[00:38] <goddard> yo
[01:05] <bkerensa> yo
[01:07] <c_smith> hello
[01:07] <c_smith> meh, wish I could figure out a Domain Name service to forward to my IP (which is Dynamic)
[01:10] <nathwill> dyndns
[01:11] <nathwill> though i'd suggest consulting your ISP's ToS, and signing up for a cheapy vps service instead
[01:11] <nathwill> night all
[01:19] <c_smith> DynDNS is not free anymore, and I don't control my ISP bill, and I'm sure who pays for it would not do this. he's even cheap on power.
[01:20] <c_smith> won't pay power for leaving a PC on.
[01:20] <goddard> there is a free one
[01:20] <tgm4883> c_smith, dyndns isn't free?
[01:20] <goddard> damn what was it called
[01:20] <tgm4883> goddard, there are a ton of them
[01:20] <c_smith> tgm4883, nope, they cut their free services and only offer free TRIALS.
[01:21] <goddard> http://freedns.afraid.org/zc.php?from=L21lbnUv
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://dyndns.org
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://changeip.com
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://zoneedit.com
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://no-ip.com
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://freedns.afraid.org
[01:21] <tgm4883> http://dnsdynamic.org
[01:21] <tgm4883> those are all supported by openwrt
[01:21] <c_smith> heh, nice.
[01:21] <tgm4883> not sure if they are all still free or not though
[01:21] <c_smith> now that might solve my problem, if I wasn't so frustrated at this.
[01:21] <goddard> http://freedns.afraid.org/zc.php?from=L21lbnUv is
[01:22] <tgm4883> http://dnslookup.me/dynamic-dns/
[01:22] <tgm4883> http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Protocols/DNS/DNS_Providers/Dynamic_DNS/
[01:22] <goddard> zone edit kind of is
[01:22] <tgm4883> those two links also have a long list of dynamic dns providers
[01:22] <goddard> google had one for awhile
[01:23] <goddard> not sure if it still does
[01:41] <goddard> hey where can i get a spool of cat 6 cable in salem?
[01:44] <tgm4883> goddard, norvaks maybe?
[01:44] <tgm4883> norvac's?
[01:44] <tgm4883> goddard, http://www.norvac.net/
[01:46] <bkerensa> great scots... I leave for a half hour and come back and burst of conversation
[01:47] <bkerensa> Afraid.org is the best... I know the guy who started it and he has been running it for it seems like a decade now
[01:47] <bkerensa> :P
[01:47] <c_smith> well, I've got a working DNS redirect, just tested it from home, will test it remotely tomorrow.
[01:48] <c_smith> heh, funny, I chose to use Afraid.org, really nice service. tell the guy he has my thanks for such a nice service. :)
[01:50] <c_smith> bkerensa, do you think it is at all possible to use my 5GB Amazon Cloud Drive for fodder for my server experimentation?
[01:51]  * c_smith will check back for a reply when he gets back in 15-20 minutes
[01:54] <bkerensa> c_smith: I have no idea what your talking about
[02:04] <c_smith> bkerensa, let me try to rephrase that, can I use my Amazon Cloud storage to host a server?
[02:05] <bkerensa> c_smith: no
[02:05] <c_smith> ok
[02:05] <bkerensa> storage is storage
[02:05] <bkerensa> you need computing + storage for a server
[02:05] <c_smith> kk
[02:05] <bkerensa> AWS does this.... http://aws.amazon.com
[02:05] <c_smith> as you can see, I'm a complete idiot when it comes to servers.
[02:06] <c_smith> also, that issue you had with anther host was kinda funny
[02:18] <cy1> Sigh.
[02:18] <cy1> I gave as an example why not to choose Apple "Would you buy a car if you weren't allowed to know where the steering wheel is?"
[02:19] <cy1> And the response was that lots of cars are built nowadays to deliberately prevent people from working on their own cars, and that's where the earliest forms of DRM were ever applied.
[02:19] <bkerensa> c_smith: not really funny as it took me hours of my time to get it resolved and time equals money
[02:20] <c_smith> true.
[02:20] <cy1> So yes, people would buy cars with concealed steering wheels... if by steering wheel you mean dipstick xp
[02:20] <cy1> I want a Linux car.
[02:20] <c_smith> in that case more literally than figuratively, eh?
[02:24] <sourfrog> Hello
[02:25] <bkerensa> hi sourfrog
[02:25] <sourfrog> How is it going>
[02:25] <sourfrog> ?
[02:26] <bkerensa> sourfrog: good
[02:27] <sourfrog> Its nice to see there is a local ubuntu group, I just started using it.
[02:28] <sourfrog> Not very lively around here though
[02:28] <cy1> The parties are lively enough.
[02:28] <cy1> IRC can be slow in general though, especially local.
[02:28] <cy1> Because 99% of everyone ain't even heard of IRC and only use cell phones.
[02:29] <sourfrog> I see
[02:29] <cy1> fuck why am I turning everything political tonight
[02:29] <sourfrog> I havent even touched a computer in 7 1/2 years
[02:29] <sourfrog> I missed irc though
[02:30] <sourfrog> Its not what it used to be
[02:30] <cy1> Wow, yeah it's been a harsh decade or so for communication.
[02:30] <sourfrog> Ive been in prison
[02:31] <cy1> >_<
[02:31] <sourfrog> Ive been reading textbooks for the last year trying to get up to date
[02:31] <cy1> no Internets allowed in prison
[02:31] <sourfrog> but i wasnt ready for all this
[02:31] <cy1> The Occupy stuff?
[02:31] <sourfrog> ?
[02:32] <cy1> "all this"
[02:32] <sourfrog> computers are different
[02:32] <sourfrog> My old vaio cant even load most sites
[02:32] <cy1> A lot more emphasis on mini-computers too, like netbooks and ...cell phones.
[02:32] <sourfrog> I just orderd a straighttalk phone
[02:33] <sourfrog> I went for a walk yesterday and 80% of people where all stuck on there phones lol
[02:33] <sourfrog> ive never even had one
[02:33] <cy1> hah, yeah
[02:33] <sourfrog> 82nd is still dirty though :P
[02:33] <cy1> I find it mysterious how one piece of technology can so totally grasp the entire community, and another be not just ignored, but actively avoided.
[02:34] <cy1> Well, mysterious until I realize that advertising actually works, that is.
[02:34] <sourfrog> This internet connection is insane also
[02:34] <sourfrog> I had netzero 56k dialup when i fell
[02:34] <sourfrog> now i can download a movie in minutes
[02:35] <cy1> They've been putting in tons of fiber it's pretty radical. Unfortunately it's heavily monopolized, but still damn fast.
[02:35] <sourfrog> clearnet is crazy fast
[02:35] <sourfrog> i remember drooling over cable
[02:36] <sourfrog> Are there any general portland chat rooms?
[02:37] <cy1> Sort of. There's the #reddit-portland channel. I dunno of any other Portland chat rooms or forums that are slightly popular. <_<
[02:40] <sourfrog> thank you
[02:42] <sourfrog> Computers are really fast now
[02:45] <cy1> Eh, not as fast as all that. Maybe smaller though.
[02:45] <cy1> Depends on how much money you want to spend really. My computer is 5 years old, and was refurbished even then, and still works fine.
[02:46] <sourfrog> My old vaio had xp on it
[02:46] <sourfrog> i couldnt even get a service pack for it
[02:46] <sourfrog> so i put ubuntu 10.04 on it
[02:46] <sourfrog> still trying to figure all that out though
[02:46] <sourfrog> im on a new lenovo right now
[02:47] <sourfrog> this thing is insane
[02:47] <sourfrog> i7,8gb ram
[02:47] <sourfrog> I had all these plans on what i wanted to do online when i got out
[02:48] <sourfrog> but now i cant stop looking at youtube and checking out music on pandora
[02:49] <sourfrog> Can you sugjest a good file sharing program?
[02:49] <MarkDude> sourfrog, - my Uncle did a fair amount of time- ended up getting his life together
[02:49] <MarkDude> Takes a bit of time
[02:50]  * MarkDude wishes you good luck with it :)
[02:50] <sourfrog> Good to hear someone made it
[02:50] <MarkDude> and dont let the bastards grind you down
[02:50] <sourfrog> Ive only been out since friday
[02:50] <MarkDude> Be patient with it
[02:50] <sourfrog> everything is so expensive!
[02:51] <sourfrog> its been about a 2g weekend, just to get eye glasses a computer and some clothes
[02:51] <sourfrog> guess im just used to living off 60 a month :(
[02:58] <cy1> sourfrog: transmission's a good file sharing program. I like it at any rate. Though with some recent legislation we might all be forced onto gnunet or something. I've been playing with gnunet mostly these days, as a consequence.
[02:58] <c_smith> hello
[02:59] <sourfrog> hi
[03:00] <c_smith> what up?
[03:00] <sourfrog> Just checking things out
[03:00] <sourfrog> How are you
[03:00] <c_smith> cool
[03:00] <c_smith> not bad,
[03:00] <cy1> anyone else using gnunet? It's been seeing some development recently...
[03:00] <c_smith> cy1, I'll have to see what that is.
[03:01] <cy1> c_smith: http://gnunet.org/
[03:01] <cy1> It's nifty.
[03:01] <c_smith> I know, I've found it.
[04:15] <goddard> oh ya norvac almost forgot
[04:38] <c_smith> goddard, are you planning on going to the release party?
[04:53] <goddard> ya
[04:54] <goddard> c_smith: ya
[04:55] <c_smith> I most likely will be there, and so will JVLB. that is, if JVLB doesn't have anything come up, as he's my ride there
[04:55] <c_smith> goddard, are you from the Salem area?
[04:55] <goddard> ya
[04:55] <goddard> you tryin to car pool
[04:56] <c_smith> Cool, I host an Ubuntu Hour every Friday at Broadway Commons Coffeehouse.
[04:56] <goddard> i heard ive been meaning to go but it seems like something always comes up
[04:56] <c_smith> nope, JVLB only has a small pickup, so I can't extend an offer.
[04:56] <goddard> nah i got a car
[04:56] <goddard> thought you wanted a ride haha
[04:57] <c_smith> I have contacted JVLB on this, and he said he'd be willing to drive me there with him.
[04:58] <c_smith> but feel free to meet us who come to the Ubuntu Hour Friday at 6PM.
[04:58] <c_smith> that reminds me, I better get that announcement out.
[04:59] <goddard> c_smith: ya man ill try and make it
[04:59] <c_smith> cool
[05:02] <goddard> does the default msn settings with with pidgin?
[05:02] <c_smith> I'd imagine so.
[05:08] <c_smith> there goes Finn.
[05:15] <c_smith> well, I'm off for the night, cya
[05:16] <goddard> later
[19:05] <nathwill> an article to reference if anyone ever says that UX does not matter: http://www.cracked.com/article_19776_6-disasters-caused-by-poorly-designed-user-interfaces.html
[19:05] <orebuntu_> nathwill's tiny URL is http://tinyurl.com/7sxm39l
[19:05] <nathwill> why thank you orebuntu_!
[19:37] <bkerensa> ;p