[00:39] rick_h: your tank looks awesome [00:39] 2 coreys? [00:39] jcastro: 6 [00:39] rick_h: ooooh nice! (wrt. the shave) [00:39] 6 cories, 6 rainbows, down to 8 harlequin and 8 cardinal tetras [00:39] one rubber nose pleco, 3 chinese algae eaters [00:39] one of the harelquins committed suicide jumping out the tank :/ [00:41] Jill is traumatized by our last die off [00:41] yea, my wife wasn't happy [00:41] though I personally want to just double down [00:41] she told me "I don't want to know about these things..." [00:41] yea, I mean fish are fragile and you lose some. [00:41] the two main ones you could tell were sick/not schooling with the others [00:42] I told the wife "oooh, that's a bad sign..." [00:42] and got yelled at for saying that [00:42] two days later....poor fishies [00:42] heh [00:42] but 3 out of the what...over 30 I conider a good run [00:42] I was doing awesome [00:42] it's the one getting stuck in the filter [00:42] and the guys in tehre are starting to really get some good color going, feeding real stuff vs flake ftw! [00:42] heh [00:43] and turning it into a filter of ammonia death for like a week before I found it [00:43] ouch, yea I try to do a quick count each morning [00:43] so I've caught most of them next day [00:45] heh [00:45] My tank was humming just fine until then [00:45] everything was awesome [00:45] shave was good, learned a lot, next one will be better [00:45] it was like a perfect SimCity [00:45] the brush is crazy [00:45] yeah [00:45] heh, aw3esome [00:45] it's all about the prep [00:45] the blades tripped me up, didn't realize they'd be that small/bendy [00:46] almost feel like plastic they're so thin [00:46] yeah I always flip out when changing them [00:46] remembering the long sides are sharp [00:46] but the other ones, not so much [00:46] I was thinking like the razor blades you'd get at the hardware store [00:46] pretty stiff [00:46] ah, right [00:46] what blades? [00:47] I am trying the gillette 7 oclocks next [00:47] just the defeault merkur one that came with the razor [00:47] it came with some other ones, box of 10 [00:48] ah [00:48] so I've got 11 blades to work with for now [00:48] I'm sure I'll try something out and find some stuff [00:49] 11 weeks worth! [00:49] I like the merkur ones, they're my favorite so far [00:49] the only ones I suck with are the Lord ones ... [00:49] good to know [00:50] I think depends on the face and the person [00:50] From what I can gather it's easy to fall into monster-cable-type idiocy with this stuff [00:50] yea, seems to be the idea, interchange more parts to find what works for you [00:50] yea, I don't think I shave enough to get that into it [00:50] heh yeah [00:51] I'm a twice a week shaver, would love a little more, but don't think I'll be doing it twice a day nuts or anything [00:51] I have this waking nightmare of craig watching the scrollback and being like "what happened to you guys." [00:54] heh, I think I've already left him like that. [00:55] yeah i tuned this whole channel out lately [00:55] sounds like some extreme makeover? [00:55] hah [00:55] well, what do we normally talk about at 9pm on a monday? [00:56] beer! [00:56] well you were talking about it at 9am this morning as well [00:56] oh crap, not allowed to do that lately [00:56] i learned that jcastro shaved 4 times in the army [00:56] or something silly [00:56] 3! [01:22] jcastro: Too late [01:22] Figure you gents are busily manscaping and such [01:22] hah [01:22] we're brogramming [01:23] * rick_h does a twitch...damn word [01:25] Hah, latest Prog magazine has a newspaper in the style of "Thick as a brick" [01:29] it reminds me of queer eye for the straight guy. [01:29] 'cept even teh queer didn't teach proper shaving. [01:30] the show instead got sponsors liek gillette and the hawked the latest 3, 4,5,6,7 blade razors that dont' work nearly as well as a proper shave. [01:30] how about: straight eye for the straight guy. real shaving, none of that sissy shit. [01:30] jrwren: You expected something else? [01:30] tsk tsk, it's all about the marketing [01:30] snap-l: expected: no. wanted: of course. [01:34] bah, couldn't get all the way to pep8 in one shot [01:34] going to take some effort... https://github.com/buriy/python-readability/pull/15/files [02:14] that time when you submit a pull request and wait for someone on the other side of the world to get around to peeking at it... [02:30] Hello all, [02:31] howdy [02:31] I have a question if you could be so kind :D [02:32] depends on the question, but shoot [02:32] I am new to Linux and am installing and configuring GIT [02:32] I am going through the progit.org tut [02:33] What should I use for a diff tool? [02:33] I just use git diff [02:33] if you want you can use an external program. I think meld is pretty good with a gui, or gdfiff if you're a good vim users [02:34] but I'd suggest getting comfy with the normal git diff output [02:34] I am going to try using VIM [02:34] I have Eclipse downloaded as well [02:34] So GIT comes with a Diff tool? [02:34] Do I need to install it or does it come with the package? [02:34] http://luhman.org/blog/2009/08/25/git-difftool-and-vimdiff [02:34] git diff is just a git command that will output a diff for you [02:35] alright, looks like i have it already :D [02:37] Thank you [02:37] np, have fun [02:42] :) [02:49] So question about that [02:50] I put in what they suggested for the colors and all that jazz, but when I go to open vim I get" [02:51] "Error detected while processing /home/aaron/.vimrc: [02:51] line 3: [02:51] E185: Cannot find color scheme green [02:52] Press ENTER or type command to continue [02:52] It goes into vim but doesn't hold the configurations that I put in per the site [03:16] User Error! I miss spelled greens === ebarch_ is now known as ebarch [10:58] morning [11:32] Good morning [11:32] Latest OMC is up [11:34] party on! [11:35] And, just because I can't seem to win when it comes to smart phones: I asked Ting if it would be possible to upgrade to the Motorola Photon to get a phone to me sooner [11:35] http://shop.oreilly.com/category/deals/pocket-references.do?imm_mid=083695&cmp=em-code-books-videos-pocket-reference-direct [11:36] checked the device list: Photon is nw shipping in 2-3 weeks [11:36] oh hmmm, :/ [11:36] ok yea not sure on the photon as an ok phone [11:36] but my inner child wants new toys. [11:36] WAH!!! [11:37] rick_h: I have some of those pocket references. I don't find I use them nearly as often as I think I would [11:37] I do like the regex one [11:38] I don't use the python one much admittingly [11:38] I think the key is they have to be kept right in front of you [11:38] Yep [11:39] then there's that brousch guy [11:40] ALthough I don't have the ebook version of the regex book. [11:40] well not a fan of htem as ebooks [11:40] but that's $4.99 as an upgrade, so no hurry [11:40] just not good for that [11:40] Yeah [11:41] * snap-l decides to take the pocket reference books to work [11:42] God, the Python "Pocket Reference" is 210 pages. [11:42] well it's for a whole lang [11:42] I got that one in ebook and never ever use [11:43] eh, what aboot me? [11:43] I want to know what it is about Mr. Lutz that makes his books so damn huge. [11:44] good grpug last night. 2 new guys, 2 old guys came back, 3 python jobs mentioned [11:45] nice! [11:46] got my branch merged into the readability library, think I'm going to try to take ownership of it [11:47] of the project? [11:47] yea, she says she's in maint mode, but already have 6 todo items to fix up on it [11:47] and there's a fork that's done a ton of good work on it I want to cherry pick 20 commits or so [11:48] but it's go no tests, no build, poor setup.py setup, no pep8...it needs a lot of <3 [11:48] carpe forkum [11:50] yea, but I want my changes on pypi [11:50] so unless I fork/rename/etc but why if I can get commit rights or even maintainership? [11:52] yeah [12:01] speaking of modern-package-template from yesterday http://kennethreitz.com/repository-structure-and-python.html [12:01] though note he doesn't advocate the src directory which a lot of commenters do [12:01] i'm not sureabout src [12:02] seems unnecessary [12:02] well it won't work on heroku :/ [12:02] but I like it [12:02] pydev tries to do it by default [12:02] it splits up the clear package bits from virtualenv and other things [12:02] so you and pydev agree on something [12:03] doh! [12:03] no I mean... that... crap [12:03] muahahahah [12:07] rick_h: o'reilly is looking for reviewers for "Fitness for Geeks" http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920015475.do?imm_mid=083cf6&cmp=em-code-ug-ug-nl-apr12 [12:11] good stress uh oh [12:14] good stress? [12:15] from the book description [12:15] ah, at the end [12:32] i had to install the ginormous XCode and the XCode Command Line Utilities (an additional giant download) just to get virtualenvs working on OSX [12:32] heh, I don't get devs on osx sometimes but oh well [12:33] and then i needed an additional apt-like program called homebrew to install the poppler library [12:33] i cannot live like this [12:58] brousch: why not? brew is really nice. [12:58] brousch: and IIRC there is some way you can install xcode command line utils without full xcode. [12:59] maybe, but the instructions i found had you go through XCode->Prefs->downloads and download it from inside of xcode [13:01] yea, I think armin setup the command line tools only package or something [13:02] brousch: me too. i've no idea how to get them wihtout full xcode. [13:02] but i use full xcode occasionally, so I'm find with snagging it [13:03] http://librelist.com/browser//homebrew/2012/2/16/command-line-tools-for-xcode/ [13:03] sorry, kenneth did it I guess then [13:03] see if it shows up in homebrew for you [13:05] https://github.com/downloads/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer/GCC-10.7-v2.pkg looks like that it one option [13:05] or that I guess [13:05] :) [13:06] bah, well it's done now. my gigabytes are occupied [13:06] well for future reference [13:06] you might not be able to brew install it becuase it installs to system paths and brew does not install things to system paths. [13:06] gotcha [13:06] yea, just going off the email there [14:26] from __future__ import print_function #pros?cons? [14:27] i think it just works in 2.7 [14:27] yea [14:27] is that for 2.6? [14:27] maybe 26? [14:28] oh? [14:28] make sure to test it first [14:28] ty. [14:28] pro if you can use it [14:28] i'm not sure how to tell the difference. [14:29] print("hi"); works no matter what. [14:29] looks like it works in python 2.6 [14:29] jrwren: yea, but doens't print without () error if that's imported? [14:29] jrwren: yea, so testing it on my 2.6 ec2 box [14:30] if you import print_function it makes `print 'test'` a syntax error [14:30] and that imports in 2.6 [14:30] but the function syntax works either way. [14:30] ah, so it just makes the old syntax error. [14:30] ok, I get it. [14:32] anyone used proxmox ? looks like pretty sweet virtualization [14:33] nope [14:33] anyone watching tDiscovery land at Dulles Airport? [14:34] looks like its finally coming in after a flyby of DC [14:40] How poetic. ;) [14:41] "Hey DC, get a glimpse of how great America was" [14:41] basically [14:41] maybe they should've done this more often so we would still have a shuttle program [14:42] Nah, because then they'd bitch for the added air travel. [14:43] well people are now interested in the shuttle [14:43] should've done that earlier [14:43] Maybe they'll get interested in the XPrize contenders [14:44] Maybe NASA can compete then. ;) [14:44] bwuhahah, upload stupid @#$#@ to pypi, I just point requirements.txt at my git repo! [14:45] rick_h: Context, or we'll label you raving mad [14:45] the readable maintainer merged my branch in, but uploaded an .egg to pypi [14:45] Ah, OK [14:45] .egg == no pip install == no heroku since it uses pip requirements.txt [14:46] so I ping'd a heroku guy, found outit supports git installs [14:46] heh [14:46] and thus bypass stupid paackage mantainer and just use my fork for heroku so it works [14:47] carpe forkum! [14:48] yep, though I now have commit bits [14:48] so I can commit to her git repo, but still need to get her to upload proper source dists [14:48] so merged in a makefile with a make upload command that forces sdist :) [14:48] bwuahhahaha, I'll makify the world! [14:48] and `make heroku` is complete and my app is updated [14:49] <3 [14:49] sometimes I just love software, work around all the problems and just make it go [14:54] does make work on windows? [14:54] no idea, who cares :P [14:54] http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/make.htm [14:55] well, you're assuming the maintainer can run make [14:55] true [15:58] http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ou16t/ [15:58] rick_h: ^^ [15:59] Good morning folks. [15:59] snap-l: yay [15:59] howdy JonEdney [17:08] http://gizmodo.com/5902609/the-only-us-blackberry-store-might-be-the-saddest-place-on-earth [17:08] Apparently it's in Farmington Hills [17:08] And no, it's not tjagoda's house. [17:10] but he goes there daily [17:11] to apparently listen to jazz and get photo ops with mascots [17:11] Actually, it was Wireless Giant [17:16] TIL: if you don't have /etc/resolv.conf but do have dns in nss hosts, glibc will automatically try localhost, and if you have dns on localhost, it will work. [17:16] ummm, nice? [17:16] IMO its weird. [17:38] <3 this little powergen battery thing. Forgot to charge the mifi...no problem. [19:06] Man, I need to get a new music drive [19:06] 99% with 8GB left [19:06] of a 640 GB drive [19:07] Thats a lof of music.. [19:07] geebus, mirroring jamendo, bandcamp, .. what else? [19:16] CD rips [19:16] all FLAC [19:19] you know, if I had a workable CD drive in my possesion, I might do that [19:19] as it is, the closest I have is my shelf stereo but even the cd player on that makes noises of impending death [19:19] x-series all the way, baby [19:21] i have an external usb cd/dvd burner [19:21] has lasted for many years [19:27] yeah, might need to do that at some point when I have a bit more time on my hands to backup all my CDs before they bit rot [19:28] you can just buy them again [19:29] I haven't seen much bit rot on my discs [19:29] and I have discs dating back to high school [19:29] I'd rather not contribute to the creation of more plastic-based music discs [19:29] snap-l: unpossible [19:30] * snap-l treats his discs like a librarian [19:30] * greg-g prevents self from making an old joke [19:30] I sure didn't, my are in a 200-disc case that has been in the sun way too many times [19:30] greg-g: I probably have discs that are older than you are. [19:31] 1988 is when I started getting CDs. [19:31] I"M NOT THAT YOUNG! [19:31] :) [19:31] * greg-g was born in '82 [19:32] I think the only thing that might be older than you is some alvin and the chipmunks records. :) [19:32] greg-g: i meant buy them again in digital format [19:32] * snap-l was a musical square in elementary school. [19:32] snap-l: did you get those from the battle creek cereal festival? [19:33] brousch1: :( [19:33] brousch1: eh? [19:33] guess not [19:37] I have no idea what you're talking about. :) [19:37] Do you mean some flexidiscs? [19:38] no, as a kid i got free cheesy records like alvin and the chipmunks from the battle creek longest breakfast table thing [19:39] brousch1: Huh, never heard of it [19:40] God, I <3 archive.org [19:40] I currently see 32 items created by that account. Please contact us again when you have created 50 items [19:40] (asked about creating a collection) [19:40] 1988! that is when cd players cost $1000 [19:41] I had a portable CD player [19:41] it cost $250 or something like that. [19:41] i didn't know what a cd was until 91ish [19:41] no, that can't be eright. [19:41] Folks were starting to get them when I was in high school [19:42] I saved up an entire summer of caddying to get a CD player [19:42] i got one from aol in the mail around 1993 before i had a computer. i hung it up because it was so pretty [19:42] oh yeah, I had a portable in 91 too. [19:42] maybe as early as 89. [19:42] That was sophmore year into junior year [19:42] i forgot entirely. [19:42] I remember the first three albums I bought [19:42] snap-l: you are my age, old man? [19:42] graduated in 1989 [19:43] so a little older. [19:43] ah, no my youngest cousins age. [19:43] at SRT i worked with 4 or 5 people that were class of '89 [19:43] which is a high mode given a 20 person company [20:12] whoa, segphault mentioned my literally 4 minute blog post on twitter [20:12] I was wondering why my views were going crazy but my short link (goo.gl) wasn't showing anything :) [20:26] p === AaronThul_ is now known as AaronThul [21:01] Hey, there's AaronThul [22:19] and there he goes [22:19] rick_h: please charm bookie so we can serve it over spdy, because why not: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2012/04/17/want-to-mess-with-spdy-easily-come-experiment-with-it-via-juju/ [22:50] when did github's 404 page image move on mouse over? [22:50] https://github.com/blahdeblah [23:01] since forever, i think [23:01] at least a long time [23:03] oh, well then, apparently I'm not a big mouse user [23:27] I can't make sense of this table: http://sopatrack.com/bills.html [23:28] specifically HR 1 and HR 2354 [23:28] (how they label the vote going) [23:52] jcastro: lol [23:59] jcastro: I did give it a go of juju'ing it