school | 19:29 |
| greg-g | I'd rather not contribute to the creation of more plastic-based music discs | 19:29 |
| greg-g | snap-l: unpossible | 19:29 |
| * snap-l treats his discs like a librarian | 19:30 | |
| * greg-g prevents self from making an old joke | 19:30 | |
| greg-g | I sure didn't, my are in a 200-disc case that has been in the sun way too many times | 19:30 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I probably have discs that are older than you are. | 19:30 |
| snap-l | 1988 is when I started getting CDs. | 19:31 |
| greg-g | I"M NOT THAT YOUNG! | 19:31 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:31 |
| * greg-g was born in '82 | 19:31 | |
| snap-l | I think the only thing that might be older than you is some alvin and the chipmunks records. :) | 19:32 |
| brousch1 | greg-g: i meant buy them again in digital format | 19:32 |
| * snap-l was a musical square in elementary school. | 19:32 | |
| brousch1 | snap-l: did you get those from the battle creek cereal festival? | 19:32 |
| greg-g | brousch1: :( | 19:33 |
| snap-l | brousch1: eh? | 19:33 |
| brousch1 | guess not | 19:33 |
| snap-l | I have no idea what you're talking about. :) | 19:37 |
| snap-l | Do you mean some flexidiscs? | 19:37 |
| brousch1 | no, as a kid i got free cheesy records like alvin and the chipmunks from the battle creek longest breakfast table thing | 19:38 |
| snap-l | brousch1: Huh, never heard of it | 19:39 |
| snap-l | God, I <3 archive.org | 19:40 |
| snap-l | I currently see 32 items created by that account. Please contact us again when you have created 50 items | 19:40 |
| snap-l | (asked about creating a collection) | 19:40 |
| jrwren | 1988! that is when cd players cost $1000 | 19:40 |
| snap-l | I had a portable CD player | 19:41 |
| snap-l | it cost $250 or something like that. | 19:41 |
| jrwren | i didn't know what a cd was until 91ish | 19:41 |
| jrwren | no, that can't be eright. | 19:41 |
| snap-l | Folks were starting to get them when I was in high school | 19:41 |
| snap-l | I saved up an entire summer of caddying to get a CD player | 19:42 |
| brousch1 | i got one from aol in the mail around 1993 before i had a computer. i hung it up because it was so pretty | 19:42 |
| jrwren | oh yeah, I had a portable in 91 too. | 19:42 |
| jrwren | maybe as early as 89. | 19:42 |
| snap-l | That was sophmore year into junior year | 19:42 |
| jrwren | i forgot entirely. | 19:42 |
| snap-l | I remember the first three albums I bought | 19:42 |
| jrwren | snap-l: you are my age, old man? | 19:42 |
| snap-l | graduated in 1989 | 19:42 |
| snap-l | so a little older. | 19:43 |
| jrwren | ah, no my youngest cousins age. | 19:43 |
| jrwren | at SRT i worked with 4 or 5 people that were class of '89 | 19:43 |
| jrwren | which is a high mode given a 20 person company | 19:43 |
| greg-g | whoa, segphault mentioned my literally 4 minute blog post on twitter | 20:12 |
| greg-g | I was wondering why my views were going crazy but my short link (goo.gl) wasn't showing anything :) | 20:12 |
| rick_h | p | 20:26 |
| === AaronThul_ is now known as AaronThul | ||
| snap-l | Hey, there's AaronThul | 21:01 |
| jcastro | and there he goes | 22:19 |
| jcastro | rick_h: please charm bookie so we can serve it over spdy, because why not: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/17/want-to-mess-with-spdy-easily-come-experiment-with-it-via-juju/ | 22:19 |
| greg-g | when did github's 404 page image move on mouse over? | 22:50 |
| greg-g | https://github.com/blahdeblah | 22:50 |
| Blazeix | since forever, i think | 23:01 |
| Blazeix | at least a long time | 23:01 |
| greg-g | oh, well then, apparently I'm not a big mouse user | 23:03 |
| greg-g | I can't make sense of this table: http://sopatrack.com/bills.html | 23:27 |
| greg-g | specifically HR 1 and HR 2354 | 23:28 |
| greg-g | (how they label the vote going) | 23:28 |
| rick_h | jcastro: lol | 23:52 |
| rick_h | jcastro: I did give it a go of juju'ing it | 23:59 |
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